good night from sussex. ♪. elizabeth: stocks soaring today on more positive news. more big signals, yes, the american economy is roaring back to life amid optimism about the ability of america to handle rising covid cases. dr. anthony fauci testifying today for the house saying yes we are in the middle of the first wave but a covid-19 vaccine could be ready by end of the year. is it is not a matter of when, but yes it will happen. that is dr. fauci. with us tonight retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan on president trump in the border in arizona to review 200 miles of border wall. that is a story we've been

covering a major covid outbreak at the border. former acting attorney general matt whitaker, president trump out with an executive order to protect public monuments. they say to democrat leaders, start growing up. stop allowing vigilantism it take over american streets. they ask, where do you draw the lines for vandalizing statues. what about gandhi? or about jesus? there is a push to take down statues of jesus too. democrat seattle mayor you grow up too. you put people in harm's way when you applauded violent protesters as summer of love as patriots. mayor you're admitting you were wrong. you want protesters shut down and gone because your police chief and police officials say crime is on the rise. two violent shootings leaving one person dead.

police officials reporting rapes, burglaries and assaults on the rise in seattle. house republican greg walden in a fox business exclusive. he held a major hearing with dr. fauci on the government's covid response. he is fuming mad at democrat governors. they are saying to governors like new york governor cuomo. you gee up. you pretend to claim you take responsibility for your executive order that put covid patients back into nursing homes. that is blamed for massive fatalities. you, governor cuomo, you turn around, blame europe, blame the government, blame politics, blame god. anyone except yourself. also tonight fox news contributor david webb on americans saying to the democrat governor michigan governor gretchen whitmer. you grow up too. you placed patients back into nursing homes. you damaged your state with an over the top shutdown order. now you want federal tax payers to bail you out. this governor is now seriously

interesting blocking president trump from holding a rally in her state. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get straight to washington, d.c., with hillary vaughn. she has the latest what is going on in the capital. hillary if. reporter: liz, the president arrived at a church in phoenix, arizona he is about to deliver remarks at this hour to a group of college students. he was in san luis, arizona at the u.s. move mexico border and checking out progress on the border wall. checking out the new milestone, the completion of the 200th mile on the wall. he says it had massive impact on illegal border crossings which he says last two months are down4% compared to the same time

last year. back in washington on the border between lafayette park and the white house, protesters are continuing to face off with police after they tried to establish the black house autonomous zone but were evicted from that space this afternoon and pushed back by the police after they unsuccessfully tried to tear down the statue of andrew jackson overnight. the president authorized the federal government to arrest anyone that destroys any national monument or federal property. saying the punishment for this is up to 10 years in prison. >> we've enacted an act, very specific statue and monument act that puts people in jail for 10 years if they do anything to even try to deface one of our monuments or statues. reporter: con capitol hill members of the president's coronavirus task force team brief lawmakers. anthony fauci, head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases told lawmakers a promising vaccine

for covid-19 will be entering phase three trials. saying it's a matter of when, not if they have successfully the vaccine for the public. >> we feel cautiously optimistic based on the concerted effort and the fact that we are taking financial risks to be able to be ahead of the game so that when, and i believe it will be when, and not if, we get favorable candidates with good results, we will bible to make them available to the american public. reporter: fauci along with the the head of the cdc told lawmakers, liz, they're working on getting more testing out, not less despite what the president has hinted at. liz? elizabeth: thank you, hillary. talking 40 to 50 million test as month. 40 to 50 million test as month, right, hillary? reporter: yes, that's right, liz. elizabeth: hillary, thank you so much. let's get back to president trump at the border wall in arizona. the president also today gave a

speech at students for trump rally in phoenix. the state is up for grabs in november. arizona is seeing a pretty bad covid-19 outbreak, nearly 50% rise in cases over the past week. there is also serious covid outbreak south of the border. welcome back to the show retired i.c.e. acting director, he is tom homan. great to see you, tom. before we get to the border, we want to ask you twitter red flagging this tweet from president trump, saying quote, there will never be a autonomous zone in washington, d.c., like in seattle f they try they will be met with serious force. twitter flagged that violating policy, contains threat against identifiable group. your reaction? >> this is twitter, twitter is out of control. the president is saying he is not going to allah lawlessness. he will not allow people to damage property and commit crimes. he is a law and order president. twitter is just wrong on that

classification, dead wrong. elizabeth: okay. let's get back to the president visiting the border wall today. more than 200 miles built. let's listen to what the president said. watch. >> really foolproof. it is solid steel. it is rebar and concrete inside of the steel. so we have a very heavy concrete inside the steel and inside the concrete we have rebar. so you have everything you can have, what they want. elizabeth: okay. let me ask you this. is the border wall working? it will cost 18 billion. many oppose it. including environmentalists saying creating scars throughout the landscape. democrats say don't build the wall. what do you say? >> walls work. data is clear. the walls they built over in yuma, they already resulted in an immense decrease in in illegal immigration. every place they put a border area the last 20 years, illegal immigration has declined.

illegal drugs coming in country has declined. it is clear on this talk about those that oppose trump border wall, you got super, hillary clinton and even joe biden in 2006, committed $50 billion to the secure fence act. they apparently thought barriers work or they wouldn't vote for the bill. they work. data is clear on that. walls will slow people down. it will have decrease in immigration, decrease in illegal drugs. walls save lives. elizabeth: okay. you know i want to move on to this because we've been covering this and it is a covid outbreak south of the border. tom, we're hearing local, state, hospital officials in arizona and california say they are now swamped with covid-19 cases crisscrossing the boarder. they fear it will deliver a second wave in the u.s. arizona, california, tom, seeing a rise in cases versus texas and new mexico. it is not great in new mexico and texas either.

here is the thing. mexico officials say the outbreak, cases are likely undercounted due to lack ever testing. south america has seen an, explosion in covid cases. how will that affect the border? >> i wrote an op-ed on this three months ago saying what will happen. mexico didn't dot response to united states did. mexico is undertesting. in the first few weeks covid hit mexico they were claiming all the deaths were pneumonia related. had nothing to do with pneumonia. it was covid. i said disease comes across the border every day. even before covid, we had tb, chicken pox, measles the country defeated at one point. the border is not just about illegal immigration. it is not just about illegal drugs. it is about disease that comes across the border every day. another important reason to have the wall, right? help protect americans from the disease. but the dangerous thing is, a lot of large communities in mexico, say juarez, four times

the size of juarez, they will inundate the hospitals in el pass so. they've enough to do with the american population let alone a population four times its size south of the border. elizabeth: the w.h.o. is saying epicenter of the global outbreak is in south america. brazil is having a real hard time. talk to us how the border officials have to deal with diseases and outbreaks like covid-19? what's the impact on the border guys? >> well that's why this president did a great thing when he suspended all up my graduation on the southern border, illegal immigration. instead of taking them into custody with i.c.e. facility, sit for days and infect other people, president said we'll turn them around and send them back to mexico. this is about protect the american people. protecting our border agents and i.c.e. agents. think if covid hit the border station really hard? that would be wide open to all cartel activity. the president made a great move when he suspended immigration.

he made another great move by suspending a lot of visas coming into this country. it is about protecting americans. americans first. jobs for americans first. health of americans first. this president is doing his job putting america first. that is exactly what he should be doing. that is why we elect the him. that is why he was a great president. elizabeth: again the fierce of covid-19 coming across the border. great to have you on, tom homan. come back soon. >> great to see you. elizabeth: next up, indiana senator mike braun on why police reform is hitting a wall on capitol hill and may not happen. that story next. e chase mobile , e chase mobile , your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can save for an emergency from here. or pay bills from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank. or here's my bank.

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♪. elizabeth: police reform now going nowhere on capitol hill and here's why. without the support of seven democrat senators, the gop bill will not reach the 60 needed to start the debate process. despite the house advancing reform bill last week, it looks like the end of police reform on capitol hill for the time-being. let's which in indiana senator mike braun. what do you think. >> you're right it is at a standstill. we have done everything we can, a lot of tim scott bill has similarities in the democrat bill. the offer was made to have amendments which we all like because not everybody agrees

with the template of a given bill. i've actually put out a discussion on qualified immunity which is the immediate issue not being addressed in our bill. so, i was hoping that that might be the bridge that would be as one of the amendments where you could get the democrats on board and it appears that we're getting into that old turf war situation where for reasons outside of the merit of what's in tim's bill, that we'll have the option of amendments, and i'm putting it out there where i know there is a lot of silent support for it, republicans need to know more about it. nobody wants to eliminate qualified immunity. i'm interested in reforming it and i think there are many democrats interested in that as well but we probably won't even get to talk about it because of the politics involved. elizabeth: well, it is interesting that you bring that up. here, let me back up.

qualified immunity is about being able to sue police officers, hit them with lawsuits but critics say that will paralyze cops. so a lot of people say don't do that. >> qualified immunity is a, is what is in place to protect against that and it is evolved through the court system to where you don't even have a real opportunity to take a george floyd situation easily for accountability. so no one on the republican side is interested in doing what the democrats want to do and that's eliminate qualified immunity. it is to reform it. to get rid of the frivolous lawsuits. but still in these egregious cases having the individual or their family be able to remedy. and that is about accountability and transparency. i think for police, tough job. i mean their lives are on the line every day. i don't think they can go forward long term with the

stigma that's hanging over their heads with these few bad cases. elizabeth: right. >> that typecast all cops. that is not good. elizabeth: all right. what about chokehold bans, no-knock warrants? critics say democrats will use their failure here in the senate to go after the republicans. you know as the democrats say they have their own reform bill but they're saying the, you know the federal ban on chokeholds, the democrats want that. the gop bill would seek to incentivize state and local governments to give them more federal grant money, if they dial back on chokeholds. talk about no-knock warrants and chokeholds? >> rand paul has a bill that would modify the current use of no-knock warrants. that is what happened in louisville. when it comes to the chokehold i think, that's less of an issue. qualified immunity is really i think where the rubber meets the road. those are the three big issues,

that get into something substantial. and i think that, probably the american public leans in doing something on all of them but we got to make sure whatever we do it doesn't unduly hamper an individual policeman, a cop, in doing his job, her job, every day. that is why it is a tricky dynamic to get the right balance. i think my qualified immunity reform bill does that. elizabeth: senator, thank you for joining us. >> you bet. >> great to see you. come back soon. coming up former acting attorney general matt whitaker on president trump now saying he will soon issue an executive order to protect public monuments. also this, failing democrat local leaders like the seattle mayor finally answering the wakeup call. the seattle mayor initially said the protesters were about the summer of love, patriotic, now she wants them shut down and gone. crime is rising in seattle.

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♪. elizabeth: okay. polls show americans are saying we're fed up with the mob vigilantism and tearing down of

statues. president trump will issue an executive order to protect public monuments from being destroyed by far left anarchists after numerous protesters were arrested in washington, d.c. they attempted to tear down a statue of andrew jackson. again vandalized st. john's episcopal church. several videos on social media show protesters shouting swearing through meg megaphones. let's welcome former acting u.s. attorney general matthew whitaker back to the show. great to have you on back on, sir. npr, mayor itist poll, 63% of the people say stop tearing down statues. that poll was done in 2017. american people are saying enough is enough. everybody just grow up. >> yeah, i think, a lot of americans are concerned about some of these statues that are

in our nation's cities and, however, everyone does not believe that the mob should control what statues get pulled down or what statues stay. this should be a political process that everyone should have a voice. when you start pulling down statues of george washington or, our founding father or ulysses s. grant who did more to end slavery than really almost anyone except abraham lincoln, you start to realize this small, violent mob, if left in control is going to start going after almost every institution of the united states and it is very concerning, liz. elizabeth: well there is already a federal law on the books saying you can't destroy government property. you get three years in prison. president wants an executive order to ramp it up to 10. let's see what is going on in seattle. can we believe democrat elected officials anymore. americans are saying, seattle mayor, jenny durkan you grow up.

you initially called the protest summer of love and patriotic and say the violence increased and becoming increasingly difficult for businesses and seattle residents. sir, protesters are saying, they're now ordered, they're now ordered to get out out of the district that they seized. two shootings over the weekend. three shot. one person killed. assaults, rapes and burglaries on the rise according to the local police chief. your take on that? >> this is what happens when anarchy is allowed to take hold. when you kick the police out of an area of a major city you should expect these types of out comes and it is really, it's a shame that the seattle mayor and the political leadership in washington allowed this to happen, really to the detriment not only the citizens of seattle but those small business owners and people that live inside of that zone that was declared. we need to understand that every city is threatened by these autonomous zones, if our political leaders don't step up and allow the police to do their

job. that is to keep every citizen safe and free from harm. these crimes you mentioned are not even allowed to be investigated because the police are not allowed to go into this zone right now. elizabeth: yeah. that is amazing. the police were blocked from trying to help victims in the zone. that happened elsewhere in the city. here is the other story. get back to the tearing down of statues. president trump condemn addition by new york city mayor bill de blasio to remove the statue of president theodore roosevelt in front of museum of natural history in new york city. activist shawn king says tear down statues of jesus because he looks white. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany asked where do you draw the line? apparently the line goes back to gandhi. leftists vandalized the statue of gandhi in washington. maybe it goes back to jesus? >> i don't think this ends. anything that points to history or sort of our shared humanity is at risk of being torn down

because it offends someone that doesn't agree i guess the founding of america or the tenets which we stand. we need to reflect values as a society of all citizens and we also need to look at and make sure we aren't constructing, you know, objects to celebrate, you know, offensive, you know, parts of american history but at the same time you know this cannot be allowed to have the mob decide what is to be torn down or to have feckless political leaders that have no backbone in these single party cities and states determine kind of what is, you know, a work of art and what needs to be torn down because of political correctness. you know, liz, i think there is a lot more to come on this, but we should not expect it to end anytime soon unfortunately. elizabeth: yeah, they want to tear down statues of union general ulysses grant. also abolitionist that mayas

baldwin. move on. senator tom cotton quoted abraham lincoln and the founding fathers. he says the real victim of mob rule and mob vigilantism is the spirit of civic-mindedness. he is saying that is what is necessary to preserve our republic. senator mitch mcconnell blasts the far left for the push to tear down statues nationwide. let's watch this. >> we cannot tolerate mob rule and we cannot allow it to go unpunished. while local authorities would usually take the lead in prosecuting these crimes unfortunately many of them seem unwilling to stand up to the mob. and uphold the rule of law. therefore i call upon the department of justice to bring charges against these mob vigilantes, prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law. >> our founding fathers are being roped to the ground like they were saddam hussein. elizabeth: you know, but we have new york governor saying,

tearing down statues, quote, is a healthy expression. what is your reaction to that? >> yeah. i agree with tom cotton. we cannot allow mob rule to tear down these statues. you know, it is, like you said, tomorrow it is christopher columbus. the next day it's every statue or edification of jesus, or any other religious icon. so these are, you know, this is, this is the has to stop. again we need to have every citizen's voice involved in this. a determination of those you know, whether it is a city, whether it is a state, whether it is a country, we need to have a discussion how we celebrate our historical leaders. elizabeth: okay. >> like president grant who was an outstanding leader and has a record of success. elizabeth: matthew whitaker, thank you so much. great to see you. >> thank you, liz. good to see you. elizabeth: next up we'll get you updated on what's going on in the 2020 race. we're going to talk to kelsey

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♪. elizabeth: to the 2020 election where both the white house and the senate are now up for grabs. that is what critics are saying. does this spell trouble though, for the biden campaign? watch maggie hay berman of "the new york times" sound warning bells. watch this. >> joe biden is still a very flawed candidate. he is running a flawed campaign so far. there are still four months left. they have to have what are supposed to be three general election debates. four 1/2 months ago we were not talking about coronavirus the way we're talking about right now. so a lot can happen. i do think it is important to remember that, at the end. day elections are still binary. people if they decide to vote,

unless they decide to write someone in will make the choice between these two men. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome kelsey bollar of the independent women's forum. quite an admission, wake-up call to democrats and maggie haberman. people have been saying for some time that joe biden is candidate. polls showing biden in the lead, critics keep saying those are likely wrong too. you can't trust the polls at this point. what do you say, kelsey? >> not every day that i agree with the "new york times" but maggie headache berman is absolutely right, that pointing out joe biden is a flawed candidate. that doesn't mean that president trump can sit back and relax as we head into november but that does mean polls that show joe biden significantly ahead might not be telling you the whole picture. he thus far has remained in his basement, not really showing any leadership when it comes to what's happening with these

protests and riots on the street. and that is who we really need to hear from because it is ultimately individuals who identify as democrats who are out there protesting and it is democrat leaders who need to step up and talk some common sense into these protesters who have turned violent and are now trying to erase american history, that none of us, despite our party affiliation should stand for. elizabeth: you know what's really interesting too, kelsey, congresswoman val demings, val demings thought to be a vice-presidential front-runner, val demings has indicated she may not want the job as biden's vice president. >> if i want the job that is a different way of asking the question. i'm not sure i want the job as much as the job may want me. elizabeth: whoa. that is quite a bombshell out of val dem mention. she is thought to be in the

running of top three, vice president, joe biden's vice-presidential choices. what do you make of that? >> can you blame her? i don't think democrats have any chance of winning with their parties. i saw a poll just today showing that 50% of democrats now support defunding the police. val demings served as police chief in orlando. so she, according to democrats has a very problematic background and if she does step up and get nominated as vice, as vice president, she is going to have to answer to these mobs that we're seeing on the streets. it is not going to be pretty. and so i don't blame her or anybody. amy klobuchar also said that joe biden should pick an african-american women. so she really took her name out of the race this week. goes to show you what a difficult position democrats are in as we head into the 2020

election. >> interesting. kelsey billion lar, bollar, thanks so much for your analysis. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up house republican greg walden in a fox business exclusive. he just held a major hearing of the government's covid-19 response with dr. fauci. he is pretty mad how new york governor cuomo now saying he does take responsibility for his executive order that is blamed for covid deaths ripping through new york nursing homes. but then governor cuomo turns around blames europe, blames the government, blames politics, even god. anyone except himself. that story next at fisher investments, we do things differently and other money managers don't understand why. because our way works great for us! but not for your clients. that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. so, what do you provide? cookie cutter portfolios? nope. we tailor portfolios to our client's needs.

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♪. elizabeth: new york governor andrew cuomo, four other democrat governors how under house republican probe for their

dangerous and catastrophic decision to put covid-19 patients back into nursing homes and facilities. it's a move now blamed for the deaths of thousands. now families of loved ones who died are asking who will hold them accountable? as governor cuomo now tries to claim he takes responsibility but then he blames europe, he blames the government, he blames politics, even god, anyone except himself. let's welcome republican greg walden of oregon. great to have you on, congressman. before we get to governor cuomo. you're a ranking member of house energy and commerce. what happened with the hearing today with dr. fauci? >> you know i thought it was a good hearing. i thought they laid out the good work the administration has done. what lies ahead in the future. the democrats spent their time bashing the president, blaming others. but what we tried to dig in on are we ready for the fall? where are we with testing? where are we with the vaccine and treatment? no administration's worked harder or faster to get answers to get supplies and get

equipment to move forward than the trump administration has. so i think it was a good hearing overall. i think we finally got to the facts of the matter and were able to talk about what lies ahead. how we'll be ready to address whatever comes at us this fall. elizabeth: you know, the public was largely kept in the dark about governor cuomo's move to put covid recovering patients back into nursing homes. kept in the dark until the story broke a month after his executive order. >> right. elizabeth: sir, i want you to watch governor cuomo first pay lip service to the claim he takes responsibility. turns around finger points, blames the government, blames europe. watch this. >> in my state i owned the situation. i will answer for my actions and then history will decide. i've said a number of times local governments have to do their job. i, my father's advice to me, take responsibility.

own it. i have taken responsibility for every bad decision and everyone popular decision. no, look, if you look at how many people died in nursing homes in new york compared to other states, we actually have a lower percentage of people who died in nursing homes. yes, we had more people die in nursing homes than anywhere else, because, we had more people die. because the federal government missed the boat and never told us this virus was coming from europe and not from china. so new york had more cases, more cases, more deaths and more deaths than nursing homes, that is what the virus affects t affects senior citizens. we know. that you look at any state, they had a tremendous number of deaths in nursing homes. it is all a political charade. elizabeth: critics say cuomo is on the political charade. sir, do viruses from china treat senior citizens differently from

viruses from europe? if como knew the source was europe, woe have blocked covid patients going into nursing homes? >> no, liz, centers for medicare, medicaid, put out guidance for march 13th. he did his executive order march 25th. cdc has been very clear on this we knew seniors were being attacked by the virus more than anybody else. i think governor cuomo's executive order, defied science will go down as deadliest mistake with the covid-19 pandemic. a horrible loss of life, unnecessary. to his idea somehow new york was worse off than other states, explain were why the rate of death in nursing home patients is five times in new york than that of florida. i'll tell you why. because governor cuomo sent six nursing home patients tested positive for covid back into nursing home environments not ready or prepared. ordered they could not be tested for covid. unlike governor desantis in florida who realized seniors

were most vulnerable and went the other direction. elizabeth: you know, to your, hear what you're saying. governor cuomo also signed off on a legal liability shield so people could not sue nursing homes after the industry lobbied him in, you know in albany. here's the thing. he blames cdc guidelines. cdc, i hear what you're saying, cdc is saying our guidelines saying you should have ppe, you should have had inspections, "politifact" is saying, governor cuomo you can't blame federal government, or cdc. you can only blame yourself. >> not a dime of the money congress appropriated in a bipartisan way for testing in cares package has gone into testing for nursing homes in new york. not a dime. he is threatening to cut funding medicaid for nursing homes in the middle of all this crisis after he made them a deadly dumping ground for covid positive patients. these are not just numbers. these are not just patients.

these are fathers, mothers, fathers, grandmothers whose entire life depended on proper care. he defied the guidance of cms. he went about with his own way with his executive order. and as a result they're five times higher death rates among seniors in nursing homes in new york than in florida. the same thing happened basically in new jersey and michigan as well. california started down this path and then immediately reversed course. they are like at 2%. new york is a horrible example of bad governance, bad leadership, not only was deadly but also unnecessarily, put all the workers at risk as well. and so, that makes no sense. elizabeth: that is a great point. you know, he is cheered and applauded for the aesthetics of seeming passionate at his pressers but he retunely takes responsibility for the obvious. consistently blaming others and at one point, even saying

governors don't do pandemics. critics say some governors don't read their state's pandemics plan. >> well he certainly showed how not to do it especially with the executive order on march 25th. that was nearly two weeks after the trump administration issued guidance about how to treat patients who go back to nursing homes. the last thing any of us would have wanted for our mother, father, grandmother, grandfather shoved back into a nursing home. or if they're there to have a covid-19 positive patient discharge in the hospital brought back in. they were not set up for that. there are ways to manage that. my state of oregon did it much better because the nursing home association itself said we'll wall off the nursing homes. that is where the vulnerable populations are. they were way ahead of the curve. so we've been in much better shape. new york, worst example, deadliest example. didn't need to happen. it all happened on governor cuomo's watch, under his pen.

elizabeth: congressman, it is great to have you on. thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> come back soon and join us again. good to see you, my friend. up next fox news contributor david webb on democrat michigan governor gretchen whitmer, state residents saying there, governor you grow up. she is now seriously considering blocking the president from holding a rally but she is asking federal taxpayers for a bailout after her seriously economically damaging shutdown order that really hit the state hard. this debate next there are times when our need to connect really matters. to keep customers and employees in the know. to keep business moving. comcast business is prepared for times like these. powered by the nation's largest gig-speed network. to help give you the speed, reliability, and security you need. tools to manage your business from any device, anywhere. and a team of experts - here for you 24/7.

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♪. elizabeth: okay. here's what's going on, the second presidential debate between president trump and joe biden will take place in miami. the university of michigan backed out because they were worried about the spread of covid-19. now this. michigan governor gretchen bit whitmer would think seriously blocking president trump from holding a rally in her state because of covid-19. here is what else is going on. governor whitmer wants federal taxpayers to bail out her state after being accused of damaging michigan what critics say. stopped gardening and home renovation goods. the governor accused of sending covid-19 patients back into

nursing homes as well. let as talk about it with fox news contributor david webb. great to have you back on. what is your reaction to what you just heard? >> you have a governor in merck gahn arguably not smarter with than the governor in new york with inconsistencies. these are common sense decisions before you even get to following advice of medical experts. the governor whitmer has more ideology like governor cuomo was and is, rather than dealing with the issues in michigan for residents and states, her business is getting them reopened. by the way, go ahead and have the debate in miami. i like that, as you know. i also live in miami. that makes it easier for me to get to it than having to travel to michigan but the real losers here will be the governor and the democrats in michigan. michigan was a rebound economy that was well on its way. you look at those people that lived not just in detroit but around detroit in dearborn and

romeo, other areas around auto industry. supply chain for auto, technology industry. michigan is looking for a rebound. whitmer is going up against trump. those people turned their votes to trump in the general election. so her political future might not be as bright. given the fact that biden has to pick a black woman apparently as his running mate, she is apparently out of veepstakes which i don't usually engage in but why not? elizabeth: david, interesting you say. that you know what else is interesting. governor whitmer was supportive of the quote, spirit of the defund police movement. critics are saying slipshod and no longer all over the map. she is not aware of what legal tools she has to stop a trump rally from happening. so, you know, her, her backers are even saying we have question marks over what she is saying. you know, she has been heavily criticized for doing things like

shutdown orders and then her husband was found to trying to be moving to get his boat in the water ahead of everybody else over the recent holiday weekend. so you know, there feels like, you know, double standards, slipshod decision making in the state of michigan. what's your take on that? >> you have got someone who is an elitist first of all which is governor whitmer and apparently her husband because reporting seems fairly accurate and well-sourced. do as i say, not as i do. inconsistency in her decision whether you can go out on this type of boat or this type of paddle board. and think about it. you can have people go to a walmart, big box, target, nothing against them but they can't go support their local business. we're talking about her asking for federal money, federal dollars. while immense amounts of money gone into michigan when you look at the ppp disbursement and ibl, et cetera from the sba to save

many of the small businesses. she is inconsistent. she is not qualified to be governor. what she is doing is playing a political game to the hard left of the democrat party. elizabeth: there is push to limit her powers. a petition moving in the state. she is saying any moves to limit my power would be quote, irresponsible, dangerous and foolish. you have got 10 seconds to respond to that, david. >> it is about limiting her stupid decisions and that the people of michigan deserve better. that is what needs to be limited. elizabeth: okay. david webb, you're always terrific. come back soon. good to see you my friend. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. thank you so much for watching. we hope you join us tomorrow night. we'll have a lot of headlines for you again and we hope you have a good evening. thanks for joining us time.

thanks for joining us, we'll see you back here tomorrow. it is time for "lou dobbs tonight," starts right now. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump has demanded foo weeks that washington state's know-nothing, leftist governor and seattle's left-wing mayor who knows even less take action against the mob of anarchists, antifa and black lives matter activists to stand up for their citizens, to protect them from the mob that took over seven blocks of the capitol hill area of downtown seattle. both the governor and the mayor did absolutely nothing.