be congressman jim jordan, former congressman jason chaffetz, dr. michael pillsbury and "judicial watch"'s tom fitton among our guests. we hope you will be with us for that. we thank you for being with us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow. good night from sussex. ♪ >> hi, everybody, i'm david asman in for elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. david: fox news ace mike tobin is in chicago in with the very latest. reporter: there were demonstrations about racial inequality. call to defund and dismantle police departments.

while that happens there has been a flury of tragic gun violence. for weeks protesters have been gathering in louisville's jefferson square park protesting the police-involved death of breanna taylor. she was a health care worker and she was killed however when police serve ad warrant in a drug arrest. however, gunfire erupted in the protest camp. [gunfire] >> h. reporter: activists supporting the protests were shot and killed. tyler griff. man accused of gunman, steven lopez is hospitalized but in police custody. the city of chicago no stranger to gun violence last weekend claimed lives of young people. 20-month-old baby was shot in the chest strapped to a gun sheet. she never had a chance. chicago's new police superintendent called the

shooters evil bastards and pressed the public to end the code of silence and start telling police who the gunmen are. >> silence emboldens, empowers those who continue to terrorize our neighborhoods. now is the time to stand up to say enough is enough. for god's sake, for the sake of chicago's children, come forward reporter: the upcoming 4th of july holiday weekend historically proven to be severe for gun violence in chicago. david? david: mike tobin in chicago. good luck on that, mike, thank you very much. staying on the spike in crime across the u.s. early this morning another shooting in seattle's so-called chop zone has left one victim dead and another critically injured. the fourth shooting in or near the autonomous zone. we have congressman from

new york, congressman lee zeldin. good to see you. you wrote a piece in foxnews.com you say defunding police, great for killers, lousy for victims. seattle is proof of that. it is sort of a petri dish for the suggestion, the experiment of trying life without police and it's not working. how do we shut it down? >> you need the seattle mayor to empower the seattle law enforcement. if they're not going to do it, the governor needs to step in and needs to take charge to reclaim this territory which is part of our country and, you need to do it not just for the basics of rule of law, of respecting rights and good order and discipline in the community, but you also have private property that has been illegally taken. you have all sorts of different laws on the books. in the state of washington that are being broken. and people need to be arrested,

example needs to be set. you let it go on. it already has been proven. you can watch it from inside of chop or from the other coast. and you're seeing first-hand why abolishing defunding, disbanding isn't going to work. david: congressman we know for generations it doesn't work. there was a book written mayed to read when i was in high school called, "lord of the flies." it shows you what happens when people are left to their own devices without any control or authority or police and it doesn't work. we know it doesn't work. but the people, the people in charge in seattle continually refuse to admit it and right now they don't seem to have the guts to step in to the autonomous zone to change things. so what happens if they don't do it? the longer they delay it is the worse it will get when they go in? >> you're starting to see the justice department, you're seeing the federal government starting to launch their own investigations. hopefully as we're going through

this week across the country we'll start to see arrests. if you're not going to have the local mayor or governor doing the right thing, the federal government needs to step in. the average american -- david: hold on for a second, if i can interrupt, congressman, how does the federal government step in? what does the federal government do if the mayor or governor won't do it? >> first off depends on which laws are being broken. you have to have a violation of a law, for example, to be able to arrest an individual and in certain cases you're not going to be able to have the federal government intervene. another option as far as going into an area is with regards to which individuals do you send in? there is that option as it relates to the national guard. there are others who are part of the federal government, who can assist that. this is all a last case scenario. this is not option, a, b, or c. it is one needs to be strongly considered at this point with feckless leadership at the local

level, with a combination of a, being incredibly naive as the house was going to play out, or b, just wanting to pander, because that is the base for their votes to win elections. david: i think it is both a and b. they want to pander and they're being incredibly naive. looks like the people in chicago have reached the point of total frustration. we heard the chicago police commissioner just throwing up his hands, saying, really getting furious. he understands that black lives matter even if they're not being killed by police but being killed by black criminals which is clearly what's happening even to the smallest children. what do you do there? this is a problem that predates the george floyd protest? >> you support law enforcement more, not less. long term, it is be providing more opportunity for people who are stuck in one state, relying on the government in order to survive.

it is about education, opportunities and choice. it is about being able to have the job and skills to make yourself competitive. people are stuck in a state of poverty, generation after generation. they need to get out of it. as far as the elected officials who are there most immediately, support law enforcement more, not less. that is how you best help the people in need in chicago. that is also because of lack of support why you're seeing law enforcement submitting your retirement packets, if you are not going to have my back, i will not allow you day in, day out to throw me to the wolves like this. david: that is happening en masse in your own state where you live and city i live particularly in new york city. we've gone from one coast to the other. seattle, to chicago to new york and now in new york you have a weekend in which murders are up 25 to 50% over the past couple of weeks. what are we going to do? because the mayor of new york, mayor de blasio, is just

announced a billion dollars out of the police budget? >> mayor de blasio has to go. i don't know if he is capable of getting this back in control while he is mayor. this started, remember, earlier this year with the implementation of cashless bail in new york. david: right. >> where people could rob a bank, get arrested, be released that day, smile at the sky outside, can't believe they're free, go rob another bank. that was actually coming at the start of this year. what is ironic about all this, mayor de blasio stands in front of the crowd he is pandering too, they will be the first ones to boo him off the stage. who are you doing this for? make the decision to have the backs of cops, property owners and those who obey and respect the law and restore order to what is a great city that should be thriving right now as opposed being destroyed directly because of mayor de blasio. david: congressman i lived here since the 1980s and i have to tell you a lot of new yorkers

even those who voted for de blasio and voted for his re-election are fed up with him. want change, but they don't see anybody. let me put it to you as a republican. why aren't you republicans putting up candidates to combat somebody like rudy giuliani for example? there has got to be people out there. i haven't seen them. i haven't seen republicans put their due diligence to put up somebody against the democrats? >> we had republicans running for mayor of new york city and democrats and others actually voting for mayor de blasio. i think as you pointed out, people who live in new york citys see what a mayor de blasio term is going to look like. now they're more ready for change than they were in the past. what you might see that the next mayor may be republican. understanding when rudy giuliani got elected with a city that had registrations like six to one, seven to one democrat. david: i remember. >> and they voted for him. david: i remember a liberal who

was a friend of fox news, allen combs, who voted for rudy giuliani the second time. again you have to find more credible candidates because, there is always somebody running against these guys but they, they don't win unless they really got what it takes. so far i haven't seen one of those candidates. you have got to find somebody like that. congressman, we have to leave it at that. thanks for joining us. david: politicizing the government response to the covid-19 outbreak. mark cuban now openly supporting joe biden for president says the feds left the states to fend for themselves. we're ask florida senator rick scott if he agrees and we'll get senator scott's take on that and also on governor cuomo's fingerpointing at florida, despite new york's far deadlier record in fighting the virus. ♪ [ thunder rumbles ]

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♪ yeah ♪ ♪ y-yeah ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ hey, hey ♪. >> what we'll decide in all cities resurging, we have to decide who to trust with our lives. how to make a decision. nobody knows who even to ask, even truster. that is a failure of leadership. it is not just about testing, if you want to go back there, what about tracking and tracing. having increases in tests. there is no support from the federal government which should be a unified position how to

track and trace. there is no support there at all. every city and state is left to their own devices which makes it much more difficult to track and trace because all of the data is siloed. so again this comes down to lack of leadership. david: that was mark cuban this weekend, saying that president trump and the federal government have not done enough to stop the spread of the coronavirus, calling it a lack of leadership but with $100 billion in bailouts to the states and emergency hospitals built to handle the outbreak is that really the case? florida senator rick scott joining me to discuss. senator, good to see you. donald trump isn't doing much of anything to help the states. that is what we hear from mark cuban. that is what joe biden is now saying, governor cuomo is saying that. also pointing his finger at you, despite having a far worse record on the coronavirus than you do. what do you say to all of them? >> first off, let's go to the facts. the facts that congress and the

president signed bills to give, spent $2.9 trillion, over $500 billion to state and local. we gave them $150 billion to deal with coronavirus issues. we gave them $11 billion to deal with testing. we gave them $50 billion to deal with medicaids. medicaid costs are coming down. $30 billion to schools. schools are down. we give them almost half of their entire annual revenues for the state. we gave another $500 billion if they want to borrow money. what a lot of people don't realize county health departments are generally funded locally or at the state. in florida we funded them primarily at the state level. so the federal government doesn't run these things, but has the federal government funded it? yeah. we allocated $175 billion for health care. so you know, what this is, you have a whole bunch much people did not want to take responsibility.

you need to do it if you're a mayor and governor, step up and inform your citizens of what they need to do and keep giving them information. no different than what i did when i had a hurricane. the federal government didn't come to bail me out. i didn't expect them to do everything. david: right. >> counties did it, cities did i it and states did. >> that is the idea of the republic. each state has enormous autonomy to do it the way they think it should be done because they know more about their surroundings than people in the beltway do. that there is another thing governor cuomo is doing, which is unseemly what happened in the state of new york. he is pointing fingers at you and texans that they had done horrible job of reopening their economy. everybody knew that there would be moments of fires that spread in different pockets of states that opened up. that is what we knew would

happen. its happening. we're dealing with it when it happens. look at mortality rates like governor cuomo's that kept a lockdown tight from the moment it happened at mid-march. new york has a mortality rate that is, those people who have contracted covid, who died as a result of it, of 7.5%. new jersey, 7.5%. michigan 8.7%. all those are lockdown states. the more open states like yours and georgia and arizona have much less mortality rates. georgia has a a 3.4% rate. florida, a 2.6. arizona, 2.4. they're pointing the finger at you when you in fact have a mortality rate that is far better than theirs? >> i got elected healthcare.gov back in 2010 with cuomo. what i watched eight years as governor, before i was u.s. senator, he never takes responsibility. he never makes tough choices. he could never balance a budget. he couldn't cut taxes.

whether you're talking about his budget or his response to coronavirus he takes no responsibility for his failures. and that is what he has done. so he is always going to try to blame it on somebody else. but, i mean the it is just shocking that a guy cannot succeed at anything wants to blame everybody else. david: senator, switch quickly, has to be the last point to another issue we're dealing with which is these protests in many cases become riots and the policing problems we're having. senator tim scott, another senator scott, your republican counterpart in the senate, senator from south carolina, came out with a police bill. it may have had some flaws in it. i'm sure every bill does, but that is why you try to work things out. instead some democrats have hurled racial insults at senator scott, which i have never seen such a low form of insults, as a racial insult, which senator

durbin threw at him suggesting that the bill, was quote a token bill. obvious racial remark concerning his, his particular political preference. what do you make of that where racial insults from democrats to republicans are considered fair game? >> well, what durbin said is disgusting. and you know, he was wrong what he said. but look these are democrats. whether it is law enforcement reform or taking care of our daca kids or balancing our budget, they're all talk, they're no action. they will never do anything. all they're worried about is the election in november. can they use this as a talking point. so there is a lot of problems we have. i've been up here in d.c. for 18 months. i watched the democrats obstruct, do nothing, blame, do nothing. that is all they do. david: i actually never seen a racial insult as bare boned as that in my professional career. i just think it was, it was

absolutely disgusting. there has not been, as far as i know, a full apology for that from senator durbin. >> of course not. they don't apologize. tim scott is a caring individual that worked his tail off to come up with a bill that would do the right thing. david: yeah. >> hold people accountable but make sure we continued to have law enforcement we support which we should. david: senator scott, great to see you. thank you very much. >> appreciate it. david: coming up u.s. officially declared it revoked special trade status for hong kong. former state department official christian white ton joins us next to explalalala how they gonna pay for this? they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident. cut! is that good? no you were talking about allstate and... i just... when i... accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today.

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♪. david: u.s.-china tensions are rising. the u.s. announced they are revoking hong kong's special trade status with the united states our china and our ally india appear to be moving toward out right warfare. joining us state department official christian white ton.

i wonder if they're getting extended what they can handle internationally. >> amazing what they did, with the coronavirus comes from china, spread around the world and also deeply affected the chinese economy in addition to all the people in china it killed. instead of turning inward, securing their control, focusing on economic recovery, really they made a fascinating decision to be aggressive not just against the united states but everywhere, aggressive in the south china sea,ing a grist aggressive with the united states militarily and on the trade front. you know, it is taking on a lot and i think frankly they're going to lose on all fronts. the united states has not backed down on the trade issues. india, which used to be a non-aligned country that was not a u.s. ally is quickly coming to see eye-to-eye with the united states on china. really china has no friends in the world.

david: there are prices to pay for this. quite literally in the economic sense, we have our trade deal pending. we still, have a lot of, people, even those who have disdain now for china, like michael pillsbury and the perhaps the president himself want that trade deal to go forward. can it with all of these tensions? >> i don't think it can, not just because of the tensions but the chinese are not complying with it. i think the president would rather push this decision past the election and with all the economic turmoil now, no one will notice the turbulence from canceling this deal. china said it would purchase a tremendous amount of agricultural goods in the united states. it has some. we're talking about 1/3 of what they promise and they haven't come through with any of the structural changes they promised to undertake. it is effectively dead. it is just a decision whether we want to declare it dead. huge ramifications with this

trade change with hong kong. that puts an end to hong kong a city apart of the different city apart from the main land. that is the end of hong kong as a financial hub. david: to put a final point on it, christian, we're talking hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars diverted from hong kong to some other place, maybe singapore, some other place in the far east that will now become the major financial transaction center of asia. it had been hong kong. but it will not longer will be as a result of this change of status, correct? >> right. some of it just can't be moved. if hong kong was a great exit point, entry point into china, capital coming in, goods going out, very low tariffs, that just goes away. if you have a chinese good transshipping in singapore it is still going to be subject to higher tariffs. this is a huge setback to china. xi xinping has really gambled. he has been as tough as nails on everything. it is coming back to bite him i

think. david: finally, christian, it is mid-april when bret baier and some other journalists, josh rogen of "the washington post" got ahold of information about the specific role of china and specifically that laboratory in wuhan in which something happened to allow this virus to leak out. we knew this was back in 2019 by the way. it was far before they originally said it was being transmitted from person-to-person. we still have not heard the whole story of what happened there. nor is the world ready yet, i think to impose a price on china for what they have done in releasing this pandemic. will that happen? will the rest of the world and even the united states force china to pay some kind of price for unleashing this pandemic? >> i think so. i think there has been distraction with the on going, sort of duration of the epidemic. infections are up. death rate continues to drop

especially if you look at a seven day average here in the united states. once we get through this, past the current unbelievable political unrest of the united states. i think it will be time for recrimination. especially no longer as dependent on them for masks and other medical protective equipment and pharmaceutical ingredients. once we have the capabilities we'll turn the screws on china. you even see signs in europe, parts of europe, they are very angry what china unleashed on the world whether through incompetence or otherwise. david: if there is any silver lining, and it's a minimal one, considering the damage it has been done, the movement of the supply chains away from china. it is not only the united states but the rest of the world is doing the same thing. and china is paying a price right now. i don't think enough of one. christian whiteon, thank you for being here. >> thank you, david. david: white house is pushing back hard after mainstream media report claiming that russia

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♪. david: the white house is pushing back on a "new york times" report saying that the president was briefed on u.s. intelligence that russia offered taliban fighters bounties for dead american troops in afghanistan and did nothing. trump officials say that the report had yet to be authenticated and that the president was not aware of it. so is this a failure of the intelligence agencies or an example of media recklessness by publishing unverified claims and is the intel strong enough to demand some action on our part

against the russians? florida congressman greg stuebe is a u.s. army veteran and he joins us now. congressman, good to see you. thank you for your service as always. i have got to put aside for a he can is the president's role on all of this. you're on the veterans affairs committee. i'm sure this is a issue you want to get to the bottom of. do you think that the story is true, that the russians actually did this, set a bounty for u.s. service people? >> i think that is something we need to get to the bottom to and have actual real evidence. this seems like another russian hoax concocted by democrats and left-wing media. i wouldn't believe a "new york times" report from intelligence sources. after going through years after russian hoax with the trump campaign i wouldn't believe this without evidence first f this type of stuff is going on the president would be briefed on it. he wasn't briefed, what we're being told there wasn't even a

congregation in the intelligence community that the information was accurate. so they didn't even want to brief the president and vice president. even if our intelligence community can't even agree on it, certainly it is not something that bears evidence to start making accusations as to this president's culpability. david: despite the fact that the "new york times" has not withdrawn or corrected any part of the story, suggesting that the president was briefed by it, our own jennifer griffin, which is the golden star in terms of getting information from what happens in the pentagon and nsc, says we can confirm that the nsc did recently meet to come up with a menu of responses to russian actions but they did not brief the president on it, because as you say, it wasn't confirmed. >> yeah. the nsc is not the president. the accusation made by both the democrats -- i read majority leader hoyer's press release, basically putting all of this on the president and saying he hasn't taken any action? he wasn't even briefed.

so they're already saying that he didn't do the things he shouldn't have done as president and he didn't know about it. he wasn't officially briefed about it. already this is political issue where you have intelligence insider feeding information to "the new york times" when even our intelligence community can't agree upon it. david: can we find out who that insider is? >> i hope so. but i can guarranty you it will take matter of time before the information is out there but i would love to know who that is and under what authority he had the ability to speak to "the new york times." if he didn't have the authority to speak to the press he should be punished for leaking that information to the press. david: who would punish him? >> whoever he works for. whoever his direct supervisor is. david: would you have any authority? would congress have any authority to impose charges against him? >> no. it is within the administration. so it would be within the national security administration's hierarchy of command. if he briefs protocols and standards and procedures and leaked information that wasn't accurate and or wasn't appropriate to be leaked at that

point in time, he should be held accountable for that. david: all right. we are still, congressman, as you well know in the midst of trying to withdraw our 18-year involvement from afghanistan somehow. i'm just wondering if all of this kerfuffle is going to block our attempts to do that now? >> look i supported the president in his withdrawals and paced withdrawals. i served in iraq, spent a lot of time there. i can tell you a lot of my constituents wonder why we sent our sons and daughters to fight a war where we don't see the real mission and purpose at this time. i supported the president's plan to bring our troops back in a slow militarized withdrawal, with the support of our military commanders. i think there is a lot of frustration in the country and the constituency because of that. david: well, my son, not to brag but my son is a marine who served both in iraq and almost a year in afghanistan. he said the worst of his two

duties during his encam papment overseas. i would just hate to see anybody else do. that it's a horrible assignment. it is one that american service people, particularly in light of this new information should not be forced to serve under. congressman, thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. >> yeah, thank you. david: we want to alert everybody by the way to the special programing note. this thursday july 9th at 1:00 p.m. eastern, please join neil cavuto for a virtual town hall, america together, open house. among kneel's special guests real estate icon, pioneer, barbara corcoran who will be answering your questions as the housing landscape in america is undergoing rapid and drastic changes in these uncertain times. americans attitudes about evolving about just not where they live but how they live is really crucial. fox business, facebook, instagram or email us at

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museum of natural history. where does the cancel culture stop? we have media research founder and president, brent bozell. thanks for coming in. since the media is partial to the woke culture it is impossible to know exactly what americans, particularly american voters think of it. what do you think they think of it? >> well i think they began thinking that this was a stance against racism and how noble could that be? but i think what they're seeing with every day that goes forward this has nothing to do with racism. this has everything to do with tearing down america. the media know this and the media are in a sense in cahoots in sense that they won't report it. david, all this talk about tearing down confederate statues because of the symbolism of racism. i will argue that one all day long. let's put that to the side. these same, this same movement,

what else are they doing? they're tearing down, wanting to tear down the statue of ulysses s. grant who led the north in fight against slavery where hundreds of thousands people died. trying to tear down the emanpyization statue in washington, honored by the emancipation proclamation and paid for by freed slaves. tearing down the statue that honors the black regiment honors the black soldiers. you're attacking people anti-racist, this is not about race. this is about destroying the foundational principles. so today woodrow wilson. tomorrow teddy roosevelt. god only knows what will happen next. they're trying to tear down america. david: 90% of the media is out there to stir up racial tensions

even more than they have already been stirred up. meadite which use what the media does from left-wing perspective, you do it from conservative perspective, they do it from the left, they out and out lie what is going on. they put up the president over the weekend, some tweets he put up i had problems with, one he put up, most wanted posters of the rioters. they said that they were mostly minority suspects, that president trump put up on there, but in fact there were 15 most wanted posters that he put up. nine of the 15 people were clearly white people. it wasn't mostly minorities. it was mostly white people that he put up there. so they're lying in order to make the racial tensions even worse? >> sure. they're reporting that what is going on in seattle, with the mob taking over part of the city where people are dying. they can't get assistance. they're being gunned down. they're calling that a block party. this is the bias by commission

and bias by omission. bias of omission is putting spin of nobility that talks about domestic terrorism. the bias happens when you have the media saying coming to the president's defense, there is nothing that donald trump can do, nothing whatsoever where the media will ever defend what he did no matter how true it is. david: all right. well we'll see what happens in the fall, whether the american public buy it or not. brent bozell, good to see you, thank you very much for coming in? next up, new york city's bloody crime wave. what is fueling it? how do we stop it. how is the mayor rand and to make new york a safer place? we'll talk to federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy, hand-picked by then mayor rudy giuliani to

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democrat-run new york city and 61 people were shot in democrat-run chicago and 15 fatally killed. democrat states, a democrat city. president trump stands against defunding our brave police officers, caving to mob rule and cancel culture which seeks to erase our history. let's be clear, the rampant destruction of statues is not a part of any ideology but this anarchy is aided by failed democrat leadership. david: those numbers from the white house press secretary are stunning but listen to this. shootings in new york city are up more than 341% from this same time last year. murders are up more than 47%. burglaries up over 122%. it is said to be the worst start to june since 1996 yet there is still the push to defund the police. let's talk about it with former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, andrew mccarthy. andy, good to see you.

thanks for being here. you worked with the man who would eventually become the mayor who turned this city around, rudy giuliani. he was the u.s. attorney for the southern district. you joined him in 1986 i believe. so you saw the whole turn around of new york. we are now undoing in new york city, under mayor de blasio exactly those things that he did and he started that turned around our crime rate from 2200 murder as year down to below 300 which we have now. although it es going up again. should we be surprised undoing things that helped us is creating more crime now? >> no, david, of course we shouldn't be surprised. i had the privilege not only being hired by rudy as a young assistant but i had grown up in the bronx in the 1960s and '70s during the bad ol' days and anybody who thinks that those days can't return if we return to the policies of those

days is crazy and it would really be sinful to do it under circumstances where we saw the revolution in policing that began in the 1990s and gave us an unprecedented generation of domestic tranquilty and economic prosperity. we know why, we know what the, we know what the formla, we know what the policy is certainly irresponsible. david: andy, it saves lives, there are thousands of people who are alive because of the policing standards that were put in place by rudy giuliani. if black lives matter, because this primarily hit this crime, murder rate of 2200 a year which was, when it was at its peak in the early 1990s, that really primarily hit the minority community. so there are minority communities, whole communities, whole generations of people who are alive now because of those

policing standards. we are undoing it. i mean, is it it, do these people what are they thinking? i mean, i don't get it. do you? >> yeah. i think they philosophically think there are worse problems than crime. david: what is worse than being killed? >> well i think what they would tell you, david, is a little bit of left-wing raz sell dazzle to it, that when you start to arrest people that you actually make the problem worse because you send them into a cycle of incarceration and worsening crime that makes things worse under the circumstances. i, i don't buy it myself. you asked me a question so i'm trying to answer it. >> right. >> but i would agree with you, having a been a prosecutor for a long time, it is not just a matter of the tens of thousands of black lives that were saved by the policies that went into effect in the early 1990s, the

communities that were most plagued by crime and that will be and are being now in this crime spike we're having, the most plagued by crime are minority communities. that is just a fact. david: that's right. >> if you're going to cut back on policing, that are the communities that will be hurt the worse. david: what is the interesting thing rudy giuliani did as mayor, he focused on quality of life first. aggressive panhandling. free riding subways prostitution. times square, people forget it was a zest pool, it was a filthy crime-ridden cesspool. now a place where parents bring their children to see disney plays but it won't remain that way if things continue to go on the down turn in terms of the that quality life. >> that is exactly right. the idea to communicate that the message that the laws will be enforced. over time the real revolutionary

aspect of this, david, was over time it actually changes people's expectations and behavior and the culture, because people, their operating assumption is law and order and that is not the way it was in the 1960s through the 1980s. david: andy, we have to go but we turned this city around once. if things go south, can we turn it around again? >> i hope so, but i'm not as confident as i used to be because i think in the '60s and '70s, even though what went on the streets was crazy, the institutions were at least still strong and holding. what i worry now there is erosion of the institutions as well. david: therefore the social contract. you rip that up, and you're lost. andrew mccarthy, thank you very much for being here. really appreciate it. >> thanks, david. david: i'm david asman. in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us tonight.

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