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head lock, and by doing so, drawing cheers from the crowd of some 50 people who had rushed to the scene of the arrest. the shocking footage comes as residents suffered through a fourth straight weekend of deadly gun violence in new york. and yet they cheer gang members rather than the police who are trying to maintain order in the streets and peace in the neighborhoods. the nypd reported there were 28 separate shootings over the weekend between friday and sunday. 35 victims in all. and street violence is far worse now than a year ago. a 600% jump from the same period last year. one of the murders over the weekend, a 1-year-old boy killed in a park during a family cookout. no one has been arrested for the heinous crime. all of this taking place in a city where democrat leaders

defunded the police department by a billion dollars and forced the nypd to disband its, are you ready for this? its anti-crime unit. socialist mayor bill de blasio seems to take his city's residents for complete fools. he was asked about the spike in violence this morning, and once again he blamed it on the china virus. >> safety comes from a bond between police and community. that's what neighborhood policing has been about. and until the coronavirus, it was overwhelmingly successful. we have to fight back and become, once again, what we were. lou: there are not words to describe that man. meanwhile, in chicago at least 64 people were shot this weekend.

eleven of them were killed. five of the people shot were children. and on the west coast, a seattle area judge has approved a petition for an election to recall socialist mayor jenny durkan. her incompetent handling of the c.h.o.p. zone fiasco in seattle's capitol hill neighborhood resulted in the death of children. the petition needs 50,000 signatures over the next six months to move ahead. and in portland, that city gripped by violent demonstrations and protests, riots and ugly vanned -- vandalism of all sorts for 40 days and nights. that's right, 40 days and nights. consecutively. federal agents from the department of homeland security sent there to protect buildings including the federal courthouse in portland. according to the reporting of the seattle times, one of the groups involved in those protests and in those riots is

the pacific northwest youth liberation front. can you imagine such a name? the group has anonymous leaders and describes itself as anti-capitalist and anti-fascist. they say their goal is to upend the u.s. political system. portland's democrat mayor is quite a beauty himself. he's ted wheeler. he accuses the group of blatant criminal violence though. he got that right. but so far the mayor has done almost nothing to try to remove them. instead, the genius defunded his police department by $15 million. president trump has clearly had enough of the lawlessness that is plaguing american cities, those run by democrat mayors and with democrat city councils and government. today he called on democrat leaders to stop putting the lives of our police officers at risk in their communities.

>> our officers have been under vicious assault, and hundreds of police have been injured and several murdered. reckless politicians have defamed our law enforcement heros as the enemy. they call them the enemy. they actually go and say they're the enemy. and even call them an invading army. these radical politicians want to defund and abolish the police from our nation. far-left mayors are escalating the anti-cop crusade, and violent crime is spiraling in their cities. it's all far-left cities where they have no understanding of what has to be done. they don't have a clue. lou: president trump has vowed to protect the citizens of every city irrespective of who is in charge of it because those mayors are putting at risking every single day -- at risk every single day the citizens they are supposed to be serving but who they have abandoned in

many instances altogether. the president threatening as well federal intervention in cities where those leaders have failed to act. >> the radical politicians are waging war on innocent americans. that's what you're doing when you play with the police. numbers are going to be coming down even if we have to come in and take over cities because we can't let that happen. when you have 20 people killed, 22 people killed in one weekend in chicago and you have 88 shootings, it's not even conceivable. that's worse than afghanistan, i hate to say it, worse than any war zone that we're in by a lot. it makes them look like tame places by comparison. so we're not going to let it go on. lou: the president obviously frustrated at the failure of any of these mayors to act responsibly. it is almost unimaginable that a mayor, irrespective of husband or her ideology -- his or her

ideology, would leave innocent civilians and citizens vulnerable to the attacks of these vicious activists and anarchists in their communities. the president is saying very plainly that he is going to be there to protect these citizens irrespective of the wishes of these left-wing madmen and women who are running those cities. president trump's comments come at a round table discussion today with people affected positively by law enforcement. earlier in the day president trump talked with the national association of police organizations. this coming after president trump over the weekend rejected minnesota's request for federal funds to pay for the damage caused by the riots that followed george floyd's death. ed lawrence with the details. >> reporter: yeah, the minnesota governor says that fema told him that the damage

caused by the looting and the burning of both businesses in his state could be handled by the state. now, that's the same mindset the governor used when the riots were actually taking place. president donald trump questioning that mindset today. listen. >> cities that are liberally run, i call them radical lip, and yet they'll go and march on areas and rip everything down in front of them. if that's what you want for a country, you probably have to vote for sleepy biden, because he doesn't know what's happening. but you're not going to have it with me. >> reporter: the president, on june 1st called some governors weak when dealing with violent protests and businesses being destroyed. governor walz says he is looking for reimbursement in $15 million in damages from burning businesses. may 25th the protests started, the total damage to the state of minnesota was some $500 million

mostly to min yap his and st. paul. -- minneapolis. now, the argument for minnesota is that the coronavirus wiped out the anticipated $1.5 billion surplus in the state leaving a $2.4 billion hole in the budget. the denial comes a few days after minnesota representative tim emmer wrote the president saying the administration should undertake a thorough and concurrent review of my state's response to the violence. now, he also wants the federal government to offer recommendations to the governor to make sure that this level of violence never happens again. the minnesota governor has now 30 days to appeal that denial. lou? lou: well, that governor isn't very, isn't any brighter than most of these democrat mayors around the country who are watching much of their cities burn, their streets fill with violence. it's incredible to even think these, that there would be such a sense of entitlement on the

part of the left who has created, created the conditions for what we have witnessed in this country over the past almost two months. ed lawrence, great to have you with us. that brings us to our poll question tonight. should democrat-run cities ask for federal help to control their violent streets? should anybody answer in the affirmative? that's actually the question, should democratic cities be able to get federal help when it has been in their control to stop the violence in their streets. so we'll rework that and try it again. meanwhile, that's the question. we'd like to hear your answer. cast your vote are on twitter @loudobbstonight. former special counsel robert mueller, he's remerged after a year after he came undone during his congressional testimony. in a washington post op-ed, mueller defended his two-year investigation saying it is right that roger stone remains a convicted felon.

the national left-wing media ignored the fact that mueller's report found no collusion with anyone in the trump campaign, and all mueller's team did was charge people with process crimes. they also ignored this lie by mueller. in his op-ed mueller said, quote: by late 2016 the fbi had evidence that the russians had signaled to a trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the democratic candidate. bull. according to the department of justice's inspector general, michael horowitz, and his report that campaign adviser actually said this, quote: the trump team had received some kind of suggestion from russia that it could assist the process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to mrs. clinton and mr. obama. he was unclear whether he or the russians were referring to material acquired publicly or

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lou: the trump administration is fighting as hard as it can the deep state here at home while the united states is taking an unprecedented stand against chinese aggression in the south china sea. for the first time, the united states has formally reejected chinese -- rejected chinese territorial claims in the south china sea region. secretary of state mike pompeo

said this, quote: we are making clear beijing's claims to offshore resources across most of the south china sea are completely unlawful as it is, as is its campaign of bullying to control them. beijing uses intimidation to undermine the sovereign rights of southeast asian coastal states in the south china sea, bully them out of offshore resources, assert unilateral dominion and replace international law with might makes right. the world will not allow beijing to treat the south china sea as its maritime empire. breaking news now, more than 200 universities are now backing harvard and mit in their lawsuit against the trump administration's new rule that requires foreign students to awe a tend in- attend in-person classes. a brief was filed today by 59 schools that enroll 213,000

foreign students including each of the ivy league schools, stanford and duke. the judge expected to hear arguments tomorrow. if the judge does not suspend the rule, american colleges will have until wednesday to inform immigration and customs enforcement whether they will have in-person classes or will be online in the fall. well, joining us tonight is larry elder, host of the harry elder show on the -- larry elder show on the salem radio network, he's also the producer of the documentary uncle tom. great to have you with us, larry, and congratulations on the documentary, and i want to get to that. i want to ask you a couple of questions that flow from harvard and mit suing the government so that their students could take online classes here in the united states rather than at home. that would be, it seems to me,

on its face incredibly inefficient, requiring people to fly here to be in the united states while they could be at home enjoying the efficiencies and the democracy of online education. [laughter] >> right. well, i don't really know that much about that issue. i do know that the ivy leagues are in trouble for all sorts of reasons, not least of which that they have a quota system, although they deny it. and they are being sued because underrepresented students are getting in with much lower s.a.t. scores than some of these asian kids, and it's extremely unfair. lou: yeah, the ivy league has plenty of problems in that respect, as you suggest. >> right. lou: meanwhile, the country has a huge problem that is fundamental to any discussion of race, and that is, of course, the violence on the streets incited by the radical democrats who lead most of these cities -- in fact, the 20 largest cities

that are till going through -- still going through periods of violence. your thoughts about how it is that the black lives matter, a marxist organization, is now winning the support of individual corporations who are funding them. they're doing so, by the way, through the democratic party. this is not a nonprofit organization. >> right. lou: therefore, money is being given to the democratic party for which they're getting, these donors are getting a tax exemption, reduction, and the money flows to an organization that isn't a nonprofit. it's, on its face again, it's wrong. and possibly very much illegal. >> the sad thing about all of this, lou, of course is that this whole premise is a lie. black lives matter is built on a lie. the lie is that the police are

routinely mowing down black people because of racism. it's not like the government hasn't looked at this. every since the mid '90s, every three years there's the police public contact survey, and they ask 60,000 americans last year did you have contact with the police. if the answer's yes, they are followed up to find out if therapy mistreated physically or verbally. according to the cdc in the last 75 years, the rate at which police is have shot has declined 75%. and according to "the washington post" last year, lou, there were 9 unarmed black men shot and killed by the police, 15 unarmed blacks killed by the police altogether, about 23 whites. i defy your audience to name one unarmed white person killed by the police because the media does not care. 50% of the homicides in this country are black people the fact is that there's a real problem with homicide in the black community, a young black man is eight times to ten times more likely to be a victim of a

homicide than a young white man. that is why the police is there. and this is getting people killed, lou. it's one thing when the left has stupid ideas. they've got a lot of them. but this is causing the police to pull back, crime is going up in place froms like chicago, places like baltimore, and it causes young black men to confront officers unnecessarily because they have a belief taught by the democrats, by the media that the police are out to get them x. why shouldn't they be reactive? why shouldn't they fear that the police are going to do something to them? as a result, you have a heightened encounter but for the silly, false narrative that's getting people killed. lou: the anger and the ignorance of the left in this country, particularly the radical dems, is just, it is breath talking. there is no -- breathtaking. there really is no historical precedent for what we are witnessing the democratic party turn into before our very eyes. but i want to turn to your documentary very quickly.

black conservative, some would say in this country, that has always been considered an oxymoron. black and conservative, how could those two truths coexist? your documentary sets the path that they took to get to present day. tell us about it. >> well, my documentary also, lou, goes over the history of the democratic and republican parties. i'm amazed how many people are are -- unaware that the reason for the republican party was to stop the spread of slavery. and the first candidate that was successful at the presidential level was a guy named abraham lincoln. people like candace owens and herman cain and walter williams, all of whom are mentioned in the movie, when we bring up issues like porous borders on the grounds that unskilled aliens compete were jobs and push down on wages, we talk about lack of choice in schools. i went to a school called

crenshaw high school which was the center of a movie called boys in the hood. only 3% of the kids can do math at grade level. it's run by the crips. now, people like walter williams, shelby steel are called uncle tom, and conversation is shut down. it's ridiculous. lou: it is. and the idea that so many brilliant people in the community would be ignored, the conservatives that you've just mentioned and there are many others as well, but the idea that the community would ignore them and turn instead to the charlatans that have peopled the power structure too often of the inner city, it is in itself a travesty. >> you know, arguably the most popular magazine in black

america is ebony magazine. it doesn't have the clout it used to, but at one time, every coffee table in a black household had a copy on it, and every year they had an issue called the most influential black americans, and you would not find thomas sowell or walter williams. he's the only black that headed up an economic department in a university. their being ignored by the major media, and we tackle that in few movie uncle tom which you can see, by the way, on uncle tom.com. lou: uncle tom.com. thanks so much. larry elder, we appreciate it. look forward to talking to you again soon. all the best. up next, black lives matter funneling money to the democratic party. and the democratic party is returning the favor. we take it up next. ed rollins, michael goodwin. stay with us, we'll be right back. every time a fund manager sells a stock

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billion in taxpayer aid. $1.4 billion. many millions going to dioceses that paid huge settlements for clear city essex yule -- clergy sexual abuse settlements. joining us tonight is former reagan white house political director, fox business political analyst, the savant, ed rollins, pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the new york post, fox business contributor, michael goodwin. let me start if i may, michael, with you. and de blasio, who says, you know, please, this is just sociology at work here in new york city. it has nothing to do with the fact that he's defunded the police department, torn up the anti-crime unit. i think that's one of the worst piece of opt you cans.

if -- optics. if you're going to get rid of a unit, probably the anti-crime unit shouldn't be the first thing you take out. your thoughts, michael. >> well, i would agree that it is a sociological ec -- experiment in that when you pull the police back and you order them essentially not to make arrests and you promise them that you will not support them if they do make arrests and if they do make arrests the alleged felons will be let go immediately by the courts, then you step back and see what happens. so a sociological experiment succeeds in that the bad guys feel emboldened, they're no longer afraid, they pull the guns out of under their beds, and they start using them. so you have a 27% increase in murder and god knows how many additional shootings. so i think the success of the experiment is,

dopey decisions and the even dumber things he says? lou: well, the lives that he is risking and taking, i mean, then you add to that governor cuomo who has taken, i mean, he's taken no responsibility for the lives of the elderly patients that he threw into nursing homes and who subsequently died. i mean, there is no hiding place, there is no safety in this state or this city from sheer ignorance. >> right. lou: and this, by the withdraw,. ed:, is what president trump -- by the way with, ed, is what president trump is fighting in cities all across the country,

ignorance, and then there's antifa and black lives matter activists trying to upset the, to upend the political system of this country and its economy. i think the president is doing very well against this what is an amazing, an amazing level of just sheer stupidity on the part of democrat mayors and the risks they're taking with the lives of their citizens. >> it's going back to the state of the '60s when i grew up and the lawlessness all over the country. as long as michael goodwin writing his great columns and putting the spotlight on the mayor and governor, they won't get away with too much. what is going to happen, a lot of businesses are going to decide i'm not sure i want to live in new york anymore, i'm not sure my employees are going to want to come back here. of it's a very expensive city to live, and if you're not going to

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assault: the left's ongoing attack on american freedom. it's available for preorder. and we are delighted to have you with us, tom. i mean, i'm not sure what to make of the rejection of preorders and how big a deal it is. i do know one thing, that is the mail-in ballot campaign being carried out by the democratic party isn't just for the hell of it. they must find some advantage in it. your thoughts and what is being done and is it enough that's being done to stop it. >> well, there are two issues. you have voter fraud potential when you flood the mail with millions of ballots, many of which will go to people who have moved away or are dead. and then you've got the second issue highlighted by your story, that if you want your vote to count, the best way to do so is to go and vote in person. because relying on the postal service to make sure your ballot gets where it's supposed to be and is actually counted as has now been documented at least by npr is risky. do we want 1% of our nation's vote to be thrown out on election day? this is why we need to be encouraging people to vote in person, and we need to be

dissuading people from using the mail to vote unless it's an emergency. lou: yeah. this is all fine for a nice debate in the arena, but the democrats aren't engaging in a debate. they are ramming this down the throats of the american people, and the republicans are, as usual, are being somewhat bovine and docile about it all and just simply letting it go by. so it appears. tell me it's not so. >> well, the good news is some of the courts are stepping in, and they're preventing -- at least the supreme court preventing these leftists from using the courts to change the voting laws. it's getting now too late in the game potentially for the states to change the laws themselves. i mean, in california, for instance, they were prepared to mail, newsom was on his own, ballots to millions of people who weren't there and had died, and judicial watch sued and, actually, the rnc also sued.

and california actually stepped in and changed the law. so they're going to still send out millions of ballots, but at least they're going to try to restrict them from being mailed to dead people. but there's a significant risk of that happening anyway, which is the crisis. lou: well, you know, it's a great country, isn't it, when you have -- [laughter] we're no longer letting dead people vote. i mean, that's a boppo kind of piece of progress. >> well, look -- lou: lindsey graham -- yeah, let's move on to lindsey graham, because he is so much more important as the chairman of the judiciary committee and is doing such great things to reveal who the originators of the spy egate and obamagate are. now he's going to bring, he says -- like he says so many things -- he's going to bring mueller in to testify who just lied in an op-ed, for crying out loud. what do you make of where we are with mr. graham and his, you

know, that juggernaut of a judiciary committee he's leading toward truth? >> i want to know what his plan is. when you say you're going to bring in a witness because they wrote an op-ed, it suggests you're just, you know, seeing what works politically. i would advise senate lindsey graham if he wants to have an impact, invite president obama to testify. invite vice president pieden to testify. -- biden to testify. we have new documents -- lou: well, he dismissed those, tom. >> if he were serious, he'd bring in the leadership of the obama administration and ask them what they knew and what they knew and when and why did they direct innocent people being harassed by the comey fbi. lou: the comey fbi, the chris wray fbi, the mccabe fbi. it all looks pretty much the same in terms of what the public's right to know receives at their hands, doesn't it? >> that's right.

we were just told by the fbi there are 8,000 pages of records between page and strzok. they don't want to release them entirely until next year. and if they'd given them to us when we asked three years ago, we would have known about flynn's innocence back in 2017 and '18. but this fbi under wray has protected that whole gang by slow-rolling the release of information they knew would be devastating to the spygate theorizing, the spygate abuses they used to target trump with. lou: and andrew weissman wants, wants, oh, my gosh -- [laughter] he wants roger stone hauled before the grand jury in new york. i mean, what kind of nasty piece of business is this guy? >> well, the fact that he was number two or three, whatever you want to call it, at the mueller operation tells you everything you want to know. that he would haul in an american citizen to have a grand jury just ask him questions that he's curious about is absurd.

we've got documents showing, for instance, he worked with the ap to target manafort, he had the ap colluding with the justice department. he was a fan of hillary clinton. he was supporting sally yates as she was trying to upend the rule of law by subverting the president's travel ban. outrageous that he's still taken seriously in this issue. lou: well, it's just, it's just breathtaking to see what the left-wing media does with this, recycle it and take it to the barricades and then fire off broadsides at the, at the public. amazing. tom fitton, thank you for being here, as always. we appreciate it. judicial watch. up next, gavin newsom shuts down much of california again because of the china virus. dr. marc siegel, former white house physician ronny jackson, join us here next. stay with us, we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ pay for what you need.

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lou: breaking news now, california's radical dem governor gavin newsom today started closing again most dine-in restaurants, bars, movie theaters, other indoor businesses across the state because of a spike in the numbers of the china virus now in california. his order affects more than 30

counties that are home to about 80% of california's population. california's two largest school districts, los angeles and san diego, announcing today they will start the upcoming school year with full distance learning. that means no school, and they don't have to worry about, well, social distancing because they're going to have online education. joining us tonight is fox news medical correspondent dr. marc siegel and dr. ronny jackson, former white house physician, also candidate in tomorrow's republican runoff for texas' 13th congressional district and former admiral in the united states navy. it's great to have both of you. and let me start with the, with california. dr. siegel, we're seeing this where there's been openings, now we're starting to see closure again. more closings. what do you make of it?

are we looking at more waves of this? what in hell is going on? >> well, lou, it appears very punitive, doesn't it? and all of these things occurring at once. i want to point out that when governor abbott in texas closed down the bars and limited restaurants to 50% occupancy, you know what's happened? the case rate has dropped in half in texas, and the hospitalization rate for the first day today has started to go down. governor newsom is going crazy. first of all, he's saying the protesters, i'm okay with the bars closing and even maybe the restaurants and movie theaters, but what are you talking about schools? already school's going to online learning with zoom and young children can't socialize, and special needs can't be taken care of and get their nutritional meal? lou: you're saying it's bad public health policy. >> it's not consistent, lou.

it's not consistent across the board. lou: okay. >> it's draconian, and it causes more fear, and people try to -- lou: that sounds like bad public health policy to me, marc. [laughter] but turning to you, ronny, good to to see you. >> thank you, lou. lou: how much of this do you think is being driven by politics? >> i'm more skeptical than he is. i think a large part of this is being driven by politics. i think if this weren't an election year, we wouldn't be talking about school shutting down. i'm up here in amarillo today, and the governor's taken a step back here, but it hasn't been well received to be honest. folks are really going about their business for the most part. and, you know, we're just -- we've got to get people back to work, and we've got to get people back to school because we all know that some people can't get back the work until their kids get back to school as well. that's going to be a big burden for people around here in texas as far as getting back to work goes. and this is being driven, in my

mind, almost completely by politics right now. there's just a big push right now. i think really what they're hoping to do is make this such a big deal -- go ahead. lou: no, that's, i think you're exactly right. we're going to talk, continue our talk with dr. ronnie jackson and dr. marc siegel. we'll be right back, stay with us. ♪ ♪ just over a year ago, i was drowning in credit card debt. sofi helped me pay off twenty-three thousand dollars of credit card debt. . . to getting my money right. so thank you. ♪

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♪. lou: we're back with doctors mark siegel and ronny jackson. i want to start with this question. dr. anthony fauci has been all over the map, all over the airwaves. is he running for something? ebb know what? he was wrong about masks. he was wrong about international travel. he is wrong just about, on too much. marc, your reaction first? >> no, again, there lou, it is inconsistencies we're seeing most disturbing. that is where it is all politics because people are making political statements and they don't have anything to do with public health. the reason the masking got all over the map because there is no scientific evidence proving what extent masks work. we believe they have a role but people become religious about masks. same thing with governor knew some he is all over the map.

there is no consist ski. i'm completely against cools closing. really, really bad public health, lou. lou: dr. jackson. >> lou, one of the greatest things the president has done recently he transitioned from listening to the medical task force as much as he was, now listening to the economic task force that is trying to get this country back to work and i think that's important. lou: you're going to have a town hall meeting tonight with the president, right? what time is that? >> i sure am. that is 6:00 p.m. central here. we're getting together. the president is excited about talking to voters in 13, telling them why he is supporting me and why they need to vote for ronny. lou: dr.s marc, ronny, thank you very much. a heck of a way to talk to doctors, thank you, gentlemen. my new book, "the trump century," how the president changed the course of history forever. able at thetrumpcentury.com,

barnes & noble dot-com. tomorrow stephen miller, hudson institute michael pillsbury. they join us. we hope you will too. thanks for joining us tonight. good night from sussex. elizabeth: pushback is growing nationwide against violent protests. the silent majority are no longer silent. hundreds are stepping out into the streets from los angeles to new york. people are rallying to stop the generational rise in inner sy violence. killing dozens shooting hundreds including children. people say stop defunding the police. former nypd commissioner howard safir with us on this shift in the national conversation. will it have an impact? with us former independent counsel robert ray on senator lindsey graham saying he will call in robert mueller to testify as