gives us and indication how markets open. i let you know how futures open. i will take some of your questions. [closing bell rings] thanks for joining us. the tomorrow the ceo of nasdaq, joining me live on "the claman countdown. that will do it for the market action. the dow ekes out a gain of 147. melissa: trying to find common ground. top white house officials meeting with leaders on capitol hill as we wait for a briefing from president trump on the covid-19 response. i'm melissa francis. connell: i'm connell mcshane. welcome everybody, to "after the bell." so the dow is up on the day. stimulus and some optimism about vaccines seemed to help things out. we seemed to close off the highs of the session. s&p basically flat today. nasdaq pulling back in the red after hitting an all-time high again earlier in the day. it was due for a pullback. we'll talk about it. fox business team coverage. blake burman and edward lawrence both in washington, susan li in

the new york newsroom. blake, we start with you with the latest from the president. reporter: the latest is about an hour away, connell. we're set to hear once again from president trump, he will be once again bringing back the coronavirus briefings for the first time in many, many weeks. the brief from the white house is they say that the president will be talking about medical advances and the look ahead. that is why they say these are coming back. however when you hear from the top democrat in the senate, there is much different story as chuck schumer said today, these briefings shouldn't happen at all. >> these are going to be short briefings of the president mainly delivering information to the american people that is needed on therapeutics and vaccines. >> president trump should not take the podium. every time president trump takes the podium at one of these briefings he is a threat to public health. reporter: up on the hill earlier today senate majority leader mitch mcconnell outlined

republicans priorities for a phase four relief measure. to give you some top lines they are as follows. $105 billion to reopen schools safely. more ppp loans for businesses and direct payments for individuals and families. reimbursing companies for personal protective equipment and testing costs. tax incentives to hire workers and mcconnell's red line, business liability protection. >> the american job market needs another shot of adrenaline. not republicans are laser focused on getting american workers their jobs back. in addition to kids and jobs, our third major focus is health care. the reason is obvious. if we lose control of the virus or if research stalls, then everything else will be window-dressing. port been a business by day up on the hill because treasury secretary steve mnuchin, white house chief of staff, mark meadows, white house team negotiating for phase four set to meet over the last 45 minutes or so with chuck schumer and

nancy pelosi about a way forward. earlier in the day meadows and mnuchin also met with republican senators to sort of hear things out as to where they want to see things go even though mcconnell outlined what he wants to see in the bill. perhaps a bit of consternation in the room. here is what meadows, chief of staff said, i think more senators talking, expressing frustrations with perhaps where things are. clearly talking things out up on capitol hill. back to you. connell: blake more on that now as we go to capitol hill, welcome in our friend chad pergram, fox news congressional correspondent. picking up, chad, where blake left off. what are the biggest hurdles getting the next stimulus bill through. reporter: cost is going to be a major problem. there is a lot of skepticism about spending a lot of money on another bill here on the republican side of the aisle. that will be a, number one issue for many republicans. that is why they're trying to

cap this at about a trillion dollars here. listen from rand paul, republican senator from kentucky. >> i find it extraordinary that i just came from a republican caucus meeting that could be sort of the bernie bros, progressive caucus. gone up $3 trillion in the last couple months. adding another trillion dollars is the most physically irresponsible thing i have ever heard of. reporter: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is aiming for a bill that costs one trillion but a payroll tax cut could explode the deficit anywhere from $600 billion to a trillion dollars on top of the trillion or more which they spend on the bill. all depend how long they would suspend the payroll tax cut and there are only 10 senate republicans who are for the payroll tax cut this is why mitch mcconnell says democrats hold some of the card. >> that is starting place for discussion with the democrats. they have the ability to prevent

us from passing anything. i think it is pretty clear they are not irrelevant. we do have to talk to them. reporter: this is why we always say there is an old saying here on capitol hill, it's about the the math, it's aboutth math, it's about the math. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell can only lose four republicans on his side of the aisle before he needs help from democrats, connell. connell: it is always close, especially something as contentious as this type of a bill, chad. normal people want to know at the end of the day, karn they get it done. so can they get this bill through? >> mark meadows, the white house chief of staff said something prescient going into the speaker's office a few minutes ago, he indicated unemployment insurance is due to expire at the end of july. house speaker nancy pelosi indicated she want as bill done by the end of next week. that is the deadline they're aiming for next year. they have to work out a lot of stuff. do they extend that? how much do they extend it by? do they decide on another round

of direct payments. i talked to a senior administration source yesterday, they have to get this done. they will get this done. a lot of votes will come from the democratic side of the aisle. keep in mind house speaker nancy pelosi has a very good relationship, really good working relationship with mnuchin. they worked out the phase three bill that cost $3 trillion. that passed the senate 96-0, but don't look for any movement on this until the end of next week as the source says to me. it always comes together at the 11th hour. there might be 11 other hours on the clock, connell, but only the 11th hours matters and that comes at the end of next week. connell: that is the way they operate there. they always run it up to the end. to me, looking at these enhanced unemployment benefits, the extra $600 a week you mentioned been in people's checks that are out of work, how dug in from what you can gather are republicans on that? we understand, we've spoken to so many of them they don't want to disincentivize work. many are opposed to an

extension, but what about a compromise there? is there middle ground from what you can tell? reporter: absolutely. there will be discuss. depends on which side of the july the deal is actually cut. bill cassidy, republican senator from louisiana, he was saying after the last jobs report, maybe we don't have to look at another round of direct payments if the jobs report is good. if this negotiation bleeds into august which is very possible, they get a bad jobs report, you can see republicans might run to the door, hey, we have to have the extra unemployment insurance in there. keep in mind these vulnerable republican senators from the swing states, joni ernst from iowa, susan collins from maine, thom tillis of north carolina, they will be looking at this very closely to see how this impacts their re-election chances later this fall. connell: that is how it always plays especially a year like this. great stuff as always. he is all over it. chad pergram on capitol hill. melissa. melissa: promising results on a

vaccine. executive of pharmaceutical firms updating members of congress today on their progress towards finding an effective truck for covid-19. edward lawrence is in washington with the details. edward? reporter: melissa, the market or at least the dow is up on the positive news here. we have the first company coming forward with a vaccine by october if everything goes well. astrazeneca says it will have 300 million doses of a vaccine, sourced, made, ready to be distributed in the u.s. as of october if everything goes well. moderna, pfizer hope to have a vaccine by end of 2020. the head of moderna, they will have hundreds of millions of doses. pfizer says they will have 100 million doses this year. novavax was not in the hearing but has a contract for 100 million doses of the vaccine by the end of this year. johnson & johnson says it will be ready in march of 2021 with

300 million doses. merck to have a 300 billion doses in 2021. all say that the vaccine will be safe and effective. >> the fda is not loosening any standards. so business as usual, whatever portfolios or dossiers we bring to the fda have to meet these rigorous standards. reporter: and the administration says anyone who want as vaccine will be able to get a vaccine when it's ready. they are working out the costs. astrazeneca, moderna and johnson & johnson say the vaccine will be offered at cost or not-for-profit price. now pfizer and merck both say they will sell the vaccine for a profit. pfizer's chief business officer says they will not accept government money and their product will be from the u.s. >> none of the materials, none of the drug substance will involve any part of the china supply chain. so we anticipate for our vaccine

candidate we'll supply chain within the pfizer name dedicated to the united states. reporter: and all of the companies say that, except johnson & johnson, that the materials for the vaccine itself will come from the u.s. johnson & johnson saying it will come from other places. the executives in the hearing only the head of astrazeneca says that his kids would actually go back to school in the united kingdom in september. the other executives say they're having a conversation among their family to figure out if they want to put their kid back in school in september. very interesting coming out of this debate. back to you. melissa: edward, thank you for that. connell. connell: all right, taking a stand. apple announcing it will be 100% carbon neutral across its entire business, its supply chain and its products by the year 2030. susan li live in our newsroom in new york with more on this. susan. reporter: pretty ambitious from

america's biggest country. they want net zero climate impact for all devices in 10 years time, 2030. if you think about it, that is a big deal for a company that sells 200 million iphones every year. think of millions of ipads, airpods, mac computers and beats headphones they ship each and every year. they have a long plan. this is the road map to get there in a decade's time. this also includes thousands of suppliers. also part of the initiative is this accelerator fund which will invest in minority owned businesses as part of the 100 million-dollar racial equality fund. i spoke to apple, one much their top african-american executives, lisa jackson, her view combining these two very important initiatives. >> climate change and climate justice is very much about social justice. environmental issues have always unfortunately impacted poor communities, black and brown communities more than others. so we saw this as a way, could have just in this moment to say,

what if we also look to bring that apple business know how. reporter: we know that apple pledged to invest $100 million in the racial equality fund. also increasing at black-owned suppliers. expanding education for black developers and hiring and promoting within. apple says we can also do our part getting to carbon neutral by 2030. drop off, trade in the old iphones. not only is it good for the environment. but you also get a few hundred bucks off on the new i phone as well so doing your part. guys? thanks, susan li. melissa. melissa: all right. pushing forward, a new economic agenda. joe biden seeking to undercut one of president trump's tax advantages but is this proposal enough to fuel up his 2020 base? plus businesses fighting back. we'll talk to one restaurant owner new york about the hurdles ahead in her effort to give back amid the pandemic. retaking the podium. in less than an hour president

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♪. melissa: democratic presumptive nominee joe biden unveiling a third piece of his build back better recovery plan that will cost $775 billion to fund education and care giving. here is what he said just moments ago. >> if we truly want to reward work in this country, we have to ease the financial burden of care that families are carrying. we have to elevate the compensation of those providing the care, the benefits, and dignity of care giving workers and early childhood educators. melissa: here now is mercedes schlapp, trump 2020 campaign senior advisor. so, mercedes, the thought behind that he says he is going to give money foreuniversal preschool, for child care and for in-home health care or elder care.

whether you are a parent or have parents, pretty much everybody, he is going to give you money. how do you battle back against that message? >> well, because the reality is that the only way he is going to be able to pay for these big spending ideas is by raising taxes and so we know, as you know, melissa, you understand clearly, what the detrimental effects that higher taxes means to an economy is the fact that it will take away from, you know, the middle class. we know one of the things that joe biden has said from the beginning that hess first step will be to roll back president trump's tax cuts. i know he is, you know, right now when you have seen in the last three weeks, between his clean energy initiative, between his economic plan, now his new announcement today, you're talking about $3.4 trillion in terms of expense. then of course, adding government and bureaucracy to this process which we know is

incredibly inefficient. melissa: but you know democrats never think that they're going to be the ones that pay for these plans. they always say it is going to be the rich and it is going to be companies as if companies are inanimate objects f you go out on the street, ask potential voters they think net-net, they will end up more money, and someone else will pay the taxes, they will get the benefit. forcing everybody to do math, people don't like math, sadly, how do you get the point you're going to be not richer but poorer because democrats are successful in the past? >> they're is no question. i got to ask you if you liked math or not in high school. >> i do. >> but you're, you're right about that. i think that the equation doesn't add up, right? it's very clear that biden is doing what he can to push forward these big, spending packages that we know someone is

going to have to pay for. one of the things, you know, when you look at small businesses as being an example, they're the ones that with be impacted by this. whenever you start raising taxes on our small business employers and then they get to a point they can't hire more staff, you know, then they, then you don't see wage increases. i mean there are so, it really is a domino, negative domino effect in terms of our economy when all the democrats are proposing are these high dollar spending packages that we cannot afford, especially right now, we can't even afford it, the reality we've got to get our economy strong again. the only way to do that is to insure we have the fundamentals strong which means, keeping our taxes low, eliminating our job-killing regulations which president trumps ha focused on and insuring that we have free and strong trade deals which

president trump focused on as well. there is a way to do this where you can work with the american people to help provide relief in terms of child care and, but at the most important thing right now is assuring americans can get back to work, that is something joe biden basically says we can't even open up our economy because of covid. melissa: i want to ask you about the june fund-raising totals because they came in. i think we have them, put them up on the screen. joe biden and dnc $141 million. trump and the rnc, $131 million. i imagine both campaigns have more money they know what to do with. these are big numbers. does it tell you there is more enthusiasm against president trump on the other side that you see so much money going into joe biden's coffers? >> absolutely not. because what we're seeing is high dollar donors that are contributing to joe biden. that is in contrast with our very strong small dollar program that we see with president

trump. and really, part, you see this bump happen on the democrat side because of this joint agreement with the dnc where they're able to take individual money of up to $600,000. we are not concerned about this we have plenty of cash on hand, more than joe biden. we have been fund-raising, building out infrastructure for the past 3 1/2 years and so our ground game is strong. we are in a solid position as opposed to joe biden who is still trying to hire some of his state directors and think he sometimes more focused on his transition team than he is on his own, his own campaign infrastructure. so we're in a very strong position. the enthusiasm is clearly on our side. melissa: mercedes schlapp, it is always wonderful to see you. thank you for coming on. connell, over to you. connell: well, while you guys were talking, melissa, we have results coming in from united airlines which lost a lot of

money last quarter which is obviously expected in this environment and boy, that was $9.31 on adjusted basis. it was expected to lose 9.02. revenue was slightly better than forecast. the case united is making we know things are bad but our financial position is improving and will continue to get better. for example, it now says it expects the liquidity at the end of the current quarter up to $18 billion t was 15.2 billion as of yesterday. there are a few other metrics it cites to bounce back but tough times as we would expect from a big airline like united. in a moment the u.s. postal service feeling the strain as well. how that agency is handling budget cuts ahead of an election that may rely heavily on mail-in voting. plus overlooking college, some students are deciding to skip another four years of schooling by going in a different direction.

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♪. melissa: so the u.s. postal service on the brink. a new report is highlighting issues the agency is facing amid budget cuts and operational changes in the middle of a push for mail-in ballots. hillary vaughn in or link ton, virginia, with details. reporter: hi, melissa. a surge in mail-in voting in new york state's voting primary triggered chaos. here is what happened t all started after a federal lawsuit claims that governor cuomo signed an order meant to make mail-in voting easier. this is what the lawsuit says is causing this problem because, cuomo gave voters a prepaid envelope to send back their ballot in new york's primary but the post office normally does not postmark prepaid mail. so they were thrown off and many

ballots did not get stamped with a date. there is no way to know if thousands of ballots, that still need to be counted in one congressional race in new york's district 12 should be counted because they don't know if they have been received by election day. the white house says, a situation like this is exactly what they're worried about happening in november. >> so for a month they have been collecting ballots with no postmark date. in fact what they found is 19% of ballots have been rejected in queens, 28% rejected in brooklyn. there are questions about mail, mass mailout voting. reporter: right now the u.s. post office is making major changes to deal with their 160 billion-dollar debt, that mail carriers say will actually slow down the delivery of mail and could have a big impact on voters. >> anytime the mail slows down it is harder for the postal workers to serve the customers, whether it is a mail ballot or

anything else. so, again, we're just absolutely opposed to any effort to slow down mail, to delay mail, and that includes obviously for the ballots as well. reporter: but the new postmaster general says these changes are necessary for their survival saying they need to cut $200 million from their transportation budget by cutting down on extra trips and also making sure that every trip leaves on time, which means, mail carriers may have to leave mail behind at distribution centers. in a memo from the usps to their workers we obtained they say some mail carriers may have to leave mail in distribution centers in order to get out on the deliveries on time, saying quote, one aspect of these changes may be difficult for employees, temporarily we may see mail left behind or mail on the work room floor or docks. usps says the financial status will not affect the status of

voters ballots if they choose to vote by mail in november. but one point they do make, melissa, because mail delivery is slow right now, voters have to request a ballot at least 15 days before election day in november in order to make sure they get that ballot delivered to their mailbox in time to vote. melissa? melissa: the fact that they did not anticipate that problem with the prepaid envelopes on the ballots in new york is so classic and so stupid, i can't even believe it. hillary, thank you for bringing that to us. connell. unbelievable. connell: it is postponing the biggest sale of the year. amazon officially delaying its annual prime day in the event in the u.s., typically held in mid-july. but they delayed it due to safety concerns over the pandemic. the company did not specify a new date for the global shopping event but assured customers it would happen at some point later this year. melissa. melissa: all right. restaurants fighting back. we'll talk to a major player in

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>> yes. melissa: people wanted to support black owned businesses because of george floyd. where are you now, and what has that journey been like? >> the journey has been a roller-coaster. the one thing i will say is that we were very determined to keep that marquee lit on lennox avenue. we're celebrating our 58th anniversary on august 1st, so it is really important for our lights to stay on. it's a sign everything will be okay, harlem. we're a village. we're in this together. we will get through this. melissa: yeah. you know they say one of the things, was when the rest of the country burns a lot of the black communities like harlem, bleeds, i'm sorry, the rest of the communities like harlem really hemorrhage. that it hits you even harder of the has that been the case. >> it totally has been the case. my father came up with that term when we were trying to put into

words what we were experiencing. sylvia's restaurant like most small businesses are the backbone of the community. we're the ones that give the first jobs and sometimes the last jobs and for us to have to lay off the majority of 117 employees, with very, very tough for us. melissa: wow. >> we knew that we wanted to keep going. so we had to quickly pivot to online and delivery and take-out platform, which was hard for a lot of our regular customers because people literally have been eating with us every single day. so we still have some of them that come out every single day to get take-out to have some sense of normalcy. >> yeah. 117 employees, that is a lot of people. i'm surprised. that is a huge number. i know you got some ppp funds. are you able to bring some of them back? where are you now? >> this is where we're at now. we're in the process of bringing back a lot of folks but it was

really hard to have people leave the comfort of their home and you know, collecting unemployment to say that i'm going to venture out. we have a lot of multigenerational staff. when i say that that they have multigenerational elderly people in their family or younger children in their family. child care was an issue. the risk of catching covid and transit was an issue. right now we're about 50% which is definitely up from where we were at and i definitely attribute that to a light being shined brightly on harlem. we're the mecca of black culture and beyonce gave us a much-needed boost in the arm when she put out her black parade list that had her favorite businesses. we were happying to one of them. so we did notice a big uptick in tales when that happened and various other sites. but right now, you know,

melissa, we're focused on our 58th anniversary. we'll have the community breakfast and it will be social distancing and with grits and biscuits free for the community day before. melissa: wow. >> we're teaming up with a great organization in harlem called harlem parade to do a little extra something to highlights artists in harlem and really giving the businesses a further platform so they can just gain exposure and send out, you know, much-needed sos. shop here, play here. melissa: i know amid all of this you are still giving back to the community. you have a food pantry. you have folks coming in and they're dialing up those elderly who may be shut in to see if they can help them. before we run out of time, i want to ask you about, you are part of the new york forward advisory board trying to help people open safely. real quick, what are the top things that you're trying to do, trying to tell people so that we

can reopen and get back to business? >> we're trying to tell people to just slow and steady and make sure above all else, we're in the business of safety first and everything else comes after. follow those guidelines. make sure you're social distancing. make sure you're cleaning. slow and steady, that is how we have to do this. melissa: i love that. that is a great motto. we will see you soon up there for sure. thank you so much for coming on. best of luck, god bless. connell. connell: good stuff. the new trend of downsizing. we'll talk about homeowners are kind of ditching the traditional home for what you describe as minimal listtic lifestyle. good story coming up. we're waiting for the president, briefings are back. coronavirus task force brief something set to begin at the top of the hour. we'll keep you updated on all the latest developments. we'll be right back.

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♪. melissa: "fox business alert" for you now. reuters just reporting that house speaker nancy pelosi says, the one trillion dollar price tag on the republican aid proposal for the pandemic will not be sufficient to do what is needed for the economy and americans health.

of course not. a trillion dollars, that is garbage. that's nothing. that is no money. connell, you have a trillion dollars, don't you? just laying around? connell: in my back pocket right now. exactly. which actually plays into our next story saying more is not always bigger or bigger is not always better? tiny home sales have been booming, believe it or not. what is happening is, a lot of people are adding office space to their backyards with so many people working from home. grady trimble with the story. he joins us live. grady? reporter: cornell you don't need a trillion dollars for one of these. this is a full size tiny home, about 350 square feet. that will cost you about $85,000. when you think of tiny homes, you don't think of expanding, but that is what this company is using these smaller tie tiny homes. they're expanding the backyard empires. look at this one, it has a bed, a toilet, and it is like a pool house. you can plop it down in your

backyard. the other option they have been focusing on i'm with bob, the ceo of bantam built, is the tiny office. mike, show that as well. tell us about this. i hadn't thought about this. you plop it right in your backyard. >> yeah, absolutely, people working from home, they don't like working from home but they don't like working with everybody else also at home right now. so this whole idea came about with us combining the five years of experience that we have with custom spaces that are small and bringing them to people's backyards. reporter: and it's pretty simple. it is 96 square feet, all you need is a shed permit. it is good to go. you have a desk and tv in this one. it is pretty much all you would need. >> it is really the solution i think in a time where people have a lot of uncertainty. so we want to bring a comfortable space for people to work from home. reporter: here you go, connell, i will step in, get to work now

since i have been having fun out at the tiny houses all day. 8500 for one of these. it is a lot cheaper than renovating a house. especially if you don't have a spare bedroom. get a 75-dollar shed permit for your backyard. put one of these things up, with office or tv. could be a man cave too. connell: put your feet up on the desk. you look comfortable, grady. ceo says they love working from home. they just don't want to be near the people. looking good, grady. melissa: i love it. no degree, no problem. these industries offer great opportunity for those considering skipping college to get right to work. fox business's gerri willis has all the details. gerri? reporter: hey, melissa, that's right. so with the price of college sky-high, and many of these institutions now saying that all learning will be virtual, well, many, many high school seniors are saying hey, i don't need this. i may skip higher ed all

together. the prospects for employment, they're better than you might think according to joanie courtney, chief market analyst at employ bridge. listen. >> the good news is, there are tremendous amount of opportunities for people that do not have a college degree. not only in the traditional trades jobs like construction, and elect call workers, plumbing carpentry, but you also see it in health care. reporter: and in sales she says. in fact there are many jobs that don't require a degree that pay six figures. you heard a lot about logistics, transportation and distribution managers are paid $103,000 on average every year. commercial pilots, police supervisors. some of these jobs require more training but not a degree. john horowitz says he never regretting getting his ged and

starting a business. at just 19 he is already running a successful small bakery in santa monica, california. listen. >> so i think the best thing, the thing that i found is just something that i love to do, i can do every day, and i can get really good at, and i found that in high school. i just decided i'm just going to pursue it. reporter: and of course he is not the only one. think about it, you know, if college grads make 30,000-dollars more a year compared to people who don't get the degree, what are they spending for? 400 bucks a month on average to pay off that debt. think about that. back to you. melissa: no, it is so true. i know so many people who have the debt, don't feel like the benefit. the job they have is nothing to do with the degree and they don't need it for it. gerri, that makes so much sense. connell. connell: good story, the president is getting set to

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connell: all right. they ended the last time though when the president -- they went on for a long, long time. you know, there were statements made that were hardly disciplined, the president talking about injecting disinfectants at one point, that was right before they ended. what's the key this time? i talked to, i talked yesterday about it a little bit with karl rove, and his point was, well, the president should come out, get his point out and not really take questions, leave that to other people. but i believe he is going to take questions. what about the execution? >> yep. well, the execution should be, as karl said, factual, brief, to the point and then move on to other subjects. the american people understand there are probably three main things that concern their lives today. one covid, two is the economy, and three is social unthat they're seeing around the -- unrest that they're seeing around the country, haw and order. so the president needs to lead on covid, loo lead factually and give people information they

need that they don't have or they need to be reminded of. connell: from what i read on twitter, which can be dangerous over the last 20 minutes -- dr. fauci's not going to be there, he could easily walk through the door, but if he's not, what do you make of that? >> i don't make anything of it. the president is the communicator in chief. he is leading us through this crisis. you know, the prior briefings have devolve ised into celebrity and personality. that's got to end. these doctors are neither celebrities nor are they necessarily politicians. they shouldn't be. they're experts. and the president takes their counsel, and then he delivers the information as needed to the american people. connell: we'll talk a little bit about that information in a minute as long as we have time and the president doesn't come out. one more political point. we were talking about former vice president joe biden earlier in the show and kind of the narrative about biden's campaign

is that he's been sitting back in the base withment, hasn't come out, all that kind of thing. he did make a speech today. made a number of speeches, hasn't taken questions from reporters for the most part, one or two exceptions. but the point is he's been trying to let president trump beat himself. and if you read the polls, that's been working so far. so, again, coming out like this if you're the president, do you add to that risk? >> look, there's risk -- i can't think of any world leader who's ever been appreciated in their time. it's only time through history when you take full stock. leadership requires making tough decisions and being ad leader. joe biden chooses to stay in his basement. you can run for president, but you can't hide from the american people. and you can't be against the president and not stand for anything yourself. joe biden cannot get the credit for anything the president has done, and every time he has come out of the basement, it's been

to be critical and not offer any positive policy that would be better than what the president is delivering on. connell: so what would you focus on in terms of substance here? the numbers, obviously, places like texas and florida and others have been very tough over the last few weeks. so if you're the president and you're taking back control of the message, what message would you focus on getting out? >> the message should be what the president started with when corona hit our country, and that is we will spare no expense, we are moving heaven and earth in making sure that this virus is contained and that eventually there will be not only a treatment, but a vaccine in order to end this pandemic. and as we've seen in california, new york and other places, democratic administrations when governor cuomo asks for anything whether it's a hospital ship or hospitals in central park, the answer from this president has been yes. connell: right. >> the president's got to say --

connell: brad, we have to go because it's almost time for the president. good to see you, as always. brad blakeman. melissa and i will see you back here at the same time, but right now as we get set for the briefing, it is time for "lou dobbs tonight." have a great night. everybody. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump this hour is expected to make his return to the white house briefing room to resume the daily updates on the china virus pandemic and the response of local and state governments to the pandemic and, of course, the response of his administration as well. the president will not only be updating the american people on his administration's response to the virus, but also taking a broad range of questions about other policy issues as well, we expect. the president and his china virus task force last held a briefing on april 27th. since then the