challenged long before now. he have will be challenged again in this debate. elizabeth: okay. governor, great to see you come back soon. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching the evening educate on fox business. that does it for us. thanks for watching. stay with us tomorrow night. we'll have a o lot of headlines for you ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. as we begin this week, the body count may be rising from this weekend's violence. dozens of people were shot. at last count that number, 27 people killed by gunfire over the weekend. radical dems had their way in many of the country's largest cities as fundamental transformation that the left sought in the obama era seems now underway in those cities. democrat leaders condoning the mayhem that's overtaking their streets and neighborhoods, sanctioning the violence by effectively restraining law enforcement, and in some cases,

taking away police protective gear and nonlethal weapons. or at least trying to. anarchists, left-wing activists this weekend attacked law enforcement officers as they seem to do every weekend now. they tried to destroy federal buildings and local police precinctings. dozens of people were shot. violent mobs attacked law enforcement officers all across the country. and lawless activists rioted in at least a half dozen cities. much of the weekend's violence once again concentrated in the pacific northwest where thousands gathered overnight outside the federal courthouse in portland. there radical antifa anarchists, black lives matter activists started fires near the federal courthouse before agents fired tear gas against them to disperse the crowd. disburse the crowd. the trump administration ordered 150 more federal agents into portland to protect the federal

building and those law enforcement officers who are under siege. the city's radical dem leadership continues to escalate their war against their own citizens and common sense. and common decency. calling for the feds to remove that protective fence that helps to defend the courthouse. one deputy u.s. marshal guarding the courthouse described that fence as the only barrier between federal officers and the violent mobs. in an interview i with the ap saying, quote: on the other side of that fence are people who want to kill you because of the job we chose to do and what we represent. i can't walk outside without being in fear for my life. portland are's 60th -- portland's 60th straight night of violence punctuated by the police discovery of a backpack filled with ammunition and molotov cocktails. police arrested two people near

where that bag was discovered. police were at the scene after receiving reports of gunfire. many of the groups driving the violence in portland asking people around the country to protest in solidarity with them. this weekend that call was answered early in seattle where police declared a riot saturday night after five construction trailers were torched, numerous stores were vandalized. reports that antifa has distributed a list of businesses in seattle to target including starbucks and amazon, two of the better known corporations that support black lives matter. body camera video shows officers being hit with fireworks, mortars, rocks, bottles, you name it. the seattle police department says 59 of their officers were hurt. one had to be hospitalized, but that seems to be just fine with their mayor, the city council and the people of seattle who

are tolerating all of this violence. police say they won't tolerate any more of this violence, but protesters say, yes, they will, that the protesters aren't going anywhere. >> the protests are not over. nothing has been achieved yet. just because we have a majority ruling of council members that say they're going to support defunding the police doesn't mean it's going to happen. lou: top democrats in washington back the actions of left-wing militia mobs like antifa. just listen to jerry nadler as he tried to make his way to his car, asked this weekend to disavow the democrat-inspired violence. >> there's violence in the whole country -- [inaudible] antifa? that's happening in portland right now? >> that's only in washington, d.c -- >> and even in portland?

>> yes. [background sounds] finish. lou: semiscenes of anarchy -- similar scenes of anarchy that mr. nadler wants to ignore unfolded this weekend in oakland where hundreds of rioters smashed windows at the city's police headquarters and set fire to the alameda county courthouse. in los angeles mobs there using similar tactics. they vandalized a federal courthouse downtown before facing off against police officers defending city hall. an armed militia group by the name of the acronym nfac -- the f in that name, by the way, is both obvious and obscene -- they held a rally in louisville, kentucky. their rally, so-called, their protest was delayed because one of their nfac members shot and wounded three of his fellow members of his ineptly-named group. they were shot, it is reported, while inspecting their guns.

we can't confirm that that group is now looking for a new, more appropriate name. it was another deadly weekend on the streets of chicago. police reporting 59 people shot in 39 different shooting incidents. three of them killed. although the feds are now in chicago, radical dem mayor lori lightfoot is arguably either indifferent to the plight of her citizens under her leadership or simply helpless and confused and inept. >> we can't just allow anyone to come into chicago, play police in our streets, in our neighborhoods when they don't know the first thing about our city. lou: how much does she know when her citizens are being slaughtered? mayor lightfoot is seemingly more concerned about the feds' presence which she says is the

problem rather than the solution. rather than focusing on the violence tearing apart mostly black neighborhoods in her city. it's outrageous. chicago's murder rate is up a staggering 73% compared to last year. elsewhere across the country the murder rate is also soaring, rising 85% in minneapolis, 46% higher in new orleans, 37% higher in houston, up 24% in new york. joining us tonight, larry elder. he's the host of the larry elder show on the salem radio network, also the executive producer of the number one documentary in the world, "uncle tom." it's an oral history of the american black conservative. good to have you with us. larry, i've got to start with lori lightfoot. and the people -- ted wheeler in portland trying to blame the people who are trying to restore

order and enforce law in their communities that they refuse to do. he is -- >> right. lou: -- are their constituents so dumb that they can push this kind of disinformation to the gullible and get away with it? >> well, the majority of their constituents do not believe in this kind of violence, do not believe in burning up neighborhoods because of the death of george floyd. speaking of whom, i thought this was about the death of george floyd? the data do not show that the police are killing black people just because they're black. a recent interview, data does not show police are killing black people just because they're black. they're tearing up neighborhoods based upon a false premise. now, the reason the democrats don't say anything is because the rioters are advancing a favorite narrative of theirs which is that blacks remain plagued by institutional, systemic structural racism by the police departments, and they need to push that narrative because as long as they get

black people thinking about police brutality and not about schools, not about crime, not about economic empowerment, they can be guaranteed to get that 95% monolith aric black vote without which the democratic party cannot win at the presidential level. so the rioters are advancing in areas that they are pushing the voters. never mind it's false, it gets them votes, and that's what they're all about. lou: is it your sense at this time the left has miscalculated that they have gone so far to the left idealogically, they have gone to the point of anarchy and in permitting this kind of violence in their cities, city after city in this country, those -- they forget those people that they are supposed to be representing and serving are decent human beings who are being torn to pieces by this violence and who are having every, every part of their lives effectively devastated whether, as you say, it's education.

they can't even get to church some days. >> right. lou: it's absurd to think that this is an effective political strategy that can occur without a significant, tremendous backlash that will amount to a tremendous defeat against their nominee, joe biden. >> well, one would hope. but you till look at the polls. i'm in california. we've got a left-wing governor, as you well know. he remains popular. no evidence i can see that the mayor in chicago is suffering in the polls. but i do believe that they are miscalculating. i think there's a large number of people who are ticked off about what's going on. maybe they're not telling the media or the pollsters, but i believe people feel the number one responsibility of government is to protect people and property, and it's not happening. lou: let's take a look at what is happening, whether it's ted wheeler in portland, lori lightfoot in chicago. this from ted wheeler. this is the mayor's letter. as he describes the federal

presence there targeting and occupation of progressive e cities is unacceptable, un-american and unconstitutional. more over, these federal agents are not trained in modern community policing crowd control or deescalation strategies. i mean, that's just bizarrely ironic and, frankly, just stupid on the part of wheeler. i mean, he looks like a complete clown in everything he's doing. if they had any training at all in his city, he would be disbanding the police department altogether, is the uptake on that. >> well, it's insane. and this mayor, by the way, is in a re-election race, and his opponent more left wing than he is. the opponent wants to defund the police altogether, so don't expect this crazy mayor to be toppled anytime soon because his opponent is even worse. lou: and the citizenry of

portland, we're going to have to figure out ad jekylltive for them. larry, good to have you with us. always good to see you. up next, lindsey graham -- oh, yes, that lindsey graham -- >> making another promise to release documents showing crimes by the fbi. we're still waiting for prosecutions. for that a matter, we're still waiting for a significant hearing by lindsey graham's committee. and i want to remind you of my new book, "the trump century: how our prime minister changed the course of -- our president changed the course of history forever." it is available immediately for your preorder. you can order as many copies as you wish, one to infinity. do so at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com, barnes & noble.com. just do it to annoy the dickens out of the left in this country. i assure you, that will be the effect and, of course, your own

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crude oil, $41.62 a barrel. gold at an all-time high, rising to $1,945 an ounce. that previous high was back in september of 2011. under armour announcing its former ceo and current chief financial officer are under ftc investigation regarding accounting practices. shares dropped nearly 4% premarket but rebounded by noon. that stock trading at about $11 a share in afterhours trading. a reminder to listen to my reports three times a day coast to coast on the salem radio network. breaking news now, the united states has shut down its consulate in china days after the chinese government finally vacated its consulate in houston friday. u.s. officials entered the houston building friday afternoon. it's been used by the chinese as

a surveillance and spy hub. the communist chinese government for years using it as a headquarters for their spying operation in the southwest. china consulate workers had long been seen loading sack ises into two u-haul trucks. it's unclear where those vehicles are currently located, but you and i both can hope that the u.s. government knows where they are. senate judiciary committee chair lindsey graham now says he will release new evidence suggesting the fbi lied to congress. ooh, wow. who thought that was even possible? is there anyone they didn't lie to? that in regard to the steele dossier's reliability, you know, the one that has been completely discredited for now two years. graham suggested the fbi's lying to courts and congress are separate crimes. but guess what? neither of those crimes are any

of the -- or any of the obamagate actors have been prosecuted. graham has only interviewed rod rosenstein, and john durham has yet to wrap up his investigation and file charges. what is lindsey graham doing? legal scholar jonathan turley this weekend laid into the national left-wing media for their complicity in ignoring the obama administration and its use of a security briefing to spy on the 2016 trump campaign. it's astonishing that the national media refuses to see what is one of the biggest stories in decades. they are refusing to look at the reality, and they are, in point of fact, a major part of the cover-up, in my opinion. professor turley redose on to say the -- goes on to say the obama administration targeted the campaign of the posing party based on false evidence. willful blameless has its

advantages. what you can cover up is another way to express it, and that is precisely what the national liberal media expect democrat party -- and the democrat party has done for years now. joining us, sidney powell, one of the most important people working to make sure they don't get away with it. attorney for general michael flynn, former federal prosecutor, best selling author, great friend of this broadcast. good to see you, sidney. now we know that at the first intel briefing for candidate donald trump in august of 2016 that general flynn was in the crosshairs of the fbi, the justice department and very clearly the obama white house to entrap him, to frame him and to go after president trump. do you agree? >> oh, definitely, lou. they had to take out general

flynn because he would have quickly discovered everything that they had been doing, all the illegal surveillance they'd done, all the laws they'd broken. he would have tracked down the entire operation. plus he was going to audit the intel agencies and downsize everything. but remember the timeline. they opened crossfire hurricane on july 31st of 2016. then on august 15, strzok and page are texting about the insurance policy they discussed in mccabe's office. the very next day they open the file on flynn, and the day after that they sent agent pientka into what was supposed to have been a trusted presidential briefing to spy on flynn and president trump who were. two of the only three people who were there. lou: it's astonishing. and, by the way, for this to just now be coming out about that, that intel briefing is, to me, it's just mind-boggling that these things keep trickling out.

the more and more of it we learnis at the slowest pace possible, and it is absolutely maddening that the american people are putting up with this, to me. >> well, the existence of that briefing and the fact that it was held and pientka used it to spy on the president was actually revealed in the inspector general's report of december 2019. but the fact, the report of it that agent pientka did has only just been declassified. lou: and agent pientka, do we know how he's been so successfully hidden in the context he can provide has been so effectively, well, gagged? >> he is still with the fbi, as i understand it. when people learned he was in san francisco, they moved him somewhere else. so he has been well protected by the fbi. lou: should wray be indicted for covering all of this up?

i mean, a what is he doing? >> i wish i knew -- lou: if this isn't a cofferup, this is beyond stonewalling. >> oh, it's beyond stonewalling. we still don't have the original 302 in the flynn case or the one that was added after that. and we know it was materially altered to include things he did not say that they then based onlines of the false statement prosecution on. the fbi made up the entire case against general flynn. there was nothing there. it's just -- lou: i've got to share -- >> appalling. lou: i've got to share with you jonathan turley's comments, and i know that as a lawyer you and jonathan turley, i'm sure, respect each other mightily. here is what turley wrote today, and i would like to put that up on the careen if we could very -- on the screen if we could very quickly. more willful blindness by the media on spying by the obama administration. you get the gist of this. but the fact is, this is not willful blindness, this is a

cover-up. this is complicity with the democrat leadership, the deep state to -- as they refuse to even honor the basic tenet of journalism in this country which is to go after, to go after the truth. how can you possibly put up with this? the evidence that they pursued, sidney -- if we can go back to sidney, please -- how in the world can we have a situation where the fbi made up the evidence, worked with, coordinated with the democratic national committee, the clinton campaign and created what is a completely bogus story, framed, tried to frame the president of the united states to up seat him -- to unseat him and certainly general flynn? and now we're watching the appellate court taking its sweet time to dismiss a district court judge's ruling that he could

have amicus briefs, that he could insist on having his own prosecution? this is nuts. does the judiciary understand they look like they're complicit in all of the political corruption of this government and the obama white house? i mean, do they understand that? >> given the briefs that we filed last monday and that the government filed too which effectively drop-kicked judge sullivan into another country, the court should certainly understand that he has no position here whatsoever, and the rehearing petition must be denied. the whole process at this point has started to impugn the integrity of the court, and it's important for the article iii judiciary to stand up and enforce the rule of law as they know it exists. lou: let me be clear, at least for myself, i think the judiciary right now is a rotten,

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which they were unable to count meaning they were invalidated because they were not properly cast. if you want your vote to count, you should go and vote in person. that should be the message from republicans and democrats. this vote-by-mail scheme, obviously -- lou: tom, i -- >> -- obviously, the left wanted it because of the opportunities for fraud, in my view. but in the end, people may not vote by mail, and they may not vote in person which would be a disaster for all parties. lou: well, i -- you're concerned about the democrats, i find that surprising because it's the democrats who want to have mail-in voting. it's pretty clear why they do and what they have done so far and every instance of voter fraud that i'm aware of has been democratically crafted, up spired and led -- inspired and led. so i'm not so worried about that as i am the fact that the republican party once again looks like a party that's just ripe for getting rolled. and i don't see energy behind

it, i don't see any imagination, i don't see any statement whatsoever about what the republican party doing to assure an election with integrity and security. and, by god, i'm so tired of hearing strong letter to follow from -- [laughter] the republicans whether it's on capitol hill or whether it's in their local chapters. this is a, this is a real cry us that the president -- crisis that the president is focusing on. >> well, the parties filed a lawsuit here and there, and you point out the justice department, i know we've been filing lawsuits both in north carolina and pennsylvania to clean up the rolls under federal law. we're doing the enforcement of the law, not the justice department. they've been completely awol. two million names extra that it looks like both in north carolina and pennsylvania. millions across the country. many republican elected officials have bought into this coronavirus madness and have

started -- lou: you're not making me feel better. >> no, it's a serious issue and, you know, when i say democrats and republicans, i mean voters. people deserve to have their vote counted, and they're being sold this mail-in ballot scam that, in my view, could cause chaos on election day. look, there's primaries in new york a month -- lou: what can we do about it? i mean, we know this. we -- the president has been talking about it. we know about it. now it's time, you know, it's like a commercial. we don't do anything about bank robberies, we just monitor them. i mean, my god, when are people going to actually do something? republicans are starting to scare me as a do-nothing party. they've got a lot of talk, people talking about strong letters, even lawsuits, tom, with all respect. and i mean right now this is a political moment. that means people have got to be, as you say, voting in person. but they've also got to be securing those voting places.

>> well, that's true. the justice department take immediate steps to make sure the rolls are cleaned so that dirty names aren't being mailed. they can secure voting places, they can provide -- lord forbid, provide money to make sure they're properly staffed on election day. and right now though in many ways the train has left the station in terms of mail-in voting. it ain't gonna be pretty, because as people have pointed out in new york, it's been a train wreck in that primary up there where you had tens of thousands of votes being thrown out potentially. lou: let me very quickly go to lindsey graham. rod rosenstein, he brought in, won't talk to president obama, hillary clinton. but meanwhile, says that the fbi's been lying through their teeth. who does he think organized that, supervised it and inspired obamagate? does the name give him, like, a hint or anything? or is he so obtuse that that is

imperceptible? >> yeah, he clearly doesn't want to pick that fight. he ought to. biden as well, mrs. clinton, her lawyers. look, durham -- it's reported in "the new york times" today -- hasn't even talked to the primary source of the dossier. the guy who -- lou: i'm sorry. say that again? >> durham has yet to talk, according to the dossier's sources' lawyer to the key source of the dossier. lou: tom fitton, as always, you know, just ine deny inspiring us like the dickens this with optimism. [laughter] we appreciate your skepticism. thank you, tom. andrew cuomo blaming everybody but himself for all of the people who died in nursing homes in his state. a reminder about my new book, "the trump century," available for preorder right now at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com. we'll be right back.

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lou: new york governor andrew cuomo s running from responsibility, saying the media is responsible for reporting on the china virus deaths in new york nursing homes. listen to this. >> i don't believe your characterization is correct, i believe it is a political issue. i think it's "the new york post," and i i think it's

michael goodwin, i think it's bob mcmanus, i think it's fox tv. i think it is all politically motivated. if anybody looked at the facts, they would know that it was wholly absurd on its face. lou: well, joining me now, former reagan with white house political director, fox business political analyst, ed roll hintz, pulitzer prize-winning columnist for the post, michael goodwin. michael, let's start with you since the governor named you. i find it hard to believe that he is i trying to avoid responsibility for one of the most callous and lethal decisions of his political career. >> yes, lou, it is remarkable. he has blamed not only myself and colleagues at "the new york post," he's blamed the "wall street journal," he's blaming fox, he's blamed the workers in the nursing home facilities for

bringing the virus in and, of course, he's blamed god and donald trump. the truth is that these facilities were doing pretty well, the nursing homes, until he mandated that they take, actively stick patients if hospitals -- from hospitals who had coronavirus. he wouldn't even let them test the incoming patients. and it, it is obviously the most foolish things you could do among an elderly, vulnerable population. but he did it, and governors of some other states did it, and that's why roughly 40% of the dead are from nursing homes across the country. and new york, the number is at least 6500 dead in the nursing homes, and it could be as many as 12,000. because they fudged the numbers once it became an issue. so this is an extraordinary development, and it's almost comical the way cuomo is behaving, but there's nothing funny about what really happened

this those nursing homes. lou: what is comical, looking at what a state like new york has produced in the way of leadership when you look at de blasio running the city and cuomo running the state. it is, it is such a clownish affair that it is, as you point out, if it weren't so tragic what this governor did for so many people. and for him to shirk blame as he always does and responsibility is obscene. ed, i want to turn to you. the president looking pretty good right now. these latest polls, i looked at three recent polls that shows his intensity. he's running well ahead of biden. his voters are more excited. maybe a half, just about half of those surveyed believe that biden would be a strong leader while the president's approval and support support is as a strong and effective leader is running around 75, 76%.

these are awfully good numbers for him, are they not? each though it's early days, as they say. >> that was 99 days ago. a poll is one day. there's many polls that basically have the president this good shape, and the president should think of himself as not in good shape. he needs to run very hard. this should not have been a hard election. it's going to be a very hard and very close election -- lou: are you kidding, ed? are you kidding? it should have been a hard election? this man has been hit by a -- >> no -- lou: let me finish -- >> [inaudible] lou: i'm not going to let you sit there and say he should have been running away with this election. for crying out loud, man, he can't even find support in the right-wing media with, let alone -- >> you asked me a question, i'm trying to answer, which you never gave me a chance to answer. please -- lou: i will -- >> every single -- lou: okay. [inaudible conversations] >> every single poll in the

campaign, on the campaign, every senator, every governor, everybody knows this is a very close race. i don't deny the reasons why. it's still a very close race, and it's going to be a very close race no matter what. so they have to run hard, they have to do lots of things they haven't done, and the bottom line is the virus is like a bomb that went off in the midst of the campaign which nobody knows any kind of results from it other than it's making a real test of his leadership -- lou: let me ask you something, ed. >> what? lou: just out of curiosity, can you think of a single president who has ever been handed a worse hand for his re-election with 100 days -- 99 days to go until election? have you ever seen -- >> no. not only that, i know every presidency pretty well, the reality is my point, he has a very tough re-election. for whatever reason, he has a very tough reelection, and he

has to basically get this game moving forward and not underestimate his to opponent. you all is have a tendency to think biden's irrelevant. biden is a name on the ballot, he's the anti-trump vote, so the reality here is you can always pick one poll, but you look at poll after poll, including fox polls which are good polls, real clear politics which are good polls, and trump is down. lou: yeah, i know -- >> okay, well, just -- lou: i get it. the only ones that don't matter are the ones showing great excitement, enthusiasm and approval, three of them today. michael, you weigh in on this. have you ever read or heard of a president who had a tougher election hand dealt than this president going into his re-election? >> well, i spoke to the president friday for my sunday column about this, and he, he said something that struck me on this topic. he said that, you know, george washington would have a hard

time dealing with the covid virus. and i think that, as he said, we were on the way to victory until the chai china bomb hit us. and i think that's, that's the context of all of this, that everybody you talk to -- even those who didn't support him -- thought he was going to win this election fairly easily. and then the virus hit, and i think that it's given, it's given new life on the left, and the democrats, i think, that's why nancy employees su is calling it the trump virus. she's saying -- lou: she's also calling law enforcement -- yeah, but it's really the pelosi plague, isn't it? [laughter] because she hasn't moved to help families and working men and women, all of the people who have lost jobs, some 30 million of them drawing benefits. >> right. lou: i'm just saying to them an economy, the china virus, all of this combining i can't even think of one president who has

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♪ ♪ lou: joining us now, congressman devin nuñes, ranking member of the house intelligence committee, member of the house ways and means committee and a leading light in what has been the darkness of obamagate for four, almost four years. congressman, great to have you with us. what more can you tell us about your investigation into by pien, into the sub-course, if you will, for the discredited dossier farce that's been perpetrated by the f or bi, the special counsel -- the fbi, the special counsel and the justice department on the american people? >> lou, i would just say just when you think this can't get any more crazy, it does get crazier and much worse. now we have the brookings institute, a left-wing think

tank -- we've long suspected they had some dealings with this dossier, but now we know that they were involved in the development, the dissemination and the defense of the steele dossier. and what we don't know now that we know that the primary subsource, we were led e to believe by the fbi that somehow this was a source who was russian, that he might get killed if something happens. no, it ends up he's just a swamp creature living not far from here, lou. i'm coming to you from the capitol this evening. he lives right here. he's not in any danger. and the whole thing was made up, and the fbi knew about it. and so now the question, you know, is can we we get to the bottom of this and will durham get to the bottom of this in and now we also have to begin to look at should a left-wing think tank, a nonprofit, how old they have a nonprofit -- should they have a nonprofit status if they're developing a political hit piece, disseminating it and defending it for four years? i think they need to be looked

at by the irs. lou: i have to -- i'm just stunned that four, i mean, come august we're talking four years since the -- well, actually, the end of of the month. four full years since this conspiracy against the president began in earnest. and it stuns me that we are learning this -- who, the brookings institution? are you kidding? >> yeah. lou: do you have any doubt that they were involved, just out of curiosity? >> it's hard to believe, i know. look, we knew the president of brookings was somewhat involved at least on the periphery of this, but now we know for sure he was involved. we know that he was texting, you know, i'm not to going to say that he was texting buddies with christopher steele, but he was texting with christopher steele, the author of the dossier, at a very, very important time. when they were involved in trying to disseminate this. when you now add to it that we've got this swamp creature running around here that was supposedly e this russian source

that wasn't a russian source, i mean, what you're really looking at here, lou, i don't want your viewers to really get too confused about this. this story was made up. out of whole cloth by the clinton campaign. lou: yeah. and pushed and pushed by the justice department, the fbi and the obama white house, it appears. congressman devin nuñes, if you could stay with us through the commercial for your conclusion on this, we'd appreciate it. we'll be right back with the congressman. ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like liz and mike. an army family who is always at the ready. so when they got a little surprise... two!? ...they didn't panic. they got a bigger car for their soon-to-be-bigger family. after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right coverage for them and even some much-needed savings. that was the easy part. usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it- easy.

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always we learn something every time we talk with you. thank you so much for everything you're doing. join us tomorrow, byron york, congressman andy bigs. please be with us. thank for being with us tonight. good night from sussex. delma ♪ liz: the president on his way back to the white house after visiting a biotech company working on covid-19 vaccines in carolina today. tonight, we have a lot of stories for you. the f unrest spreading to a dozn cities coast to coast. going to give us the latest on what she saw. the latest with leo terrel on this debate now breaking out. what do the rioters want? what will make them stop? will they continue the mayhem even after the