♪. lou: that's it for us tonight. and, i want to let you know i'll be interviewing president trump next week. we haven't decided on the exact date. so you have to join us each day to find out. be sure to join us. reminder to preorder "the trump century." good night from sussex. ♪. elizabeth: fireworks today at the hearing featuring attorney general william barr. ag barr was shut down repeatedly by democrats as he tried to answer their questions and tried to call them out for not stopping rioters using explosives, power tools and projectiles that ag barr now says, quote, penetrated officers to the bone. ag barr asking simply when is it okay to burn down a courthouse. republican jim jordan exposing what democrats could not answer or explain. the one statement, one inconvenient truth that attorney general william barr said a year ago that got democrats full on

attacking ag barr, that the obama administration did spy on the trump team. that ag barr is getting to the bottom of quote grave abuses of power under the obama administration in both the trump-russia probe and the mic call flynn probe. doug collins with us on that. he is on house judiciary. he is with us today. former whitewater independent counsel, he is robert ray on ag barr, a u.s. attorney is probing the unmasking and railroading general michael flynn. with us, black voices for trump advisory board member, former cincinnati mayor ken blackwell. ag barr says this is quote, an organized assault on government and civilians of the riots going on. 1people killed in riots since they began. we're on this, another top democrat says and tries to claim these are just peaceful protests. but watch this the democrat mayor of oakland, california,

libby schaaf is not saying, no, they're not peaceful at all. texas congressman brian babin with us, on asking this question, when will elected officials step up and govern and stop this mobthis is not about . this is about keeping people safe. former top border official tom homan with us, on u.s. border officials warning this is a growing new development. drug cartels are now exploiting u.s. unrest in major u.s. cities. also the covid-19 pandemic. as they are now pushing massive amounts of drugs across the border as cartels are setting up shun in u.s. cities now in turmoil. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome tote show. you're watching the fox business network.

we begin with the explosive fireworks house judiciary hearing with ag barr today as democrats led by jerry nadler kicked it off. he basically kicked off the hearing that critics say the way he did it turned it into really vicious, nasty brawl. get right to fox news congressional correspondent chad pergram in washington with more. chad. reporter: liz, this was hearing that was originally scheduled for march but was postponed due to the pandemic. back then democrats really want towed hear from barr. but after the events of the spring and summer, the democrats really, really wanted to hear from barr today. it was variable cornucopia of questions, origins of russia investigation, deployment of federal forces into the u.s. cities. who ordered clearing of lafayette square. and pardon of president trump associate roger stone. >> your tenure has been marked by a persistent war against the department's professional core in apparent attempt to secure favors for the president.

under your leadership, the department has endangered americans and violated their constitutional rights by flooding federal law enforcement into the streets of american cities against the wishes of the state and local leaders of those cities to forcefully and unconstitutionally suppress dissent. reporter: barr defended how the doj handle stone's case. >> stone was prosecuted under me. i said all along that was a righteous prosecution. i thought he should go to jail. i thought the judge's sentence was correct. but the line prosecutors were trying to advocate for a sentence was more than twice anyone else in similar position had ever served. this is a 67-year-old man. reporter: democratic tennessee representative steve cohen wants the house to impeach barr. cohen and barr tangled what went down on lafayette square. >> i learned sometime in the afternoon that the president might come out of the white house and then later in the afternoon, i heard he might

go over to the church. >> maybe what happened your secret police were poorly trained just like your bureau of prisons guards were poorly trained and allowed the most notorious inmate in our nation's last several years, jeffrey epstein to conveniently commit suicide. reporter: barr said he doubted election results in november would be rigged. he said that the president would leave office if it was clear that he lost. liz? elizabeth: chad, thank you so much. staying on the hearing, this was the first time attorney general william barr testified before house judiciary. the attorney general did not testify during his tenure as attorney general in the george hw administration. the attorney general was threatened with a subpoena and potential impeachment by democrat chair jerry nadler if he didn't comply. what started attacks on ag barr said a year ago the democrats did quote spy on the trump team.

right out of the gate a.g. barr went after house dem i can't thinks trying toe discredit him over the investigations of abuses of power in the obama administration and trump russia michael flynn probes. let's listen. >> furthermore it was clearly established by the documents that the fbi agents who interviewed him did not believe that he thought he was lying but counsel concluded was, that the only purpose of the interview, the only purpose was to try to catch him in saying something that they could then say was a lie. >> so entrapment? >> therefore there was not a legit, the interview was unthreatterred to any -- untethered to any legitimate investigation. elizabeth: that is a.g. barr talking about the michael flynn case. let's welcome house judiciary doug collins. great to have you on. you were at the hearing. your take how it went down? >> it was great. went down this way. democrats talked, talked,

talked. didn't want to hear any answers. they didn't want to have barr they're because they didn't want to hear answers this was 1months not being able to accomplish anything intangible failure ever jerry nadler's chairmanship. they asked questions, every time attorney general tried to answer them they would cut him off this is sad showing of the congress can actually do we could have tried to get answers t was continue all back and forth of them accusing bill barr of everything i said in the hearing. i was surprised they didn't come out say he was author of the common cold. they tried to ascribe everything that was bad to him. elizabeth: was attorney general william barr in effect today accusing house democrats of attempting to cover up abuses of power during the obama administration, by going after him, attacking ag barr instead? >> he tried to reference to them couple times. be honest, liz, that is exactly what the obama biden

administration did. who we were talking about the investigations going on right now with durham. this was peter strzok and jim comey and andrew mccabe, also joe biden and president obama who in the white house actually talked about unmasking general flynn. these are the kind of people that were under the previous administration but believe me, democrats don't want to talk about that. that undermines their entire line of questioning. when they got in power, all they're trying to do is defeat the president. they don't want to talk about the truth. i disagree with my ranking member, i agree with jim most everything. i agree the spying was a problem. i think the biggest problem they have with bill barr, he tells the truth. he doesn't back up. that is what they hate the most. he told the truth about spying. he told the truth about the mueller investigation. and they can't stand the truth. elizabeth: yeah. we have the durham report about to come out. we have an election three months away. it seems the democrats are rattled by that. it got to bad they repeatedly cut off attorney general william

barr asking questions and the 50-page report, that the democrats are obsessed with william barr after he said, yeah, the obama team did spy on the trump team. let's watch this, what went down. watch. >> i gave instructions as to what -- >> reclaiming my time. >> i'm answering your question. >> you have to answer the question. >> i'm reclaiming my time. >> mr. barr i'm asking for a yes or not. i'm to lose my temper. >> gentleman's time. >> will you restore my time. >> you went over time, let the witness respond. >> why isn't it true?i will i will get to that. >> mr. barr, get to that. reclaiming my time. i have another question for you. >> on june 19th. i need to answer that question. >> mr. attorney general you answered question. you said under penalty of perjury i will a.n.s.w.e.r. the damn question, okay. >> are you saying no.

>> i think what i have receiverring to i have to see the content of it was supplying documents. >> mr. attorney general the statement was not limited to supply of documents. mr. attorney general, reclaiming my time. reclaiming my time. elizabeth: that is how it went all day. your reaction? >> liz, that is the american taxpayers see what a democratic majority looks like. if they want this to continue, look today see failed chairman of jerry nadler. they threw it out there to perceive a question. they didn't really want to have it. wanted to completely stay away from. protesters, rioters tearing up our cities. i came to the point what would be next? would democrat on the committee actually think we should stop them maybe fire bombing the capital or graffiti painting the u.s. capitol? they didn't want to answer that. they wanted to stay away from that. elizabeth: interesting you just said that. i want your reaction to what jim

jordan said of attorney general william barr. listen to this. >> used spy on carter page. salacious unverified dossier. jim comey's words, not mind. didn't tell the court that clinton paid for it. that christopher steele already communicated to justice department he was quote desperate to stop trump from getting elected. guess what? there were 15 more lies they told the court. 17 in total. they're outlined by the inspector general, each and everyone of them in his 400 page report. but guess what? chairman nadler refuses toe allow mr. horowitz to come here to testify and answer your questions about the 17 lies the obama-biden administration told to the secret court. elizabeth: i mean, is that what is really the issue, sir? the mueller probe was, let's look at it, 19 lawyers, 40

agents. 2800 subpoenas, $30 million. the fbi got to use powerful fisa wiretaps that catch way more information than criminal wiretaps and they came up with zeros. they didn't have the trump russia case. they didn't have the flynn case. but they kept going. it was an attempt to delegitimatize the incoming trump administration and his four-year term. is that what has the democrats so rattled that they're taking buckshot rifles to ag barr now? >> i think it is. besides having awful candidate for president, biden who can't remember where he is at most times this goes back to covering up. they promised american people when they won the majority they would show collusion in plain sight. that the president would show all these things are wrong. they would be able to do it. what happened they failed every time. mueller didn't go way they wanted. everyone of their hearings is a disaster. impeachment showed the world how terribly focused the president was and not the american people. what jim is saying is exactly right. if chairman nadler had competency as a chairman he would call the inspector general

to testify about this but realize they won't do this because that blows their entire theory of their case. they're exposed as embore record with no clothes. the democrats have no case. they have warranted to make it think the american people know never proven how desperate they are for ideas in this country. elizabeth: congressman, doug collins. great to see you. come back soon. >> liz will do. take care. elizabeth: coming up we're going to stay on the story. the silence from the democrats, ag barr calling them out on that. their failure to stop rioters attacking officers. failure to muster up condemnation of rioters using explosives to try to take down courthouses. now this, half a dozen democrat mayors are demanding congress write new laws, saying no, you have to outlaw and ban federal officials coming into cities trying to stop the chaos. we've got black voices for trump advisory board member, former mayor of cincinnati, ken blackwell with us on this next.

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♪. elizabeth: look at this video. it is the aftermath of when a molotov cocktail was thrown at

the courthouse in portland, oregon. these are riots you're seeing in portland, oregon. one u.s. marshal said it looks like downtown baghdad. that ask a direct quote. 18 people killed in riots since it all began. attorney general william barr made the administration case for sending in more federal officials. potentially 150 more coming to portland, oregon. watch this. >> since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? if someone went down the street to the court here, that beautiful courthouse we have at the bottom of the hill and started breaking windows and firing industrial grade fireworks in to start a fire, throw kerosene balloons in and start fires in the court, that okay? is that okay? now. they do start fires. they start fires if they can get inside. or through the windows and they start fires along the outside of the prison -- the courthouse. when the marshals come out to try to deal with the fire they're assaulted.

stormtrooper from the department of justice amounted to 29 marshals in the courthouse if the state would come in and keep peace on the streets, in front of the courthouse we wouldn't need additional people at the courthouse. elizabeth: let's welcome black voices for trump advisory board member. he is the former mayor of cincinnati ohio, he is ken blackwell. great to have you back on, sir. your reaction to what you heard? >> look, i think the attorney general did a great job today. he let them just pummel him with mindless allegations. then he raised the fundamental question, the role of government is to protect lives and to protect property. what we see in portland is the destruction of property and the, the creation of unsafe environments on the streets. there is a cry for that sort of

show of force to in fact protect property and protect people. the attorney general is right. look, it has been in our experience that there are joint operations of fbi, homeland security, atf, forces, to combat crime. you said something earlier in the broadcast. if in fact you don't stop the drip, drip of crime, you create not only a debilitating environment for your safety forces, you in fact create environments of opportunities for criminals. what we will see is more criminals coming to these cities that are in fact defenseless. this is crazy and i thought the attorney general did a good job. elizabeth: three officers now blinded, may be permanently blind because of the use of lasers. judiciary chair jer any nadler

is saying that the antifa violence is quote a myth. claire mccaskill saying these are peaceful protests. the mayor of oakland, california, libby schaaf, is saying they are not peaceful. they're riots. you see push by democrats to say they're peaceful, peaceful. people on the ground saying no they're not. an associated reporter went in there, ken, he watched six u.s. marshals get wounded, injured. they were bleeding. that is the associated press reporting that. your take, ken? >> we see a coordinated effort to destroy the rule of law and to create chaos, whether it is antifa, whether other anarchists or criminals. we see this attack on the fabric of our country and our cities and, the choice is ours. do we sit on the sidelines and let it happen or in fact do we

push back? i say push back. elizabeth: great to have you on. come back soon. okay. texas congressman brian babin will weigh in next. stay right there. ♪ at you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums and possibly tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax.

♪ >> what makes me concerned for the country is, this is the first time in my memory that the leaders of one of our great two political parties, the democratic party, are not coming out and condemning mob violence and the attack on federal courts. why can't we just say, you know, violence against federal courts has to stop? can we hear something like that? elizabeth: okay. that was attorney general william barr testifying today saying that regardless of your political views elected officials should condemn violence against federal officers and the destruction of government property. more criticism pouring in against democrats like joe biden, jerry nadler and others downplaying the riots. critics say there is nothing peaceful or mythical about officers getting attacked with power tools, commercial grade fireworks, blinded by lasers or getting trapped by rioters inside of buildings as rioters

try to burn the buildings down. welcome texas congressman brian babin. sir, great to have you back on. what were your thoughts when you heard the ag say that? >> just i couldn't agree with him more. we're seeing comb pleat anarchy. you know, i would say this, the democrat elected officials in this area should resign immediately if they will put anarchist the and criminals before the safety and protection of their own citizens. it is outrage just and inexcusable. and the mainstream media is simply awol here. you know we're hearing some of these democrats downplay what is going on. everybody believes what they're seeing on television and as you mentioned in your earlier segment, citizens in these areas like in portland, they absolutly know what is going on there. it is violence of the it is chaos. it's a risk to their lives. if you're in a sphere of influence of the democratic

party which is now controlled by the radical left, you run a very grave risk if you disagree with them, not just called names. you could be assaulted, beat up, murdered as we've seen. elizabeth: all right. so watch this as antifa and protesters deface and vandalize memorial in los angeles to fallen officers. it is called the wall of sacrifice. it's a memorial to officers killed on the job. i just want to follow up, what did you mean by you could get murdered? >> we've seen people be assaulted. we've seen number of police officers killed in the line of duty since all of this chaos ensued. and you're talking about the taking down of a monument to our great police officers and our police, law enforcement. that is a thin blue line. i will tell you, it is getting thinner by the day as democrats

try to close them down, to defund them. it is incredible to think that they would put their citizens at that grave of a risk. there again we see monuments being torn down. we're seeing, we're in the throes of what i think, i would call the great american purge, american history purge of 2020. it is going to ensue, continue i can see that in these democrat areas. elizabeth: you know, republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel called what is going on in portland deeply frightening. she called out democrats including joe biden on their silence bit. watch democrat claire mccaskill say what is going on in portland is peaceful. watch this. >> i know that is going on in portland, by and large a peaceful protest. what is being put in front of the american people, way too much of the footage and fireworks of shields, tearing down the fence. that is a teeny portion of the

people. i am with michael. it is not smart for them to be picking a federal building. i'm all for the protests. elizabeth: okay. let's break it down, again, 18 people are now dead because of these riots. we have federal buildings destroyed. we've got officers, dozens and dozens of officers injured. we have three officers potentially blinded by lasers. and an associated press reporter was inside the building with the rioters attacking the federal courthouse. he saw these marshals and officials getting wounded. they are taking a lot. they're taking hits here. how can claire mccaskill say that? >> because she is a democrat. she is being controlled. the whole thought process of the democratic party. the radical wing of it is the tail that wags the dog of the democratic party now and you know, i don't think that, what she is missing, i would think,

would be what america can expect if the democrats win in november. you're going to see mass chaos. you're going to see the defunding of police department the. it is going to be a very, very bad situation. i can tell you that. elizabeth: right. the question is, do peaceful, do peaceful protesters, you know, throw molotov cocktails? do peaceful protesters burn down federal courthouses? do peaceful protesters use tasers, sling shots with batteries in them, throwing frozen water balloons, launching fecal matter, using crowbars, sledgehammers? here is other thing. mayor of oakland, california, democrat libby schaaf, she criticized rioters are turning, turning peaceful protests into violence. a group wearing helmets and goggles set fire to courthouse in oakland and vandalized a police station, shot at officers. i like your response to democrat

rahm emanuel downplaying what is going on. >> that's what i'm saying. so they're not, i wouldn't paint a broad stroke is my short answer. there are people trying to hijack these legitimate proprotesters, create violence of the response from the federal government shouldn't try to make antifa the face of the protest. elizabeth: it is not some people. it is thousands of people in u.s. cities now swamped with rioting, where the rioting is happening. it is thousands of people. your reaction, sir? >> my reaction is, it is absolutely outrageous. they have their eyes closed. they have an agenda. that, has to be followed. and truth doesn't seem to matter. we have seen these citizens that live, i mean, look, you see federal and private property destroyed. democrats don't care. you see the, you know, you see

police officers, assaulted. democrats don't care. you see the destruction of all of the neighborhoods, businesses, livelihoods, democrats don't seem to care. it doesn't fit the agenda. and so this is what i think, people have waked up. they see this they're outraged. i think president trump is doing a masterful job sending in the federal agents and sending in some more help. they definitely need to be there to protect lives and federal property and private property. so i commend him, one 100%. appreciate him doing that. >> congressman babin, great to see you. come back soon. >> thank you, liz. good to be with you. elizabeth: coming up, great to be with you too. fox news contributor deneen borelli next on an nfl player saying you know what? i'm not going to do it. i am not going to protest against the anthem and the flag and use that as a platform. not going to do it.

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♪. elizabeth: okay. back to the big business of sports. look at this. pittsburgh steelers star stefan tuit says you know what? i will not take a knee during the national anthem against the flag and protests there. it is expected that national anthem protests will break out across the envelope during the up come 2020 season. look what he tweeted. i will not kneeling for the flag, and screw anybody ho have a problem with that. look what he says about his grandmother. fans are turned off by sports getting political. he says my grandmother was a immigrant from the caribbean and she worked hard. he understands what it means to

be an american and that flag stands for. bring in fox news contributor and trump advisory board member deneen borelli. what was your reaction when you heard about this pittsburgh steeler player saying he will not do it? >> i applaud him for speaking out, liz. he understands what it means to be in america and to have the opportunity to live in america. his grandmother is an immigrant. he has other family members who emigrated to the united states to achieve the american dream. and so he gets it. he understands it. and i applaud him for standing up and speaking out. elizabeth: you know, how do you think other nfl players are going to react? kneel something seen as solidarity but we're hearing players you know what? shouldn't be using the flag and the national anthem as a platform. how come we're not kneeling in front of a bank of microphones outside of the stadium?

why don't we kneel then? don't basically use that time, that other people see us at times for something sacred. soldiers and people, minorities died for that flag. your reaction? >> no, you're absolutely right. honor the flag, honor our national anthem. and they need to think about the opportunity they have to make tens of millions of dollars to run around playing football. that is great for them. they're able to use the god given talent. for them to stand up to, neil, push back on our freedoms, our liberties, the history behind our national anthem and the flag is absolutely outrage just. but you know what they're doing, liz? they are alienating those who do appreciate and love and stand for the national anthem and the flag. so i'm waiting to see what the stands are going to look-like with this upcoming season. if they're going to play that, the borellis will not be watching nfl football.

elizabeth: okay. but you know, watch, i hear what you're saying. watch wnba players, they didn't just kneel, they walked off the court before the national anthem was played. your reaction to democrat rahm emanuel equating kneeling at the flag protests to worshiping in church and kneeling when praying? your reaction to that? >> yeah. the guy who left chicago in shambles. it is outrageous that rahm emanuel even formed those words and said them but i'm not surprised. but you look at this, this is all under the umbrella of black lives matter, liz. this radical extremist organization that wants to dismantle our core values and principles. dismantle our nuclear family, our law enforcement. they don't like freedom. they don't like liberty. they don't like america. and what america stands for. so people need to understand and recognize what black lives matter is all about.

it is not about black lives. if they cared about black lives, what about the millions of aborted black babies. what about the black on black crime in chicago? what about school choice, that would give a hopeful freedom and future for disadvantaged people in the neighborhoods with broken schools. if they cared about black lives they would be protesting and supporting those efforts but they don't. elizabeth: deneen, great to see you. fiery deneen borelli. we love your insights and perspective. come back soon. deneen borelli. great to see you. coming up jim jordan from house judiciary defending a.g. barr to talk about spying on the trump campaign. the attacks on barr started a year ago. we have former whitewater independent counsel robert ray on that. he is our guest on the railroading of michael flynn. that came up in the hearing today too.

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>> that one word, that is why they're after you, mr. attorney general. 15 months ago, april 10th, in senate hearing, i think spying on a political campaign is a big deal. spying on a political campaign is a big deal. it sure is and since that day since that day, when you had the courage to state the truth they attack you. they have been attacking you ever since. every day, every week for simply stating the truth that the obama-biden administration spied on the trump campaign. elizabeth: that was ohio congressman jim jordan. he is a ranking republican on house judiciary, explaining why the democrats he thinks have been attacking attorney general william barr. welcome former whitewater independent counsel robert ray. robert great to have you on. what are the thoughts when you

heard that? >> that the attorney general was right all along and in turn that the president who has been saying the same thing that something like this should never happen to another president again, whether donald trump or anybody else. they're both absolutely right. you know, i think, what it reflects also is an understanding that the democrats know how serious this is. there was no answer from them to the fact that it is now really a matter of confirmation that that is in fact what the obama justice department accomplished. >> elizabeth: let's lay this out. ag barr confirmed at the hearing today that u.s. attorney general durham is investigating obama abuses into the unmasking the michael flynn. a.g. barr said the only purpose of the flynn interview was to catch him in a lie, untethered to any legitimate investigation. let's break it down. 19 lawyers, 40 agents, 50

interviews. 4800 subpoenas, 30 million bucks. the mueller probe found nothing. what happened, correct me if i'm wrong, robert, when before robert mueller was appointed the fbi admitted behind the scenes it didn't have a trump-russia probe base. it admitted it was going to drop the case into general michael flynn. it didn't have derogatory evidence against him. they used powerful fisa wiretaps, more powerful than a criminal wiretap to get information t didn't happen t wasn't working out. but when the president trump asked the fbi to disclose publicly admitting behind the scenes, comey, clapper, lisa page. clapper intelligence official. peter strzok, there is no there there. when he said go easy on flynn, james comey sets up a leak to the media. he is saying he is obstructing our eggs have when they admitted they didn't have a case behind the scenes. your reaction. >> therefore they did not have a investigation with a predicate

which meant that they -- weren't prepared to do that. elizabeth: we're having technical difficulties. did we get them back? did we get robert ray back? >> my apologies, my audio went out for a moment. elizabeth: that's okay. finish your thought. >> they went have the sport the investigation, and they wouldn't let it go. when i say they, it. stuart: extended all the way up to vice president biden and barack obama and james comey. they wanted the investigation to continue even though they knew it should not. elizabeth: okay. robert ray, sorry about the technical difficulties there. come back soon. we love having you on. >> thanks very much. take care. elizabeth: sure. coming up u.s. border officials now warning that drug cartels are exploiting the u.s. unrest in the covid-19 pan dem

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tom, great to have you own. you and officials are warning drug cart tells continue to take advantage of u.s. authorities dealing with. dealing with turmoil and pushing a lot of drugs across the border. what is your reaction? >> couple of things. first of all, that is accurate. something else we need to talk about since illegal immigration is down and criminal cartels have a lot to do with people across the border there they're looking for extra income. that has been shut down with the president. they will increase drug peddling in the at port of entry. they're more vigilant not delaning family units. they will push out to maritime specifically in the caribbean but president trump is already on top of that. several weeks ago he announced military riff and coast guard

will remain vigilant in the caribbean to counter act their reactions over there i think the u.s. government is in a good place for a good response. elizabeth: they're catching vehicles like ford mustangs, honda accord, tractor-trailers with pounds and pounds of fentanyl. hundreds of pounds of cocaine. thousands of pounds of methaphetamine. let's show the viewer what was caught almost since october last year. 38,000-pounds of coke. look at fentanyl. nearly 2500-pounds of fentanyl. nearly 500,000-pounds of marijuana. nearly 115,000-pounds of meth. fentanyl is scary. a small dose can kill people, right? >> yeah. fentanyl is a 100 times stronger than heroin. fentanyl caused 60,000 deaths in the country last year. two drugs cutting off between the ports of entry.

fentanyl is leading the by a lot. port of entries is dealing with the drugs. port of entry, every car is stopped. if you smuggle drugs through a port of entry, you will be stop and questioned, whether your car is searched or not depend on interview. they know the port of entry is the best bet. that is why the numbers are going up. elizabeth: how are they doing it between the ports of entry rather? >> a lot of ways with vehicle traffic with no border wall. another reason why president trump needs to keep building the wall. when i was a border patrol agents. a quick story, we seized 211 kilos of cocaine. broke through a chain-link fence and broke into the united states. two years ago i went back there, i was at convention. i went up in the same area, reminisce. i saw a great big beautiful wall. no one is driving a truck over there. a lot is drive in, muled in on

backpacks. a lot is being flown in. again cpb has great intelligence both in south america and central america and mexico. so they're actually interdicting a lot more than they used to percentagewise. elizabeth: you know, we're seeing also at the border in texas, they caught a commercial shipment of ketchup, nearly four tons of pot in that commercial shipment of things like ketchup. can you talk to us about the drug cartels now taking hold in cities? a powerful drug cartel with ties to south texas. the new generation cartel. you know, they're also, we're seeing firearms also being caught in these separate drug smuggling attempts. talk about what the drug cartels are doing in u.s. cities. >> the drug cartels set up shop in all the cities, all the way to new york city. it has been expanding. mexico stepping up counternarcotics. they're looking to expand their operation especially in the united states.

look as enforcement as it is country is going through a painful time right now. there is high demand foreillegal narcotics. it is unfortunate. if you want to stop the whole drug cartel and kingpins and illegal drugs in the united states. one of the things the united states can do is stop demand. address the drug addiction and demand for drugs. if they can't sell it they will not smuggle it. we need to do our part in the united states. don't get me wrong, criminal cartels are well-organized, well-financed. they have better weapons than u.s. law enforcement does. they have technology, drones, water technologies it is a catch up game with these people. we have to constantly stay ahead of them when it comes to technology. we have to president at the right time with the effort on this. elizabeth: to do it. you're saying the border wall works? >> it worked every place they put it 100% of the time. the data clearly shows that. elizabeth: tom homan, great to have you on. good to see you.

i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching evening edit on fox business. join us tomorrow night. we hope you have a good evening as well? thanks for joining us. hank you . that does it for us, lou -- ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump this hour set to hold a news conference from the white house briefing room. we've received no guidance yet from the white house as to what the president will be are -- will be speaking about, but we'll bring you the president's remarks as soon as he takes that podium. we'd also like to bring to your attention that i'll be interviewing president trump next week. please be sure to join us on the broadcast for that. and president trump's news conference upcoming follows attorney general william barr's first ever appearance before the house judiciary committee. it didn't go well for the