among the guests here tomorrow. hope you join us. follow me on twitter @loudobbs. like me on facebook @instagram @loudobbstonight. i will interview the president next week. join us for that. and join us tomorrow. good night from sussex. elizabeth: more fireworks on capitol hill for the second straight day. this time republicans led by jim jordan, taking on powerful big, tech titans. jim jordan declaring it's a fact they are out to get conservatives. he brought dozens of examples of censorship of conservatives. before he could even get a word in president trump fired off a tweet warning that he will drop even more executive orders if congress does not bring fairness to social media and to big tech when it comes to conservatives. republican ken buck from house judiciary, he is with us tonight, how this will hit the 2020 election. he was among the few chosen to

grill these powerful ceos. also with us tonight, black voices for trump 2020 member jack brewer on this new fight, attorney general william barr now says it is possible nancy pelosi, quote endangered the lives of federal officers tweeting they are called, quote, stormtroopers as these officers put themselves on the line working to stop mob violence. 188 of them injured so far. they are enforcing the very same laws led by nancy pelosi and congress that have been enacted. after major blow back, pelosi trying to deny she said. that we have to the her tweet and that debate. this new fight, we'll have trump 2020 campaign senior advisor lara trump if the democrats and media are explaining away ultraviolent rioting and what is going on there cnn host says it

is not fair how it is reporting. federal courthouse bombed in portland. the smoke waves were powerful they were felt far away. what other democrats are saying about that. republican strategist ford owe coconnell, he says reason democrats shut down the william barr, during that brutal hearing. it has to do with obama era and abuses of power. the cia fought with the fbi for pushing that now debunked, discredited steele dossier, the opposition research democrats paid for. the fbi won the fight. tom mcclintock breaks down how the shock waves are still reverberating of sham opposition research paid for by the clinton campaign and the the dyc to take down team trump. coming up. james comer is pushing hard against democrats who analysts

warn, want to rig the vote, rig future elections. a fight could potentially dwarf battles over alleged voter fraud of mail-in ballots that democrats want. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right to hillary vaughn in washington, d.c., with the big headlines from today's clash with big tech titans on capitol hill. hillary, great to see you. reporter: liz, great to be here. this hearing was excuse forerepublican lawmakers to finally get answers they had for years about conservative censorship among some big tech platforms. ceo sundar pichai admits he remembers being in the meeting where some executives pledged to make trump's 2016 victory just a blip. >> this is simple question.

can you today assure americans you will not taylor your features any way to help, specifically help one candidate over another, what i am concerned about helping joe biden over president trump? >> we won't do any work to politically tilt anything one way or the other. that is against our core values. >> but you did it in 2016. reporter: facebook's mark zuckerberg addressing allegations there is ongoing systemic conservative bias on the platform saying it is possible that one of his tens of thousands of employees could have their own motives. >> would you at least be willing to acknowledge based on irrefutable evidence before us that you don't seem to have investigated that it is possible at facebook your employees do have the power to disadvantage conservative viewpoints? >> of course when you have tens of thousands of employees,

people make mistakes, people have some of their own goals some of the time. reporter: liz, that was some of the most straightforward answers we heard so far in this hearing. it is still ongoing. we'll bring you updates when we have them. liz? elizabeth: interesting, hillary, great reporting there. great to see you. hillary vaughn. hillary just reported he did take the fight to the world's richest and most powerful men whether social media like google sensors conservatives and are biased gatekeepers from their perches in silicon valley. more people are shellerred in place. they're ordered to. they're getting information on line. their combined market value is five trillion dollars. that is quarter of the u.s. economy. twitter's jack dorsey was not there. more from jim jordan saying today. watch this. >> i will cut to the chase. big tech is out to get conservatives this is not

suspicion or hunch that is a fact. if i had a nickel it was just a glitch, i wouldn't be wealthy as our witnesses but i would be all right. witnesses see prior to their vote something pretty darn important. why this committee hearing is important. look, we all think the free market is great. we think competition is great. we love the fact these are american companies but it is not great for censoring people. elizabeth: let's welcome representative ken buck. great to have you back on. you were there asking questions. are you convinced what they are saying that they don't censor conservatives? because now we're hearing they were doing it in 2016 at google trying to drive trump victory into just a blip? >> they absolutely sensor conservatives and promote on websites liberal viewpoints and they absolutely affect the outcome of elections and think can't just excuse this as some minor glitch or some mistake by an individual. it is part of their algorithm. it is part of their company

culture. and frankly it wouldn't exist if it didn't have the anti-competitive behavior, if they didn't have such a dominant position in the marketplace, their activities wouldn't exist. elizabeth: yeah, you know the argument has been these are private companies. they should be allowed to do whatever they want with their own search engines but it is deeper than that. the internet is like a utility. should they be regulated like utilities? because the trump administration is now moving forward to hold them, basically dial back their federal legal liability shield from lawsuits if they alter or editorialize users speech. so, how do you, how do i think the push should be done to stop this? >> well there are a few issues. one, they are regulated by the federal trade commission, the antitrust division at the department of justice. they are, and they should be regulated because thermono police. and -- thermono polys and they

should be regulated. congress wrote the laws that affect the internet they wrote laws that excepted these companies from certain libel actions, it is called section 230 and section 230 needs to be amended to make sure that congress doesn't allow the kind of bias that is currently going on. elizabeth: i want to spell out how they're basically writing their algorithms to knock out conservatives from you know, from search results, suppressing conservative content, doing fact checks on conservatives with dubious information. so, you know, "breitbart" is getting shoved out of search results. "daily caller," federalist, they are getting hit. we have sound bite from jim jordan on this. show the viewer what jim jordan said about this. listen to what jim jarred dan

said today, watch. >> july 2020 google removes homepages of "breitbart" and "the daily caller." 2019, amazon bans president trump's account on twitch. take buildings down posts from president trump's election campaign. may 20th, 2019, former facebook employees, admit facebook routinely suppresses conservative views. elizabeth: he had a lot of examples there, sir. your reaction? >> jim is absolutely right. it is clear these companies discriminate against conservatives. it is clear we need to closely examine the law to make sure that doesn't happen. it is also clear that americans need to understand what they use this search engine or use this social interaction platform that they are getting a biased information and they need to take that into account. elizabeth: the issue is, this country is now being driven with

content online. the debate is being driven with content online that is shutting out important facts and information that the american people aren't seeing and it is being basically, it is now being funneled through these tech giants where, it is basically, you know, shutting down debate, censoring information. not giving american people the information they need to make reasonable, rational conclusions about the big issues driving this country today. so this is a serious issue. the national conversation is really being harmed here, sir. your final word? >> i think absolutely is a serious issue. i think what we need to do is make sure that these companies aren't so big that they dominate the marketplace. we need to make sure that we have different search engines and different opportunities for americans to get information. elizabeth: all right. congressman, great to see you. thanks for joining us.

>> thank you. elizabeth: next up, newly declassified government documents show the cia fought big time with the fbi led by james comey. the fbi under comey was pushing the now totally debunked and discredited steele dossier that democrats funded opposition research into intelligence community assessments. fbi won that fight. the shockwaves from the sham dossier to take down the trump team still reverberating today. tom mcclintock from house judiciary breaks down that fight for us next. >> october 2016 they use the dossier to spy on carter page. salacious, unverified dossier, jim comey's words, not mine. they took it to the fisa court. didn't tell the courts that the clintons paid for it. didn't tell the court that the guy who wrote the document, christopher steele already communicated to the justice department that he was quote, desperate to stop trump from getting elected.

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♪. elizabeth: senate intelligence releasing newly declassified documents that show the cia got into an intense fight with the fbi led by james comey in late 2016. because the fbi team there demanded the discredited, debunked steele dossier be put into the all-important intelligence community threat assessment for the country on russian interference. now the fbi won that fight and

got steele's opposition research which was paid for by the hillary clinton campaign and the dnc. it got put into a appendix into that threat assessment. welcome tom mcclintock from house judiciary. great to have you on, sir? your reaction to this story? >> liz, it is another layer of corruption we're learning about from comey and his partisan zealots at the fbi by there is part of that testimony that indicates the fbi was pushing to get it in because of pressure from president barack obama. that is deeply disturbing and hasn't gotten a lot of attention yet. what is even more disturbing is the fact that they repeatedly told the fisa court, as well as the represented into the intelligence community that this disinformation was coming from a a lylely placed source in russia with close ties to the kremlin.

we found out last week, itit waa lie and they knew it was a lie. it was not combing from miley placed russian in the kremlin. it was coming from analyst at left-leaning brookings institution, with a record of draining driving convictions and basically making it up with his drinking buddies. they represented the it as something highly credible when it was not. elizabeth: sir, are critics right to warn, the fbi doing this, getting steel opposition research into the threat assessment, that gave it more gravitas and stature than it deserved and gave cover to the fbi to keep using this opposition research in order to get fisa wiretaps to spy on the trump team? because basically what you're seeing is, james comey would later admit to fox news that there were serious doubts and questions about the steele dossier and they should have been noted to the fisa court. he said that is an interview.

what do you think? by doing that, did it give them cover? >> they were trying to give credibility to a report they knew was absolutely fraudulent. they have known that from the beginning. and it wasn't just the spying they used it for. they used it to give legitimacy to an investigation, the existence of which they could then leak to the press before the election, implying that there was a serious investigation of donald trump for being a puppet of the kremlin. they knew that was false. they did that specifically to influence our election and when they failed to do that, they then doubled down and used it in quite successful attempt to obstruct the duly-elected president and his incoming administration. that is the crime. and if we can't get to the bottom of it soon, i'm afraid that, if biden is elected and we have somebody like keith ellison take over as attorney general, we'll see this investigation go away very quickly. this kind of practice will become institutionalized in the most powerful agencies of our

government, in justice as well as intelligence. elizabeth: the newly-released disclosures, let's show it to the viewer, they show former cia director john brennan and other cia officials saying fbi's james comey was trying to make a strong case to be included in the main text of the intelligence community threat assessment but the cia and office of dni led by james clapper said, it was quote, not appropriate. the stuff made no sense. that steele information was very unverified. they didn't want it in there. here is the thing, christopher steele testified in a british court he was hired, paid for by democrats to pull together this opposition research, sir, in case hillary clinton wanted to use it to contest the 2016 election if she lost. so steele's source told the fbi that steele embellished, made up information, was putting into inside the fbi, third hand rumor, gossip, said over beers

but somehow hillary clinton's opposition research made its way into the fbi and was used for fisa wiretaps to spy on the trump team. your reaction to that? >> i couldn't be any more clearer than that. they used it to the give the terrifying powers to the department of justice, intelligence agencies, to spy on americans, to invade their privacy, to threaten their families as they did with michael flynn, to take away their livelihoods, to take away their earnings, take away their freedom. this was being employed for political purposes. if that precedent is allowed to stand, no one is held accountable, we've taken a giant leap from becoming, being constitutional republic to becoming a banana republic. elizabeth: congressman mcclintock, great to see you. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: sure. coming up speaker nancy pelosi now facing major blow back for calling federal officers in a tweet, quote, stormtroopers.

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♪. >> one thing i learned from my time in los angeles, we don't retreat here in detroit. we just not going to do it. you saw the images, tucker, of streets where there was lawlessness, burning, looting, no sight of police officers. we weren't giving up ground to the radicals. we just didn't do it. i saw what it was like after rodney king in los angeles. and so, not only just that, detroiters, detroiters are fed up with these radical protests. we got a couple of things. we got a great police department, great leadership, but we have a community that stands with us and buy us, said

enough is enough. elizabeth: that was a major interview tucker carlson did with the chief of police of detroit, michigan. it is interesting that detroit has not had rioting. detroit had a long history to struggle to come back from riots decades ago. the detroit community stands with police there. more people are saying, stop the violence. welcome former nfl player, current member of black voices for trump 2020, he is jack brewer. great to see you, sir. your reaction when you heard that? >> amen, finally. it has been too long. we talk about what is happening in our streets but no one wants to talk about the cause. to see a law enforcement officer stand on tv, really push back against everything we're seeing from the left from these anarchists, it's a breath of fresh air. i think communities need to hear that. imagine being folks living in seattle and portland and especially underserved people. i mean you heard this police

chief stand up for his communities. he is standing up for the poor people. he is standing up for the folks who don't have a lot of resources, who depend on their law enforcement officers. that is really what this is all about. elizabeth: you know, we're showing images of a molotov cocktail thrown at the federal courthouse in portland. the shock from that, could be felt big time for blocks around. let's back up. the criticism from democrats they have not stood up enough to say, stop the violence. governing elected officials in the democrat-run cities, the riots in portland have gone on for two months. federal officers only went into portland less than go weeks ago. all told, 18 officers have been injured in these riots, jack, nancy pelosi not trying to argue. she did not tweet federal officers are not stormtroopers. here is the tweet. certainly did say that. see it right there. ag barr says it is possible she

endangered officers lives. watch nancy pelosi claim she never said that. watch this. >> he implied under oath it is possible that this would be dangerous to law enforcement and called your remarks irresponsible. we give you the floor. >> i said they acted like stormtroopers and they did. you don't send in people acting like stormtroopers into the scene and evoking even more, even more unease and unrest but he should be answering for what he did at lafayette square, a disgrace. so this, it is really, it was like a blob. elizabeth: okay. here's the thing. pelosi, but pelosi did not tweet quote they acted like stormtroopers. she said flat-out stormtroopers. she said ag barr is a quote blob? can you take both of those issues on? >> i mean, definitely, imagine

that had been a republican that made those statements, you would be calling him sexist, homophobic, you name it. they will race bait you. they called the president a racist. anything that the right does the left tries to act as if they're the ones with virtue. it is absolutely ridiculous to have the speak of the house and the united states government not standing up for our federal law enforcement agencies. it is unbelievable that they sit back and watch this i always want to talk about the cause. we don't talk about that enough. the cause of these issues that are going on, are because of democratic mayors and democratic governments across our nation that have completely stripped morality out of these neighborhoods, out of these communities and now people feel like they can be lawless. no one stands against them. i tell you, the democratic party has made this their habit. they want to appease. they don't want to lead. the reason why nancy pelosi said what she said is because she

wants to appeal to her base. she wants to rile up the left and have these angry mobs because she really feels that that gives them the best chance to beat donald trump in 2020. and it is not going to happen. elizabeth: jack, you just put, you just put your finger on it. that it is about leadership. leadership is just saying you know what? how about bombing federal buildings is just wrong? you just don't do that. how about not calling officials quote, blobs. that is just wrong. don't do that. these officers as andrew mccarthy point out puts their lives on the line to enforce the laws enacted by congressed, passed by the house which nancy pelosi oversees. jack, wasn't it nancy pelosi who said after republican steve scalise was shot past a baseball practice, we must unify now? what about unite and transcend? how about doing what is morally right? does heightened partisanship give right to behave badly on

both sides? both sides of the political aisle, we desperately need a return to decency. your response to that? >> you hit it dead on. at some point we got to get back to being americans that love. we have to get back to morality because when nancy pelosi speaks like she does, what she is saying we lost morality in our leaders f our leaders have lost morality you know that will be reflected in the reactions much our people. when ever kid are going to school, pulling god from every portion of our society and laws that the democrats are passing, you know, we're, this mass abortions and all of these things are going, hurting the core of our nation. our kids are fatherless. the folks that you see out there that are committing the crimes that are doing these things are fatherless. they're fatherless because we passed laws for the last two decades that have removed the fathers from our homes. we got to stand against this as a nation. this is just not right. the morality of america is being

tested right now. november 3rd of 2020, it is going to tell the world a lot. will we stand for morality or continue to live in this chaos? elizabeth: okay. jack brewer, great to have you on, sir, come back soon. good to see you. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: next up, trump 2020 campaign senior advisor lara trump on the growing debate, are the democrats and the media simply explaining away the violent riots because they feel it may hurt, may hurt the democrats in november? stay with us

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♪ elizabeth: welcome back to this controversy, that democrats and the media are rationalizing, downplaying, explaining away the violent rioting. democrat representative jayapal on cnn downplaying the mob

violence, quote, some protesters in some building in portland when thousands shown up nightly with knives, sledgehammers, power tools. they have blinded officers with lasers. a rioter threw a molotov cocktail at the federal courthouse there lighting it on fire. this, cnn anchor, jake tapper, demanding republican jim jordan apologized. he said cnn reporters were depicted in unfair way in republican video shown at attorney general william barr's hearing yesterday. the video showed media calling protests peaceful. we'll show you elements that dispute what jake tapper is saying. welcome trump 2020 campaign senior advisor lara trump to the show. great to see you to have you on. your reaction? >> it is really kind of sad the media what was concerned with the video itself than what was in the video. what you see in the video is the horrific violence, the looting, the arson, that we have seen

seen in some of our great american cities. i heard jack brewer, your previous guest, he was spot on with everything. democrat mayors are letting people of their cities down. we needed to see that video from jim. thank goodness somebody is talking about it. a lot of the media would like to gloss over it and say these r peaceful protesters. these are not peaceful protesters and i'm very happy we're finally talking about this and getting the facts out there to the american people. elizabeth: let's show the video that played in yesterday's hearings, that cn ntaper took offense with. watch it. >> mostly a protest. it is not, it is not generally speaking unruly. >> peaceful protesters. >> peaceful demonstrators. >> peaceful protesters? >> peaceful protesters. >> peaceful protesters.

>> peace fell protests and demonstrations. elizabeth: they're not, so here's the argument, is that they're starting out peaceful and then morph into riots but that is kind of splitting hairs. the video speaks for itself. two reporters in the video, you know standing in front of buildings on fire. go ahead, lara. >> yeah, i mean, it is almost shocking they can stand there with a straight face and actually lie to the american people about what they're witnessing directly behind them, liz, to your point! you can see buildings on fire, and total chaos happening yet you have reporters saying, well these are mostly peaceful protests. what is very clearly happening, it is being exposed, every single day, that by and large the mainstream media is the marketing arm for the democrat party. these democrat mayors and governors, in some of our great american cities and states across this country have not

done their jobs. they have not protected their citizens. they have not protected businesses within their area. it is really sad to see but this is all a political tool for them. they are trying to, oh, look over here. there is nothing to see here. that is not right. what we need to do, we need to fix what is happening in these cities. people are leaving, liz, the cities. i live in new york, liz. can't tell you friends of mine that left new york and are never coming back. nobody wants to live like this. they want to know we're safe and live in a peaceful environment. unfortunately you don't see that happening out there. elizabeth: you know, it was cnn's don lemon saying it was peaceful. chris cuomo repeatedly said they are peaceful protests. chris cuomo said, please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful when it says that in the first amendment. show the viewers what rioters are bringing to the portland protest and rioting as we noted before. it is sledgehammers.

also tasers. it is also lasers and more. show the viewer what they're bringing, baseball bats to the riots. do peaceful profess protesters, destroy businesses, injure 188 officers, attack civilians and bomb and burn down federal courthouses and buildings? are democrats so rattled that the riots will hurt joe biden's chance of winning they're denying the rioting? 18 people have been killed in rioting. your take. >> they are denying it. you heard from jerry nadler, if anybody saw the video, saying antifa is a myth. that is not real. antifa is the reason so many of our great cities are burning. so much chaos is happening. the violence is happening. and whenever you have major figures in american politics saying that these people don't exist, that is a real problem and i think they know that what people are catching on to is

that if joe biden got elected, this would not just be limited to the democrat cities. this would be all over the united states of america because he is very clearly said that he would like to take away funding from our police forces in this country. we know he is for open borders. so you're going to have open borders, a lawless society and no police officers to keep the peace in joe biden's america. they know that people are catching on to that. so they're trying to deny the whole thing and get you to look the other way. elizabeth: lara trump, thanks for joining us. great to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up, the debate that is now unfolding. what was the reason that critics say the democrats repeatedly shut down attorney general william barr? at that brutal hearing yesterday in capitol hill? republican strategist ford o'connell, he has his thoughts on this you will want to hear it. that's next. stock slices.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. a growing number of critics the reason why democrats repeatedly shut down attorney general william barr on the hearing on capitol hill because he is attempting to hold people accountable under the trump, excuse me under the obama administration in the trump-russia probe and the probe into general michael flynn. welcome in republican strategist, ford o'connell. ford, what are your thoughts? >> look, i think tuesday's hearing was an absolute disgrace but look, we know why the democrats were throwing tantrums at attorney general william barr. he is, no secret in washington, not only does he follow the rule of law and not play their games but they don't want him to get to the bottom of the trump russia hoax. that is the bottom line. elizabeth: florida democrat debbie powell went to far as to

delay the release of john durham's criminal probe of the abuses until after the election. a.g. barr said no. your thoughts on that? >> she knows if the durham report comes out, it will not only damage obama's legacy, it will hurt the democratic brand. why she is so forceful with the ag, when he tried to explain why, she shut him down. the democrats are fearful. they don't want it to come down until after the election. they hope biden wins and it never comes out and completely brushed under the rug. elizabeth: as we reported republican jim jordan said yesterday at the hearing you can almost track to the day when democrats started attacking a.g. barr. it is when a.g. barr publicly said over a year ago the obama administration was spying on the trump team. watch the democrats shut down attorney general william barr. >> i gave instructions as to what -- >> reclaiming my time. >> i'm answering your question. >> you have to let him answer.

>> reclaiming my time. >> gentleman's time expired. >> restore my time because this witness is speaking over my time. >> does it have to be quibbling over -- >> reclaiming my time. you answered the question. >> cree laming my time without political bias. reclaiming my time, mr. attorney general. reclaiming my time. mr. barr. >> substances. >> attorney general, reclaiming my time. >> when people resist law enforcement they're not peaceful. >> reclaiming my time. i'm surprised at your lack of respect. >> it is a, not a self-defining term. >> two minutes, sir. >> they recognize -- this is hearing. i thought i was one supposed to be heard? elizabeth: they clearly, they clearly wouldn't let him answer and testify. you know, seemed like the democrats are testifying, not a.g. barr. ford, here is the other thing, former advisor valerie jarrett told our bartiromo quote, let's move on from the investigation

into the trump russia prone. i can't tell all of the reasons why james comey went forward with it but that was nearly four years ago. why are we still talking about this? that is coming out now too. your reaction to that? >> that is exactly right. watch valerie jarrett. they want this swept under the rug. as congressman jordan said, they not only spied on the trump campaign but they intentionally harmed the peaceful transfer of power in an effort to undermine the trump administration without a legal basis for doing so. what i find so comical here, for three years, the media, democrats screamed russia, russia, now we're getting to the bottom of it and they don't want to find out? i think a lot of people if they knew the truth would be mystified by the whole ordeal and wouldn't want it to happen again irrespective of political party. elizabeth: there is separate probe by u.s. attorney john bash on unmasking of attorney general michael flynn separate from the durham probe.

ford, come back soon. >> you got it, emac. take care. elizabeth: you too. coming up the battle over the 2020 vote now heating up. we have a new front. this one over democrats wanting to count illegal immigrants in a way that republicans say could rig elections. house oversight ranking member james comer joins us next. he is leading the counterattack against that. i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath,

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♪. elizabeth: to this new battle. the president and republicans pushing back on democrats. the argument is that democrats are trying to rig elections, republicans say, rig the vote in bigger way than the one over alleged voter fraud and mail-in ballots. democrats in states like california in a big court fight to count illegal immigrants. california suing trump administration to block an order that would stop that. we have got california attorney general and cities of long beach, los angeles, suing back against, suing the administration over this fight. by the way, house oversight, they called an emergency meeting over this fight. kentucky's james comer, ranking republican on house oversight he joins us now. great to have you on the show. can you tell us what is going on here? >> well the democrats are

fighting to try to count illegals in the census for the purpose of congressional apportionment. it is estimated that there are between 10 and 20 million undocumented people residing in america right now. the democrats want them to vote. we suspect that they have been voting, especially in states like california but they have been kind of sneaky about it. now they're in the forefront. every tax paying, law-abiding american citizen understands if you count undocumented americans, undocumented people living in the united states for the purpose of congressional apportionment. law-abiding citizens votes and representation in congress will be diluted and that is not fair. elizabeth: the democrats lost the argument in california. democrats would lose at least one house seat and electoral college vote.

the constitution says that, quote, persons residing in the states should be counted every 10 years. it doesn't say citizens. that is the argument, it says persons. why illegal immigrants are persons. why they should be counted. reaction to that. >> they will be counted. the certain sus does clearly state that every person residing in the united states should be counted for purpose of the census. and we're going to count every single person that is living in the united states, every man, woman and child. however, for congressional reapportionment, when you look at the fact that california has by all estimates at least 2.2 million illegals living in the state of california, that is three congressional seats. that is three electoral votes, that california gets rewarded because they're break the law. it is not fair to states like kentucky or alabama or states like illinois that are probably in danger of losing a

congressional seat. so the democrats once again after yesterday trying to silence attorney general barr, for trying to hold people accountable for violations of the fisa process. today they go all-in in five hour hearing trying to make sure that illegals can be counted for congressional reapportionment. i don't think the founding fathers ever intended that. they would never envision the united states would have this many people residing in our country illegally. elizabeth: so it is an interesting point. alabama and other states would get hurt. it is sort of you know, equal protection under the law fight, that if you count all of these illegals for apportionment, for representation that hurts representation of other states that don't have this large population base in there, right? >> exactly. you're exactly right. it punishes states that are doing things the right way, that are abiding by the law. states like california who have

clearly been breaking the law and harboring illegals for years and years, they're going to be rewarded with more congressional seats. california already has the most number of congressional seats. people ask me all the time, how does nancy pelosi get elected speaker of the house? because california has over 50 representatives in the u.s. house. pause of because of counting massive illegal population will have even more. it is unfair to the states that do things right. it is just another reason why some americans are fed up. that is why they voted for donald trump four years ago and i think he will overperform in the polls in november. elizabeth: congressman, come back soon. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald. you're watching the earning edit. that does it for us. we watch you come back tomorrow

night and have a good evening. ♪. lou: good evening, everybody. the ceo's of tech giants, amazon, facebook, apple and google today, testifying before a house judiciary subcommittee. lawmakers questioning four of the world's richest men in their virtual hearing about their massive companies that dominate technology and social media. the tech titans are worth about $200 billion, looking every bit the part of avaricious and voracious masters of the universe looking to