course of history forever. order it at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com. thanks for joining us. good evening from sussex. ♪. president trump: anything else >> everything else that can happen, years, years? or you never even know who won the election? you're serving out hundreds of millions of universal mail-in ballots. hundreds of millions. where are they going? who are they being sent to? it's common sense. you don't have to know anything about politics. and the democrats know this. the democrats know this, steve. so i want to see, i want an election and a result much, much more than you. i think we're doing very well. we havee the same fake polls, bt with we have real polls. we're doing very well. i just left texas, and biden

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voters. so we're inrs favor of absentee, but it's much different than millions of people. in california they go to send out tens of millions of voting tomorrows. well, where are they going to go? you read where postmen are in big trouble now, you read where city councils are in big trouble now. voter fraud all over the ballots. so, no, i want to get -- i want to be standing, hopefully hand held high, big victory, because we're doing things with our country that i think nobody else could have done. our country is, despite this pandemic which is devastating the rest of the world, by the way, devastating, one of the articles that came out was the world's covid resurgence. this is "the wall street journal" ed editorial. the main editorial yesterday in the "wall street journal." i don't't always agree with the, but they have the world's covid resurgence. countries hailed as models to

see andhe then they go, the virs returns at a level like it's never -- they haven't even seen. we've been giving praise to certainrt countries, and the vis has now come to them like, like the first time. but it's very interesting, and it talks about many countries where everybody was holding them up and saying what a great job they did. well, it's just one of those things. didn't work out so well. so we want to have an election. i'd love to see voter id. but this is the opposite of voter id. the democrats love it, the republicans hate out. we -- republicans hate it. we all agree that absentee is good. you know, t we talk about russi, russia, russia. for two and a half years and then they found nothing, and there was nothing. but they talk russia, russia, russia, they talk china, they talk allay of these countries. they say they get involved in our elections. this is easy.

you can forge ballots. this is much easier for foreign countries. go ahead, steve. >> -- probably a nonstarter, wouldn't you agree to that? >> i just feel i want to delay. i want to have the election. but i also don't want to have to wait for three months and then find out that the ballots are all missing and the election doesn't mean anything. that'sll what's going to happen, steve. that's common sense. and everyone knows w out. smart people know it. stupid people may not know it. and some people don't want to talk about it, but they know it. and, no, we want to have an election where people actually go and what's your name, my name is so and so, you sign the book like i've been doing for jeer years. it's very, very unfair to our country. if they do this, our country will be a laughing stock. how many ballots are they

sending to california? 28 million or some massive number. other states are sending out millions and millions of ballots? they had news organizations experimenting. and, look, read the story in "the washington post" about the mail-in voting. i'm very surprised to see that story, frankly, from them. the story's a disaster. so we're asking for a lot of trouble. and, no, do i want to see a date change? no. but i don't want to see a crooked election. this election will be the most rigged election in history, if that happens. >> mr. president, you said you don't want to see a delay in the election, but then it looks like the process of these mail-in ballots is going to continue -- >> well, we have many court cases, john with. we have one that's been filed for a while now in western pennsylvania, as an example. >> i'm just wondering -- we give tremendous examples, numbers of examples of all the fraud and all of the things that

have take taken place with respt to --ma >> just wondering, is the net effect of what you tweeted this morning and what you're talking about now to cast doubt on the results of -- >> well, it's had an interesting impact. i didn't know it was going to bo the impact it had. what people are now looking at is am iut right, but not me, are all these stories right about the fact that these elections will be fraudulent, they'll be fakes, they'll be rigged. and everyone's looking at it. and a lot of people are saying, you know, that probably will happen. please, jennifer. >> but you break the log jam in congress -- [inaudible] what do you plan toncap put on e table tonight? >> it's a great question. i can't tell you though because that wouldn't be very smart from a negotiating standpoint. but we'll be putting certain things on thee table. we want to get money on the -- we want to get money to people, it's not their fault what

happened. the fact people don't like sayingng it, they know it's tru, it's china's fault, okay? it's not their fault. it's nots the workers who lost their job, it's china's fault. and that'sat the way it is. >> mr. president, yesterday -- [inaudible]] the governor of oregon to remove federal officers -- [inaudible] noticeably absent, are you confident, sir, that the state -- [inaudible] will be able to quell the protests in portland, and if the violence does continue, would you reconsider -- >> so our people, homeland security is have done a fantastic job. they went to oregon a little more than a week ago. the place was a mess. the city, portland, was just a disaster. you see it, and a lot of people weren't reporting it right. they tried to pretend it was a protest as opposed to anarchists

and agitators. you understand what i'm saying. it's a mess. they went there a short while ago, and they saved a federal courthouse that cost hundreds of millions of dollars, and they put a ring around the courthouse, and they saved it. but the group that's there is basically meant to be save buildings, and they were very strong, very powerful, and they didn't come out too often out of this cocoon in order to save these very expensive, value basketball psychologically important buildings, right? like courthouses. the governor and the mayor, we've been dealing with them, and we think they don't know what they're doing. because this should not have been going on for 60 days. it's not our job, unless in case of emergency which i consider now to be an emergency, it's not our job to go in and clean out the cities. that's supposed to be done by local law enforcement are. yesterday the governor worked a deal where they'll do it, they'll stand by, they'll do it,

and that's good. she didn't report it that way. what she reported was totally different. she said i think trump wants to take over the country. it's crazy. so what happened is our people are staying this to see whether can do it today and tomorrow. and if they don't do it, we will send in the national guard, and we'll take care of it. we're telling right now these protesters -- and many should be arrested. because these are professional agitators, these are professional anarchists. these are people that hate our country. we're telling them right now that we're coming in very soon, the national guard. a lot of people, a lot of very tough people. and these are not just people that have to go to the courthouse and save it, these are people that are allowed to go forward and do what they have to do. and ies think that makes the mayor's's job and the job a lot easier. so they're working today and probably tomorrow to clean out this beehive of terrorists. and if they do it, i'm going to

be very happy. slowly we can start to leave the city. if they don't do it, we'll be sending in the national guard. please. >> given what's happening with major league baseball and now today, the rutgers football tea, how can you assure people that schools will be safe to reopen? >> so can you assure anybody of anything?t i do say again, young people are almost immune to this disease. the younger the better. i guess they're stronger. they're stronger. they haver. a stronger immune system. it's an incredible thing. nobody's ever seen this before. various types of flu will hurt young people more than older people. but young people are almost immune. if you. look at the percentage, it's a tiny percent of 1%. it's a tiny percent of 1%. so we have to have our schools open. we have to protect our teachers. we have to protect our elderly, but we do have to have our schools open. [inaudible conversations]

>> mr. president? >> yeah, please, go ahead. >> mr. president, a week ago you said you're in the process of developing a strategy that's going to be very powerful involving the coronavirus. where is that strategy? >> oh, i think you're seeing it, and i think you will see it x. one of the things that we've fdone that we're get -- it hasnt been utilized yet, but we're all set to march when it comes to the vaccine. we have great therapeutics that aree testing very well, if we haveed great vaccines from up e credible companies, johnson and johnson and pfizer and merck, and all of these great companies, and they're doing very well. expect delivery system is all set. logistically, we have a general that's all he does is deliver things, whether it's soldiers or other items. i think you going to see something that's going to be spectacular. thee fda has approved things ata rate that's a tiny fraction of what it would take during another administration, let's say. we are way ahead on vaccines, way ahead on therapeutics, and

when we have it, we're all set up with our platforms to deliver themem very, very quickly. the vaccines are doing well, the therapeutics are doing well, and we're all set to deliver them as soon as we have them x that's going toer to be very soon. thank you very much. [inaudible conversations] >> president trump just wrapping a news conference covering topics from the coronavirus to the violence in portland and amid the blowback for the president asking if the u.s. should delay the election over the potential for mail-in voter fraud. that, of course, rattling the markets and politicians on both sides of the aisle today. that blowback pebbly overshadowing -- potentially overshadowing the coree you isse that, yes, there has been problems with mail-in ballots in the past. good evening, i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald tonight, this is "the evening edit."

we are going the welcome former acting attorneyto general matthw whitaker. matthew, you were listening. i want to get your reaction to that start ising with this notion is, is it possible for the president to at least float this idea? congress would have to make the ultimate decision if we were going to delay the election, but he's sort of putting it out there as raw meat. >> yeah. and it's good to be with you tonight, jackie. what i know about this issue is that the president continues to be concerned and should be concernedd about what is happening in some states where they are sending out voter ballots without people requesting those ballots. and we saw this in the primary in nevada where the state of nevada sent a ballot to every registered voter. many people had moved, and these ballotsts piled up in mailboxesn apartment buildings especially. think these are the concerns, if we just wholesale send out voting ballots, it could be rife with fraud, and we could not maybe be able to trust the results.

jackie: and that would be a difficult position to be in because you might not get results for several months, as he mentioned here tonight, and there would be a lot of confusion. it certainly might make the situation worse. joe bideno said in the past, he said it to donors, the president's going to do anything he can do here to try to cause problems or at least cast some doubt on this election. so you're going to have one side of the aisle saying that. >> yeah, but you also -- joe biden also is trying to find any way to get his base enthusiastic about his candidacy, and i think that's the big challenge in painting the president as the bogeyman instead of addressing jet mate concerns -- legitimate concerns about voter fraud. and we can look again in other places. they still haven't counted all the absentee votes in, i think, at least one congressional seat in newal york. i mean, there's a lot of examples where this, you know, an idea that somehow we send ballots to everyone or everyone

votes byot mail could cause complete and utter chaos in our voting system v in the fall. jackie: and it's n not just potentially what could happen here.he a.g. bill barr has floated the idea that if you have mail-in ballots on a mass scale, you potentially could be leaving the election open to, you know, intrusion from other countries. and this is a problem that we've been focused on for quite some time. >> no, you're right. and bill barr has spoke about this at his hearing recently, and fbi director chris wray recently said that china is an ascendant threat to our elections x certainly they have the capabilities to reproduce absentee ballots and get those mailed in. i mean, i think there's a lot of questions that many of the state, secretaries of state expect local voting -- and the iclocal voting officials need to answer as to how they're going to protect the ballot from not only voter fraud, but also foreign interference. jack one more question on this nbefore we move on, you had jery

nadler tweeting today the president doesn't have the authority to do this, you had representative zoe lofgren from california saying americans have voted in the civil war, in the shadow of world wars, the great depression, we will vote this november. your thoughts. >>s. yeah, i fully expect that e election will be in november and that a lot of people, including myself, will go to their voting location and vote. i mean, i think that it is, it is -- expect president said is legitimate absentee voting is, there's no problem with that. it is this idea of sort of a complete mail-in vote where people are sent ballots, often times without requesting them as you saw in nevada in the primary. i think that's what he's concerned about, and i think there should be a lot of concern about that. jackie: all: right, with the tie i have left with you, i want to switch gears. seattle activists bring protests to officials' homes like here in new york the nypd commissioner,

dermot shea, and democratic mayor calling for federal law enforcement to clear out of their cities even as the riots are escalating. watch this. >> people to come out and start taking people off the streets, shovingm them into unmarked vehicles, failingng to identify themselves. this is not how things are done in america. this is more like the police state in terms of the tactics. they weren't wanted here, we didn't invite them here. >> we don't need the help that the president's offering and, in fact, i i think the president's actions have directly escalated and are responsible for what happened. >> these are also, as we understand it, not what we've i seen on the streets of portland, rye got-clad -- riot-clad federal officers who are playing police in the streets. if there was anything that happened like that, we would be making sure that we did everything possible to stop that in its tracks.

jackie: okay. so they'rere saying they don't need the help, but this reality they do need the help because they don't have the situation under control. and, actually, acting homeland security secretary chad wolf said is, with respect to portland, the federal f authorities are not going to leave until we are sure the local authorities can handle this. >> yeah, and that's the reason the federal assets are in portland right now, because the local police have been unwilling to, you know, control this crowd and make sure that it does assemble peaceably and doesn't try to take over the courthouse and burn it to the ground, as some of them have said. i mean, i think this is one of sthe things, the people of portland, the people of seattle, the people across the country want law and order. they want to be safe in their own homes and communities, and they don't want violent protesters and mobs of people overrunning public buildings. i think it's common sense. we see with our own eyes what's happening in some of these cities, and these politicians

are somehow playing to a fringe wing of their party for some reason,om i guess because it's n election year. you know, fundamentally, i think people want peace and security and freedom, and those are the tenants that our -- tenets that our country was founded on, and that's what thehe president's trying to restore in our communities. jackie: donald trump jr. wrote a column talking about the fact that joe biden wouldn't reduce rioting and crime, and when you see the pictures of how democraticic mayors are handling things in their city, you have to think to yourself, maybe he's right? >> you're right. bill barr during that hearing, one on the left condemned the major violence we're seeing in our cities or tried to come up with a solution to solve it. jackie: matthew whitaker, thank you so much. >> thank you, jackie, good to be with you. jackie: coming up, devin nuñes on a new development in the fight over dismissing the criminalal case against former

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adviser, michael flynn. an appeals court will reconsider the order to drop the criminal case against flynn. so what happens next here? let's talk about it more with rankingtelligence member california republican devin nuñes. great to see you. want to get straight to it, because a lot of folks are looking at this decision as sort of a win for judge sullivan who does not want to allow the department of justice to drop the case here. >> yeah, look, we're really in uncharted territories, i and you said it exactly right and i'll put it a different way, this is a never-ending story. i think i what they're trying to do here, they know this has never been done, the judges know this has never been done, but this is a court that's overwhelmingly e democrat. what they're trying to do stall and stall and stall. and so i think a couple things could intercede here. one could be that durham or another u.s. attorney comes up with indictments. the second thing is that there could be more evidence that could show up. you may recall with, it was

the house republicans who first learned that the agents didn't believe that flynn was lying. and that's evidence that we had in early 2017. not to mention all the problems with the mule or team. the mueller team's being investigated, the flynn case is being investigated, it's been dismissed by the department of justice. no american should be treated like this, especially a war hero, a war hero, one of our nation's greatest generals that we've had in this cub who was set -- in this country who was set up and framed by his own government working with the democratic party. jackie: in addition to what you mentioned, we even have the e-mails from susan rice that talk aboutt conversations that went on with president obama and joe biden present, that they knew exactly what was happening here, and they wanted to proceed even though they knew there really was no case against mr. flynn. >> yeah, it's rather frightening. i>>he think all americans need o understand those dates. those dates are really key. general flynn's the incoming

national security adviser, they already have him under investigation in 2016 for a totally, an investigation that was, you know, with no predicate whatsoever. we know it was a set-up by the democratic party supposedly getting information if russians that they were feeding into the fb irk. we knew the fbi cops were corrupt. then speed up past the election, ii think that was kind of a diry trick that they were trying to play during the october time frame before the 2016 election. then comes the date that you were mentioning. that date'ss a critical date because that's clearly where obama and biden are directly involved, and it comes the day after the fbi themselves, even the dirty cops who were involved in this thing, had tried to dismiss and get rid of this case and drop the case, the counterintelligence case, against general flynn. so somehow i think obama and biden have some explaining to do, and d we'll see if biden evr comes occupant of his basement to actually answer these

questions. jack jack right. expect public would certainly need to hear about that. you talk about additional evidence, so i want to discuss the text from the former fbi e director, andrew mccabe, the doj has agreed to release them. what do you think it's going to show us? that he leaked sensitive information and that he misled the investigators. >>oo look, we have long been missing a lot of text messages. we had to fight, as republicans we hadep to fight over and over and over again to get text messages. don'tt forget, a bunch of text messages actually disappeared. the inspector general horowitz was able to find some of them, but till there's a lot -- there's still there's a lot that are not out there. the republicans in the house have have had an ongoing investigation. we have two senators having an investigation in the senate. why are these texts not being provided to congress so that the public can know before this election? i think time is critical. jackie: all right.

let's broaden this out because you brought up john durham, and everybody is waiting on pins and needles to see what his information -- his investigation finds. attorney general barr said we could have results before the interis over. -- summer is over. en you think that will help further the ball? forget the fact that the mueller report cost taxpayers $38 million. >> well, let me bring you back to just a couple days ago to right here in the capitol, you had the attorney general testifying where democrats continued to just attack, attack, attack and not let him answer questions. why was that happening? that was happening a because they're trying to smear the attorney general because theyen are scared and worried with about what durham is going to uncover. look, this is not hard to figure out. house republicans have made 14 criminal referrals. that mean we have enough ed --

enough evidence that have several, several people involved in these referrals. so there's ample evidence, not to mention what may come with what durham may be able to dig up like the text messages, you mentioned, congress never threceived. jackie:: okay, attorney general william barr's testimony before congress, i want everybody to watchnt this. >> i gave instructions as to what -- >> reclaiming my time -- >> yes, i'm answering -- >> well, you've got to let him hasn't. >> reclaiming few time -- [inaudible conversations] >> will you restore my time because -- >> does it have have to -- >> reclaiming my time, he answered the question -- >> he said he -- >>st reclaiming my time without mpolitical bias, and this -- >> [inaudible] >> reclaiming my time, mr. barr. >> attorney general, reclaiming my time. >> when people resist law enforcement, they're not peaceful. >> reclaiming my time. i'm surprised at your lack of

respect. >> it's not a self-defining -- >> i've only got two minutes, sir. >> that they recognize -- >> mr. barr. >> yeah, but this is a hearing, i thought i was the one that was supposed to be heard. >> i just wanted to play that, congressman knew yesterday, because it shows everybody exactly what happened on the hill the other day. and i want to ask you one further question because you were on with maria bartiromo, and you were talking about the steele dossier and the sources used to furnish that dossier. one of the sources was not a russian national, he was somebody that lived here and worked very closely with the brookings institute which happens to be a left-wing think tank. >> yeah. that's -- so, you know, like we started this interview talking about the never ending story. this is a whole new chapter. we have long suspected that the brookings institute was heavily involved in that. why did we suspect that? because we knew the president at the time was disseminating the dossier. we had that, we had evidence people who had told us that on the record. also they had stood up this

propaganda machine that was constantly smearing myself and my colleagues, now they're on to attorney generalyo barr, so this was kind of the propaganda arm that was stood up, and they were always defending the dirty cops. it struck us as rather odd. so taking those two pieces of information, add on to it the fact f that we were always heado believe that there were three russians we were looking for supposedly, and the main source supposedly wasth this russian whose life was in danger. we had people who testified to congress that that was the case, that his life was in danger. well, it ends up he was just living right a couple miles away from where i stand right now. he's just a political hack. he worked at a left-wing think tank. there's only -- russia he was born there, and i assume that he can speak russian. but other than that, he's just another swamp creature living here in the swamp that was actually working for christopher steele. christopher steele was working forr who? through a couple cutouts?

the democratic national committee and the hillary clinton campaign. jackie: congressman nuñes, with that we'll say thank you so much foror your time tonight. thank you for helping us parse through this. great to see you. >>u. thanks for having me. jackie: all right. coming up, secretary of state mike pompeo hinting about more sanctions against china during a hearing on capitol hill. jijim banks from house armed services committee, he joins us on this. ♪ ♪ where are you?! honey, did you hear about these new geico savings? mom? you'll get an extra 15% on top of what geico could already save you.

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♪ ♪ >> helping to lead an international awakening to the threat of the ccp. .we closed our consulate in houston because it was a den of spies. we're the toughest administration ever on russia. jackie: that was secretary of state mike pompeo testifying in front of the senate foreign relations committee on the trump administration's efforts to

curtail espy e imagine the and interference from china and russia. so what steps are being taken to keep us safe, what are these threats from foreign countries, what do they mean for our national security? joining me now, indiana congressman jim banks. he's on the armed services committee and currently serves in the navy reserves. he joins me now. great to see you tonight. i want tore start with china first, adding to the list of problems a aside from the theft of intellectualle property, asie from the problems that we have with respect to trade relations, now you add the coronavirus pandemic, the fact that china actively did not act to close etc. boarder and try to contain it or share information about the pandemicav with us that could he helped here in the united states, you've got the events in the consulate in houston the other day ass well, i mean, chia just continues to snowball as a problem here, expect democrats don't necessarily want to acknowledge it. >> you've summed it up quite well. it's even worse than that.

the fact that china refused the cdc and the w.h.o. from coming in way back in january to study the coronavirus, studies showed that could have prevented over 90% of the cases expect spread of covid-19. they should be held accountable. and secretary pompeo reminded us again today that this administration is the first administration of my lifetime to be tough on china, reflecting what the american people are demanding. today "the wall street journal" published a pew research poll that showed that 73% of americans hold an unfavorable view of china and expect their leaders from the president to the congress all the way down to do more to hold them accountable. right now i can tell you there's only one party that's serious about doing it, and it's the republicans. jackie: it's so interesting, congressman banks, i'm going to stay on this point here, nobody has done this before. it's unprecedented, the stance that president trumpre has taken with china, and it's long overdue. but you l look back to the obama administration, and you see not

only didn't they do anything, but a lot ofng the problems were mounting and adding up over time. and vice president joe biden now says, well, i'm going to be tough on china. i mean, how could you possibly believe him? >> yeah, talk is cheap because sthe record reflects something very different. the obama administration turned a blind eye to the economic and military threat that china has become. this is nothing new. it's been going on for nearly 40 years of malign activities on the part of the chinese that are very much against the interests of the united states of america. but president trump ran as a candidate on being tough on chchina, and he's kept his word. probably the most significant part of his record over four years is that he changed the world conversation about what we do about china. in fact, secretary pompeo last week gave what i believe is the most historic speech of the last four years by any secretary of state in this administration at the richard nixon library,

coincidentally, where secretary pompeo talked about rallying the free world to develop a coalition to fight back against the a activities of the chinese. secretary pompeo, president trump are serious about it, and it's why republicans on capitol hill are serious about it too. jackie: and i think there's more and more ammunition for that even amongst other international powers that haven't stepped up just yet. yi look at this from not just te politics back and forth, but the economic ties that we have with china, the trade war we were dealing with, the stock market. how much we needed them, but we started to diversify supply chains and do things differently, and our businesses are rebounding x. yet at the same time china really needs if dius. foreign investment from the united states to raise capital for a lot of its companies. aiit seems like they would be ia position to be worse off at this time than we would be. so those who worry sort of -- about the hitting back or retaliation have to remember

that they've got a stake in this too. >> that's exactly right. remember, we elected president trump to begin with because he's the best negotiator that we've ever had in the white house, and when he came to his job, he talked about negotiating better trade deals with china. he did that with the phase one deal which at this point has been long forgotten. i don't have to tell farmers in northeast indiana or manufacturing businesses about thes struggles with china becaue they've seen it firsthand. they've seen china steal their intellectual property, the farmers have seen china steal their,st their genetics and make it harder for them to make a profit as well, and they expect our politicians of both parties from all levels of government to do something about this. that's why in the house we created the china task force. and what was fascinating about the china task force is that democrats initially agreed to join us in this effort -- jackie: they did? >> -- to study the chinese threat, and then they backed out at the last minute. it's truly sadad to me and all f

my a constituents as well. jackie: and it certainly says a lot. congressman, thank you for your time tonight. we hope to see you back on the show soon. >> you got it, thank you. jackie: coming up later in the show, media research center president and founder breath bozell on the tech backlash over perceived anti-conservative bias. >> i'll just cut to the chase, big tech's out to get conservatives. that's not a suspicion, that's not a hunch, that's a fact. ♪ d etfs for any amount you choose instead of buying by the share. all with no commissions. stocks by the slice from fidelity. get your slice today.

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it sees fit, or is this just another example of anti-conservative bias on social media? let's ask the president and founder e of the media research council, brent bozell. great to have you with us tonight, brent. you had thatng hearing on the hill, apple, google, amazon and facebook, twitter wasn't there, but let's start with that question first: are these social media companies just getting outright out of hand with respect to how they're censoring con tenter? >> jackie, they have every right as private companies to censor whoever theyy wish. however, they don't have a right to special protection as an object it platform where they can't be held legally liable. and secondly, they don't have the right to go before congress and say things under oath, commit perjury and say right to congress that they had no, they had no biases when on a daily basis they are censoring can conservatives every single day.

this is one being censored. i add had dinner with four senates last night, and i pointedded out to them if they can censor the president of the united states and get away with it, they can censor anyone they would like to, and it's what they're doing. jackie: i want to talk to you about facebook per se, because mark zuckerberg was on the hill yesterday, you know, they were alle testifying virtually, and e was saying basically e that they don't interfere in any way, that there'ss no bias here. google said we're not going to interfere in the election. we're not doing anything to swing it either way, yet so many people believe that they are. what can the government do about this? i mean, part of going on the hill yesterday starting to investigate and look at, you know, antitrust, suits, possibly saying they're too powerful or that they have monopolies. but you had all four of these companies there, and they're all different types of companies. how do you even break this apart

and try to start to take some action? ?>> well, i would suggest to you that silicon valley has as much powers or more power than any of the other three branches of the federal government today. why in because there's a system of checks and balances on the judiciary, on the legislative and on the executive. there's no checks and balances on silicon valley. thesele are massive, these are e biggest corporations in the world, in history. e they have power world wild, tand they're deciding -- worldwide, and they're deciding what is and isn't acceptable speech. they're deciding that if you're the ayatollah that mainny calling for israel 's decimation, that's okay because it's commentary. but if you're the president of the united states calling for law and order in the united states, you're censored because i somehow you're abusive. this is out of control, they

have to be held accountable. section 230 of the communication act gives them the protection that says they won't be held liable for what they say. you've got to take that protection away from them. they've got to be held liable just like fox news is. fox can't get away with saying the kind of stuff they're saying, and yet they're protected but fox is liable. jackie: what's so interesting also as this is going on, they're also raking in profits. we've been in the midst of a pandemic. we had a first quarter estimate -- i'm sorry, first estimate for second quarter gdp that the economy contracted more than 30%, the worst since the great depression. at the same time, you've got the big companies' stock prices are storing, earnings are soaring, i mean, they're essentially getting paidng to do this. >> they're making a fortune, and is so long as there's competition, i i think that woud be a wonderful thing. there's just a little problem is there can't be competition. these are behemoths. these are monster corporations.

apple has a trillion dollars in cash. how are you going to compete with that in how are you going to competeam with amazon or facebook? you can't. so you've got to do something. jackie: it's really tough. brent, thank you so much for your insight tonight. great to see you. all right, coming up next, the feds busting human smugglers and seizing 82 pound of meth from a capsized boat. we're going to ask the retired i.c.e. director about this, and an escalating fight of denying green cards to immigrants based on their wealth. i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberiberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ in a highly-connected lexus vehicle at the golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2020 es 350 for $359 a month for 36 months.

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♪ ♪ jackie: the coast guard along with u.s. customs and border protection arresting four people near the u.s./mexican maritime boundary in southern california. these individuals were attempting to smuggle ten migrants and over 80 pounds of chris call meth into the united states -- crystal meth. authorities determined there were three women and seven men x they had been paid to be smuggled over the boarer. ronald i have tell low, it's great to see you, listen, we've had these border conversations before, and the democrats have is fought the president every step of the withdraw. and it's all sort of been overshadowed by the coronavirus

pandemic right now, but this story is just another example of what continues to go on down there and why action is needed, correct? >> it is an example. the border can be a dangerous place. i'm grateful to the men and women of the coast guard that made this interdiction. you've got to imagine how hard it is for them to do this job when they do have the support of the president, but they face real danger. they can't stay at home and work their jobs from skype on a computer screen. so i'm grateful to them and the sacrifice that they and their families make. it's an example of how important it is for them to be diligent and good at what they do. jackie: right. they're like health care workers in a way, first responders within this particular situation, and i'm wondering since the pandemic started is have things possibly evens calculated at the border? >> the border's a busy place, it always is. now on top of the nets they face from criminal organizations, they have to worry about their own personal protection.

and so i know they've taken steps to protect themselves, but there's only so much you can do in a setting where you have to put hands on people to arrest them and take them into custody. we're going to pray for them and hope they continue to keep themselves safe while protecting all of us. jackie: you know, i'm wondering how you feel about where we are with construction of the border wall. the president promised that this was something that he would do, and it's certainly a work this progress, but we're not quite there yet. any thoughts or reflections or commentary that you hear on how it's helping or not helping? >> well, i can tell you that the plans we drew up when i was at cbp if watched the construction start before i left there to go to i.c.e., that's a much-needed asset on the border. we'll get more protection, they'll be automobile to do their jobs better. -- able to do their jobs better. with this wall system, cameras, more agents, we'll all be better off for it. i actually talked with chief scott yesterday, and they're getting close to 300 miles

pretty soon. so they're very -- they're working very hard or to get it up quickly, but it's true that there is a long way to go. i'm appreciative that the president found a way to do this without a lot of support from the congress. jackie: i'm wondering how the agents at the border feel about the potential for a joe biden presidency, what they think that will do to the border and their jobs, their wellness and safety as well as immigration in this country. >> well, the rank and file are going to continue to do their job, right in the first story was an example of how they're going to do whatever they have to do to get the work done. biden on the campaign has said in his first hundred days there will be no deportations, and after that only criminals. what does that mean? that's going to cause the crisis that we saw last year, last spring. that's going to bring that right back to our do you have step. if people think they're going to come into this country and not be deported, we're going to have another disaster, another surge.

and i feel bad for the employees that will have to go through that unnecessarily for a third time just because people don't like the laws on the books, and congress is reluctant to change them. jackie: yeah, and part of this conversation goes to this debate that's ongoing about immigration, green cards, being able to show a certain amount of wealth, if you will. it doesn't have to be astronomical, but just that you're going to come to this country and not be a drain on the system. yet there are so many who say you shouldn't have to show anything like that at all. >> it's called public charge within the law. the immigration act for a very long time, definitely. the idea, like you said, if people come it benefits them, but i it also benefits the country in the sense they don't become a burden to the taxpayer. so in february they updated the rulemaking for public charge. as it's happened, special interests took this issue to the supreme court. the supreme court remanded it to the lower district, and i guess questioned in the district court the judge ruled against the administration. but this has happened a lot of times when the trump

administration, attorney general barr have tried to fix things, and i think we'll get it back on track. jackie: ronald, unfortunately, we are out of time, but we'll is have you back soon. i'm jackie deangelis, you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thanks and have a great evening. everyone was heartbroken. >> but what does a boy do with a winery? >> the funniest thing is when i would tell my friends' parents, and they would totally freak out. >> talk about getting your feet wet in a new business. >> drink it. it's grape juice. >> that is really good. >> but how does the family keep it from dying on the vine? >> i didn't know anything about wine except that i like to drink it. >> so what's the heir going to do when he grows up? >> i'm trying to prove that i'm not the owner's kid who just gets handed these things. [ cork pops ] [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ] [ bird caws ]