join us tomorrow night for my exclusive interview with pres the fox business network. reminder, my new book, "the trump century," how our president changed the course of history, available for free order right now at thetrumpcentury.com and amazon.com. thanks for being with us. good night from sussex. ♪ president trump: just continuation of the witch-hunt. it is democrat stuff. they failed with mueller. they failed with everything. they failed with congress. they failed at every stage of the game. this has been going on for 3 1/2 four years, even before i got in this was starting with the mueller deal. mueller started a little bit after but it started with some of the people that you know very well the names. strzok, page and all of the different people, comey. this has been going on. this is continuation of the worst witch-hunt in american

history and there is nothing i know even about it. i had seen that today just a little while ago. i said what is this all about? i know nothing about it. just a continuation of the witch-hunt. didn't work out for congress. didn't work out for mueller. didn't work out for anybody. what they are doing, they send them around all over the country, maybe. it is a terrible thing that they do. it is really a terrible thing. the witch-hunt has gone on long enough, okay? what else? reporter: you mentioned the vaccine development program. could you assure the american people that politics -- around the election will not interfere with -- president trump: absolutely, absolutely. reporter: playing a role how it is distributed in the country. president trump: no it wouldn't have anything to do with. we want to make people better send it to areas that most need it. i think it is good good. jeff? reporter: you said early this

week that dr. birx was taking bail from speaker pelosi. what do you mean by that, describing the facts about the case of the pandemic right now across the country? >> i think we're doing very well and i think that we have done as well as any nation, if you really look, if you look at what is going own with all the flareups on nations that we're talking about. we're much bigger, other than india and china. china is having a massive flare-up right now. india has a tremendous problem. other countries have problems and i notice in the news, in the evening news i never read about that. in india. i don't read about the other countries. you're starting to see other countries are having very big flareups, countries thought they were over it. like we thought we were over it in florida and it comes back. they do come back. i think we're doing very well. i told dr. birx we're doing very well. she was in my office a little

while ago. i have a person that i have great respect for. nancy pelosi has treated her very badly, very badly and she was nasty. i'm referring to the fact i thought they should say the job we've done on ventilators or testing, we tested over 60 million people. no other country is even close to that. we tested 60 million people, with freight, many cases 50% rapid fire, meaning five to 15 to 20 minute tests where you get the result almost immediately. nobody has anything like that. nobody. and, i think we're just doing very well. reporter: just to follow-up quickly -- disagree with her characterization, mr. president? president trump: go ahead please. reporter: thank you, mr. president i want to follow up couple things you said earlier. the first on tiktok and second on coronavirus. on tiktok you said you wanted money for the u.s. treasury. does that mean you expect the chinese companies to pay the u.s. treasury directly or are you talking about?

president trump: microsoft or or chinese, what the price is the united states should get a very large percentage of that price because we're making it possible. without us, i used the expression, like the landlord and the tenant and without the lease, the tenant doesn't have the value. we're sort of in a certain way the lease. we make it possible to have this great success. tiktok is a tremendous success but a big portion of it is in this country. reporter: from the sale, directly. >> would. president trump: would come from the sale, whatever the number is, nobody would think about it but me. that is the way i think. i think it is very fair. we want no security problems with china. it has got to be an american company. it has to be american security. it has to be owned here. we don't want any problems with security, et cetera. and something could come out. i will tell you there is a lot of excitement, not only by microsoft but by other companies in terms of buying it. we'll see what happens.

we want and we think we deserve a big percentage of that price coming to america, coming to the treasury. reporter: on the negotiation on capitol hill you expressed some frustrations that you might take executive action to address -- president trump: might do that, yes. reporter: wonder if you talk about both how you might prevent evictions through executive action. president trump: i can do that if i want. i want to do that. i don't want people to be evicted. when they're evicted, thrown out of their, whatever the place may be, in many cases they go to big shelters and if you talk about pandemic this, is a pandemic. they go to shelters. number one they're thrown out viciously. it is not their fault. it is china's fault. it is not anybody's fault. it is china's fault. if they are thrown out they often times will go to a shelter with tremendous numbers of other people and the virus will spread and we don't want that. reporter: are you considering

collection of payroll taxes? president trump: i can do that also through executive order. we'll be talking about that. we are having a good discussion with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. the problem they want to do bailouts of various democrat-run states and cities. they want a lot of money. they want a trillion dollars for that. they want to do much more than covid related. they want to bail out cities and states in trouble for years with bad management. in all cases democrat-run cities. we don't think that's fair. you understand that. you have heard it before. yeah, please, go ahead. reporter: thanks, mr. president. i wanted to ask but the justice department sending federal agents into cities like chicago as part of operation legend. how exactly do you envision federal forces working alongside police departments. reporter: it is not a mass send but sending very talented people to help them with the drugs and shootings and guns and things that are happening.

it is not like sending in the national guard and stopping it cold. which is an example, a lot of progress has been made in portland, frankly sending in the national guard like we did in minneapolis it stopped it cold. from the time we sent the national guard, they walked down the street it was over in minneapolis. now it may start up again. these are democrat-run cities and states. it hasn't been a pretty picture to watch. we will help chicago. we'll help new york, if they request, they have to request the help but we want to stop the drugs. we want to symptom stop the guns. a lot of chicago is guns, what it is drug-related, and largely gang-related. with i.c.e. we send out thousands of ms-13, thousands and thousands of ms-13 we send them back or some cases we put them in prison, they're too violent. they're truly violent. they're helping out, look what is happening in chicago and some other cities with the shootings and the killings they need help

and we haven't met with resistance i have to be honest with you. i think it is good we haven't. we're only looking to help them. we're only looking to help them. oian? reporter: thank you, mr. president, in our nations 243 year history there has never been a stronger push for mail-in ballots to determine a national election. president trump: yeah. reporter: are you considering a executive order with mail-in ballots and why are people -- [inaudible] president trump: there has never been a push for mail-in ballots and if you look at the new york congressional race which is a disaster, carolyn, it has been a total disaster. they're six weeks into it, they have no clue what's going on. i think i can say right here and now you have to re ruin run that race. nobody knows what is happening with the ballots and lost ballots and fraudulent ballots i

guess. i think you probably have to take the carolyn maloney race to run it over again. how can you do this? this is a small race with literally thousands of people, small thousands of people, it is all messed up. look at patterson, new jersey, it is all messed up. these are small, easy to control. they should be able to do it easy. you talk about like nevada, where last two nights ago they in the darkness of night, without people, without having any meetings of the public, without having anything they approved a ridiculous, you don't have to look at signatures. you don't have to approve anything. you can have double mailings. you can have all sorts of things. nobody ever seen anything like it. it is a disgrace. honestly it's a disgrace. it's a very good question. the mail-in ballots, if you look at some of the small, the small places, the small races, congressional race in new york, should be very easy.

normally that would be announced at 7:00 and there would have been down to the wire and everybody would have loved it. if it was at all complex it would taken extra 45 minutes an hour, they would announce it a little bit later. they have know clue. it is about six weeks ago, they have no clue what is going on. they have lost ballots. there is fraudulent ballots. it's, how are you going to do that for an entire nation? they're using covid to try and get the mail-in ballots. now absentee ballots are great. you have to request them. they go through a process. they get them. universal mail-in ballots turned out to be a disaster. what nevada has been doing last few days you have to look what they have done. you can have two ballots. you can harvest, it is harvesting, you can take thousands of ballots, put them together, dump them down on somebody's desk after a certain period of time. they have something where if you

vote, the vote can count up to seven days later. if the vote is going to count seven days later, that means, if it depend on the one state, like nevada, that would mean simply that you can't have, supposing it is down to that one state. it could be. it's a great state but supposing it is down to that one state? that means you have to wait seven days but they won't have it there. this is something that is so messed up and by the way, i have to say the post office, for many, many years has been you know, run in a fashion that hasn't been great. great workers and everything but they have old equipment, very old equipment. and i don't think the post office is prepared for a thing like this. you have to ask the people at the post office but how can the post office be expected to handle, they have regular mailing. and then now on top of that they have the internet where you have amazon and these companies doing, you know all the buying instead of going to a department store, they go buy through the

mail. so you have massive numbers of purchases now going through the post office, purchases of items and gifts. and that's tremendous strain on the post office. the post office loses a fortune it has been for many, many years, for decade. so now on top of it has this. and the amazons of the world and others they pay very, very little money. they lose money on -- post office loses money, which is ridiculous on every package it delivers on top of that, i'm not just talking about amazon, but all the competitors, if there is such a thing to amazon, there will be but if there is such a thing on top of that, somebody like the governor of nevada come out with this massive plan out of nowhere to take millions of ballots and send them all over the place. you will never know who won that state. it will get messed up just like new york and just like patterson, new jersey and just like many other places. in west virginia they indict ad

adding a man for for doing something bad. you know. that many cases all over the country, there a list of them all over the country, that has to do with universal mail-in. absentee is great, it works n florida, they do absentee, it works. but universal mail-in ballots will be a embarassment to our country. reporter: [inaudible] president trump: i have the right to do it. we'll see what happens. we'll be suing in nevada. that already has been taken care of. we'll probably file something tomorrow. i do want to say we're going to be introducing a tremendous health care plan sometime prior, hopefully prior to the end of the month. it is just about completed now. in addition next month we'll be doing the immigration plan. so we'll be doing that in september. we'll be doing sometime during this month the health care plan. and i think that will be before

the end of the month. i think it will be very impressive to a lot of people. thank you very much. [reporters shouting questions] reporter: mr. president, the postal service released a statement saying it has ample -- elizabeth: president trump is wrapping up a news conference at the white house where he just made news. he did tackle everything from the covid crisis to bungled trump-russia probe and likely the administration will sue the state of nevada tomorrow for passing mail-in balloting. he called the democrat race involving carolyn maloney a total disaster because of mail-in balloting. let's welcome back to the show. corey lewandoski senior trump campaign advisor this is big news. the president saying yes, they will sue, the administration will sue the state of nevada for doing automatic mail-in balloting. what is your response to that? >> well the president's most

important issue going forward is the integrity of the 2020 election cycle. look we know in 2016 there were foreign entities who tried to interfear when barack obama and joe biden were in the white house. comey, brennan, clapper let that happen or failed under their watch. this president will not allow anything to interfere with the integrity of our ballot system. which means we can't be sending ballot to dead cats. we've seen this story many times every person whoever lived at andres will be shipped a ballot. there will be no verification in place. no i.d. checking, no signature checking. that is a prone base baseball lot disasters to happen. around to steal an election. our elections are too important for that. elizabeth: what he is explaining absentee ballots are something different. absentee ballots voters sign up for them, get approved. what nevada is doing along with six other states like vermont and california, automatically

sending out mail-in ballots to voters. he is talking about just now, the president saying there could be voter fraud. there could be what is called ballot harvesting. nevada is hall allowing people outside of a voter as family to collect the ballots and turn them in. political groups could pick up the ballots, doing what every they can with the ballots to sway a race. what do you say? >> that is exactly right. look here in my home state of new hampshire we tightened laws require you to be a resident of the state to vote in our election. we were the last state that didn't require residency to vote in the state of new hampshire. everybody agrees. if you have an excuse not to be somewhere on election day, ailing issue, traveling, absentee voting is 100% legal and 100% legitimate. stood the test of time. what we are concerned of, the notion every person that ever lived at an address will get a ballot, regardless how long they lived there, if they moved 20

years ago. we've seen this, former pets of individuals are being registered by these third party groups, pets that aren't even alive anymore are being sent ballots. that is where the real problem comes in. our elections are too important. if you're not a u.s. citizen, you shouldn't be voting in this election. if you don't live at that address, you shouldn't vote there either. elizabeth: corey, the president said, quote, automatic universal mail-in balloting will be an embarassment, will turn the u.s. into an embarassment before the world. he is saying the u.s. postal service can't handle mail-in balloting. we see decrepit board of election systems here in new york city. two congressional races in new york have problems with mail-in balloting. hundreds of thousands of ballots came in but not on time. they have not declared a winner in race involving carolyn maloney. weeks are going past.

are democrat okay with this? democrat ares trying to turn the 2020 race and election into total chaos. so democrats are okay with this not being so state-of-the-art, not ready for prime time? they're okay with boards of elections, cities not ready for this? the u.s. postal service not ready for nationwide mail-in balloting? >> let me bring it back to the iowa caucus. this year in 2020, the democrat iowa caucus took a week to determine 100,000 votes because they couldn't count them properly because the app they put in place failed. the phone systems jammed. it took a week for the dems to count 100,000 votes to determine who won the iowa caucus for president of the united states of america. what other important job they have counting votes properly. they can't get it done right in new york. congressional election is going on. if the republicans were doing this, the media would be outraged by the fact we couldn't count the votes properly. the fact in states like patterson, new jersey, in that

community and new york we have congressional races still not called after six weeks. it should be only indication we need to know that this all mail-in ballot in these states is never going to work. elizabeth: all right. corey lewandoski, thank you so much for joining us. really great to have you on as we wrap up the president's press conference in the white house press room with corey lewandoski. great to see you. coming up mark green from house homeland security with violent protesters threatening a shakedown of local businesses in places like louisville, kentucky. small mom-and-pop shops, the mom-and-pop businesses are saying if they don't accede to protesters demands, that the protesters saying we will @tack attack you on line. the stores are getting vandalized. the story next with republican mark green. ♪

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. tomorrow, a hearing in the senate on violent anarchists still rioting in cities like portland and seattle. texas senator ted cruz will chair the senate subcommittee hearing. it will focus on rioting, not peaceful protests as democrats

face withering criticism staying silent on the violence. including joe biden, barack obama, nancy pelosi and jerry nadler who called antifa violence a myth. outrage is coming in nationwide over protesters in portland, oregon, burning bibles and an american flag, using that as kindling for bonfires outside of the federal courthouse there. violent rioting continuing in portland, even after federal law enforcement pulling back to let state and local police take over. they targeted officers with lasers, trying to blind them. threw things like glass bottles. protesters are pushing a list of demands on local small businesses, local mom-and-pop shops in cities like louisville, kentucky, threatening the mom-and-pop stores and restaurants. welcome republican mark green of tennessee. he is on house homeland security. he is also a combat veteran. great to see you, sir. the protesters are threatening small businesses saying if you don't do things like give 1 1/2%

of your net revenues to causes we support and if you don't put up display signs in our stores about our causes that we like, we're going to attack you and your businesses on the internet. your reaction to that, sir? >> yeah. all of this antifa stuff is basically bullying of a sort. it is akin to mafia type behavior and activities, we have to put a stop to it, number one. it is all in line with the whole defund america, defund the police, dismantle america. what you heard from ilhan omar, it is all in that same sort of theme. and interestingly enough about an fifa particularly, and you mentioned the bible burning all of that in portland, their name is an incredible misnomer. their actives is more fascist we've seen anything since 1945. they hate ideologies and they are attacking them and they're,

the most, least diverse of anything. they're a terrorist organization. thank goodness the president declared them such. this is, this is, this is crazy. we've got to -- [inaudible]. elizabeth: congressman, let's talk about what is going on in louisville, kentucky. >> sure. elizabeth: businesses, local residents are rallying behind the owner after local cuban restaurant. this, he is an immigrant i believe who owns it. his restaurant has been targeted with vandalism and attacks. the owner publicly spoke out saying that protesters are threatening him with, quote mafia style shakedowns and they're trying to extort local business. they're justifying, injustice with more injustice? i supported the u.s. i support america. i condemn your socialism. i love freedom. he is apparently got a child who is gay. so you know, he is saying his business is not racist but he is getting attacked. your reaction?

>> that mafia description is a perfect, you know, analogy i guess. this is criminal behavior. they're extorting a businessman to compel that he give a certain amount of money to their cause. that is exactly what the mafia used to do. and it is a criminal act and we should enforce those laws and put those people in jail. elizabeth: let's talk about the double standard. pro-life activists were arrested saturday morning for writing chalk on the ground, black, preborn lives matter in front of a washington, d.c., planned parenthood. they told the d.c. mayor weeks ago they were going to, this is students for life of america, frederick douglass foundation. they got a permit for the event. they sent a letter in late july to d.c. mayor muriel bowser. the mayor of new york reportedly did not get, black lives matter protesters did not get a permit. when they put black lives matter

on the street here in new york city but these guys get arrested? what is going on here? >> it's a massive double standard. you look in, i think it was nevada or, you know, utah, can't remember which state, just recently, the supreme court ruled that you know, casino could be open but a church can't? and they can actually increase the size of their, you know, the number of people based on the size of the facility whereas a church couldn't do that? it is absurd what is going on. we're hearing this stuff from the left going on all of the time. you can't, i guess you have a meeting, even if you're following social distance rules, if your belief, whatever your petitioning forgoes against what liberal democrats want you to. this is insane. it goes back to that, if you don't think the way we do, you don't get to hold your meeting. that's bizarre. they're denying first amendment rights to speech. and they're denying first

amendment rights to assembly and have religion and have faith. it is insane. that is who they are. that is the leadership of the democrat party. elizabeth: we're running out of time. >> got it. elizab this. a grandmother in portland, oregon, turned in her 18-year-old grandson saw him on television. she identified him. he is being charged with arson for throwing an explosive against a federal courthouse in portland. it set fire to wood and heard blocks around. talk about crime in portland, oregon, places there after they moved to defund the police. portland has more homicides in the month of july than any other month the last three decades. "wall street journal," 50 largest cities reported homicides up 25%. seven of the worst send 10 cities are run by democrats.

they're seeing more shootings and homicides than all of 2019. your reaction. >> 62% of americans do not want police defunded. in all the cities, vast majority are run by democrats where they talked about, or decreased the funding of police there has been a double-digit increase in homicides in 36 of those top 50 cities. double-digit. that is 10, maybe hundreds of americans who are dead because of these ridiculous democrat policies. i mean, those lives are on their hands. you look what is happening in chicago. even when the president offers to come in and help, they want to push back from that? the police themselves in chicago want the feds to come in and help yet those local leaders are pushing back? i mean that is again, it is all these democrats are. elizabeth: well, children are getting killed. a nine-year-old boy was shot dead in chicago this weekend t has come to this. i want to get to this. minneapolis police department

are advising local residents of minneapolis, you're on your own in minneapolis. be prepared to give up your cell phone, purse, wallet, approached by robbers. robberies are going to happen. don't argue, or fight with the criminal, do as they say. people are getting assaulted, maced in these robberies, sell phones, purses, maced, assaulted with guns that is going on in minneapolis. your reaction? >> they're being killed. there are rapes going on. what are they saying? give in, you can't even defend yourself? that is absurd. never happened in tennessee, i can assure but that is what is happening there in those democrat-run bastions. they're throwing up their hands, letting criminals own the city. it is absurd. elizabeth: congressman mark green, great to see you, sir, come back soon. >> thanks, liz. see you. elizabeth: he will be back.

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. republican senator ron johnson, he is now pushing back and pushing back hard as former obama advisor valerie jarrett avoids answering questions and downplays whether president barack obama directed and ordered any of the surveillance on the trump campaign in 2016. this all happened in an interview with our maria bartiromo. senator johnson noting quote, there was corruption at the

highest levels with obama when it came to spying on the trump campaign as president trump slamming new york prosecutors and their criminal investigation into his businesses. watch this. >> this ask continuation of the witch-hunt. it is democrat stuff. they failed with mueller. they failed with everything. they failed with congress. they failed at every stage of the game. this has been going on for 3 1/2, four years, even before i got in, this was starting with the mueller deal, mueller started a little bit after but it started with some of the people that you know very well the names, strzok, and page and all of the different people. elizabeth: let's welcome former independent counsel ken starr. ken, always great to have you back on. what was your reaction when you heard all of this? >> oh, i thought, my word, why can't we get to the truth? we have been struggling mightily to get to the truth, just get all the facts out and i must say, senator ron johnson is one

of the most respected members of the united states senate. he is very tenacious. he is very wise. he is an enormous amount of respect from his colleagues but now the infighting has begun. so when he was joined in a really powerful letter by senator charles grassley, likewise a deeply respected member of the senate, reknowned for his total integrity, the two of them essentially are saying to their colleagues and to the american people, we really want to get to the bottom of this at long last. what did among other people, president obama himself know and when did he know it? we need to know these facts and valerie jarrett and others need to cooperate but i don't think that is what we're going to be getting. elizabeth: well, let's show you what senator johnson said valerie jarrett basically dodging maria bartiromo's questions, valerie jarrett saying this happened four years ago. let's move on. watch senator johnson here.

>> well answer your question. she just talked about in general what the process should be. that is not the process they followed. it is very clear that there was corruption at the highest levels of certainly the fbi. we have evidence of it. i'm looking forward to john durham wrapping up his investigation. you know, i personally believe that the intelligence community was involved in this thing. you know, their initial goal was to exonerate hillary clinton. when, so see could win an election. when she lost the election, their goal shifted to first, first and foremost i think sabotaging the trump administration which they have done a pretty good job of. elizabeth: your reaction, ken? >> well, valerie jarrett has no excuse. if you're asked a question, you need to answer it. you can't simply say, hey i joined the latest movement on moveon.org. i'm sorry, he is united states senator. he is chairman of a very important committee, homeland

security, answer the questions. if you don't answer the questions, it is fair i believe in the political arena to joined a verse inference. in other words, if you don't answer the question, the question would be exculpatory. there would be guilt written all over your answer. that is a strong reaction. i think at this point four years into president trump's administration, it is absolutely time to get it all out. elizabeth: ken, reports are coming in it may be worse than realized. the second investigation led by u.s. attorney john bash we're seeing reports that they could be probing obama officials for unmasking, meaning exposing the names of trump team members in their communications and that the u.s. attorney may be looking at wrongdoing in unmasking by obama officials going back to 2015. it could include the collection of nas raw data, national security agency raw data from u.s. senators, u.s. citizens, u.s. citizens, and giving that raw data to outside contractors

working for the fbi. ken, finally the project for privacy, surveillance accountability, bob goodlatte, former house judiciary chair, ken, your reaction that the obama administration reportedly may have been spying on members of congress? we're talking about four dozen, current and former members of both the house and senate starting in january 2018 to january 15, 2020. your reaction to that? >> it is shameful and if in fact these things happened and it is appearing that they did, it is fair and accurate to use the term, liz, abuse of power. that is the abus of power. in fact it may constitute criminal conduct, especially if there was a revelation of some of this information to outsiders who especially the press, did not in fact need to have that information. elizabeth: ken, is this an indication of potential corruption at the highest levels of the obama administration if these reports are true, if they're true?

>> yes. if they're true, then we're talking about the use of the intelligence community, for totally inappropriate reasons. and that is exactly one of the bases on which richard nixon was impeached, for the abuse of power, for the misuse of intelligence agencies. so definitely a political crime, a political offense and a abuse of power. is it a crime in the traditional sense? that remains to be seen. elizabeth: ken starr, great to see you, thanks for coming on. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: sure. coming up, american conservative union chair matt schlapp on president trump's re-election campaign releasing two new advertisements in key swing states, painting joe biden as beholden to the far left socialist wing of the democrat party, saying america, you do not want to turn socialist under joe biden. matt schlapp is next. ♪ but when you have the chase mobile app,

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♪ elizabeth: president trump's campaign releasing two new advertisements today saying joe biden is beholden to the far left socialist wing of the democrat party. these are four, basically 30 second spots in four early voting swing states. one of the ads, biden is depicted alongside far left senator bernie sanders, representative alexandria ocasio-cortez and representative ilhan omar saying joe biden has embraced policies of radical left on taxes, the border, police funding. radical left has taken over joe biden and democrat party, don't let them take over america. that is the new message from the trump campaign. welcome american conservative union chair matt schlapp. will this resonate with voters? >> absolutely. the american people are quaking over what they're seeing going on the streets across this country and they're just nervous about what america's future is and president trump speaks for

people who want to aggressively defend this notion that america is still a good and decent place filled with good and decent people. elizabeth: you know trump campaign senior advisor jason miller said the election is not going to be delayed. that joe biden's choice for vice president, is biden's quote, living will. matt, joe biden basically said by his own admission he conceded that he merely is a placeholder. he told a fund-raising audience in may, i you view myself has a transition candidate for the next generation of democrats. what is your reaction to that? >> joe biden got the nomination because clinton, incorporated, obama, incorporated kind of shoved all the other democrats who had plenty of money and doing well in poles out of the race. they thought they had to focus on picking joe biden as the inevitable nominee. the problem, liz, he seems to not understand what's going on around him and so the president, the president needed his

campaign needs to hit this head on. joe biden is simply not ready to be president. when he was a senator he was radical and wrong on almost every important foreign policy question that hit the senate. so they have to hit him on the fact that he has been wrong for a long time. and they have to hit him on the fact he is simply not up to doing this job. he is not up to keeping a full day of campaigning. elizabeth: what's your take on the groundwork being laid in the media for biden to not do the pressdential debates? clinton's former white house press secretary joe lockhart is saying joe biden, don't do debates. it seems they're worried that biden has trouble articulating his views. that he will look frail next to president trump. how would media react if president trump's supporters saying don't do debates? "washington posts," "new york times," editorials, saying yeah, joe biden, don't do that. >> "new york times" saying presidential debates are not that important. shame on "the new york times."

shame on joe lockhart. the fact is presidential debates have been a part of the presidential campaigns for almost my entire lifetime. we've had them almost every cycle and they always helped the american people who really aren't that political, liz, to focus in and make their decision. the reason why they don't want joe biden to debate donald trump is he doesn't have the medical acuity to be able to be on a stage with donald trump for a long period of time and take tough questions, even when he asked questions, answers questions, now, they're given to him in advance. if you notice he has paddles on the screen. the answers are on the teleprompter he has to read and he has trouble with. that how will you sit across the table with china? how will you sit across the table with russia, if you can't even answer a couple of puffy questions from the "new york times"? elizabeth: matt schlapp, great to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up, house

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♪. elizabeth: to the border. a fourth law enforcement official now dead in texas. this is due to a july drunk driving crash, allegedly caused by an illegal alien who was allowed to stay in the u.s. under former president obama's daca program. former house border security caucus chair, andy biggs of texas. congressman, what disthis mean for the issue of critical behavior in the illegal immigrant population? because we're seeing data going back from fiscal 2013 to 2017, 2100 illegals came in under daca, thought to be alleged criminals or gang members, they were kicked out. we're studying the data here. we're digging into it. your reaction to this? >> liz, there is actually far more than that number but this is the number that we've been able to get so far. a lot of these cases are low profile. you don't hear much about them. the policy itself allowed two convictions for misdemeanors.

people think, oh, that is shoplifting but includes dui, prostitution. in some cases it includes pimping prostitution. these are serious crimes and unfortunately this individual should have been removed from the country years ago and as a result of his allowed to be remain in this country, we have four innocent officers who were killed by him just not too very many weeks, too many days ago actually. elizabeth: let's dig into this case. this illegal alien who was arrested in texas, he is ivan navejas, 28 years old. charged by the kerr county, texas six accounts of intoxicated assault with a vehicle. six counts of intoxicated vehicle manslaughter. he killed four members of the thin blue line group. this is a motorcycle club. they're active duty servicemembers, law enforcement officers, retired officers. he critically injured nine

others of the group. he is here, has been here, he also was charged with other crimes prior to this crash. your reaction? >> yeah. just two quick points. number one, he has a prior arrest for dui. he also had been released on bail for an aggravated assault where he assaulted somebody and bit their ear off. so this is the kind of guy this was. he was allowed to remain in this country. as the officers who were there who survived have indicated, when he crossed right into their formation, crossed the middle line into them, there were other cars behind them. if these officers hadn't been hit, he would have hit and some other people as well. he would have hit other cars. this is an unnecessary tragedy. this is something that we have that is unforced error. people like this should have been vetted, should have been removed. and i would say this, the trump administration has been trying hard to correct that because that first arrest was i believe

in 2015 or 2016 and, he was allowed to remain here. that should never have been the case. elizabeth: you know, it's sensitive subject for democrats. democrats don't like to talk about crime committed by illegal aliens. on this show, we talk about the victims. we don't treat them as rounding errors or just statistics. the three other victims killed in this crash by the illegal alien, 4-year-old retired officer joe from chicago. 47-year-old retired colonel. we think in 20s. retired officer michael weiss of chicago. the point they served the country. that he had been in the u.s. with daca program. it is difficult to get statistics on daca, tough to get nailed down what the concrete data is, there is not good sufficient data to track them. your reaction to this?

now servicemembers and law enforcement officers killed by an illegal alien in one crash. >> my heart goes out to the families of officer heart per, widen. i have one killed in my own district. the one officer was killed by illegal alien driving on the wrong side of the road. we don't get the data. we've never been able to ascertain exactly how many people qualify for the original daca program. how many people were immediately stopped from going, well over 100,000 we believe. literally hundreds of thousands of people here from daca. we've not done a great job vetting vet vetting these people. that is the problem on that side of the issue as well as for the victims. elizabeth: so sorry we had a mistake in our copy. producer put in you're representative from texas. you're from arizona. congressman andy biggs from

arizona. great to see you. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: okay, i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. thank you so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening and join us tomorrow night. good to see you. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. we're waiting for the president this hour to hold his news conference in the white house briefing room. now, we expect president trump to give us an update on his administration's fight against the china virus and potentially take some questions from the assembled white house press corps. they get along so well, you know. we'll be bringing you the president's remarks, nonetheless, just as soon as he takes the podium. and be sure to join us here tomorrow for my exclusive interview with president trump. that's at 5 p.m. eastern right

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