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questions. email us at varneyviewers@foxbusiness.com. tweet us, send us a video, we'll share responses at the end of the week. my time is up. neil, i think you have the novavax ceo own your show today, right? neil: indeed we do. one of so many promising vaccines. it is when you think about it, stuart, the market moves on its own accord, anything good on the virus treatment front we're off to the races. we're already in on that mode anyway but this sort of gave it a boost. we'll see what it -- stuart, we're following you have, what is going on corner of wall and broad with 315 point ad vans in the dow. as stuart pointed out we'll talk to the head of novavax on this promising new technology which led antibody push to develop a defense against covid-19. we're exploring that in more detail. earnings are giving stocks a big
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ol' boost here. that is propelling the entire market. gold is having another good day. in case you're counting it is not good for gold bugs, what bugs we don't keep track of what gold is doing, whether stocks are up or down gold has inexorable advance up 2%. in case you're counting, that is up 33% on the year. that is dwarfing any other particular investment. i would include in that batch all the major market averages and what is happening with bonds. gold has glitter that defies almost all the traditional trajectories you see. let's get a read from jackie deangelis following the fast-moving market developments. what is going on here? reporter: good afternoon, neil. let's start with disney stock that is propelling the stock is higher. it is up by 325 points. there were mixed earnings reports, but what wall street is focusing on is disney plus and
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subscriber numbers. 100 million streaming subscriber numbers. 65 million are paid. put it in context, disney set a goal of 60 to 90 million subscribers by 2024. it is well ahead if not blowing away that kind of a target. that is what wall street wants to see. it looks at parks, all other closures, something a lot of businesses are dealing with at the moment but disney had the very strong asset it is moving forward with. that is one piece of the story. you also mentioned the factual street gets excited about anything that has to do with vaccines and i want to give you two updates here because johnson & johnson reached a deal with the u.s. government for 100 million doses of coronavirus vaccine valued at more than a billion dollars. the vaccine is set to start the late-stage trials in about a month's time. that is the human trials in september and there is an option in this deal for the government to purchase an additional 200 million doses as well.
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dr. paul stoval, the chief science officer at johnson & johnson said quote, we're scaling up production in the united states and worldwide to deliver a sars cove-2 vaccine for emergency use. this is moving forward. the news there, its covid-19 vaccine generated prominent response. that is the latest we have. dr. gregory glen, the head of research and development. he was on with maria bartiromo and he said this. >> one of the key find national the trial we can use a very small dose to get a very strong immune response. if you make a tank with million doses, you can use 10 times less, that becomes 10 million doses. reporter: this is all positive news when it comes to putting the pandemic in the rear view mirror even though it may take some time. look at that board, neil, i have not been ignoring them.
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gold trading at 2057. silver is up as well. three reasons the commodities, pressures metals move higher, one a dovish fed. you have a little bit after weaker dollar. traders trade these assets more and it is bullish for gold. it is a hedge against inflation. some people are worried about that right now. the third reason the metals are moving higher. it is diversification, it's a safety trade. that price reflects the investors not only looking at equities but other asset classes too. neil. neil: indeed they are and all concurrently which in of itself is a little odd but these are crazy times. jackie, thank you very much. before i get to the next story i want to update you on the beirut bombing here, we're not saying it was a deliberate attack, but saying the blast itself they still haven't ascertained the source right now or what prompted it, but number of those killed has been ratcheted up to
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135, more than 5000 wounded. many are still missing. we'll keep you posted on that. that explosion yesterday the president seemed to think was an attack, that generals told him, no general that we know have come out to say that was indeed the case but it is way too early to tell. lebanon's health minister saying right now that the number of those killed has just shot up to 135 and he seems to be signaling that could go up. we're following as well again these developments in the stimulus front to deal with the coronavirus and the aftermath of all of that. these two sides are a little closer than you might think. in fact growing talk, edward lawrence on this, they might be able to cobble together something by friday. that seems ambitious, edward, but what are you hearing? reporter: very ambitious. there are some big differences, some big divides in certain areas among the two sides. they did set a goal to have an agreement overall by the end of this week. that way something could be
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passed next week through congress. what will not likely be in the bill anything related to payroll tax relief. on "fox & friends" this morning the president said he might take matters into his own hands on that one issue. listen. president trump: i may do it myself. we're negotiating right now. i have the right to suspend it and i may do it myself. i have the absolute right to suspend, to do the payroll tax, we call it a payroll tax suspension. that is incentive for people and small businesses and businesses generally to hire back their workers. reporter: he is also looking at an executive order on pausing evictions. if the administration and democrats remain in a stalemate. an emerging issue on this is state bailouts. democrats want to give out one trillion dollars to bail out states, to put back in salt deductions. that would allow blue states to put taxes in more easily. the last face-to-face meeting
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was last night again. all sides saying it was productive. >> we really went down issue by issue, by issue, slogging through them. they made some concession which we appreciated. we made some concessions which they appreciated. we're still far away on some issues but we're continuing to go at it. reporter: one of the issues, what they're looking at what is left about the payroll protection program. $138 billion is left in the pot. almost 170 trade association members sent a letter to congress asking to make those forgivable loans, not paying taxes for businesses. right now it is income to business. there is the letter there on your screen. they would like to see them not be income for businesses. also, opening up the ppp program for a second bite at the apple. so some much those hardest hit programs could get another forgivable loan. neil? neil: edward, thank you very,
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very much we told you a little earlier by the way joe biden will not be traveling to milwaukee to accept his party's nomination in order to protect public health. whether he does so in a speech from delaware, his home state is anyone's guess but already nancy pelosi, i guess she is giving an interview on another news channel, i believe it is msnbc, saying that it would be a mistake for the president to give his nominating speech from the white house, that is the not ideal venue. that is the president's home, by the way, but she thinks it would be, it look bad if he makes his announcement, accept his party's nomination in a speech from the white house. no reaction yet from the white house. i want to go to john tamney on these fast moving developments. real clear markets editor, center for economic freedom director. we also have with us john bussey from the "wall street journal," fox news contributor, much, much more. john bussey, end it with you,
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your thoughts back and forth what looks good conventionwise, where you give a speech, where you physically are. both parties ratchetly down the drama on these things. it is what it is but i'm wondering the effect of the nominee itself in each party's case not being there for the big speech, does it make a difference? >> i think that, neil, both of these parties realized proximity is the friend of the virus and at this stage neither wants to be perceived as making things worse. the president ran into this when he held his rallies in tulsa to begin with where he got, gatherers together. people were not wearing masks. he was not encouraging it and it was seen as a super spreader event for the tulsa area. both parties don't want to be a party to that. they also have their own members
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who don't want to get infected by this so i think you will see a ratcheting back of in-person events in their entirety. a lot of this will be done on the phone. a lot of haggling over the platform and other issues has been taking place for weeks and months now, and the in-person event, the balloons falling from the ceiling, that is going to have to be delayed to another day, another election, another election cycle. neil: you know, john tamney, as we look at markets with a pretty heady advance today, combination of factors as you know better than many on optimism for vaccine or potential treatment, we'll talk to the head of one of the companies getting a lot of attention today, novavax, but there is also this view, you know, some of the economic numbers come out of late have looked pretty strong. now the president in an interview earlier was talking about the idea all that goes if joe biden gets elected. this is from the president
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earlier. >> our stock market is very close to hitting a new record. nasdaq has already hit a new record. joe will drive the market into a depression, and the biggest thing holding back our stock market is the possibility that biden gets elected because if he gets elected, our stock market will crash f we didn't have an election right now, two things would happen, number one, our stock market would be even higher. neil: all right. that was from his phone in to "fox & friends" this morning. leaving awe side what you feel about the president or joe biden, this motion that market was tank if he loses. so far the markets are doing very well, either they're not thinking about that possibility or they're dismissing it. what about you? >> well, i don't think markets are in love with joe biden but i think overall they're much more pleased with biden than they were with bernie sanders.
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we saw that after the south carolina primary. i don't think there would be a huge correction. i think there are things holding back the markets right now. you began today with talk about the dollar. what do investors buy when they invest? they buy future returns in dollars. a weak dollar is necessarily anti-big stock market returns. look at the 1970s, look at the 2000's. i would add we're witnessing i think is the theft of the chinese company by the federal government. it would be the equivalent of 10, 12 years ago, if the chinese government took facebook from its owners. that necessarily is going to scare investors. these things can flame out. the chinese are understandably proud of one of their great businesses, their first great internet success. this is what the u.s. does in response. it blames an app popular with children as a potentially a threat to national security. there are real things happening here that would spook markets
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from this administration. neil: you know what, obviously the markets were a little concerned about bill clinton coming in, john bussey. we know markets did okay under that democrat but i know there are difference, i get all of that, but when do the marketing, do you think, john, begin to seriously, more seriously weigh the election, whether they move in favor or against the president and his polling numbers? is it late summer, is it early fall? what is the point wait a minute, now it is getting serious? >> yeah, so markets are non-denominational in general. they're looking for economic growth, higher earnings, if they can find that combo they are going to go up. they just didn't do well during the clinton administration. they rocketed during the administration of bill clinton. that was because there was a generally business-friendly growth period in the united states and the economy did very well.
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so markets look out ahead. they are looking six months, 18 months out. they're looking around the next corner and this notion a biden election would or would not take the market is an effort by the president, you know, look, it is a political season, to play politics. he is way behind in the polls. he is got a health crisis that is being mismanaged by the white house on his hands. he has got an economy in a deep slump. so you could argue, couldn't you, neil, that the markets which look ahead see the polling data, see that biden is significantly ahead of the president at this point. they're, markets are metabolizing that data. thinking when will we find a solution to this coronavirus case, health crisis, which is holding the economy back. and they're call calculating well, there may ad administration change. that might propel a quicker
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national plan of testing and surveillance, all the things we need to stop the virus. the markets metabolizing that, and is thinking postively about joe biden. so you could play this either way politically but the at end of the day the markets expecting economic growth and earnings returns. that's why you see it up today. it is hoping that the vaccine is going to be forthcoming soon. it might be overoptimistic, but that is it what is playing into the market today. neil: all right. don't green tape, whatever you want to say. guys, thank you very much. breaking news i want to pass along with you here. we're getting more details on this new york city plan where they're setting up quarantine checkpoints at all entrances into new york city including all the five boroughs that make up the city. they will be checking you and having you fill out forms to say, where are you traveled, where you have gone. failure to fill out those forms, can you imagine doing this at
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penn station in new york? that should go well. there is 2,000-dollar fine and a mandatory quarantine if you don't. they stick it to you with the fine, then they quarantine your sorry little you know what. a lot of people looking all right, we understand they're trying to crack down and deal with the potential spread of the virus here but, i don't know, katy jakosky, former federal prosecutor, constitutional law attorney, many i have talked to have bristled at that, the fact it is really stepping on personal rights, personal freedoms. i know these are different times. what do you make of it? katy, i am sorry we seem to have audio issues, i apologize for that. just to give you update on this if we don't fix, take a quick break, hopefully fix it.
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these requirements go into effect immediately. the governor imposed restrictions on anyone visiting new york state in the aggregate. you have gone to any one much 30 odd states governor deems to be at risk, high spiked states you have to quarantine yourself 14 days. this is directly in the city, mayor de blasio's venue where he is going to enforce it by the security checkpoints. again some people find intrusive. hopefully we get things fixed with katy. get more on that. dow is up 310 points. i leave you with the note that a lot has to do with optimism a vaccine could be had and maybe novavax is lead position in sort of having a lead run at this. the company's ceo is coming up. you're watching fox business. as business moves forward, we're all changing the way things get done.
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a, if you don't have the virus, see where you traveled, and fill out forms to that effect if you don't could produce 2,000-dollar fines, maybe mandatory quarantine whether you like it or not. what do you make of them? can they do that? >> well i think if we learned anything through this covid crisis is that states and city leaders really have wide discretion to do a lot of things to protect public health but that always has to be balanced against the impact it has on interstate commerce. so i think the short answer here, yes, this is probably going to be permissible, at least in the short term. will there be law suits? probably yes. we've seen hawaii doing this sort of thing for months though. the bottom line the states do have a lot of discretion to protect public health for short periods of time. and that is what this is going to boil down to. neil: i guess the one part of this we've seen different from states monitor when you come in,
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you have to quarantine, added element filling out a form, at new york's penn station or grand central station and asking you to fill out a form and you don't, you're offended or in a rush, then they could pile fines, quarantine threats, whether you have the thing or not? what do you make of that? >> well that's going to be the part that has to be looked at by the courts. if somebody wants to file a lawsuit say this will impact my right to participate in interstate commerce in that state, and term is interpreted very broadly, by interstate commerce we mean any movement into and out-of-state could potentially impact the commerce. so i think it is a stringent requirement but because of the short-term and emergency nature of the situation it would probably be permissible but again, these are going to be the subject of probably many lawsuits as we move forward here. neil: wow. katie, thank you very much. i apologize for all of that. >> thanks, neil. neil: i am glad we kept you
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quarantined there. you may go now. seriously very good having you, katie. we're still following what happened in beirut, the bombing after port facility, explosion i should say. bombing, maybe that this might have been set by someone, we just don't know. what we do know they're uncovering more bad news almost by the minute. there are reports of at least 135 dead, more than 5000 injured. those numbers could exponentially start soaring. john hannah, former vice president dick cheney national security advisor. john, the president seemed to intimate in his remarks to the press that generals tell him this was an attack. i haven't heard generals come out say that themselves. they might privately have told him that. i guess it is too soon to know for sure. your own thoughts? >> yeah, high, neil. almost immediately there were
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people on background out of the pentagon saying that they had no idea where the president was getting his information and that they had seen no evidence of that claim. it doesn't mean it is wrong, but i think unless the president really had good reason for saying it, it is irresponsible because right now all of the evidence first points to the fact stored at this port in beirut were several thousand tons of fertilizer, ammonium nitrate, highly volatile, that had been there since 2013. so for almost seven years this stuff was being stored there. people had tried to get rid of it. they had gone to court to find places to disperse it. they knew that putting it downtown in one of the most beautiful cities in the world was a criminally negligent act, and in essence was a bomb in waiting, a disaster in waiting.
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that is what we've now seen. neil: we've also seen israel reach out and offer help if needed. i don't know if lebanon has accepted that help but all the disparate, sometimes warring parties involved have offered to help out. i'm just wondering in a flip sense, kind of to your remarks, whether an issue like this can unite folks, if you get past the charges back and forth? >> well, i mean, you know, this is the middle east so, i suppose hope springs eternal. but we've got a lot of experience that suggests it won't. i think really is important to say that the israelis were very quick and emphatic to say this was not them, to reach out to say that israel's world class hospitals would be open to taking in the injured in lebanon, since lebanon's own hospitals have been absolutely
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overwhelmed. so i again, i think going back to the president's remarks, given the fact that israel and hezbollah, the lebanese terrorist organization, have such a fraught history, that tensions between them, even recently have been very high, to make an accusation or a claim that israel or suggesting that israel could have been even responsible for this i think, when the region already is on a razor's edge was type of thing that really could tip it over into a war-like situation that would even make yesterday's events as horrible as they are look like child's play and another war between israel and hezbollah. it is worth saying, neil, while hezbollah may not be responsible for the events at the port it is responsible, i think for the overall level of despair that lebanon has fallen into.
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it is an economy in freefall. it is now a government-dominated by hezbollah that is filled with criminality, with terror financing, with drug smuggling, unable to get any kind of serious economic assistance from the international community to bail it out and i think that level of incompetence, criminality and contempt for the good of the lebanese people is what we saw on display yesterday, if in fact this results from having this extremely dangerous material stored at that port in searing heat for the last six years. neil: yeah. it was indeed searing heat. temperatures were about 10 degrees over what they are normally this time of year. john hannah, we'll monitor it closely, good catching up with you even under these particular dire circumstances. as john was wrapping up there, i was getting more details on at
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around manhattan to get into new york city, a lot of swanky properties go begging. kristina partsinevelos where that stands right now. kristina? reporter: very, very swanky properties that used to go for millions and millions. you had bidding wars, like you mentioned, you have foreign buyers leaving. coronavirus makes it difficult to have in-person shows and new developments caused prices to drop, like this home in the upper east side. it goes, neil, for a cool 1$.5 million. that is a steal from the peak price in 2007 when it was $35 million. i spoke to the broker of this home. he is also on million dollar listing, about why buyers, he believes are really making decisions on emotions more than anything else. listen in. >> when it is all said and done, fear is a much bigger disease than anything else, because it inflicts people, forces them to
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change their entire lives. kind of what you were just saying. the fear of no school. the fear of office. the fear of crime. the fear of tax, freezes people. reporter: just last week alone we saw a huge dip in luxury homes. these properties are listed over $4 million. only three were sold. the average price drop is 14%. some brokers are arguing that you had taxes increased, people started leaving earlier and the fact they haven't been able to show a lot of the buyers the homes in person. so there is a little bit of price distortion. but there is still really expensive hopes that are selling. like a home that sold for almost $100 million in south-central park just within the past two weeks or so. and then jeffrey epstein's home, his home is on the market for $88 million, but no buyers yet. neil, we definitely have a very rocky manhattan real estate market. yes, prices are dropping, but
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for many, it is unaffordable. the average price here in new york city is one million dollars. so i'm thinking about putting a bid but on the shed in the backyard. it might be better than my current apartment. back to you. neil: oh, i thought that was your current apartment. reporter: welcome to, we can party in here next time. neil: yeah, i see the pigs in the blanket on the table there. oh, yeah, this should be great. kristina, thank you very, very much. kristina partsinevelos. for a lot of folks looking necessarily to get pricey real estate but just to survive right now. the problem what happens in the fall when a lot of parents have to weigh, what will they do about their kids? whether virtual learning, in person learning? goldman sachs already started crunching some numbers and kind of agreeing with the president on this that everyone should be back in school. goldman sachs saying on the money side of it, it will be a
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cash drain on parents, that a lot of them will have to stop working entirely to support their kids going back to school, at least be with them. margaret spellings, former bush 43 education secretary. secretary, good to have you. we'll leave it to goldman sachs to take politics out of it and deal with the money side of it saying a lost people are going to have to quit their jobs or at least beg mercy from their bosses as they try to shuttle both. it is not going to go well economically. do you agree with that? >> i do. i mean the american economy and our schools functioning and universities functioning well is integral to our economy because there are large employers. there are consumers of large amounts of goods and services in communities. they obviously support the functioning of our workforce, especially for women, who are often left with issues around
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child care and the like and above all they are critical to preparing our workforce of the future. and so you bet, we got to do what we need to do, wear masks, keep distanced, all of that, so we flatten these churches and get our schools and universities functioning so that our economy can go. neil: you know, i'm just wondering, secretary, you always want to be on the better part of safety but are we overreacting? >> right. neil: the university of connecticut football team deciding we'll not have a season. it is too risky, all of that. i'm sure other schools, conferences will follow. i know they sort of crunch numbers themselves, what is an acceptable risk, be a spike in cases without a doubt when people recongregate but are we overreacting to the point of weighing possibility of some getting sick, god forbid dying,
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shutting everything down to eliminate that risk? >> to me there is a difference between sports and nice to have, fun to have activities and meat and potatoes of our schools and universities, and that is educating our students. we got to get them functioning. are we overreacting? we don't know yet. we never tried this before. one thing important for the federal government and research community figure out which of the models will work better than others. we have a lot of variety going on around the country. we ought to figure out what is the best way to keep students safe. neil: secretary, thank you very, very much, see what happens here. sill early in the going here. right now in case you're keeping track at home, at least 28 states are delaying the school year. another six are looking at sort of a blended approach of classes and virtual classes and to the secretary's point it bears watching as this keeps accelerating. we're following right now the advance in the stock market
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neil: it was something to rival superstorm sandy, the tropical storm that ripped through the new york metropolitan area, all along the atlantic eastern seaboard. did a lot of damage and they're still cleaning up after it. aishah hasnie joins us from queens, new york, where it also claim ad life. aisha. reporter: queens got hit very hard. that is a tree ripped out of concrete sidewalk, that is how strong the hurricane force winds
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that ripped through. it didn't damage one vehicle, damaged, one, two, three, four, five, six, that you can't even see. that is how bad it was. the mayor was touring the area here. more than 2,000 trees were brought down during the storm in new york city, including one that killed a man in his 60s. he was sitting inside of a van when a massive oak tree snapped at its base, fell on top of the van crushing him. others got really lucky. listen. >> we were all in the kitchen. >> what did you hear? >> we heard like a big crack. >> there used to be a third dormer at the top which is now in our driveway. so, no one was hurt. in the scheme of things, all good. reporter: this was a storm all, absolutely had tornadoes as a part of it as well in new jersey, at least two tornadoes reportedly touched down wreaking havoc there. the big issue, neil is power.
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new york's governor andrew cuomo calling for an investigation into the power companies here as about three million people are without power in the northeast. he has called their performance unacceptable. nearly a million are without power in new jersey alone. governor phil murphy says that out-of-state crews are on their way to help but unfortunately the hope is that at least by late friday night, 80% of customers will finally be restored and again, we're dealing with massive issues for commuters. more than 2,000 trees fell across long island rail network, crippling mass transit, well into the late hours of the night. service continues to be suspended on certain lines. in pennsylvania strong winds ripped the roof right off of a day-care with 130 kids inside. some babies even inside. four kids suffered minor injuries. but, neil, the urgency to get the power restored as quickly as
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possible. neil: thank you very, very much. meantime i want to take you to the other side of the country in seattle in case you were of the view this defunding the police movement was slowing down or ebbing, dan springer can tell you that the seattle city coins renewed that process. what is the latest, dan? reporter: neil, seattle is one of about 16 cities across the country in some stage of defunding its police department, but here in seattle, the mayor and police chief are pushing back with a key vote on the issue looming less than a week away. next month e monday the city council would vote on a measure that would cut $3 million from the spd budget. it would cost the them 100 officers. they want to eliminate the mounted patrol, school officers, public affairs department and navigation teams that clear out homeless encampments. chief best criticized the
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council while not contacting here how this would affect public safety. >> they push by the council to do large-scale changes in 2020 with no practical plan for community safety and i believe wholeheartedly that is completely reckless. reporter: seattle police officers guild is trying to put pressure on the council to not cut funding. the union created this ad, sign a petition opposing any defunding plan. so far 150,000 people have signed it. spo-d is planning a rally at city hall. mayor general any ducker jenny durkan, would make the department less traverse. >> that is not how it will work. it will be 100 officers who are less senior. it will be our most diverse recruits. people we brought into the department to be that new vision of the future.
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reporter: neil, public pressure continues on the other side of the ledger. there will be a defund the police rally starting at noon out here pacific time going for couple hours ending at city hall. the city council members voting next monday will hear a loud, boisterous crowd today cutting department by $3 million this year and much more next year. neil? neil: dan springer in seattle. thank you very, very much, my friend. we are looking at the markets right now where the dow is up more than 304 points. some technology news to pass along today. apple might be delaying release of iphones but samsung sort of scooping into the lurch here, announcing a whole bevy of products. they're getting a lot of buzz. these are pretty cool products. the latest on what the company is offering to beat apple to the punch. ♪ - hey, can i... - safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys!
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ledge cents bts. you know it's a party. they have new 5g smartphones, galaxy fold and note 20. ear buds, tablet and a watch. there is the five devices. announces partnership with microsoft xbox. that will start in september. adding 100 new games on to the smartphones which will be playable by mobile. that is exciting. that includes mine croft which is very popular. if the market is ready for the new 1000-dollar plus smartphones. they unveiled the price on this. galaxy fold and note are two of the most expensive in samsung's line. ear buds will be $169 in september. the watch as well, just a few hundred dollars. they're playing a catchup with the wearables. apple the wearable division for them fortune 100 company, $6 billion in revenue in the past quarter. for samsung will they be able to sell the 1000-dollar phones?
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i'm sure apple will be closely watching this is ahead of their 5g launch which is expected in october instead of september. we know apple ships around twice as many phones here in the u.s. than samsung does globally. samsung ranks apple in shipments 30% more around the world. these are lower margins, cheaper phones samsung sells. they make 10 times less in sales each and every year. neil: you know what i like about their stuff? i'm not favoring one or the other. their cameras are really good. they really are. i'm wondering, that always gives them an edge. i always feel apple is playing catchup to that? >> i would argue maybe not anymore because if you look at the new pro maxes an 11 lines, just in the past year apple learned from samsung's lead in these triple backed cameras. you're seeing it in the in the
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galaxy note device. strong camera build as user base. samsung on the screen, those are slick new cameras on the phone but with pixels as well. they are known for the camera system. apple challenged that. some would argue between google and apple have the best camera system on their phones. neil: i'm old enough to remember used to judge phones, how does it sound? how does the call sound? forget it. but look at the camera. susan, great. i would, i would bring -- i'm old enough to remember the bricks. great job as always. dow up 305 points. latest on convention news. biden not going to his. president not going to his. jeez. ♪
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now you can trade stocks and etfs for any amount you choose instead of buying by the share. all with no commissions. stocks by the slice from fidelity. get your slice today. neil: well, it is all about the virus. progress on maybe the vaccine front, we will talk to the head of novavax on that, with a very very promising treatment that could be out maybe by the end of this year. then there's the stimulus front over the virus, where we could see a deal, believe it or not, by the end of this week. at least that's what some of the principals are hinting at. chad pergram on that now, joining us from capitol hill. really, by the end of the week? reporter: well, that's something
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we are hearing. they are inching toward that. that's kind of an artificial deadline. the reason that they want to get this in by friday is so they can put it into legislative texts next week, then they have to sell it to the house and the senate and that is a gargantuan task on a bill of this size and magnitude. that's why the white house chief of staff mark meadows, he is tempering expectations. listen. >> secretary mnuchin is prepared to make key proposals that hopefully will be met with enthusiasm and yet we're a long ways away from striking any kind of a deal. reporter: the trump administration made an offer of renewing additional unemployment aid through mid-december. $400 a week, that's down from the $600 which expired in july. there would also be a moratorium on evictions through december 15th. they are far apart on nutrition
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assistance, that's a must-have for democrats along with help for state and local governments. >> we really went down issue by issue by issue, slogging through them. they made some concessions which we appreciated. we made some concessions which they appreciated. we are still far away on a lot of the important issues but we're continuing to go at it. reporter: they have now negotiated for a week and a half without major progress and that's why some rank and file members are starting to grow antsy. >> as i look to where we are, i feel the same discouragement, despair that we were here on the 4th of august and we don't have answers for people right now that are really worried. reporter: there's going to be another meeting at 3:00 this afternoon among the principals but a new face in these meetings, the postmaster general, louis de joy. remember, democrats want money in this bill, a big sum in fact
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for the postal service. neil? neil: thank you very very much. keep us posted, my friend, as you always do better than anyone else. meantime, integral in these talks is some aid democrats want to see go the states' way. lot of states' budgets have been pounded by the virus, and some were already in bad shape to begin with, although that's really complicated matters a great deal. lauren simonetti on how that poses a whole bunch of problems for public colleges, universities and the rest. lauren, what's going on here? lauren: hi, neil. college is in crisis. first and foremost, hit by lower enrollment. enrollment this far is predicted to see a decline of up to 20% but that is the straw that could break the camel's back because enrollment at colleges has been declining for a decade now. the pandemic just making it worse. it's not just the class numbers that the industry is worried about, but the traditional cash cows for many schools, sports and football programs, housing
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and dining, all of that dried up by the virus, and states as you not noted, cutting their spending budgets. california by $1.7 billion. maryland by $186 million. and that federal relief package, $14 billion, deemed insufficient. this is raising the very real possibility that some smaller schools will be forced to shut down and that would certainly disrupt students' education. in fact, in the past five years there's been at least 50 schools that were forced to close abruptly in many cases, or merge with another partner just to survive. then we are seeing some public/private partnerships and one that was just inweenween e universit a ofn eonalononmpany. twhat they the aregryin t is i evevenmomomo adults wlt who a ao llenroll.rollrongooking fornocar il?neil? neil: lauren tenhank yhaououer
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in tin meanmememememeacac in washington, thisushus to getet something done and maybe mayy te of th o , as chad pem reported, that might be ambitious but that's the goal anyway, but when i talk to west virginia democratic senator joe manchin about this yesterday, he was saying we're always in the same pickle doing everything at the last minute. he argues that it's complicated things. take a look. your point, senator, that seems to be the middle ground, the way we're going. am i misinterpreting that? >> no, i think you're right. i don't think we are going to stay at the 600. even if the president did it, he will do it for a week or month or two. the house has passed its bill. if you think it's overgenerous or too much or trying to create or trying to cure all the social ills in one piece of legislation, then the senate has to sit down and negotiate. the last two months, we really haven't done any negotiation anticipating this date would come. that's the problem. neil: all right. well, that's the problem right now because they still haven't got a deal but he did seem to intimate at the outset that
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there is going to be something on the unemployment benefit front, whether it's going to be the $600 a week that the federal government has provided on top of individual state unemployment packages is anyone's guess. it will probably go down but it won't just go away. let's get the read from edward stringham, american institute for economic research president. we have jessica tarlov with us, fox news contributor and last but not least, connell mcshane. connell, i understand, the big cheese with the "after the bell" show, everything else, everything was hunky-dory but your power went out and you were unable to make it to air so it's interesting how i orchestrated that, isn't it? >> we have now gotten the list of suspects. this was yesterday at 3:57 p.m. i'm working out of this beautiful home studio and all of a sudden, all of a sudden the power's on all day with the tropical storm coming up the coast. two to three minutes before air, blackout. you say well, who's on another
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network at the same exact time that might stand to benefit from the power going out. so we're looking into it. investigators don't want to leap to any conclusions. so far, everything looks pretty good today. neil: all right. we can pull the plug on him now, guys. all right. i'm not minimizing it. the battle back and forth over i think it's come down to those unemployment benefits, so i think, they will stay around. i don't know if they will be at $600 a week. that's doubtful. but they will stick around. i'm wondering if that is an acknowledgment on the part of republicans that will push this, that well, you know, we do have these states sort of reshuttering, if you will, and that is the reality. a lot of these people that had to go back to work are now in a pickle that they can't. what do you make of that? >> i think --
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>> i think there's definitely -- neil: jessica first. i'm sorry. >> i'll go super-fast. actually, that's not true. i never go super-fast but i will try. i think it is indicative of republicans making a concession that they were wrong to make the argument that we didn't need these benefits in the first place, and those who have been out there saying that this is pushing people into a position where they are trying to stay on unemployment benefits versus get back to work. we know the american public wants to get back to work. if they have safe conditions to do so. i think it could probably go down to around $400 from the $600, not the $200 that was proposed. as we are facing a potential for a second wave or what might be a third wave in some states, when the flu season actually comes around, they need to make sure that everyone has these unemployment benefits and i would encourage our audience to watch, we were talking about this yesterday on the floor of the senate, strongly making the case for why these benefits are the least we can do considering what americans are up against. neil: all right.
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i do know the republican argument. it does make sense on paper, you know, obviously with i think 67% of those receiving these benefits collectively between their own state aid and the federal aid are making more, in some cases a lot more than they did, you know, when they were working. so republicans are concerned about putting a limit on that. how do you strike that balance? edward? >> great, yeah. i think it's a major problem. they are paying people more in many cases money to not work than they were getting paid beforehand and part of the goal that the cares act was to give some loans, forgivable loans to businesses to get people off of the unemployment insurance, get people back on payroll, but the conditions of that are not being met because part of it is that companies can't actually get the workers to come back to work.
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ultimately, these unemployment benefits are going to be paid for by taxpayers, paid for by workers, paid for by corporations, so it's not like it's free money, and it's coming from the average person, the average business person. and causing people to not get off the unemployment roll and back into the economy i think is a major, major problem. adding employment benefits, unemployment benefits well beyond what they normally do just does not make any sense at all to me. neil: these are special times and special conditions. i get that. but you know, connell mcshane, one of the things that's come up with this whole back-and-forth on this is this idea that maybe, maybe what we're looking at here is stubbornly high unemployment. we always seem to talk about one out of four restaurants that will never reopen, 25,000 retail establishments that have closed, so now there's this growing fear that the improvement we have seen, and we have seen
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improvement since things started opening up, might stymie a little bit here. maybe we will get evidence of that in the friday employment data for july, but what are you hearing? >> we might have seen some of it in the private sector employment report this morning, although you know, jobs added to the previous month so it's hard to get a real read on that. i think we are starting to see some of that if you just look at the timing. for example, cornell put out a study saying we are already seeing kind of a second wave of layoffs so they found more than 30% of the workers who were brought back after being laid off were then laid off again for a second time, and you know, unfortunately, it kind of makes sense for what people were predicting would happen by the first week in august, where we are now, a lot of people said if you took out a ppp loan, that's about the time you would have worked through it, right, then you need more. so it is an extension there, is it an extension of the enhanced unemployment benefits, you know, that remains to be seen.
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but we do know that timing-wise, a lot of these businesses probably figure they can buy themselves enough time to get to about now. now they're here and they have tough decisions to make again. neil: if i can switch gears a little, we are learning, jessica, i will bounce this off of you, joe biden is not going to milwaukee to give his speech, i don't know where he will give it, presumably wilmington, delaware. we do know the president will skip out on making his big speech in either north carolina or florida. it's just not happening. he will probably do it from the white house. but it is yet another reminder of the shrinking of these conventions this year. what do you make of that and the impact, who it hurts more? >> i think that it would actually hurt biden more than it would hurt president trump, who does have a larger bully pulpit available to him at any time. he can go have a press conference and all the news networks are going to carry it. we will see where he gives his speech from.
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not sure if there's some regulation about whether he can do it on white house grounds and that would be a violation of the hatch act. but i think joe biden needs to do his -- neil: by the way, why would that be a violation if that's where he lives? i just want to be curious. i'm not right or left on this. it's where he lives. he's president of the united states. >> no, no. yes, he shall live there will in next january. i just don't know if because it would be a campaign event, you are not allowed to campaign on white house grounds as far as i know. but he could give -- i have no objection to him doing whatever is legal. that is obviously his right. just saying joe biden needs to do more work to make sure he remains visible in all of this and also that he makes a strong case for why he picked the vp that he is going to pick. usually we see them at the convention together holding hands up in the air saying this is your ticket, look to us to take you into november, and he's not going to be able to do that. as of now, we have seen very little of him with potential
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picks like kamala harris, elizabeth warren, val demings, karen bass. so i think he needs to make sure the public is well aware that he has a good relationship with whoever he's running with and the thinking behind him making that selection in the first place. neil: he's playing it safe, edward, i get that. he has a big lead in the polls. but his lead is very similar to the lead hillary clinton enjoyed four years ago over donald trump. we know how that turned out. and this where's waldo strategy where he comes out of his home, makes a brief speech, he's not exactly ripped apart by the media, not that i endorse that but if you are going to go after the president aggressively, you at least can go after the guy who wants to be president, but his argument is it's working for us. are you worried that it continues to work for them? >> yeah. i mean, it has been and you look at the election odds, trump has been plummeting the past few months. the economy was the one area that everybody looked to as being the greatest thing he's
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got going for him. that still remains his only area where he's polling better than biden so biden can be hiding during the where's waldo thing and the president's just not able to show the economic strength that he was claiming before. i think a lot of people need to get back to work, they want to get back to work, and at least from the president's perspective, that's i would say his only hope is to see the economic -- the economy open again and see it humming again. otherwise, biden i think is just going to win by default. neil: we'll see. it's a little early. we'll see. i want to thank all of you. i know we covered a lot of ground. want to keep you up on that. i want to indicate for those of you just joining us, both candidate, this is unprecedented, have never seen anything like it, opting not to make their major speeches at their respective convention sites where they ultimately make those speeches is anyone's guess but it won't be at the convention site. we have never seen that. we came very close with abraham
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of that. take a look. >> if you look at tiktok, we said it's okay if it's bought, if it's bought by a secure american company, they can buy the whole thing instead of 30% which is the american component, but if you buy it, the united states, which is making it possible to buy, because without us, they can't do anything, should be compensated, properly compensated with a very big payment. neil: all right. that's unprecedented. never been done. i talked to a lot of constitutional experts. but, but they say this isn't necessarily a crazy idea, especially if the president fa t facilitates the deal. charlie gasparino has been following this story long before people knew it was a story. charlie, what about that aspect of it? that the u.s. -- i don't know whether it's a finder's fee or agent's fee but gets something out of it? charlie: well, i just spoke with none other than don corleone.
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he says it's perfectly okay in his book to extort a finder's fee. neil: you did not. it's the godfather. charlie: my uncle vito from the bronx says he has no problem with it. this is cockamamie. i just wonder when the attorney general's going to turn to him and say you know, you can't really do this. you can't directly tie a congressional action to a payment. when you directly tie stuff like that, that's when you get into quid pro quo territory. here are some things -- and as you know, that's where illegality happens and that's where this thing could head to court and you know, it becomes very messy. if he's out of office and he does this, i mean, you know, once he's out of office, it could be a real problem for him because he's tying a payment to an official action. again, you know, it doesn't take a legal expert to figure this one out.
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that's called extortion. here's what i would say. as this is going on behind the scenes, by the way, that monetary payment may ultimately come down to the fact that microsoft agrees to pay all the taxes it needs to, it's not going to pull an amazon and try to get out of corporate taxes. just remember, there's a wiggle way out of this which probably is where he's going after attorney general barr sits down with him and reads him the constitution. in any event, we should point out that microsoft right now is still moving ahead with its consideration. there is a huge mountain to climb to buy even half of this, the u.s. portion or all of it. it's a monumental feat because you have to secure the data and algorithm from tiktok, make sure it has nothing to do with the chinese. but they are talking to outside, potential outside investors. i hear the potential purchase of all of it, not just the u.s., is
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something that's bouncing around inside microsoft. is it feasible to buy it all. if you buy the whole thing, say it goes for something like $50 billion, they do have $138 billion in cash and short-term securities on their balance sheet, they can probably pull it off. i hear they're looking at outside investors, potentially private equity. if they really want to do the whole deal, it's a big thing. the positives obviously is if you get into this consumer social media space, this is how news may be transferred in the future, transmitted. you have twitter now, you know. tiktok is -- could be a news vehicle. they could compete with twitter. there's a lot of things they can do with this, particularly if they buy the whole thing. downside is you have to convince the trump administration or any administration that the chinese aren't imbedded in this thing. that's where we are. i would say this. we are in the fifth inning, not the seventh, not the first. they want to do the deal.
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it may prove to be too difficult to do. it may need outside investors. here's one thing i am told from inside microsoft. there is no way they are paying the treasury department as of right now what's strictly defined as a finder's fee. that may change. they may say what the hell, we will give them $5 billion, that's nothing to us. but they would be setting a crazy precedent. i jft oust wonder what attorney general barr is going to sit down and tell the president dude, there's something known as extortion. you can't do that. you're the president. neil: we don't know. first of all, i can't picture him telling the president dude. but he might. they know each other very well. charlie: he might. neil: thank you, charlie. i appreciate it. thank you, my friend. good read on all of this. you know, the back-and-forth on promising vaccines always comes down to this.
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is there something to getting a handle on this thing or build up the body defenses to beat back this thing or give you an immunity that can help you conquer this thing. novavax says it has something like that and there's great excitement in the markets today because it looks like they do. the ceo is next. this is decision tech.
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reason enough for the stock to be surging. dr. stan erck is the novavax president and ceo, joins us right now. doctor, these are very encouraging results and they seem to indicate that there might be a way of using the human body to develop the antibodies and an immunity to the virus itself. how would you explain the significance of your latest trial? >> well, thanks for asking. thanks for having me on. i think we've reached a critical point that we have been working toward for the past six or seven months on this vaccine. we got to the stage where we have gone through all of the pre-clinical animal testing that you do in mice and you do it in non-human primates showing that you get an effective response that's protective and now we have done it in humans and although it was expected, it's always nice to see the outcome. so we announced that yesterday. we have a vaccine that has a
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couple characteristics that make it really special. we think we've got an immune response that addresses both sides of the immune system with a great robust neutralizing response and antibodies, we've got a great t-cell response, the other side of the immune system, and we've got safety, and those are the three criteria. we've got another aspect that makes it really useful not only for u.s. but for global purposes. is the vaccine stable. so we can ship the vaccine at refrigerated temperatures and in established global cold chain and it's just a liquid in a vial that doesn't need to be prepared in any way so there's a lot of characteristics that make us optimistic. neil: you know, doctor, it got such interest, the united states government under that operation
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warp speed program initiated by the president has committed $1.6 billion to your company to develop and maybe even get doses out to the public by early next year. i'm told as well that some of the treatment could be in place as soon as december of this year. can you update me on that? >> well, our goal is, and this is unusual, and of course my colleagues in the industry are trying to do the same thing which is usually you get your clinical data, show that it's safe and effective, then you start scaling up the manufacturing process after that. from day one, we have all been doing this in parallel which is to scale up manufacturing so the product could be ready once we get through the phase three trials that show efficacy. and so we're doing that. we're doing something i think unprecedented which is to transfer our technology to plants in seven different countries and to be manufactured and instruct that scale-up
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process now. so that is targeted to give us, as you suggested, 100 million doses by the first quarter but that means by the fourth quarter, we'll be making tens of millions of doses to achieve that goal and that of course then translates into next year which we think with success on our scale-up that we're doing now is to have one to two billion doses available in calendar year 2021. neil: you know, this comes at a time when a lot of people, you know, always get ahead of themselves, want to know when the doses come out and are made available, who gets them, how are they priced, and also comes at a time when certainly in this country, when polled on the subject, a lot of americans, four out of ten in one survey, would be reluctant to take it. what do you make of that? >> well, it's disappointing.
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the anti-vax group is i think justified in their concerns. my obligation and our company's obligation is to demonstrate that our vaccine is safe, and in lots of people. thatt the clinical trials are designed to do. we have to communicate that. we need the health care system in the united states, whether it's cdc or nih or local state governments to educate, people need to be educated on the safety of these vaccines, so it's going to be a joint effort. neil: one thing that does seem to be a familiar theme, i don't know ultimately what will prove victorious in attacking this virus, is using your body's own defenses, immunity, to tackle it. there are variations of that, i get that. but is it your sense that that will be the key here, that our
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own body working with these various vaccines, yours chief among them, will find a way to stop this thing, prevent this thing? >> my view, it's a lot of people's view that the only way to get out of this pandemic is through vaccination. it's the only way. social distancing is helpful in slowing it down, vaccinations is going to be required to get rid of this pandemic. neil: you know, i believe it, and this does indirectly relate to you, doctor so if you will indulge me. university of connecticut football team had suspended its season, it's not going to have a season now. i remember i think it was the coach, he was saying i don't have it word for word, saying that well, until they come up with a vaccine it's just too risky. so when you see schools going about plans to resume sports, resume classes, there's always an element of risk. i understand that.
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but are we being too jumpy about it? are we not acknowledging the risk when people recongregate there will be a spike in cases and waiting for a vaccine to come, but you could be waiting awhile. maybe not in your case, but to stop everything, waiting for that. do you think that's wise? >> well, that's actually somebody else's call. i have to admit that what we are experts at is developing a vaccine and not all of the social interactions. so i really am not an expert on that. neil: i was trying to get you at a weak moment and get you to wade into politics a little bit. you didn't take my bait. stepping back from all of this, when you look at the whole world and how it's going and the spikes in cases here and there, do you think it's changed our view? we god forbid get another wave of this or down the road, yet
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another dangerous virus that has morphed into something akin to this worldwide, that our response should always be the same response? how do you feel about the way the world right now continues to handle this? >> well, again, let's go from a vaccine point of view. so we've been doing this, we didn't just start making a pandemic vaccine in january of this year. we have been doing it for the decade i have been involved with this company. this is actually our third coronavirus vaccine. we had something called sars which most people have heard about, middle east respiratory syndrome, mers, there's the ebola outbreak, pandemic flu strains coming about. we have made six or seven different vaccines for emerging infectious diseases because if they had gotten to the point, you know, you would need a vaccine, it got to this point. all those efforts in the past were in a way just practice
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because the sars went away, mers has not been -- hasn't developed around the globe and some of the pandemic strains people were worried about went away over time or short period of time. but there will be more strains and whether it's coronavirus or influenza that will come about, we have to be prepared and get a vaccine out as quickly as possible. we're learning. you know, unfortunately, it's a big learning experiment. but everybody is learning and i think everybody's going to get better at it. we are going to get better at stockpiling supplies and making vaccines. neil: finally, sir, i appreciate your taking the time, what antibodies and whathave you, there's another camp that says don't assume that antibodies last forever or stay the same way or immunity can stay in place forever. i think even dr. fauci had hinted at that and didn't want people to think whether it was yours or others that are working on similar remedies that it's a
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magic bullet. what do you say to that crowd? >> so it's true, some vaccines work for a lifetime. some, many of the childhood vaccinations you get last for a lifetime. flu, of course, is the opposite of that. you need a new flu shot every year. for boosting. and this coronavirus, we just don't have enough knowledge. it may take just like flu, it may take, it may become seasonal and we may need a seasonal covid vaccine. it's possible you could put, you know, a flu vaccine in combination with a covid vaccine and have single injection every year before the quote flu season. we don't know. neil: all right. it's been a real pleasure talking to you. dr. stan erck, novavax president and ceo. he would not take my political bait. kudos to him for not doing that. again, some very promising technologies and treatments in the offing.
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we are out of resources. when we look at the stimulus package in washington now, there really needs to be a restaurant relief element to it. it's disastrous. think about this. they say let's deliver alcohol. you go out and buy containers, you buy beer in bottles and cans so it's deliverable. you change your website, train your staff, put it all together. then a few weeks later they say you can't do that anymore. it's a double whammy. we are investing even greater to try to sustain ourselves, then our legs are being pulled out from under us. there's an interesting vision forward i would like to give you, if i can. we are going to lose i believe about 50% of our restaurants. i do believe in pent-up demand. we talked a few days ago about how i think when people get the vaccine, the next thing they are going to do is see their friends, go out to dinner at bars and enjoy themselves. think about this. pent-up demand creates a surge in the marketplace months from
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now but demand, seating capacity is down 50%. think of how the industry comes out of this, with greater potential demand and a capacity of 50%, isn't that sort of boom town? isn't there reason to believe in the restaurant industry and invest in it and support it to get us to that point? neil: that's a very good point. it's a dumb question but i wanted to bounce it off you. i noticed a lot of these eating establishments obviously have limited indoor dining, you know, in new jersey it's like no indoor dining. it's all outdoor dining. but some have combined it in some areas where they allow both so that they are very darned close to full capacity between chairs and tables they put outside, the limited capacity they allow inside. obviously not that many can take advantage of that given their location and all but what do you make of those lucky enough to offer both? >> obviously, they are more fortunate but still, they are sitting at 50% capacity with the
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same rent, the same utility cost, the same insurance costs and all other fixed costs. it's a fight of survival. we have discussed how -- i believe we lose about 6% more every month that this continues. i really think that we need to think about not only stimulus packages but reopening packages. i really think that when we take a look at the economic packages that are being put together now, certainly restaurant relief is worthwhile because the industry i believe comes back strongly after this but also, not only revenues and payroll credits to sustain us through this, but making sure businesses have the resources to restart after this is equally as critical. neil: yeah. they're not part of the stimulus package they're kicking around now. does that worry you? >> of course it worries me. we are the largest employer in america, the restaurant industry, other than the federal government. can we think of an industry,
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less important to invest in, less important to protect? it makes no sense, the payroll tax impact, the impact on state revenues, federal revenues. it's massive. neil: yeah. you're right, my friend. john tapper, hang in there. thank you very much. you never forget your friends and your colleagues in this business. i'm very impressed with that. the bar rescue host and tough love, tough words for our politicians. don't forget us, guys. don't forget us. meanwhile, when we come back, the latest on that horrific explosion in beirut. forget about what started it. just digging out. after this. you say the customer's make their own rules.
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neil: still digging out of the rubble nearly 24 hours after that explosion in beirut. forget about what caused it, what triggered it. just digging out of it and the horrific things you find as you do. it gets messy. trey? reporter: neil, good afternoon. the lebanese people woke up this morning surveying the damage from this massive blast in beirut yesterday. the red cross says more than 100 people are dead and thousands injured. we do know that according to some images we have seen on the
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ground, rescue crews are picking through twisted metal, broken glass and splintered wood. they have been searching for survivors. beirut has entered a two-week state of emergency while hospitals remain completely overwhelmed at this hour. last night, you even saw patients being treated in the parking lots. you can see in some new video how strong the explosion was as a priest was livestreaming a mass and pieces of the ceiling started to fall on him. this blast was felt more than 100 miles away in cyprus. this is an extremely difficult situation. one interview with the governor in beirut really underscores the devastation. he was equating it to the blast in hiroshima and he choked back tears. we do know some allies of lebanon have offered aid but also some adversaries. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu was offering his condolences today and reiterated that the israelis are willing to provide aid to lebanon. the official explanation for what caused this was an explosion of a stockpile of ammonium nitrate. we know this substance in itself
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is not combustible so it could have acted as an oxygen source for something else to explode. it could have also been giving off vapors as we saw in previous disasters with this substance but lebanese authorities say today and for the week to come, they are going to be conducting an investigation and local media reports indicate a number of officials in beirut are under house arrest as they search for more answers about what caused this deadly blast. neil? neil: you know, you correctly reported a deadly blast because they don't know what was behind it but the president last night was talking about this explosion being a terrible attack and that some other generals had told him that. we don't know of any generals who have said that publicly. they might have said just that to him privately. do you know of any suspicions that this was indeed an attack as the president seemed to say last night? reporter: right now, there is no evidence supporting president trump's claim that this was an
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attack or a bomb that was placed in the port of beirut. there were some pentagon officials overnight speaking with fox news who supported that, saying there are no claims internally that this was a bomb or an attack. no one seems to know what the president was talking about there when he spoke about that during that press briefing in the james brady briefing room at the white house yesterday. there are some serious concerns, though, in the region this evening about security implications, about the president of the united states claiming that this could have been an attack because as we have seen with previous explosions in lebanon, and also neighboring syria, the country behind most of those explosions in recent months has been israel, where we are right now, and the israeli government has been very clear, the sources we have spoken with over the past 24 hours in western intelligence and also the israeli government have denied any involvement, so there are some serious implications about making a claim that it was an attack or a bomb, but again, there is no
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evidence this evening saying this is anything but an accident in beirut. neil? neil: very good reporting, my friend. thank you very very much. we will keep you posted on these developments in beirut, where every major country in the region including israel has offered any and all help necessary for lebanon to deal with this. stay with us. and etfs for any amount you choose instead of buying by the share. all with no commissions. stocks by the slice from fidelity. get your slice today.
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