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they want to cap command staff pay and abolish a team of officers that just helped get homeless residents off the streets. the council's decision would come despite several hundred people gathering in seattle this weekend to rally in support of police officers, antifa thugs burning an american flag nearby as they did so and reportedly assaulted a pro-police protester and a photographer. just another day of democracy, seattle style. left-wing violence also carried out this weekend in other large democrat-run cities. insurrectionists rioting in portland. that's right, the law enforcement, federal law enforcement officers left just hike they said they would -- like they said they would. the protesters, well, not doing nearly so well. they continue to be violent, to loot, to vandalize, and everyone has forgotten what they are

demonstrating about at moments of, well, quieter moments than these you see on your screen. thieves scurrying around the city of chicago. 21 people shot at a cookout in washington d.c. they killed 1 person. and new york city, its 1,000th shooting victim of this year. also tonight more of the deep state's lies and deceit revealed. documents showing how the fbi lied to the senate intelligence committee in 2018 about the reliability of the phony steele dossier. that's right, the one that the fbi used to launch their investigation of a presidential candidate. but senator lindsey graham doesn't seem willing to question any senators about how that all came to be, who the fbi briefer was to the senate intel committee. he wants to ask rather publicly

who it was and see what the fbi says, i guess. and president trump once again putting americans first. president trump fed up with the radical dems' tactics, signing executive orders this weekend to provide support and relief to 18 million americans out of jobs and who need help quickly. the radical dems decided they didn't need help at all. the president's executive order provides $400 a week in supplemental unemployment payments, student loan relief through december 31st, eviction protection for renters and homeowners and a payroll tax holiday for those making under $100,000 through the end of the year. president trump's move met with the usual disdain and drivel of the radical dems and rinos, some of them at least in washington. house speaker nancy pelosi and rino senator ben sasse

harmonizing their rhesus dance of president trump -- resistance of president trump. both calling the president's orders, quote-unquote, unconstitutional slop. president trump today responded on twitter tweeting this in part: rino ben sasse has gone rogue again. this foolishness plays right into the hands of the radical left dems. and the president reminding sasse that it was he who came to the president seeking his support for his election. well, joining us tonight is the vice president of the united states, mike pence. and, mr. vice president, it is always great to see you -- >> good to be back, lou. lou: -- and to have the opportunity to talk with you. >> thank you. lou: may i start with, or first of all, the executive orders -- >> yes. lou: because that is so important to millions of americans who would have no help whatsoever from the radical dems. four weeks of pure stonewalling,

slow-rolling and indifference to the needs of americans who are hurting. your thoughts. >> well, what the american people saw this weekend was once again the decisive leadership of president donald trump. after literally weeks of refusing to come to the table, refusing to negotiate in good faith when we're seeing our economy beginning to reopen -- last friday we saw 1.8 million jobs added to this economy, but there's still many millions of americans that needed payroll tax relief, an extension of unemployment insurance, and yet the democrats were willing to let those things fall by the wayside as they continue to advance their big government, massive spending bill that speaker pelosi passed many weeks ago on capitol hill. but the president said enough is enough, he took executive action. we were deferring the paw roll tax -- payroll tax through the end of this year. that's money in the pocket for

working americanings. lou: right. >> but then he also used his authority as president to extend unemployment insurance benefits in a fiscally responsible way. we're asking states to pay for 25%, but it's $400 a week more to people who haven't found work yet in this economy can have that, plus help for young people going to school, student loan relief, eviction relief for working americans. this is a president that said while the radical left continues to dominate the democratic party, the democrats continue to play games on capitol hill. president trump's going to take action to put america first. lou: in taking action, as you say, to put americans first, how soon will it be that they will be getting actual relief? how soon will people have money? how soon will they have help in deferring or perhaps giving them time to catch up on payments that would make evictions and

foreclosures a moot point? >> well, the president's executive action about evictions, about student loans takes effect the moment that he signs it. but today on our weekly conference call with all the nation's governors, we assured them that the unemployment insurance benefits should be being implemented immediately. we also told them that they can use roughly $80 billion in cares act funding that hasn't been drawn down by states yet to pay their portion of the extension of unemployment insurance. look, a lot of americans are hurting despite the fact that we have lost 22 million jobs at the height of this pandemic and as of this last week have added 9 million americans back to the rolls of working people in this country, there's many more americans that need help. the president said we're not going to wait on nancy pelosi and chuck schumer anymore, we're going to extend unemployment insurance benefits. the department of labor and finishly are working to make

that -- treasury are working to make that a reality and working that effort to defer payroll tax collections to the end of this year. again, this is just another example of where president trump said, look, if you're not willing to come to the table and negotiate in a way that puts americans first, we're going to take action so that americans cannot be used as pawns in the democrats' effort to push another massive, big government spending bill. lou: you know, mr. vice president, we're looking at cities that are erupting in violence, continue to erupt in many cases whether it's chicago or portland, and some of those states have got democrat city the councils as well as mayors and democratic governors, and i was just thinking as you were talking, do you hear from any of those democrat governors saying, no, no, mr. vice president, tell mr. trump that we don't want the money for our citizens, we don't want immediate help for the people who are hurting? do you ever hear them say, no,

please, just follow along with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, and we can catch up with you maybe in september or october? >> lou finish.-- lou -- that'd e a first. you know, i used to be a governor, and i respect the role that governors play and have played especially throughout this coronavirus pandemic. what i consistently hear from governors is how grateful they are that this president has literally spared no expense. we've surged billions of dollars to our states, to our wonderful health care workers that we've provided the kind of resources and medicines and ppe and testing to meet this moment. and what i heard today on that conference call with governors is that they want to see the congress act. look, president trump's made out clear in addition to the executive action that he's taken, we'd like to send another round of checks to the american people. remember, it was $1200 per

american, $3400 per family. the president's very open to doing that. we want to get,ting you know, more support for businesses, the paycheck protection program and other programs that have allowed businesses to weather the storm of the coronavirus. and we want to get our schools open, lou. and that's why the president's call for $105 billion to make it possible to open up our k-12 schools, our universities. and we said to the governors today, it's time for them to pick up the phone and call nancy pelosi, call chuck schumer and tell them to get off the dime, get back to the table and let's get a deal done. but, you know, not the kind of deal that speaker pelosi passed earlier in the house of representatives. i heard the other day that the bill they passed actually mentions marijuana more than it mentions jobs. and the american people don't want some pork barrel bill coming out of the congress when we've got real needs for working families, we've got needs to get our schools open. and we're literally calling on

every governor, especially democrat governors across the country, to call on members of their party in congress to say let's get to the table, let's get a deal done that puts americans first. lou: well, we're hearing words that some of these governors are deeply disappointed that schumer and pelosi haven't been able to get them a bailout for their, basically, bankrupt systems. this administration is not going to provide that kind of relief, are you, if there is to be a later negotiation? >> look, the president's made it very clear, there's going to be no bailout for badly run states in this country. i mean, the truth is the that many states run by democrats for decades have run up massive deficits, massive debt. and i heard the other day that nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are calling for a trillion

dollars through our states when in fact, literally, you know, we've got on the table, you know, more than $100 billion for education, another $100 billion to help our states. but president trump has made it clear we're not going to let liberal democrats and the radical left use the coronavirus pandemic to bail out states that have been running deficits and debt for decades. we're going to stand up for taxpayers, stand up for fiscal responsibility even while we get resources to states at the point of the need. you know, one of the points that the treasury secretary made today to the governors was we've literally been calling governors to ask specifically what they need to implement a back-to-school plan. and the president's request for $105 billion is specifically tau tau -- tailored to the actual per-student cost of returning to school in a safe and responsible way. but no bailouts, lou. you know, this isn't a blank check for badly run states and especially those badly run states run by liberal democrats

for decades. lou: what do you put the odds at right now that governors across the country will join with the administration and move to open up those schools? because whether it's anthony fauci, you name it, people from the left, medical experts are saying we need to open those schools. there is a fear of a lost generation here if we're going to continue this. what's your sense of the odds? >> lou, we've got to get our kids back to school. i mean, the experts left, right and center have all recognized that distance learning is no replacement for in the classroom, in-person learning. we don't want our kids to fall behind academically. but, you know, what the american people also recognize is kids with special needs, kids with learning disabilities, they get those services at school. and tens of millions of american kids get food and nutritional

supplements at school. and so it's far beyond academic. there are real costs to america's kids, and that doesn't even take into account the costs on working families. you know, many governors, even some democrat governors are now beginning to announce that they support a return to back to school because they recognize that for an awful lot of americans if their kids can't go back to school, they can't go back to work. i heard a number the other day that only 20% of single parents in america can telework. that means 80% of single parents to go back to work, have to go back to work, they've got to have their kids back in school. that's why president trump from very early on has made it clear we've got to get our kids back. and just so everybody knows, the cdc issued a series of new guide posts a couple of weeks ago, but the first thing they issued was

a paper about how it is in the public health interest of our kids to be back in school. so the cdc says for the health of our kids, we say for their academic health, for their future and for working families, we've got to get our kids back to school. it's one more reason why the democrats on capitol hill need to come back to the table. we want to make sure our states have the resources as well as the guidance to safely reopen our schools. they can, we're going to continue to stand for it and fight for it on behalf of working families everywhere. lou: well, good for you and the american people desperately need the leadership of this administration to make this happen. this is -- do you have any impression besides the fact that dick durbin beginning to agree with you on a host of issues, it seems, at least informally, and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi are are saying maybe they do want to talk now -- do you think

they're getting the idea that they have been running here for weeks a video of an elect trump/pence 2020 campaign? because when you see everything that they're doing, trying to keep schools closed, letting violence run rampant in the cities that are so devastated by decades of democrat-run administrations in their municipalities, the payoff is pretty ugly, pretty violent, and why would anyone in the world want a democrat in the white house? >> well -- [laughter] you know, the choice in this election's never been clearer, and the stakes have never been higher. in president donald trump, you have someone who's kept more promises that he made to the american people; rebuild our military, revive the economy, fought for free and fair trade, appointed conservatives to our courts. but joe biden and the radical left and the party of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi is all

about taking the country all the way a back in the opposite direction. more defense cuts, $4 trillion in higher taxes, a $2 trillion green new deal, economic surrender to china. we heard this weekend from speaker pelosi, she actually said that china would prefer joe biden to win the upcoming election, and that's because no one's been tougher on china than president donald trump. and in one issue after another, the american people are tired of the politics on capitol hill, playing politics in the midst of this pandemic, and i truly do believe that come november 3rd we're going to win great victory when we win four more years for president donald trump. and i also believe the american people see what a democratic majority in the house of representative it is means, and i think we've got a fighting chance not only to re-election a republican senate, but to elect a new republican majority in the house of representatives and move our nation forward.

lou: the attorney general over this weekend, you know, making a comment about black lives matter protests, the violence that we're seeing in those democrat-run cities. i want to just run, if i may, a sound bite for the audience to show what the attorney general of the united states now says about black lives matter and the movement that they have unleashed on the country. it is not, it is not failing by any stretch of the imagination. it is having great influence at least within certain communities and certain age groups. let's roll that from attorney general william barr, please. >> they are a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism, communism. they're essentially bolsheviks. their tactics are fascistic. it's a new form of urban

guerrilla warfare. lou: and this president has weeks and weeks and weeks ago been saying we have to control this violence and establish law and order in these democrat-run cities. the democrats aren't doing it, and the national left-wing media is excoriating the president because he wants to preserve the lives of citizens, protect communities and establish law and order. where do we go from here? where -- this president has proved his leadership. this is a tough, tough issue i,, as you well know, where does the administration going with this now? >> president trumps has no higher priority than the safety and security of the american people, lou. and i want to also you that we're going to -- i want to promise you that we're going to continue to surge resources and personnel into cities that are deeply impacted like chicago,

seattle, portland and other communities where -- and new york city -- where literally the local leadership has utterly failed to quell the violence on the streets. now, that being said, all along the way remember when shortly after the murder of george floyd on the streets of minneapolis we saw the mayhem there? president trump called on the governor of minnesota to deploy the national guard. he said either you do it or we will. governor of minnesota did just that and brought, brought peace to the streets. he took a strong stand. we said we're not going to let, we're not going to let antifa and these radical, riotist protesters destroy the federal courthouse in portland, oregon. we deployed federal personnel there to protect the courthouse stand against the rioters. he made it clear to the governor of oregon that either she steps up to secure the streets of portland or we would, and the governor of oregon did that. they deployed local law enforcement are, they deployed the state police.

the rioting has continued, but we'll continue to call on local officials to do their job and, most importantly, let the courageous men in law enforcement at the state and local level do their job. make no mistake about it whether it's operation legend where we're deploying federal resources from the justice department, we are not going to stand by while these rioters and these radical leftists tear apart our cities x. this president's prepared to take actions necessary. if states and local communities fail to act to protect their citizens, we will. lou: vice president mike pence, always great to sit down and talk with you and appreciate your time, sir. vice president pence. up next, the president scheduled to hold a news briefing this hour. we'll be bringing his news conference to you live. also does senator lindsey graham really want to get to the bottom of obamagate?

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to coast on the saw lemm radio -- salem radio network. senator lindsey graham this weekend revealing draft fbi talking points used by the fbi to lie to the senate intelligence committee in february of 2018 about the reliability of the steele dossier. senator graham, always a man with a plan and at least two points of view on anything, says he's going to get to the bottom of this by writing to fbi director christopher wray. senator graham may not even need that letter though. the fbi talking points released with by his committee are dated february 14, 2018. according to previously released documents from the department of justice and everybody there over at the senate judiciary committee let the senator know that the former associate deputy the attorney general, scott schools, sent an e-mail on the very same day saying that he will be at the senate select

committee on intelligence with andy like most of the day. now, it would not be a stretch of inferential language to assume andy e is none other than former acting fbi director andrew mccabe. perhaps we here at "lou dobbs tonight" are solving this mystery. well, the truth is that the conservative treehouse has been solving this mystery for quite only time. we would urge the committee to go over and read through their offerings. it always a pays off. volume three of the senate intelligence committee's own russia report also shows andy mccabe was interviewed by the committee on, are you ready for this date, senator graham? february 14, 2018. graham's office tells us they have no comment on our research. but assured us his letter to

christopher wray is in the works. yes, sir sir'. we also asked graham's office why he hasn't just walked over, asked the head of the senate intelligence committee just who it was from the fbi that briefed the committee. we've yet to hear. we'll be talking with judicial watch president tom fitton about this and much more right after these quick messages. stay with us, we're waiting for the president. ♪ as a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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♪ ♪ lou: joining us tonight, i am always pleased to say, is tom fitton, the president of judicial watch. he has a new book, "a republic under assault: the left's ongoing attack on american freedom," available for preto order, and preorder it, you should. we highly recommend it to you. tom, good to have you with us. >> hi, lou. lou: senator graham seems to not be paying attention. he really wants to know who was briefing the senate intelligence

committee in february of 2018, and we just told him. and conservative treehouse has told him and any number of people have told him. the names are out there. but even all that aside, why not just walk down the way and say to good senator from north carolina who chairs the committee -- or did, he's on temporary repose -- what the heck happened in the briefing? why not ask mitch mcconnell, the chief of staff? what is going on in the senate judiciary committee under this extraordinary person? >> well, it's been years since the yous discuss department and the fbi have been thumbing their nose at congress and the senate, and there's been no pushback, and they've been made fools of, generally speaking, there in the senate. and if i were senator graham, i'd call in the fbi director

tomorrow to answer questions. he's responsible for this. and the idea that, you know, if there's any question, you've got evidence of a climb that took place, and that's an emergency. so he should bring the fbi director in immediately. you also have simultaneously senator johnson issuing a subpoena to the fbi director on crossfire hurricane. they're so obstruction -- the cover-up continues under director wray. it's a real problem that even his friends in the senate are having to subpoena him. lou: yeah, it's pretty stunning that wray is a friend of the fbi director, but i'm sure that he's actually worried a little bit, because he saw that withering examination of sally yates by the senator from south carolina. probably thinks he couldn't hold up to that pressure. tom, you get the last quick word here on where we're headed with

obamagate. >> well, if he's going to give sally yates and rod rosenstein a pass, then the hearings are a fraud. they're obviously on their face fraudulent, so he shouldn't have given these folks a pass. maybe turn over the hearings to senator lee or senator cruz, someone like that. lou: right. yeah. well, there it is. and i had such high hopes for senator graham when he started going after the origins of obamagate. i thought it'd be hard-hitting, and i'm a little disappointed. tom fitton, thanks for being with us, head of judicial watch. up next, red storm rising. china's military increasing the level of their aggression in the south china quay, the strait of taiwan as well. michael pillsbury with me next. my new book "the trump century," available for preorder now at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com,

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some of the fleet turning off their gps systems to avoid detection. ecuador's navy says that fleet is now made up of 340 commercial fishing vessels. china's military becoming increasingly aggressive amid talks in taipei today between health and human services secretary alex azar and the president of taiwan. azar leading a delegation ordered there by president trump, and chinese fighter jets today briefly crossed into taiwanese air pace as they frequently do. satellite images also reportedly show china's pla deploying amphibious with armoredded vehicles and mobile missile launches in, near the south china sea. joining us tonight is dr. michael pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute. mike, we're going to be cramped,

as always, for time. i want to go, first, to what you make of the increasing military activity by the pla in the south china sea. >> lou, i think it's a mistake for some people to dismiss the chinese activities as just bluff or rhetoric. china has a long history, about 50, 60 years of using force for psychological shock effect on their neighbors. if they try that on president trump and on american units, i think it could lead to really serious reactions. so i'm quite concerned about these increasing chinese exercises. lou: and i want to turn to also an important report that you produced for the hudson institute on president trump's china strategy. give us a sense of your findings and thoughts as well as where we can all go to read up on it.

>> well, at the hudson web site, you just dial in guide to trump china strategy. what'll come up is 200 statements from the president himself to all of his administration on what i think is a very clear, coherent china policy. each department puts this kind of thing out, but no one's ever done it for the whole administration. to the president and his team encouraged me, and they actually picked out things they thought were significant to assemble this report. you can search it, you can use it for speeches, you can use it to write your own book. it's like the definitive guide of most important things president trump and his team have been is saying about china policy. it's quite comprehensive. it includes outer space, the arctic, human rights, technology, huawei, and it's free. best of all part, it's free. [laughter] lou: and best of all, led by michael pistol burr true at -- pillsbury at the hudson

institute. we'll do that. we're getting a two minute warning from the president, he's going to be stepping up here, but your sense of what you heard from a group of chinese members of important think tanks, their tone in discussing the u.s./china relations. >> yes. i try and stay in touch with the chinese, lou, and this is quite surprising. they're now beginning to talk about a war between the u.s. and china. it's beyond just trade war or human rights war. they're talking about the americans are pushing us too much, they're crowding us all around our borders, and china may have to turn to the use of force to make its political points. i really never heard this kind of direct threat before from chinese scholars who advise xi jinping. so it should be taken very seriously. lou: and there, speaking of pressing, they're pressing by bringing that commercial fishing

fleet -- >> yes. lou: -- into the heritage wildlife, the galapagos. it's outrageous, and the world should not stand for it for a minute. michael pillsbury, thanks very much. we'll talk to you soon, perhaps as early as tomorrow, i understand it. dr. michael pillsbury. thanks so much, we appreciate it. the president coming up soon, we're -- he's holding a press conference. will be holding a press conference at the white house. incredible video tonight of a close call for a woman in louisiana, and it was all caught on a doorbell camera. [background sounds] >> oh, my god! lou: when i say close call, i mean close call. that lightning bolt struck a tree near the woman's house. debris sent flying through the air and landing within inches of her face. the woman just stepping outside her home at the very, very

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♪ ♪ lou: welcome back. joined now by larry elder, host of the larry elder show on the salem radio network, executive producer of the documentary, "uncle tom." and as you know, larry, we're jammed here waiting for the president as well. very quickly -- >> i know. lou: -- your thoughts about -- well, larry, you're not going to believe this, the president is walking out. he and i have been choreographing this for weeks now. [laughter] i've got work to do. let's listen in. >> -- talking about some mail-in voting that just was really just the news, half a million absentee ballot applications were sent all across the astronaut of virginia include -- the state of virginia including to many dead people. this was an unprecedented mailing flub.

mail-in voting efforts, it's a disaster. all over virginia, half a million votes. so that's something you have to think about. we don't want to have a rigged election, i know that. and you have to be very careful when you mention, as you constantly do, russia or you mention china, iran or others that attack our election system. and when you have this mail-in voting, it's a, it's very susceptible. this is something that can be easily attacked by foreign countries and by, frankly, democrats and by republicans. and i think that it's something that you have to start thinking about very seriously. our system's not equipped for it. the post office is not equipped for it. and people should vote like they did in world war i and world war ii, and your numbers will be in

90 days or less, your numbers will be very good, i think, much better on the coronavirus or the china virus. but it's something you have to look at and say this is just crazy. this just came out, half a million incorrect ballot applications sent all over the state of virginia to many people that weren't living. they had some sent to pets, dogs. this is what we're going to get into, and it's going to be a disaster. and it's going to be thought of very poorly. it's going the hurt our country. after our news conference saturday night and the pro-growth announcement, pro-jobs, pro-health safety, executive orders, the stock market went up 358 points today. so we, we issued those executive orders, and the stock market went up 358 points today. it's quite a reaction. the dow jones and the s&p 500

are now up 50% since march. 50%. think if youd had money in there, if you'd put your money in in in march, 50%. the nasdaq index continues to set new records. it's been up over 4 -- 14 times, new record in nasdaq. and the s&p 500 and the dow, dow jones, are going to be, i mean, the way they're going, it looks like they're just going to be about topping records hopefully soon. >> [inaudible] >> excuse me? [inaudible conversations] lou: ladies and gentlemen, we just received word from our john roberts at the white house, you're seeing the president ten away from the podium and return to other part of the white

house. shots have been, shots have been fired apparently at the white house, at least reports of those shots. i want to bring in larry elder, host of the larry elder show on the salem radio network and also the executive producer of the documentary, "uncle tom." larry, this is a very difficult moment because we don't know precisely what's happened. we know, according to john roberts, that there are reports of shots fired. we know absolutely nothing other than that. but within the context of this country right now seeing so much violence in so many cities across the nation, this is, it would be deeply troubling no matter what. but in the context of this year and the direction this country is going, it is, it's profoundly disturbing. your thoughts. >> it is profoundly disturbing,

lou, but we don't know what happened, obviously. we do know that the president is safe, obviously, because he was just speaking. but whatever happens, maybe this is a sign that shows the country left, right and in the middle we all are americans first. we all need to come together no matter how you feel about this president, no matter how you feel about this administration. he was duly elected, he is an american president, and he ought not be displaced until he is duly elected out of office. so i hope whatever happens, it's rallying dry to america -- cry to america that our democracy is fragile. we have to fight for it, and when bad things happen let's remember we have a lot more in common than we are apart. we are all americans, we are all one country. lou: and we're waiting here, larry, as we are talking for more word. i want to ask our producers right now, have we got anything, any kind of contact right now from john roberts or any of our

folks at the white house that they can give us anything more? as soon as you've got that, please let me know. you're right, i mean, there's so much focus in this country right now on that which is intended to divide us. we're, you know, we talk about our differences, our commonalities. our commonalities outweigh the differences by orders of magnitude. we have permitted this to divide us, the bolsheviks as the attorney general said. larry, you're talking about black lives matter, antifa. but this country right now, you started by saying, you know, no matter how you feel about this president, those are words that i couldn't imagine anyone sawing 50 years ago -- saying 50 years ago no matter how you feel about this president. a lot of emotion raging in the

1960s as well, but people didn't talk about, necessarily, their ideology being driven by a like or a hatred or a dislike of a president. many didn't like kennedy. many didn't like johnson. many didn't like nixon. but it wasn't an animating feature of the ideological polls in the country then, and it was a polarized nation, without question. this is quite something different we're experiencing now, as if emotion should be actionable for anyone based on ideology. >> well, that's right. and i think part of it is because this president, unlike any other president, has taken on the media and has popularized the expression fake news. and i think, therefore, he's made an enemy out of the media. remember the adage, never make an enemy out of somebody who can

buy ink by the barrel? well, he's made an enemy out of an try. and remember 25% of the democrats didn't even come to his inauguration, and several of them have not come to new of his state of the union speeches. i've never seen the like of that. i'm hoping no matter what happens, maybe just maybe this is a sign that we should remember we are all americans first. ronald reagan was not very popular. there was an attempt on his life, as you well know, and his popularity went up because people realized this was a great guy no matter how you felt about him, he was still an american. after 9/11 we all joined together. sometimes it takes a galvanizing, outside event to remind americans that we have a lot more in common than we have apart. but thankfully, we know that at least president trump -- right now -- is fine. lou: yeah. he is, obviously, safe and well guarded within the white house. we also have just received a report that the briefing room has been locked down, which is

quite, quite a moment. i can't recall that ever happening, but there it is. and the north lawn, reports of activity and secret service around that area, again, without any knowledge of what is actually going on there. but again, all of this began about five minutes ago when reports of shots fired near the white house. john roberts reporting from the white house, and within seconds of his report, the president escorted from the briefing room by secret service very calmly and very quietly what you see are journalists, assembled in the press briefing room and they don't have any, right now, they are locked down there till further notice.

let me turn back to what you were saying, these outside events. we've had a, we've had a string since may when george floyd was killed while in custody of the minneapolis police department that was used to, to create demonstrations and protests, that ultimately became, very quickly became riots and looting and nights of extraordinary violence. we've had those outside events, those external events almost every night in some part of this country ever since. your thoughts? >> even with that, lou, even that, you look at poll numbers, you ask blacks do they want police funding to be at same level or higher? ask whites the same question, independents the same question. all three groups say yes. we want it to be about the same or higher. lou: right. larry i have to end this the way

we began this conversation during this unusual hour. >> no problem. lou: i have to interrapt you, we'll return to the white house briefing room. we understand they will resume here in about 30 seconds. as i said 30 seconds, larry i was informed by my producer not yet, not yet. but we are going to say thank you. we appreciate your time and your patience and understanding with us, larry, and look forward to talking with you again soon. thanks so much. larry elder. that is going to be it for us unless the president actually walks into that briefing room to continue the briefing. meanwhile the reporters remain in lockdown. they're being told they will resume the briefing. the issue is, just when, not as soon as we were first led to believe. tomorrow night here we hope you will join us, sidney powell, john solomon, and charlie hurt will be among our guests tomorrow.

we couldn't leave you without reminding you about my new book, "the trump century," how our president changed the course of history forever. available for preorder. get your copy at amazon.com. thanks for being with us. good night from sussex. ♪. elizabeth: good evening. we begin with breaking news. reports of sounds of shots and gunfire near the white house. the presser was halted. here is the president back in. let's listen. president trump: there was a shooting outside of the white house. seems to be well under control. i would like to thank the secret service for doing their always quick and very effective work but there was an actual shooting and somebody has been taken to the hospital. i don't know the condition of the person. seems that the person was, was shot by secret service. so we'll see