nd a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity. maria: my thanks to dagen, ryan and jonathan. have a great day, everybody. see you again tomorrow. "varney & company" begins right now. stu, take it away. stuart: good morning, maria. good morning, everyone. i don't know whether this is a reaction to kamala harris, i don't know whether it's a reaction to a more positive virus news, and i don't know if it's got anything to do with the stimulus talks, which mitch mcconnell says are in stalemate. but i can tell you this. stocks are moving up this morning, making another run at record levels. look at this. the dow bouncing back from tuesday's late selloff, going to be up about 300. the s&p holding close to all-time highs. that's going to be up. the nasdaq, big tech coming back this morning.

nasdaq's going to be up about 60 at the opening bell. from the low of march 23rd to the close yesterday, the value of all publicly traded companies has gone up 12.2 trillion. you have never seen anything like that before. next, tesla. musk does it again. grabs the headlines with a five for one stock split. that may bring in more retail investors. doesn't change tesla's business, but the stock is up big-time premarket. a gain of 84 bucks per share. apple announced a four for one stock split a week ago and apple this morning is leading the big tech rebound. it's up four bucks. then there's this. the big ten, now the pac-12 have canceled their football seasons. looks grim for the college game. this is a financial story. colleges will lose billions. that virus changed everything, didn't it? larry kudlow joins us again later. what does he think of a $12

trillion increase in the value of american business in less than five months? he's got something to say about it. he's on the show. wednesday, august 12th. "varney & company" is about to begin. stuart: let's get right at it. stock of the day, tesla, way up this morning. susan, that is a very big $84 gain. why is it up so much? susan: stock split. five for one starting at the end of this month which is usually a bullish sign that the company is expecting the stock to go up again. it also makes it cheaper for average investors to afford the stock. $1400 might be hard to afford for some, but easier when it gets down to around $300 a share. stock splits don't change the value of a stock or the company. doesn't really change much for tesla given it's not in the dow jones industrials which is price weighted while the nasdaq and s&p 500 are market cap weighted.

stock splits have been popular this summer, as you indicated. apple's splitting four for one near the end of august. apple's stock rallied 10% since that announcement but probably more to do with their record june earnings. tesla still waiting to hear if it will be included in the s&p 500 after four quarters of profit but then you have battery day upcoming on september 22nd. i guess those that are hoping for tesla's stock to eventually fall finally got their way. maybe not in the way they had hoped for but still, it's not value created. stuart: that's true. back in the day, if a stock -- in my day -- if a stock got to say $100 a share, they split. nowadays, you can go to what, $2,000, $3,000 a share like amazon, and stay unsplit. susan: look at google's stock, amazon's stock. might be a warning shot to them that maybe they should split their stock. stuart: i wonder if musk will set a trend on that. hard to keep up with vaccine news these days. it comes so thick and fast.

president trump says the government has reached a deal with moderna for their vaccine. lauren, details, please? lauren: all right. the stock is up 7% as a result. moderna will get $1.5 billion from the u.s. to make 100 million doses of their vaccine. americans as a result get it for free. the government has the right to buy an additional 400 million doses. in all, the government has spent $9 billion on vaccines and research. moderna has received about $2.5 billion of that which if you were to price out the cost of a vaccine per dose, it's $25 but because the government is buying this, it is free for us. when it comes out hopefully this year. stuart: it looks like that may be a positive influence on the market as well, because we are still up 300 points for the dow. good positive vaccine news. the other big story of the day, joe biden choosing kamala harris to be his running mate. let's bring in market watcher shah gilani. does the kamala pick affect the

markets at all, in your opinion? >> i think it does. i think we are seeing a reflection of that this morning. i think the futures are indicating that the moderate pick as opposed to one that could have been a far left pick, as vice presidential candidate -- stuart: wait, shah gilani. >> -- is a positive. stuart: you think this is a moderate pick? what's moderate about -- >> yes. stuart: -- the policy outlines we have already received from kamala harris? >> relative to i think what elizabeth warren might have put forward, relative to some of the other candidates, relative to a more vehiclxing susan rice cann dad candidacy, she is more moderate. in the democrat party, she is considered moderate. stuart: okay. if she's considered moderate and that's a plus for the market, why else, what other reason do we have for a 300 point rally for the dow, again, close to 28,000?

>> the markets had been moving higher. they have been moving higher on the prospect of stimulus even though we haven't gotten a package, even though congress may recess. we know we are going to get the stimulus package between $1 trillion and $3 trillion. we know that's coming. markets know that. they already baked that in. that's a positive. the prospect of a potential vaccine whether out of russia or coming somewhere else is out there and the market hopes that is going to come sooner rather than later. see there's no reason for stocks to back off. yesterday seemed a little odd to me, the selloff in the late afternoon. we are seeing that made up this morning in the futures and i don't see any reason, any major hurdles in the market's way right now. stuart: did you buy the big tech dip? >> not enough. not enough. bought some of the big tech stocks for sure but really, not enough. i had my moments as we rose up. i got actually greater conviction on the way up. i certainly didn't buy near the bottom. i was apprehensive about the rise and then when we cleared certain hurdles, we went in

pretty well but not well enough, because the market continues to power higher. i didn't see retail coming in as much as it has, driving markets as high as they have. great for retail investors. they have done exceptionally well. that didn't catch my attention until later in the rally. now we know retail is still leading, retail is starting to lead the cyclicals higher. there's a lot moreoro go a itinutinutliout invesestoesavee etai iestorsesrsndrsndndheirnd pick st: so we argoarine arg ly o reh the>> is>>hingintopp.pp veav aav fairl clean cleante s ah eafd o o us hsilake mew m hig, f.ro mroney off.f. e haveavav trill tns of d drsr siing iinin minoney mon m m mt . a of of dry dryowderowde towdew eially if bonds el continue to trade lower and yields higher. that money will come more into the market because the bond holders who got into bonds late are now going to start to see

losses. if rates continue higher. stuart: out this morning, mortgage applications numbers. ashley, details, please. ashley: not staggering, up 2% this past week. but it is up 22% over the same period last year. so that's not bad, is it not. we have seen of course two straight weeks of record low mortgage rates that's helped to juice the market. mortgage application, by the way, also volume rose 6.8% over last week. what about the refinances with all these record lows? yes, they jumped, the refis jumped 9% over the previous week and up 47% year over year. by the way, the refis make up about 65% of all mortgage activity and that is the highest level since april.

people deciding to jump off the fence and say yeah, i'm going to refinance my mortgage and get a lower monthly payment. stuart: got it. thanks, ash. look at gold, please. yesterday it had its biggest one-day drop in more than seven years. it had been something of a flight to safety during the pandemic but vaccine hopes rising, new coronavirus cases tapering off and gold is down again. i should tell you the consumer price index ticked up sharply this morning, suggesting a tick up in inflation, but gold, down again, three bucks. $1,943. one more time. american business gained, added more than $12 trillion in value just since the end of march 23rd. that's extraordinary. again, what does larry kudlow think about that? i'm asking him because he is on the show in the 11:00 hour this morning. larry kudlow coming up. we show it to you every day. live look at sixth avenue, new york city. deserted, almost.

it's picking up just a little. national retail chains struggling more than ever and some are abandoning manhattan. that's the story. we will tell you who's leaving. it is official. kamala harris joins joe biden as his running mate but do you remember when biden said this early in the campaign. roll it. >> whomever i pick is capable of immediately being president because i'm an old guy, okay? no, but i'm serious. stuart: that's honest, i guess. who are democrats really voting for this november? is kamala harris really at the top of the ticket? good question. facebook cracking down on political content that they say is disguised as news. we have the ceo of parler on the show today. how many users has he picked up from people ditching facebook? one more time, futures, solid rally as "varney & company" rolls on. ♪

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open up in about 15 minutes. sea of green, left-hand side of the screen. let's talk tiktok. a new report says they track user data, nothing unusual for these social media giants, but they're accused of using a method that is banned by google. susan, can you make me understand this? susan: think of the unique 12-di12 digit code, which can't be reset or altered and allows apps to track consumer behavior. you can only change the id by getting a new phone. apple locked down access to these ids in 2013. google did it with android in 2015. but tiktok was tracking users through these ids up until november last year, according to the "wall street journal" and the way they concealed their tracks was through unusual layered code, according to this report. tiktok says the november update ended this type of tracking.

still, if you think about it, it adds fuel to the white house argument that tiktok is tracking its users and sending that data back to beijing. tiktok has until the middle of september to find a buyer or it will be banned in the u.s. according to that executive order. microsoft is still the front-runner. just some news that just crossed on tiktok. this is interesting because given the fact we do have that executive order, the new york yankees and their broadcast partner yes network has just signed a deal for exclusive content and strategic partnership with tiktok. that's because they want to access and bring america's favorite pasttime to fans globally since tiktok has around 800 million global users. stuart: that deal goes through even though tiktok could be banned and/or sold? susan: yes. that's what i found interesting. stuart: it is interesting. thank you, susan. staying on social media, look at facebook. the stock is up this morning. they are cracking down on political content that they say is disguised as local news.

gives them more freedom in advertising, i guess. their pressure on political speech is pushing people off their platform. some of them are going to places like parler which apparently does not have quite the same rules. john matz is with us, the ceo of parler. john, you are a private company so you don't have to answer this question, but tell me please how many users have you added this year? >> so i'm not entirely sure right now for this year but we are up to 3.3 million total users. most of them coming in this year. stuart: what do you offer that twitter or facebook do not? >> we are a solution to a lot of the problems that are going on with big tech right now. they seem to be taking a stance that they want more and more moderation, whereas we have a policy where we are saying we don't believe in moderation, we believe in a community jury, we

believe in people's right to decide on their own and have a conversation amongst themselves about what they feel is right and wrong, and what they feel is newsworthy and isn't. we don't feel we should be arbiters of that and we leave that up to the community to decide and give them the tools to do that. it's a true free speech platform, one that believes in privacy and keeping user data secure and safe and not sharing it. stuart: does parler censor political speech at all? >> no. not at all. we actually, we allow people to create their own communities in a way by choosing who to follow and opting in to condition tete like. we don't push any content. it creates a really nice community where people are more engaged than on other platforms. we are seeing huge conversion numbers for articles, huge conversion numbers for people's advertising political or otherwise, so it's really a

powerful platform. stuart: you making money? >> actually, since the last time we have spoken, we are doing very well. we have sold out completely our ads for the last month and a half. all of our ad space. stuart: okay. thanks for joining us this morning. thanks for your honesty. you didn't have to tell me how many users you've got but you did and we appreciate that. john matze, good man. thanks very much. see you soon. thank you. have a look at twitter. up today $37 a share. they are now allowing users to control who replies to their tweets. they are giving users some control over the conversations on their page. you, twitter user, can choose from one of three groups to allow you to respond. okay. you can choose everyone, only people you follow, or only people you mention in your tweet. got that? i don't have twitter and now you know why. let's get to airbnb.

now, there's a brand new industry which i would love to invest in and susan, i think i'm going to have my chance because i think they are going for an ipo, right? susan: well, still might not happen but they are expected to file for ipo this month and the shares could trade before the end of the year and it could be a traditional listing where the company sells shares to the public and raises money in the process, or they could go for a direct listing where no money is raised. slack and spotify chose the direct listing route. one more option might be the new trend of spacs where airbnb merges with a blank check company, nikola is an example of that. morgan stanley, goldman sachs will lead this offering. airbnb was ready to go public earlier this year but then coronavirus derailed the plans. airbnb was worth around $31 billion at the start of this year but then had to raise emergency funding at the height of covid at nearly half that valuation of $18 billion. we will see what type of valuation they go public at. they also had to lay off around

a quarter of their staff. even if they file for a listing there's no guarantee that they will go ahead, because they pulled it again in march, remember, when they were set to file as well. high-flying unicorn ipos have done fairly well so far this year. that might be encouraging. lemonade has tripled from its ipo price. so has nikola. stuart: i like the idea of being able to invest as an ordinary individual in what i think is a very promising and brand new industry. an ipo from airbnb -- susan: even though travel has changed during covid and been decimated? stuart: i like the idea. i think airbnb's business model is intriguing, to say the least. i might like to be part of that at some point in the future. this gives me an opportunity. it's like uber. i wanted an opportunity to go into that kind of ride sharing business. it's brand new. i think it's way of the future. i may or may not go into airbnb but i like the idea of being able to do it. susan: how has uber shareholders been rewarded?

not well since its ipo. stuart: that is true. but i didn't buy into uber yet, did i? as you well know. all right. let's check futures, please. we are up across the board nearly 300 points higher for the dow. we will take you to wall street in just a moment. times square. let's have a look at that. goodness me. how deserted can you get? that is the dead center of new york city. ♪ businesses are starting to bounce back. but what if you could do better than that? like adapt. discover. deliver. in new ways. to new customers. what if you could come back stronger? faster. better. at comcast business, we want to help you not just bounce back. but bounce forward. that's why we're helping you stay ahead

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easy. stuart: airlines popped yesterday, up a bit more today. a rise in travel has been reported but not today. listen to this. tsa says about 560,000 people flew on tuesday. that actually is down from monday and of course, it's down 75% from last year, same day. our next guest says he's not -- he uses airline travel as an indicator for our economic recovery. the gentleman saying that is the gentleman on the right-hand side of your screen. his name is ray wang, frequent guest on the program. are you using daily travel, tsa security checks, is that your indicator for the strength of the recovery? >> it is. it's one of the big ones that i

look at. normally that number is at 2.5 million on peak so sundays and mondays are the top two days for travel, and you saw the drop happen on tuesday. that makes sense. but we're up from 80,000, that was like the low point in april, to almost 830,000 which is actually a huge improvement. we're about one-third where we are normally at for travel capacity but when you look deeper into the numbers, those are tourists. those aren't business travelers. the business travelers might make up 15% of all airline flights, but they are 75% of the profit. it's the same for the hotel business as well. so it's one good indicator to figure out when that rotation happens between going into tech, going into cyclicals, going into tech and coming back. stuart: you're not going to be happy until we've got a million passengers a day, are you? >> i won't be. that million, if that happens in the fall season, that's not the summer travel, that's not the leisure travel, the people that are going nuts in covid quarantine. that's business travel.

i'm wondering if the business travel will come up because of the work from home restrictions and the number of companies offering work from home. that's going to be an important number to follow but at a million, we will see a resurgence in terms of travel activity and in terms of the travel stocks. stuart: i don't think that business travel is going to come back anywhere near like it was six months ago. how about you? >> i agree. i think if we can hold steady about a million, some of those companies, if you think about the hotels, the airlines, you think about the airports, the businesses that service the airports around that area, that will come back but not to that same level. 2.5 million tsa passengers a day, that's crazy to imagine right now. if we get to 1, 1.5, we are on our way. stuart: hold on for a second. i'm going to look at the opening of the market and get back to you in a second for your views on big tech. i think it's bouncing back a bit today. right. we've got about 20 odd seconds to go, then we will open the market. it is wednesday morning, it is august 12th. i keep saying this.

already. doesn't time fly. yes, sir, it really does. i think that has made a huge difference to our perception of time because one day looks much like another. can't seem to slow down. here we are, august 12th already. we are off and running on the big board. it is 9:30 eastern. here we go. i'm expecting to see a lot of green all over the place. right now, i've got the dow up nearly 1% right in the first few seconds of business. 27 of the dow 30 are in the green. this is a broad-based rally so far. dow up .9%. show me the s&p 500. probably a similar gain. it's up .83% higher. nice gain. the nasdaq composite, let's see how the techs are doing. that is up nearly 1%. so techs are doing well and bouncing back a little. positive virus news. that helps the market. we have positive virus news from moderna. the administration is buying 100

million virus vaccine doses. they are going to pay $1.5 billion for them. moderna's stock up 7% on that news. now, let's have a look at big tech. it's been sliding recently, especially apple, but this morning, bounce-back. microsoft is up, apple, alphabet, amazon, facebook, all of them on the upside. not a huge bounce-back by any means. ray wang, come back in again, please. is it time to buy apple? big drop yesterday. >> yeah, actually i think it's a good time because of buying on the dips. we still have a replacement cycle, refresh cycle coming for the iphone which will be announced later in september, october, when they do that launch. and you know, i think there's a lot going for apple because of the services business. services is about 22% of their business at the moment. that's going to grow to somewhere between a third of their business going forward so it's not just about iphone sales anymore. it's also about the recurring monetization on services revenue. stuart: let's go through real fast.

amazon, it has been dipping. would you buy it now? >> definitely. it is the post-pandemic winner. they are winning not just in e-commerce, they are winning in streaming services. they also have the ability to win, i mean, they are winning on the cloud and making more ground on the cloud than other players. and there's a lot more potential, especially as companies are trying to figure out how to get into contactless commerce and e-commerce. stuart: facebook. >> facebook is the interesting one. i'm worried about the regulation. they are still a one-trick pony on digital ads. if they were to get into commerce or open up some of the other lines of business in terms of monetization, i think the stock would actually go up higher. they have done great. the monthly active users are there. they have been growing users. the more people stay at home, the more people are using facebook. stuart: google. >> so google has a lot of interesting businesses. they have been growing the cloud business, that's the one to watch. they are at about $4 billion in revenue in the last quarter. that part of the business will

be the strongest growth area for google for some time to come even though the ad business dropped a little. stuart: i'm going through them one at a time and you like the lot. last one here is microsoft. you still like that? >> i do. i think microsoft has a lot going for it. it's not just the corporate area. take the tiktok conversation out of it, xbox is on fire. people have done a great job with the cloud. some of their applications there. office 365 is doing very well for microsoft. overall, they have played a very good game and are still growing. stuart: one last one. tesla. five for one stock split. does that explain this huge move, up $72 a share? explain it to me. >> someone tweeted to me earlier about this and i agree. this is the robin hood effect. this is kind of a hey, let's go after the short sellers, you know. we are going to make the stock so easy to buy, every retail investor will come in. i think that's what he did with the five to one stock split. the fundamentals are interesting there. you view tesla as a data

company, there's a lot of room to go from full self-driving to their insurance agency to what they are doing with the satellites. there's a lot going on at tesla. stuart: you covered it all. thank you very much indeed. see you again soon. ray wang, everyone. thank you. look at lyft, please, on your screen now. it's up 75 cents but that's 2.5%. they report after the bell today. susan, what should we be looking for? susan: lowest revenues in three years, according to analysts. uber said ride hailing was down 75% from march to june last week. those are similar numbers that lyft should also be announcing but lyft for its part doesn't have the food delivery to make up for any of the slack, whereas uber does at uber eats. it's more of a pure play whether it comes to ride hailing meaning that's pretty much all it does. the good news is lyft should report lower cash burn owing in parts to cost cutting in the spring. lyft laying off around 1,000 of its staff. last earnings, lyft said some u.s. markets were beginning to lift from the bottom. we will see what they say this time around and are they

sticking to their timeline of profitability by the end of next year. they stuck to it last quarter which was surprising, outside of a lot of expenses but still, the stock is way below its ipo offer price of $72. yeah. stuart: uber went out, their ipo price was i think $45. susan: but look at the similar levels in their price. obviously lyft has been decimated a lot more because they don't have the food delivery to hang on. stuart: you got it. okay. smile direct club. i'm going to call them a dental company. hope they don't mind. they report after the bell today. ashley, could they be a lockdown winner? ashley: well, they could be. the outlook is for a loss of 13 cents a share on revenue of around $83 million which, by the way, would be down 57%. listen, this stock just ipo'ed last fall. it was priced at $23 but closed

on its first day down at $17 and never recovered from there. it's been under $10 for awhile. in fact, the highest, it got back to $19.48 a share back in september of last year but it has been the target of some law makers and yes, the american association of orthodontists who say this do-it-yourself style of model violates dental law. smile direct has kicked back and said no, it does not, you just don't like people coming in on your turf. regardless, the company continues to expand. it's gone into singapore and austria, how about that for two bizarre new places. they continue to push out. they have also partnered with a company that has a lot more physical dental offices so in other words, your first visit could be to a dentist's office. they do all the checks, then you get on to the program. it continues to move on. we will see what they report after the bell. stuart: we shall indeed. thank you. check the big board, please. six minutes' worth of business in, we are up 250 points, close

to 28,000 on the dow. here's an indicator. this is fascinating. look at this. the yield on the ten-year treasury. yesterday i think it was .55 or .56. this morning it's at .67%. i'm not sure what that tells you about the financial markets but that is a gigantic move. the price of gold, down again this morning. the green tells me i'm wrong. it's up two bucks now at $1948. having been down huge yesterday. bitcoin, $11,500 a coin. oil, now there's a recovery indicator. it's up to $42 a barrel this morning. indicating a stronger recovery than we have been looking for. all right. 9:37. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says stimulus talks have hit a stalemate. will that slow down the recovery? i will ask larry kudlow what he thinks about that. did you see this tweet?

the "new york times" painting kamala harris as a pragmatic moderate. does her record really reflect that? we will discuss. and remember, when she and joe biden clashed over race in the first debate? we will remind you. roll tape. >> you know, there was a little girl in california, she was bussed to school every day, and that little girl was me. >> that's a mischaracterization of my position across the board. i did not praise racists. stuart: well, joe biden picked her. she tried to destroy him during the debate and almost succeeded. what's going to happen in this election? we will try to figure it out for you after this. ♪

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stuart: look at home depot, please. another all-time high.

home depot is at $277 a share. i'll call them a virus winner. now watch this, please. >> amazon already has 200 million square feet of distribution in the united states alone with another 100 million square feet under development so they are real competitive advantages, incredible logistics at amazon. they have a multi-tiered distribution system. they are in every community in america. these mall-based locations are really centrally located for them. stuart: 200 million square feet of distribution center already, looking for another hundred million. we think we know where some of that extra space is going to come. susan, where is it? susan: yeah. thinking about detroit and the old michigan state fairgrounds which has been abandoned now for decades. amazon is spending $16 million to turn the site into a $400 million distribution center.

this is according to the detroit free press. it comes with 1200 jobs paying $15 an hour. construction on the project could begin and start as early as october. that's if the detroit city council approves the plans by next month, september. could open as soon as 2022 and really helps out the michigan economy, which had a 14% jobless rate in the month of june. amazon right now employs over 125,000 workers in its 75 fulfillment centers across the u.s. and they also have tried to hire 175,000 since covid as online retail continues to boom for amazon. stuart: it's not just booming. amazon has taken over the retail space, if i can put it like that, isn't it? it's extraordinary. absolutely extraordinary. i forget what proportion of online business they've got -- susan: 40%. according to e-marketer. have you ever been in these fulfillment centers? this a they are so automated and modern, it's incredible. stuart: i should have bought the stock. susan: here we go. wait until it splits.

how about that? stuart: let's talk about amazon going into these empty malls, empty department stores in malls, and turning them into distribution centers. retail watcher kristin benz is with us. i'm sure that works for amazon. you go in and take over an old sears or jc penney but does it revitalize the malls? >> well, at this point, they need anything. so it's kind of a win/win for simon property group. they need an anchor to come in because they have dead malls. this could work for jc penney because they have a ton of real estate and need a bailout. when you think about it, actually, if amazon was smart which they are very clever, this is a very good idea for them to bring in either a distribution center or possibly grocery. stuart: simon property group, they are the largest mall operator in america. they are going to get somebody to pay the rent on these defunct department stores.

i'm told they are the best-run managers of malls in the country. would you agree with that? on the phone: i would agree with that. they are in the middle of a paradigm shift. someone is definitely think over at simon property group. brooks brothers, not so much. that's not exactly an acquisition i would think would be a great idea right now, as we all know that, you know, i love seersucker as much as the next guy but people aren't wearing suits and ties so much anymore. that doesn't make sense. but pairing up with amazon and penney does make sense. they need someone with volume and someone to pay the rent. okay? that's what they're looking for. we all know that amazon has plenty of volume. stuart: and amazon will pay the rent. real fast, that's true. thanks very much for joining us. we appreciate it always. thank you. on the phone: my pleasure. thank you so much. stuart: do you remember these guys? new jersey gym owners who defied governor murphy's lockdown? they just had their business license revoked. more on that story coming up for

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stuart: well, news on microsoft. they are pushing back the release date of their popular game, the video game halo, pushing it back to next year. can you tell me why they're doing that, lauren? lauren: i sure can. well, the reason is the pandemic, which has impacted production. so if you look at the last halo5, 1,000 different contributors worked together to make the new game. try coordinating that on zoom. it's difficult. why is this a big deal? well, halo and the series is a marquee franchise for the xbox console, and microsoft is launching a new console this fall, and, well, its appeal could be dimmed if you don't have many new games to play on it. so this could hurt microsoft in the end. stuart: that is fascinating, because that's an example where working from home actually doesn't work very well. that's interesting stuff. lauren: exactly. stuart: i've got more news on m amazon. they are expanding in the gaming

industry? tell me more. susan: here's a good example that amazon doesn't win in everything that they do. so they had this high profile video game launch, they made their own video game called crucible, they launched it but no one was playing it. instead, they are going to make it i guess more democratic and make it more available for everybody when it comes to their twitch prime service. this is their gaming service, streaming service, which they bought twitch for back in 2014 for $1 billion. now you don't have to have a twitch account in order to play prime twitch. does that make sense to you? it's hard to explain for people that are not part of the gaming industry. but look, we know video games is a booming, booming business. close to 2.9 trillion will be spent on gaming this year. stuart: you, susan li, are an ageist. you are always having a go at me because of my age. susan: that is so inappropriate. that is not true. my mother would say that. stuart: moving along, i've got a

number for you. this is about the video game industry. it is a pandemic winner. i want to bring laura martin in for this, senior analyst at needham and company, joins us now. laura, i'm told the video game industry just in the united states of america will generate $37 billion worth of revenue this year. is that accurate? >> it is, because we've got gaming playtimes up 350%, extra three hours a week viewing time is also up about 70%, where you watch other people play video games, advertising revenue is up a lot because live sports has been turned off in this country so people are advertising on the video game space and it's a perfect demographic. young men 18 to 34, generally playing these games hours a day, and therefore, they are really valuable target audience to reach. stuart: i wish i had that audience.

do people actually pay to watch other people play a video game? >> so i would say sure they do, because there is actually a mechanism called tipping, if you really like somebody that you are listening to while they play a video game, you can tip them directly. it's like a payment or like, you know, basically recognition of their talent and the fact you enjoy them so you can tip directly but during those streaming hours, those streamers often will play video games eight hours a day, so yeah, they make advertising revenue on that programming. stuart: that's amazing. on the screen right now, we've got electronic arts at the top, $138 a share. activision blizzard at $80. i believe you like both of those stocks. do you believe they will go higher than their current level? >> i do. because i think one of the things the pandemic did is get new people into the gaming universe. activision says 50% of its

gamers now are women which means the market is expanding for consumers that play video games, then secondly, they are trying more games because they are locked at home with fewer things to do as an alternative so they are playing more, and 40% of betters are new to betting on e-sports which is competitive video games. i think that that betting engagement will actually increase overall interest in engagement by an older demographic, as you bet on these young players winning games. stuart: laura, i bet you constantly run into people like me, older people, who are blown away by $37 billion worth of business in one year for video games. you come across people like me all the time in your business, don't you? >> i look at video games as a stealth media industry and as the biggest media beneficiary of covid that people are missing. stuart: you're right. laura, i'm out of time but that was fascinating. laura martin, needham. thanks very much for joining us.

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this morning, we have larry kudlow coming up on the show. one big number i will talk about with him, the value of all american business has gone up $12 trillion since march. i want to know what he has to say about that. i'm sure he will love it. now this. kamala harris will have a big impact on the biden campaign. it is almost a ticket of coequals. after all she could soon be president. now look, i mean no disrespect but as "the wall street journal" puts it today, joe biden would be 78 on inauguration day and his mental acuity is declining. to put it bluntly, if joe wins, kamala could sit in the oval office, a vote for biden is just as much a vote for marries. senator harris i think has been selected entirely on her identity. she is a black woman. race and gender put her on the

ticket. that is the nature of politics in the democratic party. identity rules. any criticism will be immediately considered racist or sexist. debate should not be stifled by this. we should discuss policy openly and freely. so what would a harris presidency actually do? she is a radical. she would decriminalize border crossing. that sounds like open borders. "medicare for all." not quite. she would allow some private health insurance. she likes the green new deal. say good-bye to energy independence. she would study reparations for slavery. and of course, she would tax the rich and beat up big corporations. that is the most progressive agenda of any candidate in recent memory. senator harris is 55. she is dynamic and energetic. huge contrasts with joe biden. she will be out on the campaign trail. joe will stay protected. she will be out front.

kamala harris is the one to watch. like so much in 2020, we have never seen anything like this before. second hour of "varney & company," about to begin. ♪ >> it has to be demonstrated that whomever i pick is two things, one, is capable of immediately being president because i'm an old guy, okay? [laughter]. no, but i'm serious. stuart: don't have to take my wore for it. joe biden said it himself. liz peek with us this morning. related off the bat, what is your take on the selection of kamala harris? >> first of all, stuart, i think you're being very diplomatic i think this is the phoniest platform we've seen in a long time or phoniest team running. joe biden is basically a

moderate who is desperately trying to look like a progressive to win over bernie sanders voters. kamala harris has been rated one of the most progressive members of congress trying to come across as a moderate. they have both flip-flopped on any critical issues to voters. hard to know where they stand or what they would look like in the oval office. stuart: do you agree with me, it is almost a coequal ticket? >> absolutely. stuart: vote for biden is just as vote for kamala harris? >> absolutely. very high percentage of americans, more than the majority think that biden will not serve out his first term. it is not even a question if he only serves one term who is in the wings to run again. it is really who might take over midway through his first term. i think absolutely, kamala harris will come under a lot of scrutiny whether she really is capable of being president. by the way, stuart, another flaw

in this choice, in my view, is that it was done mainly to shore up biden's popularity with young black voters who are not very keen on biden. kamala harris has quite visibly wiped out with young plaque voters. she has not done well because of her background as a prosecutor and then district attorney in california. so honestly on so many fronts i think this is "the new york times" has said this is safe choice, maybe it is. i don't think it is a very successful one. stuart: we have your opinion on record. liz peek, thank you very much indeed. see you soon. >> thank you. stuart: to the markets, we're still up nicely, 220 on the dow. look at that nasdaq go. up 1 1/2%, big gain there. john lonski is with us this morning. john, a lot of commentators on the program said we are awash in cash. there is trillions out there. don't know how many trillions. some people put it at five

trillion dollars cash out there. where does that cash go? >> that cash will go towards the purchase of stocks, maybe corporate bonds. a lot of that cash is also going to be spent by businesses and households, by businesses on capital equipment, perhaps new hires and by households of course on numerous goods and services. let's not forget we have a housing boom underway. just got the latest number on homebuyer mortgage applications. up by more than 21% for a third straight week. stuart: that is a big deal. now you say that the economy is learning how to cope with the virus, cope with the pandemic. in what way is the economy, in what way are businesses coping with this? >> we have some hard evidence of that regarding just what took place recently. you know, in the month of july many were worried that these major macro indicators would be on the weak side because of

resurgent covid-19. in the very large populous states of california, texas and florida. guess what? that didn't happen. we had faster growth by unit sales of motor vehicles. we added, what, 1 1/2 million jobs to payrolls. later this week, we will get a report on retail sales that should show growth above average growth of 2% for the month this is far different from what happened back in march and april when a state like new york was struck hard by covid. i think we're learning how to live with this. we're learning not to panic. we're learning what we can do and what we can't do. stuart: that is one of the major reasons why the market is up close to record levels? >> yes. and would it be surprising by end of the week, the s&p 500, the overall u.s. equity market set as new record lie. after all there is a lot of cash on the sidelines.

these ultralow interest rates may be with us for a while. perhaps there is no choice other than to put money in equities or at least keep it there. stuart: we hear it. john lonski, thank you very much. see you soon. >> my pleasure. stuart: we would like to give you virus vaccine news. we got more of it. look at moderna. only up 1.8% now. had an up much more than that earlier. johnson & johnson is up again. the two of them teamed up on a vaccine deal. listen to what the president said about it. roll tape. >> i'm pleased to joins we have reached an agreement with moderna to manufacture and deliver 100 million doses of their coronavirus vaccine candidate. recently we secured partnerships with johnson & johnson as well as sanofi and gsx to support the large-scale manufacturing of their vaccines. doing very well on those vaccines. tremendous us promise in every single one of them.

they are years ahead of schedule. stuart: you know, all this positive vaccine news is clearly a factor on the market. when ever you get something positive about a vaccine, when it it is available, when it is coming, how effective it is. up goes the market, regardless which company is making the report. there are 160 companies worldwide working on a virus vaccine and it shows in the market. facebook, they're getting more serious about electronic payments. they're launching a division called facebook financial. all right, susan. let's see if you can make me understand this one. susan: okay. it connects all of facebook's payments projects in one division. libra, the crip cocurrency project, all included together in all facebook payments, right? it was announced by the facebook executive david marcus. wrote a new tweet. bring it up today. we're creating a new group to look at all things payment

headed by a new executive at facebook. i won't get into that. facebook is catching up to apple pay, google pay, venmo, paypal, to keep track of the financial payments on their platform. it makes sense with the delay in that initiative. stuart: thank you, susan. we have breaking news, coming at us right now. edward lawrence. what do you have for me. reporter: balance some of that positive news. boston federal reserve president eric he points out extraordinary monetary fiscal stimulus out in the economy only translated into into modest growth spending there. state has opened early in the south and southwest on economic boost has now faded as the virus came up in that area. he believes now more than ever the virus is tied and linked to the path of economic recovery. he believes those two are very connected. he also says the economic slowdown may continue into the

fall because you add in flu season. in the speech he says this, quote, limited and inconsistent efforts by states to control the virus based on public health guidance are not only placing citizens at unnecessary risk of severe illness and possible death, but they are also likely to prolong the economic downturn. i will add a caveat here. boston federal reserve president is usually more cautious to the downside. he is also not a voting member of the fomc this year. back to you, stu. stuart: thank you very much indeed lawrence. edward i should say. that is negative i would thought for the market. there is no negative impact at this point. he is a non-voting member of course. that news just released literally seconds ago is just hitting the market but it has not yet had a negative impact there. it is official, big 10 and pac 12 have canceled their 2020 college football seasons. huge financial blow to the colleges. they will lose billions on this. we have the full story.

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>> i don't know if necessarily you would say call it a revolt but i'm cone assistantly trying to lead americans to actually fight for their constitutional rights and for small business to actually open safely and securely. they will realize that we can do it better than anybody else? stuart: they were the owners of the atilis gym in new jersey. they were arrested for defying the shutdown. ashley, come in priest, i think they have lost their business license. ashley: they have. they have the mercantile license revoked by local council on a 5-1 vote. they vow to carry on. that was ian smith and frank trumbetti. their business was boarded up.

they broke back into the their own business. they continued to defight governor, phil murphy, saying his executive order to shut down non-essential businesses is not constitutional. now this latest blow, essentially, stu, takes away their license to do business. but they remain defiant. i'm not sure how. they say the fight goes on. they lost this battle. they have yet to lose the war. stuart: got it, asialy, thank you. we cover what we call the changing economy a lot on this program and here is an example. hard seltzer surging in popularity. lauren, do you have the answer for me? how many companies are selling a hard seltzer. lauren: 65 different brands. that is up 10 two years ago. hard seltzer tastes good. fewer calories. men and women like it. and most off premise places where you buy it are shut down,

sales of hard seltzer, unbelievable, all-time high. in four weeks time they rose to $413 million. if you go into a liquor store, say do you have truly or white claw, usually laugh at you, no, we sold out of our recent shipment this is big winner. also younger people promoting it on social media like instagram. research shows it leads to direct consumption. stuart: $413 million of hard seltzer sales in one week, did i get that right? lauren: four weeks, four weeks time. for weeks ending july 11th. stuart: still 100 million a week. that is a lot of money from nowhere. lauren: 10% of the category. if you can't beer and wine. hard seltzer is the 10% of that category. thank you very much indeed. check the market again. rallying nicely. 200 up for the dow. look at the nasdaq go, up 170 points.

let's get back to joe biden's choice of senator kamala harris as his running mate. kiron skinner with us, fox news contributor. in your judgment how far left is kamala harris? >> she is extremely far left because that has been the pathway to her national political standing. so i'm not sure that she was as far left when she held office in california but she is now on the national stage and the way she was able to get there to move progressively to the left, so much so, according to some of the rankings she is the most progressive member of the u.s. senate. that is really hard to imagine that you're even more extreme than bernie sanders. but remember, she signed on to, as a cosponsor of the green new deal. she has endorsed "medicare for all," although she had an alternative plan. she wants to defund the u.s. military, and she doesn't

believe in the kind of energy policy that would allow the jobs that have powered pennsylvania, my home state, and ohio, so this is a big choice for the united states, for american voters at this time. stuart: would you agree that a vote for biden is just as much a vote for campus cam kamala cam harris, because of her position but her age and biden's age? >> yes i do agree with that assessment. in fact, this election will being interesting and unique in that way. as you just put it, stuart, it will be as much about her as it is about biden because he has described himself as a transition president, understanding that he may not make it through the first term. she is going to be looked at with greater scrutiny. i think than most vice-presidential picks and not because she is african-american and not because she is a woman but because she represents an

alternative toward socialism that many americans endorse but many others do not. stuart: in your judgment again is kamala harris going to drag joe biden to the left? >> he has been driven to the left already and i think the fact that he chose her represents where he has been pushed and where he has been willing to go because the joe biden of the 1980s and '90s was a much more centrist political actor who reached across the aisle. he is in a different space now. this is his opportunity to, you know, capture the oval office. it is the only way that i think he and his team believe that he can make it there. she represents it as well. stuart: is the choice of kamala harris is good choice in terms of for president trump? do the odds lengthen for trump's second term or do they shorten because of kamala harris choice?

>> that is, that is a tricky question. i believe that president trump has an excellent chance of re-election regardless of the vice president pick on the democratic side but i do think having an african-american woman on the ticket means that the republicans have a lot of work to do to make their case, which there is a strong case to make on hard imperfect calls, like economic numbers, job numbers. they have got to work harder, not because kamala harris will snatch the black vote. i think black voters are a lot more sophisticated than vice-presidential candidate biden has said. we're not a monolithic group but there is something attractive about having a woman of color as the first, being the first on the ticket. so on the republican side, the case has to be made harder, more in facts and arguments to

counter the identity politics that will take place in a lot of the media in the next two months. stuart: yeah. it will dominate, i believe. kiron skinner, thanks very much for joining us this morning. come back soon. we appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: sure thing. i got news from goldman sachs or at least susan's got the news. susan: we have headlines crossing that goldman sachs might be looking to acquire general motors' credit card business. according to the journal looks like goldman sachs will compete with traditional banks, including barclays interested in gm's credit card business. it's a tough time for the traditional banking plays, like goldman sachs and barclays and jpms. we talked about facebook trying to get bigger when it comes to payments. according to some analysts facebook is going all-in when it comes to fintech, financial tech. that is a 300 billion-dollar industry in two years time. you have to fight against

googles, apples, goldman sachs trying to keep a foothold in that growth industry. stuart: gm stock down on this news. susan: goldman sachs up 1 1/2. stuart: oh, yeah. big deal. we told but the big city exodus. new yorkers are indeed fleeing and which know where they're going and we'll tell you too. we're only halfway through the big show. we have a market rally, 27, 28 of the dow 30 are in the green. we still got larry kudlow coming on the show next hour. stay there please. ♪. this is decision tech. find a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology

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so you can... retire better stuart: the s&p 500 and nasdaq are at highest points so far. that is a rally. gold, last time we checked it was coming back a bit. it is up three bucks, but that doesn't even halfway recover from yesterday's near 80-dollar per ounce drop. we're firmly below 2,000 bucks an. that is the yield on 10-year treasury. .76%, way up from where it was

yesterday. that might not be much to you, but if you're on wall street a movement in the market like that, 10 basis points in 24 hours, that is a huge move, fortunes are won and lost on moves of that kind. 26 of the dow 30 are in the green. 27,900 where we are. 10:30 eastern on a wednesday morning. that means now we find out how much oil we've used and how much we put into storage. and, ash, you have the report? ashley: i do indeed, we're down, a drawdown of 4.5 million barrels, bigger than the 2.8 million that was expected. that infers perhaps more oil is being used. is that a proxy for the economy? we shall see but certainly it puts pressure on oil to move higher because we have less in storage. stuart: it is a economic recovery story actually. 42 bucks a barrel.

42.50 almost. 2% gain, not bad at all. we bring a habit of bringing big city exodus stories because a lot of it is going on. the moving van, united van lines, says there is a 95% rise in people interested leaving new york compared to last year. do you know where they're going, lauren? lauren: one place they're going is philadelphia, in a big way. that is pushing home prices there up 8.4% in june. listen. >> the joke is, when someone is listing the property and they want, say they want a million dollars and we think it is worth 800, just get me somebody from new york. this is a bargain in new york. we hear that all the time. lauren: philly is considered the sixth borough of new york. let me show you other places besides pennsylvania and philadelphia seeing home values urge surge.

idaho, tennessee, wyoming, utah. prices up five to 10% in the last year as you can see there. where are prices falling? how about this? new york, san francisco. they are expected to fall within the next year in cities that are at the heart of the political unrest, civil social unrest we've seen, like portland as well as seattle, stuart. stuart: if you leave new york and go to say philadelphia or the suburbs around philadelphia, you're going to pennsylvania which is sharply lower tax rate than new jersey or new york. lauren: yeah. stuart: that is what is driving this stuff. that is what is driving it. sharply lower tax rates. lauren: it is taxes. for philly and pennsylvania, you feel the of the city and taxes are lower. you save a lot of money of the people in this area, new jersey, new york, you see what is coming out of your paycheck.

and if you work from home you don't necessarily need to commute anymore. stuart: you make good money, and you live in new york city, your tax rate is well above 50%. in other words, the government is taking more than half of your income. i don't know why people put up with it. you can skip town go to philadelphia and you will pay much less than that. all right. i can understand it. i think a lot of people are with me on that. what was that? okay. i've got news on uber and lyft. whose got it? susan: right here, stu. talk about a possible temporary shutdown of uber and lyft in california after that ruling yesterday in the superior court of san francisco which issued, is forcing uber and lyft to now reclassify their drivers as employees and not just independent contractors. we have uber and lyft according to reports they could

temporarily suspend their services in california because of this. now this goes back to the ab-5, assembly bill 5 passed in january of this year which basically is making gig economy players like uber and lyft, along with door dash to reclassify their employees not as independent contractors but employees come with benefits. that includes vacations as well. i should caveat this, uber and lyft have a ballot on the books, on the table, they are hoping to push through in the fall, if passed that would supersede ab-5, uber, lyft, door dash, along with other food delivery companies and gig economy workers and players could actually be exempt from ab-5 having to reclassify their employees. they're talking about a possible temporary shutdown in california. stuart: in my opinion, i think they should leave. susan: that would be hearted. one of their biggest markets and he employ hundreds of thousands of people. stuart: as a point of principle,

california is supposed to be the home of innovation, they're cracking down, they're ruining an innovative business, a brand new business worldwide and they're going out of their way to kill it. i mean just makes my blood boil. susan: also directly deposit as lot of tax into the state coffers as well. silicon valley a big contributor right? accounts, almost 60, 70% of the california economy. leave, leave, get out of there. susan: it will be hard. stuart: i don't care. leave, please. punish california what they're doing. i wonder if brian brenberg agree with me on this? he is from kings college in manhattan. he is laughing because i'm getting hot under the collar. i'm mad as hell about this. california is the home of innovation and they're ruining an innovative business. are you with me here? >> i don't think many people know you drive uber on the side in california on the weekends. you have a personal vested

interest in this thing. i'm with you 100%. we're at moment people are getting impetus to do that. your earlier story about people moving out of new york city, the bulk of the millenial generation is hitting that 30-year-old age where they're getting married and they're starting to have kids, they just got pushed out of cities because of the pandemic, they experience what it is like to not do business in california or new york and they liked it. they liked the quality of life. i think you might get your wish because people have finally tasted what it feels like to have back a little more of that freedom and they liked it. stuart: after all, if you're working from home, you can have your home anywhere. you can live in, you know, you can live anywhere in the united states. you can live almost anywhere in the world and work from home, for an american company on an american project, right? >> there are a lot of people who will do that, stuart. that is clear. here is the problem. let's go back to cities for a

second. folks who can do that, work from home. you have most of the u.s. population who can't work from home. people who are in new york city, in san francisco, trying to make a living. they're dealing with the bad governance. now dealing with people leaving. the mayors in these cities. i don't think they get this they're not hurting the wealthy and not hurting the middle class. they're hurting lower income, lower class individuals because they don't have the opportunities anymore. the economy grinds to a halt. they're stuck where they can't work from home. they can't move as easily. this is the tragedy. the rich can deal with it. it hurts folks who are most vulnerable on the margins of the economy. they are the ones that lose the opportunity. stuart: brian brenberg, right again, brian. see you soon. >> see you, stuart. stuart: thanks very much. the white house and democrats hung up on stimulus spending. is the stalemate slowing the recovery? i'm asking white house top economist larry kudlow. he joins us exclusively in our next hour.

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♪. stuart: oh, yes. i remember, we're playing that song because of a reboot of the hit show, "the fresh prince of bel-air." it is in the works. will smith will be the executive producer. anything more on this, lauren? lauren: it is 24 years later. the new "fresh prince of bel-air" will be a drama. currently in the works. they're shopping it around to streamers, networks, hbo max, peacock. reboots are huge, especially if the original cast is involved. so, yes, that is will smith.

he will not be the fresh prince himself but he will executive produce this drama, called bel-air. it is based on a morgan cooper video. like a fan based video. you're looking at it. it went viral last year t sparked this whole production. a quarter century later we get a new "fresh prince of bel-air." stuart: can't wait, lauren. disney stock here, there is a new story, they're scaling back disney world hours. that starts in september, but they're scaling back the hours. eddie soto is back with us. he is a former disney imagineeer. it has lost the imagine scribing. you can't have the magic of disney with a mask on, no social distancing, get your temperature checked, you lost the magic. >> i can't agree with you more, stuart. magic is killed by hospital practices. they will get the magic back, disney is doing everything they can. stuart: but how?

>> until cruise ships, until you get the hospital practices out of there and screen people at the door with a very high test screening process which basically can deliver a one minute result, so only well people, kind of like the airport, once you're screened for terror, you come into the airport, you're carefree. they're not looking at you again. you feel reassured. part of this is a psychological battle we're fighting. like the movie jaws. people didn't go back in the water. that was a rubber shark. people have to reassure the public it is the safest place on earth and the happiest place on earth this applies to cruise ships. our company is actually working with different technology firms that either use molecular, a breath test, or even possibly, different screening processes that even involve sound waves in order to get a totally safe result and let well people enjoy themselves again. oh, my goodness. stuart: i can understand your point entirely. you're looking for a test with

an immediate result. it is easy to take. >> we found it. stuart: you found it? >> no, there are tests out there but until, they're still in testing. they're still in process but it is very short. we're very close. and the caveat here is capacity. we have to have a one minute test result. stuart: sure. >> so our company assured experiences is applying and vetting these technologies there is snake oil out there too but there is also real science. we're trying to really maximize this forum. imagine the cruise industry, imagine a stadium, you walk through the test, you're clean. so are the employees. now we can get somewhere. so we're close to this. stuart: absolutely. >> we're beginning to apply this and we're waiting on it. so it is very exciting. stuart: that is a wonderful thing, you have got to tell me how far away are we? you say we're close. how close? >> i'm always very careful of this, one of the vendors is talking about in weeks, not months, weeks, they will know if

they can really verify these one minute tests. but then again we test, the company, we have to make sure. every ride, every theme park ride as a different dynamic, stuart as to distancing, how they work. you have to really test these things and make sure what your clients are getting really works. we understand the psychological side. which is why a guest comes back. it is not enough to be just safe or put a machine in the lobby of a four seasons hotel. that's awful. we theme it. we make it fun. we have the guest reassured and knows what they're doing is going to work. it is maybe exciting time. maybe disney is working on the same thing. i don't know what they do. they're very secretive like apple. the magic can come back. we have to come to grips a new normal, regardless of vaccine, people will still have the apprehension i believe, like tsa. look at the terror level. look how many people died in terror, yet we're still testing because people want to feel reassured. that is the whole secret what

make as disney park great, do you think you will have a problem on a ride with your kids? stuart: all right. >> no. stuart: understood. >> safety is job one. stuart: okay. get that test pronto, eddie. >> okay. stuart: that will really work. >> we're going -- stuart: keep in touch. i want to hear any news on this keep in touch. i want to hear the news on this because that would be a door opener. i'm out of time, eddie. thanks for joining us. eddie soto. got you. i'm putting blackstone up on the screen. it is up a little bit this morning. they bought some studio lots. that is interesting. are they just buying the real estate of the studio? susan: if you think about it is a play for streaming. makes sense after covid which obviously changed consumer behavior including yours. blackstone is spending over 1 1/2 billion dollars for 49% stake in three hollywood studio lots. they are betting streaming will only surge from here. the peak in late march and early

april people were binging in excess of 160 billion streaming video minutes per week. eight hours per week people were watching. that is twice last year's level. streaming will grow with hbo max, peacock, apple plus. studios like universal and disney are releasing directly on streaming instead of the big screen. you saw the subscribers numbers for netflix in first six months of the year, in less than a year, disney plus has 60 million subs. that is the future. stuart: they don't a piece of the streaming product. they own the land which the stream something filmed or taped, right? susan: that is in the blackstone playbook. they're good when it comes to real estate. that is how you get into streaming without directly owning, and maybe open risk to some of the streaming companies. stuart: susan, got it. thank you very much indeed. the big 10 and pac 12 officially postponing the 2020

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stuart: we are talking a serious rebound here for the major league technology companies. look at nasdaq, which is now up 200 points. that tells you a lot about big tech. on my little phone here i can tell you apple is up eight bucks. we have got microsoft up five. amazon is up 64. facebook is up six. tesla is up $114 per share. watch them go. big rally. big 10 and pac 12, they will postpone the 2020 football season. ouch. todd piro, college sports will be devastated financially by this, right? >> yeah. you take all the good financial news with the markets today, you leave me with the college football situation. it is from a money perspective, 100% right, you have to think about the perspective of the

schools themselves. they make millions individually and billions collectively from the college football. that money goes to pay for not only athletic departments but goes to schools themselves to help with academics. if you have been to a big-time college football program on gameday, you see the economic engine that is that community. so much money flowing into these towns from tailgates, hotels, restaurants and the like. again billions of dollars lost from those communities which means jobs, which means even more difficulty, coming out of this pandemic. stuart: what a mess. everything changes because of that pandemic. all right. >> it does. not to be complete doom and gloom. you mentioned the postpone meant of the big 10 and pac 12. that includes the your ohio states and mesh against. pac 12, ucla, being a ucla law alum. some say it better not to have a

season because it won't be a losing season like the last few have. still good news, you have the accs, sceecs, big 12s. those are the three big when it comes to college football especially the sec. if we have the three conferences playing we will see some good ball in the fall on saturdays. stuart: i hope it takes off for the colleges collectively. >> we need it. stuart: coming up next hour, of course, we're talking exclusively to white house guy larry kudlow. i want to know what's,'s with the hold up on the next round of stimulus because there is a hold-up. also coming up, former bloomberg pollster doug schoen. he says kamala harris is biden's safest choice. okay, let him make his case. plus you have my take on the how the virus has changed just about everything in our lives. the third hour of "varney &

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a 202 point gain. the dow jones average up 277. the s&p up 44 points. this is a big day indeed for stocks. couple of minutes' time, we will bring in larry kudlow, top economic guy at the white house. we keep saying this. i want to know what he's got to say about the $12 trillion increase in value of american companies just since late march. that is an extraordinary gain. now this. you hear it all the time. it's not the same. that's a reference to how the virus has changed just about everything. the way we do things now compared to five months ago has changed. it's different. it's not the same, is it? eating out, of course that's not the same. you might have to dine outside. you wear a mask as you walk to your separated table. not that attractive. the eating out culture, so big in america, is clearly changing.

why go out when you can order in? how about travel. i don't know about you, but these days, i'm not keen. i guess it's because i spent so much time at home, making the effort to get on a plane doesn't seem worth it. travel used to be exciting, hey, you're going somewhere. now, it's masks, temperature checks, keep your distance, and maybe you won't be allowed back. it's really not the same. work, huge change. working from home is obviously not the same. love it or hate it, doesn't matter, changing where and how you work has made a very big difference to your life. even for those of us who come into the office every day, it's not the same. the place is empty. virtually no human contact. very few direct conversations. think about that. these days, we are more likely to do business on a screen than face-to-face. sport. i've lost interest. there are no fans anymore. some networks pipe in

prerecorded crowd noises. they are trying, but without an instant crowd response, it's not the same. when all sport was shut down i got used to reading a book. we often talk about getting back to the way it used to be. i don't think we will get back to the way it used to be. here's that the shot again, sixth avenue, new york city, normally packed and now empty. when you are forced to live differently for months on end, you change your habits, you change your tastes. they shift. when we try to go back by eating out or getting on a plane or getting to the office, going to the office, we can see the changes. it's not the same. that is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is reality. every person, every business, every country, has to adjust. i want to bring in susan, ashley and lauren. you all heard what i've got to say. nothing's the same. let's start with some examples. what have you got for me, susan? susan: zoom is now in our

everyday language. zoom calls have taken over our lives and homes and the stock has more than tripled this year so it's been rewarded, going from 10 million daily meeting participants to 300 million at last count. also ipo'ed just about a year ago at just 39 bucks. you would have made around three times your money. salesforce did, dumping out two and a half million shares yesterday after they made around 300% or so and the stock is up again today after a loss yesterday because of the salesforce sale and earnings at the end of this month. you know, as you said, will we go back to normal or to the old ways, probably not. zoom is a great example of that. stuart: that's a very good example. ashley, what did you find? ashley: you know, i have done the pop stocks, why not pizza. it's interesting, the trends we have seen from dominoes, who say we notice that people got sick of cooking from home so what did they do? they were ordering a lot more pizzas because then they would

have pizza leftovers the following day. you could really make it last. maybe the day after that. it's always good, right, for pizza. one interesting thing, though, because of the retail apocalypse it's been an opportunity for companies like dominoes who have come in and are starting to buy up the empty retail stores, putting a domino's in there and speeding up their delivery time. it's a little like hyenas picking at the bones of a wildebeast on the plains. it is the reality of today. stuart: that's a sad analogy, but i do take your point. there's nothing like pizza leftovers the next morning. nothing like it at all. ashley: right. stuart: lauren, you are last up. your example is target? why? lauren: this is a surprise because the stock is only higher by 3% this year but i picked it for its ability to pivot to our changing shopping habits. it reports earnings next week but their digital sales in april were up 282%.

they are fulfilling 80% of those orders with their stores. that is a great position to be in. low food prices on top of that, customer loyalty. yeah, they might not be feeling much competition from walmart and amazon but there is certainly room right now for three. i can tell you, when there's a vaccine and people feel comfortable going out the way we used to, i think we will go back to the store. i decorated a room when lockdown was really severe and i hate the way it came because i don't like picking things out on the computer. i want to go see something. i think a lot of people feel like that. stuart: thank you very much indeed. very good examples about it's not the same. not going back to the way it used to be. thanks, everybody. let me move on. a couple of stocks to show you. first, moderna. president trump says america will purchase 100 million doses of their vaccine to give to people free of charge. the deal is worth $1.5 billion. moderna had been up earlier.

it's down now. tesla up big. they have announced a five for one stock split. the stock is up $122 a share. the stock split takes effect at the end of this month. look at that. $1497 on tesla. got to tell you this, too. soft commodities, i use that word advisedly, coffee, cocoa, sugar, more, they are staging a simultaneous rally along with stocks. prices going up. it's a rally all across the commodities spectrum. stephen schork is with us. he concentrates on oil but let's broaden this out a second because oil is a commodity, and all of them are going up. what's your explanation for this? >> well, certainly, stuart, we started to see this really take hold two mondays ago, the first calendar day of the new trading month, and indeed, we have seen a significant amount of money come into, to your point, all commodities. in my space, in the oil and

natural gas market, we are looking at hedge funds now. hedge funds are holding their largest bullish position since november 2018 and if you remember 2018, there was a massive debacle in the gas market when a hedge fund, option sellers.com, imploded but wall street is back in that market, they are back in the oil space. with oil at this point, we are flirting now with a 200-day moving average. i'm not that big of a technical analyst but that is a significant milestone. stuart: it's an economic recovery indicator, isn't it? because all round the world, economies are coming out of the chronic depression of march, april and may, and as we come out of it, demand for these commodities goes up. it's an economic indicator of the state of the recovery. right? >> absolutely. we look at some of the q3 gdp forecasts by the regional federal reserve banks, st. louis, new york, atlanta, they are all forecasting mid-teen,

high teen recovery in q3. excellent point that you brought up, that commodity prices are the best leading indicator of economic growth or contraction and clearly with the rebound we are seeing not just in the industrial commodities but in the softs, i.e., the agricultura agriculturals, certainly that is positive. we are not out of the woods yet but this is probably the best news we have received on the economy going back since covid-19 mitigation protocols went into effect back in march. stuart: fascinating. thanks for being with us this morning. always appreciate it. thank you. i want to get back to that news about uber and i think it is a possible shutdown in california, susan? susan: california, that's right. where they employ hundreds of thousands of drivers. one of their largest markets. this possibility was filed in their injunction against the monday ruling in san francisco court that is forcing uber and

lyft and other gig economy workers and companies to immediately reclassify their workers and drivers as employees and not independent contractors, employees that are paid benefits and vacation. here's what uber wrote. uber will almost certainly be forced to shut down the ride platform in california if this injunction goes into effect, which would irreperably harm uber and all who rely on its rides app. this is a major threat to gig economy players and its business model. food deliverers, door dash and the like. uber and the rest are looking to reverse this law in california, in law in fall, because they also have their own ballots on the table where they are hoping to be exempt from this ab-5, assembly bill 5, law that was passed in january of this year. stuart: thanks, susan. i will break into this. golf fans, listen up.

the masters will be held. the new dates will be november 9th through november 15th. that's video of tiger winning last year. that was a memorable event. the masters always takes place in april. this time because of the virus, of course, it's going to be on, it's going to be happening and it's november 9th through 15th. that's something i will be watching. next case, president trump says he's thrilled about joe biden's vice presidential pick. watch this. >> she was my number one draft pick and we'll see how she works out. stuart: we will take a look at senator harris's progressive plans and policies coming up for you. the dnc releases the official schedule for its virtual convention. how exactly does that work? how as a tv operation, do you cover it? i will ask martha maccallum. first, stimulus talks at a standstill. will that slow down, slow the

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stuart: 11:15 eastern and right on time, larry kudlow joins us from the white house. larry, let's get right at this. mitch mcconnell says the stimulus talks, the virus aid talks, are at a stalemate. does that, in your opinion, slow down the economic recovery at all, if there's no more money other than the president's executive order going to be put out there? >> well, i don't think so, although there are certain items like money for school and things

that are very very important and wouldn't mind an extension of the payroll protection plan which i think would help small business, but no, look, the numbers are coming in very very nicely. i mean, the increase in the caseload, i understand, in the south and west put a slight restraint on the economy, but the numbers coming out show it wasn't a major restraint. un unemployment claims coming back down, there's a manufacturing boom, a housing boom. private trucking surveys are very very strong right now. stuart: we don't need a whole lot more money chucked at the economy? >> i don't think so particularly. i think you need targeted money. i will come back to the school openings because they are so important for the kids and so important for the parents. there is an economic impact there. our position was higher than the democrats' position originally. we put in $105 billion, slightly more than they put in. that's the kind of thing that

ought to work. the president is willing to talk about targeted checks, yes, and some other matters, but no, i don't think the economy is going to rely solely on this. look, the payroll tax deferral is a huge economic growth and jobs incentive. that's big stuff. i think the continuation of the unemployment insurance or the federal government has ponied up, is willing to pony up $300, the states can add to it if they choose to, it would be a $700 overall package, that's going to be a big help and the eviction, it's not quite an eviction moratorium but it's certainly eviction protection as secretary carson put it well. that's a big help already. and the student loan deferral, zero interest rate, by the way. some of the kids may want to pay down with zero interest. my point is the executive orders provide considerable assistance and economic growth incentive so we can stay with that as we are

entering what i think is a self-sustaining economic recovery. stuart: the states, of course, are really upset that they are responsible for, what, $100 a week of the bonus, the unemployment bonus. they say they don't have it. a lot of them don't have it. what do you make of that? >> well, we are no longer insisting on a cost sharing deal. in other words, there's some technical adjustments to the executive order last weekend. at this point, here's the thing. any state that has already provided $100 of benefits for people unemployed because of covid, and that i think's got to mean all 50 states, if you have already done that and you are continuing that, the federal government will put in $300 so the cost share, now, if the state wants to plus up another hundred, that's great. but that's their decision. but we are not insisting on their plussing up another

hundred. we are committed to putting $300 in plus their $400 median average across the country. i think it's a great deal. i think it's a very generous compromise kind of deal. and i think it's going to help the 16 million people who are unemployed and are still suffering a lot of heartbreak and hardship. i get that. we are going to be helping them there. and the payroll tax deferral again, that's a shot in the arm. it puts more cash -- it gives the 140 million people who are working, who you know, were able to get through this, they are heroes working, they will get a big pay raise. that's what it amounts to. 6.25% pay raise, about $1100. that's huge stimulus also. stuart: do you absolutely object and completely reject bailout money for the states? >> well, that word bailout, yeah, we reject that. i think -- i have to go --

google up webster's dictionary for bailout, i.e. stuart varney, to make sure i know what you're saying. stuart: your money, coming from the administration, going to places like new jersey or illinois, essentially helping them bail out their bankrupt pension payments to their government workers. do you absolutely flat out reject it, you will never do it? >> the president has rejected that very steadily and consistently. this is not about bailing out pensions, it's not about bailing bad management. i don't want to use new jersey as an example because i happen to think -- i think a lot of of governor phil murphy and i think he's done a good job and works very well with us. but generically your point is taken. the president completely opposes that. however, we are not opposed to some assistance, federal assistance with respect, for example, to covid-related equipment or construction or

renovation, especially, i say this again, opening schools and opening businesses, 80% of business open, hope to get that much higher in the months ahead and that leaves us with the guidelines, right? it's very important, safety and security, the masking, the distancing, the testing where applicable and good hand washing and hygiene. that's essential. now, people need help on that, we probably would be willing to provide some assistance. stuart: i just see the numbers. between march 23rd and yesterday, the value of all publicly traded companies in the united states went up to the tune of $12.2 trillion. that is a stunning increase. i have never seen anything like it. is this an economic indicator? >> yes. very important indicator. the broad s&p 500 as you know is up 50% from the march 23rd lows. middle income people own shares

through i.r.a.s and 401(k)s. unions, public and private unions, are in their pension plans. that relies on the stock market. household net worth, stuart, which is what you are measuring, essentially stocks and homes and what kind of cash you have in the bank and some other items, that thing is up, i think i saw it's now worth $112 trillion. that's a remarkable number. it's like, you know, the total value of american assets. that's a remarkable number. it's got to be up at least 30% from the lows. i'll have to check that. anyway, you are correct. that's a leading indicator. many distinguished economists on wall street use that household net worth, it's from the federal reserve, as a leading indicator of the economy. stuart: but the left, i presume kamala harris, will say that's not fair. the rich are getting richer, they are doing well out of this

virus problem. what are you doing about that? >> yeah. well, you know, i feel sorry for them and that point of view. so completely wrong. this runs counter to the american idea. i mean, in a free economy like ours, where we reward success, a rising tide does lift all boats. it may not be perfect but you start at the beginning, at the starting line with equal opportunity and freedom, where you end up and the finish line is completely up to you, but all americans have shared, you know trump's -- president trump's first three years and two months was splendid. lowest unemployment in history, wage increases, as you probably know, middle class and lower middle class, the bottom quintile did the best under president trump's tax cuts and deregulation and trade reform and so forth and energy.

i think that's just a phony argument. democrats put that out every time. i don't think americans really buy it. you know what, look, i don't think americans resent people from succeeding or getting rich, quote unquote, whatever that means. i think americans want opportunities and incentives, and that's what presidential policies have always done. and we do have a safety net and this debate about the covid so-called cares package number two is that we are putting in incentives, we want to create new opportunities and where necessary, where it applies to covid, we will raise the safety net with temporary cash injections. we've always done that from the beginning. it was bipartisan last winter. unfortunately, it's very partisan today. but i don't care. all this stuff, no one should -- people don't object to their neighbors and friends doing well and they want to do well. they want the same opportunity. this middle class owns a lot of stocks, stuart. 51% of the people in this country, 51% of the households

own stock. that's a gigantic number. stuart: as we go out, would you make any comment on the selection of kamala harris as joe biden's running mate? >> i have no personal comment. i don't know her. i have never met her. i know the president's disappointed in her performance in the judicial hearings. i would just say, though, the issue here is the significant left turn in democratic policies. i mean, biden, senator biden or former vice president biden is backing over $3 trillion in tax cuts -- tax hikes, i'm sorry, tax hikes. that's crazy. you are coming out of a pandemic, contraction at historic dimensions and he wants to raise taxes. as i say, where are the keynesians when you need them, much less the supply siders. they will decimate energy, decimate energy which will completely crater the economy and the stock market. that's the problem. it's not the personalities that concern me. it's the policies.

and the policies would transform america as vice president biden has said. it would transform it towards a government-run socialized economy the likes of which have never succeeded. that's a warning. i hope voters -- well, i know voters are very smart. they will be following this intensely. the contrast between president trump and mr. biden couldn't be clearer. president trump's tax cuts and deregulation and fair trade and energy revival gave us a splendid fast-growing economy for three years and two months before the pandemic. why do you want to unwind that? why do you want to overturn that? why do you want to transform that? i don't want to transform it. i want to continue with a second round of economic rebuilding. stuart: that virus changed everything, didn't it? >> it did but we will persevere, stu. by the way, your announcement about the masters is fabulous news. fabulous. stuart: isn't that wonderful? >> the psyche of america.

people love that just like the baseball opening. stuart: the 9th through the 15th. the masters will take place. larry, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. see you soon. thank you very much indeed. now, carrying on from that conversation, joe biden, he has made a very progressive choice for his vice president. let's watch this. >> -- crossing over the border, it is illegal and you would decriminalize it? >> i would not make it a crime punishable by jail. i strongly believe we need to have medicare for all. i will give the united states congress 100 days to pass reasonable gun safety laws. stuart: i'm going to call those far left policies and kamala harris could be one step from the presidency. good story. we're on it after this.

she's very big into raising taxes. she wants to slash funds for our military at a level that nobody's -- can even believe. she is against fracking. fracking is -- she's against petroleum products. she wants to take your health care plans away from 180 million americans. stuart: that's the president

listing kamala harris's i'd say liberal, i think far left ideas. let's bring in doug schoen. he used to be a new york democrat. i think he's still a democrat but i don't think he's a new yorker any longer. there you go. doug, welcome. good to see you. >> thank you so much, stuart. a florida democrat now. stuart: okay. there's a difference, i'm sure. look, let's start off with this. i think kamala harris is on the ticket because of her race and gender. the democrats, your party, are playing identity politics big-time. you going to take me on on that? >> no, i'm not going to take you on. joe biden said he was going to pick a woman, he did, and i think given the importance and role of african-americans in getting joe biden nominated, it was the right political decision and maybe even substantive decision for him to make. i don't take you on at all. stuart: will the rest of america appreciate a vice president who is going to be so close to the oval office essentially getting

that position because of her race and gender? what does middle america feel about that? >> at this point, it probably is not going to be a problem but we have seen recently, stuart, in chicago, portland, seattle, violence and i am worried that we are going to have a backlash as we did circa1968, and i also worry that the democrats, biden and harris but the two of them together, are moving too far left, too likely to increase taxes, and are not sensitive to the needs of middle class ordinary americans as larry kudlow was articulating. stuart: how far left do you think kamala harris has gone? is she close to bernie sanders? is she closer to bernie sanders than she is to joe biden in terms of policy? >> let's just say right now, she's where joe biden is. i think she was picked because

she is the least bad choice. i think that she will embrace biden's policies, whatever she said in the past, and i think you will see certainly a left almost progressive democratic party, but you will not see her articulating positions she's taken before that i think are out of the mainstream. stuart: i think kamala harris will be the one out front in this campaign. she's energetic, she's lively, she's 55 years old, she's the exact opposite in many ways of joe biden. i think she's out front. i think she leads this campaign. in fact, i think she's the most important person on the ticket. what say you? >> well, i say she was nominated because i think she is the one most likely to be qualified or perceived as such to be president and if she leads the ticket and is aggressive in the way you are describing, i think biden would believe that it will be more likely to be a positive

than a negative. time will tell to see who's right. stuart: let me make sure i've got this right. you have left new york city. i have known you for 20 or 30 years. you have always been a new yorker and proudly so. have you absolutely left it for good? >> well, let's just say i'm a florida resident, i will be voting in a swing state and i will for one certainty, stuart, i will be paying lower taxes in florida which we both agree is very very good for me and i dare say for most people. stuart: the governor has issued, he wants you back. >> i understand. you know, if new york city can stabilize and we get our finances under control and we can reopen maybe just maybe, but i worry taxes in new york, no matter what governor cuomo says and i have been a supporter of his, i believe they are going to have to go up and we have a far left government with deblasio

which i think will only get worse, stuart, and why would i want to be there for that. stuart: i'm with you 100%. doug, thanks for joining us. >> always a pleasure. stuart: thank you very much indeed. see you soon. now, some companies will be reporting their earnings after the bell today. i will start with vroom. that's an online used car company. wall street's got high hopes for them, ashley. ashley: yeah, they do. there's a lot of up-front costs to get this under way. they are expecting a loss of about 70 cents per share, revenue about $222 million. but really, you have to look at the long game. there's a lot of money that has to be put in, as i say, on inventory and getting the platform up and running. let's not forget, this just launched june 8th. the price was $22. my, oh, my, it's coming along very well, closed at $47.90 on its first day. it spent around $1 billion on

online -- on the platform. it's also talking about expanding in the future to selling auto parts and insurance. interesting to see what they say, how people are changing their habits and buying cars online. there's only 1% of the used car market buying online. you could say plenty of room for growth. stuart: you could. again, we go back to the subject at the top of the hour. the virus changes everything. it really does. including buying a car, for heaven's sake. thanks, ash. the virus has obviously devastated the travel industry. listen to this. almost half of u.s. hotel rooms are sitting empty. people are choosing to stay home. they're not traveling, obviously. airbnb, they reportedly are going to go public. i don't know when, but they are going to go public. is this the right time? we will discuss that. first, though, the big ten and pac-12 postpone their football seasons, keeping players safe from the virus. was that decision more about health or politics?

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how's that going to work? >> you know, i started my presidential coverage back in 2004, packed on the floor of the convention in boston, it's where barack obama gave his keynote speech. the electricity in the room was incredible. we were all standing, you know, on top of each other, social distancing was something that clearly didn't exist as everybody was jockeying for their spot on the floor to have a great camera position for the night. obviously, this is going to be vastly different and both of these -- it's going to be interesting to see how the dnc and rnc handle it because those of us in television understand the value of production and i hope these conventions understand the value of production in the way that the game has changed because in order to create some enthusiasm and excitement around these events, they've got their work cut out for them. stuart: yes. we keep saying this, we said this throughout the show, nothing's the same. everything's changed. i don't see how you generate excitement and publicity with a

virtual convention, when as you say you don't have those people milling around, you don't have the balloons and razmatazz. pol was 1980. >> that would have been a good one. the moments that are made at these conventions, and we talked a lot over recent years, the importance of the convention has diminished. we haven't seen a contested convention or true sort of wrestling behind the scenes of the deal makers and power brokers in quite awhile. in fact, these conventions have shrunk over the course of the last several cycles. i wonder when they find out how much money they will save doing it this way, if they decide they don't need to go back to the full convention in the next four years. i think you're right, i think a lot of things are changing today that are not necessarily ever going to go back to the way they were, and i for one will be glad that i experienced them in their

full bloom because they are exciting and they can potentially be news-making at times and that's why we like to be where the action is. this time around, the action is going to be very different but we will be there nonetheless. stuart: i'm already telling my grandchildren about the good old days of 1980 but that's another story entirely. right. the big ten, pac-12, as you know, they have officially postponed their fall sports. do you think there's any politics at all involved in this, martha? >> i do. i think that you see a difference in opinion in some of the red states and blue states about whether or not the lockdowns should end and i think that extends to college sports as well. i think when you look at the pac-10, you look at the big ten and pac-12, rather, and you look at the acc, sec, the choices they might make in the south and midwest might be different. we are sort of waiting to find out what they decide. i go back to the words of trevor lawrence, the quarterback of clemson, who says we want to play and that hash tag has been

trending all over the place. the president is also supporting it. obviously they want to play with precautions but they are asking the question, why are we safe in class and not safe on the football field and also pointing out that for a lot of these students, the safest most regimented place for them to be is with their team, is at practice, and you know, i think it's a huge mistake and i think it's one they will regret and i think it's one that, you know, a month from now may look like they made it too soon. stuart: everything changes. everything shifts. because of that pandemic. unbelievable. it's only five months old. martha, thank you. we will be watching tonight on "the story." weeknights, 7:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel. thank you very much. >> thank you, stuart. good to see you. stuart: sure thing. i'm going to get back to sports right now. a u.s. soccer team will play in front of thousands of fans and they will play that in front of thousands of fans today. where, ashley? ashley: they listened to your plea, stu. in dallas.

fc dallas of the major league soccer team, mls, will be hosting nashville tonight in frisco, texas, just north of dallas. a maximum of just over 5,000 fans, 5,110 will be allowed inside the arena. that is about 25% of the 20,000 seat stadium. it's actually well below the 50% limit that's actually being allowed by governor greg abbott in his most recent executive order. interestingly, all the fans that do get in to watch this game have to sign a liability waiver agreeing not to sue if they are exposed to covid-19. they will also have to wear masks and they also will be in one of two zones socially distanced, lots of empty seats between them. at least it's beginning and going to get real fan noise inside the stadium. stuart: we are both sports fans. do you agree with me that watching a game of any kind with no fans is not the same? you agree?

ashley: it's not, no. you lose all the excitement you really do. substitute wa stuart: you want that crowd response. in soccer i want to hear the fans singing. i want to hear what they sing because they change all the time. we will get back there one day. thank you. let's change the subject, why don't we. lauren, you're on. forbes released their list of highest paid actors. who is number one? lauren: yeah. i just want to say, my husband is not watching sports anymore and that's good for me. just pointing that ouchltt. the rock earned $87.5 million last year thanks to his under armour clothing line and the new netflix movie "red notice" which also stars the number two, ryan reynolds, $71.5 million. mark wahlberg at number three. ben affleck and vin diesel in the top five. what do they have in common? they all made movies with netflix. netflix pays well. stuart: that's interesting. that is interesting. all that money, good heavens. $87 million? lauren: yeah.

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start trading before the end of the year. so three options here. traditional listing where the company sells shares to the public and raises money, or they could go for a direct listing where no new money is raised. slack and spotify chose a direct listing route. one more option might be the new trend of spacs where airbnb merges with a blank check company and nikola is an example of that. morgan stanley, goldman sachs leading this offering. airbnb was ready to go public earlier this year, they filed the papers in march, at least they were looking to, and the coronavirus derailed those plans. airbnb at the start of this year was worth $31 billion. then they had to raise emergency funding at the height of covid and nearly half of that valuation, $18 billion. value will be interesting and they also have to lay off about a quarter of their staff. even if airbnb files for a listing and files the papers, there is no guarantee they will go ahead with an ipo this year but we have seen high-flying unicorns doing very well. lemonade tripling from its ipo

price and nikola has also gone stratospheric as well. stuart: i'm interested in this brand new company, this new idea, this new industry. i've got to tell you, it was airbnb that drove my family out of the hotel business. susan: yeah. this is what we call disruption. are you willing to pay the right price for disruption. i think that's the key here. stuart: yes, but you're right, it is an absolute industry disruptor. got it. i will put some airlines up on the screen. i believe they are up. i've got this -- no, they're down. this story, "wall street journal" says the airlines are withholding billions of dollars in refunds for customers whose trips were canceled at the start of the pandemic. now, the "journal" goes on to ask these customers to tell them, customers tell the "journal" some airlines are trying to skirt giving the money back by offering vouchers or claiming the passengers just missed their flight. the airlines, though, are down today. even though they might get some more bailout money.

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stuart: got a nugget for you. fox news confirms with democrat sources that in the four hours after joe biden announced that senator kamala harris was his running mate, in those four

hours the campaign brought in $10.8 million worth of fund-raising. they do this through act blue. that is the online, non-profit, fund-raising platform used by democrat campaigns. off to a good start there. in four hours, 10 million. not bad. my time's up. neil, it's yours. neil: i don't think either party will have trouble raising money when all said and done on this stuart, thank you very, very much. we're looking at corner of wall and broad. welcome, i'm neil cavuto this is "coast to coast." the dow is up 232 points. transports trying to make it 11 straight days of advances something we've not seen in the better part of a decade. i don't want to start off getting wonky. that could be a very bullish development here. as transports go, it could be a signal event where the economy and markets go. more on that in a second. let's follow the latest news items here, you will see joe biden, with hisng