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for a secret wiretap on former trump campaign adviser carter page. house intelligence committee ranking member devin nuñes lays out the case for us. plus, we'll is have former trump impeachment defense team member robert ray what happens next, who else could be in the crosshairs and when. plus, president trump declaring that high crime and steep taxes in new york city could help him win the state in the upcoming election. we'll ask former cincinnati mayor ken blackwell about this and about the worsing -- worsening crime wave gripping the big apple and other cities led by democrats. plus, a brand new report on the president's strategy to use the defense production act in the fight against covid-19. rear admiral john pull check is leading the charge, he is our guest. and north korean dictator kim jong un rejecting health amid reports that flood thing may have damaged the country's
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nuclear complex. we'll ask fred fleitz about this. also with us, representative debbie lesko on critics who warn that a biden presidency will turn the united states into a sanctuary country. ♪ gregg: we begin tonight with president trump set to address the new york city police benevolent association about an hour from now. edward lawrence has the details for us. edward? >> reporter: yeah, that address is going to happen at his bed minister resort which is where the president right now. he landed about 10 minutes or so ago from visiting new york city. now, the president through this speech is trying to shore up the police vote. listen. >> we're being honored by the police, by new york city's finest tonight, and they'll be doing an endorsement, so we're very honored by that. >> reporter: now before leaving for the new york/new jersey area, the president upped the pressure on house speaker
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nancy pelosi. in a series of tweets and also followed by an in-person interview with the press and the media, the president says that he has directed the treasury department to start working on direct checks, $3400 for each american family. he also said he wants to send small businesses more money to the paw roll protection program -- payroll protection program as well as money to statements. he says -- to states. he says democrats are holding all of this up. one main stucking point is the house speaker, nancy pelosi, wants $1 trillion for states to bail them out in some cases for decades of bad fiscal decisions. listen. >> because they want $1 trillion to go to their friends doing a bad job running certain cities and states that are doing very badly. you know, most of our country's running very well. >> reporter: and the treasury official told me -- a senior treasury official told me today that right now the treasury has the money to send those direct checks to americans.
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they are working starting today to try and get the groundwork done to get those checks out the door. the checks won't actually go out the door unless the house and senate both pass a bill. both of them are in recess until september. back to you. gregg: edward lawrence, thanks finish. well, big news today in u.s. attorney john durham's investigation into the origins of the trump-russia probe. the first criminal case emerges as ex-fbi lawyer ken klein smith is expected to plead guilty to altering an e-mail from the cia that was then used to get renewed fisa court per mugs to spy -- permission to spy e on former trump campaign adviser carter page. president trump had this reaction. watch. finish. >> kevin clinesmith, a corrupt fbi attorney who falsified fisa warrants in james comey's very
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corrupt fbi, is expected to plead guilty. you probably heard that, it just came out. so that's just the beginning, i would imagine. this, what happened should never happen again. gregg: let's welcome house intelligence committee ranking member devin nuñes. congressman, great to see you, as always. is the president right, this indictment is just the beginning? >> well, look, it should be, gregg, you're one of the officionados on this. you wrote a best selling book on it. of course, i ran the initial investigation that unearthed all this. it would be hard for me to believe that more people didn't know about this. and if you read closely as to what clinesmith said, it was after this indictment, he said that he had turned over this information to other people within doj and fbi. of course, this was hidden not
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just from the american people, but also the united states congress and, you know, myself who was doing and conducting this investigation. we would have loved to have had this several years ago, this indictment was a long time coming. it's a bad draw for the fbi -- bad day for the fbi, but i think it's good for america, ultimate lu, to have an fbi and a doj in the beginning stages of being cleaned up. gregg: i was amused by clinesmith's lawyer's rationalization. he said, oh, you know, gosh, golly, gee, this is just a benign mistake on my client's part. he was really trying to clarify information. no, congressman, when you falsify a document, when you change the language that originally said carter page is a cia asset into he's not a cua asset, what you're really doing is changing exculpatory
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information. that's not benign, that's corrupt. would you agree? >> very much so, and i also want to remind the viewers out there tonight that this was also the french-speaking fbi lawyer. you may remember from the text messages that we unearthed, this was the person who said vive la resistance. and that was in response to a question about whether or not he was going to leave the fbi after president trump had been elected. so he knowingly e and willingly had a motive here. it was in his text messages. and just, look, just to scare the hell out of everybody, this guy also ended up on the mueller team, which the irony tonight that many people on that failed mueller team that wasted $40 million of taxpayer money, the irony is that they're out tweeting in terms of clinesmith really didn't do anything wrong. i'm just paraphrasing.
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the bottom line here is this person had an axe to grind with the incoming president of the united states, later became the president, and it's just wrong. french speaking or not. gregg: you know, the other thing i learned from reading several pages of the indictment today is that comey didn't even ask clinesmith to find out from the cia whether carter page was an asset or not or until nine months after the first fisa warrant. and yet comey already knew that page was an asset of the cia. how do we know that? carter page, before the first fisa warrant application, sent comey a direct letter that said, hey, i work for the cia. i'm not a russian spy. how do i know that? because he gave me a copy of that letter. it's in both my books. and it's also part of his congressional testimony, you'll recall. so isn't it true that james comey concealed this information from the fisa court and
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perpetrated a fraud e when he signed the nice ca warrants? -- fisa warrants? >> yeah, i think very much so. but don't forget, gregg, i know you know this too, but just to add insult to injury here, they also used cart or page, the fbi and the department of justice used his information as a source, you know, back in i think 2014. so they didn't -- carter page, you know, they knew that this guy was no threat to america. there was never any reason to put him under surveillance. the whole reason was to spy on the trump campaign, which we now now. gregg: and, in fact, he had helped the department of justice prosecute russians, for goodness sakes. comey knew that, mccabe knew that, they all knew that at the fbi, they didn't care. here's what attorney general barr told nbc news in a recent
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interview, this is a quote: i think our nation was turned on its head for three years based on a completely bogus narrative that was largely fanned and hyped by a completely you are responsible press. i -- irresponsible press. i think there were gross abuses and an inexplicable behavior that is intolerable in the fbi. congressman, who else should durham be looking at here? >> well, look, you know, we've made 4 criminal referrals -- 14 criminal referrals in our exhaustive three-and-a-half year investigation. so there's plenty to look at here. that's why it's not just john durham. there's one u.s. attorney that's kind of got the lead on this, but there's also at least two other u.s. attorneys including one out of texas and one out of missouri who are also looking at different aspects of the russia, the broader russia hoax including looking at the mueller team, specifically at the flynn prosecution which is very problematic, at best. gregg: you know, congressman, so much of the collusion narrative
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was based on the dossier, and yet we now know that the fbi the very month trump was sworn in, january 2017, debunked and discredited. and yet the next year, 2018, the fbi goes to the senate intel committee and says, oh, gosh, the dossier is absolutely credible. christopher steele, the author, reliable. the source information is verified. all of that was a lie by the fbi. isn't lying to congress a crime? enter -- >> look, this is why the current fbi is not clean, and they still have to give us answers, because we asked the same question, house republicans. we asked those very questions. and we are very frustrated that, you know, no one has come forward to say, look, we got it wrong. if you remember when i put out the memo that first exposed a lot of this, it was the current
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fbi leadership, actual. it wasn't comey, it was the current leadership who made, let's just say, disparaging comments about how i think that we were going to cause problems within the fbi. i'm paraphrasing once again, but a that's just wrong. the fbi leadership needs to come forward and say, look, or you know, at least apologize. i'm not saying i need an apologying but i think the american people need one because it looks like the current leadership ran interference on the dirty cops' behalf who were really just working ultimate hi -- gregg, don't forget this, you always have to bring it back to this -- this was a clinton campaign, democratic national committee dossier. dirtied up carter page and everybody else. and it was the dirty cops who they somehow convinced to open up an investigation into their political opponent and leaked that information illegally. gregg: yeah. i mean, it was and democrats that actually -- it was hillary
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clinton and democrats who actually colluded for russian disinformation, and yet bob mueller never looked into that. congressman devin nuñes, thanks as much. >> few pleasure. gregg: be sure to check out the upcoming book, "countdown to socialism," devin nuñes. coming up, president trump declaring that high crime and steep taxes in new york city could actually help him win the state in the upcoming election. we'll ask former cincinnati mayor and current black voices for trump advisory board member ken blackwell about this and about the worsing crime wave gripping the big apple and other cities across the nation that are led by democrats. muck few. ♪ looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies.
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♪ ♪ gregg: welcome back. president trump setting his sights on new york state this election season, tweeting: just landed in new york to see my brother robert, we're going for new york on november 3 or. we're going to reduce taxes, increase law enforcement and bring it back bigtime. the president telling "the new york post" he will bring down taxes, make new york a safe place, this after a conservative think tank ranked the state's economic outlook as the worst in the nation. new york city one of many across the country led by democratic mayors. they've seen a spike in crime in the wake of riots and looting in
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the aftermath of the death of george floyd. let's talk about it with black voices for trump advisory board member ken blackwell. ken, thanks very much. as violence continues to rampage in cities across america, will voters inevitably gravitate to a strong law and order candidate, president trump? >> good to be with you. look, it's very clear to me that the average person wants safe neighborhoods, safe streets, good schools and to educate children and a reasonably solid capital plan. when you don't have these things, people who are net taxpayer withs, people who pay more in taxes than they demand in service will vote with hair feet, and that's what's happening. you're seeing an exodus from new york city. you're also seeing an exodus
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from those states with big cities where local officials are derelict in their duties and have not shown up for action. and this is something that the president understands. he understands that if you don't are have a safe city, you're not going to have an environment where people will investment if people stop investing and flee, what you have is a population that deteriorates. new york is back to a pre-rudy giuliani time. and that's just crazy. the president is entrepreneur enough, he is competitive enough to know that he can speak directly to the concerns of those folks. and i think that he can make the
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democrats spend some serious money to hold on to a tate like new york which should be theirs in a walk. gregg: if yet joe biden -- and yet joe biden and kamala harris aren't talking about out as well. the silence is deafening. if trump is the law and order candidate, does their silence mean that they're the lawless and disorder candidates? >> just think about it, if you look at the biden/harris ticket, they bought into the green new deal which would radially -- radically destroy american energy independence, they are advocating for a single-payer system, a government-controlled system which would talk away from folks the option of having their own independent, private health insurance. they are captives of a philosophy and a majority of their party that now being held captive by anarchists, marxist
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organizers and street thugs. gregg: yeah. >> this is a gift. and i new this is going to be a clear -- i think this is going to be a clear choice, this election. that's what they have created. this is no longer a referendum on donald trump and his, and his, i think, very aggressive handling of the post-pandemic era to this is a referendum about which sort of american future do you want. do you want a government-central, sent -- centric post-pandemic america, or do you want an opportunity society. that is the choice. gregg: ken blackwell, many thanks, sir. good to see you. coming up next, a new report outlining the trump administration's strategy to use the defense production act to
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trump administration's strategy for using the defense production act during the coronavirus pandemic. to date, president trump has enacted it a total of 78 times to mobilize the country's industries to fight the pandemic. joining me now is fema supply chain task force leader rear admiral john polowczyk. admiral, great to see you. so explain what the president has done to fight this. >> gregg, first, thanks for having me. this is really an important issue. the president gave me one task when i was moved from the pentagon to fema to work this supply chain, get our health care workers what they need when they need it. and using the defense production act, we've either rated orders -- give priority -- or expanded the industrial base. so from n95 masks to fabric for
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gowns, to swabs for testing, to ventilators, we've used the defense production act to get our health care workers what they need when they need it. gregg: so you have enhanced manufacturing production, you have retooled some industries to escalate the products that are needed? >> correct. that's exactly right. so, for example, our n95 mask producers in march produced about 30-35 million n95 masks a month domestically. we're now up to 100 million, 120 million masks a month. we're going to reach a peak of 160-180 million a month as we enter the fall and winter. we've also retooled. ge, ford have produced ventilators.
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a wide expansion across industry to do just that, to increase our capacity and increase the ability of supplies for our health care workers. gregg: all right. so production is one aspect. supply is also another, and that's critical. are the ppe, the personal protective equipment, for example, getting allocated to the right locations that need them? >> so, gregg, absolutely. here's what we're also about to do. using an authority within the defense production act, title vii -- which hasn't been used in decades -- we're going to enter into legal agreements, voluntary agreements with manufacturers, specifically those that make masks and those that distribute. and we're going to use that authority to help make sure that masks are going to segments of health care where they're
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needed. hospitals are definitely a priority, nursing homes are definitely a priority. but as we open up america, den trusts, the individual -- dentists, the individual physicians' offices, they're going to need masks as well as first responders. and so using the defense production act and voluntary agreements, we'll have the ability to work with industry and make sure a they get distributed to where we need them. twreg e greg all right. so distribution, execution, you've got it covered. what about cost? is fema picking up the expense? >> well, in the emergency response framework when a state asks for supplies, there's a cost share. and so right now that cost hair is somewhere in the -- cost share is somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% for states, 75% for the federal government. so using the disaster relief fund, there is a cost mitigation to states. gregg: rear add miller john polowczyk, keep us posted as to
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the progress. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. gregg: coming up, north korean leader kim jong un rejecting reports that flooding may have damaged the country's main nuclear complex. we'll ask fred fleitz just how bad the situation is there. ♪ ♪ tara, did you know geico is now offering an extra 15% credit on car and motorcycle policies? >>wow...ok! that's 15% on top of what geico could already save you. so what are you waiting for? idina menzel to sing your own theme song? ♪ tara, tara, look at her go with a fresh cup of joe. ♪ gettin' down to work early! ♪ following her dreams into taxidermy! oh, it's...tax attorney. ♪ i read that wrong, oh yeeaaaah!
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♪ ♪ gregg: north korean leader kim jong un regenting offers of -- rejecting offers of awed as his country continues to fight the coronavirus and now flooding that has reportedly damaged part of the country's main nuclear
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complex. recent flooding may have damaged two pump houses at that complex there which is suspected of being used to enrich weapons grade plutonium though it is believed the site was not or has not been active for a while. fred fleitz is former chief of staff for the national security council, he joins us now. fred, great to see you, as always. so the complex is adjacent to a river, the water has overflowed the banks. do we know the extent to which it may have damaged it? is this a setback for kim jong un's nuclear program? >> well, this is one of at least twelve covert nuclear weapons sites in north korea. and the issue here is, it's a five megawatt reactor which is a sense of plutonium. however, this reactor that is cooled from this body of water hasn't been active since 2008, and this think tank says there hasn't been any sign that it's been turned on since then. this is important because they were going to turn it on in 2017, and i'm not sure how many damage was done to this site. i think the main issue here is that this reactor has not been active in so long, and i believe that president trump's policies with north korea probably prevented it from being activated in 2017.
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gregg: speaking of which, are north korean leaders frustrated that president trump has held steady and firm, he is not backing down on his demands for a peace awe cord, and that is total denuclearization? >> yes, that's definitely the case. the north koreans are used to republican and democratic administrations who eventually give in. they offer some type of appeasement to north korea, some tube of concession because they're -- type of concession because they're desperate for agreement. donald trump doesn't think that way. he's been holding out for total denuclearization. the north koreans are waiting for the outcome of the election x they know that if joe biden is voted in, the appeasement and
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the goodies that they've gotten from previous presidents will resume. so i think that's one reason why we haven't seen any -- well, we haven't seen uptick in belligerent behavior by the north koreans over the last few months. gregg: i want the switch to iran because we just received word minutes ago that the embargo would be lifted inside 2020, it was a terrible agreement. now, the russians and china had to' toe it today, to this wasn't with going the pass. the next thing the trump administration is going to try to repeal -- try to reimpose all sanctions against iran using a snapback mechanism which was agreed to in a resolution that accompanied the nuclear deal. now, british, british, u.k., germany, russia, china, iran, they're claiming that president trump can't do that because he
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withdrew from the nuclear deal. but, see, the snapback is in a resolution passed to a company, and trump officials are arguing that, yes, we can. so we'll see what happens. gregg: real quickly, because i'm out of time here, but the u.s. has now seized iranian fuel from four tankers that was sailing for venezuela. those countries are trying to evade sakss, respect -- sanctions, aren't they? >> there's a massive violation of sanctions, something this administration isn't going to stand for. and i might add that iran was probably exporting gasoline because venezuela doesn't have any refineries. and it's basically we have a maximum pressure strategy against iran, and when statements try to violate it, this is what the u.s. is going to do. gregg: all right. fred fleitz, thank you so much. good to see you. coming up next, representative debbie lesko from the house homeland security committee on critics who worn that a biden presidency would -- to who warn that a biden
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♪ ♪ gregg: part of president trump's immigration reform includes enforcing a law allowing local governments to reach agreements with i.c.e. to help in federal immigration enforcement. if elected, joe biden promises to undo that policy, mirroring sanctuary laws in a few states and multiple cities, largely prohibiting this which critics warn would create a sanctuary country. let's welcome republican congresswoman debbie lesko of arizona, on the house homehand security committee. let me get this straight, congresswoman, so joe biden now wants to dismantle a law that he once supported, passed by bill clinton, stepped up by president trump. so i suppose one can add that to
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the long list of joe biden flip-flops, not that he would ever realize that. but would it turn the u.s. into a sanctuary country? >> i absolutely believe that it would. and it really doesn't surprise me because i serve as, you said, on homeland security committee, and i see it every day there in the u.s. congress. the democrats have become radical. they used to have some common sense, but now you have joe biden pairing up with kamala harris who has been voted as the most liberal senator in the u.s. senate, and so out doesn't really surprise me. and it just continues on this whole pattern by joe biden and the democrats that they want to prioritize the legal immigrants over u.s. citizens. i mean, just think about it -- gregg: right. >> -- they want to give free health care to illegals, they want the give work permits to
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illegals instead of american workers, and they want to not have -- they want to get rudd of this 287g where they don't -- they want to top local law enforcement -- to stop local law enforcement from working on helping do the, you know, the immigration laws, you know? so it's just insane, can i tell you it's it's insanity? gregg: well, that twines the ticket in so many -- defines the ticket in so many ways. one of the reasons president trump got elected four years ago, he took a very strong stand against all legal immigration. but given -- illegal immigration. but given all the other issues that now have commandeered the nation's attention be it the pandemic or the lawlessness and violence that seems to have spread to every american city operated by democrats, is immigration still going to be a
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vital, important electoral issue? >> it is, at least in arizona. and probably the other border states. i mean, the defunding and discuss mantling the police that the radicals are doing -- dismantling the police are doing, that's probably the number one issue because people are scared. here in arizona i would say illegal immigration is probably the number two issue. it's been a huge issue for many, many years because we see it firsthand. in fact, i'm going down to yuma, and president trump coming to yuma on tuesday. so i'll be greeting him there. and last time i was there with hum, which was just a little while ago, we signed a plaque dedicating 200 miles of new border fence being built. and so to president trump, he cares about america. it's america first to him. he cares about american workers. but over and over again you see biden and harris, they, they
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prioritize illegals. i just don't understand it at all. gregg: well, real quick question, will the border wall vanish if biden is elected? you won't have any border at all, and people will surge into the united states. and why not, because, you know, you get jobs and free health care. >> well, under biden and harris, out definitely be an open border. i see it firsthand in the congress, what my democratic colleagues are doing. they're becoming more and more radical. it doesn't even make sense. they want to release all the detainees from i.c.e., they don't want law enforcement to, you know, help with immigration laws, they don't want jails to work with i.c.e. they want to actually eliminate department of homeland security along with the police. it's absolute insanity, and that's why this election is so or are important. gregg: right. >> because president trump wants to keep our country safe, and he cares about american workers. these guys on the other side, biden and kamala harris, they
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have -- kamala harris especially -- really long record of prior tuesdaying illegals -- prioritizing illegals, loving sanctuary cities. this is wrong for america. gregg: representative debbie lesko of arizona, thank you very much for being with us. coming up next, more on the fallout over that former fbi attorney expected to plead guilty to falsifying a key document in the trump-russia probe. former trump impeachment defense team member robert ray is our guest next. ♪ ♪ hey, can i... hold on one second... sure. okay... okay! safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him!
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♪ ♪ gregg: more now on our top story. a former fbi lawyer expected to plead got altering an e-mail -- guilty to allering an e-mail. it is the first guilty plea in the criminal investigation into the origins of the trump-russia probe. let's bring in now robert ray, former trump impeachment defense team minister -- member and former white water independent come. and your skype went down but, fortunately, we still have telephones that function in america, robert. [laughter] thanks for taking the time to
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join us, robert. ing clinesmith's lawyer tried to peddle this today as just an innocent mistake. no, falsifying a document to dramatically change its meaning to the opposite of what it said, isn't that a deliberate, premeditated and malicious act? >> yes to all three. and because it also is indicative of a political motivation in order to have the investigation heene -- lean in a way that was favorable to an outcome that this particular lawyer wanted to accomplish, it's particularly pernicious and an example now with a felony guilty plea of the fact is that the deep state does exist. and the consequence of that is we're now seeing in an election cycle this investigation move
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forward with prosecutions. gregg, you correctly predicted that this was probably likely to be the first guilty plea. and it, obviously, now going to happen. gregg: you know, robert, the evidence is abundantly clear that james comey and andrew mccabe, formerly of the fbi, hated donald trump. and it drove their investigation, their political bias, their personal animus toward trump. and it wasn't just comey and mccabe, it was also peter strzok and his lover are, lisa page, who were trading aunt-trump text messages -- anti-trump text messages about the very man they were tasked to investigate. but clinesmith was also joining in sending e-mails and texts about how much he hated donald trump and republicans. i want to put one on the screen, here it is. this is clinesmith. i honestly feel like there's going to be a lot more gun issues too. the craze is finally won --
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crazies finally won. this is the tea party on steroids, expect gop is going to be lost. they have advanced a deal with an incumbent in four years, we have to fight this again. also vice president mike pence is stupid. with people like that in charge at the fbi, robert, is it any wonder that the russia hoax happened? >> really the answer, surprisingly even to me, and i've bee part of the criminal justice system for close to 30 years, i don't understand how this possibly could have happened. it surprises even me. and i have said, you know, for many years that the fbi, given the power that it has, if it goes awry, it is enormously dangerous. and this is an example of just how dangerous it can be. but, you know, also look at the human element.
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this is a 38-year-old lawyer who was a lawyer for the fbi who i threw his career away with what will become a felony conviction which means that he will be automatically e disbard. his legal -- disbarred. his legal career is over. but on top of all of that, the motivations here are enough to confirm that the deep state exists, and now what's going to happen next is political motivations are one thing, and that would be bad enough. there were people who actually crossed the line to alter documents, to give false testimony under oath, to ware to the accuracy -- swear to the accuracy of applications that they knew were not true. and those people once, you know, the evidence has developed and you find out what the intent was, out seems pretty clear that it's the attorney general's expectation that this will be first of several prosecutions to hold those who who are responsie for this to account. finish.
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gregg: you know, i've written two books on this summit, and still the i bet we only know about half the story because the cover-up has been so sedulous by those involved. just a few days ago we received yet another declassified document that shows that in 2018 the fbi lieud to -- lied to the senate intelligence committee. they assured senators that the dossier was credible, that christopher steele, the author, was reliable, that the subsource had verified the information. all of that was a lie. the fbi had discredited and debunked him. isn't lying to senators a crime? >> it is. it's prosecutable under the false statement statute and/or the perjury statute if the testimony was provided under oath. and if, for example, andy mccabe was responsible for providing talking points for testimony along those lines, he may be, well be the next person
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held to account. so, yeah, those are the things you want to be looking for; obstruction of justice, altering dock units, providing false system under oath, swearing out fisa court applications under oath that you know to be false. if it can be proved those individuals who did that knew that at the time they made those representations that the representations were false, you can expect that there will be prosecutions, and this is the first of just what i expect to be many. gregg: you know, when the fbi tracked down christopher steele's source, the primary source of information for husband phony dossier and the guy laughed and said, are you kidding me in this is speculation, conjecture, rumor, up you went doe for random associates and my drinking buddies, it's not verified or true, shouldn't james comey's fbi have gone immediately to the fisa court and said we apologize, we withdraw our application to surveil carter
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page? and isn't their failure to do that a continuing fraud on the court? >> it would have required intestinal fortitude and courage, political or otherwise, to do that, and that would have been the right thing to do, and thaw didn't do it. and when there was discussion, for example, the oval office about trying to predicate an investigation under the logan act, which they knew better, was not appropriate, there should have been an adult in the room, somebody from the president on down to say, hey, wait a second, you know, this is potentially politically motivated, and somebody needs to put a stop to this. and we now know that none of that happened. all the way through the collection of people that are the usual suspects; susan rice, sally yates, jim comey, clapper, brennan -- gregg: right. >> -- vice president biden, president obama. none of them. they all had an opportunity to say, what? this is wrong and out needs to
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stop. they didn't do it. gregg: robert ray, many thank, sir. have a great weekend. and that does it. i'm gregg jarrett in for elizabeth macdonald. you watching "the evening ed >> it's a collection most any girl would die for... >> it's almost too much barbie for a girl. >> ...a houseful of dolls from all over the world. >> you couldn't even walk into the room. there were thousands. >> so what makes this inheritance so strange? [ clockwork music playing ] say hello to the heir. >> "mother, why -- me being a boy, why was it dolls?" >> she had a dying wish. >> "please don't throw these dolls away. find a home for them." and that's what i want to do. >> but does the man have a plan? >> they call me the "doll boy." [ laughs ] >> how's that working out for you? >> i thought, "you can call me whatever you want. i've got a pretty good

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