heckuva play. >> todd bubba horowitz, always great to see you. thank you for being here. take a look at this right now, the s&p 500, new milestone, the nasdaq, new record in the dow is now positive for the year, that is it for me, sending it over to connell and melissa "after the bell". >> a record week on wall street, the s&p extending its winning streak closing at a record high for the sixth straight trading day, it is the nasdaq 40th record close of the year, the dow is now down positive for the year, we will take it, the dow has not closed in the green in 2020 since february, the index is 4% away from the record close, happy friday, melissa francis, hey connell. connell: i'm connell mcshane, welcomed "after the bell", these are some market numbers if you look for the week the dow is up

more than 2% and the s&p and nasdaq at more than 3% a piece for the week and the s&p and the green, five weeks in a row and that the longest winning streak since december, the dow on track to have for august since 1984. so the run keeps going for stocks, we will talk a lot about it, number of stories were covering with fox business team coverage, edward lawrence, blake berman, sit down jerry, we start with edward in washington. >> a quick flight back to jacksonville, part of the gains that we saw here in the markets could be related directly to the federal reserve and the action that the fed took yesterday, the federal reserve president said it's an evolution, not a revolution specifically related to averaging to achieve the average of a 2% target in an inflation, the federal reserve trying to see if they can make things average about 2%, they're saying that the people will not see the prices of the things that they buy jump noticeably, what they're looking for is the price stability, less than an

hour ago the federal reserve president patrick says he's looking at a bumpy nike swoosh recovery but it's all about confidence of the consumer. >> most of the economy is consumer spending, 70%, consumers do not trust that they are safe, they're not quite to spend the money. even if there is not a shutdown formally, people will pull back, i think we need open cautiously, prudently and gain people's trust that they can return to the movie theater or to the dining establishment and do that safely with their families. >> it is interesting in all of this, all the federal reserve president i spoke with over the past few weeks said the oc record bounce back in the third quarter, the dallas federal reserve president says we will see a 20% bounce back in the third quarter, 9% bounce back in the fourth quarter, still he sees gdp growth in 2214% so the

federal reserve is focused on unemployment and the dallas federal president says he will see those record number on a payment rates in the near-term. >> we still, even by the end of 20 to one based on our forecast will not be a full implement and it'll take us longer into 2022 to start approaching full employment. >> he sees unemployment about 8% the individual in 6.5% at the end of next year, harker sees unemployment 9% at the end of this year end 7% at the end of next year. connell: thank you, edward lawrence, the president in the meantime is expected to leave the white house later this hour he has a campaign rally scheduled for new hampshire this evening after accepting the republican nomination in making a speech on the south lawn of the white house last night, as we get closer to the election, were going to start to look into things like what do the

candidates plans that they made public mean for your money. gerri willis has been doing work on that, she's been working so hard she barely made it in time for the show today, reporting for the last second drink this right now with the breakdown. >> called the start, you might be asking which candidate is best for your wallet, tax policy is really where these candidates show their cards. listen. >> we don't need a tax code that rewards wealth more than it rewards work. >> i will cut taxes even further for hard working moms and dads. >> here are the facts, biden is pursuing a tax of rich strategy targeting households during $400,000 by increasing the top marginal rate 39.6%.

trump on the other hand, totally different he wants to cut taxes for the middle class with using the marginal tax rate to 15% for individuals earning a little over $40000 in for married couples filing jointly earning a little and in excess of $80000 a year. the payroll tax cut we've heard a lot about it but no details yet, if you're an investor, biden wants a bigger bite of your gains, he would tax capital gains at ordinary tax rates while trump will cut the tax rate below the current 20%. biden's tax hike expected to raise about $3.3 trillion or more and bankrolls among other things. caregivers and expanded earned income tax credit. the big thing here, experts say there's no guarantee that the money that biden proposes to raise by hiking your taxes what actually cover what he wants to

spend. connell: gerri willis has some problems with her technology for the moment. melissa: i think it was an evil plot to keep her from rebuilding what is going on with everyone's tax plans and were knocking to be stymied by that, i'm going to bring on steve forbes, forbes media chairman to react to all of this, let me play you a soundbite from the president last night, how he sized up his plan versus joe biden's. listen. >> biden wants to keep us completely in the dark, he pledged $4 trillion tax hike on all american families which will totally collapse are rapidly improving economy and once again record stock market right now will also collapse but we will also provide tax credits to bring jobs out of china, back to

america and we will impose tariffs on any company that leaves america to produce jobs overseas. melissa: steve, let's break down what he just said, some of those things what about the idea of offering tax credits to companies that bring jobs back to the u.s., they could also do instant depreciation on any sort of capital investment, what do you think? >> rather than trying to be that specific, i hope they just do that in terms of expensing and do it across the board because that will help the economy, don't try to say if you come from this country or that country, do it across the board, we did a little bit in the tax cut that was passed in 2017 and we gotta make that permanent and expanded, that is one way to encourage investment. melissa: joe biden says he only wants to raise taxes on people to make more than $400,000 a year but we know that is not true, he wants to put the

obamacare tax right back in that has absolutely everybody, no matter what your income level is and he wants to raise taxes on corporations which democrats think are in animate objects but you know that cost is borne by labor at least 20% if not more. what impact would that have on wages and jobs in the economy if we raise taxes on corporations. >> that plus the increase in capital gains tax would take us back to the 1970s, a decade of stagnation would be a disaster, and be a disaster not only because it takes more money out of people's pockets but also hurts investment, destroys savings, destroys -- that's where gets capital, without investment, you stagnate, you don't have money to expand businesses, start new businesses, replace old equipment and the like. what he's recommended is what they have in europe and that is perpetual slow growth and for 40 years, most european countries have like ds in smaller economies and should have more

room for more growth. in the big reason is the taxation, what's it going to her all people because when you have those kind of taxes working people have less opportunity to get good jobs and move up to higher-paying jobs. >> i think larry kudlow might've said it best when he said who in their right mind would raise taxes on anyone right now given what's going on by the economy. >> absolutely risk economy is in convalescence and recovering better than most people thought but still in a state were a lot more ground has to be made up especially in service industries like restaurants and so the sooner we get the vaccine the better but also by putting those taxes back on your going to trash the economy and hurt the economic recovery and what that will do the federal reserve will be under pressure to. more money which i guarantee you

this time will create inflation and a real economic crisis. so what biden is recommending has gone back to the 1970s, stagnation, inflation and what kind air that was, we don't need a repeat, i'm old enough to remember and i don't want to see it again, that's a movie i don't want to see again. melissa: definitely not, we sell records on wall street, the president said if biden were collected that would go away, is not too strong or an overstatement. >> absolutely not, the market is counting on the fact that good times are going to be coming, assuming were going to get a vaccine or vaccine by early next year, so there will be no more excuses for lockdowns and the like and it's also assuming move out good economic growth the rest of this year going into next year. in biden with a 40% plus capital gains tax, that would be a

disaster, remember tens of millions of americans, hundreds of millions of americans have 401ks, iras and the like and millions other people have defined benefit plans depending on how well the stock market does to makegood those promises, this is not just about rich people this is about every working person who wants to look forward to retirement with real assets instead of shrinking assets, growing assets that are shrinking. melissa: steve forbes, thank you so much as always we appreciate it. , over to you. connell: we follow that up with the people just back after a couple of weeks on the road and were out there speaking to voters in five swing states about the issues that matter most and what it can mean for the race this year and will follow up on what we learned in a moment, new guidelines for schools, new york city reaching a deal with the regions largest teacher union, some officials are sounding the alarm in hurricane laura leading a path of destruction across texas and louisiana and were live on the ground in lake charles where things stand now.

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the top down. >> i'm going to vote republican ticket. >> he reduced taxes, he's eliminated the payroll tax to the rest of the year to support the people, straight up economic. >> i'm not decided. >> really why? mark what do you think about. >> looking to both candidates to see which one makes the difference, i'm a good 401k and see how my stock makes a difference and will make a difference for me. >> you done pretty well under trump, does that make you likely you will vote. >> while joe biden is a lawful guy. >> people are struggling and losing the home. >> you think because of the economy, it's going to hurt the president. >> first time ever democratic voter. >> wow. >> too much nonsense, too much bs, too many lies, done with it. >> and you voted republican. >> all my life. >> some of the swing state voters and obviously still

divided, we have two months to go until election day in president trump's path to the white house four years ago ran through those five states that we visited defeating hillary clinton and all five, if you look at the numbers this cycle, mr. trump has been trailing in the same state and it'll be interesting, there is some evidence, there is a tie, there is some evidence that is starting to tighten, the hills editor-in-chief because a few weeks ago there were bigger leads and some of the swing states and if you average them together there's only a three-point lead in the battlegrounds and how do you see the rates race in those states with the ones that matter. >> i do think it is tightening and i think the president will get a bit of a bump from his convention and i think it's interesting the voters that you guys talk to you, you found undecided voter and they are out there but there aren't many of

them, there's others whether they're leaning towards trump or leaning toward biden, the polls show that they can be had and i think one is where the economy is going which is tied to covid-19 and the other one is the debate, and who does better in the debates, this is still a tight race. connell: on the point about the debates, especially last week because that's when we went to wisconsin and also to pennsylvania, there were a number of people, there were a number of people who said they voted for president trump last time around who were undecided who hadn't quite committed to biden and that's when you start to think, sometimes he's a little older, whatever the case may be in there waiting for the debate, it is funny, there are undecided people out there. >> as far as risk which is tied to the economy, the markets as you know were doing very well and unemployment has obviously spiked, it's not where crisis ends in their work the crisis

begins, tweets and, come october if the united states is getting on top of the virus and things are getting better in the unemployment rate is going down, that's big however, with the flu and covid that's a bad combination, that will hurt the president. connell: the presidents numbers in terms of odds and reelection if you look at that thing they track the number of cases right now it's as simple as that in the cases are coming down in the presidents numbers seem to go up on covid-19 and as you heard from voters, a lot of people brought that up to us in particular people who are frustrated with the president, what about the violence in the cities and the effect on suburban voters because that seems to be one of the things the president is hoping to capitalize on after the development especially in the last few weeks. >> that is very smart for the trump team, they know their numbers with suburban women have to improve with independence which swung toward trump in 2016

away from hillary clinton, i think seizing on these issues and you seen the video, outside of the white house after people like senator rand paul was leaving and you see those videos and those are not good for democrats and democrats did not address it during the convention, they're starting to address it more, suburban women swung toward democrats in 2018 and that's why the house flipped, their key voting block in the party that gets a block especially significantly will win november 3. connell: it's those two issues, the virus in the violence in the cities that have the biggest effect. last point on states, the last state that we went to after all the other ones was florida and at the end of the day if you play around with the map, i don't think there's no way for the president to win without technically his home state, that is the key.

>> i talked to this week jim mcglocklin for an event that we hosted and he is trump's top holster and he said absolutely florida is a must win and when you do the calculations even republicans are acknowledging, we must win florida and it's very close, they're gonna be spending a ton of money in florida and democrats think that they can take it and it's the beginning of 2016 when you knew it was going to be a surprise, donald trump is one florida and then he moved on in one michigan and wisconsin in pennsylvania. florida, there's some state that biden has to win like virginia. but trump has to win florida. connell: the way to do that is a better economy and recovery from the virus, is probably as simple as that, state that close on the margin. >> i think it's as simple as that, the virus at first was okay and that it was really bad and it seems to be getting better, the data overall may slide, it's getting a little bit better but will we take a step back like we did a month or so

ago. >> always good to see you, bob from the hill, joining us. melissa: room for negotiation, a $1.3 trillion stimulus package and blake is here with the details. >> the white house chief of staff telling us this afternoon if you were presented with this president trump would be supportive and sign a $1.3 trillion phase for relief measure. here's why this is important, the white house initial stance as they supported a trillion dollar package, senate republicans put forth essentially that 1.1 trillion, 1.3, they are starting to move up, still though the chief of staff saying it was not high enough for the democrat top negotiator nancy pelosi when the two spoke yesterday. listen. >> the president is willing to sign that today and she said no, it is 2.2 and when i asked her what made up the 2.2 trillion dollar figure, she says i'm not going to tell you, that is not

how a negotiation happens. >> pelosi said in a statement after that phone call between herself and mark meadows in part, this conversation made clear that the white house continues to disregard the need of the american people as the coronavirus crisis devastates lives and livelihood. it is so very clear that both sides here are at a stalemate but you can also say this is how a negotiation works, you got a big gap, one side moves up another side moves down and maybe they can meet in the middle at some point time, however, keep in mind at this point when you talk about the white house and talking about 1.3 trillion in nancy pelosi talking about 2.2 trillion, that is still roughly a 900 billion-dollar gap before you ever even get into the details of what's in there. melissa: what's in it, i'm not going to tell you. i know you are but one of my. i don't know. it sounds horrible.

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melissa: protests in kenosha, wisconsin remaining mostly come for the second night in a row for after several days of violence over the police shooting of jacob blake, grady trimble has been in kenosha all week and he joins us now with the latest. >> this is the second full day and night a peaceful protest but this is the city still reeling from the destruction and the violence from the previous days in the week when things really got out of control in the city, in a press conference this afternoon as we move into the more recent news items, the police chief of kenosha was asked about jacob blake's current condition, he's in a

hospital in his family cities restraint to the hospital but which is upsetting to them, the chief explained that saying an outside agency is guarding him and is under arrest on the third degree sexual assault charge from a previous incident, last night as we mentioned for the second night in a row, everything remained by and large peaceful but law enforcement announced more than 50 people were arrested earlier in the week on curfew violations and weapons charges including one protester who had a flamethrower, president trump took credit for this in a tweet this afternoon and took credit for the increased enforcement including from the federal government the local officials point out that more people are complying to the curfew, however, they say they are ramping up for the weekend that the people for law enforcement who are here are not leaving because the city is not out of the woods. >> i don't know that i was him concerned but were definitely keeping track on the weekend it's a different dynamic so in

conjunction with the local authorities we are making sure that were prepared that anything might come up over the weekend. >> the national guard would not specify how many national guard members are here but they said the number is more than a thousand with even more on the way from several different parts of the country. this shooting of jacob blake has also rocked the world with the mba leaving the boycott in every major sports league that is active right now also canceling or postponing games this week, the nhl will not have playoff games tonight because of the shooting of jacob blake and same things happen with an lb in wnba games earlier in the week the mba did announce that it is resuming play and also announce some initiatives to combat wooden called social injustice, it will convert its arenas to polling places when they are not in use this november. melissa: interesting, thank you for the update.

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connell: a call from the principal's office or their union at least, new york city mayor bill de blasio striking a deal with teachers union of the council supervisor and administrators calling the hybrid plan indispensable. why would be future children it is horrible. let's bring a bill, wall street journal columnist in a fox news contributor, bill, color me deeply suspicious, they were talking about striking before school started, seems like that may not be the case, will we ever know what kind of a deal was struck and what was given away to avoid the strike. >> i don't think we'll know the specifics and that but we have learned what happens when you have school systems that is accountable to unions in the principal union or the teachers union, the kids come last and that's overseen, the last week of the republican convention, this is what you saw, americans are learning that their school

systems are not necessarily geared to educate their children as a first priority, the cdc says that the public health measure to get kids back in the classroom and were playing all the political games and now they have a cockamamie hybrid solution, in person learning in class and learning remotely that nobody likes. melissa: some of the reasoning was they say they don't want to ride public transportation and they don't feel safe, nevermind all of us who have been in the city riding the subway inviting the buses, all of the essential workers who have gone to the grocery store and done all of the things that they're being asked to do, but they say they don't feel safe doing that and that's one reason they don't want to go, they also want to mandate that everybody on the school campus, all the kids and everybody who steps on has a test and i'm wondering, is that

even remotely realistic and what you make of a man like that? >> they are not realistic, the demands are made not to be met, they are made to be difficult, the backdrop says the one thing he points out, these people say something for them but they want the clerks at the grocery store in the liquor store and wherever you go to be open for when they need those people, the other thing that needs to be said is that catholic schools in new york which is a pretty significant chunk of the population, they are reopening and my guess is they will do better by covid-19 and education despite having far fewer resources than the public schools. new york city spends $28808 per pupil to the independent budget office, that's the highest in america and they cannot do this, the teachers union are complaining about a shortage, this is the system that is not

serving parents or children and i think it's been exposed for what it is. melissa: it was fascinating, a lot of the schools in new york made a big move to say we are opening, we are opening in person and try to get some of the students especially because many parents who are still here in new york have to go to new york, it's a wealthy people who have left and gone somewhere else who are in the hamptons and had gone to connecticut in florida who have left the state and those people can school remotely or going to school somewhere else that the working people who have to show up for work in new york don't know what they're going to do with their kids during the day if the schools don't open and there being forced to work and i send my son to target all day long and that's legal but somehow not safe for him to go to school every day.

how did the unions defend that, a lot of teachers want to go back to work and we don't want to weigh this at the doorstep, there being pressured by their own union not to comply,. >> i think you're absolutely right, this is a problem with the top down one-size-fits-all monopoly on public education. we need more flexibly, i am a little sympathetic with the principles in the sense if you are running a real system that was truly concerned about the science and following the cdc guidelines, i think you would have to get principles, options and flexibility so they can deal with their particular needs, this looks like a top-down thing imposed on the school which is the way the public schools answer. that's why i go back to the convention, this week we saw school choice mention passionately american parents are learning that like you say the working mom, what did she do, she cannot go to work and

for kids are at home in the cdc made the same point you did, a disproportionate impact on foreign minority kids who may not have the resources to hire a tutor or take your kid out and put them in a peripheral school or moved or send them to grandma somewhere in a suburban town where there opening. i think we are seeing the crooks in the system and the pretense that is designed to serve students, and designed to serve teachers unions, does that pretty well. melissa: that is the biggest point, this kind of move hurts low-income import children so much more than it does the others, thank you so much for coming on, we appreciate it. connell: were going to shift to the aftermath of hurricane laura in a moment in the cleanup efforts are underway in

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melissa: devastation on the golf course, hurricane laura leaving texas and louisiana reeling. jeff flock is in charles

louisiana. >> what you are looking at is everywhere in lake charles louisiana, trees on homes, that's the biggest problem for these homes, we got a picture of the house down the block where the house had a tree right through the whole, a huge tree it had been sodded off, it's been happening all over town and i want to catch up with carl if i can who has lived here a good long while, you can imagine he is probably from louisiana for good old time, your house, fortunately you are not here. >> how better thing. >> pretty total, we will probably have to tear down and start all over. >> in terms of power you said you thought it would be a month before you get power. >> and think at least a month, it will be pretty bad.

>> you guys are tough, i know, but i'm sweating standing here it's going to be tough power for a month. i won't be here, will be back and forth and staying at a neighbors house where they have power. >> this is everywhere as i said, burgess flipped over top. >> yes or, when the storm came above and came in at the east wind and took it off. >> before we get away, your neighbor had to cut his wife out of the room, what happened. >> she was upstairs in one of the trees fell and blocked the door so he had to cut her hole to get out. >> life and account for hurricane. you gotta try it someday. maybe not. melissa: i think not, those incredible pictures, thank you for that, unbelievable. connell: more with the state attorney general in louisiana

joins me no and obviously we heard and saw that people in your state or going through a lot in a bigger picture, how are you doing, what is update today. >> it's a pretty big situation in louisiana and i spent all day yesterday in lake charles where you just showed interviewed a gentleman but what's important to recognize is that all the way from south louisiana to northeast louisiana, and had almost a 45-degree angle, there's destruction, power equivalent to economies that are completely out of power as far as washington average to munro in the northeast section to alexandria, the devastation in lake charles is utterly amazing and reminds me of hurricane michael that affected the panhandle a couple of years ago and i was there helping people in the aftermath of that storm, the biggest challenge that lake

charles has his water, of a couple of parishes around the area and municipal water systems are just down it's one thing that have electricity and it's another not have water. >> how is covid complicating things and what would you like to see done in terms of the states movement between phases, another governor before the steam came in was going to stay in phase two and now that the storm hit what should happen now and how is it complicating things at all. >> i think it's couple katie no light, the cove account has been dropping significantly over the past couple weeks or so and i can tell you were way more concerned about the infection disease, when you don't have water and you don't have electricity in utilities, i think we got out of phase two and went to phase three, i think were a lot better off and again, there is way more concern about

the quality of life with people in affected areas and worrying about covid, we know what the disease is now, we know who it primarily affects and went to segregate that with the population out, we have to do a cleaning this thing out. melissaconnell: i believe presit trump is going to visit over the weekend and will you see him and more importantly what specifically do you need right now from the federal government. >> look i certainly am hoping to be there tomorrow when the president is scheduled to be in lake charles i'm going to be making of a flyover and meeting with congressman in the lake charles area, i think the thing is, two things, number one we need to streamline the paperwork and make sure that the local

government is able to access the assets as quickly and efficiently and effectively as possible. i spoke to the mayor and westlake who told me that we can't simply get diesel to run a generator for their sewage plans and water plants in the westlake area which is west of the city of lake charles, he's been asking for plane diesel for 24 hours and he was called down and has diesel been delivered and he's like in my going to get reimbursed, he cannot wait and i think that's the biggest frustration, sometimes a bureaucratic paperwork in this process overwhelms the system and these elected officials especially the mayor, the sheriff, the parishes, the administrative's will be able to access the assets as quickly and effectively as possible.

>> that's an important point that we've seen in past storms when the help gets there but when it gets there because people need it right away, jeff all the best the state attorney general and louisiana. thank you for calling in. melissa: all those things so true, restaurants repair for new obstacles once a summer in the city of chicago is hoping residents have a solution announcing a winter design challenge asking for people to submit their ideas and how to safely operate outdoor dining through the winter months offering $5000 prizes for the most creative and feasible ideas, i love it. ♪ that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. so, what do you provide? cookie cutter portfolios? nope. we tailor portfolios to our client's needs. but you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right? we don't have those. so, what's in it for you? our fees are structured so we do better

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reach of the american dream. >> president trump is advancing the american values of work and family. >> my fellow americans, tonight with a heart full of gratitude and boundless optimism, i profoundly accept this nomination for president of the united states. [cheers and applause] melissa: i have to tell you, connell, the biggest treat of the last week or so has been hearing regular people go out and talk. we saw a lot of the headliners just now in that montage, but to see the real human beings that spoke during the convention to talk about their experience or their experience during the trump administration and then to hear the people, yours on the street, i just -- we've all been in our bubbles for so long, that was my favorite part. how about you? connell: yeah, i agree. and also probably the most effective part, maybe in both

conventions particularly because it's fresh in our mind with the republicans this week, small business owners and people like that in terms of messaging. but, yeah, getting out and talking to the voters, i was talking about it with bob cusack, everyone's like, oh, there are no undecideds. there are, and those are the people who will decide this thing, and we ran into them in a number of states. it's interesting -- melissa: are you sure they just didn't want to tell you what they were thinking? [laughter] connell: yeah. honestly, there actually could be, no joke, a few like that. but there were a few that i'm most curious about the people who voted for trump, for the president last time around and are just not quite sure whether they're going to jump onboard with biden. and bob pointed out it all comes down to these debates, and they're going to be different this year, we think. they're supposed to still are have three of them, but with the virus and, you know, the conventions weren't watched by as many people in a, quote-unquote normal year, so

there's even more riding on what promises to be a close race. anyway, a fun couple weeks and hope everybody has a good weekend. we will see you back here on monday. thanks for joining us, and it's "lou dobbs tonight" that starts right now. take care. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump making a return to the campaign trail today, holding a campaign event this evening in new hampshire. the president's event in londonderry, his first in-person rally since tulsa, oklahoma, back in june. and president trump is sure to be fired up after he formally accepted the republican party's nomination last night. president trump speaking before nearly 2,000 people, the white house providing a magnificent backdrop to the climax of a powerful republican convention made all the more complex by the china