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"fox news poll" says protests in cities are actually riots. update to the story we brought you, with us tonight, california congressman devin nunes, he is the ranking republican on house intelligence. he says members of special counsel's robert mueller's trump russia team may have obstructed justice after government document surfaced showing they wiped clean dozens of government phones. many, wiped, quote, accidentally, before the justice department's inspector general could investigate these phones for potential bias against trump. plus another update. reports coming in u.s. attorney john durham may be on the verge of releasing an interim in his criminal inquiry into the trump russia prone. we'll talk to former house oversight chair jason chaffetz about what could be coming. plus this story, news breaking in the fight over democrats shutdown orders. a federal judge has stuck down as unconstitutional the democrat governor of pennsylvania's

covid-19 restrictions, again saying they're unconstitutional. they force people to stay home and much more. this after president trump was criticized for holding a rally in pennsylvania. look who is with us, trump 2020 senior advisor steve cortez with us tonight. we're going to talk to theologian jonathan morris about the deafening silence from faith leaders not talking to their conversations about the violent riots that destroyed so many lives, left some shot dead, so many copes shot and burned businesses and communities to the ground. are faith leaders failing the victims? are they failing their congregations. are they failing the perpetrators not doing enough to say stop it? not being honest with anybody, critics ask is silence the way to peace, the way to stop the chaos. growing concern that trump's border security advantage will come undone. we have more on the democrats

plan. texas congressman brian babin joins us tonight. i'm elizabeth macdonald. the even egg edit starts right now. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. a major manhunt still underway after two los angeles county sheriffs deputies were shot in the head as they sat in their patrol saturday night in compton, california. 100,000-dollar reward leading to the arrest of the gunman, seen on surveillance video seen shooting the officers. 31-year-old mother of a 6-year-old child and 24-year-old man. they were both shot multiple times. they were sworn into duty months ago. reports look like they will be able to recover. doctors are calling this quote a double miracle. the wounded female deputy was able to radio for help. she is being called a hero. she was shot through the jaw.

she applied a tourniquet to the male deputy's wounds. the sheriff's office had to demand rioters stop blocking doors to the emergency room at the hospital where the deputies were. they were shouting quote, "we hope they die." welcome former nypd lieutenant darren porcher to the show. your reaction to the reports? >> thanks for having me on, elizabeth this is a unfortunate traumatic incident what happened in l.a. county. we have two heroes sitly, speaking sitting in their police vehicles. i see extreme parallels inn what happened to 2014 with the shootings of lew and ramos in connection with a crazed gunman, took arbitrary action shooting, killing officers here in new york. this madman tried to commit the same action this was an attempted assassination an assassination or shooting of a police officer is an attack on all of society because police

officers represent the social contract in protecting citizens of los angeles. elizabeth: lieutenant, you're reaction to the surveillance video of the shooting. talk to us about who they could be looking for, who law enforcement could be looking for? is it an adult? is this speculation or could be a teenager or minor? this is speculation. no information what he sorry on this but video appears to show the shooter is not tall enough. his head does not clear the top of the window of the police car. could they be looking for a teenager too? >> that is very difficult to make that assessment. often times law enforcement captures of images of individuals on a crime, based on height, weight of individual difficult to make the assessment could this be someone of south american descent. could it be an american, teenager, et cetera. we want to capture the video and

leapfrog from one video to the next video. what police will do, they will connect with other videos in that same area to attempt to assess possible vehicle that that individual entered, the escape route that they used, et cetera. so it is very difficult to make the assessment now. it is multifaceted in connection with who it could have been in the wake of the violent protests that have been occurring, it can be a multitude of different people or actors that would have been responsible for this. elizabeth: you know, president trump is in california meeting with officials over the wildfires there all of that is going on in california too as this is happening. law enforcement have repeatedly warned that antifa and anarchists targeted cops across the country. we know that the fbi is warning police nationwide that antifa and other violent rioters are planning arrests even after the election, weeks after. both president trump and joe biden were visibly angry today.

both condemned the shooting. president trump culling calling for a fast trail with the possibility of the death penalty. your response to those reports? >> i commend both vice-presidential hopeful biden and president trump speaking out against this act of vitriol. this is the time that we need to unify as both parties against people that committees horrific acts against law enforcement. but in connection with who it is, it is very difficult to assess this is lone wolf attack or this is an organized surgical strike from one of these groups such as antifa or black lives matter. the truth of the matter, this is a problem, many criminals feel as though they can act with impunity in the wake of riots that have been plaguing the nation. unfortunately the left has been driving the sentiment for this vitriol that is committing to riots and unrest in a lot of the

major cities throughout the united states. elizabeth: we're in dangerous ground right now. you know, the criticism has been leaders need to step up to come together to stop this. your reaction to the city manager of lynn wood, california, posting on instagram saying quote, the chickens have come home to roost after they were ambushed. naacp national president said there is no such thing as blue lives. there is no statement from black lives matter leaders condemning the shootings. your response, outrage over the protesters trying to block the hospital emergency room doors? >> my reaction to that these are complete lunatics and they have no place in our society. we need to understand what police officers do and police officers are basically the glue that mend as level of, a saneness to our society in connection with enforcing the laws that are on the books. in addition to that, there is another video where as you have a group of people that are

spectators to when the officers are shot, they are embracing this with laughter. it really begs the question of the societal norm or pendulum switching to the extreme left. this seismic shift needs to be stopped. we have too many people feel they can act with impunity. elizabeth: lieutenant, the media is talking a lot about a study that says 93% of the demonstrations have been peaceful. that does not discuss the fact that they're, that 570 riots, they have been violent riots. nearly 600 violent riots have ripped through the nation in 220 towns and cities across the country since may. dozens now dead. businesses and communities burned, torched to the ground. nearly 7800 black lives matter demonstrations in all 50 states. so when they talk about studies saying most of them are peaceful and mask the truth underneath that, that nearly 600 riots have

been violent. more voters than ever consider black lives matter demonstrations in three cities, new york, portland and kenosha to be riots, not protests, what is reaction to the "fox news poll" and other data we gave you? >> i believe the riots plaguing society need to be stopped. there needs to be some level of a moratorium. i also blame social media. when we look to a couple of weeks ago the miracle mile up in chicago, this was a concerted effort on social media to have people conjoin to go riot in the miracle milocation in chicago. this is happening quite frequently. social media is a platform. social media outlets yet to put a moratorium on this. a lot of this is amplified as peaceful protests. i demet i cannily oppose that. i live in new york city, i have seen the damage, chaos plaguing

the riots in a place like new york where i live. elizabeth: lieutenant, darren porcher. thanks for your service to our country. come back soon. great to have you on. >> thanks, elizabeth. elizabeth: coming up a critical update to a story we brought you. california republican devin nunes, he is the ranking republican on house intelligence, he joins us next, with his take on why he thinks members of the mueller trump-russia probe team may have obstructed justice after reports that members of the mueller team wiped clean dozens of government phones, many, quote, accidentally, before the justice department's inspector general can investigate the phones for bias against trump. republican devin nunes is our guest next. >> clearly after that everybody on the mueller team went and wiped their phone. so the question here is, was there an investigation because if there was that could be obstruction of justice? i think regardless of that, this is destruction of federal records.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪. elizabeth: welcome back. let's bring in california congressman devin nunes. great to have you on. ranking republican of house intelligence. are you now saying members of special counsel robert mueller's team may have obstructed justice after dozens of their government phones were found to be wiped clean of data, many accidentally, before the dojig could investigate them for

potential bias against trump is that what you're saying. >> in addition to that we have an investigation that has been looking at everything mueller's team has been doing or did. it makes it a little difficult now when you go back, if they don't have a record that is even there to go back to look at the decisions they were making. this is only for the firms part of when the mueller team was first stood up. i hope everybody understands that. thank god for "judicial watch" and tom fitton and his group that was able to get these because doj has been actually blocking these from getting out. it makes it a little hard to do an investigation, when, one, we don't get the information and two, when you finally do get the information there is no information there because they wiped their phones. let's be clear here, liz. so people understand, they may claim that it is an accident and claim well they were just following the rules, no. i don't know one person in, i run into a lot of people, and if somebody has ever done this, let

me know, but 10 times you would have had to reset your, we had to go through put the wrong password in. 10 times. one of my staff actually very knowledgeable about this, actually walked me through the process how complicated it would be to have this accident, have this accident on 30 phones. it is just preposterous. it didn't happen. elizabeth: congressman, senate finance chair chuck grassley wants answers from the justice department and the fbi whether this was a widespread intentional effort. senator ron johnson, chair of homeland security, doj horowitz to investigate. i think you're saying these phones were wiped after peter strzok and lisa page were found to have been sending bias anti-trump text messages, that what you're saying? because reports are coming in, the government documents show a gap in text messages for peter strzok and lisa page, what they were texting each other between

december 15, 2016, through may 2017 a lot was going on then. the flynn case was falling apart. the flynn perjury trap was being discussed behind scenes at fbi. >> right. elizabeth: the fbi's trump russia case was falling apart. a lot was going on in the interim, appears no text messages between strzok and page for that time period. >> you also have to remember, nearly all the people that were selected to be on mueller's team were close clinton confidantes. how that happened we probably will never get the answer. i'm not sure mueller is even capable of answering that because when he was here in congress a little over year ago he didn't know what was in his own report. so when i look at that group of lawyers that was put together and you now, we can also piece together, this is just, this is an important fact that can't be lost on people, they knew there was no evidence of trump colouing colluding with russia. they also knew the people that

had written the dossier had connections to russia and worked for russia and a lot of the sources probably had been compromised. all those lawyers knew that the fbi knew that at the time. the lawyers that came on the mueller team knew that at the time. i say when mueller walked in the door on day one he knew they had no evidence. they started running an obstruction of justice trap. i will tell you, i hope a lot of these lawyers come forward because the way that they treated lawyers that were representing a lot of people whose lives were ruined, innocent americans lives were ruined by these people, and there was so much misconduct there, whether it is the flynn case or others, now you can't even go back and look at federal records? i guess they learned from hillary clinton, their former boss you can destroy a hard drive get away with it. they have done this and will get away with it. >> strzok and pages phones were wiped clean and set back to factory settings. they were important members of the investigation of hillary

clinton's private email servers. that was about the destruction of federal records too. peter strzok is saying he regrets sending these texts after the fact. he said it again over the weekend but saying quote, these texts have been weaponized against the fbi. your reaction to peter strzok's claim there? >> look this, is a guy who never belonged at the fbi, sure as hell didn't debelong in counterintelligence. you never use countier intelligence to investigate another political party. he did that. he has to live with that. it is our job to make sure the american people and everyone around the world knows how disgusting what demented creeps these people were. elizabeth: all right. devin nunes, thank you so much for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: good to see you. oak. up next, former house oversight chair jason chaffetz on reports that u.s. attorney john durham may be on the verge of releasing an interim report in his criminal inquiry into the trump-russia probe as both

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. u.s. attorney john durham may be on the verge of releasing an interim report in his criminal inquiry into the russia investigation. that is according to news reports. welcome former house oversight chair jason chaffetz back to the show. great to have you back on. what is your reaction to that? a.g. barr, senate judiciary chair lindsey graham indicated a significant development may be coming. what do you think? >> generally u.s. attorneys don't offer reports. inspect generals do such. there is pending news, something about to pop, those are generally charges. those are not going to be, hey, i have got this report, here is my 27 pages or 300 pages about what is going on. those are usually about indictments. so foreshadowing has been off the charts. you have two people who are in

the know, i don't think they would continue to foreshadow with such ferocity and such specificity without something really about to happen in the next week or two. elizabeth: what you do think it is? could it be perjury charges because the fbi officials were found to have misled the fisa court normally used for terror investigation and wiretapping terrorists. instead it was used on opposition time. they were found to misled the fisa court, knew as earlier as 2016 carter page was a source on russia and china that would explain his multiple contacts. he hid that information from the fisa court. they hid the information that was debunking the steele dossier that also helped to used to get fisa wiretaps. perjury charges possible here? >> possible perjury charges. you could have the court take some actions because they were misled. i don't know of any other court

in the land where you can lie to the court, well, you know, don't do that again. you also have this, this other u.s. attorney who is looking into the unmasking. so perhaps it is related to the unmasking with susan powell and some of these other people who were in positions of power that engaged in these mass and even vice president biden and others asking for unmasking. so it could be a whole variety of different things. certainly the attorney general has been clear that there was spying going on. that the court was misled. there was misinformation. these were dossiers, documents that were quote, unquote, verified. and it is a list of people we've been talking about, liz, for a while. everybody from director comey, mccabe, right on down the line. strzok, page, you have a whole host of people. these are the upper echelons of the fbi and they have a plot to

be worried about. elizabeth: you wonder too, about how much is going to be made of the fbi officials using the steele dossier that christopher steele testified in a british court he was initially paid by democrats to come up with the anti-trump opposition research for hillary clinton to use in case she lost the election. still need to know which fbi agent was handed that document and how that dossier got inside of the fbi and was used to help get fisa wiretaps. we don't know, still haven't gotten to the bottom bottom that. what do you think? >> not only how the document got in there, peter strzok not only developing this information but also signing off on this information. he is wearing two hats at one time. newly-released documents. "judicial watch" involved in that. i got to tell you it so highly unusual to hold it this close to the vest. remember to cows

counterintelligence capabilities, this idiot, peter strzok is in charge of counterintelligence there and you don't think the russians, chinese, everybody else can't figure out he is texting his lover there in lisa page? i mean there is so many dirt on these people and you have 1000 pages there from the inspector general, highlighting all of the malfeasance, all the reasons that they did things wrong, charges i think are pending. you wouldn't have this foreshadowing going on. elizabeth: you know what is still a curious thing, we still don't know what senator charles schumer was referring to. isn't this couldn't densal what charles schumer said on tv about the intelligence community? they have the power to get you every which way from sunday. he said this very early on. let's watch this. >> let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday getting back at you. so even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed

businessman he is being really dumb to do this. >> yeah i think he was speaking the truth. elizabeth: apparent glee there. go ahead. >> yeah, he was speaking the truth. he was foreshadowing things. i do think at the end of the day we'll see intelligence operatives involved in this as well, not just the department of justice. elizabeth: okay. jason chaffetz, thanks for joining us. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: next up, news breaking in the fight over the democrats radical shutdown orders. a federal judge in pennsylvania has struck down the democrat governor of pennsylvania's covid-19 restrictions as unconstitutional. it forced people to stay home and much more. after trump was criticized for holding a rally in pennsylvania. trump 2020 senior advisor steve cortez on that breaking story next. president trump: forget about numbers though, the people that are inside of those lockdowns they're suffering between depression, losing their jobs,

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♪. elizabeth: okay. we've got breaking news coming in. a major victory in the fight against democrats radical shutdown orders. a federal judge has now struck down the democrat governor of pennsylvania's covid-19 restrictions as quote, unconstitutional. they force people to stay home and much more. this after president trump was criticized for holding a rally in pennsylvania as violating covid restrictions. let's welcome to the show trump 2020 senior advisor, look who is here, steve cortez. great to have you on, steve. your reaction to this breaking news? >> liz, thank you for having me. this is fantastic news for america and i would say really quite frankly for common sense. a lot of governors around the

country, golf wolf of pennsylvania is certainly one of them, they have been acting like petty tyrants. they have been acting like monarchs. they have imposing completely unjust, unfair, in this case unlawful restrictions on the american people. they came they're doing it for our health. we all know better. they're doing it because of politics. they want to punish people. they're not afraid to use small business and even children as pawns. so they close schools. they forbid sports. they suspend our society in many ways, particularly when it comes to free enterprise and they're doing so because they believe that it will ultimately lead to donald trump losing the election. this judge, thankfully is standing up for our rights. i would also say this, liz, it is important americans rightly recoil at the whole idea there would be two sets of rules and we've seen that throughout these lockdown restrictions in states like pennsylvania. what i mean by that is, government leaders like governor wolf and governor pritzker in illinois and governor cuomo in

new york, they have absolutely encouraging riots and protests as long as they had an anti-trump agenda, but at the same time, telling americans that they couldn't go to church. they have been telling big box retailers they are essential, they must stay open but closing down the corner barbershop. this kind of mentality that it is okay to impose two sets of rules is just not just, it is not fair. it also clearly isn't good for our economy. elizabeth: to the 2020 campaign talk of an enthusiasm gap in the media, watch trump supporters on saturday running to get a spot at the airport in minden, nevada. reports thousands arrived to hear the president speak. out on lake meade outside of las vegas, close to 800 boats and jet skis. there was water parade rally for trump. the turn out was double what was expected. nevada henderson threatening to revoke the license of a manufacturing company, extreme

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were enjoying early part of this year. we can rightly celebrate that the recent economic data has been incredibly encouraging this is a burgeoning rebound right now in this country. it is shown by jobs, car sales. home sales. just a plethora of data. elizabeth: i want to -- we're running out of time. in miami, in miami, which is thought to be a democrat haven, latinos for trump, they held the mother of all caravans car rally with vehicles coming together, blaring horns, waving flags. "washington post" is reporting top democrats warning the biden campaign is failing in getting hispanic vote. they could lose, that biden could lose because of this. he is not doing outreach. he is not doing speeches, targeting the hispanic community. not talking to you know, hispanic television. you know, they're talking about democrats fear they could lose arizona, nevada, georgia,

north carolina, florida, pennsylvania. talk to us about how the hispanic vote is going for trump? he holds socialist economist dictators accountable whereas obama-biden team was reaching out to trying to normalize relations with cuba, that is responsible for human rights atrocities. >> you know, liz, the most recent "fox news poll" shows our support, the trump campaign support at 41% among hispanics. i suspect we can do even better than that even that number, something in the 40s, makes the electoral map probably prohibitive against joe biden. there is really two reasons for this. three, we're working for it. joe biden is not. in terms of policy there is really two reasons. the first one that the democratic party has lurched so far to the left on so many issues, you cited one of them, coddling socialist dictators in latin america, venezuela, cuba, it lurched so far left, it left a lot of latinos behind, a lot

of hispanics formerly voted democratic are political orphans by the radical democrat party. the second issue i talked about, hispanics were thriving under the first trump boom. hispanic led to the three of income gains during first three years of trump presidency. now the second trump expansion commences with gusto, hispanics are the most entrepreneurial demographic in america are rallying very rightly to the trump agenda with a belief in growth for the next trump term. so i think on those scores hispanics are rightly rallying to president trump. elizabeth: okay. we got to go. steve cortes, thank you very much. good to see you. come back soon. >> you bet. elizabeth: coming up, we'll take on this debate. we've been researching it. it is breaking out nationwide. theologian jonathan more is coming on the show. we're break down why the silence from faith leaders? where are the faith leaders talking about the violent riots

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♪ elizabeth: back to the top story of the day. a shooting of two sheriffs deputies in compton, california. this growing debate in the u.s. where are the faithed leaders, why the deafening silence from faith leaders as citizens are getting shot, cops are getting shot at, riots torching communities and businesses burning them to the ground? a news check shows widespread

silence from faith leaders not condemning riots. 570 riots in 220 cities and towns. not doing enough to stop the violence. not talking about the violence as two more cops are now shot. is there silence giving agency to what is happening? because martin luther king said, when you have silence you have agency not to give rioting and perpetrators. it is a complicated concept and theology. let's get to fox news contributor, theologian jonathan morris. he joins me now. why the silence. great to have you on. are faith leaders failing the victims and the congregations and the perpetrators because the aim is also to stop the perpetrators to stop them from committing evil? what is your response? >> i'm so glad you took on this topic. there is silence. it is not just failing the victims but it is failing

america. i do hold faith leaders in america today and, the list is actually shocking. half of them are dead, you know. then you have about 25% that i have never heard of. you have one or two you would say, yeah, i could see him as a national faith leader. then you have a couple crazies. david koresh. you've got farrakhan. there is not real leadership. now let me tell you why, liz. because they are afraid. and it is understandable, right, as soon as you say anything right now about the social atmosphere we're living in, people say you are a partisan, you are a trump hater or you are a biden hater and it is hard. you have to be tough. elizabeth: well you have to stand up for the principle because, again, we've had dr. alveda king, niece to martin luther king, talking about non-violence is the way. because if you don't speak out

for non-violence and you're staying silent on the silence, it gives agency to the perpetrators to keep doing it. and it is also about focusing on the perpetrators to stop them and help them too. >> yeah. elizabeth: because now the protests believe if you stop business, that protest can be replaced with insurance. that is an evil way of thinking that this is justifiable way of protesting and a form of reparations. gandhi said eye for an eye the whole world goes blind that way. video after fight between hbo bill maher, who fired back at former cnn jessica yellen down playing the rioting in portland. i like your reaction. >> where is this mass destruction of happening right now? >> you watch the news? >> if you look at portland, it is two square block. >> there is a view, and it is in the media, please, i know you've seen it, don't look at me like i'm making this up, that somehow this is a justifyiable approach.

>> isn't part of protest -- elizabeth: just leaves people speechless, when you see media downplaying it, your words, sir sir. >> they're using moral arguments in order to justify what they're doing. i heard another incredible moral argument this is all frustrations. i can break in, you mentioned insurance, i can break into a store to take stuff because it is actually mine because i have been vilified. i am the victim. i have victimized. therefore i can take what belongs to somebody else. this is where religious leaders need to speak out and be unafraid. let me tell you, i understand there will be criticized but you have to keep doing it over and over again and give real arguments that people peace to people in making good moral judgments. elizabeth: listen, on evening

edit, we have spoken out against racism and brutality. now we'll start taking on the theologian and faith leaders, why are you silent? are you giving agency to the rioting and attacks on innocent people going on in the country. jonathan, come back soon. >> absolutely. elizabeth: next up, the growing talk that trump's border security advances will come undone if he loses. we have more what democrats plan to do. texas congressman brian babin is ready to take this on. he join us next

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♪. elizabeth: okay. joe biden says he will dismantle the president's sweeping border security changes within his first 100 days. let's welcome texas congressman brian babin. great to have you back on, sir. this country has to deal with covid-19, homeless vets, poverty, crime, and more and now you know, the trump administration has been getting victories in border security and tightening down on human trafficking and drug trafficking and criminal illegal crime. now joe biden is saying he will undo all of that? >> that is outrageous, liz. you know, the, the things that the president trump has been able to do, just through executive action, through his

agencies, with no help whatsoever from congress, have been astounding. he built, built 300 plus miles of wall. he has done our, he has cut back a tremendously on amount on a lot of the asylum-seekers. he has worked with mexico. i think mexico is certainly to be commended. just think what we could have been doing had the democrats worked with the president. we could have a very, very, 100% secure border. but the fact that vice president biden says he is going to roll back all of this should give many americans a very strong chill up their spines because like you just said, with covid and riots and all of the things that we're experiencing today, to have thousands and thousands of illegals flooding across our borders again would just add that, exaggerate what is already happening there.

it is inexcusable. elizabeth: yeah. republicans and the president repeatedly say they're for humane, humanitarian legal immigration, people that go to the ports of entry to get asylum and more. the consider critics have not gone to the border to see what the border patrol put up with. worry we're talking about enforcement mechanisms that president put in place remain in mexico. border officials telling us, congressman, they fear the migrant caravans by the thousands will start coming back. remember people were dying enroute here two years ago, trying to cross the rio grande river with children, putting children's lives at risk. drugs and human traffickers pouring in. that has stopped. people's lives are being saved with what the president is doing. your reaction? >> my reaction, this preposterous exaggerated claim that the democrats are maintaining they have the high moral ground here, nothing could

be further from the truth. because of their policies, open borders, they absolutely encourage, they encourage child trafficking, you know, all of the drug trade. all of the terrible things, child abuse, female abuse, sex abuse, coming across the border, many of them never even made it up here to begin with. these are all things being encouraged by these democrat policies. and we absolutely must not allow all of these, these great changes that the president made to be reversed because, all it is going to do is open our borders up. it is costing the american taxpayer $1.8 billion a year for our asylum-seekers and our refugee programs. we just simply cannot afford that, especially at this point in time. and, you know, i think the american people need to realize we don't want a sanctuary nation because they're pushing sanctuary cities over there on the democrat side with their

policies, we would have a sanctuary united states of america. that is what it would wind up being. they're pushing illegal aliens to cast votes in u.s. elections now too. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, we've been tracking criminal illegal alien crime too that hits minority and immigrant communities. listen, people are for humanitarian ways. we want humanitarian asylum-seekers in proper facilities in mexico. that is an issue for mexico. we're running out of time. congressman, i wish we had more time. we'll have you back on to discuss this very important topic. thanks for joining us, congressman. >> thank you, liz. god bless. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. thank you so much for watching. we hope you join us tomorrow night and we hope you have a good evening. ♪ "lou dobbs tonight" that

starts right now. have a good night. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. firefighters at this hour are trying to contain nearly 100 wildfires raging across the west coast. millions of acres have already been scorched, at least 35 people have been killed in those fires, but dozens of people are missing. president trump is on his way to phoenix, arizona, for a campaign round table with latino voters. the president leaving california just a few moments ago. there he met with emergency officials for a briefing on the wildfires. during that meeting the president thanked all of those who are risking their