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personally bought insurance for themselves fearing they would be sued because of the, quote, madhouse going on behind the scenes of the fbi, the misconduct there. the flynn probe was such a problem, it was a, quote, nightmare at the fbu, that the agent running it, quote, was obsessed with conspiracy theories. that person thought to be andrew mccabe. and so flimsy was the case against flynn, that the fbi planned to shut it down earlier than realized, in november of 2016, the day trump won. but top fbi officials kept it alive to satisfy the obama administration. plus, ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent who worked on both the flynn case and the mueller probe said he believes the flynn probe was part of a, quote, push to get trump, that trump-russia collusion was not there, it was a dead end, that the flynn probe was so, quote, problematic and based on such dumb theory -- that's a quote -- that he even warned there would be an investigation into what the fbi

would do, and he threatened to quit. also with us tonight former trump campaign adviser carter page. remember, he was targeted by fbi agents who are now accused of deceiving that fisa court to get wiretaps to spy on him. carter page on this new bombshell, that the main source for the debunked anti-trump steele dossier, remember are, it was paid for by the democrats and the campaign, they helped paw for it and it was used by the fbi to get those wiretaps? that this guy was likely a russian spy who the fbi had already investigated for two years and deemed a possible threat to national security. also with us tonight, "the hill" media reporter joe concha on a new revelation. just how many days has joe bide been spending off of the campaign trail? not doing any campaign events? with just days to go before the first debate, and now this: nancy pelosi again doubled down today saying cancel the debates. and detroit's police chief on a frightening story, a family of

trump supporters who had to flee their homes with their two infant children after rioters set on fire and burned to the ground their home garage and their vehicles. why? because they had a trump 2020 sign at their house. well, thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth mcdonald. we've got a jam of packed show, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. joining me on the phone now is sidney powell, attorney for michael flynn. we're going to start rolling on the f with wi text the -- fbi text messages that were revealed. sidney, what exactly was president obama and the obama administration doing to put such pressure on fbi agents and analysts that they said they were glad to close the flynn case on the day trump was elected, then there was pressure to keep it open, they felt that they had to personally buy insurance because they thought they were going to be sued because of the misconduct going on at the fbi? what was president obama and the

obama administration doing here? >> well, obviously, they were exerting significant pressure on comey and mccabe to keep the investigation going, apparently particularly through comey's meeting with biden and obama and susan rice and sally yates on january 5th and apparently for a few days before either by phone or some kind of other meeting that i think is reflected in strzok's notes that were given to us a few weeks ago indicating that obama said he wanted the right people put on it and the investigation to continue. biden mentioned the logan act. i think there was a meeting before the 5th or at least a conversation before the 5th that included that information. elizabeth: you know, are you going to take this to the supreme court? >> if we have to. i'm hoping judge sullivan gets it right and salvages what's left of his reputation.

because he's, he was the hero of my book "license to lie "only to be a major disappointment when a different context involving a republican that was and a republican attorney general. stevens, of course, was asked to be dismissed by eric holder, but that wasn't what happened in this case. elizabeth: the fbi text messages talk about how the flynn probe was based on, quote, conspiracy theories, was a nightmare, that basically, you know, if this ths becomes public, there's going to be tough questions through freedom of information act requests. william barnett, he's the fbi guy who work on the trump-russia probe and the -- sit right there, sidney, we're going to cut to president trump. he's speaking right now. let's listen to president trump. >> [inaudible]

>> well, she's outstanding, but i haven't said that. i'll be announcing it tomorrow at 5:00. we are going to make a round table now, and then i'm going virginia, as you know. we're doing a rally tonight. and then we'll call it a day. i would say that's a pretty good day. >> [inaudible] in florida? >> say who? >> [inaudible] >> no, i did not. by the way, a very highly thought of person, but i did not. >> [inaudible] amy coney barrett. >> is that what they're telling you? >> [inaudible] >> you'll find out tomorrow. she's very -- look, they're all great. it could be any one of them. could be, actually, anyone orphan -- anyone on the list. they're outstanding. but i'll be announcing tomorrow at the white house. so we're going for a round table now. we had an exciting day with hispanics and the african-american community. we're going to have a big round table now at the hotel, and then

we're going, i don't know who's going we me, is anybody going with me on this? the rally. steve, you want to see another rally, i know that. >> [inaudible] >> go ahead? >> [inaudible] >> okay, good. >> [inaudible] >> well, i haven't said it was her, but she is outstanding. but they're all outstanding. they're all very outstanding people. top of the line academically and every way possible. >> [inaudible] >> i did not. no, i did not. i didn't. have a good time, everybody. >> [inaudible] >> say it? >> do you promise to appoint pro-life justices -- [inaudible] is the goal to overturn roe v. wade? >> no, no. you'll be seeing all of that tomorrow. we have not made our intentions felt, but you'll be seeing tomorrow, okay in good. thank you. >> [inaudible] >> and i'll see some of you, some are traveling with me

tonight. and i think i speak tonight at 9:00 in virginia, okay? thank you. [inaudible conversations] elizabeth: that's president -- okay, that's president trump on the way to virginia talking about the supreme court nomination announcement will come together. let's get back to sidney powell and our discussion of what happened with these fbi text messages revealing serious abuses of power going on behind the scenes at the fbi. sidney, you know, there's also talk of, you know, just keeping it open by going after general michael flynn's financial records through the use of national security letters, that sort of circumvents subpoenas. in other words, do that, keep it hidden from michael flynn. these are major abuses of power. how do you hold the guys who are doing this accountable? >> well, the ones who were trying to make up a crime against him certainly should be prosecuted for obstruction the of justice. the abuse of power that went into the extended investigation and the harassment of him and

his son proposed violations of section 242, i think, abuse of power involving his civil rights, and those are at least misdemeanor offenses that should be prosecuted in this circumstance. lawyers should, at minimumming lose their law licenses, and those who knew exactly what they were doing and working so hard to do it here should be prosecuted for their conspiracies and falsification of documents and everything else. elizabeth: you know, we just were showing text messages indicating that the fbi analysts talking about what was going on in the flynn case behind the scenes, indicated that they felt white house senior official were the ones leaking to the media. so that's parking lot of the story too, right -- part of the story too the, right, about media leaks coming out of -- james comey has already admitted that and white house senior officials, your reaction to that, in order to keep the flynn and the trump-russia probe going when there was no -- >> sure. yes, we know now that the fbi

leaked information at different times to put articles in the media that they could then justify whatever they wanted to do, and special counsel did the same thing. i think more evidence at some point will come out about that too. of course, right after flynn entered his first guilty plea, the evidence exploded in the press that all the text messages between strzok and page indicated their affair and their hatred of president trump. but that was, they managed to suppress that until right after the guilty plea. elizabeth: it just feels like when you put it all together, this was a top-down effort just to get, you know, president trump and michael for instance. when you look at it in toto, you know, everything. we've been covering it since 2017, fbi agents talking about, you know, behind the scenes people here are scrambling for information to support their theories, it's a madhouse, you know, things like andrew mccabe was supposed to be, thought to be the, quote, worst

offender of rabbit hole thinking and conspiracy theories about this. so, you know, when you put it all together, it just feels like a real push to, you know, to bring down and block president trump to be elected on the part of the obama administration. that's what -- i think that's what people want to know, how much was president obama's fingerprints on this? >> his fingerprints are all over it. there's the reference in the new text messages about how his briefing went on january 5th. so it was a full-fledged briefing. and, of course, we have susan rice's memo on it and james comey's memo on it. there's a lot of information about that, and now we know that there are other people who need to be asked about it as well. and mr. barnett, the fbi agent whose 302 is included in the government's filing last night, says it was a top-down operation. he's absolutely clear about that. elizabeth: yeah. and he threatened to quit over it. you know?

so we'll be staying on the story. sidney, we always love having you on. we really appreciate your insights and perspectives, and we'll be staying on the general michael flynn case as well. sidney powell, thanks again. >> thank you so much, liz. elizabeth: sure. next up, former independent counsel ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent, william barnett, who worked on both the flynn cause and the mueller probe, says he believes the flynn probe was part of a push to, quote, get trump, that trump's russia collusion was not there, or they didn't have the case, didn't have the predicate for a criminal probe and that the flynn probe was, quote, so problematic and base on such, quote, dumb theory, he even warned there would be an investigation into it, and he threatened to quit. that story next. >> but it turned out to be the opposite story. it was them who were dealing with russia. ♪

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that. how should they be held accountable? can that be done? >> yes, of course. first of all, there should, in fact, be ongoing investigations by the hill. i realize time growing short, but also criminal investigations. you know, as sidney powell just mentioned, if some of these things, in fact, happened, then there are really possible criminal charges. i want to focus just very briefly on mr. barnett, a respected fbi agent's indictment, as it were, of the special counsel's office and their fanciful theory of collusion, all made up. the theory of the day. andrew weissmann having the here theory of the day being, hey, we've got the evidence of a quid pro quo. it all happened on a yacht near greece. and then that so-called evidence doesn't develop at all. and that theory is forgotten within a day or two.

and that attitude within the special counsel's office, bob mueller's office was we're not out to get the facts, we're out to get trump. this is a terrible indictment of the special counsel. elizabeth: yeah, it's totally poison for the american system. again and again we've been saying, you know, the viewer out there has to understand that we don't -- this is, using the intelligence community to go after an opposition candidate. william barnett told the u.s. district attorney he didn't want to pursue trump-russia collusion because it was, quote, not there, there was no criminal basis for it, that it was supposition based on supposition that it was, quote, a dead end, that this was basically run by lawyers from the top down, andrew mccabe, james comey on down. it was a fishing expedition, you know, basically searching for facts to fit a crime when they didn't have a criminal basis to start the probe to begin with. that's what william barnett is saying. what's your reaction? >> my reaction is shame on

andrew mccabe and shame on peter strzok. and likely, although comey's name is not all over this particular 302, but the leadership at the fbi or is very much to blame under james comey for all the bad things that you rightly said happened, and that's at the fbi's feet. again, the last part of the 302 goes on to his service, mr. barnett's service, in the special counsel's office, and that is really disturbing. they weren't professional. read the 302, and you will come away, a fair-minded person will come away that mr. barnett, a career fbi agent, integrity unquestioned, saying lack of integrity on the part of bob mueller's team. they had a theory. they, again, were not out to get at the truth. shame on them. shame on them. elizabeth: yeah. >> what they have put this country through is, if it's not a crime, it certainly is a travesty of justice. elizabeth: yeah.

it's a theory in search of a crime. and william barnett is indicating that, you know, the mueller team and the fbi officials are basically acting as if they were part of something bug, they wanted to be part of something big, there's the evidence out there, we just have to find it. so instead of just letting the facts and the evidence take you to the conclusion, they had this umbrella theory that didn't pan out. your final word on this. >> yeah, exactly, didn't pan out. instead of doing it in a professional way, doing precisely what you said, let's find out the facts and assess the facts, instead they superimposed a theory. the president of the united states is essentially engaged in traitorous acts, and that was so unfair and unfounded, and he was blowing the whistle all throughout. he wanted to be taken off the investigation, it was so unprofessional, and he thought, in fact, there might even be danger of charges against those who were involved in the investigation. so it's a very damning insight

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rioters in antifa, do you believe that they're doing that at the fbi? >> oh, absolutely, elizabeth. i do. let's face it, this is not that complicated. when you look across our nation, and we've been into this now in excess of a hundred days, it's well coordinated, it's planned. is and so when you see it happen in every city, while i'm so happy and excited to report that we didn't have the looting and burning. but make no mistake, there were individuals on the ground, outsiders who were trained to incite violence in our city. they just couldn't get the traction here in detroit. but we saw it in other cities. so it begs the question, who's doing it, who's funding it. and more importantly, we know it's coordinated. and so i believe that the fbi, i have tremendous respect for director wray and the work that the fbu is doing, and i know --

fbi is doing, and i know they're working this case vigorously. breathe. elizabeth: who do you think is funding antifa? who's funding it, who do you think? >> i don't know. i don't even want to speculate. there could be any number of places, there could be smaller groups that are funding people who are sympathetic to the agenda. but i won't even go on and say who i think specifically or what groups are funding it. but i can tell you of course it's being funded. the fact that they have lawyers, they're getting out of jail when we've made arrests. it's planned. i just tonight know. i don't have that -- i just don't know. i don't have that level of intelligence. but certainly i've watched with diligence what's going on in all the cities across our country. if it happens in los angeles, certainly some of it's going to touch us, philadelphia. i've seen it, i've just seen it

over the hundred-plus days. elizabeth: you know, sir, you have done, you and your team have done such a good job of protecting detroit and the environs there, you know, because we know that detroit has been through it with riots in the past, and it can really hurt communities for generations. you know, so fbi director e testified that cities that cooperated and got help from the government did keep protests peaceful. you guys didn't need to go there, but he's pointing out cities like portland, oregon, the cities that rejected help, they got hit with violent riots. these professional anarchists, opportunists used in the protests as an opportunity for mayhem, and they've done it, and we've seen this break out around the world, this is what's been happening. your reaction to that. >> well, it's clear to me what's happening. first of all, you've got political structures in some of these cities who are appeasing these anarchists, and they're just not leading. i'm just going to say it and i'll probably be criticized for

it, but it's true. here in detroit, though, it's very different. a couple of things, one, we have strong relationships in our community. they're not going to tolerate this anarchy. they don't want it. these folks do not speak for the city of detroit. and so the mayor of detroit and myself are in lockstep. we're just not going to tolerate violence. and that's what needs to happen -- elizabeth: yeah. and -- >> and i think that's the real key. elizabeth: no tolerance, yeah. and, you know, we now have shocking images from a story we reported yesterday, a family of trump supporters in a town called brooklyn center, minnesota, they were attacked wednesday night. why? because they had a trump 2020 sign. rioters burned to the ground their garage and vehicles, and attackers spray painted biden 2020, blm and the capital letter a. this family had to escape with their two infant children, aged 2 years old and 5 months old,

and they had to rescue puppies that were in that garage. knocked out the family's surveillance camera just before fires were set, but police apparently have footage from other surveillance cameras. this is what's happening, going into neighborhoods now and burning down property? of people's homes? your thoughts about can this be stopped? how do you stop this? >> well, first of all, we must stand united. you must have people who sit in seats of leadership stand united. as i've often times said on maybe your show and many others, what happened in portland -- or, no, seattle, this whole business of summer of love, let's just let them basically break the law. you have to stand together united, all of us. i don't care if you're a council person, chief -- elizabeth: yeah. >> we stand as one. we're america -- elizabeth: they threaten -- i

hear you. but the thing is is, they could have killed this family. it is outrageous and a disgrace, what happened to this family with two infant children, they had to leave their homes because arsonists set it on fire. your final word, and then we've got to go, chief craig. >> let me just say this, we're americans first. secondly, this is not about left, it's not about right, it's not about a what race you are, it's about this mob, news domestic terrorists who have an agenda, and they, if you talk against their agenda, then there's a problem. bottom lewin, we need to call it what it really is -- bottom line. elizabeth: all right. chief craig, it's great to have you on, sir. come back soon and have a good weekend. thanks for your service to our country. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: up next, "the next revolution" host steve hilton joins us now. progressive democrats now want new legislation to put term limits on supreme court justices and saying they want a new bill

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term. what's your thought about that? >> you can't do this kind of thing through legislation. this is a massive change to our constitution. if you want to make those changes -- and, by the way, i can see the argument behind it for wanting to depoliticize the supreme court -- but let's remember who politicized it in the first place. it was the democrats originating the first time with the way they treat treated robert bork all those years ago when joe biden was there. they're the ones that caused the politicization. now they're coming along saying let's put in these new rules in order to depoliticize it. fine. then argue for it the proper way, a constitutional amendment with all the thresholds you need to meet in order to secure that. you can't just write a piece of legislation on a friday afternoon to change the constitution like that. it's completely ridiculous. elizabeth: you probably need a constitutional amendment for what they're talking about when it comes to judges on the supreme court. you know, so you bring up, you

know, it was joe biden who basically got the ball rolling in 1987 with robert bork hearings. coining the term forking because it was so nasty, so ideological, "the washington post" ended up saying, hey, joe biden, what are you doing? you're acting like a prosecutor, not a juror here. so it seems like can you stop things from progressing from that to where it is now, steve? how do you stop it? because now the democrats are talking about walking out of the hearings, you know, the confirmation hearings or, you know, boycotting them. so how do you stop this? >> well, i think the only correct position is to follow the rules as they are laud out and followed -- laid out and followed in the constitution and elsewhere which is what the president is doing, which is what mitch mcconnell is doing. and that's the only sensible way. you can't just make it up as you go along as the democrats are trying to do. they can protest all they like,

they can use the maneuvers we've been hearing about,, but it's not going to change the fundamental position which is that the president has the right to nominate someone, there's no time limit on that within the time he's in office, and the senate has the right to discuss and have hearings and then confirm someone. and that's going to happen irrespective of what the democrats do to make a protest. i think in the long term what you're going to see if you get more conservative judges on the court, you'll get to a depoliticization because what they believe in is actually making sure that more of these contentious political decisions are decided by the politicians through elections and legislatures rather than by the courts. and that's the key to it. so in a funny way, if you confirm more conservative judges, that itself will take the politics out of the judiciary. elizabeth: well, yeah, and -- right. finally, that's the issue with borking. joe biden was said to be trying to turn the supreme court into a

left-wing super legislature for the democrat party, and that was the issue. it's thought to be amy barrett, she's already been vetted, to replace justice kennedy who also, you know, brett kavanaugh took that seat, so we'll see tomorrow who the pick is going to be at 5 p.m. eastern. okay, steve, always great to have you on. catch steve's show, "the next revolution," sundays at 9 p.m. eastern time on the fox news channel, and we thank you again, steve hilton. he'll be back on the show. next up, "the hill" media reporter joe concha on new revelations about just how many days joe biden has spent off of the campaign trail not doing any campaign events with just days to go before the first debate. and look at this, nancy pelosi doubling down again today saying, you know what? cancel the debates, don't do them. joe concha next. >> somebody said, oh, he won't do well at the debate. i said i think you're wrong, he'll do fine. they'll give him a big shot something, and he'll go out

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the mouth no matter what your plan is. and joe biden did a town hall last week where he got 16 questions, and cnn made sure that he got and from $13 from democrats -- 13 from democrats and just 3 from republicans. that will not prepare him for what he's going to get from chris wallace which will be questions he's probably never heard before. he gets defensive, he gets angry, and he gets incoherent sometimes in terms of getting his thoughts. i know the trump campaign is trying to raise expectations in terms of biden's performance, i think we're going to see for the first time joe biden being challenged and not handling it very well. as you said, he's only been on the campaign trail 15 out of 25 days in september. that means he's taken 10 days off right before a presidential election, six weeks beforehand. you've got to want the job. and it appears that's not the case. i mean, 7 out of the last 14 days alone he hasn't campaigned or taken questions for that

matter. what does that say in term of the campaign's confidence in their candidate when they're hiding him on an almost daily basis? elizabeth: you know, what's really interesting, the democrat party chair for the state of texas said the biden campaign is saying they're talking about covid-19, that's why he's not taking fripps. the party chair -- taking trips. the party chair said, well, he has his own plane. he can get on his own plane. and then you see president trump making 24 trips to 17 different states. listen, we're not advocating for either candidate, we're just laying out the facts. i don't think we've ever seen anything like this in a presidential campaign where the presumptive, the democrat candidate isn't out there taking questions from reporters. i mean, again and again, are we going to be in for fireworks on tuesday night? i mean, could this be a knockdown, drag-out brawl where joe biden starts yelling instead of answering the questions we know that president trump has taken reporters to task, but

this is something different. what are we in for for tuesday night? what do you think is going to happen? >> we're going to see super bowl-like numbers in terms of viewers. hillary clinton and donald trump four years ago, their first debate was viewed by 85 million on tv, and so we expect around 100 million watching this, and for many it'll be the first time many viewers will be seeing joe biden because he's done so few press conferences and getting out there. joe biden has made 12 visits outside of delaware since august 11th. 12, that's it. that is an incredible number. and if as you said, trump 24 trips, 17 states, he is outworking his opponent, and right now joe biden is being defined by the trump campaign and not defining himself, elizabeth. elizabeth: breaking news, fox news reporting that the president's choice will be amy coney barrett. so we'll hear that announcement likely 5 p.m. eastern saturday. we'll be looking at that to come

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show former trump campaign adviser carter page. he's the author of the book "abuse of power," chronicling how he was a target of the fbi.

great to have you back on again. dud you have any idea whatsoever that a what government documents show now, that the main source for the now-debunked anti-trump steele dossier was, quote, a likely russian spy? did you have any idea about that? >> no. and i have been fighting for the truth for years already, liz, and it's really unfortunate that we're finally finding out about this just 40 days before the election. so this is just an extraordinary level of corruption that has just been uncovered yesterday, and i, like i said, i've been trying since the very beginning to get the truth. no luck. elizabeth: so you had no idea, you had no idea he was a russian agent who the fbi had investigated for two years because there was a potential threat to national security because of his ties to russian intelligence. you didn't know any of that, and the fbi was told about this, you know, in december of 2016 before they got wiretaps on you.

finish you didn't know anything about that. >> no. a although they say it was possible he was a threat to national security. we now know that he and his colleagues in the democrat party funded by the dnc, they did become a threat to national security in the leadup to the last presidential election and throughout the initial years of the trump administration. i was getting almost constant death threats related to all these false allegations that this subsource was distributing or was helping christopher steele and providing christopher steele, the dnc consultant, just to talk down president trump. take down president trump. and my name was a attached to this completely made-up story, so it's truly extraordinary. elizabeth: so this source worked at the brookings institution. he also was asking a lot of questions about u.s. military vessels.

he was also -- this is, it gets worse with. in may 2009 he tried to recruit two individuals who were close to a foreign policy adviser to president barack obama saying that if you, if you get a job in the government, you have access to classified information, you may be able to make a little extra money on the side. so when you see information like this given that -- and, by the i way, turning to, switching now over to hunter biden and that story, have you ever been wired any money whatsoever from overseas individuals? >> no, never anything like that, that's for sure. and, you know, it's exactly, it's funny about that quote that you just cited. a little bit of extra money on the side. i mean, that $3 million plus from a senior oligarch in moscow is really bringing that whole concept to an entirely new level. and that's another example of how we've been waiting, and i

know several senior members of congress have been pushing for the truth for years just like i've been pushing -- or calling for the truth since the last presidential election, and we're finally just getting some initial clues about the extent of the complete corruption and just how far these people will go to line their own pockets. elizabeth: so how do you reconcile in your head that the democrats, including the hillary clinton campaign, helped fund this anti-trump opposition research, the steele dossier, that was using as its main source a russian intelligence, a russian spy that the fbi had already investigated and that now critics warn, saying basically this is russia disinformation coming into the steele dossier, you know, basically that fbi was pursuing you based on russian disinformation that. 's what we heard, republican senators have been telling us.

how do you reconcile this? >> well, i think it is -- we are going through a reconciliation process. but unfortunately, that entire sham was pushed by the democrats' colleagues in the mainstream media. they're the ones that were broadcasting this russian discuss information for years and years on end. so unfortunately, there does need to be a reckoning, and we are not quite there yet. and, unfortunately, we're now less than 40 days from the next election, so i think it's really important that americans know the full truth. elizabeth: you know, senator graham called this most stunning and damning revelation his committee has uncovered in the review of the trump-russia probe. senator graham said, quote with: to me, failure of the fbi to inform the fisa court that the primary subsource for christopher steele was suspected of being a russian agent. this is a breach, he says, of every duty owed by law enforcement to the judicial system. had you ever had any indication

that the fbi was not telling the fisa court about this agent, this fbi -- this thought to be an fbi, excuse me, a russian spy, that they knew about for years and years and years? you had no word about that. >> absolutely none. and, unfortunately, when this whole doj inspector general report calm -- came out, it was recontacted. again, this information which was originally released in december of 2019, we're just learning about it today. and in terms of chairman graham, he is a national hero having fought so hard for over two years to get to the bottom of this, and the fact that we're only now just getting in, i think it's a quantum leap forward, but there clearly is a lot more to come, and there should be. and i'm really looking forward to next wednesday when chairman graham has former fbi director james comey on his, come to the

committee. elizabeth: right. >> there's, obviously, going to be a lot of questions that need to be answered. elizabeth: all right. carter page, thanks for coming on. we'll have you back on. carter page there. it's good to see you again. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. ♪ >> from the fox studios in new york city, this is maria bartiromo's "wall street." maria: and happy weekend to all. welcome to the program that analyzes the week that was and helps position you for the week ahead. i'm maria bart row mow. great to have everybody this weekend -- bartiromo. my interview with the secretary of hhs, human health and services secretary alex azar on the race for a covid-19 vaccine, and later, a no-holds-barred interview with mark levin, the state of the election today. but first, let's take a look back at some of the week's big moments on "mornin