and be sure to buy "the trump century," how the president changed the course of history. get your copies at loudobbsshop.com. loudobbsshop.com. see you in about an hour. thanks for being with us. ♪. elizabeth: to the story dominating today's headlines. the debate so badly derailed last night the commission on presidential debates is reportedly considering cutting off microphones of candidates to stop any future props, to stop future debates from turning into an unproductive chaotic mess. last night clock an interruption every minute. "the hill" media reporter joe concha on that, as republicans and democrats alike roundly criticized the debate not being a debate at all but a brawl. what is all means for 2020. that story coming up. trump campaign advisor carter page on former director

james comey who saw the trump-russia probe. he testified today he only learned about fbi abuses in the probe reading about them after the fact in government watchdog reports years after he left the bureau. but then comey claiming it was quote, run by the book. all this leading republicans to ask how can comey know so little about an investigation he launch and ran, when it was comey who pushed for the mueller probe in the first place? joining us republican congressman doug collins from house judiciary how the democrats are mounting an even bigger pushback to stonewall president trump's supreme court nominee amy coney barrett. former federal prosecutor jim trusty on dni ratcliff declassifying information that indicates u.s. intelligence had evidence from russia in the summer of 2016 that hillary clinton and her team had personally signed off on a plan to make up the russia collusion story in order to damage trump

an distract from her own personal email scandals. that president obama knew all about it. hillary clinton denying this. we've got the story coming up. former california republican party chair testimony del baccaro, he says the case comes back to the coronavirus. the economy is so bad because trump shut it down when biden himself said he would shut doesn't economy again. look at this story, national border patrol council president brandon judd on the trump administration rolling out a massive dragnet to pick up criminal illegal aliens in sanctuary cities. they're on the run. wanted for homicide, murder, sexual assault and more. just as i.c.e. captured a fugitive criminal illegal alien who has been on the run and on its most-wanted list. we have all those stories tonight. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right

now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. thanks for joining us. you're watching the fox business network. let's welcome back to the show, "the hill" media reporter joe concha. good to be with it you again. both republicans and democrats say the debate was chaotic, such an incoherent brawl now the presidential commission on debates is stepping in it left so many key questions unanswered for voters. the some way the only way to have productive debates to cut off mics. candidate when they step out of line. what do you say about that? >> i have an electric fence here in jersey where i live, elizabeth, we use a shock colar for the dog for the electric fence that would stop any interruptions going on. in all serious, the next debate, elizabeth is a town hall format. i don't think you will see the interruptions like the first debate. the audience is there. audience asks one question to one candidate then gives an answer. so unless somebody will over rip

a microphone out of somebody's hand i don't think you will have that problem. but just in case i suppose they will cut the mics on one of the candidates to make sure those sort of interruptions don't happen. over all there were 65 million people watched last night. you say, hey, that is high number. no relatively is not. in 2016, hillary clinton, donald trump first debate out at hofstra, 85 million tuned in. 20 million less during a pandemic no less. i don't know what that tells us, not as many people are interested. elizabeth: that is interesting data point they made, biden is pressured to cancel future debates. when you're talking to 65 million people that is a lot of voters. here is what else is going on. conservatives ari fleischer, chris christie, michael goodwin on "new york post" said this was way over the top train wreck. it became personalnal over policy. that is not good for the country. michael goodwin said the bulk of the blame falls on president.

"wall street journal" editorial trump interrupted biden long enough even to make a mistake. do you agree with that? >> yeah. joe biden was saved by the bell on a couple of occasions, particularly early on in the debate where trump really had him on the ropes. only after interrupting him several times, will you eliminate the filibuster, more importantly in terms of supreme court, will you stack the court? if there was so many interruptions they ran out of time going to couple different topics. donald trump let joe biden are be joe biden, joe biden would have walked into some traps in those situations. president missed a couple opportunities, talked about isis, killer ran terror leader. kamala harris encouraging bailing out rioters in minneapolis. regulatory reform. israeli peace deals he signed a week ago. all those things were not approached. all in donald trump's sweet spots because interrupting cons

pinning down joe biden who has been in politics 47 years own one thing. instead of touting his record, contrasting with joe bidens. i have a feeling we'll see that in the second debate, elizabeth. elizabeth: voters might find it hard to believe that joe biden says he wants to quote, restore the soul of the nation after he insulted with personal attacks and name-calling. called trump a clown, liar, racist, shut up, man. didn't raise level of civility and decorum there as well. the question is, who so going to take the undecided voters. they could be key to win battleground swing states in the election. we still don't know. frank luntz said a focus group, people were really mad how the debates unrolled last night. what do you think about that? >> i think that in the end probably will come down to more of a base election if anything else, elizabeth. in terms of enthusiasm behind the candidate. donald trump has the advantage

right now. talking to trump supporters and biden supporters, trump didn't lose anybody, people like the fact, maybe didn't like interrupting. there were too many interruptions. they will stick with him. joe biden may have left the left-wing of the party to the side however. already did not trust him. that is the aoc wing. he said he didn't sign a pact with bernie sanders which he did. he denounce the green new deal which he originally supported. he alienated bernie bros, you need them in a close election. in biden only has half a base, donald trump wins. elizabeth: that is striking moment he rejected bernie sanders claim i beat him by a lot. claiming not for the green new deal, it is on his own campaign website as structural thinking for what it is. rick santorum criticized him for

easy mistake, he did not roundly condemn enough white supremacist s. trump did condemn white supremacist after august 17th. he should have gone further, returnedly condemned. what was your thought when you saw that. >> that was a layup, if i asked you, are you against cancer? it is simple. of course i'm against white supremacist its and i'm against cancer. i con denned before. i will condemn again. we have no place in this party. move on to things really matter f you ask me about condemning white supremacist ask joe biden condemning antifa or the violent wing of the black lives matter movement caused billions of dollars damages in u.s. cities. see if joe biden condemns those groups as well. he could have turned that. he missed an opportunity, elizabeth.

>> joe biden claiming that the u.s. is systematically racist, many people say that is totally wrong. he is saying antifa is quote, an idea after people have been killed in riots, property damaged an at least a billion bucks there, you know, minority business owners saw their businesses destroyed. you know, by the way we've got news. a 36-year-old suspect now reportedly arrested in the compton, california shooting ambush of two deputies. president trump said to biden, just even say the words law enforcement. biden wouldn't it. biden could not name support from any law enforcement group. he didn't call on the leaders of portland and seattle to stop the rioting because he claimed weigh private citizen. denied anything about hunter biden getting millions of dollars out of china and russia, when senate homeland security has documents and treasury and bank documents showing all that. that is a real danger zone for biden right now. your final word? >> i would think, elizabeth it would be a danger zone but

everybody is concentrating on trump today in the media and not fact-checking joe biden, was a wire transfer done between the mayor of russia at the time between hunter biden? yes there was. it was documented. that is not brought up that much because trump blots out the sun. he gets all the attention, good, bad, ugly, otherwise. we have debate between the vice presidents. back at it again, a long way to go, elizabeth. the next 33 days will be a long decade however. elizabeth: guess who will be back on the show? you. we hope you come back to break it down, joe. come back soon, okay? >> compliments will get you everywhere, elizabeth. elizabeth: okay, sure. next up, former campaign advisor carter page on this story. former director of the fbi james comey testifying today that he only learned about fbi abuses in the trump-russia probe he launch and ran reading about them after the fact in government watchdog groups. again republicans are asking,

how can comey no so little about an investigation he launched, he oversaw and that he ran and that he got the mueller, robert mueller special probe launched when that fbi probe failed? okay, that story next. president trump: they came after me spying on my campaign. they started from the day i won, even before i won, from the day i came down the escalator with our first lady. ♪.

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elizabeth: welcome back to the show former trump campaign advisor, the author of a book abuse of power, carter page. great to have you back on, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me liz, great to be with you. elizabeth: break down what happened today, carter. former fbi director james comey claimed today in senate testimony that he only found about various negative details about the fbi abuses of the trump-russia probe after the fact, years after he left the agency and by reading government watchdog reports on fisa court abuse when he signed off on the fisa court wiretaps on you. do you believe james comey here? >> well i think there is still a huge number of questions and unfortunately we learned

additional questions. along the lines what you're alluding to there is many questions. elizabeth: he knew in details when he wrote down in notes, russian ambassador appeared legit, in that oval office meeting in january 2017 with president barack obama and others. comey testified he didn't know whether he knew christopher steele's sub source. the main source was a suspected russian spy. he was. they didn't have details why the fbi used that information to spy on you. you didn't know about anti-trump opposition research financed by democrats and more. listen to james comey today. >> i would say in the main it was done by the book. it was appropriate and it was essential that it be done. >> okay. so you're proud of it? >> overall i'm proud of the

work. >> does the fbi director have the responsibility to make the facts are right when given to the court. >> not in connection with the certification, but the fbi director is responsible for anything being done under the fbi director. i don't remember any information reaching me of the source of steele's. i don't remember anything about interviews of the subsource. >> this not just an abuse of power against mr. page and the trump campaign, this is a system failure. and you could be next. how could all that happen and not get up to you, the director of the fbi of one of the most important investigations in the history of the fbi? is that possible? >> i can only speculate because it didn't. elizabeth: carter, do you believe james comey here. >> i have huge open questions and i don't like to pass judgment on anyone liz. i was falsely accused myself

but, a lot of things definitely do not add up. and in terms of his point well, who is responsible for what, et cetera, i really, you know, if, when i was officer in the u.s. navy, if the captain of my ship or the executive officer, if that ship runs aground or has some other disaster, you know the senior management are responsible. i think chairman graham other members of the committee are absolutely right. someone needs to be held accountable and responsible for this terrible abuse of power as he correctly labeled it. elizabeth: okay the fbi counterintelligence division includes peter strzok investigated the russian spy who gave disinformation to christopher steele that hillary clinton's campaign and democrats at the dnc helped finance. so they knew it. they knew he was a russian spy. what is your reaction to that, given the fact that the fbi used, you know, got that

information and in part used it in part to get fisa wiretaps on you, thinking you were a russian asset? >> another perfect example, liz of, how nothing in this whole scam makes sense one bit. the, the concept that he couldn't have known anything, particularly when i sent him a letter on september 25th, 2016, explaining everything and offering to meet with him, to meet with him or members of the fbi, who i had helped for over a decade and as well as the cia and other groups. so so many open questions, so many things that really made absolutely no sense whatsoever. elizabeth: yeah. so they knew a lot about you and still went after you, but didn't investigate the clinton campaign using russian disinformation from the get-go, to try to cook up this russia collusion theory.

that is the allegation that is coming out from the dni ratcliff declassification. you see how circular and weird this is. final question. i know you're not an expert in this but this involves you. the, basically james comey testifying throughout the day he didn't remember, he didn't remember. we just showed it. do you think fbi officials will be accused of committing perjury before the fisa court, misleading the fisa court not disclosing the steele dossier and information about that. >> they have a late to be concerned about. the senators turning on the heat. i am glad you have congressman collins on one much the few pushed for the truth, i'm glad the senate judiciary under chairman graham's leadership are taking steps in that direction as well. elizabeth: carter page, thanks

for joining us. come back soon, okay. >> definitely, liz, thank you. elizabeth: guess who is coming up? republican congressman doug collins from house judiciary. he will talk to us about this story though. we'll stay later on the story about dni ratcliff. we're hitting that later in the show. this is big story coming up. the democrats are mounting even bigger push back to stonewall president trump's supreme court nominee amy coney barrett. this story next. presidenttrump we have the senate, we have the white house. we have a phenomenal nominee, respected by all, top, top academic. did you know you can go to libertymutual.com

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elizabeth: okay we got breaking news. this is story we brought you with carter page, covering last night. doug collins is with us with the breaking news. congressman what is going on. >> amazing to me, jim comey and senate committee today how many times can he get away with i don't remember, i don't know what is going on. then come to the conclusion that he took responsibility when it was okay? remember he took responsibility for signing those affidavits. he took responsibility for actually running this investigation and he thought it was so cute two years ago we

actually, he actually committed to action he took against general flynn, we knew we could get into the administration as they were in transition from obama. we could get in to see what was actually going on. the time american people need to through the sham that is jim comey. should have happened a long time ago. what we're seeing is just bad at this point. elizabeth: what are you prettiesing to do about the fbi? we hear you have breaking news for us involving fbi director christopher wray? >> leads to us, goes to christopher wray. christopher wray is stonewalling dragging his feet getting information to the hill. senate committees or other have to ask for information, it takes forever to get out. last declassification from john ratcliffe it went back to hillary clinton. elizabeth: are you asking for him to resign. >> we are. again. elizabeth: you're asking the fbi director asking him to resign, who else bides yourself. who else is asking him to

resign? >> they can line up me for four or five months. i'm tired of christopher wray running department, making changes he is not making, we look at management and upper echelons for the fbi. time to go, time for a change, we repeated today it is time for him to resign. elizabeth: we're going to stay on the story. we have to move on what is going on with the supreme court nominee amy coney barrett. the senate democrats refused to meet with her. chuck schumer so said to do so would legitimatize the process. they will try to stonewall her nomination, so she doesn't get to rule on obamacare case in couple months that could invalidate it as an constitutional because of the individual mandate, forcing people to be hit with a tax, if they don't buy health insurance. can they get, can that happen if she is seated anyway, why stonewall? >> i think they are trying to make a point for the election

this is political theater for schumer and rest of the democrats in the senate. this is sad thing, they went from every attacking this women's faith, family, background and now attacking system. the president is doing exactly what he is supposed to do. the senate is doing what they are supposed to do. to have hearings they can act on it. the american people will get to vote what president trump has done. that is what they're scared of. they don't like a female, the female has been nominated, nominated by president trump. she has impeccable background, impeccable law credentials, she will interpret the law and not ledge hate it. they are scared to have someone on the bench for number of years faithful fidelity to the confirmation. they which try to smear here until they can get this done. elizabeth: congressman, does it make any sense they're attacking her on her catholic faith when the majority of those sitting on the supreme court are catholics? judge barrett would be one of six catholics on the bench.

she would be joined by an episcopalian, who was raised catholic and two jewish. why go after her about her catholic faith. >> it is amazing. the constitution says there will be no religious test for office. when we understand this. they're again, they have antipathy to religion. it gets to heart of moral issues, health care, abortion, the tragedy that has been in our country for 50 years of murder of innocents in the womb. they don't want to talk about, contradicts their own catholic faith in many instances. attacking her for her catholic faith praising joe biden for his. michelle obama say he is guided by faith. seems only guided by faith when their faith split fits the political agenda. they don't like the faith differs from their political agenda. elizabeth: they don't like that judge barrett criticized the affordable care act individual mandate in the past.

you know the thing is, the president said last night that judge barrett does have liberal supporters including harvard law professor noah feldman. he was one of the experts that democrats called in to testify. notre dame law school professor, carter snead. he says liberals should not fear judge barrett. we keep hearing again and again the smears and attacks, people on the other networks saying, you know that she is quote, a white come newser colonizer using two adopted children from haiti as quote props. if you want to really alienate people, not have people listen to you anymore, ruin your credibility keep saying things like that. what do you think of that? >> i think it's disgusting. they should be fired immediately. i mean when you think about this, this is a lady who has kids, who has a special needs child, who has adopted. this the the epitome of family

you want in america. shows love and god given us hope and grace through our families. she is the epitome, accomplished woman outside of her family, influencing other women to be the best they can be. it is abhorrent other networks are saying that because she adopted children use them as props. their only concern is they want amoral agenda that seems out from what she is. why are you attacking ones you supposedly lift up. the other networks lift up women, all other opinions. they don't like it when it differs from them. they should be fired as well. elizabeth: she is simply saying she is not going to legislate from the bench. she will not treat the supreme court as super legislature for anybody's political ideologies. congressman, good to have you on. will you come back soon? >> i will. liz, take care. elizabeth: we'll stay on the story. we'll bring back on former federal prosecutor jim trusty. we'll talk to him what happened with dni ratcliff, declassifying information that and indicates

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elizabeth: welcome back to the show former federal prosecutor jim trusty. jim we've been saying on this story. the director of national intelligence, john ratcliffe will brief congress what he found out. it is declassified information that indicates u.s. intelligence had evidence from russia in summer of 2016 that hillary clinton and her team had personally signed off on a plan to make up the russia collusion

story using the steele dossier in order to damage trump and distract from her email scandal. when you saw this what was your reaction? >> well, my reaction was not complete surprise in terms of the hillary part of it. it is kind of well none she information laundered. she sent information through channels, through different people, dnc, law firms, fusion gps to have it grow root. the problem is not she would do this kind of opposition research that she is pedaling a lie, that all the people pedaled a lie that the fbi was happy to embrace. that is where the problem comes from. elizabeth: she was asked about it on msnbc with rachel maddow, dodged answering the question, flipping the script on trump without getting into details. here is what is going on according to declassified information. the cia run by john brennan asked james comey and peter

strzok, that the clinton team was stirring up scandal claiming donald trump was linked to russians hacking democrat emails. the mueller probe didn't find that. john brennan briefed others about this and barack obama and other security officials. back up. take out the names, obama, hillary clinton, trump. this is about a political opposition research based on russian disinformation, getting into the fbi to get powerful fisa wiretaps that are more powerful than a criminal wiretap. you hit every phone. you hit bank records. you hit everything that you watch on tv. it is a, two or three hop. it is who you talk to, who that person talks to. so here is the backstory. the russians knew about these powerful fisa wiretaps. it exposed so many people on the trump team in the process of doing this. so that means more information about people is bled out into the system. is that what is going on too? >> well it is, but remember,

none of this happened if the fbi, the leadership of james comey, if he doesn't create a culture of double standards where they embrace false information an hid false information and even in one instance created false information in an email. i mean that is the culture of self-rightousness where comey presided over and created would take all of this known disinformation and use it. now you got a guy testifying under oath, oh, it doesn't ring any bells. that is the most impossibly cavalier answer to a question about a sitting or incoming president's investigation. there is no way that the director of the fbi was not deeply enmeshed in these cases, this investigation. there are plenty of cases that wouldn't bubble up to the top. this one would. when he sits there to try to pretend it never came up, doesn't ring a bell, that is patently false. elizabeth: here is the other thing too, we've been covering

the story for three years, here's the problem, we keep hearing from our sources in the fbi and intelligence community, it's this, that tell intelligence officials knew early on hillary clinton was trying to dig up dirt on donald trump in order to fight the election result if she lost. she financed, and her and dnc paid for the steele dossier, was russian disinformation from a russian spy. that is what government documents show. she is basically digging up dirt, the intelligence community officials knew about it, did nothing about it to stop it in order to get at donald trump and to block him. that is the backstory here. will the intelligence community investigate the clinton team and their use of russian disinformation, and also fbi officials who did it too? >> yeah. very hard to know. i mean, ultimately there has to be some political will power that infects the leadership within these intelligence agencies. i just don't know if it is there. this is a story that we ignored

at our own peril. to have a weaponized fbi that leaks, that lies, that creates fisa investigations, that should have been shut down, that even blows past the sitting attorney general a democratic attorney general to do an ambush interview against all rules with michael flynn. there is documented misfeasance, malfeasance i should say throughout these investigations and just flip responses. unless we have a little bit more after united spirit wanting to know what happened, who approved these actions it could die on the vine. i think that is a bad result for history. elizabeth: critics keep saying and sources we talk to within the fbi who are furious what has going on in the intelligence community this, is absolute strychnine. this is poison to america's democracy and liberty. james trusty, come back soon. thank you so much. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up former

california republican party chair tom del baccaro will talk to us what the backstory was about the chaotic debate and what it really revealed. everything comes back to the handling of the coronavirus. as joe biden said the economy is bad when trump shut down the economy when he really didn't. biden told abc he would shut down the economy again. what is the best way forward and peace and unity over this? that story next. president trump: we're reopening, we're doing record business, he wants to close down, he will shut it down again. he will destroy this country rne? or could it play out differently? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot. almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didn't experience another. -and eliquis has significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment.

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bad because trump shut it down when joe biden already told abc news he would shut down the economy again over covid-19? did you catch that? >> i did catch it. of course he said trump shut it down too soon in january. in april he said trump shut it down too late. now he is trying to have it trump is the cause of the shutdown but we know the blue states very source the red states on the shutdown now. here in california it continues to be shut down for no logical reason in some cases the way counties should be shut down. he is trying to have it both ways. he needs to be called out on it like you are. elizabeth: of course everybody wants to be safe over covid-19. it is about what is the best path forward. he wants to shut down the economy again, joe biden does, raise four trillion dollars in tax hikes. that could create more job losses. he couldn't answer why running mate kamala harris not trusting

vaccine science, with places like johnson & johnson, pfizer and moderna. critics say that was vaccine fear-mongering. >> exactly. he is trying to say trump lied to the american people but the biden lies with regard to covid are far worse. he says trump has no plan. we know trump's plan. ppe, "operation warp speed," for a vaccine. unemployment benefits. 150 million new rapid tests. trump is actually doing those things. then he goss with this type of fear-mongering. there is a whole list of biden lies on covid which far exceed, make people think and worry that nothing is going on when in fact it is. elizabeth: yeah, listen we all know, we don't want to take a bad vaccine with side-effects i mean just to try to derail the whole thing, it seems bonkers and oaf the wall when we heard that criticism. cnn mocking president trump for blaming china for covid-19 when 17 u.s. intelligence agencies

earlier in april said yeah, it did come out of china. we see the coverage here. biden claimed in the debate that president trump did not ask china's premier xi xinping to let the u.s. officials into the country, into china to investigate coronavirus. i mean that was false. "washington post" said that was false. u.s. officials were already in there in february before the democrat debate which didn't even, which was the first time they mentioned covid-19. democrats didn't mention covid-19 in their debates until late february. >> absolutely. biden was still having large events into april. if you watched, track fauci's statements january through march, trump followed them all. nowchy on march 9th. it was okay to get on a cruise. a week later they shut down the country, trump went along with this. but the problem here is biden lies at the debate stage and cnn and his followers there, they won't know any different. that is why it is really

important for people to talk to other voters and say look, here's the truth of the matter. if biden wants to take four trillion dollars out of the economy and liz, did you hear his fantasy. oh, that will grow the economy. you can't take away money from the private sector and say oh that is growing the private sector. elizabeth: i know. that didn't square either. it is about massive government spending when u.s. taxpayers are financing, already four trillion dollar budget here in the u.s. it's, it is getting out of hand. tom del baccaro, great to see you. come back soon. >> take care. elizabeth: good to see you. still ahead, national border patrol council president brandon judd on the trump administration rolling out a new massive dragnet to pick up criminal illegal aliens in sanctuary cities. you won't believe the list and what they're wanted for. they're wanted for homicides, murder, sexual assaults and more. i.c.e. just captured a fugitive other than the run who is on the

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♪ elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show national border patrol couldn't sill president brandon judd.

brandon, always great to have you on. the trump administration next month will do a major dragnet a criminal illegal enforcement blitz in sanctuary cities, colorado, pennsylvania, california. these are sanctuary areas. so the big push next month. your take on this because now we hear democrats saying oh, he wants to be seen as law and order president, your take on that? >> okay. first off i'm going to address that. i will go to the whole reason we do this in sanctuary cities first place. the democrats talking point he only wants to do this because he wants to be seen tough on crime that is completely, totally false. the fact of the matter for four years president trump has been very much on the side of law enforcement. he has been on the side of haw and order. the safety and protection of the american public. he has done that throughout his entire administration. he will continue to do it until the end. he will continue to do it another four years. he wants the american public to

be safe. we have to circle back, we have to ask ourselves why do we have to have this dragnet in the sanctuary cities the simple answer is because these criminals who do not have a right to be in the united states, who came to the united states and then committed further crimes, they were already in the custody of these police age is and they were let go back on to the street. these are dangerous individuals, that because these sanctuary policies does not let local law enforcement adhere to the i.c.e. regulations that have been put in place, they let these individuals back on to our streets to commit further crimes. elizabeth: you know in denver i.c.e. just captured a fugitive criminal illegal alien on its most-wanted list. he was a 36-year-old suspect. he was previously removed from the u.s. in 2005. he came back in 2010. when cops pulled him over driving earlier this year in lake county, colorado, he was driving without a license. he refused orders to exit his

car. then he reached for a screwdriver and tried to stab the officers and tried to choke another officer. he had to be hit with pepper spray. he got tased he was arrested. a judge let him out on bail in june. that is when he became a fugitive. >> yeah. just because a judge let him out on bail does not mean that denver couldn't have held him and turned him over for i.c.e. for i.c.e. to remove him from the united states. in fact when the judge let him out on bail it was the police's responsibility to turn him over to i.c.e. they failed to do that. which is why weiss had to go after him -- i.c.e. had to go after him. the fact of the matter i.c.e. got one of the individuals on their top 10 wanted list is testament to exactly what president up is doing as far as law enforcement and safety and security of the american public. we have to get rid of these individuals. we have to go after them. we have to make our country safe. elizabeth: you know, we've been covering how i.c.e. has announced that it arrested more

than 2000 criminal illegal aliens from 20 countries in a series of operations just this past summer. the vast majority of those arrested having criminal charges or convictions. something like nearly nine out of 10 caught in the operation, they were wanted for crimes like murder, homicide, sexual assault, drug trafficking and kidnapping. also abuses of minors and child abuse. so, it is not just central america or south america. it is from asia and elsewhere. so you know, i.c.e. is up against a wall here with these sanctuary cities though. this is the real catch-and-release problem inside of the u.s., >> it is, it's no longer the federal government participating in catch and release, it's now the local law enforcement, but you bring up a great point, border patrol agents, ice officers, they don't just deal

with individuals from mexico from guatemala, honduras and el salvador, we deal with people all over the world, we deal with people from russia, china, everywhere that we can possibly imagine and this number of people that the trump administration is deporting is having direct correlation on border security, there is a reason that we do not have as many people crossing the border illegally today as what we did under the biden and obama administration, the reason is trump has gone after these individuals and dropped immigration into the country. it allowed us to go after the drugs and freeze out our hands to go after the drugs to keep the market public safe and the stopper children from dying from overdoses. >> brandon judd, thank you for joining us again, thank you for your service for our country. great to have you on again. come back soon. i am elizabeth macdonald, you have been watching "the evening edit" on fox business.

thank you so much for watching and we hope you have a good evening, join us again tomorrow night. ♪ ♪ >> good evening everybody, breaking news this hour, the senate has passed a short-term funding bill just hours before the deadline to prevent a government shutdown, the 84 - 10 vote keeping the government funded at current levels through the 11th of december. president trump holding a fundraiser in minneapolis suburb before heading to a rally tonight in duluth minnesota. the president trying to become the first republican to win the state of minnesota in nearly half a century. his visit today follows a dominaer