the president testing positive in the market reaction, i will tell you that the market reacted negatively, down 600 to start with and now we are down to 75, a huge drop for the tech stocks in the nasdaq down to 37, my time is up completely, neil cavuto it is yours. neil: thank you very, very much. for the next couple of hours we will keep a very close eye on the market, you know the drill, when they are volatile we will be going through everything and anything whether if they have anything to do with the guess that we are chatting, as stuart has pointed out the selloff although it was a lot worse a lot earlier, we want to update you, not only the president's condition but we will update you on those as they continue to look around the universe when the president and the first lady came in contact, this is what we can tell you the people who have been testing positive for the coronavirus, besides obviously

the president and the first lady and rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel and we just learned about senator mike lee and all of this started with hope pics, the mike lee development that we are indicating, he sits on the judiciary committee, a number of democrats have been calling for delaying the confirmation hearing or knocking altogether as a result of this, we do know that judge barrett has already tested negative but again the news only is going to prompt more calls for him to be tested yet again, among those who have been testing negative besides the judge wilbur ross, the secretary negative, steven mnuchin, the treasury secretary, negative, alex azar the health and human services secretary, negative, yvonne cattrall, mark meadows, the chief of staff, negative, secretary of state, mike pompeo, negative, the

defense secretary, mike esper, negative, bill barr, the attorney general, that was known yesterday, negative, the widespread contact tracing to get to the bottom of anyone who was 50 feet with the president of the united states rather traveling or yesterday when he was in bedminster new jersey, we are going to talk to joe pisco a little later, he was at the new jersey event and we get different reports, others say he was very energized and very engaged in very within very funny. but joe was there so he will know, we will be going to him in the next hour, actually very, very soon. one thing we are following on this, how widespread the impact, nancy pelosi said something interesting concerning stimulus, this is change the dynamic in other words the president's

condition testing positive for the virus, might change the dynamic on this, whether that means improving the odds of both people coming together getting something passed, but we are monitoring that as well, i mentioned on the outset what this might do to the judge. hearings and whether it pushes back or any impact whether it needs anything or a key member of the committee has come down with a positive case of the virus it might be delayed getting there they would not delay the entire committee, it would delay his presence and he might be late for the confirmation hearing, so much that we do not know, edward lawrence is following this and putting a lot of things together that we do know, edward what are you finding out. >> about information swirling, the white house is functioning normally, the business of america is taking place as we go forward, president donald trump does have mild symptoms related sodas the first lady she's tweeted out that she has mild

symptoms and they are getting the care of a doctor right now to figure out and treat the symptoms but as that is happening the business of america is going on in there able to carry on that work and in fact this morning the president talked with staff chief of mark meadows, going through and not really talking about the elephant in the room, listen. it's a great thing about this president, not only is he staying committed to working very hard on behalf of the american people, his first question to me this morning is how the economy doing, how are the stimulus talks going on capitol hill. >> the president circled the people there are being tested for the coronavirus, you listed a number of those testing negatively so far and i can tell you any white house official close to a camera is giving the message that nothing stops, listen. >> our government, senior staff,

we are in motion, the business of government is continuing, i do want to talk about today's jobs numbers, they are better than some people think in the overall economy is looking very good. i myself personally tested this morning negatively. >> you mentioned the president sons of barron tested positively, give a statement from the first lady spokesperson that statement saying barron has tested negative, i'm sorry negative, and all precautions are being taken to ensure he is kept safe and healthy, the vice president also testing negative, the president is in the residence right now and he's been on the phone this morning talking to a number of different people including senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell says the president is in high energy, good spirits and mitch mcconnell through tweets as the president wanted to know about the confirmation process and he updated him on the confirmation process adding he talked about the supreme court nomination and how it's full steam ahead, what is different

here at the white house, the doctor, the white house physician is working closely with the president otherwise i'm told it's business as usual here at the white house. stuart: edward lawrence thank you very, very much. in the meantime were looking at reaction from the democratic ticket, we know that joe biden kamala harris have indeed been tested and kamala harris tested negative and were waiting to hear the results of joe biden about both candidates enter best wishes and prayers to the white house, peter doocy with the latest from ticket biden. what are you hearing. stuart: we are not hearing anything, joe biden is supposed to be here in an hour and 20 minutes with remarks in grand rapids but he still has not left his health house in the wilmington, delaware area, they travel in a plane alongside biden anywhere that he goes when he leaves town just reported to all of the networks that they do

not have any update about timing but they did indicate which is now obvious, he is not going to make, if he decides to come at all, he is not going to make his first stop in grand rapids on the economy on time, 120 local. in recent days, the harrison joe biden campaign officials have been telling us that he and harris and stafford to interact regularly are tested a lot and if vp biden or harris test positive, they will tell the parent interpublic so they can be transparent, we know harris tested negative and she did leave washington, d.c. for a campaign event in las vegas later on today. still waiting to hear about joe biden, he is supposed to be remarks about the economy a virtual fundraiser and immobilization event, we did notice on wednesday he took a train to pennsylvania and ohio and dozens of biden supporters started showing up to cheer the

motorcade and in these groups there are masks and are not a lot of social distancing but biden rarely gets too close to them before he does anything or goes anywhere he consults with the group of public officials a group of expert to get together for times a week to brief him about signs concerning covid-19, michigan is a state that is critical to biden's hopes of winning the electoral college and is picked to convert every car and truck to electric tailor-made for auto manufacturing minded michigan voters. earlier this week, biden on his way to the debate the biden campaign showed off their newly set in 37 campaign plane much larger than what he was traveling in at any point the cycle so far and said biden harris on the side, that was a signal that campaign travel was about to pick up especially places far away from delaware that are harder to reach in smaller planes but as of this

morning the campaign trail has gone cold, we do not know the status of biden strip and that is going to depend potentially on the result of his covid test which he is apparently still waiting for. stuart: real quickly, the vice presidential debate up next, next week in the second presidential debate on october 15, the biden camp indicated either or could be affected by this were waiting to hear from the president and his people. >> from the biden perspective, we don't have any information other than he has been tested and he might still come because they might cancel the event. we have done reporting with term campaign officials were planning and negotiations about ground rules and at least as of right now, they do not expect any

disruption to the vp debate or the presidential debate which is less than two weeks in miami, that is also subject to change because it feels like the world is changing every five minutes since 1:00 o'clock this morning but as of right now the debates are still on with both candidates in person, salt lake city in the town hall in miami. stuart: thank you, my friend, peter doocy with team biden, we should stress that the president would be in court team 14 days which would bring us to the debate itself, some say it could be as little as ten days, there is some precedent for this, we have something early similar back in 1960 and not close campaign between vice president richard nixon and senator john f. kennedy, nixon had knee surgery done and all of a sudden got a lot worse, he had a pretty bad infection that lingered for a couple of weeks and shows up at the first debate, he was sweating and enduring coming out

of that, a lot of people were urging him the vice president to put off the debate, he is like a trooper that he might've regretted that because the first debate the most-watched debate before the two had with each other, that was the one that change the tide and brought john f. kennedy back in front to the polls and that's where he stayed and got elected in one of the closest elections in u.s. history, they are very different in a number of respects, that is the last time we have seen anything quite like it, what happens right now congressman mike green republican, he is also a physician by training. if you don't mind with a smarty-pants a doctor and you, what would you advise the president, if yes to be courting for 15 days, would he be good enough, is that enough clearance

time to make that debate, technically he would have the quarantine and right up to the deadline but would it be wise? >> thank you for having me on, those are two great questions, what i would advise the president is the normal stuff with any cold or flu, drink plenty of water, get your normal amount of rest and with this president is four hours a night in add boosters like zinc to decrease the symptoms of the common cold which 25% of those viruses or coronavirus and you should probably take a little link and make sure vitamin d3 levels are good and that is pretty much early on with mild symptoms i would advise, the cdc has revised its quarantine instructions down to ten days, there are other little aspects, you have to be fever free for

three days but the total time now is ten days and i think there will be plenty of opportunity to make the next debate. stuart: why does he have to watch for, he is older and in the vulnerable group at 74, you look at a patient like that a lot more closely, one of the things he has to be on guard and his doctors watching closely. >> they need to monitor his symptoms and is particularly oxygen levels in the blood and interestingly enough sneak up on people and they can be talking with the virus and have substantially lower oxygen levels in their blood, some of the side effects of this virus are clots critically in the capillaries in small vessels, to be watching those kinds of things and just a common stuff

early on that you would for any cold or flu. stuart: i would like to go back to the congressman part of you if you look at the president schedule over the last couple of weeks or so you been a lot of places in there to do a lot of contact tracing, back to washington matters in the stimulus bill that they worked on in the house, we don't need to show this particular thing anymore, i want to show you stimulus and the possibility that this is in a weird way approving the odds of getting something done, nancy pelosi called a change dynamic, do you think it is. >> at least on our side, leader just announced they are getting closer every minute and we need to be ready to come back, they will release after the most recent vote but we gotta be able to come back in 24 hours because we are close to an agreement and negotiations are still going on, i don't think it changes our

perspective, we will fight for the things that we think are appropriate and we will fight against the things that we think are inappropriate on our side of the aisle, if it makes them come toward us a little more, that is great. stuart: we will watch it very closely, thank you very much, we used to both sides of the fine brain, to joe lieberman, the former connecticut senator and back in 2000, it seems like yesterday but a lot of people are talking about a whole change dynamic, forget about what it means to legislation on the hill but how it could affect the race, what are your thoughts? >> my guess is that it does not affect but it should remind everybody that even in the midst of the divisive campaign and partisan politics that the health of the president matters

to all of us, when we say the presidency is a continuity of government but the presidency is the president, we all hope and pray that the president symptoms are mild and he will recover quickly, i hope it says the people around are reluctant to socially distant and wear masks, it could even affect the president, my guess, this is a hope and a prayer that the president symptoms are recorded by the white house to be mild and they continue to be mild and fade away and then he is back on the trail in the campaign continues, hopefully the drop in the bitterness that characterizes the first debate. stuart: senator, you know the president well and his energy level, the 74-year-old guy who circles around much younger

women minute, they are trying to get back on the campaign trail itching to appear at the debate, he was not a fan of the debate commission ideas and to prevent the stuff that we saw in the first debate earlier this week, where there were a lot of interruptions and all of that. he seemed eager to keep fighting, i'm wondering if he is going through ten or 14 day quarantine. , whatever it is, it was hard getting back to 1960 with richard nixon very different senators but he had knee surgery and worked into an infection, that was only days before the debate when he showed up with john kennedy and was not ready for that. i am just wondering, whether there might be talk of pushing back the next debate or whether the president should go through, i know much depends on how he's feeling and doing, but what do you think. >> my nonpartisan advice to the president would be to listen to

his doctors, it's quite possible he will be ready for the next debate but it is possible that he will not come i think we have to give them a few days to see as doctors how he is feeling, there is no great harm with the second debate as chris pushed back to give them a little more time to be ready, and personal medical advice and advice to give to him because he's our president, commander-in-chief but frankly for him i don't think you should want to go into a debate unless he is feeling as good as he possibly can and right now he is obviously not. stuart: thank you very much, you are quite right, we want him to get better. right back at you, you're quite right about that, joe lieberman on all of that, we have dramatically paired our losses, i suspect those comments about a change dynamic attributed to nancy pelosi on the stimulus

measure and that they might hint of getting something done, might might have changed that, can i be anymore guarded or cautious in my comments, that's only thing i see changing things. when we come back might have been said about the contact tracing, they want to know anyone and everyone who came in close contact with the president of the united states to get tested. he came to new jersey yesterday, big fundraiser, he was with a lot of people including joe piscopo, we were getting a lot of stories, how he was feeling, was he tired, joe was there and talking to inches away from him. we will be back. ♪ that's what my dad does. good job, michael!

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that most of the circle that we've encountered for example the president of the united states testing negative as well, the big exception, not only the president and the first lady but of course those around him particularly senator mike lee who was in the company of the president and later in the week with judge amy barrett but beyond that in the republican national committee chairwoman, the fact of the matter there's limited positive cases reported this far, that might be a relief as well as talk that we for nancy pelosi that the whole condition with the president and the first lady testing positive might've changed which she calls the dynamic regarding virus spending, we will keep you up-to-date on that, i want to go to my buddy joe piscopo, mover and shaker in political media mover, he was with the president

yesterday when the president edited for big fundraiser in bedminster, joe i would like to pick your brain a little bit, how did he appear to you and how did he seem to you? >> top of his game, i've never seen a more energized, it is 20 minutes from the house, as a private citizen just to observe the president coming by bedminster to think his friends it's like he raised money, that is his neighborhood, i have to tell you he was warm, vulnerable, charming, funny, took time, he stood there and as i watched him yesterday, 3:00 o'clock yesterday afternoon and bedminster new jersey, i was not in the ip, i was in the cheat seats. neil: i am surprised they let you in, that's rather telling.

>> they thought i was joe penn she, what i gotta say. , i'm talking to guys around my age, you're a young man mr. cavuto, i said look at how strong this guy is, looking at president trump, he was focused, his mental clarity was off the charts because he kept asking, he stayed into the speech about a half hour or 45 minutes and then he did questions, people kept asking questions and i wanted to say is he wanting to go, he stayed on game and objectively, politics aside, we were amazed at the stamina, strength and how strong his voice, his tenor and his mental acumen was brilliant, i don't know what to tell you, i'm shocked. neil: i'm glad to hear that from you, we hear other reports and he was tired, seemed fatigued,

you did not see any of that. >> no, let me tell you, on the stage virtually i know when you radio thank you on the salem network and i do every morning, you and i talk about it, you do all the way you do all the hours of television and i know what it's like, i watched this man yesterday, our president of the united states and i appreciate the opportunity on fox business and i tell you the president was strong, top of his game. neil: glad to hear that, you are not seeing any signs of someone battling a cold or as it appears, you did not see any of that, were people wearing masks, any of that stuff going on. >> they covid tested everybody and they were masked up, there were social distancing, they were meticulous about everything, secret service, it was such a well-run and well oiled machine, we were there and

i'm just an observer, we were all careful but i'm a german folk, i'm a hypochondriac, i worry about everything, i could tell the presidents tenor was not at the top of his game, he was great, he was just great one dr. asked me on my radio and how was the presidents voice, i said strong as ever and i'm telling you and i keep advertising, those of us of age were saying how does this guy do it, he was going strong and he did several ovens earlier in the day, i've never seen anything was somewhat of that stamina and i think we will be in good shape, everybody catches us, thank god now if you get ahead of it, is just like the flu that you could get over, pray to god, pray to god that i think we are okay, i will tell you my friend the president look

strong as i've ever seen them. neil: that's very good to hear. so you're with the president and in the audience in a tight crowd, are you or any of the people you talk to since getting tested and saying we have to do this whole tracing thing and see if we got hit with it? >> i would imagine people want to do it. i have apparently kryptonite and i have antibody, you and i have not talked about it but long story short i felt kind about a couple months ago, i was not sure i felt flulike symptoms and i started taking medicine, overnight i woke up and i was okay but then a couple of weeks ago i went to the doctor, my friend, i went to my doctor doctor carl adie to get a blood test and i did a blood test, i

got the antibody which indicated i had the virus. so they said you are okay but i don't take it for granted, you can never underestimate, this is insidious and it's a vicious contagious virus and it can kill you you have to be very, very careful in how you do it but they tell me with antibody, at least for the season i am okay but between you and i, i will probably get tested again, i'm hypochondriac, what am i gonna tell you. neil: to be on the safe side, that is fascinating, i'm glad i talked to, you hear all of these reviews and the president was out of touch, tired and fatigued, partly that was not all the case. keeping good health my friend, good to see you, his office is like a mansion.

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neil: an amazing turnaround in the market, the u.s. airline stocks are up on this little tidbit from nancy pelosi urging right now that they delayed their furloughs as an agreement quoting her as intimate on government assistance for airline aid supposedly going to be tucked in to the coronavirus stimulus measure they are kicking around, another reason for the big turnaround in the stocks getting a little more detail from joe biden indicating that he tested negative for the virus quoting from his tweet, i'm happy to report that jill and i have tested negative for

covid, thank you to everyone for your message of concern, i hope this serves as a reminder, wear a mask, keep social distance and wash your hands. he is okay and the president as you know testing positive over the virus along with his wife, he is quarantining in the white house residence for up to 14 days, does not necessarily have to be the full 14 days but we are monitoring that in monitoring the market reaction to all of this, they started off on a bad foot but they have clubbed their way back, jacqui deangelis on all that. >> that is right, you mentioned stimulus, that could be one reason for the turnaround, the biden tweet as well that he and his wife do not have the coronavirus but also as the news sinks in and we hear more from people about the president, you just had joe piscopo on and how robust he was the other day and the symptoms are mild and maybe some digestion factor impacting the turnaround as well. the dow is down on the session low about 1.5%, the fact that

were close to term positive is pretty significant, you had the knee-jerk reaction with the features as well when the announcement first came out and sometime that dissipated, this is all unfolding at the same time as we got the unappointed report this morning, the last one before the election and it's taken attention off of that but i do want to talk about it because 661,000 jobs were added to the u.s. economy and the unemployment rate fell to 7.9% to 8.4% in the job that it was slightly less than expected but the drop in the unappointed rate was pretty significant and it be expectations, remember we saw the unemployment rate peaked in april at 14.7%, we have come a long way as a country, there is a lot of questions that are unanswered regarding president trump and the first lady and the positive test result, it is an issue for the market, more than just the health of the president of the united states because a positive test has an ability to

up in the campaign possibly and we will have to watch as this unfolds as well as the debate and what the president can do or not do in the next couple of weeks. neil: thank you very much, as always thank you, we are getting word from the biden pool that follows a former vice president that they called together shortly, were not sure what the former vice president has to say, you might have heard that is tested negative for the coronavirus and kamala harris, we don't know what is going to say or mention the upcoming debate, not only for kamala harris next week but the next presidential one slated on the 15th but their gatherings, when he speaks we will take you to him, the market impact continues, the dow barely budging after freefalling 500 points earlier, we got death of the fifth third bank investment strategist and nancy davis,

portfolio manager and founder and ceo, nancy, markets are all over the map, stabilizing, now positive in the case of the dow because this might have improved the odds for stimulus, am i getting that right? >> i think it's a reminder for all investors that markets go up, markets go down in the virus is still raging out there in the president and the first lady, my best wishes to them and all the victims of the pandemic, it is still out there we have to be diligent and protect even if you personally do not care about getting the virus, you have to do it for those around you and i think it is a reminder that everyone is human and everyone is susceptible and we need to reopen a get the economy back to life and back to work but at the same time we have to take precaution because anyone can fall victim to it.

neil: it's a very good point, not under might have another impact the wise helpful thing to do, we might be able to do it again, my gosh the most powerful man on the planet can get this thing, i could get this thing and actually has psychological where they re-shelter with spending or going out or taken advantage of indoor dining and things like that that are popping up across the country and that it could have a negative effect in people rain things in, it could affect the economy, markets, what do you think. >> i'm going to push back on that, i think the dominant factor today is what you suggested before, stimulus is probably the driving factor in the market, i do not see people changing their behavior that much to the degree there is a net change in it will probably

be as you suggested earlier that people might be getting a little careless perhaps with social distancing, mask wearing, it might be a little bit more focused, i think that aspect is a positive but there is certainly negative out there today as well. neil: i have not seen technology come roaring back, some of the leisure, hospitality airline stocks are clawing back a little bit but not so technology, what do you make of that. >> i think it's what really people own and underweight, typically on days where you experience volatility weather is the physical plan and the president and the first lady, whatever is causing the market volatility today, a lot of times investors are on consensus positions, owning big cap tech has been very much the right and the consensus view whereas owning things like airlines and

nancy pelosi suite the people don't have a lot of airlines, even warren buffett dumped his airlines. i think it's a pain trade dave that things that people own our going down and people things that don't own our going on. neil: the jobs report out today, the growth continues maybe not as much as we thought but real quickly on the unemployment dipping under 8%, that the headline development, what do you think of it. >> it is not good news, a lot of the dip could be attributed to a decline in workforce per dissipation in rates, that is troubling when we dig into the data in situ areas of decline, one is the baby-boom boomers, 6e giving up employment and when you get long period of unemployment as were starting to get from people who were laid off, this is more curious and more troubling is women aged

35 - 54, we see declining labor force participation rate, overall female participation rates have been the bright spots in the economy, we're not sure why we are seeing declines in the demographic, we could speculate but perhaps women feeling the need to stay at home to support children who are learning online, we don't know the reasons but if it worked to continue this would be a bad development for long-term u.s. economic growth. neil: i want to thank you both very, very much. mitch mcconnell is saying when it comes to the president and testing positive over the virus it will not affect the supreme court confirmation hearing for judge barrett, that despite the news that a key member of that committee, mike lee on the judiciary committee has also tested positive for the virus. we will have more after this. ♪ did you know you can go to libertymutual.com

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neil: this didn't take long, chuck schumer, feinstein on a statement on the upcoming supreme court confirmation hearing for judge barrett, maybe they should be put off in light of the development, chad has more on this. >> we just got this statement hear from chuck schumer, the democratic leader in the senate and diane feinstein the top democrat on the judiciary committee on the process for judge barrett. here's what they say, is premature for chairman graham to commit to a hearing schedule when we do not know the full extent of potential exposure stemming from the presidents infection in the process will become a dangerous one, we are told by republicans that they intend to go ahead with meetings in the confirmation process, the hearing starting on the 12 of october, amy coney barrett has met with 32 senators, one of them we found out this morning

tested positive for coronavirus, that is mike lee republican of utah, member of the judiciary committee, met with her on tuesday but so far she tested negative in the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell spoke with the president about the processes morning, he says he's in good spirits, we talked business, full steam ahead with a fair, thorough and timely process that the nominee, court and country deserve, democrats are worried about ramming through the nomination, that is because the high court will hear a case challenging obamacare november 10. >> of course president trump nominated, promised to nominate supreme court justices who would terminate the affordable care act and he picked judge barrett, that is the president's words, he will only pick justice that will terminate the affordable care act. >> many of the meetings with senators or simplistic 15 minutes - half-hour, senators usually don't probe the nominee on political issues and policy like abortion, that was the case with republican missouri senator

josh. >> i think there is a record as to understanding the judicial role in how roe v. wade fits into that, it's pretty clear it meets my threshold but my standard has never been a commitment with a particular way in case. >> judge amy coney barrett met with one democrat yesterday, the first democrat joe manchin of west virginia, he indicates that he is concerned about her position on obamacare and that can come up in the supreme court in early november and also a couple of other democrats she will probably meet with cory booker and amy klobuchar, back to you. neil: thank you very much, the dow is even money, when we were tumbling earlier, we were optimistic about a series of things, after this. ♪

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neil: the whole world reacted to the latest developments on donald trump, greg in london with more. >> the whole world is paying attention to the health of the trump's and most of us wishing them well, we heard from benjamin netanyahu tweeted

millions of israelis, sarah and his wife are thinking of president trump in first lady melania trump of fulton speedy recovery, russian president putin noted good spirits, optimism and hope, this would help him cope with the dangerous virus, from in the uk prime minister boris johnson wished the president a speedy recovery and he too got covid-19 and got mild symptoms to begin with and then he was in hospital intensive care unit where he admitted touching go and he was out of commission for about a month. over in china, the editor of the state newspaper blame trump for the virus and said the president paid the price for his gamble to play down covid-19 and finally back in europe given the second wave of the virus, the french government spokesman said this demonstrates the virus, no one including those who have shown skepticism but even the french wishing president trump and his wife a speedy recovery.

back to you. neil: thank you, my friend, a little gutsy of the chinese to blame anyone for playing down the virus but this is a weird world. we will have more after this.

neil: all right. remarkable day for the markets right now. the dow is positive.

it had been down more than 400 points at one point again on the president testing positive for the coronavirus, his wife as well, but it's all been sort of clawed back here on reports that all this might be helping prospects for stimulus relief. nancy pelosi among those saying the dynamics have changed a little bit here, also sending out a message to airlines can you hold off on the layoffs you were planning because we could be close to something. anyway, edward lawrence following these fast-moving developments, joins us now in washington. reporter: on that front, very interesting in the statement that house speaker nancy pelosi released there, she said she's asking the airlines to hold off on those furloughs or layoffs because she says there could be imminent legislation, either standalone legislation, she says, or achieve this as part of a comprehensive negotiated relief bill extending for another six months. that is in the statement sort of a reversal about possibly a little bit closer than we thought to a stimulus package.

here at the white house, the mood is upbeat, although a little cautious. there's a lot of testing going on inside the white house. in fact, all of the president's inner circle has been tested and most recently, kayleigh mcenany, press secretary, tested negative. members of the president's cabinet so far testing negative. no positive cases. in fact, a source close to treasury secretary steven mnuchin tells me he talked with white house doctors and because of the lack of proximity to the president, he does not need to quarantine which again further helps the stimulus talks. white house economic adviser larry kudlow says this about the situation right now. >> we have from day one argued protocols in order to mitigate the virus. let's not mistake that. masking and distancing and testing where applicable and of course, constant daily hygiene. we are continuing that message, okay. maybe this underscores that message. i'll acknowledge that point.

reporter: the first lady also tweeting today thanking people for the outpouring of love, saying i have mild symptoms but overall feeling good and i'm looking forward to a speedy recovery. the president's son barron also testing negatively. let's take a look at the timeline. advisers to the president, hope hicks, was showing symptoms on air force one on the way back from the president's rally in duluth on wednesday. she was then quarantined aboard air force one. the president knew, we are told he may have coronavirus before his fund-raising event yesterday. listen to this. >> in terms of hope hicks, we discovered that right as marine one was taking off yesterday. we actually pulled some of the people that had been traveling and in close contact. the reason why it was reported out just frankly is that we had already started the contact tracing just prior to that. reporter: so the president got his positive test back here at

the white house and that is when they tweeted out when they confirmed that he actually had the coronavirus and that was the tweet just before 1:00 a.m. in the morning. bottom line here is business as usual in terms of the business of the day, in terms of running the nation, and that's the message they want everyone to hear. neil? neil: thank you, my friend, very very much. edward lawrence. there is also the issue when we didn't know a lot going in very early this morning, we first got word around 1:00 a.m., very very early this morning, that the president tested positive, is what about the vice president. we later learned he has tested negative, as his wife has tested negative for the virus. but it does get into this orderly transfer of power, things get really kind of hairy here. jillian turner has been looking at the so-called continuity of government when something like this happens. happens very rarely but it does happen. reporter: very rarely indeed. i have spent the entire morning now speaking to senior national security officials, current and former in this administration

and previous administrations, and to a tee, every single one of them tells me now the number one priority is continuity of government operations. in lehmaaylaymen's terms, this making sure the united states government continues to function as normal and they have a plan in place for it to continue to function as normal should president trump take a turn for the worse and get more ill over the coming days and weeks. listen to mark meadows. >> the mitigation plan in place to make sure that the government not only continues to move forward but the work of the american people continues to move forward. reporter: now, former senior intelligence official with the trump administration says the entire national security team is now focused on projecting a united and calm front to the american people. they say any time there's a disruptive event like this, the first priority is to send a signal of continuity and uninterrupted operations to the world, send the signal we are still fully functioning.

section 3 of the constitution's 25th amendment directs that the vice president take over as the quote, acting president if at any time the president becomes unable to execute his full duties. so far, pence has remained covid-negative but in the event that he too becomes ill, speaker pelosi is also taking precautions. listen. >> yes, an abundance of caution, i was tested this morning. reporter: a senior official who managed continuity of government operations for president bush's white house tells fox news this is a situation where you plan for the worst case scenario and hope for the best. it's important that to at least give the appearance of business as usual. now, neil, the president also has another very important role which is to be commander in chief of the nation's armed forces. the good news is that so far, the pentagon spokesperson did put out a statement this morning saying their continuity of operations has not been affected. their command and control structure remains intact. nothing to worry about there.

neil? neil: thank you very very much. we want to get into what was just reported on. the commander in chief still very much the commander in chief. robert charles is former bush 43 assistant secretary of state. robert, always good having you. what do you make of what you heard and the president so far exhibiting no real worrisome signs at this event he was at yesterday, contrary to reports that were going through the media, those who met him there said he seemed fine, very energetic, not at all fatigued. your thoughts? >> yeah, so first of all, as your prior reporters indicated, there's a protocol in place for all of this. secondly, i would encourage people to just keep perspective. not only is there a perception that things are operating as norm normal, in continuation of government. honestly, that's what they are actually doing. having been in government a couple of times, this is a standard operating procedure.

i would also note that the president again is very likely to keep conducting business 12 hours a day or whatever his work schedule is until and unless he can't. in 1981 which is really the last time something like this of any kind close to it happened, ronald reagan, when there was an assassination attempt, handed off power for about eight hours but really, we are not in that situation right now. i think it's important to keep perspective. in many ways, i think people should be concerned about the president but i think they should understand too that he's likely to be just fine. there's a 96% i think recovery rate for those at his age. at the end of the day, we are all americans here and he's kind of showing us that he's one of us. the only other thing i will add is woodrow wilson got the spanish flu in 1919 at the time he was negotiating the versailles treaty and it went forward just fine. he later had a stroke. same thing. fdr had his ikssues. ike had a heart attack. these things do happen. neil: a lot of those things you allude to in the past are the things that breathe cynicism

about this. i don't think it's necessarily here, but things happen that we later did not know about. woodrow wilson, courtesy of a stroke later on, where his wife was all but running the country, if lure is correct. we had a situation with john kennedy masking the severity of his battle with addison's disease. i could go on and on. there was enough concern in the past that things go on in that building we are not aware of. what do you think of that? >> you know, i mean, on the one hand i think historically you are exactly right, but on the other hand, we are in a very transparent environment right now. i think the president is painfully aware that he's going to need, we are near the end of a presidential election cycle, he will need to assure people he's doing just fine. if he isn't, i think everybody would know about it. i truly think we are in a position right now where people should have confidence in the future. in every regard, whether it's the markets, the international relations, i mean, the national

security infrastructure right up through the president is really i think right where it needs to be. neil: you know, robert, you are a great student of history as well. we were talking about some examples prior. something about this 14-day quarantine period for the president and we hope and pray he will be well and get through it, but whether it's 10 days or 14 days, then to get saddled up for a debate, we learn enough from richard nixon at this point 60 years ago, he had some knee surgery done, turned into a pretty bad infection that did hamper his abilities in that opening debate with jfk. very different examples. i always hasten to add that. but would it be wise for the president so soon coming out of quarantine just fine, he's back on the mend, to do that? >> you know, i think it really depends. every president, every citizen that has had this disease has kind of gone through it in their own way. some of them have gotten hit harder, some have gotten hit

hardly at all, some have been completely asymptomatic. my recommendation is take it day by day. the likelihood is he will go straight into those debates without hesitation and after those two weeks, if he's over it even before that and he's quarantined up to that, his antibodies will be fine and he may be out there in the crowds after all. i think it really is a day by day event. i also think this president has a lot of personal courage. i'm not saying others don't. but i think he does. as a result, i don't see him backing away from anything. neil: he does have a high energy level. thank you very much, robert charles. good catching up with you and going through the years and the centuries. robert charles, former bush 41 staffer, former bush 43 assistant secretary of state. want to go to dr. richard besser on some of these models we were talking about. the good doctor, former acting director of the cdc, robert wood johnson foundation president and ceo. doctor, director, very good to

have you back with us. what do you think? how would you advise the president what he should do, how he should handle this quarantine period? what do you say? >> well, i would give him and the first lady the advice i would give my own patients. it's the advice of cdc. that's if you are infected, you need to be isolated from other people so that you are not spreading this. i send my wishes and hope the president and first lady recover quickly but early on, it can be very difficult to know which direction this is going to go. early on, there can be just some symptoms of a headache or some body aches and then it can progress. so you want to be alert for that in someone especially of his age who is at a higher risk of having more severe disease. the good news is that the vast majority of people at every age who get a covid infection will recover fully.

neil: now, how would those odds improve for older folks, the president is 74, pretty good health otherwise. it used to be very worrisome when someone his age would get this. have those odds, the comeback from these positive diagnoses changed versus where they were in the beginning of the pandemic? >> well, the ability to treat patients with severe covid infection has improved. the knowledge of doctors in terms of how to manage everything from oxygen to fluids to treatments, that's improved. but he is in the range where the potential for hospitalization and the potential for death goes up. again, it's when you compare it to other groups that the risk is elevated. the vast majority of people at 74 who get this infection will recover fully from it. but you don't want to take it

lightly. if he were to develop any shortness of breath, any difficulty breathing, that would be a sign that he needed additional support. neil: they are doing a lot of contact tracing as we speak, as you know, for anyone who came anywhere close to the president of the united states and any of these others who have been similarly affected, including the first lady, hope hicks, now we are learning about senator mike lee, a host of others, just to check things out. even the debate commission saying those gathered for this week's earlier presidential debate, were in that room, around any of these individuals, also should be tested. you agree with that? >> yeah. it's so important to recognize that our full understanding of this disease is incomplete. what we do know is that if you have had contact with someone during a period that they are contagious, which can be up to several days before they develop

symptoms, your ri are at risk o getting this infection. close contact is spending 15 minutes within six feet of somebody who is infected with covid. my understanding is that a lot of people were not wearing masks and that's concerning. a mask won't eliminate your risk but it will reduce the risk that if you have an infection and don't know it, it will reduce the chances you will spread to someone else and likely will reduce the risk if you are wearing a mask as well that you will get infected. so it is important to keep track of people who have had contact with any of these individuals, or anyone out in the community who is infected with covid and ensure that they have access to testing, that they have access to the ability to isolate and quarantine if they truly were in that exposure risk, so that these cases, the president and first lady, don't lead to spread throughout the white house, throughout other groups that have had contact with these individuals. neil: i always learn a lot when

you come on and get the big picture of this. i appreciate it. dr. richard besser, former acting director of the cdc, robert wood johnson foundation president and ceo. be healthy, be well, sir. by the way, when it rains, it does pour. we get worrisome news and developments. we are just learning notre dame's president has tested positive for the covid-19 virus. robert jenkins also was at a judge barrett event on saturday. again, judge barrett herself, a former professor at notre dame for the better part of i believe 15 years, has tested negative for the virus. we will keep you posted. that's what my dad does. good job, michael! ok, lindsey now tell the class what your mommy does... my mom has super powers. it's like she can see the future. what?! it's like she time travels in a rocket ship. that's cool!

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period of time at which she had the virus, if indeed she had the virus, but a lot of fast-moving pieces to this puzzle. the markets are desperately trying to digest it. so far, so good on that reaction part. we have jackie deangelis. what's the latest you're seeing? jackie: the latest i'm seeing is the see-saw action you're watching back and forth and it's like every headline we get, the market seems to react to it. overall since we erased the losses we saw earlier in the session, and the futures were showing us we are pointed lower before the session even started, but we have come back to the flat line. i think it's a really positive sign. you have been talking about it on the show, the fact we might be able to get a stimulus package here. that would be huge for the market. it's been taking it into account. whatever changed nancy pelosi's tone or thinking or the dynamics as she said here could be a very positive thing for the stock market right now. it's watching that. it's also watching the commentary on how the president is doing. if we happen to get some sort of sign from him later, maybe he

does an interview, maybe he tweets something out, you know, from the white house, a video, that kind of thing, that he is in fact in good spirits and the symptoms are mild, it could restore some confidence as well. i think the markets are taking this moment by moment, but right now, this flat line level that we are watching just kind of shows you how everybody's approaching this. neil: you know, heather, we talk about the stimulus that all of a sudden looks a little more likely than it did, as jackie was saying, the changed dynamics, the fact that she has sent out a message to airline ceos, maybe you might want to hold off on the layoffs, hinting that something could be very close. what do you think, what would the impact be? >> absolutely. i think it would help the airlines and the stock market right now. you look at united and american airlines that sent the letters out to 32,000 workers furloughing them, and the cost associated with rehiring and retraining, especially if you are a pilot, may outweigh the cost of furloughing them or cost

savings of furloughing them at this point in time. i think the markets are hanging in there. they are actually positive today despite all this uncertainty. the markets are holding up very strong and the jobs data we got, remember, was not that bad. it's actually pretty good, below 8% unemployment at 7.9%. neil: on that same theme, when you look at the fact that now the most powerful man on the planet has contracted this virus, wouldn't it affect a lot of people saying gosh, if he has it, i better watch out for it, maybe i've got to up my game here, wear the mask more, distance more, maybe not go to restaurants. could it have sort of a negative self-fulfilling economic prophesy? in other words, however it's justified health-wise, people might overreact and reshelter, re-lock themselves down, cancel travel plans? in other words, feed on things just as the economy was and is picking up steam?

>> well, i think there are a lot of unknowns and our prayers go out to the president and first lady, of course, but in terms of what is the extent to health consequences if any in the administration, and if he's pretty much asymptomatic and it's just a cold, then i don't think that will change behavior in terms of states and cities opening up, for example. if there is, god forbid, dire consequences in terms of health and if this potentially is bad, i do think it does change behavior. but not where people go into their caves and just hibernate. i think then we all wear masks, we social distance, you continue to reopen the economy and taking safe and cautious measures to do so, but you have to remember, you protect the elderly and you take common sense approach, but there are a lot of unknowns right now. i do think that the jobs report is showing that the economy as we reopen that we are gaining

jobs back but the pace at which we are doing so is slowing a bit. neil: ladies, thank you both very very much for this. we will be monitoring. we are trying to get a followup on this "washington post" story that examines the possibility judge amy barrett had the coronavirus in the summer. doesn't have it anymore, she has since recovered. she just tested negative for it. this at the same time we are hearing mike lee of utah, who sits on that judiciary committee that will be deciding her fate, has tested positive for the virus as well. he's one member. we have heard from democratic players, some who serve on that committee including dianne feinstein, chuck schumer, the senate minority leader, that they should just put all of this off. republicans are saying no, we will not. stay with us. ♪ ♪

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neil: all right. we are waiting to hear a little bit later from joe biden. he has tested negative for the coronavirus. so too his running mate, kamala harris. he is traveling in michigan today. i believe he at least will. he will be talking, you know, to reporters and others at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. so about two and a half hours from now. ahead of that, hillary vaughn in washington, d.c. with the very very latest. hey, hillary. reporter: hey, neil. we are expecting that biden will attend that event in grand rapids, michigan which was really up in the air until just this past hour, when we did get the news that joe biden and his wife, jill, did test negative for the coronavirus. biden tweeting this. i'm happy to report that jill and i have tested negative for covid. thank you to everyone for your messages of concern. i hope this serves as a reminder, wear a mask, keep social distance and wash your hands. that put to rest a lot of concern and speculation that began swirling while biden's

campaign essentially went dark for a full 12 hours after the president announced that he tested positive. they were not responsive to phone calls, texts or e-mails asking for details about how the nominee was feeling after the white house says president trump has been suffering mild symptoms. biden's running mate this morning, kamala harris, announced she tested negative for the coronavirus and is continuing with her campaign travel to las vegas today. she left her home in washington, d.c. this morning. biden will still travel to grand rapids, michigan for an event that was supposed to be under way right now. that is significantly delayed by several hours but so far, we are still waiting for him to leave his house in wilmington, delaware. this is going to significantly change how the campaign continues on from here. if the president were to isolate for 14 days, the next presidential debate in miami would also then have to be delayed. but how they do debate prep leading up to that may also now change and also, there is a question if in-person debates

will be happening at all. >> no one was wearing masks in the room when we were prepping the president during that period of time, and we were -- the group was about five or six people in total. reporter: biden's campaign was supposed to begin in-person door knocking this weekend with volunteers two days after biden had his busiest day on the campaign trail since the primaries and since before the pandemic but that type of in-person campaigning could be on hold. the next vp debate is in utah on wednesday. harris is continuing on the road, campaign travel. she did test negative, of course. the vice president has tested negative. so it seems if there's no opposition from the campaigns, both candidates stay negative and the commission signs off on it, that debate may be still happening. neil? neil: hillary vaughn, thank you very much. bob cusack here to get the read on all this. the hill editor, much, much

more. step back from this, on the debate schedule first. the vice presidential one which seemed to be able to still go, it's next week, the one on the 15th between the president and joe biden, that might look dicey. what do you think? >> yeah. i think they are going to have to push that one back. whether they hold it in person or not i think remains to be seen. i'm sure the presidential commission is thinking about that right now. the ramifications of this are just so big from a campaign, a legislative perspective. what i'm watching for is okay, we really need to watch the next, when is trump going to appear on camera next. if he has mild symptoms as they say, we should see him i would say soon, and that's a big appearance both for the nation and the world. neil: you know, it's a huge difference and i don't mean to conflate the two, but the nation was very worried obviously after the attempt on ronald reagan's life, but when they finally saw

him in the hospital, george washington hospital, he was waving to people from the window, then they see pictures of he and nancy together, it was very reassuring and the nation was pretty scared back then, whether they liked ronald reagan or not. i'm wondering how important that is. it's a night and day difference here and we hope this will go away and wish the president and first lady well, but how important is getting sort of a visual reassurance he's okay? >> i think it's so important. i think it's important to do either today or over the weekend. otherwise, there's going to be a lot of speculation about what's happening. there was a call with governors today that trump was going to be on but vice president pence subbed in. so as the days go on, i do think that more people could be concerned. listen, the president is 74 years old. this is a very serious and can be deadly virus. seeing the president i think would reassure a lot of people

that he's beating this and can beat this and he has the best medical care in the world. but again, this is a very tricky virus. neil: i do want to stress, i want to walk this political line very carefully and with dignity, if i can. i'm thinking of boris johnson and there we remember when he was diagnosed and it turned out to be much worse than thought and in retrospect, really touch-and-go for the better part of a month but people in britain rallied around him even though once he came out and then the finger pointing began about what he knew about the virus and when and a lot of accusations back and forth, but overall, he is more popular now than he was before this whole thing. so play this out. very different examples, i grant you, but how do you think this all plays out? >> it remains to be seen. i think it depends how the president deals with this.

is this going to -- i mean, with johnson, he had a different tune after he was in the icu. it was very serious. it was touch-and-go for johnson. so will the president really pick up his rhetoric on masks and kind of not mock joe biden for wearing a mask or reporters who are wearing a mask? i think it's up to the president. that remains to be seen but i do think anyone, i talked to a couple people who have gotten the virus, it is a mental struggle and it changes you. neil: that's to put it mildly, especially in older folks. real quickly, you mentioned legislation that now could be changing. the coronavirus stimulus legislation, where nancy pelosi seems to be hinting especially when she's telling airlines go slow on the layoffs, i might have something for you, i'm kind of paraphrasing it, that's a game changer, too, right? >> it is. i mean, it looks like the airline relief is something that's going to get done. but when you move a narrow

package that has a good chance of actually becoming law, then the bigger package is usually shelved. i think lawmakers including the democratic house and pelosi and others want to get something done and -- but as far as getting a big relief bill, i thought this morning maybe it could move but now they are moving to a more narrow bill. i think that's all that's going to get done but something will get done i think to help the airlines. neil: on the confirmation hearings for judge barrett, despite the mike lee positive diagnosis, sits on that committee, what do you see happening there? >> the only thing that's of concern and mitch mcconnell there, the health of his colleagues which is an important thing. there's no proxy voting in the senate. you are going to have to have the votes to pass coney barrett and they have the votes. i think it is full steam ahead. but you've got to have your members healthy and that's why i think mitch mcconnell is under pressure to have some lawmakers go home because this diagnosis of the president, it has rattled

everybody in washington from the white house, certainly to capitol hill. there's concern that it's going to spread. neil: thank you very much, my friend. bob cusack following all of this. there had been various reports of who's testing negative, who's testing positive within the inner circle of the president including his cabinet members. we didn't know for sure about the status of the commerce secretary, wilbur ross. there had been hints that he was indeed negative for the virus and indeed, we are confirming that he is. so most of the inner circle, certainly the money guys and the economic guys around the president, all testing negative right now. that would include most of a lot of the family members around him and those who are high cabinet officials. most, again, reporting that they have tested negative for the virus right now besides senator mike lee. we do know the rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel has tested positive for the virus. but the president's family,

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neil: well, it was scary when we first got the news the president of the united states had tested positive for the coronavirus. obviously the fear immediately began as the most powerful man on the planet can get this thing, my gosh, what about the rest of us. that's eased a little bit here but again, they are going back and forth on the impact this will have on stimulus, whether we get it, what it could do to the upcoming supreme court, judge barrett confirmation hearings, how that will be impacted. charlie gasparino weighing all of that, talking to those in power at the corner of wall and broad and what they are saying. what have you got, bud? charlie: well, i was just amazed by how much instantaneous proprietary research got pumped out the minute this thing became a reality that the president of the united states has tested

positive for covid. lots of reports out this morning, some of those reports i think have swayed the market back into positive territory. i think what you're seeing now from these reports, particularly one from strategist that i got my hands on, that's a research firm, really smart market analyst runs it, this really does increase, the fact that the president has covid, the fact that he has, you know, mild symptoms, that he has symptoms, he's not asymptomatic, is rea y really, market investors and traders are thinking that is going to push a stimulus, covid stimulus bill over the line, that now there's much more impetus to get this bill done on both sides, particularly the republicans. maybe they give in a little more to nancy pelosi. at least that's what the wall street research reports are showing. the markets are reflecting that. i don't think the markets are reflecting the fact that this is a mild case for covid. it's an initial snapshot. it may be very mild and by the

way, by next week, we could be on to another story, if you know anybody who has had covid, the symptoms range. my brother had a very bad case of covid. he caught it while he was treating patients. he's a doctor. he was swimming in covid so his case was very bad. he's also in excellent shape. it lasted about two weeks and there were side effects for a little while because he had a massive viral load. but the president may not have that. he may have just, you know, he wasn't immersed in -- he wasn't taking care of covid patients, so to speak. this could be over by next week. so that's also reflected in some of the research reports on the positive side. but i think what's driving the market today, neil, i believe, is that he does have symptoms, that's bad. that forces congress to do something that will pump up the markets, meaning a stimulus, to trade off the headline. i want to say one other thing.

somehow, i became -- i caught the attention of rush limbaugh, some tweet that i put out about gop consultant to house speaker looking beyond the presidential election and focusing on the senate because they think trump has a very low chance of winning. with all due respect to mr. limbaugh, maybe he's losing a little bit of his fastball these days. i'm just reporting what people are telling me. i'm not saying i agree with it. after that debate performance, there was a lot of people who said it was over and it may be over. this doesn't help. i'm just reporting what i'm hearing. so neil, we report, you decide. back to you. neil: yeah. yeah. it's all one way or the other. no nuance. thank you very much, my friend. charlie gasparino. he's just a reporter doing his job, looking at the good, the bad, balls and strikes. that's what it's about. i know some people go you know what, no matter what happens, but it is what it is. that's a great line for these days. by the way, kayleigh mcenany

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neil: all right. with all the attention on the president testing positive for coronavirus, it occurs at a time in the country cases are spiking. third day in a row we have seen 40,000 or more cases recorded in this country. we have more from chicago. hey, mike. reporter: the tennessee titans had two more players test positive. last week's game with the steelers was postponed. now it looks like the october 11th game with the buffalo bills is also in jeopardy, as this coronavirus continues to impact all around us. amazon has disclosed just about 20,000 of their employees have tested positive for the coronavirus. however, considering amazon employs more than a million people, the company suggests that number is actually low. amazon had been under pressure to disclose infection numbers after warehouse workers complained early in this process that the shipping giant was not doing enough to protect them so in a blog post, the company

pushed other companies to also release numbers, writing wide availability of data would allow us to benchmark progress and share best practices. the cruise lines still docked. the u.s. centers for disease control extended a no sail order for cruise ships through october. carnival is notifying passengers that cruises from u.s. home ports with the exception of miami and port canaveral have been canceled. a statement from carnival reads in part the health and safety of our guests, crew and communities we serve remain the cornerstone of our plans and decisions. the u.s. yesterday confirmed some 40,000 new cases of coronavirus. 22 states saw infection rates increase. hospitals are seeing more admissions due to the virus. the cdc says the return to school is generating new cases. colleges are canceling spring break due to -- or canceling spring break to limit exposure to the virus. and we can try to close out with some good news. a study by kansas state university has determined that mosquitos cannot transfer the

virus even though it's getting cold, you don't have a lot of mosquitos, i guess, southern part of the country they still have to worry about mosquitos. neil, back to you. neil: true. didn't know that. thank you. very interesting. congressman dan musier joins us, republican from pennsylvania. he had had covid back in late august. i assume you're okay now. i know you were with the president on air force one on saturday. first off to you, how are you feeling? >> i'm great. it's been a good month now since i have been 100%. been tested several times since, particularly when going over to the white house and certainly when going with the president. i'm doing terrific. godspeed to the president and the first lady. he's got tens of millions of americans, people around the world sending him prayers and counting on him. i'm sure -- he's a strong older adult like myself and he will recover fast.

neil: tell me what you think he's in for. maybe to prepare him for that. what did you go through, what might he go through? >> i will tell you this. it's such a high level of caution on air force one. i was with him last saturday when we flew up to harrisburg and the president has said many times, you have heard it, when you're in his presence, don't mind but please take a couple steps back, people follow all the right precautions, distancing, masks. so he contracted it. when i contracted it, i believe it was a certain night, i traced it back, and everybody was at social distancing, everybody was wearing masks, it was actually a media event, and you know, got it anyway. i'm sure that's largely what happened to the president. it was very unexpected. what he should expect is just what occurred. within 48 hours, that's why it's very likely in my view anyway, he contracted it on tuesday. 48 hours, you start feeling some symptoms, runny nose, cold, sort of fluish, and then it gets a

little bit worse over the next two or three days. little bit of fatigue. i didn't have much temperature so hopefully he doesn't either. then you start getting past it. you are still able to work but you know, you are not feeling very good. and it hangs on little bit longer than you'd like, six, seven, eight days later, you start getting on the mend and again, look, the president, we know his energy and his strength and his positive outlook. so i expect he will have mild symptoms and be back in the action within the ten days cdc recommended period. neil: you think he would be fit enough to make the october 15th debate? should he? should he put it off just to be safe? >> you know, we'll see. that's a little bit of a tight timetable. i'm sure they could move it a day, a day or two, but knowing this president, i'm sure he's going to try. yet at the same time, you got to do the right thing by all people involved. i'm sure he will. he's always got plenty of scientists around him. one thing about the president, he's very inclusionary.

dr. fauci, vice president, head of the task force. look, they have been doing a very good job, very inclusionary under the circumstances. we are getting through this. neil: all right, congressman, thank you. i'm glad you're well. we hope the president will be soon as well. we will take a quick break here. the dow down about 92 points. we will follow what's got the markets moving. they are better than they were this morning.

neil: all right. still way too early to tell whether the second presidential debate can still be made to happen on october 15th, but we are getting indications courtesy of our hillary vaughn, who has been looking into it, that the vice presidential one looks doable. that's going to be at the university of utah, as you probably heard. their policy is simply going to require everybody inside the security perimeter, save for the three main players, the moderator and the candidates, to wear masks at all times. meanwhile, those who are hosting the first debate are urging that there be contact tracing and that everyone who has any worries about being in that room at that time go ahead and get tested. many are doing just that. we are also told that many of the president's activities at least in the near future and during this quarantine period

will continue to be done but probably virtually, or the vice president will pick up some of the slack, as he did today for one meeting. so far, so good. let's hope that continues. right now, i leave you with the dow down about 78 points, to charles payne. hey, charles. charles: hey, neil. thank you very much. good afternoon, everyone. i'm charles payne. this is "making money." breaking at this moment, the world stunned and the markets walloped overnight as news that president trump and first lady melania testing positive for covid-19. that news sending stocks lower in futures trading but the market has been clawing back. the jobs report, well, it's actually better than the headline miss. there was a big pop in consumer sentiment, suggesting reasons for optimism but it all comes back to one more fiscal nudge from congress and the white house. we will get reaction from the white house coming right up. plus, how to navigate through all the challenges. that and so much more on "making money."