down about two, 2 1/2% and minimizing that, nevertheless from that one event depending on how you want to look at at least that's leading the whole market eight individuals, 12, maybe 13, down. we have the nasdaq composite on bb 14 staffers, repeested posite for the virus since what is the downside. apple is down 2.3%. increasingader event, jessica cs that is a big drop. joins us right now, white house the issue of breaking up big correspondent, were you in that tech and reregulating it, that crowd at the time, just carries? is coming to the fore. >> i was at the rose garden big tech down across the board. event and i'm not sure how many neil, it is yours. neil: stuart, thank you very much. we're following all the photos is clear but press were behind, we were not allowed to developments. the bumpy run today is still up be mingling with people in the crowd and talk to, they talk to the last five sessions. you although many of them did not do that. we'll see if they make it five i have been tested since then, of the last six. we're looking at stimulus talks back on picking up the pace. i'm really grateful for all the the we're right now, the white house correspondents by treasury secretary steve mnuchin the way who were attending that and nancy pelosi are resuming event and have been tested since what are mostly phone calls with then as well. each other but you never know with these two. they seem to be making some neil: i'm happy to hear that, a lot of people have said even progress. with her distance, these three that's what we're told. we'll wait. four weeks from today we will know, at least four weeks from reporters have tested positive today the votes will be in. and it might not even from that event but the white house might

wait a minute four weeks from be its own super spreader, i am today is election day. we don't know if all the votes will be in. curious as to whether things are it is a good bet it could take going to change and whether you some time to count them all up. what is at stake a month before think they will change or they should, what is your thinking? the big day? we are all over it. we're also all over the >> yesterday certainly there president back at the were a number of white house individuals who were quarantined white house, first time in three days after being at walter reed maryland. people are saying it's a good thing. others say it is a risky thing. that the president's behavior returning to the white house raised a number of worrisome and because of the number of things. people who have tested positive blake burman following all the within the white house. if you walked into the press fast moving developments right house after kayleigh mcenany tested positive it was completely empty, the bottom and top area because so many people were in close contact with her now. blake. reporter: neil, you have twofold and we know that two of her deputies have been tested positive as well, in the message coming from president trump and the white house today. near-term something that changes, they absolutely cannot the president is indeed back at be there if they were in close the while house. contact with anyone who tested the president says he is feeling positive. neil: maybe i'm making a big well. they are also trying to protect the image he is back at home and deal but that moment where the on the job. president took off his mask from on twitter earlier today the president said he is quote, the balcony overlooking the unquote, feeling great. he also hinted at potential south lawn and then as upcoming travel saying the photographer behind him, there following writing at one point,

i'm longing forward to the might've been others i did not debate on the evening of see, the photographer was well within 6 feet to put it mildly. but almost look like he was thursday october 15th in miami. it will be great. we should note, neil, we have flinging the mask back at the not gotten an update today from american people, i don't know if i'm wrong about that but i don't the president's doctors how he is feeling. know but it was a good image, remember they said yesterday he what do you think. is still not yet out of the woods. this is the read a little while ago from the white house communications director. >> the president's improving >> when he stuck it in his pocket after that and stood dramatically and quickly but there for a little bit and went back around and went back inside listen, we understand he is not and his campaign put out a video that shows his arrival in my out of the woods. he is continuing to be monitored colleague and i put up a story to the effect today how is by his doctor and medical team . pushing the narrative that he's come back from the virus, he taking senior staff around him, defeated it and that the let's slow down the pace. he is working. he is here at the white house. he is making calls. american people can defeat it to but also questions arising over he is meeting with senior the fact that the president of the united states gives the best care in the world, he was at advisors. reporter: after saying yesterday walter reed and other americans don't have the same kind of not to be afraid of covid-19. access to healthcare and some of the drugs like the experimental the president is comparing to cocktail that he had in order to something it is not. twitter labeled this a misleading tweet. flu season is coming up. be able to succumb to the virus many people every year, over in a narrative that the way he is pushing, by the way we don't

know when the last time that the president has tested negative, we don't know where he is in the 100,000, die from the flu even course of the cide either. with vaccine. will we close down the country? no. we're learning to live with covid, with more populations, neil: do you think is a changed man regarding masks with the far less heat that. severity of this virus, i get the president is back here at the white house he is still recovering from covid-19 and has surviving this thing, you can too, i get it but it's beyond taken a host of treatments to that, his actions, it's still early are going to be insure he is on the right path. scrutinized very, very closely, what do you think. >> the message that he put in supplemental oxygen on friday. the video that he put out last a remdesivir treatment he is night, he put out a video last still in the middle of. night and that since the as well as a regeneron antibody beginning of the coronavirus that the treatment has improved cocktail and a steroid, dexamethasone. neil. certainly the white house is neil: blake burman thank you very much. searching aggressively to get all focus on the approval for a vaccine as well which we have not seen yet but vice-presidential debate. that is slated for salt lake city tomorrow. we learned how things have hopeful that will happen soon. changed to prepare for that. the question whether or not when rather than being six feet from the president returns to the each other. campaign trail as you alluded to both candidates will be 12 feet from each other. whether or not there will be requirements rather than strong we're getting word right now, they will be using plexiglass. encouragement that people wear masks. if there's anything that changes i don't know exactly how high or with regard to coronavirus how distinct it will be passing or anything of the like noticeable to folks watching it

on air. we'll all get a chance to see and we don't know when he will that tomorrow. what is at stake for that debate get back on the campaign trail at this time, he says he wants right now that has the to get back out but the white vice-presidential candidates who house director today said even normally don't get much attention, getting a disproportionate amount of it certainly after that, you know, staff is telling him to slow down, he does not have to be raucous presidential debate. working like this at this time. kelly joins us democratic neil: we will watch it closely, be safe and healthy, thank you strategist. joseph pinion, republican very much francesca chambers, strategist. much, much more. kelly, what is at stake for this just updating you on some news vp debate? that you were awaiting for new they're both sort of calmer movies to debut at your local players. that could limit interruptions theater assuming it is open, we we saw in the first debate but are getting word that it is not it has put pressure on both of just james bond that has been pushed back but when all is said them. how would you describe? and done is pushed back a year, >> thank you for having me on the show. i think it will actually be a warner bros. is announcing that batman, the flash and a dune because we all know the way that remake as well as trump handled the debate and two, i've been waiting for constantly interrupting. i think the american people want too, it's not going to happen, to know what they stand for. want to know the issues. for at least a year, we will so i think it is really have more after this. important for american people to

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question? >> why, we have to think about when trump came into office. i mean he inherited a great economy under obama. neil: he made it better right? i'm not denying eight years prior were very, goo was a good groundwork, would you at least acknowledge prior to the virus he brought already low unemployment rates and cut them in half, demographics such as african-americans and women at liens cut them by 2/3 at least acknowledge that, prior to the virus he had a good thing going? >> bell i would disagree with you it was him. i think he inherited a really good economy under obama and biden and got that. what he has done to, everything he has done to businesses is neil: i want to update you on destroy it. that is what he is doing to the economy and he is also doing the item coming from the new that to health care. york times that u.s. military he wants to get rid of obamacare but he has no plan for the leaders including the chairman american people, or people with joint chiefs of staff or quarantine after being exposed to the virus, we are also preexisting diseases. and so, when you think about that, you think about sitting hearing every sense of white house outbreak, 40 senators have today, are you better off four

years ago economically than you been seeking coronavirus test were, the answer is no. themselves as a congressional so there is a real choice for the american people. neil: all right. director tries to trace the source of the virus and facebook >> if they want -- neil: we could argue over the has just removed a trump post timing. i mean, to ignore the pandemic that compares the pandemic to and impact worldwide is a bit the flu saying it spread coronavirus misinformation, no disinagainous. >> no, i'm not ignoring it. neil: well you just did. when it came to health care. >> disagree. neil: comes to health care that is a very valid point. response yet from the president on the exclusion, we will keep you posted, also keeping posted on businesses in the world of joe, i'm wondering if the hurt around the seattle area, president now talk about it more many of them closing their often and yet sort of flaunting doors, dan springer in seattle some of the covid-19 rules like with more. what is going on. whipping off the face mask from the south lawn yesterday, i'm just wondering if he is sort of >> as you have been reporting on your show it's a prolonged mocking this thing to the point that americans are going to be offended by it. one-two punch, not only in seattle but across many of the what do you think? >> look i think, to the extent cities that have been hit by the that americans were offended by violence but certainly with the president trump's issues stance pandemic closed on a lot of stores and shops and after that on covid-19 virus they already made the decision to vote for the other person. all the violence associated with the protest, here in seattle the if we're talking about that persuadable section of americans, again this election was decided by 78,000 voters

across three states just four iconic carwash has been at this years ago. location for 64 years, as you if we're talking about that can see it is closed up, fenced sliver of individuals looking for a reason to vote for in and vandalized over and over president trump i think it is insulting to them somehow suggest that they cannot discern again, 126 street level stores from the fact they were probably have shut down for good in downtown seattle, the latest is columbia sportswear a baby one of the seven million people got a job under president trump, that didn't have a job when he clothing store that has been took the oath of office, before here for 44 years is closed and moving to idaho, the owners say the area is no longer safe, there is so much plywood the -- neil: joe, wouldn't they be offended, wouldn't the sliver be offended ripping off face mask, returning to business as usual from the white house. not seemingly to learned covering glass, windows and doors even businesses still anything to it? open, it looks wrinkly like one big construction zone, the field i hope i'm wrong, the impression of the city is complete we changed, we spoke with one business owner that had four everything was back to it was. break-ins over the last four months, one of them wiped out i am taking the thing off, doing 80% of his inventory and his customers, he dried up. what i normally do. i don't know, for that slither >> all the big businesses are of that undecided voter is that closing down and even the market winning message? >> i don't think, don't think is like 40% right now. the optics were great. having said that i don't think optics alone people will decide the election on. >> other downtown that is suffering, minneapolis which had you will be deciding on a 150 building set on fire and pathway back to the ability to

$500 million in damage on put food on my family's table. do i have the opportunity again chicago miracle mile, more than if i live in one of those 200 stores have been vandalized opportunity zones to have the resources keep coming in when democrats promising to in downtown portland has been gutted, nearly 300 of the 700 obliterate them. issue by issue, kelly will talk retail locations are vacant or closed down, dozens of them about what impact people living and dying, the notion that permanently with big companies somehow that americans were you leakily affected by covid just i don't think is realistic and honest reading of the facts. keeping their workers at home i think if you want to talk this treat. increasingly dominated by people who are homeless and in need of about swing voters, opportunity treatment for drug addiction or to start talking about climate mental illness, covid in the change. writing made a bad situation much worse, many blame city because joe biden just got on leaders for letting the violence stage said he does not support go unchecked. >> if you put some of his life the green new deal. so i think it is an opportunity for republicans. in danger you out of these we're seeing this in swing consequences, there should be no states across the country to borderlines on how were dealing start talking about those policies as well. neil: guys. i wish i had more time. we are monitoring the former with this. >> a seattle columnist who is vice president. he will be in pennsylvania all really not all that conservati day making an address at conservative, he's pretty gettysburg of all places. liberal, the city council is again to harken on the leadership team, we have to come hostile to business and the together as a country. loudest voices on the council we'll get a sense where he thinks the president should be are calling for a revolution, believe me the revolution or pushing on the whole covid-19

whatever they are calling for is hurting the tax abate that they issue a little bit later as well. rely on for the social services meantime i want to bring in that they try to deliver. congressman max rose, the democratic congressman from the neil: not good for the business greater staten island area in environment to put it mildly, new york. we had his opponent on yesterday thank you very much. who says that he says one thing on tv. says quite another by his votes in congress. dan springer on that, on the take a look at this. west coast looking at developments, this is interesting coming from california governor's office congressman rose on last week. reminding diners to wear masks we were talking about you know in between bites, a little where things stand on you know, excessive but the former various stimulus efforts to help mcdonald's usa ceo joins us, so much more, all of this are not folks out. he is for anything and the same time a lot of new york everything that can be done to get another coronavirus package out. are you? in other words, would you city restaurants and finally can of indoor dining and are worried especially the zip codes support another stimulus package experiencing spikes, it's a matter of time before they >> i do but max may say that follow schools and have to shut when he is on tv with you. down, would you think of all of this. >> tragic to say the least, when however when the republicans put you look at the mayor of forward a measure to just allow the ppp money that is already washington, seattle, washington you look at portland, been allocated to be issued to minneapolis, you look at new york, chicago all round by businesses that have been waiting he voted against that.

democratic mayors and governors, he talks a great game when he is a tragic situation, small businesses are going broke if on television. neil: all right. that was from his opponent nicole malliotakis yesterday. i think i added after that exchange with his opponent that the congressman favored a more sweeping part of the stimulus the brazeal and cuomo don't quit fighting about new york city, package. i might have gotten that wrong. were gonna lose the greatest city on the face of the earth, new york is a wonderful place, fair and balanced the these restaurant owners, the congressman is back with us. barbershops, the hair salons, congressman rose, you heard what they don't know what to do, they are being ripped on a political basis, it's tragic no other word she said, you say one thing do to use. neil: i talked to a number of another. doctors and were worried about a new spike in cases and even when it comes to stimulus where are you? >> sure, neil i appreciate you having me on. i appreciate you always being fair and balanced. let's go back to that interview that you and i had last week. though most of those old that is a controllable spike, where i said that there are two politicians can react, some say things in which the american overreact and i'm wondering if we raise revisit shutdown among people do not need right now when it comes to covid relief guns and i'm sure a lot of these and fiscal stimulus. the first is a skinny bill that is not commensurate with the scale of the public health and businesses fear the most. >> idle conversation early this economic crisis that we're morning with a fellow in sweden that i know and talk to him facing right now. and the second is a blindly about why sweden is behaving the way they are behaving, everybody partisan messaging bill that is obviously dead on arrival. less than 10 hours after that

interview, after that conversation, speaker pelosi put a bill own the floor that says look at the science, sweden has not done anything, they tell the people wash their hands, wear a mask if you want to but perfectly fits the label of the it's business as usual, they did latter. not check on the schools or it was a $2.2 trillion bill that businesses the leading herd she knew and the democratic immunity run its course. leadership knew not one republican would get on board they seem to be doing fine, i with and i voted against it. think our politicians are what i prefer is what the grossly overreacted, give the american people a chance to use common sense, we are smart, we problem-solvers caucus prefers, which is a bold, bipartisan framework of 1.5 to care, we don't want to get other people sick, if you're sick go home and stay there, it's not $1.7 trillion of covid relief, that difficult if you use common sense and a politicians get out complete with unemployment of the way. benefits, education relief, yes, neil: i am reading the story on the california governor urging state and local fiscal aid and so much more because that what will actually get across the diners to wear masks in between bites even trying to describe in a tweet that shows an image at a finish line and it will help the dining seat wearing a mask, then american people. is it perfect? absolutely not. not wearing a mask while taking a bike and quickly putting the but it is what is possible right now and it is what will help the mask on again, this seems pretty american people. neil: i will speak with you congressman as i was with her to stupid, your thoughts. get your points on a couple of key matters in this fiscal >> when twitter shuts down trump for what he says somebody ought relief. to shut down the governor of one is on the unemployment california for being that

benefits. you touched on it. stupid. how is anybody that stupid get democrats generally favor elected. i don't get it it is beyond my continuing what we're, 600-dollar a week benefits that imagination, as i said the whole stalled out some couple months thing is tragic and we will lose small business everywhere. ago. are you in the camp keep it 600 i know a limousine company owners going bankrupt because a week, 300 a week, 400 a week, there's nobody traveling, restaurants, beauty salons, keep them, what? >> yeah i answered this question in our last conversation, i'm comfortable if we lower it down everybody you talk to, dog groomers, they are all dying and to 450 so long as there is some if we don't get a relief package type of mechanism in place pretty quick, you will see 50% of the restaurants go bankrupt. further down the road if it is neil: it is crazy, my wif wife clear someone's job has not returned that it could suggest to wear a mask potentially scale up. neil: got that. permanently, that is a separate next question, next question, i'm sorry, it is tight as it was story, we will get into it tight for your opponent. so i do want to be fair to you as well on this the 1200 stimulus checks that are talked later, always good having you on, the former mcdonald's usa ceo. expert on the industry and still about, continuing, start of in a world of hurt. by the way jerome powell might early stages of this pandemic would you be for that as well? not admit this but he did get the market very nervous talking >> i have no problem with that about the state of the economy at all. in the recovery insane we need i'm pissed off the democratic more stimulus, they are off party can be opposed because they're afraid the president's their lows but his message was name is on it. this, if you have to air on the side of too much, it beats the

that is direct help for the american people. that can be part of a bold and hell out of too little. right after this. bipartisan framework. >> looking at what jerome powell, the federal reserve ♪ keeping your oysters business growing chairman said we'll need some stimulus. i'm paraphrasing, bringing it down to its key push, you don't get stimulus, this recovery looks rocky, do you agree with that? >> 100%. that is a statement of fact, not a statement of opinion. particularly as it is clear that this pandemic is not subsiding and has the potential to flair up anywhere in the united states of america. neil: all right. max rose, congressman, from staten island. very good catching up with you. want to be fair with everybody. yourself included sir. and your opponent. thank you for coming on. congressman max rose. we're following a couple of developments at corner of wall and broad. we're moving ahead, concern over some of the things jerome powell is making, remarks at nabe, big

executives and the like, we're going to need, we're going to need stimulus. the risk of overdoing it is smaller than doing too little. right now too little support would create unnecessary hardships for the economy. also saying the expansion is far from complete. those caveats, those warnings from the man who runs the federal reserve were sort of a wake-up call to investors. we're not out of this yet. hardly a "fox business alert" but for many it turned out to be. stay with us. ♪

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neil: it should not shock everybody but the very fact that jerome powell is worried about the economy and how bondable it remains and if it does not get stimulus we put it all together and it did rattle investors, will offer lows early in the day but it took a couple of hundred points out of the dow as soon as we were getting worried that he was worried, edward lawrence following that from washington, what got people anxious. >> the federal reserve, what he did he made his biggest push for fiscal stimulus, the federal reserve laid out how the cares act specifically in the federal reserve help save jobs and help the economy go forward without permanent damage, he said that they created a strong but incomplete recovery so far, the

federal reserve chairman powell believes more physical help is to weaken two small and will lead to a week recovery, the package that is too big has smaller risks and now because the money would be used for the recovery and not waste it. >> the recovery will be stronger and move faster if monetary policy and fiscal policy continue to work side-by-side to provide support to the economy until it is clearly out of the woods. >> powell says interest rates will remain near 0 until it re neil: all right not only political storms barreling down on folks but a big one, another reaches maximum employment and hurricane barreling down on the inflation is on track to run gulf coast. moderately above 2% for some we're hearing that alabama's governor just declared a state time, a source familiar with the of emergency for residents, certainly along the coast. all of this over hurricane delta, now a category 3 storm. talks says powell had a phone conversation last week with house speaker nancy pelosi and steven mnuchin about more fiscal stimulus, pelosi and mnuchin one that could get to be a talking today in the last few category 4 when it hits land. days have been the most regular back-and-forth communication for supposedly near the end of this week or saturday. in case you're keeping count delta is the 25th named

storm of the season. nine of them have been a number of weeks, and fact late yesterday both sides exchange proposals according to a source of knowledge with the talks, hurricanes about half of them it's important to hear how a set have been in and around the gulf on capitol hill night after that exchange about a possible deal. area. listen. >> it one way or another, i all unprecedented. we're following it closely but alabama the first declare a really wash the and hope. state of emergency. others along that region, louisiana, texas, florida, might >> pelosi statement as long as make similar moves. doing her and help possibility we'll keep you posted on that. comments from jerome powell federal reserve chairman, that can help all americans, the warning that the state of the growing pressure on the house speaker as well as steven economy is precarious, that mnuchin from business leaders and also from those laid off as we're not out of the woods yet, well is the fed chairman to get but stimulus is probably better something done. to have than not. back to you. neil: thank you edward, edward better err on the side of too lawrence in washington, were getting an update going from much stimulus than too little. i want to get the read on that with carol roth, former investment banker, much, much political, the latest one turning in the gulf, hurricane more. you brought it up, the delta, now a category 4 storm, expectation for more relief is out there. the two sides are coming adam klotz knows more about together but let me posit a negative here. these than i ever will but that

what if it doesn't happen? seems one of the quicker what if the stimulus that can't be eye-to-eye, despite all the progressions to category 4, with 30 been a very busy year, what phone calls and proposals they do you know. >> at 11:00 a.m. is when the don't get it done, then what? >> i don't think the stimulus is category three hurricane and 1120 was category 4, this is helpful because they won't means test it the way they need to. the reason the economy will end heating up really quickly and up hitting the wall because the when that 130 miles per hour and category for city to the south state and local governments turned off the economy. of cuba, this will make a it is not a stimulus issue. landfall before get to the how do you resuscitate the united states, young hurricane warnings around the yucatán businesses? you have to turn the economy on. peninsula and falling into the stop with the fear-mongering, getting people out there, not downplaying the virus but find cancún area, this is where would first make landfall before away to live amongst it as so targeting the northern golf and i'll begin with the first landfall and you see the circulation moving over the yucatán peninsula near cancún many counties around the world. sometime this evening into early i don't think putting stimulus tomorrow morning before heads into the gulf of mexico, as we out there, we saw the savings rate with the stimulus, people know that has been a place for the storms have been forming a are concerned, they're stashing lot, this is a longer path, that money under their mattress category 4 storm, were gonna that doesn't stimulate the economy that doesn't bring back learn a lot when this runs over

small business, neil. land, that could weaken the storm a little bit, you see neil: what do you make of where the virus is going right now? this latest was the first we've forecast to fall back to category three before intensifying again, when we talk had under 40,000 additional cases reported in the country. about a landfall in the states, that is not again until friday we got up to i believe as high or saturday, still probably a as 54,000 new cases on saturday. major hurricane category three so it is stubborn. winzip over 100 miles per hour, this is a big storm to watch. you have zip codes, vulnerable zip codes in the new york city, even if it makes the move no matter how strong it gets, there metropolitan area all which is a life impact and everything experience ad sharp spike in that we see here as far as oil platforms across the gulf of cases has the government halting mexico will be running over the classes and schools for a little active area getting up towards while. the next stop could be restaurants and businesses as it expands to still other vulnerable zip codes around new york, where is this going? >> yeah, i'm certainly not a doctor and i do not even play new orleans again, this is a place we see time and time again one on tv. a lot of storms run over the last six weeks or so and unfortunately they will gear up for another one by the weekend. back at you. but i do, i do feel like we're neil: i know alabama governor has declared a state of moving in the wrong direction. emergency in advance, i would assume other gulf region states are going to be doing the same yes, we need to take it and soon. seriously and we need to understand the risks but we have >> , this is uncertainty and as to figure out the cost, i'm just

not talking about the economic we said it's a little bit early cost but cost of student but you're getting from eastern texas into the florida panhand learning, the drag that may panhandle, there is a lot of happen there, mental health wiggle room and a lot of folks need to pay attention the next couple of days. toll, people not getting treated neil: they give very much. for other diseases that they adam klotz on all of that, back have. seems like there is such a laser to the economy, we know that focus on this one thing, sort of cities are losing their appeal ignoring all of the other costs in the post-pandemic world, and the risk management. i just feel the risk management there is another way to look at it, that is job openings in around this has been so poor at metropolitan areas, they are every single level of government. we've got own away from relying crashing and i mean crashing, on individuals to going to what this could mean we will have the ceo christian sullivan collectivist, central planning wong, thank you for joining us we'll look to leaders to do what is right. as we know throughout history that never works out. so i am very concerned that if this is worse than i thought and more widespread than i thought, they, the powers that be try to what takeaways do you have? go in that direction again, that >> certainly what were seen, one it could just have huge toll across every type of cost that thing it being one of the world is imaginable. leading jobsites, we get a good neil: all right, carol roth, view into what jobseekers are doing and how employees are great catching up. sorry for the limited time. reacting and i've seen a carol roth, former investment different picture and how covid has impacted smaller geographies banker. says as she sees it.

isn't afraid to offend either versus larger mattress. as you expect would have greater side. much appreciated on that front. by the way some developments concentration, the much more impact on covid in the economies we're following, apple announced it will have a live stream event on october 13th. in metro shrink quite a bit that is the beginning of its about 20% during the covid. two-day prime day event as well. a lot of people do a lot of versus smaller geographies where shopping. they have not been impacted by save it for that moment. i can only assume this might be covid white have a more a new iphone announcement dispersed population, less shut normally around the time everything has been delayed this year with the pandemic, what have you, but that would likely down and with the economies of be a new iphone announcement looking pretty similar to what they look like and pre-covered levels to be less than 5% of the and other goodies. decline. definitely seen a different that is not typically how it has picture in our data when it done, but that is not a typical comes to larger areas versus year, it will be live streamed, smaller geographies. it will be virtual, and not be in person. stay with us. neil: you are absolutely right, looking at these numbers in los angeles, the number of job openings down close to 30% where they were a year ago, washington, d.c. almost 26%, new york city 24 plus percent, san francisco 21.7%, the size of the pandemic and the violence crime, those type of issues come up, is

it a combination, what do you think? >> i think that the main culprit for all of this is a virus, somebody feels like the viruses in the driver's seat when it comes to the pace in which we recover from this, there are a lot of factors right now, were also seen and go to the review site and in the wake of george floyd murder, we saw 63% increase in people mentioning diversity, inclusion, topics of racial justice in their reviews and how they are reviewing workplaces and that's a trend in which were seen in which were trying to shine a light on in crating greater transparency with all employees in the space. she when it is not all cities, liking gainesville florida, up 7%, bismarck north dakota, 5%, is the size issue of the city, how would you describe the

government job openings. >> primarily the size of the city which goes on how concentrated you have people living together which impacts the spread of the virus, come back to say it's a virus is a primary driver, your seen secondary effects as well, one thing that is a new trend was seen companies embracing remote work as the only person covid and then also having a future look that over the longer term they believe remote work and be good as well which is free workers to leave the metropolitan cities and now potentially leaving another geographies which was not an option before for a lot of workers, that's another trend with large metros and in favor of smaller locations. neil: all right, ceo christian sutherland wrong. a very revealing number, i'm surprised not to surprise.

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the spikeses have been so severe, that the mayor doesn't only want to shut down schools which have been temporarily redone yet again for tomorrow, but businesses or dining, the governors are moving that far, but keeping a close eye on it. david lee miller with the very latest. david lee. reporter: neil, a few moments ago mayor de blasio wrapped up the daily briefing, quoting him now, we're at crucial moment in the city. the mayor was referring to the nine coronavirus hot spots that as you mentioned are located in brooklyn and queens, two of the outer borrows. in all those areas which are identified by zip codes the infection rate spiked past 3% for seven consecutive days. in some neighborhoods it has more than doubled that threshold. the question now, what to do about it? starting today all schools in the affected areas are closed for at least two weeks. the mayor is calling for the

closure of all non-essential businesses in these nine zip codes. but any shutdown will require the approval of governor andrew cuomo who so far has not given the green light. cuomo expressed doubt that the businesses are contributing to the spike. he questions effectiveness identifying hot spots by zip codes. the conflicting messages from the governor and mayor left many new yorkers frustrated and angry. the mayor says he is waiting for guidance from the state. >> the plan presented is the way to address this the state can modify it as they see fit. the important thing is to come to decision quickly so we can get morning. we're prepared to implement tomorrow morning in the nine zip codes once we have sign-off from the state. reporter: in addition to the nine zip codes the mayor is talking about, he also says that there are 13 sip codes on a watch list because of an

increasing rate of infection from the coronavirus. the mayor says, those communities in his words, still have time to turn things around. he said they must take the proper precautions such as social distancing as well as wearing masks. neil? neil: david lee miller, thank you very much, my friend. all of this in a backdrop environment has new york rents collapsing on average 10%. a record number of vacant apartments. that prompted talk new york city itself already dropped dead and it is in a world of hurt, something that jerry seinfeld, comedian no less, found seriously annoying. neil: year 22 that has look at this. >> is new york dead? bipartisan support is going after google or alphabet. >> are you asking me? >> i'm asking you. it seems to have garnered a >> when you were a kid kicking numbers of republican and over the anthill that just happened to us. they just kicked over the whole democrats, where all of this goes with charlie gasparino. anthill. what dot ants do? >> it is a pylon, both have the all right. hand me the next crumb, let's republicans and democrats with remedies, here's what we know, get back to work. neil: jerry is very confident this is going to be a key week for the enforcement crackdown that the city will get back to work. that is bipartisan in congress

that it is not dead forever as and the white house from d.o.j. one fellow comedian put it. antitrust division, the peter calico joinses me former enforcement on big tech, this week i think it is coming to a mta chairman, big developer, port authority commissioner, earlier days the former head or early next week, it is "new york post" owner, on and definitely coming down the pike, the d.o.j. case against google, on. pete, thank you for coming. big antitrust has been in the who is right, jerry seinfeld, works for a year heading by the the city can and will come back, with all the others, latest attorney general william barr in closures it is just a matter of time before it can come back. >> the answer is you're both right. the head of the antitrust if you let it go on for two or division is conflicted out, that is coming down the pike, we hear three or four years you might the case could come against not recover but i always google early late this week or early next week, just how remember london which was the far-reaching it goes, i don't know, we don't have good, i capital of the british empire don't think anyone has good for 300 years, when that empire went away london is still the insight into that, other than financial center of the earth now but that doesn't mean we that it could be as far-reaching can't help ourselves. as all surge and limited and we have to help ourselves. and transit is the most just add surge, we will have to see depended on how far-reachi important issue on the agenda. neil: you know, one of the things that has come up with far-reaching, it will trade off if it's more far-reaching.

these latest potential closures secondarily, the house of representatives obviously run by that could spread beyond these democrats and representative vulnerable zip codes that could be another dozen or so around the queens, brooklyn area, that cicilline is on top of this, people are going to be gun-shy. writing its report on all the big tech firms and whether the big tech firms of these power they are not going to go out and antitrust laws, interesting even if they're in an area where to note, that report initially they can do so. it will become a self-fulfilling people thought it would be a bipartisan report, is now prophecy and shut the whole city breaking down into very partisan down again. what do you think? in terms of remedies, the >> i think it doesn't help. covid is a serious disease but republicans do not want to go as it is not something that we have far as the democrats, it not dealt with and dealt with in probably wants to break up the big tech firms, here is the a relatively good way. thing that we know from my sources inside google, facebook, we're improving in all spheres apple, amazon, microsoft come what we need to do to make people healthy. and, i know this is a thing that all the big tech firms, what people don't like to hear but they're worried about is if the democrats, this is coming from the fatality rate of 200,000 is big tech which is considered not nothing but on a country of liberal, if the democrats controlled the senate and if joe 320 million, it's a small, small piece. biden beats donald trump, they are fearing the worst that could and it is -- happen to the industry in terms neil: are you saying the president is handling this okay?

a lot of people have been of breakups, that would automatically make elizabeth criticizing the handling of his own virus once he got tested warren if she could be the positive for it, taking the mask off, south lawn, portico treasury secretary or she could be a ranking member of the senate that goes after them and she has expressed very strong yesterday, what do you think of how he is handling this? >> well i think his views about breaking up many of administration is doing a good these companies, that is one of the worries of all the things job. what he does is what he is going you have to worry about with the to do and doing it for 40 years the same way. so that i don't pay attention to that but his administration has done a very good job and have biden presidency and the democrats taking the senate which is high taxes on those who invest in stocks and corporate kept the spread from being much taxes, there could be a breakup of big tech at least if you take worse than it should be. 300 million people we have in this country. it's a large country. the language of the democrats that are in leadership position, if you take them seriously and representative cicilline, he is neil: do you think things should a house member, he spoke about change? you're a pretty astute businessman in your own right. breaking these companies up, very anti-big tech and he will have a kindred spirit in given the fact that some at the elizabeth warren and many others white house tested positive for the virus. so many at the big event, in the senate if the democrats announced judge barrett to the take control. that is the latest, i think we nomination of the supreme court, at the end of september. that they have got to lock

things down a little bit better. everyone has to wear masks. will know more in a couple of days on where all of this is they have to adhere to the going. back to you. neil: like they do with at&t, distancing provisions? that things have got to change for shareholders, you did okay, at the white house, first of all should they and do you think the president will? if you have at&t and stakes in >> well, i won't comment from the other spinoffs, you never know how it works out. >> long-term. the medical point of view but >> yes. yeah, they should wear masks if nothing else to set an example. >> you are too young, during the reagan administration i don't think you were born. that it's a serious disease and >> i was born then, you were we need to do all we can do to stem it. and if wearing masks helps it it nine years old back then. is a small price to pay. neil: that is fine, always good having you, charlie gasparino, neil: you know, knowing and harkening back to your days the best in the business. we get some confusing reports heading, you know the port authority of new york and with state and travel and new jersey you probably know a leisure and hospitality industry lot of people are very leery of and news of disney laying off taking public transit not only all these workers, thousands of for the real worries but the uptick in crime in new york. them and then reports that disney is seen a surge in they just don't feel safe and traffic, it might be a small world but it's a very confusing what do you, what do you tell them? this is unique to urban areas one, see what i did a small world, confusing world, more particularly so in new york city

but people are now, when they after this. can avoid it they will. looking at the numbers, peter, ♪ they are. what do you make of it? >> i tell you why your numbers are correct. i have a building with a garage. there are 3,000 people in the building which only 200 come but garage is full. it is because nobody is taking public transit. and, closing subways at night has done a great thing for cleaning and sanitizing but it i knew about the tremors. falls back to the old problem of but when i started seeing things, i didn't know what was happening... crime. crime always knocked us out in so i kept it in. the 70s in the transit system. he started believing things that weren't true. i knew something was wrong... neil: you know, i'm wondering as but i didn't say a word. we get closer to the election four weeks from today, peter, during the course of their disease around 50% of people with parkinson's looking at the polls, you know, may experience hallucinations or delusions. they are just snapshots in time. but now, doctors are prescribing nuplazid. i know the president calls them fake, a lot of others don't pay the only fda approved medicine... proven to significantly reduce attention. hallucinations and delusions related to parkinson's. the trend doesn't certainly

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off a lot of people and all of that is very true but a recent surge in activity and maybe a turnaround could be in the mix, jacqui d'angelo following all of that. >> good afternoon, a picture of mickey does not make you smile i don't know what will. walt disney has been in a lot of trouble as a result of the pandemic, obviously tourism has slowed in people scared to be in crowds and visit the parks even as they reopen but some of that seems to be dissipating at the moment, on monday a website that tracks the foot traffic at the different parks called inside the magic flagged the increase foot traffic that they are seen at walt disney world in florida, we tend to rise higher than you actually think, this morning if you wanted to ride the seven doordwarf train you had a 60 mie wait, animal kingdom both rides were around in our way, also

remember these times can be a little more exaggerated because there's new roles for the parks, limit on capacity, social distancing, reducing crowds while the counterintuitive for a business like this is the goal right now, stand to reason that things will not move as quickly, let's put in a broader context, this is about consumer spending, on the back of the new study that was released showing that u.s. travel spends up since memorial day, the summer saw uptake in airline, hotel, rental car booking while over law spend on travel and entertainment is moving in the right direction, it is down substantially year over year so keep that in mind we are not out of the woods but disney has had a rough time, the losses for the in person in park experience and we are balanced out a little bit by the disney+ stay-at-home internal experience and that is because consumption change so much, the company laying off 28000 employees across the parks globally as a result of a pandemic in florida

has been able to reopen for example, california has not, you notice you have one red state and one blue state and different policies dictating how quickly this can happen but a lot of folks want to get back to work and get back to the park. neil: very interesting, thank you for that, jacqui deangelis, i want to talk to jared about this, the chief strategist, i want to get your sense of the travel industry itself and on maybe some industry relief for the airlines, jared, first on what jacqui just reported, that things are still tough but maybe not as tough as we thought were the possibility of a turnaround is there, what do you think. >> i've been studying different numbers and looking at different outlets, one thing i've seen first of all as the summer travel season is being pushed back because of remote work and everybody, all of our ppo and our schedule vacations went out the window, the summer vacation season is getting extended,

travel activity is down 70% in the data is still lumpy and unpredictable, there are areas of good stuff, beaches, travel to certain areas, maybe a little bit more right-leaning and have a little bit more open borders and low restrictions on covid, those of been doing well, airline travel is a big struggle neil: happy to say he is here to tell us about it. for people, being stuck inside a peter good to see you. how are you feeling? >> it has been quite a road as you know. i was sick from march through tube for a couple of hours is mid-june a three-month bought not anybody's idea of fun and when you have to wear a mask it with covid that was substantial. makes it less attractive, i do what ended up happening is, i'm now being called one of the not think it's all gone, i'm seeing bright spots, i'm not ready to jump into trouble just covid long haulers. yet and i think the airlines while i'm now eight months into this, i'm still suffering quite have got to the work cut out for a bit with residual damage, them in terms of getting on track and controlling cash. having had incredibly huge four neil: southwest is the latest, level infusion on my neck as a to think you can avoid a year or result of virus. this is important to people need more thanks to the pay cuts but to take note this is not a joke. it is a beast. for only so long, that's when neil: it was just a warning the stimulus comes in and coming from peter tuckman, an whether it will include airline

iconic figure on the floor of relief, if we don't get the stimulus, jerome powell sent a signal that it could be a the new york stock exchange. problem. do you agree? you have seen more of his >> 100%, a couple of things pictures with markets up and southwest, the union's degreed down than wall street history. he has the photo againic look. discussion but not to concessions just yet, they are still working through that. he is in a world of hurt not just that, culturally times like these can damage their contracting the virus. he has complicates, they are rare, an exception to the general rule but he just had a multilateral cultural, that warning for the president, sir, could have far reaching just be careful. don't get ahead of yourself on ramifications. a lot of the airline, and the this. a doctor joins us now. unions are looking to the government and by the way this she is an infectious disease is happening with all the society of america specialist, airlines saying we need money, we need money quick, i believe firmly if there is an much, much more. he, i apologize. intervention, it is kind of hard to stop the cash flow, you have one of the things, doctor, you brought up in the past, you don't want to get too giddy or such an expensive industry and hard to shut the spigot often pessimistic day by day. have contracts itself like that it's very difficult to back out an older gentleman telling an of, they needed deal and i do older gentleman, you have got to not know when that will come be careful. especially given the election what do you think? >> this is something that each and all of the variables are.

person recovers at their own pace. if you've been older, with comorbid conditions you have neil: thank you very, very much. been hospitalized this will not nancy pelosi and steven mnuchin optimistic that they can get something done. always allow you to bounce back they are talking at least. at the pace you were on beforehand. we have to take some time to see what residual issues the president has. hopefully goes back to his turns out, it's you. doing your thing. baseline. too early to say that for sure, to declare victory. he was a moderate case. dreaming dreams. building new worlds. he required hospitalization and medical treatment and oxygen. it's why we built our workspace technology. neil: the president wants to try to resume his schedule. to help you do your best work he is still eager for the and to see what you can become. you're made for bigger things. october 15th debate eight days from now, eight or nine days. do you think he would be up to that, up for that? >> it is hard to know without being in the room with him and talking to him and seeing where he is based on his baseline and what other people, family members and friends think about . . how well he is functioning. a debate is something that is intellectually challenging and very strenuous. it will be something they have sleep stories. to make a day-by-day decision

on, to see how close to the baseline he goes. malcolm! the most inspiring minds. if he is at the optimal the most compelling stories. all in one place. performance or not. audible. there is something i would think i wouldn't be surprised if they end up postponing it, he wants to go through it. but something you have to talk to his doctor about where he actually sits on that curve of recovery. neil: did you read any significance, doctor, certainly the media pounced on the president for doing so taking off the mask, waving to supporters down below from the truman balcony. good idea, bad idea, what? >> i know photographers were taking pictures close by. if you're an i can infectious patients still acute with the coronavirus you shouldn't take off your mask around other people. there was a photographer up there from some of the pictures i've seen. that is probably not a good idea to exposure other people. in general we need to model good behavior regarding this virus.

we still need to take it very seriously. i still think face coverings are one common sense simple way we keep cases from occurring. i think it is important for leaders, leaders who have put together task force panels that say we need to wear face coverings, to follow the same advice on face coverings they expect the american public to. neil: we're getting new the fall and wtoo? >> i think it will intensify in the winter. people can't do so much outdoors in many parts of the country. they will be indoors. the transmission intensifies indoors. we have to be prepared for more cases. continue to be vigilant. can't allow cases start to tick up not to take action. we still have to do the basics, testing, tracing isolating we've had a hard problem doing during most of the time during the pandemic. neil: all right. doctor, thank you very, very much. good seeing you again. all wise words we should consider. up to the points we were bringing up with the good doctor

here. i told you yesterday regal cinemas going out of business likely given the final catalyst was pushing back the james bond latest installment. it will be out next april. was supposed to be last april you might have heard. they were trying to reschedule for november. that is pushed off to april. a number of others, word from warner brothers are similarly pushing back movies, batman, matrix four, "shazam" 2, doom, pushed back at least a year. that is not good for an industry hoping for a turnaround. it is not happening. more after this. so you're a small business, neil: we're getting word from boeing right now it is slashing its forecast for a lot of new aircraft. he it says the pandemic could affect sales for a decade or more. wow. now to charles payne. hey, charles. charles: good afternoon,

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♪. neil: real estate seems to be coming back in a lot of areas across the country right now. the one part of the economy just hopping but particularly interest in wanting to be a realtor because it is. grady trimble in chicago with more on that. what's going on? reporter: hey, neil. we know there is increased demand of houses outside downtown areas in suburbs. there is also a surge in interest to become the person who sells those houses. a lot of people who have left their job and laid off or furloughed, they're turning to real estate to have a second career. in chicago, enrollment in

realtor classes in august peaked up 154% compared to a year ago. all summer long it has been up 71%. this is partly because of that interest from people who have been furloughed or laid off. nationally we're seeing a similar trend although it is not quite as dramatic. the national association of realtors has seen membership climbing between 10,000 and 15,000 people per month after they lost members when the pandemic first hit in the lockdowns were in place in march and april. we talked to a new realtor. he lost his job in recruiting several months ago. sew said there is no time like the present and he tells us why he decided to go into real estate now. >> the harder you work the more you make, then the better you do sort of business. so for myself i'm definitely going to work as much as i can, make phone calls, do open houses

meet the people, spread the word as much as possible and take advantage of that. reporter: it is not uncommon for there to be renewed interest in real estate during times of economic downturns with the exception of the 2008 housing crisis. for some people it is supplemental income. for some people they're going in full time, a new job for them. a new career. grady, thank you very, very much. before you go, quick up date on the president, right now white house physician says the president's vital since, physical exam remains stable overall. he continues to do, quoting here. extremely well. more after this. ♪.

♪. neil: we got were just a few minutes ago that all is well with the president, kayleigh mcenany passing along an update on the president's condition and test that he's doing very, very well. in progressing along very, very well. now the word that the vice president is doing the same, a lot of scrutiny because many people have been arguing that given his proximity too so many people including the president known to contracted the virus, he himself is doing well and repeatedly tested negative, this

coming from his position that the vice president remained healthy without any covid-19 symptoms and has continued to have covid-19 related test, the vice president was traveling tuesday afternoon, wednesday and thursday, remained at his residence on friday, saturday and sunday, all of that out of an abundance of caution, the vice president is not a close contact with any of the end individuals that tested positive for covid-19, this is the clearest indication that he has essentially been medically cleared for this upcoming vice presidential debate tomorrow in salt lake city. one thing we should stimulate, the ticket percussion nonetheless separating the two with plexiglass, normally would be 6 feet, we are told it will be 12 feet. they are not forgetting any of that, hillary vaughn with the preparations for the big debate, more than 24 hours away. >> the changes were put in place after the first presidential debate in the covid outbreak

that followed from that, concern about even the safety of this debate happening but the changes that were made over 12 feet apart between the two candidates and plexiglass divider between them presuming that that makes it safe and okay and both campaigns have agreed that they are comfortable with that so the debate will move forward tomorrow night, those candidates have been holding mock debates preparing for this debate, former mayor pete buttigieg has been playing vice president mike pence and cornett attorney general pam bondi has been playing harris and mock debates. harris has been here for days on the ground in utah with the center debate prep, while she's promised to prosecute the case against president trump, now that trump is battling coronavirus her team is planning on stopping some of their attacks to make them less personal. pete buttigieg is helping harris

scrappers ingersoll more substandard attacks on the issues but pete buttigieg saying today that she will not be fact checking mike pence play-by-play. >> he has an ability to deliver lines with a high degree of confidence, whether they are true or not, but of course saying something with a straight face does not make it true and what's would be really important for americans to see the difference. >> mike pence has been ripping up research on his candidate, he has been redoing mounds of material on harris, part of a strategy to get through to voters for the white house is putting harris' record on display including the time that she spent as california attorney general. >> we felt very well-connected political figures all well-known covered in the newspapers of the time. she was a political prosecutor, political ag, probably the most political in the country. >> after the debate we are learning vice president mike

pence will be traveling to indianapolis, indiana, his home state to cast his ballot in the general election in the state early voting. neil: hillary vaughn thank you very, very much. don't forget the coverage of that debate kicks off at 8:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow on the debate itself in reaction from all of our fox heavyweights on this as well as some surprising guest, the only place that you could get not only that debate but the market impact, remember how crazy features were acting, is a one-two punch to get here again on fox business, 8:00 p.m. tomorrow, ahead of that bill mcgurn in today's wall street journal about not underestimating mike pence. he is a solid debater in a solid individual and he might surprise some folks, will join this right now, a lot of people are so focused on kamala harris that we lost sight of the vice president that we already have, you go on to say he's a pretty good debater but once you get into what we might be missing.

>> first of all, the contacts, a lot of people didn't like last week's debate and they thought that both sides would indulge in insults, the president interrupted joe biden, joe biden interrupted him, they called each other names, the president said joe was not smart, joe said that the president was a racist, clown and so forth, mike pence is the opposite of all of that, he is very calm and understated, people should not underestimate that, he's been through this before, he went up against tim kaine who came at him like donald trump when joe biden, very aggressive interrupting in the clear consensus was that mike pence prevailed with his hoosier understatement and keeping his cool, i expected to do more or less the same thing, if he could do tough too, i

expect kamala harris will come out very strong as a former prosecutor, try to get him on the ropes the way that she did joe biden and the first democratic debate but she was not so good when joe biden started to fight back and ask questions of her so we will see. neil: you touched on it, how much is the president testing positive of the virus change the dynamic in democrat to polar punches, i guess they resume punching, i'm just curious what you see you tomorrow night. >> i think you are right i don't expect people to polar punches along but at 30 change the dynamic of the debate because you have donald trump in his 70s overweight and has covid and he's in a high risk group even though he's getting the best of care, joe biden would be 78 if he won when he's inaugurated, he is given some time and maybe he's losing his mental facilities complete

control, i think the way is changing, americans watching this are not just watching a vice presidential sideshow, they may be saying to themselves, when i pulled the lever in november for the president, am i really voting for one of these two people as president, as something happens, mortality is really hang it over this debate. neil: you are very right about that, the highest rated vp to date is sarah palin at the time when joe biden and i'm just wondering whether this surpasses that. >> i doubt it, i think you might have similar interest but remember that race, it was obviously a lot more interesting than the john mccain barack obama debate was going to be, there was just so much interest, oddly enough, joe biden was very

focused and that debate he showed off his knowledge and depth especially in foreign affairs, but people say sarah palin held her own charm, i think we'll get a lot of interest probably to the not degree of overshadowing the debate because the first one was so spectacular itself and i think people will tune in the next time to see if they go out in the same way. neil: i think you're right about that, always good catching up. bill mcgurn. meanwhile kayleigh mcenany was speaking about the president relieved today, she herself tested positive for the virus and said the president is doing okay, take a look at this. >> there is no way to say exactly where this originated, similar of the people who tested positive were at the event that

many of the individuals interacted on a daily basis. certainly when it comes to white house staff, there is no way to put a pinpoint on it. neil: i apologize from that was far from clear, that is when she was addressing with stuart varney the notion of the super spreading event which was at the rose garden ceremony that introduced judge. to the world to replace ruth bader ginsburg and that she was