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>> do you have a "strange inheritance" story you'd like to share with us? we'd love to hear it! send me an e-mail, or go to our website -- strangeinheritance.com. lllllllls tomorrow. "lou dobbs tonight" starts now. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. judge amy coney barretted today enduring more than seven hours of questioning by the senate judiciary committee, and she still has a few more hours to go. president trump's supreme court nominee has shown remarkable recall, poise and incredible talent and intelligence. while fielding questions from the radical dems on a number of important legal issues including health care, the second amendment, abortion rights, judge barrett has also shown tremendous composure having to listen to the radical dems soars
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and often 'em -- coarse and often embarrassing questions. they see the supreme court and, indeed, the entire federal judiciary as policymakers rather than neutral arbiters of the law. judge barrett made the clash between the radical dems and republicans all the clearer. this is her view of the court and a role of judges to uphold the law as written. >> judges can't just wake up one day and say i have an awe agenda, i like guns, i hate guns, i like abortion, i hate abortion, and walk in like a row y'all queen and impose, you know, their will on the world. i interpret the constitution as a law that i interpret text as text, and i understand it to have the meaning that it had at the time people ratified it. so that meaning doesn't change over time, and it's not up to me to update it or infuse my own
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policy views into it. lou: the dems today also exposing their ang sue few about joe biden -- anxiety i think about joe biden's chances next month against president trump. so much so, senator patrick leahy asked -- [audio difficulty] from any decisions the supreme court may be called upon to, well, to decide about the outcome of the election. judge barrett provided this astute response. >> i recently read a description by justice ginsburg of the process that supreme court justices go through in deciding whether to recuse. and it involves not only reading the statute, looking at the precedent, consulting counsel if necessary, but the crucial last step is that while it is always the decision of an individual justice, it always happens after consultation with the full
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court. so i can't offer an opinion on recusal without short circuiting that entire process. lou: the senate judiciary dems making it clear at every turn why they are considered members of the party of hate. judge barrett outwitted the radical dems. she proved she is a worthy member of the high court. and for more on today's hearing, we turn to fox business' hillary vaughn in washington. hillary. >> reporter: hi, lou. well, chairman lindsey graham really called democrats out on what he says is a double standard because he says democrats openly embrace nominees who have held progressive political positions in the past but do not sound the alarm that they may be unbiased if nominated to the supreme court, but they do not give conservative nominees the same benefit of the doubt. >> is it okay to be religiously conservative? is it okay to be pro-life in
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your personal life? it clearly is okay to be progressive and be pro-choice and seek a seat on the supreme court. i think resoundingly, yes. and here's why your nomination is so important to me. in my world, to be a young conservative woman is not an easy path to take. we have two women on this committee. they can talk about it better than i. so i want to thank president trump for choosing you. >> reporter: senate democrats zeroed in on comments that judge barrett made in 2017 when she was a law professor at the university of minnesota where she disagreed with chief justice john roberts' legal judgment that he used to uphold obamacare in 2012 saying it's proof that judge barrett has politicalling bias that would sway her opinion in any case related to the affordable care act. but judge barrett under oath today told her concerned critics this, quote: i am not here on a mission to destroy the aca. >> your concern is that because
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i critiqued the statutory reasoning that i'm hostile to the aca and that because i'm hostile to the aca, that i would decide a case a particular way, and i assure you that i am not. to assume that because i critiqued the interpretation of the mandate or the phrase established by a state means that on the entirely different question of severability i would reach a particular result just assumes that i'm hostile, and that's not the case. i apply the law, i follow the law. you make the policy. >> reporter: the question of court packing has bubbled up in this hearing after democrats tried to characterize filling a legitimate supreme court vacancy as court packing. republicans criticized their party nominee, democratic nominee joe biden, for refusing to rebuke the idea if he were prime minister. >> we've got joe biden now as a presidential candidate who's refusing to say whether he would
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do it. there's a reason he's not saying whether he would do it. there's only one reason why you refuse to answer that question, and it's you're wanting to be able to do it, but you don't want to take the heat for the fact that you're thinking about doing it right now. >> reporter: judge barrett has endured over eight hours of questioning from 20 senators, and she's done it all without any notes. at one point senator cornyn asked her to hold up a note pad sitting in front of her to show what she is using to prepare for the hearing today, and the note pad was completely blank with nothing on it. really telling of how prepared and how knowledgeable she is and able to handle these questions. the hearing continues, and it's expected to go until 9 p.m. tonight. lou? lou: hillary vaughn, thank you very much. we'll be talking about all of this and much more tonight throughout the broadcast with "just the news" editor-in-chief john solomon, congressman deafen nuñes and historian victor davis
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hanson. president trump leaving for another rally in johnstown, pennsylvania. the most recent polling shows the president about 2 points off of joe biden's lead. president trump's visit to pennsylvania comes just a day after he returned to the campaign trail with a big rally held in central florida. the president, having recovered from his bout with the china virus, says he's feeling better than ever. >> one thing with me, the nice part, i went through it. now they say i'm immune, i can -- you know, i feel so powerful, i'll walk into that audience -- [cheers and applause] i'll walk in there, i'll kiss everyone in that audience. there is nothing -- i don't have to be locked up in my basement, and i wouldn't allow that to happen anyway. i wouldn't allow that to happen. when you're the president, you can't lock yourself in a basement and say i'm not going to bother with the world. you've got to get out, and it's race key. it's risky, but you've got to get out. lou the president's already-busy
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week of campaigning is now even busier. he's in iowa tomorrow. he'll be in north carolina thursday. and his campaign adding new stops in florida and georgia for friday. five states in phi i days -- five days for this in.com national president of the united states. the radical dems' nominee, joe biden, is once again playing follow the leader. he's making two campaign stops himself in florida today. biden talked with an audience of about, let's see, let me count them up, ten community leaders at a senior city in poem brock pines. there were more members of the press, about two dozen, than there were supporters in -- is ten a crowd? we'll call it a crowd. to bolster his lackluster campaign events, biden's handlers are encouraging him to take part in a few pre-approved -- now, mind you,
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pre-approved -- interviews with local, only local, tv stations. during one of those interviews, biden continued to dodge an answer on whether he will, indeed, pack the supreme court if he's elected with more liberal justices. here is his, well, here is his aversion. >> court packing's going on now. never before when an election has already begun and millions of votes already cast has there ever been a supreme court nominee was put forward. i'm not a fan of court packing, but i'm not -- i don't want to get off on that whole issue. i want to keep focused. the president would love nothing better than to fight about whether or not i would, in fact, pack the court or not pack the court. focus is why is he doing what he's doing now. that's the court packing the public should be focused on. lou: well, he should just answer it, don't you think? a president who doesn't think
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the american people are worthy of answers as he has said, a vice president, a former vice president who thinks for some reason that a straight answer is something he should avoid at all costs, it's remarkable. but that is the campaign he is, he is pursuing. the corporate left-wing national media says biden is not a fan of the court packing is an outright denial that he wants to pack the court. they are ignoring that this is the very same joe biden who said voters don't deserve to know whether he would pack the supreme court. and they're unworthy too. well, two big developments today in the race for a china virus cure, and they are setbacks. johnson & johnson pausing its china virus vaccine trialed today. eli lilly pausing, as they put it, their trial for a mono
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chronal antibody treatment. one of the volunteers in the phase three trial got suck. the says -- got sick. eli lilly's phase three trial was halted because of unknown safety concerns. the therapeutic is backed by president trump's operation warp speed. today's news had an effect on wall street. stocks moving down, moderately. the dow jones industrials fell 158 points, the s&p lost 22, the nasdaq down 12. volume on the big board, 3.7 billion shares. crude oil finishing at $40.17 a barrel. and a remind or to listen to my reports three times a day on the say almost radio network. coming up next, judge amy coney barrett says personal opinions should never influence anyone's interpretation of the law. >> the black robe shows that justice is blind. we all dress the same, and i
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think it shows that once we put it on, we are standing united symbolically, speaking in the name of the law and not speaking for ourselves as individuals. lou: congressman devin nuñes, historian victor davis hanson join us with more on judge barrett's confirmation hearing. and also ahead, new obamagate documents ordered by the president declassified and released, they uncover more evidence of deep state corruption. "just the news" editor-in-chief john solomon joins me next. and thanks to everyone who's made my new book a national bestseller. "the trump century: how our president changed the course of history forever," it's available at loudobbsshop.com. loudobbsshop.com, amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com, bookstores everywhere. stay with us, we'll be right i can't believe it. what? that our new house is haunted by casper the friendly ghost?
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bounce forward, with comcast business. ♪ lou: well, the radical dem on the senate su judiciary committee -- senate judiciary committee today venal, vile and crude as they attacked president trump primarily and ini subtled -- insulted judge amy coney barrett today. meanwhile, judge barrett showed
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her deep understanding of the rule of law and her tremendous poise. watch her exchange here with senator john cornyn. >> now, most of us have multiple notebooks and notes and books and things like that in front of us. can you hold up what you've been referring to in answering our questions? is there anything on it? >> the letterhead that says united states senate. >> that's impressive. lou: citing cases, extraordinary command of the law. i've never seen a supreme court justice nominee go through this process, go through this process without notes. she is truly impressive. impressive is the "lou dobbs tonight" word of the day as well. it means evoking admiration through size, quality or skill, and we are in deep admiration of
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this truly impressive jurist. well, breaking news now, senators ron johnson and chuck grassley have received 24 pages of text messages two months after they subpoenaed the fbi, two months. these newly-released texts show then-fbi deputy director andrew mccabe and then-fbi attorney lisa page talking about media reports unfavorable to donald trump. one text exchange shows that page forwarded mccaulk a law fair article -- mccabe a law fair article questioning whether trump was a russian agent. a newly-declassified fbi spread sheet shows the fbied had very little reason to ever believe christopher steele would be a credible source for anything, yet they chose to use him any and his phony dossier. that spread sheet was released, with redactions, but it shows how the fbi couldn't corroborate any of the dossier's claims and used their own media leaks to
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try to substantiate and build the credibility of their claims of trump-russia collusion. you know, the idea put forward by one hillary clinton. joining us now is "just the news" editor-in-chief john solomon, author of "fallout: nuclear bribes, russian spies and the washington lies that enriched the clinton and biden dynasties." this is, first, it's great to have you with us, john. >> thank you, lou. lou: this is, i think, a fascinating story as we, as we see there's just basically no foundation of any kind. it was pure pretext and pretense on the part of the fbi primarily to give any credence to this steele dossier. >> yeah, absolutely. first off, kudos to the president. he said last week he was going to get this stuff out if he had to do it himself, and he is. and i can tell you tonight there's going to be another release of documents in the next
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24 hours related to bruce ohr's interviews with the fbi when they -- what they were pumping him for, for information to go around the ban that they had on christopher steele when they fired him. so we're going to get that information soon as well, and that's one of the stories that was on our list that we talked about, lou. lou: good. >> this document tonight is so important, the one we're talking about here. it's a spread sheet that the analysts in the fbi went through, and they evaluated the accuracy or lack thereof of every sentence of the steele dossier. and what did they find? it was a big, giant zero. almost no intelligence in the files of the u.s. government could verify anything that he was claiming. it found numerous errors, people were not in the places they said, misspellings of names. it goes on and on. and all they were left with, all they could do to try to give some sense of credulity to a very bad document was they would cite things like a put nick article, which is a -- sputnik article, which is a russian
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propaganda agency, the sister of a democratic operative, that's how desperate they were to find anything to hang a shingle on. a what the document shows they knew at the fbi in the fall of 2016 that the steele dossier was garbage, and that means when comey and mccabe allowed that fisa warrant to go through, they did so with the intention to mislead the federal courts. lou: the case for charges against members of the fbi and the scwus discuss department for that matter are building by the day as these documents are released by this administration at the order of president trump. >> that's right. lou: your sense of the weight of these and the consequence. potentially. >> i think -- yeah, listen, i think every day that goes by the proof that this was a knowing and willful act by the fb irk, that it wasn't just blundering keystone cops who accidentally
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screwed up a fisa warrant, but that there was an intention to create a false narrative and sustain it before congress and the fisa court is becoming clearer every day, and everybody knew it. the analysts knew it. a couple weeks ago we got those documents showing analysts were thinking of buying liability insurance? you now know why. they were worried about getting sued. you now see how bad it was in the fbi, and i suspect the next few documents that get declassified will make the victory even more complete. there's no doubt criminal activity occurred. there was a criminal conspiracy to defraud the fisa court and the american public and the congress, and these documents make that clear. lou: and the clinton foundation, now we learn from a george w. bush-appointed federal judge that he he wants to see this go
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forward, this case against the foundation. >> right. lou: your thoughts about its import and how significant. >> well, a couple years ago mark meadows when he was still a congressman held a hearing in congress, and he brought these two whistleblowers in. the democrats made a follow-through of it, much like they did -- folly of it. but what this court's ruling shows is that the merits of the case, those whistleblowers found evidence that was convincing enough for a u.s. judge to say we're proceeding forward. the irs, believe it or not, tried to throw out the case, and the judge said, nope, we're proceeding. there's enough evidence here to go to the next level of discovery. i think if the court digs far enough and hard enough, it's going to find the sortover of miss conduct that i've been reporting on and others have been reporting on at the clinton foundation for a very long time. lou: absolutely. still far more questions than
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answers as to the clinton foundation and the activities of the secretary of state going back to uranium one. maybe we're on the precipice of answers. we will hope so. it's interesting, a poll in justthenews.com showing tremendous tremendous support, tremendous support for the president and his refusal to entertain lockdowns. >> it's remarkable. it shows once again the president has great instincts. a9 lot of times he gets criticized early, and the rest of the media and politicians catch up to it. but the president's instinct that americans didn't want their economy to be shut down, their lives to be shut down, they want a way to fight this virus comes through in this poll. 61% of likely voters including 70% of independents say they don't want any more shutdowns. they don't want the democratic approach to covid-19, they want the one that president trump has laid out. and you know why. if you're well to do, you can
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survive a shutdown. if you're a father with two jobs trying to make ends meet, you can't afford for your job to go away, and that's what this poll shows. the president's sympathy for those people is clearly recognized by the voters, and that is don't shut it down. there's a way to fight this virus without bringing america to a halt. lou: john solomon, as always, good to see you. thanks so much, john. up next, more on the american public's right to know about the deep state and radical dems' plot to overthrow president trump. we'll be joined by congressman devin nuñes. he's with us right after these quick messages. please stay with us. please stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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lou: breaking news now, the supreme t has approved the trump administration's emergency application to stop the census field operations early while litigation continues in the
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ninth circuit court of appeals. the trump administration says the census has to start their data processing phase in order to meet their end-of-year deadline. well, joining us tonight, congressman devin nuñes, ranking member of the house intelligence committee. congressman, great to see you, and i want to get your reaction, first of all, to the documents that are being released by the administration and at the president's order. it looks like there is something of a log jam that's been broken here. your thoughts. >> well, look, i think once it leaked out that we weren't going to see any prosecutions other than the lawyer that was in the middle of crossfire hurricane and the russia hoax, it became clear to a lot of us who have been looking at this, well, fine, if we're not going to get justice, then we at least need to get the story out so everyone knows what was going on. so i'm very pleased this is happening. hopefully, it happens even faster, lou, but i'm looking
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forward to seeing more and more documents, i'll tell you that. lou: well, and john solomon here tonight reporting that at least three more documents will be forthcoming, declassified and being reare elited tomorrow at the order -- released tomorrow at the order of the president. this, these documents, they're going toward validating of what other indications were of both what the justice department was up to, the fbi and the intelligence agencies. christopher steele, there was absolutely no reason for anyone to take seriously that dossier, and yet we know that the head of cia, the head of the fbi all were taking it seriously and peddling it. >> well, the document that came out just in the last few hours that you had john solomon explaining in the last segment -- i was able to listen to it -- lou: right. >> -- that's essentially the
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non-confirmation document. it actually shows the fbi had zero, zero evidence that anything in that dossier was real, but they tried to make it look real. and i remember being told by the highest ranking people at doj and fbi that the, oh, yes, they were really -- they ran through a whole verification process. well, it looks like their verify caution process was a non-- verification process was a nonverification process. those important documents that have come out in the last couple weeks are the two smoking guns. one, the handwritten notes by the former cia director from 2016 that everyone in the obama white house knew that clinton was running an op against the donald trump campaign. that's the first document. the second document is the one that went to one of the lovebirds, peter strzok, saying, look, hillary clinton is running an op against the trump campaign, going to blame the russians. that should have ended the crossfire hurricane, the russia
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hocks. it should have have ended it right after it began. those, to me, are the smoking guns. i want to see prosecutions, and i want to see them as soon as possible, but i'm sure -- i know that from what i understand a lot of these documents weren't in the hands of the u.s. attorney until recently. lou: and until recently, and one hopes that we're seeing the president's direct order produce a greater flow of information now that it's declassified to the american public. do you think that's what's going to happen rather than simply to durham? the american people need to know, as you say, the story behind this outrage, this great crime against the president and the united states. >> yeah. well, with these two documents we don't need a story, we need prosecutions. because it was clear that they defrauded the united states. they conspired to do it. now, look, who was responsible?
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that is another question. who ordered them to do it? that is another question. but i think for sure the people within the dirty cops at doj and the fbi when you spread out to the intelligence that was manipulated by other people within the intelligence agencies and then the laundering of money through the defense department that set up this phony operation in cambridge, it looks like they were colluding with the dirty spy, christopher steele, that was being paid for by the democratic national committee. it's kind of a full circle. so i expect all of those people to be prosecuted. i also expect all the people who lied and covered this up from congress to be prosecuted. and if we do not get prosecutions, we are in a very dark place. this place doesn't want to be, because you will have conservatives and republicans across this country who will not be able to trust the department of justice or our intelligence agencies in this country. lou: and, as you say, we've got
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the story. we have much of the story, but it is critically important we know exactly who ordered this and who, who is responsible for the cover-up that has endured through a four-plus-long, four-year-long-plus effort to overthousand the president of the united states. -- overthrow the president of the united states. it's that straightforward. and we need to find out why people aren't prosecuting when there is just paramount evidence that is crying out for prosecution. the american people are. congressman devin nuñes, as always, we appreciate you being here. thanks. up next, judge amy coney barrett invokes ruth bader ginsburg at today's hearing. we take up what she says with historian victor davis hanson here next. thanks to everyone who's made my new book a national bestseller called "the trump century," available at loudobbsshop.com. bookstores everywhere. stay with us, we'll be right
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♪ ♪ lou: breaking news now, tough times continue for china joe. at last night's rally in florida, president trump called yesterday a rough day for biden. biden had a rough time remembering things like who he ran against back in 2012. >> you may remember i got in trouble when running against the
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senator who is a mormon, the governor, okay? i took him on. anybody -- no one could be questioned. lou: well, actually, he was running against a guy by the name of paul ryan. i think he was thinking of senator mitt romney, i believe. biden calling out -- laugh a half some great irony in this -- biden calling out the memory of americans who say they're better off than four years ago. biden talking about somebody else's memory. listen to this. >> why should people who feel that they are better off today under the trump administration vote for you? >> well, if they think that, they probably shouldn't. they think -- 54% of people are better off than they were under our administration. their memory not very good,
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quite frankly. lou: joining us now to take up this extraordinary presidential campaign, victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution, professor i emeritus of classics at california state university, also national review contributor. and his new column out today, we recommend it to you, the fragments of a civilization. victor, great to have you with us, and let's, let's start with this extraordinary democratic nominee who almost daily forgets where this is, who lapses into one -- they like to call them gaffes, but they're just unintel intelligible remarks that are pointless. it is a very difficult thing to watch for anyone. but what about his family, his political party? why, how can they ignore this?
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>> well, they can't, and that's why you haven't seen him, lou, until recently. and he feels that he's truncated a nine month campaign that was aborted anyway because of the lockdown. he put it into three weeks. finally the pressure grew after his debate performance where he thinks he did pretty well that they let him out and cut the leash and said you can go out, and that proved as you pointed out in the last three days an utter disaster. so they're now in kind of a dilemma, do you let him go out more, or do you contrast him being in the basement with donald trump doing three rallies a day just less than a week after he's recovered if covid. and you can't mount a presidency from the basement, and trump is finally getting on the right message on that. i take risks, i'm one with the people who take risks. biden is in husband basement, and his supporters are skype and zoom people, and they're not realistic about who makes the country go, who feeds them, who fuels them. it's a very winning argument. i think your going to see the polls start to close rapidly.
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so they have a bad and a worse choice, and they're taking, they think, the bad choice by unleashing him because they can't think it's sustainable any longer to keep him in the basement. i think he should have stayed in the basement, if i were running that campaign, because he wouldn't be making the gaffes that you listed, and there are more of them, or he would be able to say yes or no when asked about fracking or packing the court or the electoral college or the filibuster, and he can't. he just says i'm not a fan or maybe or sort of. he's really in a straitjacket, or maybe hostage is a better metaphor of the hard left. they won't let him be candid. and we don't know to what degree he feels he's been hijacked or whether he's had a change of heart, you know, damascus, road to damascus moment, i don't know whether he's a leftist now or he thinks he must be a leftist. the point of all this, as you pointed out, is we're only three weeks from a presidential campaign. we've got a person who's running
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who's not in control of his faculties. and even if he were, he's not in a political position to make a statement yes or no about any issue because we could have kind of a coup in the democratic party by the hard left. lou: and the role of the national media, we've all become accustomed, of course, to the fact that the corporate media owned by comcast, at&t, walt disney, are committed to the destruction of the trump presidency. they're not, in point of fact, being held accountable by the public, but it is their, it is their awe vowed -- avowed intent to destroy him and their employees whether they're at cnn or msnbc are doing something to assure that outcome every day. is there any way for this president to break through that barrier of the left-wing
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fourth's candidate, or fifth column as it would be more properly called? >> we've seen the moderate orers feel they have to ask asymmetrical questions, and they come from that media culture you're referencing. we saw that in the first debate, in the vice presidential debate. gotcha for donald trump and when did you stop beating your wife versus the other. he only has two or three outlets because big tech, and as you say, the media control the flow of information. he's got with his rallies, and those are force multipliers. when people look at those images, those enthusiastic, happy people and the sheer throngs of them, then they get enlightened, and they tell people about it, and they want to be a part of it. so that, that's come back on. if he can do two a three a day, he has a huge twitter following, he has social media, he's got some news outlets but not very many. and, you know, i have -- i was shocked early on in the trump administration when there were
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people in the media who just said, jim routen burg at "the new york times," christian am an pure at cnn, they just said from now on we're not going to be neutral because he is such an existential threat, we have to attack hum as we report the news. and that sort of confirmed what we saw at various media adjudicators at the, at harvard university when he they said that 90% of the news had been slanted against trump. at least they were honest in their bias. they warned us they were going to do that, and they've done it in spades. lou: absolutely. victor davis hanson, we'll continue our conversation with one of the country's best historians. stay with us, we'll be right back. so you're a small business,
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wants in some way to establish a nonlegitimacy claim. this is, these are the most -- it's just grotesquely partisan people i can imagine. we're back now with victor davis hanson and, victor, i have to say i can't think of a time in american history unless we go back to the 1850s when there has been this level of absolute hate and vitriol at, in every day that these two parties are operating. the dems have become truly the party of hate. your thoughts. >> yeah, i think they are. i think a lot of it is self-hatred in a strange way, lou. i think they understand now if harry reid had not ended the senate filibuster and judicial appointments, they wouldn't be in this fix has they just, as they promised, had they taken
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the senate in 2016 or '18. they had two chances, they failed. and to be frank and with no disparagement of the late ruth bader ginsburg, when most people are 83 years old and in ill health and their party is in a position of party, you step down. and she had that opportunity in 2015 before the republicans, you know, got back the senate. in 2014, i should say. lou: right. >> she could have done that, and they feel they blew that. you know, i really don't like this idea that amy barrett's got to be divine rather than human. and everybody was referencing her in comparison to ruth bader ginsburg. ruth bader ginsburg, with all due respect, was a controversial justice. she gave an interview to the new yorker saying she didn't understand what the objections to abortion were when we were, quote-unquote, aborting the right people. and she said that the constitution of south africa is something we should look for, for imknewlation.
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she said if donald trump was elected, she thought it would be wise to move to nevada. so people say things, and she said some of the most controversial. the things that grill this -- for them to grill this superb candidate and suggest she doesn't live up to legacy of ruth bader ginsburg i think is a it little bit, you know, hard to swal lee. -- swallow. lou: yeah. i have to say that there isn't a person in that room, there's certainly not -- that has the iq of judge gater, in my opinion -- judge barrett, in my opinion, nor anything approaching her grace and composure under pressure. so i'm actually, i -- [laughter] right now i think highly of her, i admire her greatly. and whatever these vile people, radical dems on that committee do, it is outrageous. senator hirono and her crude questioning of the judge, this is despicable conduct.
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and i have to ask cow this -- ask you this, because you have studied americans for a very long time. >> yeah. lou: i just lived here. the fact of the matter is i is have great faith that the american people will see through this on november 3rd. because if they turn over this country to this kind of people, we are in, i think, an exist telephone, crisis. what do you think -- existential crisis. what do you think? >> yeah, i agree. historically, we saw it in the 1850s, of course, with the knot/south growing divide. we saw it in the '60s, but the difference in the '60s was that the left, its officialdom, whether it was mayors like rich or ard daley in chicago, they were on the side to keep law and order in their a own cities. and the senate, the democratic senate did not stoop to the tactics of the street.
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so you had the '60s radicals, but the democratic party was not in league with them and using their official stations to sort of destroy the government. and what we're seeing at the state and local and mayoral, city councils in portland, seattle, minneapolis, the dos, were actually -- das, we have people who are newsing with the forces of anarchy s and in the senate we're seeing this personal invective that you see on the street voiced by senators. we didn't see that among democrats in the 1960s and '70s. lou: victor davis hanson, always great to have you. thank you so much. a reminder, the book is called "the trump century." it's available at loudobbsshop.com, amazon.com, bookstores everywhere. stay with us, we'll be right back. - why aren't you voting?
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judge barrett, just a blank notepad. i'm almost the same. you see all of this. this is what i have in front of me. there is a lot of writing on it. thanks for joining us. see you tomorrow. good night from sussex maria: good wednesday morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining us, i'm maria bartiromo. it is wednesday, october 14th. 20 days to go, the november election less than three weeks you away and there is another debate on the table. president trump and joe biden headed into the final push of election season now, hitting the campaign trail in key battleground states. we are following it all morning. the origins of the russia probe, new developments show which news organizations the fbi relied honored to corroborate the phony steele dossier. they would leak stories to the news and then use that as evidence to get the warrant.

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