navigate from brick-and-mortar. look at the customer footprint from the digital perspective as well. [closing bell] liz: tim chubb of girard. that is the closing bell. we close out a rough session at the lows. the dow is losing 959 points and dropping. ♪. connell: new limitations on business. stocks plunging throughout the day as coronavirus cases have been spiking across the united states and in europe. that is fueling fears of another round of lockdowns. we're already seeing in europe. i'm connell mcshane. this is "after the bell." the dow down 941 points at the close at the lowest level since july. the s&p and the nasdaq closing at one-month lows. investors indeed are closing watching that situation in europe and wondering what might be coming our way here in the united states. national lockdown set to begin in france on friday. plus germany earlier in the day plans to shut restaurants down,

gyms theaters, for about a month. we're following all of that. we have fox twist business team coverage. grady trimble, in chicago. new restriction being imposed. edward lawrence on the tech hearing in washington. we have to first hear from ashley webster with the market selloff. what a day. ashley: all proving to be a toxic formula for the markets as investors cash in and the vix fear gauge hitting the highest level since mid-july. as you just said, connell, the dow, the s&p, the nasdaq all down 3 1/2% on the day. we saw a little extra selling heading into the bell. maybe that news out of france, adding to germany on a national lockdown. may be a lockdown light. never the less, businesses will be closed, that having impact. shares of hotels, airlines and cruise lines all hit hard as covid fears grow for the

economy. check out the airlines. american down 2 1/2. delta 3 1/2%. southwest four 1/2. so on and so on. jetblue down 6 1/2%. as for the cruise lines who just can't buy a break like the airlines, royal caribbean losing, well, as you can see, down 7.3%. carnival has been down 11% all day. hotels, wynn resorts 4 1/2%. mgm losing more than 4%. all 11 sectors in the s&p fell today. the biggest laggards including energy, technology, and basic materials. we are also, don't forget in the middle of the third quarter season, earnings season. so far of the 206 s&p 500 companies that have reported, about 83% have topped expectations. guess what? boeing reported today revenue fell 29 percent to $14.14 billion but that still

beat expectations and even loss of 1.$39 a share was better than expected. but the aerospace company gave a very pest -- pessimistic outlook weakening aircraft demand for the time to come and aircraft industry won't recover for another full three years. investors turned to safety. they turned to the u.s. dollar. they turned to bonds. the yield on the u.s. treasury falling for the fourth day in a row. meantime oil falling 5% 5% to a five-week low on fears of weakening demand as covid cases rise. we found out there was a bigger build than expected in crude stockpiles. all in all, one of those days. everything headed south, as we head, six days from the election? all sorts of news out there, connell. most of it for the market. too uncertain to buy stocks apparently. connell: exactly. let me go back to the lockdown story with you, ashley for a moment. you mentioned europe.

ashley: yeah. connell: you look at france, rightly so, you could call it kind of a lockdown light. they will let schools be open. not as aggressive as they were in april and may, investor look at that, that is just the start of it. we might have to deal with that in the u.s. at some point as well? ashley: exactly. there are businesses in germany and france that will be closed. some having to close early. regardless it will have an impact on the economy. europe, just like the u.s. has been devastated by the first national lockdown earlier this year. we've seen big riots, upset protests in italy for the last two days. people say we cannot handle another lockdown. we need to work. businesses cannot get through another lockdown. that kind of scenario, that is what's really prompting the market here. the for that that could happen here. we'll be faced with very tough questions again. connell: no doubt. we'll be back to you by the way for some breaking earnings reports in the next few minutes.

ashley, thank you. on that note here, another blow to business. the illinois governor announcing a ban on indoor dining in the city of chicago. he cited rising rates of covid-19 doing so, governor pritzker. who is facing pushback from the chicago mayor lori lightfoot on all of that. it plays on what ashley and i talked about, fears of covid related lockdowns not just in europe but possibly here in the u.s. grady trimble is live in chicago with more. grady. reporter: and connell, it is not just here in chicago. eight of the 11 regions defined in governor pretty kerr's reopening plan, they will face tightened restrictions as well. we're at gene and george getty an iconic here in chicago, but this restaurant and all other restaurants in the city will close dining rooms inside come friday that applies to bars as well. gatherings are limited to 25 people or fewer as part of these new restrictions. the owner her is michelle.

we talked to her a lot throughout the pandemic. you already had to close one of your locations in the suburbs of chicago. you're hanging on by a thread here. you get this news. it has to hurt you, even more than that, the people that work for you? >> it is eviscerating, devastating. this is our livelihood of a family. we hold the livelihoods of all our employees on our shoulders. that is part of our responsibility. when the decision is taken out of our hands how hard you fight, it is frustrating, terrifying sad. reporter: you get the news on friday, you shut down indoor dining. you don't get any help. you're left high and dry. >> no talk of when federal aid will come. there is no direction from the state in terms of how long, how to navigate this. this is what is happening. this is what you have to do. you have to live with it. it us affecting restaurants in different ways than other businesses. it is mentally fuss straighting. reporter: what can people do who love the place whether here in chicago or come here across the

country? >> i would tell people that love restaurants, support them. support local restaurants. employees love you, celebrate your birthdays with you, and give you great service. order dine-in. order care yes-out. support them on social media. buy gift certificates. may not be financial, but a great review from a great experience but support them as much as you can. reporter: connell, you mentioned the pushback from mayor lori lightfoot. she asked the above not to go forward. governor pritzker reiterating he will do it here and other regions across illinois. connell: yep. it is an uncertain environment there and in other places as well. grade i did, thank you. grady trimble there live from chicago. let's move north across the border to wisconsin, a key state for the for the white house also a fight against the virus. we're joined by a small business owner, bibby wilkins who owns three restaurants in the

milwaukee area. the governor reinstituted covid-19 restriction there is. bobby, what is the status of your businesses right now? >> as you could hear, as you know, wisconsin has gone to 25% but here in the city of milwaukee we have got tighter restrictions. they came through with it two days ago. it starts tomorrow. dance floors are closed. all patrons have to be seated at all times. so, a little better than chicago. obviously our cases have been spiking here in milwaukee. hospital rates are higher but people cannot move around. they must be seated at all times unless you're entering or exiting the building or using the restrooms. connell: now, obviously this is a huge blow to your business which i'm sure had been struggling through the pandemic to begin with. are you making it with those three restaurants? >> it is hard to determine. we're here in downtown milwaukee. we're stone's throw away from the pfizer forum.

our rents and overhead are reliant on big events this concert season. the milwaukee bucks should be playing. there is not a lot of restaurants. the next step here if they go to tighter restrictions it goes to dine-in and carry out. the feature is bleak for sure. connell: the governor is a democrat, tony evers. to your point the numbers don't look good in wisconsin, his basic point, quoting him, no overway to put it, we are overwhelmed. he looks at hospital rates, things we talked about, we have to do something. what would you like to see done next? more help to bridge the gap, whether state, local, federal money, stimulus certainly doesn't look promising? what do you like see happen next? >> there are two different things. the virus is real and out there. small business operators don't have the opportunity to close down to keep everyone safe. we have to come up with safety measures. i think the city of milwaukee

health department did a fantastic job. before the restrictions we had a 70 question survey we had to fill out to get approved by the health department, how to space people, how to wear masks, sanitize properly. it was going well. we need action from the politicians, local, state and federal. the local politicians here in wisconsin, the legislation has not met since april. they haven't come up with a plan. they haven't worked with governor evers. the ppp loans we all know were given to small businesses. there was a lot of faults in that. the small business, the ppp loans were this to protect people's payroll. that is in the definition of the ppp loan. it was there for eight weeks. we were using that. we were paying people whether we had jobs for them. we were paying them to protect our payroll, we knew, the staff is our family. we wanted them to be a part of us. we're paying them to be here. in the sixth a 7th week, you can use that for 24 weeks.

they didn't give anymore money. restrictions went further and further. you were done with the ppp loan in july. here we are in november. there is $130 billion still out there. in the pp loans. the legislation closed it down middle of summer. they need to act. they need to open. main street is hurting. there is national testing strategy issue because the virus is real. the problem one of our employees tests positive. we need to keep them safe. we need to get everybody else tested. those tests right now, no strategy and no way to get around it can take four days, six days. it could take a week to get back. small businesses like myself and other restaurateurs out there cannot close down. i haven't seen amazon close down because one of their employees tests positive. but for us if we shut down entire week, one-fourth of our revenue which is cut in half is gone but rent and mortgages continue to be the same. connell: hope somebody, whether madison, washington, somewhere else was listening to you, bobby.

thank you for coming on. more importantly good luck. tough times, bobby will kins up in the milwaukee area. we have to shift gears. stay on this theme. visa coming up on the screen, stock after-hours. reporting fourth quarter results, back to ashley on visa. what do you see? ashley: you see on the screen the adjusts earnings per share, connell, coming in at $1.12. that beats the estimate. revenue 5.1 billion, as opposed to estimate of 5 billion. that revenue number down 17% year-over-year. on the earnings side down close to 20% year-over-year but the all-important number of visa is the number on global payments volume. this is the metric that they use to gauge how good the quarter was. it was up. the volume by 4%. estimate was for a gain of right around 2.1%. so that is a very key metric for visa and it beat that handily.

visa, like so many other stocks, has been hurt by the pandemic. people are not out in restaurants much. yes, they are home ordering goods. visa has taken a hit from the pandemic. by the way it is not providing outlook for fiscal 2021. this, by the way, represents the end of the fiscal year for them, september 30th. they will not give any outlook looking forward because it is so uncertain. as you can see the stock moving up 1 1/2% after-hours. connell? connell: join the club of companies that can't give us an outlook. thank you, ashley. the other story, mr. dorsey goes to washington. he was joined today by mr. pichai and mr. zuckerberg. as well the trio of tech ceos appeared before the senate commerce committee. all happening less than a week before the election. they talked about their roles as content moderators. they tried to fend off accusations of bias coming in from republicans. live now to edward lawrence with more on that hearing.

edward? reporter: connell it, wasn't all niceties during the hearing. it became heated at times. at the heart of the debate whether section 230 of the communications decency act should be change or eliminated. senator commerce committee chairman roger wicker says president donald trump and former vice president joe biden want to repeal it. the ceos of twitter, alphabet, google's parent company and facebook admit it needs to be updated but not repealed. >> if we were subject to a larger number of content lawsuits because 230 didn't exist, that would have likely made it prohibitive for me as a college student in a dorm room to get started with this enterprise. >> it opens this hearing with calls for more transparency. we realize we need to earn trust more. we realize that more accountability is needed to show our intentions and to show the outcomes. reporter: much of the hearing focused on censorship, specifically about the story the "new york post" broke regarding

possible access to joe biden when he was in office payments to his son. in one exchange senator ted cruz asked who put big tech in charge of what can be reported? >> you don't believe twitter has any ability to influence elections? >> no. we are one part of a spectrum of communications channels that people have. >> so you're testifying to this committee right now that twitter, when it silences people, when it sensors people, when it blocks political speech that has no impact on elections. >> people have choice of other communication channels. >> not if they don't hear information. reporter: twitter ceo jack dorsey says he thinks it was a mistake for twitter to block the story and the policy was change ad day later. still the damage for big tech may have already been done. >> you can't just pick and choose which viewpoints are allowed on your platform, expect to keep immunity granted by section 230. reporter: democrats on the committee also critical of the companies for their privacy and

antitrust issues but blasted republicans for holding this hearing days before the election and not waiting in after it. connell? connell: quite a hearing. edward. thank you edward lawrence in washington. we'll have more later in the hour. the final arguments before the election. president trump and democratic nominee joe biden making their final pitch to voters in battleground states. we'll break down where things stand. plus it is barreling towards the u.s. hurricane zeta strengthening as it takes aim towards the gulf coast, forecasters warning residents in the path after life-they havening storm surge. there is push to stay home for the holidays. a growing message from mayors across the country as growing second wave of coronavirus, how residents are responding especially here in new york. stick around.

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♪. connell: final stretch to the election. president trump is speaking in battleground arizona today, holding a campaign rally there as his opponent joe biden has been slamming the president's handling of the covid-19 pandemic. let's bring in blake burman from the white house with the latest on all of this. reporter: hi, there, connell. president trump is speaking in

arizona. on the border of arizona and nevada. he gets a two for one. this is crucial state for the president down the homestretch. republicans have won five consecutive presidential elections in the grand canyon state. the polls suggest that joe biden might have a slight lead there. in the beginning of the ral hi the president looked ahead to upcoming third quarter gdp figure that will be released tomorrow morning, saying why he deserves another four years. listen to him in part here. reporter: before that happens, and i don't know what it is. president trump: i don't know what it is the atlanta fed predicted a big number biggest in the history of the country. gdp will be coming it. it will be announced on the 1st, maybe a day before the 1st. if that number is not gig big you don't have to vote for me, okay? reporter: speaking of joe biden he voted earlier today. he received a covid-19 health briefing. he criticized the president's rally, in omaha, nebraska, where

hundreds of people were stranded in freezing cold weather. biden's view another example of a president's lack of leadership. >> he get as photo top. he gets out. he leaves everyone else to suffer for failure to make a responsible plan. seems like he doesn't care much about it. the longer he is in charge. more reckless he gets. it is enough. it is time to change. reporter: connell within the last hour anonymous has revealed himself by the way. you will remember this was the op-ed published in "the new york times" about two years ago, september 2018. at that point identified as senior administration official said they were part of the resistance within the trump administration. well miles taylor has come forward to say he is anonymous. he at one point was chief of staff over at dhs when kristen kristen neilson as running operation. the white house is disgruntled him as former low level

employee, who in their words is a coward. connell? connell: blake, thank you. one more comment from former vice president joe biden in the speech blake referenced. his real focus was president trump's approach to handling the virus. here is a little more. >> refusal to of the trump administration to recognize the reality we're living through at a time almost 1000 americans a day are dying, every single day. it is an insult to every single person suffering from covid-19 and every family who has lost a loved one. connell: with that we're joined by mercedes schlapp, trump 2020 campaign advisor. you heard the former vice president's closing argument, or part of it, is essential lip that the downplaying of the virus by the president is an insult to people who suffered as a result of it. you say what? >> well that is just outrage just. the president hasn't downplayed in the virus in any way. it is a priority for the president to combat the virus.

obviously the president took aggressive and bold actions early on that saved lives. some of actions with joe biden did not agree with, put travel restrictions on china, that joe biden called xenophobic. so for joe biden to use covid as a political strategy i think is something that is offensive and quite frankly, i think at the end of the day what we look at the fact joe biden has no plan. in fact what he has pooled together is plagarizing from the president's plan. and you know, joe biden talks about well we need more testing. well, we are leading in the number of tests that people have taken here in the united states. accessibility to these tests. the president announced 150 million tests that were send to nursing homes as well as to schools, to help insure that we're able to help kids go back to school and teachers to go back to school. so here there is very clear contrast after president who wants to open up this economy

panned our schools safely and responsibly versus joe biden who is, all about the lockdown which we know would be destructive to our economy? connell: that is a real economic debate. that is going on in the market as we talked about at the top of the show, whether we should impose more lockdowns or trying to continue with opening up. now when you say the president hasn't played down the virus at all, mercedes, why does he keep using expressions we're rounding the turn, turning the corner something along those hines when the numbers suggest otherwise? they're saying the cases are up only because of testing when again the data suggests otherwise. we see the positivity rate up. it not just the testing. why does the president continue to say things like that? isn't that essentially downplaying the virus. >> the mortality rate is down 85%. we learned more about covid and how to deal with covid and provide the right therapeutics. which we didn't know about six or seven months ago. and so i think what we're seeing also is the fact that we also

are making tremendous progress on vaccine development. obviously with the president initiating "operation warp speed," that has been critical in moving what would be through the market quickly and getting the vaccines developed, something that would take a much longer period of time. i think the president being able to mobilize the federal government in addition to the private sector, to insure that we have the equipment we need and the resources we need, to send those over to the state around local governments has been a critical part of this. so as we're going through this together, you know, our goal is to get a vaccine developed by the end of the year and as well as insure that therapeutics can get to market. connell: now with all of these questions out there the president does still continue to draw these large crowd. we're looking at the one in arizona right now. there is some case to be made he is building some momentum again going into the election. everybody keeps saying that his path to victory is quite narrow.

you heard that over and over again. i will be in pennsylvania on election day. i'm looking at maps, trying to look out, what to you is the best path to victory and what is the most important state if you had to narrow it down to one or two right now? it seems like it would be pennsylvania? is that fair? >> that is a good assessment. for the most part we have seven different scenarios we look at to get to 270. obviously for the president, this is about defending the states he won in 2016 and expanding those states. and so that includes nevada, minnesota, new hampshire. i will take minnesota for instance that we lost by a little less than 1%. the reason, in 2016 and minnesota we had no resources invested in there. we had one staffer. in the final days we moved that staffer out of minnesota. this is not the case that we're seeing right now. in minnesota we opened up field offices. we have a very strong ground game, stronger than we ever had in 2016. you're talking about the fact we

have 2.5 million volunteers in these targeted stated. that is even more than president obama had back in 2008. in addition to that we're looking at about 158 million voter contacts. that is knocking on doors, making phone calls. our ground game is unprecedented. democrats they have no ground game. so they will have very difficult time closing the gap and winning in november. connell: minnesota did come very close to joining the other three last time, 1 1/2%, thereabouts. we'll watch it of course, mercedes. thanks for coming on, answering questions. mercedes schlapp, from trump campaign. marriott is hoping to help americans who may be tired of working from home. the hotel chain is offering what they're saying a day pass for members of its travel program. what it allows for guests to have access to a hotel room at select locations between 6:00 a.m., between 6:00 p.m. whilyou're there make use of on-site business facilities and other perks.

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♪. connell: more than 100,000 residents forced from their homes. as fast-moving wildfires continue to spread across southern california. fox's jonathan hunt has the details. reporter: the scorched ground around me here tells a story how intense the fires have been the last couple days. as you look across the ridges and canyons you see how the flames swept down and through. as we spin around right in front of me here, you can see firefighters still on standby here. although the real danger seems to have dissipated. you can see how close these flames got to all of these homes here. it was heroic efforts of firefighters like these that saved those homes. both on the ground and in the

air. they were helped over the past 24 hours of the dissipation of the famed santa ana winds. on monday they were blowing up to 96 miles an hour at times. yesterday they sat down a bit. the firefighters were able to get the water dropping choppers and the planes that drop fire retardant up into the air and that is what made the difference. they got the upper hand yesterday and today as you can see from the firefighters there, they are in far more relaxed mode. they know they are very much winning this battle. it has been a tough one but as so often here in southern california, indeed throughout the state, the heroic efforts of the firefighting forces combined from so many areas in southern and northern california appear to have won the day. connell: jonathan, thank you. straight to a "fox business alert" now as we focus on the ford earnings. that price, stock price is soaring after-hours, better than

expected quarterly profit for ford up 6%. it cites strong u.s. demand for pickups and suvs. forecasting a full-year profit instead of a loss. very strong report from ford. it added by the end of the year customers will be able to choose from 12 hybrid and fully electric vehicles from around the globe. all systems go. ford will be up tomorrow. top officials are warning that the u.s. is at a critical point in the pandemic. 26 states reported record numbers on covid-19 cases. we'll talk about a expert about the likelihood of more economic lockdowns which is the fear here. hurricane zeta is expected to bring landfall in the hour bringing life-threatening storm surge and tornadoes. the storm is showing more signs of getting stronger. businesses today are looking to tomorrow.

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there will be a lot of fallout from that hearing from new york to silicon valley. i want to bring susan li in to break it down a little more. we were talking earlier in the show about this, susan, but that was some day. i guess all over virtually. >> party lines were pretty clear in the senate grilling of big tech ceos. republicans hammered home conservative bias, shielding, labeling of president trump's posts and tweets and twitter limited sharing of the "new york post" hunter biden story. one interesting exchange, facebook ceo, mark zuckerberg was asked if the intelligence community told him to do it. >> did the fbi contact you to say that the "new york post" story was false? >> senator, not that story specifically -- >> why did you throttle it back? >> they alerted us of a, to be on heightened alert around a risk of hack and leak operations. reporter: for the democrats it was about misinformation, fake news, proliferating on

platforms. qanon was brought up as political ads. facebook banned all political ads, but will ban all political ads after election night indefinitely. twitter did the ban earlier this year. the hearing was supposed to center around the communications decency act section 230. both president trump and joe biden floated the idea of getting rid of it. all three ceos in their opening statements said if that does happen, that would hurt free expression and free speech and ultimately users. mark zuckerberg says the rules should be updated yes, but changes should not stifle expression or impede innovation. dorsey says getting rid of section 230 could collapse the way we communicate. no political bias full stop at google, according to pichai. connell, interesting day a lot with theatrics we see in the these senate discussions. connell: you cover these companies. we'll all have to shift gears, 24 hours from now, most of them report earnings, right?

reporter: including twitter which usually does it before the bell. tomorrow we get them after the bell. you have to rifle through the numbers. five big technology companies, twitter google, face back, amazon, microsoft, most say they are priced for perfection shun, they're expected to do well with google, facebook, social media plays, talk about engagement. that is the most key metric. 145 million use twitter each and every day. they have added users this year, for facebook, as you heard in the senate hearing today, two billion around the world, connell, each and every day use their platforms. connell: i wanted to ask you about that, as a way to promote tomorrow's show. we're all over that. thanks for playing along. susan li in the newsroom in new york. we'll have the earnings for you tomorrow. meantime a spooky phenomenon right now. a rare blue moon will rise this month, notably on halloween. it means a second lunar moon

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♪. connell: look at hurricane zeta. it is about to make landfall. expected to hit louisiana as a category 2 storm and it will be the third storm to hit that state in two months. matt finn is in new orleans live with the latest on this storm. matt? reporter: connell, we're in the iconic french quarter. the rain is coming down and intensifying. the area has been a ghost town, not only because of the pandemic up the latest hurricane. throughout the french quarter we saw businesses boarding up. we saw people sandbagging. officials warned everyone to be home, off of the streets by 2:00 local today, because the worst of zeta is expected to begin around dinner time. currently category 2. potentially increases to a category 3 with sustained winds of 100 miles an hour. those are life-threatening winds. zeta marks the seventh time the big easy has been in the hurricane cone of uncertainty.

new orleans mayor is warning this one is not a drill. we talked to one man that people along the coast are sick of all these storms. we talked to some tourists that say they are not too worried. >> i am really tired of it. i can only speak for myself. i have had it. i have had it up to here. >> we'll have the hurricane party at the hotel room. >> they said it would not be that bad. they have had worse. nothing like hurricane katrina or anything like that. so that we should be pretty good. reporter: connell the power is expected to go out in parts of new orleans. it could stay out many days. connell? connell: matt finn live in new orleans. worry of second wave as coronavirus cases pass 70,000 in the united states. then after the bell news from gilead sciences that company reported a 17% rise in revenue.

stock is down though. sales of well-known drug remdesivir fell short of analysts projections. dr. mark mcclellan joins us with perspective on the virus. duke university margolis center for public policy. he joined us a number of times on this pandemic. maybe we'll work backwards to the fear of lockdowns. i saw dr. fauci says he doesn't think we'll get a vaccine until january at the earliest. we made certainly progress on treatment. where do you think we are in terms of treating, eventually vaccinating against this virus? >> connell, we're definitely making progress. while we may not have vaccines available for even some people to use till the end of this year, recall next year, if they stay on track and in their development, everything looks okay so far, that will gradually help us get better control, better immunity over the first half of 2021. in the meantime we are making

progress on the so-called monoclonal antibodies. these are the man-made version of the antibodies that the vaccine get you to produce and those could be available much sooner. there are two companies, regeneron and lily have two proposals before the food and drug administration right now to start makings treatments available. they can help with people at the highest risk of complications if we can get them to people early. that could help prevent them, many hospitalizations to take a significant part of the edge off, what is looking like a pretty tough coming weeks with respect to the continued spread of the virus. connell: it is. cases as you know are up just about everywhere. hospitalizations have risen in a number of states as well to your point. if you're advising governments, i know you've done a fair amount of, what are the current best metrics to use in terms of imposing lockdowns, and how have they changed from march, or

april, may? some people cite, death rate, deaths per 100,000 is better than it was. do we look at it the same whether we decide to lock down or is it a different approach this time? >> we're definitely doing better in terms of survival, people that come down with the most severe forms of covid. that is good news. it hits health systems hard, with the increases in hospitalizations you're describing in many parts of the country now. icus are approaching capacity. health systems cut back on regular care. set up emergency operations facilities. and that is not a sustainable way to deliver care. so we need to make more progress. looking at hospitalizations as a risk factor for when further steps need to be taken is one place to start. the problem, connell, is that by the time you see hospitalizations, that is about infections that happened, 10, 14 days ago. so you're operating behind the curve. i think we're seeing in many parts of the country now fast

enough growth in cases we need to take some proactive steps. not general lockdowns but more attention to restricting businesses locally and really encouraging people to participate in the steps that we know can help slow the spread. the masks. the use of distancing, small groups, things like that. really it will make a difference in slowing down this big set of surges that we're seeing right now. connell: speak a little bit more about that with some more specific examples if you can, about what you think is necessary now, and where you think it is necessary. you're talking about something similar to what we saw announced today in france and germany? if so where in the u.s. should we be looking at? >> i don't see a national set of lockdown steps or steps towards closing down like france and germany announced. the u.s. is a big and varied country in terms of its impacts. i don't see us going back to something like we saw in the spring but more focused steps in

areas particularly hard hit is something we'll see more of. it is happening in places like chicago, newark, el paso, texas now, to help try to get the outbreak under control. i think in many other areas it is important for people to remember that there are steps that they can take wearing masks, again staying out of large groups, regardless what is open or not. these steps will make a difference. we can continue to open up and have some economic activity but not, connell, if the case rates are going up so high that they're really threatening our health care systems and really disrupting daily life. connell: dr. mcclellan, as always, thank you, from duke. dr. mark mcclellan with us today. we do have a new threat to businesses in that travel restrictions are expected to be more tightly enforced ahead of the holiday season. we'll move on to tell you where that is happening next. made for

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marty walsh is urging all residents to get a coronavirus test. but the cost burden will be on families and the uninsured. then you have el paso. texas officials have enacted a curfew, told people to stay home for the following two weeks, and businesses could face a fine of up to at least $1,000 if they don't follow protocols. we know it's tough. cities and states all across the country have to put together their own plans, but businesses are caught in the crossfire. i spoke to the president of the 34th street partnership that represents a lot of the big businesses here, and he weighed in. listen in. >> if it goes on like this well into next year, i'm not sure what'll be left in midtown manhattan. >> reporter: you have outbreaks that ebb and flow in all different states and cities across the country but, unfortunately, it's leading to a patchwork of policies across the country. back to you. connell: yep.

that's 2020. kristina, thank you. crest teen that partsinevelos in new york city. as mentioned earlier, we'll have tech earnings tomorrow, and we'll see how the market reacts after a 943-point drop today. "lou dobbs tonight" starts now. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. we are six days from election day, and president trump continues to rally tens of thousands of husband supporters all a-- his supporters all across the country as a breakneck pause. the president today focusing on the battleground state of arizona. it's a state he won in 2016 by 3.5 points. the president held two major rallies in bullheld city, that's just -- bullhead city and in goodyear, arizona. president trump telling voters it's up to them to halt the rise of the radical left. >> it took generations to