big story moments ago, the fox news discussion desk calling the state of michigan for former vice president joe biden. he's now 6 electoral votes away from being declared president-elect of the united states. this as the trump campaign is threatening lawsuits here in pennsylvania. more to come tomorrow, "lou dobbs tonight the" starts right now. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. it has been almost 24 hours since the first polls of yesterday closed, and we still don't know whether president trump or joe biden has won the election. at this hour joe biden is leading president trump by 264 electoral college votes to 214. 270, of course, needed to win. there are five battleground states that are still counting mail-in ballots. that could yet tip the scales toward either candidate. just about a half percent separates president trump and joe biden in nevada.

the president has a more than 6-point if lead this pennsylvania -- in pennsylvania, and the trump campaign has declared victory and claimed pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes. president trump is ahead of joe biden by more than 1% in north carolina, and the president is is leading biden by about 1.5% in georgia. the fox news decision desk says joe biden has won the state of arizona and its 11 electoral votes, but the trump campaign is adamant that they will protect the integrity of this election and that they will be able to declare victory in arizona by the end of this week. just over 600,000 votes remain to be counted. the president is behind only 93,000 votes there. president trump expressing his frustration with the delay in states, calling many of those races last night after results showed him leading in a number of those states.

here's what president trump said earlier today. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did one this election. [cheers and applause] so our goal now is to insure the integrity for the good of this nation. this is a very bug -- big moment. this is a major fraud on our nation. we want the law to be used in a proper manner, so we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court. we want all voting to stop. we don't want them to find any ballots at 4:00 in the morning and add them to the list, okay? [applause] it's a veried sad, it's a very sad moment. to me, this is a very sad

moment. and we will win this, and as far as i'm concerned, we already have won it. [cheers and applause] so i just want to thank you. lou: president trump. the corporate left-wing national media, the radical dems, rinos, big tech, social media all having a conniption on social media and twitter as the president, as you saw there, claimed victory. but they've all been silent about the premature victory lap thrown by the biden campaign. here's what one of biden's senior advisers was saying today. >> we're winning the election. west virginia won the election. we've won the election. and we're going to defend that election. so we don't have to do anything but protect the rights of voters and to stand up for the democratic process. lou: biden's campaign saws they're defending -- says they're defending the election. they deny what they're really doing which is stealing it.

over the last four years, the radical dems have been hell bent on ousting president trump from office. they were behind and influencing an fbi investigation into president trump while he was still a candidate. they were behind and leading the appointment of a special counsel, a fraudulent special counsel and a fraudulent investigation. everything from obamagate to their sham impeachment was a fraud. and they knew it. and yet they tried to subvert husband presidency for -- his presidency for four years. they tried, they tried to overthrow his presidency, and they appear to be fully committed to the only option they have left to regain power. in some states there seems to be clear examples of abject voter fraud whether it's denying poll watchers their, well, their lawful right to observe ballots,

voting counting or handing out democratic election literature at those polls or throwing ballots away. there are charges of all of those instances. radical dem house speaker nancy pelosi made it crystal clear she was ready to be involved in selecting the next president of the united states. she said if election results were contested, the house would play a prominent role in making that discussion. pelosi also voicing an ominous proclamation last week. she vowed to install biden in the white house irrespective of the final vote tallies. >> i feel very confident that joe biden will be elected president on tuesday. whatever the end count is. but on the election that occurs on tuesday, he will be elected on january 20th, he will be inaugurated president of the united states.

lou: pelosi's extraordinary confidence parroted by pennsylvania's attorney general, josh shapiro, who tweeted last week that the, quote: if all the votes are added up in pennsylvania, trump is going to losement -- lose. what did he mean by that? the corrupt dems not only had the outcome of the election predetermined, it appears, they also had sage advice if their twice-failed presidential candidate hillary clinton who urged, who urged biden not to concede the rouse under any circumstances -- the race under any circumstances whatsoever. prescient advice, don't you think? and pennsylvania's dem secretary of state today said there are millions of ballots left to be counted in that state. thousands of those ballots are from the city of philadelphia where final tallies aren't expected until thursday at the earliest. for the latest, we turn now to fox news correspondent aishah hasnie in philadelphia. what can you tell us?

>> reporter: lou, good evening to you. you know, frustration is probably the word of the day, possibly the word of the week. and the trump campaign, eric trump, rudy giuliani, pam bondi just wrapped up a press conference at the airport a short while ago in which they expressed their frustration with what's happening here in philadelphia and in pennsylvania. and made some allegations, made their cause as to why -- case as to why the vote counting should stop altogether the at least temporarily. a couple of allegations that they made was that there's not enough transparency in the vote counting, that perhaps they even have some video that shows issues like their observers, those republican observers that are supposed to be watching those ballots be counted somehow being kept about 30 feet away from those ballots. their observers apparently can't see anything, they're having to use binoculars, and the camp has made allegations of intimidation tactics possibly being used against their observers.

here's rudy giuliani just a short while ago. >> we went before a democrat judge, nod need to tell you what the result is in philadelphia if you're before a democrat judge. obviously, a political hack who doesn't know the meaning of the word observe. not a single republican has been able to look at any one of these mail ballots. they could be from mars as far as we're concerned, or they could be from the democratic national committee. joe biden could have voted 50 times as far as we know or 5,000 times. the ballots could be from camden. >> look, lou, both sides, people across the aisle, want answers. and patience around here is wearing thin. this afternoon we had about a dozen protesters outside the convention center here shouting and holding signs that read count every vote. let's show you where the count currently stands right now. president trump leading in pennsylvania 52-46 with about 86% of those precincts reporting. a reminder that the state of

pennsylvania had 3.1 million mail-in ballots. now, election workers inside the philadelphia convention center, they are still counting those ball to otts round the clock -- ballots round the clock, plus ballots coming in through the mail that were postmarked on election day. the state does have until friday to accept those. the trump campaign, they're trying to get the supreme court involved in that one, plus they just fired off that lawsuit to try to put a temporary stop to the counting altogether over the lack of transparency. lou, the commissioners here in philadelphia just came out a short while ago to kind of answer some questions. they were asked about those allegations, and they said, look, we've had this leave feed up since the very beginning, people can watch this live feed, and they feel like they're doing everything properly, everything aboveboard. and also the governor has just responded a short while ago, releasing a statement that read in part: pennsylvania is going to count every vote and make sure that everyone has their

vows heard. that coming from the governor, again, in just the last short moments. lou? lou: and the president and the gop are going to make certain that every ballot is lawful. aishah hasnie, thanks as always, we appreciate your reporting from the epicenter, it seems, of the deep huh disturbing -- deeply disturbing contest in pennsylvania. turning now to wall street, stocks today rallying, finishing higher. the dow jones industrials up 368 points, the s&p up 74, the nasdaq gained 430. volume on the big board, 4.8 billion shares. crude oil gaining 3.5%, up to $39 a barrel. a reminder, listen to my reports on the salem radio network weekdays. up next, house republicans make a number of gains, blunting the so-called national left-wing media's blue wave prediction. what will a more balanced house

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♪ ♪ lou: we have a great lineup of guests this evening to take up the president's fight to insure a fair election and preserve the integrity of our elections. we're joined tonight but house minority leader kevin mccarthy. we'll be talking with him in just a few moments. also joined by trump campaign senior adviser corey lewandowski, national co-chair of lawyers for trump, harmeet dhillon, and eric eggers, an author writing extensively about the left and its efforts to steal elections. we'll be talking with him. and breaking news, a top democrat in florida is now reportedly blaming joe biden's poor performance in florida on the radical left's push to defund police. politico's mark caputo published text messagings from the unnamed democrat who tweeted, quote: defund the police killed us. president trump won the astronaut of florida by just

about -- the astronaut of florida by just about 3.5%. state of florida. republicans have gained a net of five seats in the house, putting an end to the left's attempts to expand control of the house. the current balance of power shows democrats with 203 seats, republicans, 185. 218, of course, needed for a majority. the radical dems seem to have also failed in flipping the senate. that graphic wrong, it said 1 is 80, and it's 198. the democrats posting a gain of just one seat, rerepublicans now have a 48-47 advantage, five races still undecided. the dems poured $200 million in to challenge both senators mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham. their candidates ended up losing by a combined 35 points. not a judicious use of money, was it?

well, joining us now, republican house minority leader kevin mccarthy. congressman, great to have you with us, and congratulations on expanding your numbers and having the opportunity, perhaps, to have a little more influence with speaker place su -- pelosi. your thoughts on the evening. >> well, thank you, lou, and you're right. not only did we expand, winning 7 seats, there there are 11 seat we're leading in right now, and we have expanded this party. it's a credit to president trump. we have more women in congress as republicans than in the history of any timement we're going to double the number coming up. more minors. and that's what this president's been able to do, expand this republican party to reach everyone. and at the end of the day, for all your viewers, stay patient, but let's pay attention. what's going to happen is i think fox even made a mistake too by calling arizona too soon. i think when they continue to

count the ballots, it's going to come back to president trump that he won arizona, he's going to win pennsylvania, and that'll be 280 electoral votes that he needs, because you only need 270, and he will get four more years. and you'll have a congress that almost has a majority and a senate that has a majority. we're going to be able to run the floor of congress to make sure we're focused on what america wants most, solutions. lou: the president, i talked with the president earlier today. he is very concerned about the integrity of this election. he is very concerned about past elections. we saw what happened in 2018. we also are witnessing what's happening this year. why aren't the republicans more awe -- aggressive in insisting that the rules be followed before the fact? i'm hearing stories out of philadelphia, just horror show,

being pushed -- republican watchers being pushed a aside, their attorneys being denied access. it goes on and on. where in the world are the legal forces of the republican party and their awe circumstance of their prerogatives -- assertion of their prerogatives under law so they can, in the first plus, assure the integrity of an election? >> well, we've got our team there because i've never known anytime in any place in america that you cannot have an observe orer from both parties to sit there and on receiver what's going on inside -- observer what's going on inside. and for a judge inside philadelphia to came not to allow that, i don't think that they quite know the law. we need observers, we need to have transparency. the president is way ahead as eric trump recently said, more than 400,000 votes. and the concern is they just mailed everybody a ballot, and we're looking at philadelphia. it's interesting whew those

aren't counted yet. are they waiting to see how many extra votes they need before they bring that forward? the president won pennsylvania, he's going to win arizona, and he's going to get another four years because he earned it. lou: it's -- we look around the country, there are five states, a sixth state, georgia, in which a democratic stronghold, fulton county, georgia, is having a terrible time because of a broken water pipe, for crying out loud, that has absolutely nothing to do with the ballots, and they just stopped counting, just stopped. >> yeah. lou: and we look at five democratic states. those are the democrat-run states. all -- is it coincidental that there are five democratic states that don't know how to count and how to i move ballots forward and the law and the rules surrounding the prerogatives of the posing party? that seems to be the case. but the obvious big majority of

states knew how to get it done. >> yeah. it's not just that. think about joe biden here. he saw all these polls, and they were all wrong. the poll that matters is the american public. and you know what? president trump knew it. you know why he knew the poll of the american public? because he was out listening to this many, talking to them. i've never seen a man with this work ethic, doing five rallies a day where you end up at the end of the night exhausted, and he'd do a telephone town hall with more people inside the congressional races as well. joe biden couldn't get out to almost anything. but that's why at the end of the day, president trump is going to win another four years, because the american public knows that he is the one who could rebuild the economy. and we can't take anything for granted, that's why we've got lawyers down on the ground, we've got 'em inside, and we're going to have to fight because we want to make sure every legal vote is counted. but it's just the legal votes that have to be counted, and they could not be voting after the election. nobody believes in that.

lou: well, then perhaps somebody should have told the supreme court -- [laughter] because -- >> yes. lou: -- in supporting the rules, they've failed to note they don't have to have a postmark. so i don't know how in the hell anyone in their right mind thinks they can enforce that. >> how can you trust it without a postmark? lou: -- it's a disaster -- >> yeah, i don't understand -- lou: how can you trust anything without people being able, the opposing party to a walk in and observe? it's one outrage after another in pennsylvania. >> yes. we make you -- lou: congressman, again -- >> -- you should have it for a vote at the same time. thank you for all that you do, lou, and let's make sure everyone stays in touch on this. lou: yeah. and go raise some hell, will you? >> i will. [laughter] lou: because this needs to stop. >> we'll make sure of that. lou: congressman, thanks so much. thank you. congressman kevin mccarthy, minority leader of an expanding number of republicans in that

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lou: breaking news, the trump campaign says they will demand a are count in the state of wisconsin. biden had been declared the winner there by the networks, but his margin of victory is razor thin. fox news correspondent mike tobin is in milwaukee with more for us. he's been covering this election through every, every long minute and hour of it. mike, great to have you with us.

>> reporter: great to be here. and the canvassing will begin here in milwaukee tomorrow at the county courthouse. but that canvassing needs to complete before the president's demand for a recount can become official. they do qualify because the margin of victory is less than 1%, and they are aggrieved party. however, megan wolf, the administrator of the election commission, says the president's late night claim of a framing lent election is -- fraudulent election is an insult to all of the local election officials. >> every piece of data is publicly available. and so there's no opportunity to add additional volts to the tally, right? >> reporter: now, president trump went into wednesday morning with 107,000-vote lead. however, here in the city of milwaukee, upwards of 160,000 absentee and early votes still needed to be totaled. when they were totaled, they were loaded onto a flash drive.

the city clerk with a polices escort hand delivered those totals to the milwaukee county, and as expected, those votes haley favored joe biden -- heavily faved joe biden. also in green bay, when it was totaled up, the president's 100,000-vote lead became a 20,000 deficit. late in the afternoon, the little town of willow, wisconsin, finally got its totals in, when that was done, richland county, wisconsin, showed a favorable vote to president trump to the tune of 949 votes but not enough to close that 20,000-vote gap. lou? lou: well, if everybody is comfortable with what has, how they've conducted the election, it won't be any problem. it is the responsibility of the election officials, obviously, to run a clean, fair and effective count for all parties and a recount is not an insult,

a recount is just simply an effort to make sure that no mistakes were made. i think that's a pretty reasonable position. we've covered a lot of these, mike, these elections. wouldn't you agree with that view? >> reporter: i would agree with that view, and i would also agree that megan wolf and some of her other colleagues here with the wisconsin election commission and with the different counties kind of knew this was coming. they seemed to take great pains to not only be very careful with what was going to go on with the vote, but to be very public. they held a number of zoom conferences, they took questions from reporters. they also went over the fact that they had gone over a number of hypothetical scenarios. they sat down and did their worst case scenarios, what about a cyber attack, what about a missed ballot, prepared for it. but you saw that megan wolf is just being very defensive of the election officials who are underneath her. lou?

lou: i understand she's being protective of her colleagues and all who work for her, and that's understandable. mike, appreciate it. and, well, philadelphia could talk a lesson from mull waukee. milwaukee. mike tobin, thanks so much. let's go back to the legal fight in pennsylvania to try to stop the radical dems from, well, any kind of irregularity e in this election. joining us tonight from philadelphia is corey lewandowski, 2016 trump campaign adviser, senior adviser to the 2020 trump campaign, great american. corey, it's a mess in philadelphia. the president is insisting no matter what it takes that these, a all of these areas which are questions, that it be thoroughly reviewed and recounted where appropriate and get to the bottom of what's really going on. he sounded, when i talked to him

today, he sounded very committed to demanding rigorous, rigorous attention to the law and electoral integrity no matter where it is in the country. >> lou, you're absolutely right. look, i'm here in philadelphia today, and pam bonn duh and i are going -- pam bondi and i are going to oversee the efforts to insure that the integrity of the process is adhered to. here's what we know, we have seen poll watchers who have been unable to actually witness what's taking place. they're not able to see the ballots being opened, they're not being able to verify the signatures. as a matter of fact, they're being required to stand behind bike racks some 30 yards away, and the election officials here in philadelphia are first saying it's due to the integrity process, then after that they're saying it's due to the covid restrictions in the city. we know the covid restrictions require people to be 6 feet away, not bike rack 30 feet away. there are trying to steal this election, so we came to

philadelphia today to declare or a victory for donald trump and his campaign in the astronaut of pennsylvania. we are convinced that we have won this state. it should be in the win column for donald trump, and it puts us one step closer to seeing donald trump reelect as president of the united states. lou: and what legal actions are being taken, corey? what are you doing to assure that the integrity of the election is preserved in philadelphia? >> well, you know, lou, we've just talked about it. we see a pattern across this country of our people not having the opportunity to inspect the ballots as you would call it. and so we, we have filed a federal lawsuit already to insure that that no longer occurs. we want to make sure the ballots count, but not only that, we only want to count ballots that are legally voted on. and let me just remind the viewers right now, we came in two hours ago up 500,000 votes in the state of pennsylvania

with about 86% reporting. since that time we've seen them dump about 125,000 ballots, and donald trump still has an almost 400,000-vote lead in this state. at what point after 86% reporting, all the big cities have reported which means half republican counties, half democrat counties are yet to report. we know donald trump's going to win, so we've had to go through the court process to insure that the transparency continues. we are vigilant in our efforts here in pennsylvania, and pam bondi and i are going to make sure that every law is followed and every ballot is inspected in accordance with the law. lou: and, you know, it's unclear or to me, and in philadelphia, pennsylvania, is it necessary for there to be a postmark? is it necessary to have a signature comparison? >> well, lou, it's supposed to be, and here's what's happening

right now, they're saying, well, look, they're saying -- the secretary of state of pennsylvania is all of a sudden saying there are still millions of ballots to be counted. you know, that number continues to change. when you ask what the actual number is, the answer is we don't know. i don't know how that's possible. how can you make an argument that millions of ballots still need to be counted, but when you ask for the specific number, they don't know what the number is? we know that this city, unfortunately, has a history of fraud when it comes to elections. we're going to make sure that doesn't happen. we're going to make sure that the voting has stopped and that people aren't continuing to do that and that there's no stuffing of ballots here. our people have the right under the law to inspect what's going on. not from 30 feet away, lou. we're happy to do it from 6 feet away, but they have conceded the fact that here in philadelphia we have a light to see what's going on. they're trying to keep us back. they're intimidating individuals, they're putting them behind bike rack, they're

doing everything possible to insure we don't really verify what's happening in this city. lou: corey lewandowski, thanks for being with us, from the -- well, one of the major sites of what is highly questionable integrity in the electoral process. up next, the polls predicted president trump would be defeated, oh, by about 10%. by joe biden. just allowed bad were the polls? they were awful. we'll take a look right after these quick messages. stay with us, we'll be right back. one of the worst things about a cold sore is how it can make you feel. but, when used at the first sign, abreva can get you back to being you in just 2 and a half days. be kinder to yourself and tougher on your cold sores.

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♪ ♪ lou: pollsters and polling organizations are trying, it seems, to demonstrate they're obsolete. on the day before this election, economist ugov poll and another from cnbc showed joe biden with a 10-point national lead over president trump. quinnipiac had biden 11 points ahead. joe biden's lead in the general election is as of right now 2.2%. well, cnbc predicted biden would win florida by 3 points, quinnipiac producted biden up 5. -- predicted biden up by 5. president trump won the state in more than 3 points. in ohio, a very similar pattern. country by yak said biden was up by 4, president trump won the state by more than 8 points. this is horrible polling even by 2016 standards. this bad polling as seen across

other hotly-contested battleground states as well. in the particular, you might say, battleground states like michigan and pennsylvania. wisconsin may have been the most egregious, however. both the reuters -- ipsos and city. yen that polls had biden leading by double digits. are these suppression if polls or independent, objective, highly rigorous methodologically polls intended to inform the public? it seems it's more suppressive. it's certainly not impressive. a week before the election abc news and the washington post actually showed biden with a 17-point lead. reality? the race has been call for biden, but he's clinging to less than a 1-point lead. come -- comcast nbc's savannah guthrie shocked to learn this

morning about the massive potential for mail-in ballot fraud in pennsylvania. watch this exchange she had with fellow comcast reporter pete williams. >> those ballots have to be postmarked by election day -- >> actually, they don't. >> is that right? >> that's one of the problems here. no, they don't have pop if postmarked -- have to be postmarked. >> oh. >> they have to be postmarked or proof that they were mailed after election day, and that's been one of the -- >> wait a minute, pete, are you telling me somebody could put a ballot in the maul today as long as it gets here by friday e? >> well, that's what the republicans object to. lou: the correct answer is, yes. savannah, that's exactly what they can do, and that's exactly why the republicans are a little upset about the way the election has been run in pennsylvania. joining us tonight is harmeet dhillon, member of the 20 trump

advisory council -- 2020. she's the national co-chair of lawyers for trump. great to have you here, and my, oh, my, you're busy now. [laughter] >> yes. it's been a long night, lou, and your show has a done an excellent job of height lighting the critical -- highlighting the critical hot spots around the country. rest assured that we have a squad of lawyers on the ground already in each of these remaining states including some of the ones that have been called, michigan, wisconsin, and we are fighting hard in arizona, pennsylvania, and we are pushing hard to have the results declared in georgia and north carolina. you know, "the new york times" has retracted its early call for arizona, i believe, but fox still has it out there. but we believe that because a lot of the ballots that have not been counted yet in arizona are same-day, yesterday votes which will skew towards the president, that we have a good chance of making up that less than 100,000

deficit with over, i new, 600 to ,000 ballots -- i think, 600,000 ballots to be counted there. lou: 93,000 is what we have as the last gap for the president and narrowing. it's, let's go to pennsylvania, harmeet. one of the most egregious examples. savannah guthrie, as we showed there, shocked that no one required a postmark on a ballot. we've got other examples where no one is comparing rigorously ballot signatures to make sure that they have a match. >> right. lou: we have a supreme court that decided that, you know, it's all just fine as they try to avoid, obviously, taking a position in this race. your thoughts about, first of all, pennsylvania's buildup to early voting whether it be in-person votes or whether it be mail hundred. with these lax rules -- mail-in.

with these lax rules that are just simply encouraging fraud in their state. >> let's start with the premise that the right to vote is very fundamental, and even one stray vote talk about awe shawling -- should be appalling to anybody in the civil rights rule. if the situation were reversed and it was a red state, it was texas doing this to democrat vote observers, we would have multiple lawsuits filed by the naacp, by the aclu, all the alphabets would be filing lawsuits, but we don't operate that way. so in pennsylvania we've had this thuggish situation there, a lot of voter intimidation, a lot of intimidation of lawyers, lawyers have been threatened in pennsylvania and in philadelphia specifically by the city attorney for arrest if they are not pennsylvania-licensed attorneys. that is nonsense. that is not the law anymore in the country, and people have a civil right. they don't have to be a lawyer to go in and observe. as corey lewandowski mentioned, observing from 30 feet away is meaningless, it's impossible to

object to a mismatch that way. the fact that the ballots under the secretary of state's rules can be counted even if they are not postmarked is both outrageous and also in violation of the united states constitution which gives only the legislature or congress the right to set those time, place and man or rules. so so by changing that arbitrarily and having that endorsed by the pennsylvania supreme court, that is really one of the things that we expect to go back to the courts on in that state. but, you know, hope friday as we continue -- hopefully as we continue counting and insisting on our rights, we will actually win the raw count and maybe not need to go back into the courts. but that is a battleground. we have lawyers including we're now getting lawyers, pennsylvania lawyers also into those rooms where they're allowed legally to observe. and other areas we're talking about some of these contested races, in detroit the polling officials are actual putting up cardboard over the windows to make it impossible physically for observers to see what is happening in the counting room

so nobody can object to a signature mismatch, to a lack of a postmarket and even in the -- postmark. and even in the case of a voter being honest and dropping it in the mail, it is the case around the country that the united states postal service often does not postmark bulk mail. the ballots are prepaid by the state in california, vote-by-mail ballots, so it is quite possible for many of them to not be framed. lou: so what, what is the likely outcome of the lawsuits and the assertion of your rights under the law, under the constitution, and why in god's name weren't those rights asserted in anticipation of what we we are witnessing right now? >> well, some of them have been asserted throughout the year, lou. there has been prior litigation, so i don't want anyone to come away with the impression that the rnc or republicans or the state parties sat on their hands and waited. a lot of these things were

litigated in advance. we've filed lawsuits around the country all year. unfortunately, the pennsylvania situation happened during the time between ruth bader ginsburg's death and the seating of amy coney barrett, very narrow time where there was a 4-4 ruling, and justice roberts voted the wrong way. if that case goes back up, we might have a different outcome. lou: what a shock. >> yeah. lou: what a shock. are you confident that we're going to see this redressed, that you'll prevail in court and that the president will be, his lawsuits will be productive? >> well, yes. i'm confident that some of these things will resolve without a lawsuit and the narrow ones that a maw require it, we are going to very aggressively pursue them all the way. so, hopefully, we will win soon. we are actual projecting by the end of the week to be able to finalize the two more state that is we need. great. lou: harmeet dhillon, you're

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♪ lou: stealing elections, rigged elections, they surely can't happen in this country. this is america, right? well, let's take that up with rick eggers, he's the research director for the government accountability institute, author of the great book "fraud: how the left plans to steal the next election." the next election is upon us. great to have you with us. give us a sense of just how widespread, if you would quickly, how widespread is fraud in this country, across this country in elections? >> well, what i think we're all realizing unfortunately in realtime, lou, that fraud doesn't even have to be that widespread to literally swing a presidential election given the margins we're seeing anything such important swing states across the country, 10,000 votes or fewer can have a dramatic

impact. that's exactly what we're seeing in pennsylvania right now. sadly, we shouldn't really be surprised, right? we should all want every legal vote to count and only legal votes to count, but pennsylvania's track record the opposite of that. lou: philadelphia looks like a cesspool electorally. why in the world wouldn't the republicans surround that thing and, if you will, you know, at least apply a little -- what would you call it -- some sort of scent? a lot of observation and a real rigorous, demanding presence this those count -- in those counting rooms and the polls themselves? >> well, you're exactly right, lou. i'm not a lawyer, so i can't speak to what the legal strategy was going into the election. but anybody that's been paying attention to issues in philadelphia and pennsylvania generally knows there's been problems. remember, philadelphia literally had an elections official

arrested for stuffing ballot boxes earlier this year. and don't forget that in 2016, after the election, the secretary of state -- otherwise known as the state's top election official -- was actually fired over presiding over a system that permitted illegal aliens to vote. so this is not new for pennsylvania, and i think that's why people that have been paying attention had concerns about philadelphia and, unfortunately, those concerns prove to be very well founded. lou: we're running short on time, eric, and i apologize for that. do you believe the president and the gop will prevail in seeking redress in philadelphia and pennsylvania? >> well, lou, i'm an optimist by nature, so i would say i remain optimistic that the true intent of the american voter will be realized, and i think they've got a lot of qualified officials in place to help make that happen. lou: eric eggers, the very political answer but enlightening, and is we appreciate it. thanks so much. good to have you with us. stay with us, we're coming right

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