tv The Evening Edit FOX Business November 4, 2020 9:00pm-10:00pm EST
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head down and thank you so much for watching the best hour of your d pretty can also all me on twitter an instagram at kennedy nation. expect kennedy fbn and fbn.com for tonight guy benton, bryan and matt welch, will he get a haircut? stay tuned and good night. izabeg news mode tonight. we have headlines coming in. state of play right now, fox news calling michigan for joe biden but overall race very much hanging in the balance as we're still waiting on final results from four crucial states. joe biden has 264 elect to college votes, six shy of the magic 270 needed to win. in a fifth state, wisconsin, president trump demanding a recount after fox news projected joe biden the winner there. both sides are digging in very hard preparing to go to war in courtrooms from coast to coast. we've got the battle plans. with us tonight, jason chaffetz, jim trusty, congressman jim
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jordan along with joe concha, bobby jindal, congressman brian babin. here is the state of play right now. we're going to break it down with them. again we'll break down what the presidented needs to win the white house. we have for you tonight the really bad calls in the media. we're bringing you more on what we have been reporting about the polls. how they were off. we've got tonight how it was worse than realized is what was going on with the polls. we debate, are the media and the pollsters really that cut off from the country they're supposed to cover? we'll show you the worst calls of this election wacky. the media is cranking up the fear machine. should you believe it? a reports growing mutiny of democrats against nancy pelosi in order to remove her as house speaker. we'll name for you what media critics say is the biggest loser of the night. it is something that the media has been hammering away at more
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than a year. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. is. elizabeth: joining me now is jason chaffetz. former oversight committee chair. great to see you. congressman chaffetz is with us. the election is still in limbo. millions of mail-in ballots votes delayed the results. still too close to call in pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina and nevada. the president would need to take all of those in order to get their 57 electoral college votes to take back the white house. do you think he can do it? >> i think there is a distinct possibility. i also add to that list alaska should have been called a while ago in favor of the president, if you look at this senate numbers, i think as you go into those other states. i think the president will
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prevail, but i understand it is tight. there will be legal challenges. that is proper. that is right. that is the way to to to solve these issues but the the numbers are certainly pretty good for donald trump that way. although wisconsin and michigan to have those called in favor of joe biden, that's painful. elizabeth: okay. so biden takes wisconsin by less than 1%, just winning michigan. the trump campaign is demanding a recount in wisconsin and is trying to sue to stop counting in michigan before it is called. also filing a lawsuit in pennsylvania to stop the counting there. they want their monitors in there to watch the tabulation. former gop republican wisconsin governor scott walker, congressman, what did you think of scott walker saying in a tweet biden's lead in wisconsin is just too big. it is so big it will not be overturned in a recount. it is reportedly about 20,000 votes. what do you think of that call
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by scott walker there? >> well, he certainly knows wisconsin being the former governor there. but you know, it is within the margin, within the 1% that they are demanding a recount. i think they should do it. some of the top line numbers in the sheer number of voters and voter participation are very askew, very different than some of the others of the when you look to michigan, i mean we've seen videos, pictures coming out of detroit where poll watchers, and other observers, they're boarding up the windows so you can't even see what is going on there. that is highly suspicious. in a city that is kind of notorious for some shenanigans. the openness and transparency should be paramount. it is going the other direction. that adds fuel to the fire as to what in the world is actually going on with that count in michigan? elizabeth: interesting. you know, the, we've been
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covering how the biden campaign, their hopes have been resting on uncounted mail-in ballots to give him a surge, to put him over the top. state election officials keep saying in these states that those are leaning heavily democratic. of the estimated total vote in pennsylvania, nearly half, 45% are absentee mail-in ballots. the question is, is the math there for joe biden in pennsylvania or is it there for president trump because joe biden needs i think something like 3/4 of the 1.4 million mail-in ballots to be counted in order to wipe out trump's lead there, 675,000 votes? what do you think will happen in pennsylvania? >> yeah. when you have, when donald trump has a lead of nearly 700,000 votes and mail-in ballots will come in break in such a huge number for joe biden i don't know you can get from here to there. certainly the democrats have
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done well at the early mail-in balloting but to that number and that surge with so much of the percentage of the vote in pennsylvania, i again think it is highly suspicious. it is why you have legal eagles on the ground on behalf of donald trump there fighting to make sure that there is maximum transparency in a place like philadelphia that is, is again, known for some of its shen begans. earlier this year one of the election officials there in philadelphia was actually charged by the department of justice for trying to fix an election. they have a history of this. it's a recent one. elizabeth: okay. so you know, to your point, is the fight now about this? are you going to see, are you expecting the trump campaign to win a recount in one or more states, that is number one? also the fight is over this, what is a lawful ballot and what is not? here is the lay of the land in
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28 states, mail-in ballots, they have to be postmarked and received by the end of the election day in order for them to count. in 22 states, now, 22 states the ballots can be counted, mail-in ballots can be counted if postmarked by election day but counted up to certain days past the election day. so that is nearly half the states now we're seeing this. your thoughts on that? >> well, states are the drivers in setting rules, regulations and the laws by which these are governed. they're executed by counties. they're certified by states. it is not a federal process at this point. the one other -- it is a tough road for donald trump. he has to run the gamut on georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania but he also has got to go back at arizona and look at nevada. that is a tough road to do. when you have governor ducey, calm, cool collective customer, governor ducey is a well-respected person on both sides of the aisle, hey, no, we
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should be waiting despite what the fox news desk has called, that should give people some paws to say there are hundreds of thousands of votes yet to be counted in arizona. we really don't have exposure what is going on in nevada. so i think there is still optimism on the trump campaign side of the ledger. i think if you're joe biden, you are kind of in the driver's seat pulled off michigan and wisconsin. we'll see where those lawsuits go. elizabeth: okay. so you're saying, still question marks about arizona. the president does need to run the table on the rest of these four states being pennsylvania, north carolina, georgia and nevada. do you, do you think, they can pull it off? what is your, what are your odds there and what are your odds on the president and trump campaign taking this fight to the courts and winning? do you think it will go to the supreme court? >> you have to look at that state by state. some of those margins are going to be too big to surpass. i think the president clearly
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has a good lead in georgia. i think that's going to be strong for women. i think what is going on with senator tillis in north carolina, and the president, north carolina is good. he winning by hundreds of thousands of votes in pennsylvania. nevada and arizona, the president is upside down on the vote tally there but there are hundreds of thousands of votes yet to be counted. particularly there in arizona. again i would add, the president will also win in alaska. elizabeth: all right. jason chaffetz. come back soon. great to see you. >> thanks, liz. thanks. elizabeth: i have about the way we're bringing back on a special guest tomorrow night, scott walker. governor walker will be with us tomorrow on "the evening edit." we're going to talk to him about what he was saying about that uphill battle the president faces with recount in wisconsin. i'm going to break it down. also, coming up, former federal prosecutor jim trusty on the trump and biden teams now
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telling supporters to buckle up. court fights are coming over the vote count. so here's the question for you. will the 2020 race take as long as 2000, 37 days to decide the winner or are we going to know, will we know this week? what is the story there? we will find out. president trump: for the good of this nation, this is a very big moment. this is a major fraud on our nation. we want the law to be used in a proper manner. so we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court. we want all voting to stop. we don't want them to find any ballots at 4:00 in the morning to add them to the list. look limu! someone out there needs help customizing their car insurance with liberty mutual, so they only pay for what they need.
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♪. elizabeth: okay, let's welcome back to the show, former federal prosecutor jim trusty. he will talk to us about how trump and biden are telling supporters buckle up, prepare for a long drawn-out court fight. jim, great to see you. when will we know the winner? will there be court fights? people don't want election day to be election month. do you think there will be court fights over this? >> there will be but i don't expect it to drag on and on there are a number of practical
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and philosophical reasons for that. the courts are last group of people that want to resolve national elections. the supreme court is not waiting to have the phone ring to decide this election. that is the great irony democrats will probably win because of federalism and judicial conservism. what i mean by that, federal supreme court, local courts are not champing the bit as jason stated, voting is state and local one not federal function. that is the irony, federal courts may not want to touch any of this stuff. that is assuming you can build a sufficient record to present a case that goes up on appeal. elizabeth: i hear, you know, it is so interesting what you're saying because the fight is over this, it is, what happened in pennsylvania and north carolina, for example. that respectively the state
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court in pennsylvania and the state election board in north carolina allowed for the delay in counting the votes -- postmarked ballots for after the election. and you know, the constitutional fight is, is that the state legislatures decide who is, who is an elector and the electoral college vote set up by the u.s. constitution. so that is how it ends up in the supreme court. you wonder if justice barrett will be the fifth vote for that saying it's a state legislatures. it is not the courts. justice roberts and justice kagan are saying the courts are there to interpret the state legislatures and state constitutions. it says wonky and weanie, but you see how each state operates and to your point in terms of federalism, it is quite the turn around democrats benefiting from
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this. what do you think? >> look there, is a bunch of practical things that create problems for trump's team as well and one of them is, you have to establish a record, some sort of evidence. you can't be suspicion. a lot of people can say, boy, i hate the way milwaukee, detroit, fully, fulton county are terming this election but reality you have to have more than suspicion, more than just pointing out unintentional irregularities. you have to show what they call prejudice. you have to show harm to your campaign based on intentional irregularities. that is going to be uphill because again i think federalism dictates you let the state decide that. you don't let it bubble up to the supreme court unless there is something as outrageous what happened in bush v. gore with the florida supreme court where they overreached. i think it's a real hail mary at this point, even ex-35 dieted litigation i don't see it siding the election. elizabeth: we this other fight, you know how checks get trapped
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in the mail, did the vote get trapped in the mail? we have talk of hundreds of thousands of ballots trapped in the postal system. here is what happened, more than 65 million americans voted using mail-in ballots. 27 mail-in ballots were not counted of as a certain point yesterday. they flooded in. the post office is hammeredded by wait for it, justice emmet sullivan, the same judge on the general flynn case. why did you, postal system, blow off my 3:00 deadline for postal inspectors to see if there are problems in the postal system? in pennsylvania, the post office only delivered half of the ballots own time in central pennsylvania, in philadelphia, 48% of the ballots were delivered on time. we're tracking, you know, problems with delays in the postal system for delivering the ballots, for states that counted, for, wait for it, 77
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electoral college votes. we're talking about states including georgia, pennsylvania, north carolina. so your reaction to how this is going to play out? >> well, the judge's instincts to worry about the postal service may be well born but how he lands himself as kind of the arbiter of all things on this election is kind of amazing to me. you know i think the postal service's response probably we're a little busy to be dealing with you as self-appointed monitor for the u.s. postal service. look there is a lot that will be chalked up to kind of institutional shortcomings for things like the postal service, that still probably doesn't give rise to a successful lawsuit in either federal court or state court. so we tolerate a lot of negligence. the intentional stuff creates problems. elizabeth: do you think the trump campaign can move forward on this front, that the problems also, with the post office is hitting the ballots for the
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president? i mean, you know, i hear what you're saying about judge sullivan. he said you know, if astronauts can vote from outer space and then we've got the vote trapped in the postal system, do you think that the trump team can make hay with that? >> i think it's a hail mary. honestly i don't see that having a lot of traction. not that it is factually untrue. it is fair game what is going on in today's world we should track things cleanly. should meet deadlines very clearly but the absence of that performance isn't necessarily the type of constitutional-based violation that lets, lets the courts weigh in and overturn the otherwise valid results. elizabeth: okay. great to see you. jim trusty. see you again. great having you back on? >> see you, liz. elizabeth: next up, were you given the right information? were you given the right information about the state of the race, about polls? coming on next, is how judiciary
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ranking republican jim jordan. he will take on the really bad calls in the media, like this one, that a blue wave would come crashing over washington. didn't happen. look at this, there is another story, a growing mutiny by democrats against nancy pelosi. they want to remove pell as house nancy pelosi as house speaker and put in another democrat. jim jordan. >> we continue to grow our majority, much different every pundit said we would lose average of 15 to 20 seats. we know that is not true. we already have seven seats, with another 11 we're winning right now. we see [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] ♪ uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right?
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♪. elizabeth: okay. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. you're watch being the fox business network. with me now, is house judiciary ranking republican. he is jim jordan. congressman, so great to have you back on. there are major problems with polling -- we're tracking, we've been reporting on the major problem with polling in american politics. is it misleading voters? because they were saying that a blue wave would come crashing over washington. was barely a whipple. yesterday was not the blowout victory that nate silver and
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other forecasters predicted for democrats. what are your thoughts on this? >> liz, it may not be misleading t may be intentional. when you get it wrong this much, you do it cycle after cycle it may be intentional. stop and think for a second, same media, mainstream press who lies to us everything single day about the president, attacks conservatives and republicans every single day, might the same media sponsors a poll, might they mislead us on a poll as well? we have to get past the idea, it is shy trump voter. i am sure that is some of it. i think some of this stuff is intentional to suppress the conservative vote, suppress the republican vote, suppress the pro-trump vote. that is wrong, when pollsters in bed with the mainstream media, part of the big tech party, and that is what we're up against. despite all that, we will keep
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senate. picked up seats in the house. if i think count all legitimate votes, president trump gets reelected. elizabeth: polls in ohio and texas had biden winning states but trump won them. quinney pack, these are traditional polls. real clear battle ground average had states going for joe biden too. they were wrong, they were off. >> yeah. elizabeth: when you say the results are being manipulated, do you mean that maybe that they're oversampling democrats, not even sampling with republicans in these polls and not really explaining that to the viewer and reader of the poll? >> well, remember, they weren't just off. they were completely wrong. take ohio, take our state, the president wound up winning our state by over eight points. 8.2. almost same he won it four years ago yet they had the race even or had biden winning in ohio going into election day.
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you have polls off by 10%age points. probably a host of things but do not dismiss the fact they could be intentionally misleading us because they're in bed with the democrats, they're in bed with the mainstream press, they want the democrats to win. i'm sure part of it is they're oversampling. part of it is shy trump vote but part of it is they're intentionally trying to suppress conservative and trump votes. that is why they give us faulty polls. elizabeth: we hear what you're saying. there is no indication they're working together to do that. we just don't have that information yet but you have reason to question about it. >> no -- elizabeth: when you look, let me get to this quickly, we'll get to -- >> sure. elizabeth: not one of the polls dating back to february showed that senator susan collins, republican of maine would win. she is now won decisively. >> right. elizabeth: those polls were way off there too, congressman. your thoughts? >> exactly. i'm not saying it is
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intentional. we have to at least think about it being intentional, when you're off this wrong and wrong this often, you have to at least ask the question. it sort of logical to say, wait a minute, the same, the same media outlets who attack the president, who mislead, information about the president. who mislead the american people all the time, might they also be supportive of a poll misleading itself? so i think that is a legitimate question. that is fair question to ask. seems like evidence pointing in that direction. elizabeth: we have moderate democrats in the house, they're now privately talking about a plan that was unthinkable just 24 hours earlier. "the hill" magazine reporting that they're talking about a challenger, democrat challenger to replace house speaker nancy pelosi. to remove nancy pelosi from her post as house speaker. they're talking about hakeem jeffries of new york. one of nancy pelosi's lieutenants. do you think that will happen? >> you know, who knows what
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happens on the democrat party. i mean they have adopted some of the most radical positions i have ever seen. some of the mows crazy left positions american people have already witnessed. who knows what will happen there i heard hakim often times mentioned as next leader for the democrats in the house of representatives. i know we have a good night in the house. looks like we'll pick up more seats than declared. great women conservative candidates, hispanic-american candidates won for us. >> stay on that for a second. donna shalala lost. maria salazar. >> wonderful. elizabeth: kim klacik lost. elizabeth: your thoughts on donna shalala losing to maria salazar. >> a new coalition, working-class people, african-americans, hispanic people, support policies of republican party and policy of president trump.
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that is a great thing for our party. a number of good candidates we ran, wound up winning. i think we'll pick up seats and even more t was a good night for the house. the fact we kept the senate. all the pollsters said we were going to lose as well. that didn't happen. like i said, i think if we count all the legitimate ballots, i want to count every single legitimate ballot. when you do that, the president will win georgia. he will win north carolina. will win pennsylvania. ahead in all three states and win in arizona. elizabeth: congressman jim jordan, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. just ahead "the hill" media reporter joe concha. we're staying on another bad call for the media. we'll tell you what it is. can you guess what it is? back in two. >> they were wrong again in this election just like they were wrong four years ago. there has never been accountability for these people. most of them should be fired to
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♪. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show "the hill" media reporter joe concha. joe always great to have you on. now we know there is a lot of blarney and a lot of hyperbole in election races and all of that. it was concerning though how often and how frequently the media predicted a biden blowout. that there was going to be a total biden landslide and an early night. but got it really wrong. when you saw that what was your first reaction? >> i remember james carville, the rage incajun on msnbc, said the race will be called by 10:00 p.m. guaranteed it. i went back and looked at his 2016 prediction, he said donald trump would not only lose but drop out before the race but if he stayed in it would be a landslide. stop listening to people who
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continually get elections wrong. that might be a good start. the pollsters are as, i don't know, antiquated as my vrc and y answering machine. in other words way we poll people, used to be easy, land lined, you pick up, that was the only phone. maybe you have a landline but a cell phone. you text a lot. there is email. a thousand different ways people communicate. i don't think pollsters have adapted to the new technology. it is not new anymore. why the last two elections things have gone so badly. let me give you a couple stats, here, elizabeth. nate silver, 538, will get the jets to win super bowl because he is getting everything right these days, he said democrats had 75% chance of taking back the senate and 85% chance joe biden would win presidency. it would be a landslide. he gets that wrong. joe biden "new york times" said joe biden had 70% chance of
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winning florida. the president won by three points. i could go on and on. "new york times" predicted joe biden would win by 10. that is within one point. would win iowa by 10. president won that by seven. would win iowa by nine. president won that by eight. you see what i'm getting at here. doesn't matter what the poll is, cnn had biden up 12 going into election night. everybody got this wrong. not just a little wrong. i get if you're off a point or two but we're talking 10 points, in terms of probability a lot. look, we have to stop as news organizations as breaking news stories, first story the lead, we're going with this poll came out and it says this. enough. the american people don't trust it. and certainly people on the right don't trust it based on what we've seen over the last two elections, elizabeth. elizabeth: joe, so given everything that you just said how much does that dampen, does that act to the downside to the voter who may say you know what, i'm not going to go out and
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vote? if this is how it is for the other guy, my vote will not matter? what is the fallout in terms of that? >> you have to wonder about that right, elizabeth? when people see that president trump is going to lose by, let's say you're in wisconsin, for instance, right? abc news and "washington post," who very major news organizations been around for a long time say that the president is going to lose wisconsin by 17 points. that was their final poll in that state. then you say, you know what? this thing is hopeless. forget the about it. i don't say everybody says that. a lot of people don't trust polls. 17 points, that is insurmountable. maybe that is enough to dampen enough votes to make a difference in the badger state where as we've seen the difference is relatively razor thin? again, i think we just have, i don't say retire pollsters but the american people have to say you know what the? i reject this, put pressure on
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news organizations stop featuring these people. frank luntz said, he is republican pollster. he said the results were devastating to his industry. you have to learn five words if you're pollster. do you want fries with that? i worked at a job like that. doesn't pay as much as a pollster. elizabeth: we see what you're saying. we saw in 2012 miscounting of the black vote. talk about that. they were we saw in 2016 there was a question about who the polls were sampling. were they oversampling democrats, under sampling republicans. now we see pollsters getting criticized for missing the so-called shy trump voter who doesn't want to talk about who he or she is voting for because they get threatened and harassed. you wonder, final question, joe, how do pollsters get around that, fix problems around their own polls? do you triangulate, say to the person you're polling who are your social contacts who are
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your families, who will friend vote for, do you friend think will win. you get a sense this is shy trump voter. i don't know how you fix the problem. i really don't. >> i don't either. i've never been polled in my life. i don't know you are. if i'm getting those questions, who do you think your friends vote for, who do you vote, click. i don't want to share the information. i guess you have to start changing the sampling. there is far too much sampling of democrat or soon to be democrat voters. you have to adjust it the way rasmussen does, add two or three points based on shy vote. work math into the equation. maybe you get more to an accurate answer at this point but this is a failure of epic proportions we saw last night. elizabeth: they seasonally adjust the jobs numbers. maybe some adjustment for the polls. it is interesting.
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joe, you were taking on a tough subject there you always break it down so wonderfully. we appreciate you coming back on. good to appreciate we appreciate you. >> pleasure is always on this side of the microphone. elizabeth: thank you. governor bobby jindal is pushing back on another issue that the media is saying. we'll break down what that is. what they're talking about, a peaceful transfer of power. will it happen? will there be a peaceful transfer of power or not? is the media right or wrong? bobby jindal next. >> the courts will decide disputes. that is the way we do it in this country. having close, disputed elections is not unusual. it happens all the time. you work hard for your money. stretched days for it. juggled life for it. took charge for it.
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candidate, he is governor bobby jindal. so there is lots of talk ramping up now about the issue that we may not have a peaceful transfer of power based on the specter of postelection legal fights that the president is putting up his dukes fast right now, trying to sue to stop pennsylvania and michigan from doing the vote count. what do you think is going to happen? >> liz, first of all thank you for almost round-the-clock coverage. you must be living on caffeine. you've been staying up to cover the election. thank you for doing that for all of us. three quick thoughts on this the media has been talking even before the election this is a way for them to delegitimatize, disrespect president trump but his supporters. you know that is true because of how one-sided this is. secondly they talk about conservatives, they never talk about the violence from the left, even before the election there were news reports in boston, liberal protesters saying they would harass political officials from the other side, conservatives would harass them at their churches, temples. you remember they harassed
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people like sarah sanders when xi went with her family to restaurants they were cheered by the media. of course there will be a peaceful transfer of power. i'm still hopeful president trump will win not only in pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina, that he will flip arizona back to win this election. whatever the results are, he has every right to go to the courts. listen what he is saying in a closely contested election i want to make sure the court follow the rules, follow the laws passed by their own legislators. that is legal process. that is not a violent protest. whatever the results will be, i assume doug jones will peacefully transfer his seat to the coach in alabama. i assume all house democrats assume they lost will peacefully transfer offices. if it becomes necessary i absolutely believe that the white house, that trump would also peacefully transfer if that becomes necessary. hope it didn't. of course we have centuries of experience in this country this is us why the media again trying
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to delegitimatize and discredit conservatives. elizabeth: you know, fox news is reporting as of right now, justice department officials are not commenting on if the justice department will file or join in any election-related cases. i guess the issue is this, debate is this, you know, delays in the vote count past election day, does that undermine the legitimacy and integrity of elections and the vote counts? what do you think? >> in a couple things in a perfect world we would have results more quickly. we wouldn't have the delays. it shouldn't take that long. it doesn't bother me if they're counting votes. it takes longer to count votes. i don't want them for people to vote after election day. trump was right. he went to court even before election day, the states should follow rules set by their own legislators. you don't with to have judges, don't want these officials, unelected or appointed elected officials making their own
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rules. the state legislators passed these laws. if they wanted to change laws due to covid they had several months to do that. some states did. some states elected not to do that. it doesn't bother me taking longer to count. people shouldn't be allowed not allowed to vote after election day. elizabeth: counting postmarked ballots, ballots post marked yesterday. the issue, letting them vote after election day, election month. governor jindal. thank you so much. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: coming up, texas congressman brian babin. okay we're going to take on what the media has been hammering away at and now what they have been talking about, this topic, this issue, it's clearly the biggest loser last night. can you guess what that is? come on, just try and guess. back in two.
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♪. elizabeth: okay, let's welcome back texas representative. he is republican brian babin. congressman, great to see you. here's the story. it is great to see you. the media has been hammering away at a very sensitive topic. it has to do with the section of identity politics. it has to do with race.
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you know we heard for a long time that the president is quote, racist. that is is misogynistic. you see the exit polls, the president did pretty well with female voters and did well with black voters and has panic voters. when you saw that story, the critics are saying identity politics, so-called identity politics is the biggest loser in this race so far. what do you think? >> i agree 100%. i think that, this is one of the biggest, democrats constantly play the race card. you know, they try to sow dissension between the races, the sexes, the nationalities. this is one of their biggest modus operandi if you will. i think this was, this was an utter failure. i think the american people are stick and tired of the race card. they're sick and tired of identity politics. and i think it was proven out by
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the turnout and people who voted for donald j. trump. now he is, he is behind in the electoral vote count right now but i can tell you that millions and millions of diverse americans went out and voted for this president in spite of the never ceasing, 100%, 24 hours a day, seven days a week criticism and demonizing this man. and i think it was disproven. let me say one other thing. we have, every seat, every democrat seat that was flipped by one of our republican candidates was flipped by a female, by a minority or a veteran. and so i can tell you that the gop is more diverse now, this is a historically diverse class that will be coming in the 117th congress. this race is not over yet. elizabeth: interesting. >> this race is not over yet for the presidency. elizabeth: you know, the exit
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polls show that one out of five black men voted for president trump. that is up from one out of seven four years ago. his support among hispanics, 32%. that is higher than where it stood, where that stood four years ago. you know, the, just endured for the last six months, congressman, you know listening to the debate about systemic racism in america, you know about you know, what was going on throughout the protests and riots and u.s. regulatory system is racist. the u.s. foreign policy is racist. u.s. tax policy is inherently racist. and so when you hear that, when you hear the systemic racism argument. you hear people out there saying, you u.s. is not systematically racist, where, what do you think about that
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debate? you, go ahead, take that on? >> not at all. this country does not have systemic racism. we herd that nonsense about the police departments being systematically racist, the gop systematically racist. these are the types of things that are just parroted by the hard left and the radical wing of the democratic party which seems to be in control of that party and it just simply is not true. and, you know, we have seen over and over again that the american people are sick and tired of this, and, that, they want, they want their leaders to start pulling together. they don't want to be divided. i hear that all the time. there are people that are angry. i will tell you this, there are some angry people out there about being called chumps and deplorables because they supported president trump. they were republicans or decided to vote republican. i think this is backfiring on
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the, on the biden presidency and on their candidates for senate and for the, for the house. we picked up five seats. we have several pending. i think we're going to hang on to the senate. this race ain't over yet. president trump is a fighter. we want to see a transparent process about these vote counting. elizabeth: we hear you on that. you know what is interesting too, final word, cnn's own poll found a plurality of americans said the economy is the number one issue for them. racial issues distance behind second place. final word, congressman, we have got to go. i'm proud to be an american. americans came out voted for this president, it, he may cam may come up short. it better be honest election. i trust in god, i don't trust democrats always. we want to see some proof. we want to have people counting
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votes on, from both sides so we know exactly what is going on. elizabeth: got it. congressman. to come tomorrow, u dobbs tonight the" starts right now. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. it has lou: good evening everybody it has been almost 24 hours since the first polls of yesterday closed and we still don't know whether president trump or joe the election, at this hour, joe biden is oeading president trump by 264 electoral college votes to 214, 270 needed to win, there are five battleground states that are still counting mail-in ballots, that could yet to the scales toward either candidate. just a half% separate president
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