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charles: prime the pump, prime the pump, prime the pump. the bank of england did it today. we know the ecb is going to do it. jay powell and company. everyone is banking on you. our viewers bank on you, too. thank you very much. always appreciate your help. we are doing pretty good here, folks. the market rallying yet again. four strong days in a row. liz claman, making up the lost ground of last week. almost all the indices positive, near all-time highs. liz: i know. it's unbelievable. folks, we've got multiple plates spinning in the air as we kick off the final hour of trade gains, with the presidency hanging in the balance, we are now in day four of the bull run blitz. investors voting with their wallets and look at this on the screen. remain undaunted by the lawsuit lists swirling around the 2020 presidential election. dow jones industrials up 587. it's the nasdaq that just hit session highs. we are up 328 points. the s&p clocking 80 points to the upside here. all right. put it on your screen.
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chairman of the federal reserve jerome powell is right now explaining why his committee has left near zero rates untouched. our fed panel is monitoring every single word of what he sees and says as far as stresses on the economic system. speaking of stress, tensions are still running high from arizona to pennsylvania. this video just in as crowds form in two states, where the administration is launching vigorous challenges. all right, here's the current electoral picture vote. we've got four states, the key to the presidency. nevada, pennsylvania, georgia and north carolina. they are still up for grabs on the path to 270. biden leading 264 to president trump's 214. we've got new numbers in nevada showing that joe biden's lead has expanded to 12,000 as team trump seeks legal action there. but keep your eye on the dow and on the markets here because we've got team fox business standing by with up to the
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minute developments inside both the trump and biden campaigns. blake burman live at the white house and hillary vaughn is in wilmington, delaware. we will start with blake at the moment, where the white house has turned the fire hose on and specifically the trump campaign pointing legal actions in multiple states, somewhere i guess the president wants the ballot counting to stop and others where he's demanding the counting to continue. what are you hearing? reporter: a lot going on. let's start in the state of nevada because there was an announcement there by the trump campaign today, a press conference saying they intend to be filing lawsuits in that state. as they want to be able to get a better access to oversee the ballot counting process in that state. similarly, shift all the way east to another state of utmost importance to that campaign and that is pennsylvania. the trump campaign there actually won a lawsuit or won a court battle earlier this morning allowing them to get closer to the ballot counting processes. however, the trump campaign is saying at this point that what
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is happening in pennsylvania still is unsatisfactory to them. as for the president himself, he is continuing to claim that the election can be illegally won. here is what he said in part today. he said quote, if you count the legal votes i easily win the election. if you count the illegal and late votes, they can steal the election from us. listen to the campaign legal adviser within the past hour. >> this is all about election integrity, charles. the president just issued a statement that said if you count every legal ballot, i easily win the election. if you count illegal and late ballots, they can steal the election from us. that is exactly it. it is all about election integrity. reporter: liz, the president tweeted out today at one point quote, stop the fraud. he also tweeted out stop the count. it is important to remember at this point that the trump campaign for all of the talks they have made and the lawsuits that have followed, the trump campaign to this point has not yet provided evidence of widespread voter fraud.
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by the way, on to the campaign for a second, they are still very confident about what will happen when all is said and done in arizona. they are also very confident about pennsylvania and they believe the president and vice president will cross 270 by week's end. liz? liz: okay. we are watching all of it. from blake we go to hillary in wilmington, delaware, where she's camped out at the biden headquarters and has biden campaign reaction. i guess to all the team trump legal wranglings. reporter: that's right. the biden campaign did respond to that, essentially saying they think it's just a ruse, a political point to try to delay and distract from these vote tallies that we're getting in intermittently from states that have not been called. there are signs today biden is back to business as usual, at least for the moment. he's in downtown wilmington right now, getting a routine briefing with his running mate, senator kamala harris, on covid
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and the economy. the campaign says these are the same briefings that have been a part of his normal routine since march, so the return to normal is a sign that biden is very comfortable and confident with where he stands. he stopped just short yesterday of giving a victory speech but did say he believes he will be the winner once all the votes are counted. the campaign today, though, is slamming those lawsuits that the trump campaign has filed in key battleground states like pennsylvania. >> the lawsuits are meritless. they are intended to give the trump campaign the opportunity to argue that the vote count should stop. it is not going to stop. i have gone through some of the silliness behind these claims momentarily but i want to emphasize for their purposes, these lawsuits don't have to have merit. that's not the purpose, is not to bring bona fide claims before the court. it is to create an opportunity for them to message falsely about what's taking place in the electoral process.
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reporter: liz, on what blake mentioned about what the trump campaign is calling a massive victory in pennsylvania, in their court battle to try to get their campaign representative closer to observe the actual ballots being counted, the biden campaign perspective on that is that they really don't care how close the trump campaign gets to the workers that are processing these ballots and counting the votes. they just want to make sure that the votes are counted. liz? liz: hillary, keep us posted. we will go right back to you if there are any developments. same with blake. in just a moment, we need to tell you we are going to take you live to nevada, where ballots are still being tabulated as we speak. speaking of as we speak, we got fed chair jerome powell just issuing a warning as covid cases in the u.s. clock a single day jump of 100,000. he's taking questions from reporters right now. that's what you are seeing on your screen.
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with regard to interest rates, we continue to expect it will be appropriate to maintain the current zero to one quarter percent target until market conditions have reached levels consistent with the committee's assessments of maximum employment and inflation has risen to 2% and is on track to moderately exceed 2% for some time. liz: that was the good news. federal reserve chair jerome powell just weighed in on how the fed plans to keep interest rates low for quite some time until, of course, the criteria for the labor market inflation is reached. let's bring in our experts. nat alliance securities' andy brenner and global co-head of economics, michelle gerard. to you first. what jumped out at you here? he is continuing to beat the
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drum saying we need stimulus, we need stimulus, and you are looking at the stock market and looking at a recovering economy and thinking, at least i'm thinking, do we really need that injection of a sugar high at this moment? >> well, you could see that even the fed chair was, when asked about why wouldn't you provide perhaps more stimulus, you know, you see him suggesting that they are quite comfortable with the current stance of monetary policy. i think that there's been -- the question was raised if we're unlikely to get as much fiscal stimulus as perhaps the market had thought given the fact we will still have a divided congress, might that mean the federal reserve has to step up and do more, and you can just continue to see the fed chairman suggesting that at the moment, they are quite comfortable with their current level of purchases, they are not looking, if they need to, of course, they will monitor and make
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adjustments, but there's nothing in anything they are seeing that makes them think this is the time that the federal reserve needs to be thinking about doing more asset purchases like we saw, for example, the bank of england announce today. liz: yeah. andy, one of the things that jumped out at me, we teased this, we said he is issuing the warning and the warning is about the coronavirus. he said he is very concerned that more stimulus will be needed and we are indeed seeing a spike. we just clocked a one-day jump of 100,000 new cases and he sees something on the horizon that really is disconcerting to him. >> there's no question about it, liz. i think even europe is in worst shape. but you know, the reality is the fed since march 15th has bought $1.9 trillion of treasuries. money supply since march 16th is running at a 32% annualized rate. the fed's balance sheet over the last year, year over year, is up
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74%, 75%. it's not like the fed's not doing stuff. they are doing stuff that sometimes takes some time to get through. i think the fed is very much on it. they are still all in. i don't really see a lot of new programs that they are going to do. the 13.3 programs have worked at least for corporates but they really haven't used very much of them. i think they should fine-tune all of them and try to make those better. but yes, i don't see where it needs fiscal stimulus but we are going to get it regardless, so we might as well live with it and see what happens. it's going to ruin the dollar but i guess that's something we just have to live with. liz: yeah. the dollar has certainly gotten weaker but michelle, we were just showing intraday, the dow, the s&p and -- not intraday, one week, the one-week picture is stunning. equities are on a charge so nothing seems to be shaking this market right now. what do you make of that? >> well, i continue to think
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that the market has focused on the potential for the federal reserve or monetary policy having to do more rather than fiscal policy stepping up. there was concern that you might have had a huge -- much more expansion in fiscal policy which could have put upward pressure on interest rates. now you've got a situation where that threat seems to be less and the market is saying okay, we're back to this world that we're used to, that we like, where it's really more about monetary policy, if we need more, the fed will keep rates lower for longer, they will shift and buy more assets. one of the things, all of the purchases they have made, you talked about how big the balance sheet is, all of it has not really been about getting the economy up. they all couched these purchases in the context of market functioning. they haven't yet stepped up to say we are actually buying more
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assets to boost the economy. so again, if that's on the horizon now that we are not going to get fiscal stimulus, i think that's something that contributes to the rising asset prices. liz: andy, you've got to interpret something i am seeing right this moment in the markets. number one, the vix or fear index is plummeting. we see it dropping about 6%. it was down yesterday. so there appears to be a calm, cool, collected attitude among at least the futures traders in the fed funds futures pits here. we've got the volatility at 27.76 and yet the ten-year yield overnight dropped to i believe it was your key resistance level of .72%, which to me is a screaming fear trade, is it not? interpret that. >> liz, there's a lot of stuff going on. a lot of cross-currents. there are a lot of trades that have been put on on the expectation that it would be a
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true blue wave and even though the senate still seems to be a little bit in doubt, i still see it going republican. i think that is that fear turning around. there are huge shorts out there, there are lots that got flushed out. you went from 76 down to, i don't know, 56, you had the ten-year, believe it or not, election eve got to 94 basis points and as you just said, it just got to 72 less than 48 hours later. i mean, there's a lot of just bad trades that are getting -- basically getting out. people that were short treasuries, people that were short the nasdaq 100. they are all clamoring to get back to where they were. i think this is going to end in a few days. i really don't think these are sustaining trades that we are seeing the last four days. liz: okay. because we've got --
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>> did i explain it? liz: a very tense situation with the presidential election, michelle. biden leads right now with, of course, with electoral college votes and president trump is behind and yet there are all kinds of lawsuits that we have talked about. let's just say this thing drags on. what does that do to markets and the overall investment picture, with biden at 264 and trump at 214? >> well, i think you're right, you know. we just referenced the fact that the senate is undecided. i think for the markets for awhile now, the key has been about the outcome of the senate and whether or not you would have a united government or not is hugely important for the markets. the way it's looking, it might come down to the two races in georgia and both of those may end up not being decided until early january. so we may not get the answer definitively until january. so it could drag out.
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but i think we come back to the expectation that markets do have that probably the senate will stay in republican hands and as a result, you do have this divided government. i think at the moment, markets are not viewing the legal challenges as having significant merit and so in the end, there's this conclusion that you are likely to have a little bit of a status quo. we're not going to get the massive fiscal stimulus that perhaps treasury markets had been concerned about and in that sense, i do think while we have uncertainty, there's a grounding here in terms of the markets keeping things sort of calm that we think we -- liz: michelle -- >> -- are going to have a divided government again and that will make a big difference in terms of the outlook. liz: michelle and andy, thank you. michelle just mentioned georgia. we need to take you live to georgia, where we have an
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official speaking right now. if we can take that shot. we can listen in for just a moment. we do know the trump campaign had lost at least one election lawsuit after two witnesses called by republicans admitted under oath they didn't have evidence of late ballots being mingled with on-time ballots. let's listen in. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> there is a possibility. now, the likelihood is not all 8,000 is going to show up. i understand with the close nature of especially the presidential race, those could become vital and important. but there is a cut-off time. that's why we have laws. that's why we have certification times. the reason that we have those is so we can get to an ending. as i stated before, we have to certify this election by november 20th because under law, we have to get the federal run-off ballots or the senate run-offs out by saturday the 21st. so we can't have anything get in
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the way of our timelines on this. so it's going to be difficult for us to make it as it is. our poll workers, election directors, election staff, center for elections, they are going to be putting in a lot of long hours to bring democracy to people in georgia. reporter: -- time line on provisional numbers, when we might have a sense. >> the only one we have right now is because we [ inaudible ] 3900. i don't have an answer. we are working to get a handle on how many they have. obviously they have to be cured or verified by tomorrow. i don't know the codes on any of these. right now, i really put a lot of work into the elections directors right now to answer questions. that's one i will leave for a little later. i would like to know the answer but they are really focusing on getting the last ballots done. reporter: can you briefly sum up and recast the difference between this morning [ inaudible ] that have taken place? >> frankly, i don't remember the number i gave this morning. i think it was 62,000. we are a little over 47,000 now.
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but there's changes even inside that number. the numbers from the one scanner, absentee and in person. while i have everybody here, just to clear a few things up, people get confused. early voting, they go online and look for it, early voting, in person, is what they call absentee in person. that is what they have done. they voted absentee in person. i know there's confusion out there. i want to clear that up. we feel like we are in a very good position to have most of it done, heck, we've got most of it done now. we are down to the final percent or so which when a race is this close, obviously everybody wants to know when's it going to be over. we have certification deadlines. reporter: what answer do you have for the president who keeps insinuating [ inaudible ] in this process? >> my short answer in this state, with these elections directors, they are doing the best to make sure every legal vote is counted and the outcome will be whatever the voters of
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georgia have chosen. we will have an audit so we all know the outcome is correct. hold on. what was that? reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i'm not sure. i have to get back to you. my assumption is probably end of business day. it's not going to be midnight because we have to have people operate on regular business hours. reporter: where is the secretary of state? >> he's in meetings trying to keep up with a lot of this stuff right now. i'm the numbers guy. i can talk about some of this stuff. like the jacket, by the way. reporter: [ inaudible ] you can see whether or not it's been accepted or not, [ inaudible ]? >> there's no paper trail to go back because under the state constitution of georgia there's a private vote. in an absentee ballot we have a secrecy sleeve around that. once it is verified as having come in -- liz: you are listening to the
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georgia chief operating officer of the secretary of state. just basically updating what's going on. president trump still holds a very slim lead, about a 13,000 vote lead, with 98% of the vote counted. he also said that the counting of all ballots should be completed within ten days. so folks, that should tell you a lot. we will not have clarity at the moment because when it is this close, and ballots are still being counted, this clearly will be stretching on. we've got a protracted situation in georgia. we are going to check in with nevada in just a moment. but look at the markets. undaunted, unshaken. not even stirred. right? james bond situation. we have the dow jones industrials up 571 points. we'll be right back.
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liz: all right. breaking news. we have just heard that the trump administration, the trump campaign, is going to add a news conference at around 4:30 p.m. eastern time in phoenix, arizona. of course, arizona has been called by the fox news decision desk for biden. however, the trump administration and the campaign are basically saying they will challenge that. they feel that there are all kinds of issues there. we will be watching that 4:30 p.m. eastern. we've got this fox business market alert. the nasdaq and the transports. you want to talk about a slim margin of gains here. they are dead even in percentage spikes. you've got the nasdaq up 2.63%. the transports, parabolic as well, up 2.63%. in the aggregate, over the past four days, the nasdaq has jumped 9%. we need to look at general motors. have you seen this? it's moving higher and it's also moving nikola's stock higher after gm's ceo mary barra said
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the company is still in talks for a deal with the electric vehicle maker. gm getting a boost as well after it posted better than expected quarterly profit. china sales growing 12%. that's the first pop in sales in the economic powerhouse in two years. 5% gain for gm and 8.5% gain for nikola, now jumping through the $20 a share ceiling. gm underscoring the tale of two chinas. alibaba and delio trading lower at this moment. alibaba beat estimates for quarterly revenue but profit was down 60% year over year, that revenue driven by china emer emergence from the coronavirus lockdown. the stock down about 2%. that should have been beneficial for canada goose as it says china demand drove a surprise quarterly profit but it warned of a hit to sales in europe for its high end parkas and look at it. it is flat at the moment.
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it had been higher. canada goose right now paring those gains. capri holdings, this is a nice move, up 9.5%. they said luxury sales are on the rebound after reporting that sales were above expectations along with earnings besting estimates. and check the switch-up in the gaming sector at this hour. mobile game maker zinga dropping despite narrowing third quarter losses, a revenue beat and after hitting a record number of users, as analysts say the fourth quarter may look a little light. it's down 7.6%. the stock is up 49% year to date. nintendo, opposite. moving higher by about 6.5%. trading is jumping after the company tripled profit and hiked its forecast for sales of the switch console which i got to demo right there back in 2017. switch has been a huge, huge win.
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speaking of stocks on the move, let's take a look at the biggest pop of all at this hour. qualcomm. qualcomm is spiking at this hour, the chip maker riding the 5g wave to a new record high. after reporting fourth quarter sales and earnings beat estimates. to cheryl casone, because you know, this all brings in the question about smart phones, apple iphone 12, there's so many different stories that weave into this. cheryl: qualcomm is winning on so many fronts, to your point. 5g, a five-star rating for qualcomm. investors as you mentioned jumping into the stock today amid the broader rally for the market. they reported fiscal fourth quarter numbers and revenue from chip sets for smart phones rose 38% to nearly $5 billion. the guidance eye-popping, though. that's really what i think shot the stock up. qualcomm is going to benefit from the launch of the new iphone 12 model, a return for the company after a year-long court battle. it was settled last year.
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qualcomm's forecast well above expectations. they also solved a dispute with huawei and a federal appeals court turned down a request over antitrust concerns so qualcomm has been the winner. the tide is lifting all boats here. take a look at first trust nasdaq semiconductor etf. look at that shot right there. strong performance, 4.5%. txl got an 8.8% stake and the ishares txls, 8.2% stake in qualcomm. this is really moving this. speaking of iphones, the iphone 12 pro max, the iphone 12 mini, all of that will be actually available to order this friday. get the credit card out. liz: those are major gains. 4.5%. i was just looking at apple, because if you look at how it's done over the past week, this
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was, i believe, around $108 a share. $112. it's now at $118.80. again, there you go. nice move for apple. another 3.33%. thank you. good to see you. check the dow. we are up 518. the latest count out of nevada is raising hopes for biden supporters and one member on that list is wall street be behemoth larry fink. charlie gasparino has new information on what the black rock ceo and potential treasury secretary contender is saying right now about the election which is still very much in a state of flux. charlie breaks it, with 26 minutes to go before the closing bell rings. we'll be right back. this is decision tech. find a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions.
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counting areas obviously, the very biggest here. you can see workers in the yellow vests, things look calm, cool and collected but there has been a pretty dramatic backdrop here. mail-in counting was briefly temporarily halted due to litigation. an appeals court in pennsylvania ordered that the trump campaign officials be allowed to observe these ballot counters within six feet. so we are getting all kinds of headlines. we just want to keep you and your fingers on the pulse of what's going on. speaking of pulse, the markets look very strong. even with all the election drama, wall street has its feet up, it's kicking back with a diet mountain dew. wait, no, that was me last night. never mind. if wall street were a person, it would be doing that. certainly not sweating all the breaking news. with stocks in surge mode, let's get to charlie, who joins us with what one of the top names in the financial industry is saying about i guess the near future, charlie? charlie: mountain dew, do they still make that stuff?
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liz: no. i was kidding. charlie: did you find it on ebay? from 1975? liz: they make mountain dew. not diet. charlie: that stuff is horrible. for a health freak like you, i can't believe you drink that. in any event, here's what we are getting from larry fink. larry fink is a ceo of blackrock. why is he important? blackrock is the biggest money manager in the world. it dwarfs all these wall street firms. it has something like $8 trillion under management. i mean, this thing is big, it's as big in a different way as jpmorgan chase is big in terms of a bank. larry fink runs the biggest investor in the world, maybe the world will ever see. it's blackrock. the other reason why he's important is he's a prominent wall street democrat. his name is always in the news as possibly being treasury secretary. he's said recently he doesn't want to do this right off the bat, it's unclear if biden wants
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him, president biden who is likely to be president despite the contested, some of the contested results. but here's what larry is saying when it comes to the election, which is now -- which looks like to be divided government if the gop as most indications show holds on to the senate. what he's saying is that this is very positive and he made these comments on wednesday to blackrock employees. this has not been reported before. sources close to the firm say he made those comments wednesday where he basically put a positive spin on divided government, saying this should help the markets and he also conceded what we have been talking about for awhile here. there is no blue wave, that progressivism has been stopped in its tracks, that biden is going to have to scale back some of his spending plans, instead of $2 trillion he's going to probably have to negotiate with the current and soon-to-be once
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again re-elected majority leader mitch mcconnell with the gop to scale back any stimulus plans, probably some of these tax increases that he planned, capital gains are probably going to be off the table. this is the message that larry fink gave to employees and he basically said listen, we are in the business of managing money. this is a very good time to be managing money, given what's coming down the pike likely from a legislative and fiscal agenda with a biden presidency and a republican congress. again, this is what he's saying right now. who knows what happens in the future. clearly, wall street agrees with that assessment. a couple other things he said, which i found fascinating. he's confident that the markets will remain resilient and believes that a covid vaccine as well as effective treatments will be ready -- more effective treatments will be ready by the second quarter of 2021. he thinks that therapies will
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work. he also cited the falling death rates of covid. i find that fascinating. we are reading a lot that covid is still spreading, there are more people dying obviously of it, but larry fink, who, you know, his business is based on trying to figure out, you know, this pandemic which impacts markets, it impacts the economy, put a positive spin on it. he thinks there will be a vaccine by the second quarter of next year. he thinks there are more effective treatments. he cited a falling death rate. i just wonder why he waited until after the election to say that, not before the election, because it kind of mimics some of the things that president trump is saying and republicans have been saying recently. but there you have it. that's right from the mouth of the guy who runs maybe the biggest wall street firm in the world. back to you. liz: and that stock, blackrock, up 33% year to date. larry's doing a lot right here. all right. thank you very much, charlie. what happens in vegas is not staying in vegas at this hour.
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an all-out brawl breaking out as biden and trump fight for gold in the silver state. we are taking you there live next with the closing bell ringing in 17 minutes. tiny bit of profit taking here but the dow is still charging higher by 484 points. when you switch to xfinity mobile,
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liz: we've got this alert. nevada is emerging as the election drama epicenter of the moment. the trump administration alleges voter fraud and late this afternoon, the nevada voter registrar stood firm in defending the process and took time to attempt to debunk at least one particular claim that's received quite a bit of attention. with six electoral college votes up for grabs, a nevada win could bring former vice president joe
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biden to that magic number of 270 electoral college votes. making him the 46th president of the united states. but we are far from clarity on that situation. to jonathan hunt live outside the clark county voting office in north las vegas. you witnessed these dueling news conferences within a couple of hours of each other. what is the latest? reporter: yeah. two story lines emerging out of nevada today, liz. the numbers and the lawsuits. let's get to the numbers very quickly first. this time yesterday, former vice president joe biden had a lead of just a little shy of 8,000 over president trump. today, with new votes counted, that lead increased to just under 12,000. so a net gain of around 4,000 for joe biden, and the biden campaign certainly optimistic, because the vast majority of outstanding votes are coming from here in clark county, where 7 out of 10 of all registered voters in nevada reside and
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where the biden campaign believes their candidate is strongest and certainly, more cause for optimism on the biden side of the campaign than for the trump campaign, which might be why we are seeing this lawsuit today. we had this bizarre news conference staged at the side of the street here where the former acting director of national intelligence and a couple other trump officials jumped out of an suv, put up a wooden podium, and then made all sorts of claims about the process here. they said that thousands of dead people are voting. they said that thousands of non-nevada residents are voting and all of those votes are being counted. they said there is no transparency. they said they cannot check the signatures. they offered, though, scant evidence for any of those claims. the claims, though, summed up by former nevada attorney general and co-chair of the trump campaign. listen here.
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>> -- believe there are many voters in this group of mail-in people that are not proper voters. reporter: now, as i said, scant evidence to back up any of those claims, although they did introduce one voter, a woman who said she and her roommate both had their ballots stolen and submitted by someone other than themselves. the clark county registrar addressed that directly today and said that that incident was fully investigated. listen here. >> -- dealt with it. she brought her claim to me, we reviewed the ballot and in our opinion, it's her signature. we also gave her an opportunity to provide statements, if she wanted to object to that and provide a challenge to that. she refused to do so. a member of the nevada secretary of state's office investigation team also interviewed her and they had no issue with the assistance we tried to give her.
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reporter: now, i mentioned rick grinell, part of the news conference alleging all of this voter fraud. he was given the opportunity to answer questions, to offer the evidence to back up all of these claims. he refused to answer any questions. he told the assembled media you are here to take in information, that is a direct quote. as you well know, that is not what we are here to do. yes, maybe it's 50% of what we are here to do, to take in information, but if somebody is going to make claims that affect the democratic process in the united states, that affects perhaps the presidency itself, then we are going to ask those people and we have a duty to ask those people what is the evidence for your claims. rick grinell and the people with him offered up virtually no evidence whatsoever. now, it may be that they are simply saving that evidence for
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the judge in the lawsuit that they have said they will file in federal court this afternoon. as far as we are aware, that lawsuit has not been formally filed as yet. liz? liz: good stuff, jonathan. we ask questions and then question the answers. when we come back, trillion dollar "countdown" closers are about to crack open their guidebooks for you. stay tuned.
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jpmorgan launching successfully trading it is first digital coin, the jpm coin. we see 15,111. let's bring in the trillion dollar "countdown" closers. david joy, manages 610 bil. bm corp scott manages 270 bil. you guys join us now. david to you first. there is no volatility this week. how do you invest around that? >> well i think you take a wait-and-see approach quite frankly. we still don't know what the government is going to look like. we have a pretty good idea so you can make some judgments how you want to position but things could still change. so i wouldn't rush to judgment but i would say this, i think the chances of probably a little more likely that now we'll get a stimulus package. that's good news. i think the market likes that is reflecting that a little bit. i think we'll see some location
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sustainable back to the growth parts of the market. technology, leadership where it wasn't over the last couple months. would i still take a wait-and-see approach. don't do anything dramatic. elizabeth: some of the sexiest tech names out there do not even pay a dividend. that turns to a question of yield when it comes to corporate bonds. that is your space. tell me about bonds as far as corporates are concerned? >> yield-seeking investors have been put in a tough spot, if you go over the last decade and 1/2 as interest rates continue to decline. what we do particularly with our core plus bond fund we look for a balance sheet of a company, look for a opportunity to invest in a company where we get excess yield or credit spread relative to the market's opinion about the cop company n this case i look around, when there is election cycle, news cycle involving health care,
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legislation, potential for that we usually see some pretty big disruptions in the health care space particularly pharmaceuticals. mylan labs. they have grade investment paper with a nice coupon. companies like bio again, we saw headlines where they lost a multiple sclerosis drug but on the upside they picked up positive news regarding a alzheimer's drug. we look for pockets of opportunity to step into those kind of names to find some yields. liz: david what are the implications if the numbers continue the way they are, joe biden wins? you have a divided government you referenced. what else, no tax athlete hikes? >> exactly. assuming that the georgia senate races break as expected for the republicans and we have divided government i think the market likes that. so-called gridlock. and so no major changes.
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you won't see -- [inaudible] liz: i think we lost it. okay. all right, we were losing those shots. [closing bell rings] scott, david, thanks so much. the big jobs report for october is tomorrow. stay tuned. i will see you friday. connell: we have five states to go at this point. investors are betting on gridlock in our nation's capitol. they seem to be perfectly fine with that scenario. i'm connell mcshane reporting to you from harrisburg, pennsylvania which has become quite active city. we'll talk about that here on "after the bell." but we begin with the closing numbers. stocks surging on wall street fourth day in a row. despite what presidential candidate occupies the white house come january. dow up 540 points which is about 2%. here is where we stand in the race.

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