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they have to throw four hail mari basses not just one in order to get the vote count overturned. thethe biden team now getting ry to launch a legal battle get the transition going as secretary of state mike pompeo catches major heat today for saying quote, there will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. also tonight we'll give you an update on former top fbi official andrew mccabe testifying today before the senate, claiming he was quote, shocked and disappointed over fbi abuses in both the trump-russia probe, also asking questions, he was asking questions about the general michael flynn probe. question, if he had all the issues why did andrew mccabe whistle blow about this while he was in office? we'll spell out what andrew mccabe is finally admitting to. what he is saying what went wrong, what he denied knowing about when it came to fbi abuses on the trump-russia probe even

though he was running the show. who is really running the show in the house. seems like it is not nancy pelosi. is this a big threat to the democrat agenda, democrats pushing back, saying biden does have a mandate but the biden agenda faces republican legal attacks before a skeptical trump appointed conservative judges and roadblocks in the senate as republicans tight inned hold on power senator thom tillis winning in north carolina. there is this. the secret weapon the republicans have that democrats tried an failed to get rid of. it's a buzzsaw that would cut their agenda in half. we have more on violent drug cartels right now hammering aing a away at the u.s. border. tom homan takes on how biden would handle increasingly dangerous drug cartels. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪.

elizabeth: okay. welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. joining me right now former deputy independent counsel sol wise sendburg. sol, should attorney general william barr, good to see you. should he let prosecutors investigate allegations of voter fraud what do you think? >> there is no question. i have read the memo very carefully. it is a very measured and moderate memo. this is all the attorney general is saying. he is saying if you have substantial mitigations of voting irregularities that could impact the election then you can start inquiring. in the past the doj policy has been, you wait until after the election is certified and any recounts that have been held, then the election is certified and as barr pointed out it doesn't give you a chance to rectify if there are serious problems that occurred during the election.

so this allows u.s. attorneys to go in without waiting to get approval from this obscure branch within the public integrity section of the department of justice which usually tells them wait until after the election. it allows them to go forward. but it says be very, very careful. don't go running after things that are just speculative. so there is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. he is to be commended for issuing the memo. elizabeth: yeah. well he is also saying we're not saying voting irregularities affected the outcome or affected the final result. he is saying you should look into it. critics are saying there is no factual predicate showing systemic mass voter fraud enough to overturn tens of thousands of votes. analysts say that is a long shot. he is saying essentially if there is problems just go after it, right? >> well, remember yes he is because remember the department of justice wants to do two

things. if the election isn't valid they want to get there in time. the chances of that, of the election invalidated in the courts are infinitesimal let me tell but also if they find law breaking, if they find felonious conduct, violation of federal felony statutes connected to election fraud he wants those people prosecuted but again his memo doesn't say go after everything. it says it has to be credible, it has to be substantial and it has to be something that may have affected the outcome. it is a very, very moderate memo. elizabeth: okay. i want to explain a full screen we just showed the viewer. biden essentially won. effectively won by winning 95,000 votes in battlegrounds pennsylvania, arizona, georgia, and wisconsin. the trump team would have to overturn pennsylvania and two out of the four other states we showed to get to 270. that would mean 75,000 of those votes would have to be overturned. remember the florida recount in

the year 2000 involved less than 1hundred votes. that1800 votes. legal eagles like jonathan turley saying they need four hail marys, not one hail mari. what do you think? >> it is not league eagles, like experts in the area, like karl rove. usually the outcomes when you have recounts, irregularities affect a very small number of voters, much smaller that on the totals you have here. you have another problem, elizabeth, so far the trump teams have not done well in courts. judges have been very skeptical. a lot of the suits have already been thrown out. keep in mind, if you're a lawyer, or a lit gant, these courts something with a frivolous claim, you can be sanctioned. one of the judges raised the possibility with unof the early

cases. you can't go in there with nothing. you have to actually have evidence. the other side gets to refute that evidence. this ultimately will be settled in the courts but it doesn't look good for the trump team. it will be a very uphill battle. elizabeth: you know georgia voting system manager gabriel sterling was certain georgia would find the legal votes put unlikely enough to change the results of the election. we talked about jonathan turley. he is a legal pro. let's listen to jonathan turley. watch this. >> this is a very difficult task for the trump legal team. they don't have to throw one hail mary. they have to throw four. at this point there is no evidence of systemic fraud and it does look likely this is the president-elect. having said that in fairness to the trump campaign we wouldn't necessarily have that evidence at this point. this is, we're now moving from the tabulation stage to the canvasing stage and that is when you probably would see more

systemic problems. also this evidence is held by election officials. so it often requires a court to get access to that information. elizabeth: so he is, hear what he is saying it is now, it is coming up now, the issues are coming up now in the canvasing stage as we move to certify the results happening in a few weeks. sol, we hear the trump team talking about ballot harvesting in nursing homes. weird anomalies in the vote count. changing postmarks on ballots envelopes, dead people voting. again, is the question all that enough to show systemic voter fraud? the rnc chair ronna mcdaniel has 130 affidavits just in michigan with over 2800 incident reports. what do you think? >> show it in court. show up in court and prove it in court. by the way, professor turley is absolutely right. now keep in mind, it is going to be very, it is going to be very difficult to do. now is the time where you might find more testified of the

systemic fraud if it exists but this idea that the trump team should stop right now, should not be going into court and that they should, that the gsa should certify and say okay, joe biden, we recognize that you have won is preposterous. that is not what happened with al gore. the clinton administration didn't do that for george bush in the year 2000. they waited until al gore had exhausted his legal remedies and conceded the race. it is outrageous to suggest there is anything wrong with president trump making the legal claims but when the legal claim is over and he loses which i believe he will, then it is time to fold the tent. elizabeth: you know we also have final word, i want your take on 10 republican state attorneys general saying supreme court, you really ought to take on the case in pennsylvania where a pennsylvania state superior court allowed for the counting of mail-in ballots without postmarks even if they were only

delivered through last friday after the election. it is unclear how many of those counts were included in the final result if at all but so, you know, we have justice alito ordering those ballots received after election day be segregated, held separately. do you think the supreme court should take this on? what do you think, sol? >> that is technically still a live case in front of the court. i think ultimately they will take it on. again, keep in mind most observers believe that there are not enough votes, even if the supreme court ultimately ruled, you know what, you shouldn't have allowed votes came in after election day. most observers are of the opinion it is not nearly enough to sway the results. again the question is, what's the material impact? elizabeth: all right. sol wisenberg, always love having you on. >> thank you very much. >> house ranking republican jim jordan is fired up. he will give us his take on top

former fbi official andrew mccabe finally admitting before senate judiciary that he was quote shocked and disappointed over fbi abuses in the trump-russia probe. if he was so upset, why didn't he whistle blow about it? i guess that is asking too much as senator graham might say. jim jordan is next. stay right there. >> if you knew then what you know now would you have signed the warrant application in june of 2017 against carter page? >> no, sir. one of the worst things about a cold sore is how it can make you feel. but, when used at the first sign, abreva can get you back to being you in just 2 and a half days. be kinder to yourself and tougher on your cold sores.

♪. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show house judiciary ranking republican jim jordan. hey, jim, congressman, it is great to see you. okay your reaction when you heard, good to see you. what did you think of fired fbi official andrew mccabe finally admitting yeah, would not have signed off on fisa surveillance wiretaps of the trump campaign given what he knows now how the fbi abused that secret court meant to spy on terrorists? that is what james comey and sally 2018 are saying after the fact. what are your thoughts? >> they schur didn't say that for the last four years. trump-russia collusion. been on cnn talking about it as well. "shazam," maybe he now figured out the truth. four for years they told us the steele dossier was credible. anyone that looks at that, story in the "national enquirer" has more truth to it than the steele dossier. it is nice he finally come

around to the truth. but he sure hadn't said that for four years. what they put the country through, comey, mccabe, baker page, top five people fired or left the fbi because of this whole thing i guess it is great he finally figured out the truth. i don't know if he actually believes that because he also said today in this testimony he thinks peter strzok didn't let his bias impact running the case. are you kidding? don't worry, lisa, we will stop trump. i don't put a whole lot of stock in what andy mccabe says. elizabeth: andrew mccabe is talking like the other officials. everyone is responsible but no one is accountable. that is how it feels. let's watch andrew mccabe talk around and around in circles, repeating gems comey's line he was unaware of things. watch this. >> i am simply following the

finds of the inspector general which documented mr. clinesmith intentional acts but failed to find any evidence, documentary or testimonial to indicate the other mistakes in the fisa package were the results of intentional misconduct. elizabeth: so again, he is saying, everything the fbi did in terms of abuse was unintentional. go ahead. take that on. >> no. here is the trouble with that. this, these investigations are normally run out of the field office. these guys brought it to the headquarters. they have a term for it, a headquarters special. they brought it to the headquarters, andy mccabe, jim comey, lisa page, peter strzok could run the case. now they say i didn't know what is going on. it is mr. clinesmith, based on what the inspector general said. that doesn't fly, pass the smell test because you guys specifically brought it to the headquarters. you ran the whole thing out of the headquarters. you launched the investigation on a dossier anyone knows, a

dossier was completely false and you did it back in 2016 on july 31st, trying to get to the president before he was even elected. elizabeth: then mccabe denied knowing who ordered peter strzok to keep general michael flynn's case open, even though andrew mccabe was running the show there. so again and again, cnn hired andrew mccabe as an analyst. he keeps saying he is unaware of probes he was running, that he doesn't know what was going on in them sort of like james comey saying i was unaware, i was unaware dozens of times. why would you buy james comey's book if he is so unaware of what is going on? you know what i mean, jim? how do you, so that the problem is, and you just pointed it out, they had a political probe inside of headquarters, right? go ahead. >> sure, sure. no they definitely knew what they were doing to general flynn because now famous january

5th meeting, january 5th, 2017 during the transition, that is when the meeting in the oval office, you got obama, comey, rice, got all the top people. you have got joe biden there. all the top people. they put in a plan how they would take out michael flynn. 19 days later, four days into the trump administration they sneak people into flynn's office to set him up. the reason they had to do it, the reason they had to do it, because they knew michael flynn would figure out what they had done. michael flynn was former head of defense intelligence. michael flynn is a three-star general. served our country for 33 years. step one of the coverup was to make sure we take out michael flynn. they did. they made a three-star general's life miserable for the past four years. for andy mccabe, i didn't know about it, wasn't my fault is baloney. elizabeth: at the end of the day, people keep saying over and over again, we talk to so many people inside the fbi, this leads right to the desk of president barack obama. that is what we keep hearing time and again.

they keep saying in testimony we're unaware, we don't know who did this, that and other thing because it came from the top down. because when we look at the facts and details, we had andrew mccabe undercutting and downplaying the steele dossier that you mentioned, hillary campaign funded and dnc funded and basically was used for wiretaps, if he is downplaying it why was it so important then to put it into the intelligence community assessment that james comey demanded the cia put in there, even though andy mccabe is downplaying we didn't really rely on it but it was important to put in the ica? your final word, congressman? >> they needed some predicate because they didn't have anything else. we know they knew there was no proper predicate. ric grenell released transcripts. i never saw evidence of any conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia. susan rice said the same thing. they had to have something, they used bogus dossier that the clinton campaign paid for. they did it to try to take heat

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♪. elizabeth: okay. watching the fox business network. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. let's welcome back to the show house oversight ranking republican. he is congressman james comer. congressman, great to see you. house minority leader kevin mccarthy telling "axios" that the squad is running the show in the house for the democrats. they are the new power of the party. that legislation can't be passed unless alexandria ocasio-cortez agrees with it. is that true? that seems a little fishy. what do you think? >> it is 100% true. you know "the squad" last congress was about four or five members. this next congress it will be about 14 or 15 members. that is well beyond pelosi's majority. she can't lose any of "the squad" passing the legislation. they will vote as a bloc, much like the house freedom caucus. only the house freed tom caucus stands for freedom and "the squad" stands for socialism. that is a big problem for

pelosi. elizabeth: now we get it, "the squad" tripled in size after this election. now we understand why it's a threat, basically, biden needs the republican cover in the senate. he cannot be yanked hard left or the democrats will lose even more seats in the house in the midterms. so you know, that is the issue. now we have cause ocasio-cortez, gearing up the biden administration for green new deal, "medicare for all"? senator sanders could run the budget committee. will we see a 15-dollar federal minimum wage? what do you think? >> they are trying it as we speak. alexandria ocasio-cortez is tweeting out the social media followers asking them their opinion which progressive idea they should begin with. they believe with all their heart that the reason joe biden won. they haven't figured out a lot of republican campaigns used pictures of alexandria

ocasio-cortez and talib in the tv commercials, they were using it to help the republicans, not help the democrats. i believe ocasio-cortez will be a rude aweakening. she is thorn in the side of joe biden. no way if joe biden is declared president, will be able to pass the liberal agenda that ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders campaigned on. elizabeth: the senate could box biden's agenda. the senate has to approve biden's cabinet. the senate is getting stronger in power in terms of republican power i meant to say. the secret the republican have is the fill busker is. democrats wanted to get rid of it. hundreds of new conservative judges that could stop any regulations, your final word? >> exactly. the greatest thing donald trump did along with the senate republicans change the judiciary forever. we had so many good laws went

down in flames because of liberal activist judges. they have been replaced by conservative judges who will interpret the constitution. so america is better off because of donald trump and because of the republican senate just from the standpoint of all the new judges they confirmed. so there is a good block on this socialist agenda. it is the courts. we got the senate majority and we gained so many houses in the house, it will be a hard, hard road to hoe for nancy pelosi to try to pass what the squad wants in this upcoming -- elizabeth: all right. congressman comer, good to see you. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. elizabeth: up next, back with us is fox news foreign policy contributor kiron skinner. on exactly where joe biden is going to unleash executive orders in order to roll back president trump's policies. that story next. ♪. this is decision tech.

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♪. elizabeth: with me now fox news foreign policy contributor kiron skinner. always great to have you back on. can you break down how joe biden plans to roll back trumps policies with four executive orders? this is what we're hearing at this hour. rejoining the paris climate agreement. reinstating daca. rejoin the world health organization and repeal the president's travel ban, targeting nations that have a large terrorist activity. break that down. what do you think of all of those possible executive orders? >> the way i would like to answer that question is to speak to another proposal that he has put forth which is to set forth a coronavirus task force. i think that is actually a good idea, to bring scientists and policy experts and scholars and others that he has faith in to deal with this global pandemic that has had a grave impact on our society. but what you just mentioned, liz, is very, very different, liz, with the executive orders.

it is attempt to roll back very, very quickly a set of policy measures, international and domestic, that the president trump put in place, that for the most part they have been working very well. this is in contradiction to what vice president biden has said about being the president for all of america. before he does these eos in rapid order, as he said he would do, i believe he will, he means what he says, he should take his proposals to the american public and so that he can really talk about the reasoning underneath, going back into the world health organization. making dreamers u.s. citizens. addressing muslim banned countries in a new context. the reasoning needs to be presented. this seems like just a major reaction against donald trump fulfilling a campaign pledge but his most recent pledge is to the american public.

elizabeth: why would it be bad, explain why it would be bad to join the paris climate agreement and why is it a bad idea to rejoin the world health organization and why is it booed to lift the travel ban on 13 countries where there is a lot of terrorist activity? can you break those down? >> well, start with the ones where there is lots of terrorist activity. one of the big successes of the trump administration has been to defeat isis but the project is not over. it entailed a lot of diplomacy and it has entailed military strength in iraq and the broader middle east. if the eo means we're reversing all of those things, i think we will be less safe. referring to some of the other eos like the paris climate accord, i think we need to see what being out of that accord has done. let's have that conversation. let's submit it to the science,

to the policy experts but if there is a sense in the international community that there will just be a short order reversal of everything that was achieved under the trump administration, and the foreign policy realm, i think it leads to more confusion, more doubt, and i think we're actually weaker because the reasoning behind donald trump's decisions to pull out of these agreements is that they did not favor america first and our objectives. and i think we drew strength and credibility with our adversaries and even our friends by saying our national interests will drive our policy. what vice president biden has not done so far is to tell us what will drive his foreign policy. if it is not the national interests then what? elizabeth: all right. >> getting along with others in the world?

thank you. elizabeth: i hear you. kiron skinner, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate it. come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up former california republican party chair tom dell del baccaro, on andy mccabe denying, he did not intentionally mislead investigators about his leaks to the media. question is this, how do you deny that? we'll spell out what he denied knowing about when it came to fbi abuses in the probe to general michael flynn. that story next. >> you authorized using it to go after general flynn as part of a political persecution. i can give you the answer. hell no, he did not violate the logan act. the reason you won't say it, that was the flimsy political basis to go after a decorated war hero because you disagreed politically with president trump

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♪. elizabeth: okay. back with me now is tom del baccaro. he is the former california republican party chair. tom, you and i talked a lot about this case. we have former acting fbi director andrew mccabe denying before senate judiciary that he had intentially misled investigators leaking to "the wall street journal" about the fbi investigation into the clinton foundation. he said he didn't intentionally mean to mislead. that exasperated republicans. senator john condi, were you fired for the wrong parking spot at fbi. it was exasperating day of testimony for andrew mccabe. what are your thoughts. 100%. i've been a attorney over three decades. it's a bad memory what other people do, to mislead in that direction, your own misconduct. there cannot be any doubt the fact he knew what he had done, he told investigators that know, he didn't. so even james comey, you know,

that scion of bible-telling truth said that he lied, he should pay a price for it and nothing came of it. so that is why it is frustrating. there is a two-teared system. if i did that sort of thing or the average person, i'm pretty average i think, i would have been in jail. there are people who went to jail for this sort of thing. so why wasn't he charged? that is why it's frustrating. elizabeth: you know, then senator kennedy, picking up on just what you were saying, senator john kennedy would likely agree with you because he asked, why was retired lieutenant-general michael flynn a former nsa to president trump, why was he clarked with misleading the fbi when mccabe wasn't? let's take a listen to this exchange. >> general flynn has been prosecuted for lying to the fbi. you lied to the fbi and you aren't being prosecuted.

don't you think that sends the wrong message to the american people? >> senator, general flynn's situation and mine have absolutely nothing in common. i never, ever intentionally misled the fbi or the i.g. under any circumstances. and i think that is probably the conclusion that the dc u.s. attorney's office they came to when they dismissed the two year investigation of me. >> but you weren't fired for parking in the handicap parking spot at the fbi, were you? you were fired for lying, were you not? elizabeth: so you know you could hear the frustration. andrew mccabe denied knowing anything about peter strzok keeping open, keeping open the general michael flynn case after the fbi ordered it shut even though andrew mccabe over saw the fbi probe into general flynn. >> think about what he says there is nothing in common. in fact comey and others came to

the conclusion that flynn didn't mislead. that he never intended. so on cross-examination in the courtroom i would say, well i agree with you that there is nothing in common because in fact he had no intention but four different times you did this you didn't do it just once. there were four different times. so there is a two-teared system. people out in the country people wonder why if he was recommended for prosecution and he never was, how hillary got away with the computer system and on and on but seems like if you're related to or associated with president trump you do get that. so yes, there is a feeling of a broken system even in washington, d.c., they see that but certainly out in america. elizabeth: you know, tom, we've talked to fbi sources. they say the problem started at the get-go when this investigation, which was supposed to be out in the field offices, you know, for example, the new york field office, instead it was redirected towards the washington headquarters. they didn't have, you know, the

boots on the ground, the guys who usually do this kind of legwork. instead they had political felt like political operatives weighing in on this. james comey was quick to jump on the train over to the white house. he was basically a lawyer by training. he is not a gumshoe investigator who could have got own to the bottom of what is it going on with the trump-russia probe. >> yeah. elizabeth: there was so much misfeasance according to the doj-ig, the fisa court judges smacked down the fbi saying you abused us. we are meant to go after terrorists. you abuse the abuse the it to go after political opposition instead of trying to capture the bad guys. which don't want to turn into east germany. that is what we hear from the fbi agents themselves to don't like what happened. they don't like the fbi intelligence was used, weaponized to go after political. take out worried trump and obama, look at the facts.

people get upset with it when you look at that way. your final word. >> i remember the time andrew mccabe was getting help from clinton operatives and his wife was running for office. it looked fishy he would be involved at all. he should have recused himself. instead the power centered around him. people see it for what it is, it is really sad that the doj didn't make him pay a price for it like james comey suggested they should. elizabeth: and tom, if it was given to a field office, instead at this very politicized headquarters in washington, if it was given to a field office you may have not had the mueller probe. you may have gotten to the bottom what was going on with the allegations about trump-russia collusion. maybe that would have been taken care of faster than the three-year investigation the country went to, went through. your final word, tom? >> the clinton operation or investigation ended really quickly and they quickly jumped to trump. that all played a role together and leave as bad taste in

people's memory. people wonder what the doj would be under a potential president biden. elizabeth: all right. tom del baccaro, thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> all right. take care. elizabeth: coming up, retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan with more on how violent drug cartels continue to hammer away at the u.s. border. they're doing it right now. we'll talk to him about what he thinks about how joe biden would handle these increasingly dangerous criminal syndicates. that story next. >> every place they put a border barrier and a border wall it has resulted in decreased illegal immigration and decreased drug flow. this is the wallboarder patrol asked for. experts on drugs asked for it. given what they had wanted. president biden should do research before he make as reversal on the decision.

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heard me say president biden. what i said a president biden needs to look at the data. make it clear. he is not our president. he is not president biden, the sound bite lost a couple of my words. i want to make that clear. i support the president and his lawsuit. i want to say that off the get-go. i said many times, president trump has had unprecedented success on the border. you can't argue that. 80% decline of immigration. no president in my lifetime i worked for six. he has an agreement. mexico is doing more to secure the border than our own congress. immigration is down 80%. cartels are not making million of dollars, the same cartels that make millions off drugs. women are not and children are not dying. president trump is doing a great job. if biden takes over, we will lose the border. he made promises he will give

them free health core. a moratorium on deportations. won't allow worksite raids anymore. he supports sanctuary cities. he wants to end i.c.e. detention. why wouldn't anybody in the world not want to come to the united states where you won't be arrested, won't be detained. won't be deported. you can get a job illegally and i.c.e. will never catch you because they will stop the worksite raids. if he becomes the president we lose the border, all the success president trump has had. elizabeth: i think it has been hard for, we think it has been hard for people to understand that the, that america is pro-immigration, it is pro-also safe immigration. that people want, it is hard to when you have a protected border, you have it done safely and in a humane way where people come here in a humane way instead of trying to cross the border illegally, if you try to cross the border illegally, you're subject to drug and human cartels and human traffickers.

one in three women get sexually assaulted. children get attacked. then we have a lot of issues still with border patrol seizing tons of drugs. they just seized one 1/2 drugs, 1 1/2 tons of methaphetamine at two texas border crossings in late october. that has street value of 60 million. drug cartels using drones to drop drugs across the border and tunnel systems. so this, these attacks are still going on at the border despite president trump's effort to shut all of that down. that is, that is an issue, right? >> you are 100% accurate, everything you just said. thank you for saying that. because, why are more drugs being captured? you know why? because the cpb, customs border protection people at ports and border patrol, 50, to 60% are not taking care of family groups. during the vast illegal surge on the border. they're vigilant. doing their job. catching more narcotics.

however if joe biden becomes president we'll see a surge on the border again which means you will have overcrowded facilities, more children unfortunately will die. more women will get sexually assaulted. cartels will make millions. when you lose control of the border, half your border patrol is no longer on the line, more drugs come across between the port of entry won't be caught. more people will die of opioid overdoses. it just doesn't make sense that you would take away the border security that this president has won and keeping america safe. and you talk about the drones. the drones are a serious, serious problem. if a drone carries 10 pounds of fentanyl across that border that is worth $6 million when it is cut. so just a small amount in a drone flying over the border, it means a lot of money for the drug cartels. thankfully cpb has technology that can chase them and track them. elizabeth: you know the, in southern california the border guys just caught enough methaphetamine to give doses to

every man, woman, child in both the united states and mexico. two top former officials in mexico's government, equivalent of the fbi chief and head of the pentagon accused of drug corruption. we have major major violence going on at the border too. so, you know, i can't imagine that the biden team wouldn't see that. do you really think they don't see that and they're going to try to unwind things like the border wall or the hard-line policies that the trump administration has put in place there? >> absolutely, unless he is lying. he already said he would stop building the wall. what is shameful in 2006 he is voted for secure fence act, liz, which was going to spend up to $50 billion on border barriers. that is fraction what the trump administration spent. at one point he votes for border barriers because he knows they work. before he makes the decision he ought to look at the data.

he played the sound clip before, every place they build a border barrier, every place has had decrease in illegal immigration, a decrease in drug flow, a decrease in deaths, a decrease in assaults. the border wall is something that the border patrol has been begging for. this isn't president trump's border wall. this is america's wall. he has given the border patrol exactly what they need and it is working. i was in border in san diego in early 80s. we arrest 2000 illegal aliens on a schiff across the soccer fields of tijuana. last time they got 48. border walls work. he shouldn't shut them down. you go to his website. he will stop worksite enforcement operations so they can work here legally. put a moratorium on deportations. when they resume deportations only those illegal aliens convicted after serious felony. he sent a message to the rest of the world, work here legally. we won't deport you.

we won't detain you. you need to commit multiple misdemeanors we'll not remove you. it doesn't take a border expert to realize what that will do to our border. elizabeth: we hear what you're saying. also under the trump administration they arrested 600 ms-13 gang members, majority of who were illegal aliens. final word, tom homan? >> i'll say it once again loud and clear. the border and immigration enforcement should have been a major issue during the campaign. our sovereignty of a nation is important to every american. our safety as americans lie in that southwest border. so president trump has made unprecedented success. we can't lose it. i'm glad he is fighting this. i'm glad we got lawsuits pending. we'll see what happens. elizabeth: tom homan. great to see you. thanks for coming on. >> good to see you. >> okay, i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. thanks so much for watching. we hope you have a good evening.

see you again tomorrow night. good to see you. e'll see you back here psalm time tomorrow. ♪ -- same time tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. it has been a week since the radical dems tried to steal an election from president trump, or so it appears. and finally there is a signal of life coming from the department of justice. attorney general william barr has authorized the justice department now to investigate substantial allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. within hours of the attorney general's or authorization, the man who would normally lead such an effort, the director of the department of justice election crimes branch,