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big headlines. washington getting ready for the million maga march as counter-protests a are planned. major networks called georgia and arizona for biden, computer software used for voting created major irregularities as resentment grows over this story and more, the do as i say, not as i do politicians. new examples of them breaking their own covid-19 shutdown rules. also tonight, how the election is not a repudiation of republican policies as democrats try to claim. democrats are left with the slimmest majority in two decades. more democrats support nancy pelosi. republicans could claim the house in the midterms as the democrat civil war is intensifying. mud slinging, pushback, name calling, the far left squad is growing in size, also stepping

up their fight with moderates. they're saying the far left, quote, defund the police is wrong and democrats don't have some, quote, crazy socialist agenda. they don't like it. and more on the hunter biden controversy. democrat adam schiff now trying to get out in front this story in the media, trying to downplay the hunter biden controversy as senate republicans are poised to intensify probes there. and investigative journalist gwen greenwald, he's been -- glenn greenwald is ripping into the media for what he says is how they are naively agreeing with democrats and ignoring the government evidence on hunter biden. i'm elizabeth mac congress, "the evening -- mac don, "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth macdonald. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right at it with texas attorney general ken paxton. sir, it's great to have you back on. it's good to see you. >> good to see you too.

elizabeth: okay. i want your -- i'd like to get your reaction to this, what the president just said a short time ago. he's saying his administration would not put the nation back into lockdown. the president also said this, watch. >> ideally, we won't go to a lockdown. i will not go, this administration will not be going to a lockdown, hopefully the, whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, i guess time will tell, but i can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown. there won't be necessity. lockdowns cost lives, they cost a lot of problems. the cure cannot be, you've got to remember, cannot be worse than the problem itself. elizabeth: okay. so, you know, the administration is fighting the vote recount. we know that you, the state of texas has rejected the dominion software voting program for the state of texas because -- i

figured, we're going -- i want to know if you thought the software is weak. but the media's saying what the president just said is an admission that he's going to concede. what was your take on that? >> you know, it didn't sound like a concession to me. they're still pursuing remedies in court. i think he was only saying he wasn't going to go through lockdown during his administration, however long that lasts, and i clearly think that's the right approach as we move forward. elizabeth: why did the state of texas reject the dominion voting software? >> so we tested it starting in 2012 until more recently, we tested it three different times in testing labs, and we found it to be filled with inaccuracies and subject to potential fraud and manipulation. so we can never certify it as a reliable voting system. elizabeth: how long ago did you guys, did the state of texas test the dominion software, and tell us more about the irregularities you found. >> so it started in 2012, and i

think it's been every several years, every three or so years, a more recent test, i think, a couple years, a year ago or so. and we just found that it had softwares, it had hardwares, and we could not trust it to have accuracy, and we were concerned that it was subject to fraud and manipulation. and so we just, the secretary of state's office and my office, we just wouldn't certify it. elizabeth: do you believe the claims that this software has led to voting irregularities in the swing states? what do you think? >> in, you know, it's being used in 28 states. it's possible for about a third of the voting systems, is my understanding. so if we couldn't verify it through our tests, certainly i have concerns that other states shouldn't be able to verify it too. and i'm actually wondering why they didn't do their own testing or at least look at our testing to look at some of the issues that we felt, that we were concerned about. elizabeth: okay. let's go to this story, let's

move on to this, because we've got a lot of headlines coming out of this presser, press conference with, a little while ago in the rose garden. talk of a lockdown, growing tide of resentment. a growing number of states, new york, maryland, michigan, california, about a dozen are moving to do more restrictions. the president saying you're not going to -- he's totally against that. he doesn't want people to be thrown out of work. there's resentment against the media and politicians talking about shutting down thanksgiving and christmas gatherings, don't turn your house into a super-spreader center. we've had politicians breaking their own covid-19 rules. we've got cnn hosts saying don't talk loudly at holiday gatherings. when you see these stories, we know you guys have seen covid hot spots certainly in el paso, what's your reaction to what's happening with what the president said? >> i agree with him. we have our own hot spot in el paso, as you said, and we're

fighting that right now. we've got a county judge who's trying to shut business down that are determined by the government to be nonessential. to me, it seems like individuals ought to make their own decisions. we've learned a lot about covid. we certainly don't know everything, but individuals can make their own decision about where they can -- whether they can go to a restaurant or a movie. i think it's better left to the individual as opposed to the government deciding a one size fits all for all of us. elizabeth: you know, hospitalizations are on the rise. it's, you know, this is a serious situation, you know, we understand that here. but when you see these stories, the stories of the do as i say not as i do politicians, the mayor of chicago is shutting down chicago again, shutting down, you know, holiday gatherings but defends going to a joe biden rally. she's saying, quote, people sometimes need relief. we have the governor of california, began somehow in, just -- gavin newsom, just went to a birthday dinner in napa

with a dozen people, it's the exact same thing he's telling people don't too to do that, and major de blasio saying don't travel out of state for thanksgiving, but de blasio did travel out of state last month to see family. people are getting really angry about this. what's your thought? >> i agree with that. i mean, that's hi epochally city. and the -- hypocrisy. the reality is people can't live are like this forever. we're coming up to eight or nine months, and people have to work, they have to live, they want to visit their family members for thanksgiving and christmas. i mean, who wants to be excluded from those family gatherings for this year or for any year in the future? so i think it's easy to tell people not to live their lives, but in reality it's hard to not live your own life. elizabeth: the covid restrictions. okay, the supreme court justice alito says they are doing basically a stress test of the constitution.

he's getting heavily criticized by people including senator elizabeth warren for saying politicians aren't severely stress testing the constitution and also civil liberties and religious liberties are at stake. when you hear justice alito and then senator warren criticizing him, what are your thoughts about that? >> well, i think they need to look at the constitution. i mean, we looked at this across the country like churches that were being told they had to shut down. we have a first amendment right to gather and worship. there are all kinds of things that governors were doing and county judges, even in my state there were, you know, local officials trying to stop people from doing things they should be able to do under our freedoms in this country. so, yeah, i agree that there are civil liberties that are being impinged upon, and we need to be very careful when government starts doing that, because it could have long-term impact on our freedoms. elizabeth: you know, you had the wisconsin state superior court toss out governor tony evers' covid-19 restrictions for the

state of wisconsin saying he overstep thed his authority, and we've been -- overstepped his authority, and we've been tracking more than 30 protests on 5 continents worldwide. people around the world are marching saying don't do lockdowns in places like loan bonn, berlin, ireland -- london, berlin, ireland. they're saying there's lack of scientific data to back up these kinds of mandates. do you believe there's lack of scientific data supporting lockdowns. >> look, we've heard all kinds of different things from whether you should wear a mask, when you should wear a mask, what drugs work, what drugs don't work, there's all kinds of confusion about what actually is true about this virus and how you treat it, how you prevent it. yeah, i think it's hard for people to trust the government when there's no real answer on this stuff. that's why i think it goes back to individual responsibility. if you're older or you have some higher risk, you might want to take more precautions. either way, you know, you might want to follow the cdc klein guidelines. but to tell people how to live

their lives, whether they're going to be able to go out and, you know, enjoy a movie, that ought to be up to individuals. i don't think that should be a government function. elizabeth: do you -- what -- final question about president trump saying to new york state governor andrew cuomo, you're not going to get our help on a vaccine. is that the right approach to take? >> sure -- elizabeth: andrew cuomo was saying we don't trust the vaccine developed under your administration. your thoughts. >> yeah. there's always a back and forth between the federal government and state governments, and there's always strings attached. if the administration currently doesn't want to fund the state because they're overreacting or they feel like they're overreacting and impinging on people's freedoms and their ability to work, you know, the federal government has that right to address funding. so i do not fault the administration for pushing forward policies they think will work. elizabeth: all right. ken paxton, thank you so much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you. have a great evening. elizabeth: staying on this

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elizabeth: okay. joining me now is texas representative jodi arrington. congressman, it's good to have you back on, former adviser to george w. bush, currently on the house ways and means. the big march tomorrow, the maga march, press secretary kayleigh mcenany says she expects major turnout, you're going to see counter-protesters, a lot of support for president trump there. your reaction to that and now abc, nbc, cnn calling georgia and arizona for biden. your thoughts on the race there. >> yeah. well, i think that the electoral process has to run its full course.

i think this is paramount to our constitutional democracy, and we have seen this happen before. i worked for george w. bush as president, as you mentioned, and the bush v. gore contention over the election outcome was solved new the court system, and we need to let law and democracy play out before being premature about calling the election. there are serious allegations and irregularities, they need to be substantiated, no question. but it doesn't serve our republic well, and it won't serve whoever ends up president well if the people of this country don't feel like it was fair, open, accurate and there was legitimacy. elizabeth: we've got ken paxton just joining us moments ago, the state of texas rejected the dominion voting software saying the state of texas didn't trust it, its used in a number of other states. we have a pennsylvania secretary of state saying she will not order a recount of her state's

election results if it falls within that margin that would trigger -- that basically, she doesn't see that happening, rather, she doesn't see a recount happening. a philadelphia appeals court just denying all five lawsuits from the trump campaign, a michigan to court rejecting a lawsuit as well. so, you know, the certification of the results will come down next week. how do you see this playing out? >> well, i think they're petitioning to extend the certification while some of these questions are being, are being vetted out, and some of them are constitutional questions that may end up at the supreme court. you know, the judicial branch doesn't make the law, not at the federal level, not at the state level. so there may be questions there. look, the -- i'm not trying to predict the outcome, and i'm not advocating for this verify caution of the outcome and the system itself in these states that are in question, i'm simply

saying it's good for american democracy, it's good for the president and for public confidence. and so i think it looks like a narrow shot, but i think it has to be exhausted because there's serious concerns. the voter laws were relaxed in such a way that it is certainly opened it up for widespread fraud and error. so we'll -- elizabeth: yeah, former -- >> -- have to look at it. elizabeth: mick null vainny was with -- mulvaney was with us last night, he would agree with you. they need to prove individually each and every one of those votes was fraudulent, so we hear what you're saying. we want to move on to this story, the republican party so far is the big winner, the election is not a repudiation of gop policies, democrats will have the slimmest majority in two decades in the house. ten of those democrats did not back nancy pelosi in the last

congress, her gavel is still in question. we see the name-calling and mud-slinging going on, johnny deutsche saying, you are a, quote, moron if you think the voter is going to go for socialism. he's a tv pundit. we've seen alexandria ocasio-cortez in a fight with senator joe manchin tweeting back at him, a death stare she gave to him. he's saying that no way would democrats and should democrats back, quote, the crazed socialist agenda, they should not back defund the police. this seems like a growing fight, in-fighting inside the democrat party. you're down there, what do you see? >> i think it's very contentious, and it's a house divided. i don't see it getting any better as the democrats will determine who would lead the house and their party. i think this election was a referendum on pelosi's agenda of obstruction, impeachment and socialism. she made a deal with the radical left, it's a very small group,

but it's a very loud group, and she basically gave them the pen to write the legislation. this isn't just rhetoric. they put it on paper, they passed it through the united states house of representatives. and the american people are not buying it it. minorities have moved to the republican party in droves. they're not buying defunding the police and open borders and socialized everything. they know what a disaster. and especially minority communities, my hispanic fellow americans who have heritage in latin america where they've seen the authoritarian socialist rule and way and what it does to the people and to the country. it ruins it. so i think that they're not buying identity politics, they don't want a country that has to apologize all the time and pits one group over the other and keeps us always fighting. they want an american that they're proud of, and they want leaders who will fight for them, and they want better opportunities, and that's what they got with president trump's leadership and with republican

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so bounce forward, with comcast business. elizabeth: you're watching the fox business network. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. let's welcome former federal prosecutor jim trusty. jim, we always love having you on. here is what's going on, house intelligence chair adam schiff is now saying that republicans investigating the biden family would be a degradation of our

democracy. this after the senate homeland security and senate finance put out a report based on treasury records and bank records what the biden family was doing in their business dealings in china, in russia, ukraine and kazahkstan. republicans say they will intensify their probe into this. your take on adam schiff now. >> well, look, the day that we can say adam schiff is fair or credible is the day that we can say i'm quitting the law to be a supermodel. it is ludicrous. this guy was jury, you know, judge, jury and executioner. remember, this is a guy that stopped congressional hearings to run out in the hall and have press conferences to breathlessly announce that the president is a traitor. this guy is a joke. what he's doing right now is essentially anticipatory obstruction. it's recognizing that, you know, there's a good chance that there's going to be a new administration, new attorney general, and he's setting the

stage to have people walk away from an obvious point of inquiry. it may not be a full-blown case at this point, but you'd have to be remarkably incurious to not have concerns about russia, ukraine, kazahkstan and the biden flow of money through shell corporations to joe. there's a lot to ask about. elizabeth: yeah. "the new york times" two years ago also detailed what was going on with the biden family's interaction with the chinese energy conglomerate. the guy who was accused of, charged with money laundering and bribery, the first phone call he made was to joe biden's brother james biden. as i said, there's government documents, we've been seeing them talking about this, about, you know, what bank records show end happened here. you talked about how adam schiff has been criticized for repeatedly going on television and making misstatements that he claims are facts. let's show you what adam schiff has done on tv.

let's watch this. >> this is about as clear evidence you could find of intent by the campaign to collude with the russians. he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time. the russians offered help, the campaign accepted help. the russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. there's clear evidence on the issue of collusion. there is ample evidence of collusion. an asset of the russians. elizabeth: okay. the mueller report found nothing, nothing to support what adam schiff said. so, you know, is this a preview of what we're going to see from adam schiff as senator grassley is expected to lead the charge on these probes? >> you know, look, i think schiff has been consistent if nothing else, he's been consistently dishonest, consistently show boating and consistently making up facts just to suit his political am bugses. so, yeah -- ambitions. so, yeah, we're going to hear a lot from this guy. i have to say when i look at the

guy, i think the fact that at least at some point, i don't know if it was for a minute or for a year, he was a federal prosecutor, and he has completely abandoned any pretension of procedural fairness or of just being judicious. so it's very sad, you know, to see anybody if clamor to this guy like he's got some credibility. again, i guess i'm more interested not in the political component, although it could be very interesting to watch, i would like to see the law enforcement component. they're the ones that should be looking at, you know, burisma deals and comments by a sitting vice president about shutting things down while his son is benefiting from that. elizabeth: yeah. you know, cesc, the chinese energy conglomerate, was acting like a middleman to help iran avoid sanctions and also accused of doing arms dealing. it was backed by, you know, the top executive had close connections with china's government. you talk about shell companies, we've been digging into numerous shell companies hunter biden and

husband family was using to -- his family was using to get money, his financial dealings involve shell companies connected to the wife of the former mayor of moscow, $3.5 million through a shell company connected to hunter biden. he set up a shell company for the entire cesc deal in order to avoid registering under fara. he basically got money out of china wired in to hunter biden, hunter biden got it from china via a shell company. we're highlighting the shells in yellow e that show the money sluicing in from overseas to accounts connected to hunter or biden. so, you know, so this story, do you think this story is over? do you think it's done? we keep seeing, you know, government reports about how there's potential for criminal activity here. that's what the homeland and senate financial reports said, interaction between hunter biden, his family and associates

with ukraine, russia, kazahkstan and china. >> well, liz, there's a few kind of pivotal points to look at as you would start an investigation into these matters. one is who are the people who are making donations. when you talk about a russian oligarch's wife making a payment, that's huge, or burisma, you know, or some of these folks that are connected to iran or china. there's a lot of potential bad players who are out there. the next thing you'd look at is what are the services, what are they actually getting from the hunter biden. and if they're basically just selling access to the vice president, then we're off and running. and, of course, shell companies as we have talked about before, they're not necessarily illegal. there's plenty of real estate transactions where shell companies are used to legitimately limit liability. but if it's cloak and dagger, if it's being used to keep people seeing the money trail, that's important. and, look, a lot of this stuff is accompanied with money wires, suspicious activity reports. that's great stuff for investigators to be able to know

some bedrock facts early into their investigation. so, look, i think if you have any sense of fair play, you think this stuff should be run down by congress or by, you know, the fbi or by both, and that's what i would hope would happen, but we'll have to wait and see. elizabeth: all right. jim trust few, we'll certainly have you back on. thanks for your insights there. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: next up, former trump deputy national security adviser kt kt mcfarland. investigative journalist glenn greenwald ripping into the media for ignoring the documents in the hunter biden controversy. that story next. >> the cia is just simply asserting, as are people like adam schiff, the chairman of the intelligence committee, that the e-mails are the providence of russia, that this is russian disinformation which is an absolute lie. they have no evidence and no basis for making that claim, and more kiss turning still is that journalists are simply going around asserting that.

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elizabeth: joining me now is former trump deputy national security adviser,kt mcfarland. it's always good to see you, kt. >> hi there. hi. what do you think -- elizabeth: [inaudible] take it on. >> okay, so here's the thing, i think adam schiff is living in some parallel alternate universe where up is down, black is white. because for years he said, oh, donald trump, he's a russian agent, he's part of a conspiracy, he's definitely an agent for russia when turns out there was nothing there. and now when there actually is real stuff there, as glenn greenwald is writing about, real evidence of biden family corruption particularly with china, what does adam schiff say? oh, no, nothing there, nothing there. black is white, white is black, but the china thing is real, and

the chinese do corruption this withdraw. now, the russians, liz, when they do corruption, they put the money in the politician's swiss bank account. or if you really get on the wrong side of them, they knock you off. china, they put the money in the relative's bank account so that you never can trace it to the official. but it turns out granny's a millionaire, she's in a nursing home in gaga. so when the bidens got off the phone, off the plane in beijing, joe biden goes to have meetings with the chinese officials, hunter goes to have meetings with the chinese businessmen. what happens when they come back? hunter biden has billion and a half dollars of contract, and joe biden's just given away the store. go figure. elizabeth: okay. so we -- the -- glenn greenwald is also saying this. this is a quote from him. he says adam schiff is a, quote, shameless pathological liar, that adam schiff was going on the media talking about the

hunter biden story claiming this is russian disinformation. he's citing a letter from 50 former intelligence officials, but he left out the crucial fact that these former intelligence officials admitted they did the not know for sure that this would, this really was russian disinformation, right? so that's in their letter, even though that they speculate that it is, that hunter biden's story is russian disinformation, you know, that's a crucial fact. so how can you now report that, right? i mean, we've got dan rather saying the media is harder on joe biden than donald trump and that we've got cnn anchors saying this hunter biden story is, quote, too disgusting to repeat on camera. when there's government documents spelling out what is going on. your thoughts on that, kt. >> well, the cnn anchors, the same cnn anchors are calling donald trump a fascist and a nazi. again, i think this is all upside down, and the tragedy is it's the press. i mean, i expect politicians to

lie, cheat, spin, steal. but the press that are censoring free come of -- freedom of speech? that's prettied bad. when you get to that point, it's not just that they're partisans, but they've become the ones who are censoring the media. and you're right, that letter that those intelligence officials wrote, you've got to read the small print because the small print negates everything that they've said before. elizabeth: so why did they put out the letter? >> well, they put out the letter because they're trying to put their thumb on the scale. these are a lot of the same people, the ones who were talking about the whole russia hoax thing. i mean, from clapper, comey, all these guys were part of the russia hoax, the russia investigation that turned out they knew there was never anything there. they knew there was never any collusion, there was never any connection to trump and the russians, but they put it out -- [inaudible conversations] >> yeah.

elizabeth: yeah, the story that trump helped russia hack. yeah, go ahead. >> no. and so but even more than that, liz, mean, they were -- i mean, they were going to schiff's committee behind closed doors and saying there was no evidence that donald trump was connected to the russians, that-connected to the hacking, but also there was collusion to try to win the election for trump with the russians. and yet they were saying publicly just the opposite. well, now they're saying the opposite again where you can't trust -- it's almost like if they say one thing, you know, that's the tell. it really means something else. elizabeth: all right. kt mcfarland, good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> good to see you, liz, thanks. elizabeth: sure. still ahead, media research center vice president dan gainer is back with us. he's going to take on the media's inflammatory rhetoric. we're going to break it down. ♪ >> basically, the immediate medo mad about the 2016 election, mad about the 2016 election, they vowed to make trump

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the media and democrats have been saying about president trump calling in the military to stay in power in order to, quote, steal the election. watch this. >> looking at potentially a trial run for a kind of, a genuine attempt to, through intimidation and potentially through force, to try to, to try to steal this election. >> if he loses, and i expect that he will, we have to be prepared for things that this nation has never faced before. and, unfortunately, that could involve the use of, you know, these forces. >> it has been suggested that this is a trial run for the president of the united states who may be organizing to not accept what happens when we have the election. >> this is just the president's own version of martial law since the real military has kind of pushed back from doing that. elizabeth: you heard all that. what are your thoughts?

>> well, it's insane. this, we're hearing this kind of rhetoric from the media when donald trump won't accept the election, he's going to declare martial law, they never accepted the 2016 election. they parade hillary clinton out there to disagree, they e promoted false, you know, the false electors so that some people would be unfaithful and vote otherwise to keep donald trump out of office. but you go back to 2000, and they loved the idea of challenging elections when al gore was doing it. this rhetoric has become so incendiary, it's so dangerous. the people who are putting our nation and our republic at risk, it's not trump, it's the press. elizabeth: you know, it's a lot of opinion, right? so the -- it's a lot of people talking to each other in the same corner, agreeing with each other and amping each other up.

on our program we push back, and we've had guests push back on things the president has said. andrew mccarthy has said things he's tweeted is inexcusable. ivanka trump has said it's hard to take, so has melania trump, some of the things he says, it isn't right. but when you hear it go to that degree that it's martial law, hitler and fascism without facts underneath it to support it, dan, where are we headed with this? >> well, we're headed to a very dangerous place. we've been fortunate that they have not been able to pit americans against one another any more than they have. but what they've tried to do is turn a nation of 330 million people, you know, into an armed, violent version of twitter. elizabeth: okay. dan gainor, it's good to have you on. i wish we had more time. have a good weekend, okay? >> you do the same. look forward to seeing you. elizabeth: same here.

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elizabeth: let's welcome back national borr patrol council vice president art del cueto. art, it's great to have you on, we love having you on. we're seeing apprehensions at the border of illegal border crossings nearly triple since the spring, and now border patrol warning we're about to have a crisis like the one we had in 2014 with up accompanied children. what are you guys hearing? >> the difference right now, liz, is the individuals detained and arrests are being sent back to their country. the people that are being detained that have warrants and have past criminal, they're facing consequences. the problem is moving forward with the new administration saying that they were going to stop the wall, they're going to stop any type of deportations, the big issue that i believe we're going to see because we saw it in the last administration is you're going to have a bunch of people false claiming asylum, they're going to be coming in, getting released in the united states, it's going to be the same old catch and release all over again. what that does is it creates a

humongous magnet for a wunsch of criminals -- bunch of criminals to say, hey, you know, if i come into the u.s., they're not going to deport me, i can just claim asylum and just run awe mock. that's very irresponsible, very irresponsible to even say you're going to do that. elizabeth: yeah. and we've seen illegal border crosser es not just from south america or central america, from asia, from the middle east, from africa. so, you know, we see drug cartels trying to break in via planes, drones, boats and tunnels to deliver hard core narcotics. so the border is still really, really vulnerable right now. your thoughts? >> we have been very blessed with the administration right now under the trump administration to be able to enforce the laws that are on the books. but when you start hearing the new administration flat out say they're not going to enforce the immigration laws, they're not going to do deportations, they're going to stop building

the wall, it's insane to even hear. i think we've taken so many steps forward in securing our nation's borders, and now we're going to take this gigantic step back and at the same time create that huge magnet that we've always talked about that's going to allow criminals to come into our country, and it's going to allow a lot of these cartels to start bringing in, you know, their drugs. because you're going to have agents tied up, you know, with a lot of those individuals that are false claiming asylum. so it's going to leave wide open areas for drugs to come in. and, i mean, you don't know, but under that administration let's remember a lot of the holding cells that were being used at the time were those cages that everyone decided to blame president trump for. and now i think a lot of people are educated and realize that that was under the obama administration. elizabeth: you know, we're seeing tons and tons of narcotic seizures, you know, in southern california it was enough meth recently seized to dose every

man, woman and child in both the u.s. and mexico. we've seen mexico's homicides per capita higher than the middle east. we see also, art, in 2006, you know, the democrats, 2 of them votes -- 26 of them voted for a secure fencing and barrier act to build border barriers, 700 miles. president trump accomplished 400 miles of that. we're talking joe biden, then-senator barack obama, hillary clinton and chuck schumer said, yeah, do it. that was 2006. this only changed within the last decade or so where the democrats are saying no to what president trump was trying to do at the border. your thoughts. >> i think it changed when you ended up having radicals, you know, take on political positions that started attacking and not really caring about america. that's honestly what i believe. right now is not the time the take any steps back. it's the epitome of saying, you know what? i'm going to open up my front door and just let anyone that

wants to come in my home run amok and not face any consequences. very irresponsible. elizabeth e health yeah. you know, we saw the golden gate bridge when authorities stopped a man in a car, he was knocked out of control, and then the law enforcement approached the car. this happened just recently. they got knocked out too within seconds because he had a form of fentanyl in the car, and it's such a powerful narcotic that it just, you know, wipes these guys out, and they all had to go to the hospital. i mean, i don't -- we keep seeing these stories. you see the danger of that too, right? what's going on with this fentanyl alone, right? >> you know, and that's the big issue. these individuals that are going to be allowed to just come into the country at the time that are going to hold up our agents doing something different, what's going to happen is you're going to have these criminal elements that are going to take advantage of that, and they've already taken advantage of it because they don't just bring, you know, marijuana in, they

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