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monopolies. charles: i wish we had more time. we had a lot of breaking stories. i always appreciate speaking with you. all right, folks, we are off the lows significantly of the session as i hand it over to my colleague, liz claman. liz, do you think we can actually have enough momentum going into your last hour to finish in the green in all three major indices? liz: i don't know. maybe. i'll be the gossip columnist of the stock market in this hour. sure. we'll see what we can do. i get jill a lot. people confuse liz with the name jill. call me whatever. just call me, right? pfizer trying to push the market comeback over the finish line that charles is talking about after its ceo said moments ago that it is quote, very close to submitting for u.s. emergency
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use authorization its covid-19 vaccine. you can see pfizer punching up about 1.7% at the moment. remember that we're looking at a comeback perhaps late in the day, in the next 59 minutes, because that is the dow had fallen 430 points, now we are down just 116. any gain for the s&p, the russell or the transports means another record. we're not there yet right now. the nasdaq up 9 points. fed chair jerome powell also giving markets a boost by calling on congress to get moving, already, on a new stimulus package. former chair of the council of economic advisers under george w. bush and now columbia business school emeritus dean, glenn hubbard is here on whether we need it, how big it should be and how worried he is about the precarious recovery. the ceos of facebook and twitter forced to run the senate judiciary committee gauntlet on capitol hill once again. one senator equating the social media sensations as quote,
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modern day robber barons. the ceo of what's being called the anti-facebook is here. millions have been flocking to this app. over just the past five days, millions. we will ask what it's about, what his platform offers that conservatives are rushing to and where he stands on whether big tech needs to be regulated or broken up or neither. social media can make or break a brand. elf beauty sitting pretty during the pandemic thanks to its specific social media strategy but could it take a licking if tiktok stops ticking? the ceo of elf is here. elon musk doing a happy dance as he inches closer to the top of the list of the world's richest people. very close right now, thanks to tesla's new spot on the s&p 500. and wait until you see what warren buffett loaded up in his equity shopping cart this past quarter. we are about to crack open the oracle of omaha's newest secret
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stock playbook. a fox business alert. got to get you this. the wrath of senators on full display for both facebook ceo mark zuckerberg and twitter ceo jack dorsey at a senate judiciary committee hearing. both ceos highlighted their efforts, they say, to crack down on misinformation around the u.s. elections while pleading with lawmakers to handle the legal liability shield known as section 230, handle it with caution as it underpins their business models. edward lawrence listened to every word of this five-hour long hearing, he joins us now with how much damage might have been done. edward? reporter: yeah, the glaring highlight of this hearing was the facebook ceo mark zuckerberg caught off-guard by senator josh hawley. hawley saying he has a whistleblower who says facebook, twitter and google coordinate on who they can censor and what topics get censored. zuckerberg dodged questions saying he has to confer with his team. listen to the exchange. >> we should follow up on what would be useful here.
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it is of course in the operations of the company if someone reports something, sometime it's necessary for people at the company to go review and understand the context around what is happening. >> what we have here is clear evidence of coordination between twitter, google and facebook. mr. zuckerberg knows he has the tools to track this but he either doesn't remember or won't commit to letting us see it. i submit to you that this is both totally unacceptable and totally predictable. because it is exactly what these tech companies have done to the american people and to congress for years now, which is why it is time we took action against these modern day robber barons. reporter: both zuckerberg and ceo of twitter, djack dorsey, sy there is mistakes in what has been censored. senator mike lee saying funny how these mistakes always come down on conservative voices. some say there needs to be a greater crackdown on information flowing through social
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platforms. saying there was styilence from the social media platform. the ceos acknowledged section 230 of the communications decency act that gives immunity needs to be changed. both of them say there needs to be more transparency about what is censored and the decisions about how censorship is made. no concrete steps came out of this hearing, just the ceos on notice that congress is watching. back to you. liz: okay. modern day robber barons. we shall see. good to see you. thank you for distilling that. as competitors smell blood in the water, around those two names, it appears rivals aren't really having to take the time to attack. take mewe, the ad-free social networking app is being called the anti-facebook. the app which promises it will never collect your user data has benefited from a growing exodus from twitter and facebook in the days following the presidential
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election. mewe now has more than 11 million members. it's still small, facebook has three billion, but mewe has clocked two million new members in just the last nine days. mark weinstein is the founder and ceo and he joins us in a fox business exclusive. wow. mark, mewe has been downloaded, the number one most downloaded social app for the last four out of five days. what specific role do you feel the presidential election has played in serving as the spark plug for mewe's outsized popularity of late? >> you know, people don't want to be censored for having good conversations about whatever they're talking about, whether it's politics, health issues, anything at all, as long as they are abiding by common decency rules as facebook, twitter, google, they decided to be political arbiters of what's okay to talk about and what's not okay to talk about.
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people are done, they are over it. they don't want their data sold. they don't want to be targeted. they don't want their opinions manipulated and purchase decisions manipulate d. so people are flocking to mewe because mewe is social done right. there is no fartargeting, theree no ads. it is pure authentic we are connected [ inaudible ]. it's really common sense. people call the movement a revolution. mewe is social done right. liz: i'm a big believer that when there is a monopoly out there, for years, or a duopoly, twitter, facebook, that kind of thing, the upstarts really get their shot when those big goliaths stumble. but you've got to be ready for that stumble. tell me technically how you are ready, are your servers holding
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up? give me a sense of how you are capitalizing when this opportunity arises. >> we have been engineering, we only have one person on marketing. we are an engineering focused company because if you take on facebook, which is what we chose to do, you have to build the best social network and it's got to scale perfectly. we are scaling perfectly. we are engineered to scale perfectly. so it's easy for people to register, get started, get the groups they want to follow. so it's simple and our server astruc isre compl complyely gndeed tgngnt hgnt hgnsedsf milliofmemberer okayay i w wt, ient went on was g somg oe grgr.ps. s, aot of lot of conseivseiv p.ou bhe t genentyen has a a a sean hanty oas oneheret'si meaea his,ut there's's a sh,
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he heot a lffa, 00.,6 tucktuckas aas fess l tn th at.. onaltititicocovatiervati sherehe a a a s se qan qan gro ell an well my qd uen uecome jack dorseysey s thatha h flagged agorge twitterer h fla some 30 0, pie of ot ty aboutabouou electiel.tielorsimar u sayu saou will wilil do tha. however, what happens if somebody puts something on your site, let's just say for example a terrorist who puts an outline of how to make a pipe bomb on your site in a group of we love pipe bombs whashgs a, what are to do about that? nothing? >> no, no, these are great questions. these are great questions. first of all, the problem with facebook and twitter is their business model. the fact that you or i or anybody or a russian or chinese, the government, can go in and target millions of members and drop data and content into their
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news feeds unsuspecting, change their minds, change their purchase decisions, change their votes, that's completely absurd. at mewe, nobody can target you or me. it's only what i follow. my friends, the pages i choose, the common interests, hobbies, whatever, it's all what i choose to follow. liz: but it's out there. you're saying they can have their groups privately. >> hold on. hold on. we do have strict terms. we are not anything goes. i am completely against anything goes sites. on every post, on every group, on every profile, on every page, we have a trust and safety team. we don't allow inciting violence. we don't allow anything like that, bullying. we don't allow any illegal content. we are very strict. but yes, we have people from all walks of life, conservatives, great, welcome to mewe, but everybody else is welcome to mewe, too, because mewe is
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founded on democratic principles of we argue, we disagree, that's fine. isn't that what our republic is about? isn't that what democratic principles are about? that's what mewe is about. if you're a bad guy, you're out. liz: okay. we would love for you to come back. we are following this story because if there is regulation by congress, you may get swept up in that, as you are a social media company. i'm sure you wouldn't be thrilled about that. but we will be watching it. thank you so much. >> thank you. liz: mewe is the company. they are calling it the anti-facebook. pretty popular app lately. fed chair jerome powell has made borrowing money for anybody, mewe included, as cheap as possible, or has he? are we about to see him take it a step further? is he going to ponder negative interest rates? former council of economic advisers chair of columbia school of business dean emeritus glenn hubbard games that
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-- the recovery continuing at a solid pace but with significant downside risks, especially in the near term. of course, the near term risk that we're most focused on is the spread of covid these days. the concern is that people will lose confidence in efforts to control the pandemic and they will pull back from activities that they think might put them at risk of infection. there are some signs of that already. so yeah, this is very much a concern. we have been saying all along, the economy can't fully recover until people are confident that it's safe to resume activities involving crowds of people. liz: fed chair jerome powell speaking just a short time ago at the bay area council business hall of fame ceremony, outlining just how a precarious recovery can suddenly go south after just a few steps. but look at the intraday chart of the s&p 500. we have gotten pretty much to the highs of the session a few
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minutes ago after he spoke. is that on the belief that the fed may resort to negative interest rates if it means it will help the recovery? joining me now, glenn hubbard, former u.s. council of economic advisers and chairman and dean emeritus of columbia university graduate school of business. great to have you, dean hubbard. do you get the sense that if congress cannot manage to pass some type of help, that that is the next step, or at least a few steps away, and that would be negative interest rates? >> i don't. i don't think negative interest rates are in the interest of the economy. i think they would distort capital allocation and might really just push on the strain. the fed does have other tools through the programs that it has, but chair powell has been right in his comments that what we really need is more fiscal support if we want to correct some of the demand problems during the virus recovery, we've got to do that. the fed can't do it. liz: yeah.
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but the congress can't seem to get it together to do what he is asking them to do. so it makes me wonder, the last three times he's spoken, i listen very intently, he continues to say we have to be careful because now what you see across the united states are sort of revived lockdowns being instituted from the coasts to the midwest and everything in between. what are you seeing as a top economist out there who has watched all kinds of issues that this country has faced, if there are market slowdowns, we got retail sales numbers this morning that missed estimates on both the top line headline number and then of course, ex autos it was a decent miss there. it makes people start to wonder how bad it's getting. >> i think you're right. chair powell was correct when he said unless and until we fix the virus and get people comfortable with normal activity, whether that's work or shopping or anything else they do and entertainment, we are not going to recover. the fed can't fix that, though.
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lower interest rates or negative interest rates aren't going to change any of that. what we need is assistance for people who are unemployed, for businesses who are struggling to make it, and for states. i do think there's a potential for compromise on some of those individual pieces, members are not that far apart. there's been a big battle over headline numbers but if you look under the hood, they're not that far apart. i think a couple of missed numbers puts a package on the table. liz: we have millions of people unemployed and about 30 million still getting some form of government help. the heroes act that the democrats had passed back in may, i believe, couldn't really get together with the republicans. president trump tried to broker a deal that came close. we're looking right now at what they had come down to. democrats said okay, $2.2 trillion. president trump and steven mnuchin had said we will go up to $1.88 trillion. but mitch mcconnell said forget
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it, i don't have the votes. there isn't the taste anymore on behalf of republican senators. is this a mistake? >> well, i think from the economy's perspective, a package of at least $1 trillion is needed. i have done some work with aspen, with some other economists this past summer. if you comply with aid to states and unemployment insurance extensions and more funds like the paycheck protection program, you could get up to about $1 trillion. i think the heroes act is probably too much and a trillion would get the economy going again. liz: okay. because the heroes act wants to put $1200 direct payment checks into people's hands, expand ppp, the paycheck protection program, give some state and local governments assistance. it seems that there are so many needy areas. but you say $1 trillion. all right. i do have to ask when you put on your dean emeritus hat at columbia business school, jobs out there, are they plentiful?
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because i'm hearing anecdotal evidence that graduates of a lot of top mba programs, not just columbia's, are having trouble finding jobs, even after graduating with that platinum degree. what are you seeing? >> well, the job market is actually pretty good for our students. the real issue of course is which industries you are interested in. if you are interested in technology, consulting, finance, that's fine. obviously things that are more real estate or travel and entertainment oriented have been hit. i think it really depends on the sector. overall, it's not columbia mbas i'm worried about. it's many lower skilled americans who are really struggling to find work. liz: us, too. but you know, if the columbia mbas are having trouble, you can only imagine how hard it is out there for the average lehmaayla laywoman. thank you. i appreciate you coming on. glenn hubbard. look at gamestop shares.
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they are falling. this is interesting. after chewy co-founder ryan cohen, one of the video game retailer's largest investors, called out the company in a letter to gamestop's board. cohen complaining about quote, gamestop's outdated business model and failing brick and mortar strategy. the stock is kind of failing right now, down 4% right now. talk about playing and winning the game. elon musk's tesla, topping the nasdaq as it super-charges its way into the most exclusive club on wall street. no wonder he's dancing. we are tracking all the electric moves, next with the closing bell ringing in 38 minutes. the russell 2k now positive, up 4%. if we close right now, that's a record for the install asmall a midcaps. or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions.
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pharmacy names, looking a little pale. that's with amazon launching its latest disruptor. amazon pharmacy is a prescription drug service that includes two-day delivery, steep discounts for prime members. yes, walgreen boots down 9%. cvs down 8.7%. rite-aid getting just crushed, down 16%. the new competition causing real pain for the drug sector. they're not the only ones experiencing pain. xpresspa's latest quarterly report is stressing investors. the airport-based spa chain says it has no plans to open any of its u.s. locations of the spa part of it, the massages and manma manicures in the near term. they just can't with the pandemic. the ceo says the focus for now is converting its storefronts into rapid covid testing sites. three wellness centers already operational now in newark airport, jfk and boston's logan
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airport. the stock down 8.9%. snowflake heating up, thanks to the oracle of omaha tipping his hat to it. berkshire hathaway's latest 13f filing, where the company must reveal what it's bought and sold during the quarter, shows its snow pile increasing to 6.13 million shares which as of yesterday's close, would be worth $1.5 billion. the stock is up 1.7%. definitely more than that. the cloud giant's $3.4 billion public debut two months ago made it the top software ipo in history. snow trading at $246.12. we've got more on warren buffett's latest shopping list and what he jettisoned as well in just a few moments, including the one sector he's absolutely going gaga over. or maybe it's his stock traders that he's hired. but we will take a look at that in just a minute. and to probably the most
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souped-up pop of the day, tesla. the s&p finally opening its hallowed doors to elon musk's creation. the ev giant will gain entrance to the s&p 500 on monday, december 21st, sending the stock and his net worth sky-high. right now, believe it or not, even with a gain of 7.9%, it's off the highs of the session today. it had jumped 10% which of course is helping a number of ev makers shift into cruise control. let's go to cheryl casone in the fox business newsroom with more on what it's done for both the halo effect of other companies and also elon's net wealth. cheryl: i was interested to watch in the premarket, the overnight trading when it jumped about 13%. this stock has been the story for the last two days. s&p announced monday tesla would be joining the index prior to the beginning of trading december 21st. when it becomes official, it will be one of the ten most valuable companies based on monday's closing price. stock is up 8% right now. it spiked on that news earlier as i mentioned.
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the fund managers, all of those guys out there, they have got to add the stock as they track the s&p 500 index to their portfolios, the market cap of $8.2 billion makes tesla now the latest powerhouse in the index. one of the top stocks in the index. that is going to make elon musk an even richer man. his wealth, talking about $15 billion on tesla's entrance into the s&p. he's about to become the worldworld's third richest person. he's now overtaking facebook chief mark zuckerberg. as of last night his net worth is sitting at $117 billion. there's the performance for the year of tesla. the reason they reported their fifth consecutive quarter of profit, $8.77 billion and they reportedly delivered 139,300 vehicles during the third quarter. that was a new record for the company as well. on that news you mentioned this, liz, most ev stocks got a nice boot.
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lordstown, ticker symbol ride, that stock up more than 9.5%. but this is kind of i guess the tide that lifts all boats, if you will, or whatever, the reverse of that. i forget how the saying goes. there you go. all the boats and cars are getting lifted. it's fun to watch. it's fun to watch. liz: yeah. the rising tide of course. fisker, henrik fisker worked at tesla. that's an interesting one. he's been on the show. we will be watching him. he went public via spac. again, it's a crowded field but maybe it's the future. we are watching it. cheryl, thank you. all right. dow jones industrials down 188. the elf that just can't stay on the shelf. from new star powered relationships to going big on social media, the ceo gives us the secret keys to his publicly traded makeup giant's success even in the face of the
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largest retailer beat on earnings but here's a third quarter highlight that investors are choosing to ignore. e-commerce sales soaring 79%. we've dug in, what were some of the most popular brands for walmart online. e.l.f. beauty. it's taking the beauty industry by storm. the company just brought in its seventh consecutive quarter of net sales growth and is amping their marketing and digital presence using one social media platform in particular, tiktok. we thought let's get the ceo in, tarang amin joining us now. this is so exciting to see for you guys. as a publicly traded company now in, what, your twelfth year, it's nice to see that you are really one of the most popular on walmart's online presence but give me a sense of how the quarter went and what during the pandemic has encouraged customers to jump in and press buy? >> first of all, thank you for having me. i'm so proud of our team.
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as you said, we delivered our seventh consecutive quarter of net sales growth in a very difficult environment. the pandemic has not been good to color cosmetics. people are kind of locked up at home and haven't been able to kind of express themselves the way they normally do. so the category itself has been down and we have been able to buck that trend by really posting pretty strong growth, even in the face of this category headwind. really, it comes back to our fundamental proposition of extraordinarily great products at great values and our strong dim digital presence. again, really proud of the team and how we're executing in a tough category. liz: let's get to that. the strategy, especially when it comes to marketing. you launched a tiktok show, a guess a reality show, called e.l.f., eyes, lips, face, but
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tiktok has been important to how you have been able to reach a huge audience. what gave you the idea? we're looking at some of this right now that goes on tiktok. can you put a pinpoint on how important that particular social media giant has been for you guys? >> yeah, it's been a great driver of our business. as has our overall digital ecosystem. on tiktok in particular we always follow our consumer. we have a strong following among gen z and gen z happen to be on tiktok quite a bit. we did something unusual and decided to get into tiktok, instead of doing what most brands do and sponsor something or do something that is more akin to their other efforts. we actually composed our own original music track because as you know, gen z loves to dance on tiktok, they love to use these challenges, and i'm happy to say our collective challenges now on tiktok are approaching something like 10 billion views over six and a half million -- liz: whoa! >> yeah. it's been an incredible --
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including we were the first, we created the first tiktok reality show and we continue to build on kind of the success we've seen. liz: now, tiktok's in a little bit of limbo here. we know that cfius, the committee for foreign investment in the u.s., has given it a 15-day reprieve starting a couple days ago, but how concerned are you that it might get banned in some way, shape or form? >> well, i hope that gets resolved but meanwhile, we were created 16 years ago online so it's always had very strong presence across all the different social platforms. we are strong on facebook, on instagram, on snap, really across our entire system so for us, it's really about how we engage our consumers. i'm hoping everything gets resolved on ik the to beitiktok doesn't you will see us continue to innovate on other platform as well. liz: we are coming up on the holiday season, albeit a different kind of holiday season
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obviously because of the pandemic. what is your strategy as we look ahead? >> well, we are expecting a really strong holiday season. we talked in our earnings call, q3 will be a particularly strong quarter. part of that has to do with holiday. part of what we did this year, what the pandemic might mean on shopping patterns, we started much earlier. we started putting our holiday kits on elf cosmetics.com all the way back in september. we have just seen really strong growth as we have across our digital business. our digital business is up between our retailer.com so we continue to feed it the best way we know how, through innovation that consumers can see. liz: you know i'm available for eyes, lips, famous. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> you're more than welcome. liz: yeah. be careful what you wish for. all right. tarang, thank you very much.
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tarang amin of e.l.f. cosmetics. the coronavirus pandemic, we talk about this with each and every business story, has really crushed the travel industry. none more than airbnb. but the vacation rental marketplace bouncing back and has finally filed for an ipo after all these years. but what does that filing reveal? and kodiak cakes. have you had those pancakes? the ceo joel clark shares how he bo bootstrapped his company starting at age 8 dragging his mom's pancake recipe in his little red wagon door to door to building a multi-million dollar pancake powerhouse. boy, did it take a long time. i want you to listen to my latest podcast episode of everyone talks to liz. how he found sweet success on spotify, apple, wherever you get your podcasts. slow and steady won him the race. closing bell ringing in 18 minutes.
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that's why liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. what? oh, i said... uh, this is my floor. nooo! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ liz: breaking news. the u.s. senate has just blocked the confirmation of president trump's controversial federal reserve board of governors nominee judy shelton. i need to give you context here. the vote was 47-50. two senators missed the vote. one of them, chuck grassley of iowa, he's quarantining. this is the first vote he has missed in 27 years. but we should tell you that three republicans, susan collins, mitt romney and lamar alexander, all said they would not support miss shelton due to her controversial and somewhat unorthodox policy views as they
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put it. she wants to return to the gold standard. first time around, senate's blocked it. airbnb looking like it is perhaps well on its way to recovery from the pandemic. the vacation rental platform opening the door to a december public market debut with its ipo perspective -- prospectus, rather, which it filed late yesterday. the hotel disruptor reports it narrowed its revenue dropoff from 72% in the second quarter to just 18% in the third quarter. that rebound helping the travel unicorn turn a $219 million profit during the period. travelers appearing to agree with the cdc that airbnb is a less risky alternative to hotels when it comes to coronavirus. that seems to go for the markets, too, at least. marriott, hilton and hyatt all in the red at this hour. we have marriott down about 1%, hilton down 2.8%, hyatt down 1.7%. the pandemic is also squeezing profits in the banking
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world and it looks like that could mean more pink slips getting handed out at financial firms this christmas. terrible timing, charlie. always terrible around this time of year to get a pink slip. charlie: this is breaking news, liz. i just want to say that the two firms we found out about today, the ones we found out about. every major firm on wall street will do major cuts next year. unclear exactly how much, it could be pretty significant. what they found out is this. they can work with a lot less. that's what they found out during the pandemic. even though the markets are going up at record levels, even though today we saw them off a little bit, these big banks are looking to reduce their footprint in manhattan, looking to cut staff. they don't need as much to make the same amount of money. the two firms we found out, goldman sachs and credit suisse, as we reported first on my twitter page earlier today. they are the ones we found out about. but it's every firm. here's what we do know. wall street is now beginning to
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chip away at its work force in a fairly significant way. credit suisse today issued pink slips, from what we understand sources at the bank tell us, to executives in the equity and prime brokerage division. i didn't get the number. we don't know. they have be describen describe as not massive layoffs but modest amount of layoffs. goldman does now have plans to lay off people in the new year. we've got that confirmed from someone inside the bank. i got that confirmed early today, right after we tweeted about credit suisse. i saved it for your show, liz. that's how much i love you. just so you know. i saved it for your show. liz: yay. charlie: they are planning modest amounts of layoffs. we don't know exactly how much. again, from what we understand, what people inside goldman are saying, it will be firm-wide. analysts predict more layoffs in the coming year. it's simply this, liz. wall street firms are notorious
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for cutting. they always overcut and they always overhire. liz: yeah. yeah. cycles. charlie: it's how the cycle goes with these guys. now they are in a mode of trying to figure out what -- how many people exactly do they need to make the same amount of money when they don't need to fill people inside big firms in manhattan. they are looking to cut costs. you know, they are figuring out that maybe they need fewer bankers. there's all these trends where you are doing deals without bankers, without middlemen. obviously they don't need as many traders anymore. most trading is done electronically. so -- and the pandemic did have an impact even though markets are up, it did have an impact on certain businesses. particularly banks. if there's an issue with people, with the pandemic going on and on, and these vaccines not working, you know, does the consumer get hit, do credit card
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defaults ramp up, does that hurt the banks' bottom lines, the bank banks, not necessarily goldman sachs. although goldman sachs is turning in a bank, as you know. it's becoming much more consumer. that's what all these guys are dealing with right now. those are the two we know. i would put my money on the fact that jpmorgan's going to do the same thing. i put my money that morgan stanley is going to do the same thing. people inside those firms have dropped the dime, they told me they are looking at everything. that's where we are right now. wall street could be up and it is, as you know, markets are doing pretty well. but the big firms are looking to cut costs. i think the next thing you are going to see out of wall street is some sort of massive reduction of their footprint in manhattan. that's kind of another way to save a lot of money. move to nashville. you can still do the same business in nashville, apparently. aga again, here's the thing.
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i can't stand doing stories like this. i don't like it when people lose their jobs. it's part of our job to do that. anyway, that's where we are right now. back to you. liz: you know what, yeah. the banks are cutting employees. thank you, charlie. warren buffett's cutting banks. yes. we just cracked open warren buffett's secret playbook. he has to cough it up to the s.e.c. four times a year. he is shedding bank stocks including jpmorgan. but what's he adding? the four names from one attention-grabbing sector that he's adding to keep his stock empire healthy. you got to stay tuned through the commercial break because i'm about to tell you. closing bell ringing in seven minutes. the dow, down 166. well off the lows of 430 points. stay tuned. we could make a run for the border. for over 30 years,
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♪. liz. 3 1/2 minutes before the closing bell rings. russell, dow jones transports, new all-time highs. can we do it here? russell about to acknowledge third straight record close. don't move. you have to see this. it will be the second straight record for the dow transports. nice moves. we see if we hold it. the oracle of omaha scooping up four names from one single sector. warren buffett's berkshire hathaway stock portfolio spending 5.7 billion doll on big pharma giants abby, bristol-myers squibb, merck and pfizer. everybody from bristol-myers squibb getting a nice move to the upside. not just among vaccines makers. among these names only pfizer has a vaccine. today's "countdown" closer has two stocks to recover your portfolio from covid-19. center square investment management. chief investment officer scott
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crow. sell me on these names. >> liz, great to be with you. one thing your viewers need to know about commercial real estate and covid it accelerate ad lot of trend already in place pre-covid. there will be bifurcation, some lose, some recovery plays. think about our lives have changed. shopping, working from home. the movement from the cities to the suburbs. this is helping some real estate types, right like, industrial warehouse distributions, single family rental, all the i.t. related real estate infrastructure and cell phones and data centers helping this conversation happen. it is also hurt a number including apartments, big cities, malls, obviously and office buildings as well. you can pick through that, definitely find areas of opportunity. liz: you like rexford industrial reality. looking at three month period. it absolutely recovered.
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what is specifically in the portfolio you say can keep people safe? we heard charlie gasparino how banks will move out of manhattan and big sy centers because of the cost of commercial real estate. >> it is hard to put your finger on retail and office buildings. rex ford is a company focused on last mile infill industrial. we understand e-commerce, 20 to 30% of retail sales as we go through covid. climbing by the day. the big problem that amazon, and all these retailers and e-tailers have, how we get to the population centers. rex ford focuses on last mile industrial warehouse distribution. it has this sort of growth in their portfolio. liz: you like equity residential, eqr. it is up 33% year-to-date. we're seeing a record close for the russell and transports. you like stocks here or too expensive overall. >> i like residential it is up
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on the back of vaccine. it's a focus to bet on new york city and san francisco coming back. [closing bell rings. decline in real estate values. [inaudible] liz: we have to wrap there, scott. thank you so much. scott crow. it's a record for the russell and the dow transports. take it away, connell. connell: falling from record highs. rising virus cases and stimulus uncertainty dragging on stocks today. the dow and s&p are in the red as we close it up a day after they both hit new highs. off the lows but still down 166 on the dow. nasdaq turned green early in the afternoon after being down in the morning. not able to hold the gains down lower by 25 points. if you want to see green on the board. take a look at tesla, the stock jumping on the announcement that it will indeed be added to the s&p 500. that will be on december december 21st. amazing run
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