owl. thank you. remember, if you have your own hit or of miss, be sure to tweet it to us at jer on fnc. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my esteemed panel and all of you for watching. hahahahahahahahahave a great wee you back on monday. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump today stating with assurance that he, not joe biden, won the election of 2020. president trump also blasted big pharma for their role in delaying their announcements of the china virus vaccine. president trump also accusing big pharma of playing a large part in the plot to undermine husband presidency. president trump's -- his presidency. president trump's remarks come as his legal team as has won a pathway to victory in pennsylvania and as rinos running the election in georgia today contributed to the chaos

that they have created. they had to reverse their first decision to certify results of the vote and the recount for joe biden. it's just all part of the chaos they're created in the state of georgia, the mess. and the battle for the white house goes on. joining us tonight to talk all of this up, pennsylvania state congressman seth grove. he was supposed to chair a hearing today in pennsylvania talking to officials of dominion voting machines. but instead, dominion has lawyered up and backed out of that hearing. we'll find out why. we're also joined by trump legal team member jenna ellis and judicial watch president tom fitton with us tonight as well, one of the republican canvass board members in wayne county, michigan, monica palmer, who was threatened, intimidated, harassed until she awe greed to certify results -- agreed to

certify results. who are the radical dems, what have they become and why are we tolerating them? we'll have her story this evening. pastor robert jeffress joins us as well. and we begin tonight with president trump promising today to never give up his fight for the american people. the president making his first pluck appearance in a week -- public appearance in a week in the white house briefing room. president trump announced two new rules to dramatically cut the price of prescription drugs, a move that big pharma, washington lob buttists and their bought -- lobbyists and their bought and paid for elected officials oppose. the president says those groups and others are part of the deep state and radical dem efforts to bring down his presidency. >> for generations the american people have been abused by big pharma and their army of lawyers, lobbyists and bought and paid for politicians. but i've been loyal to the

special interests, i've been loyal to our patients and our people that need drugs, prescription drugs, and devoted myself to completely fighting for the american people. you see that. this is not an easy thing to do. big pharma ran millions of dollars of negative advertising against me during the campaign. which i won, by the way, but, you know, we'll find that out. almost 74 million votes. we had big pharma against us, we had the media against us, we had big tech against us, we had a lot of dishonesty against us. lou: and a lot of political corruption. president trump also praising the development of operation warp speed. operation warp speed accelerating china virus vaccines from pfizer, moderna and others. pfizer today filing with the fda for an emergency use authorization of its vaccine, a

vaccine that pfizer says is 95% effective. president trump, however, says those biotechs held back positive news about the development of the vaccines. in one case by six days after the election. and the other announced thirteen days after of the election. and there is considerable reason to believe that those companies and others may have known about the effectiveness of those vaccines as early as october 22ndment -- 22nd. here's what the president had to say today. >> pfizer and others even decided to not assess the result of their vaccine. in other words, not come out with a vaccine until just after the election. that's because of what i did with favored nations and these other elements. instead of their original plan to assess the data in october. so they were going to come out in october, but they decided to delay it because of what i'm doing. which is fine with me because,

frankly, this is just a very big thing. lou: and the president, you may recall, predicted that there would be a, that that very well might be the case if they would attempt to do so. president trump not only fighting for the american people, fighting against big pharma and other vested interests across the country, but also for a free and fair election. for the integrity of our electoral system. members of the president's own party, however, making a mess of the election and the recount in the state of georgia and other states as well, but focusing on georgia. rino secretary of state brad rathensberger just moments ago finally certified the election for the, for joe biden for a second time today. rathensberger's office made the same call earlier before later withdrawing the certification. we had no explanation for the secretary of state's office, but

that is pretty much the custom, apparently, of the georgia secretary of state. president trump has gently chided -- i would put it that way -- georgia republicans for the way they've handled the state's recount. he tweeted this today: the governor of georgia and the secretary of state refuse to let us looked at signatures which would expose hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots and give the republican party and me, david perdue and perhaps kelly loeffler a big victory. another recount has begun in wisconsin's two largest counties. officials have until december 1st to complete the recount in milwaukee and dane counties. the intent of the recount, of course, is to throw out tens of thousands of defective mail-in ballots that may be missing legally-required information and signatures on them. in pennsylvania a state court has cleared a potential legal pathway to victory for president

trump. the court ruling that 2300 ballots in allegheny county surrounding pittsburgh can be thrown out of a state senate race, in fact, must be. the ballots were deemed invalid because they were missing a printed date, and that violates state law. the judge in that case saying directly that other, other jurisdictions in pennsylvania should follow suit as well. and that, of course, in favor of the trump campaign. they've identified hundreds of thousands of ballots that republican poll watchers were blocked from seeing, if checking and validating -- from checking and validating. those ballots may be missing as well similarly required information. rudy giuliani says the ballots need to be thrown out and immediately. >> in pennsylvania where we have probably our most precise evidence, 682,770 of these ballots were cast, put in, and

they weren't inspected. which renders them ballots that are null and void, cannot be counted, have to be removed from the, from the vote. lou: should those votes be thrown out? president trump will far exceed joe biden's current 81,000-vote lead in pennsylvania should they do so. also at issue in pennsylvania, the use of dominion voting systems machines and software. dominion was used to cast 19% of the votes in pennsylvania. their ceo was supposed to testify this morning before the state government committee. but according to its committee chairman, seth grove, dominion bailed on the hearing at the very last moment. and joining us tonight is seth grove, republican pennsylvania state representative. and, mr. grove, first, thanks for being with us here.

good to have you. and what happened? dominion was going to be transparent, they were going to be clear or about what transpired through the evening and mornings of november 3rd and 4th. and suddenly they didn't appear. what happened? >> lou, thank you for having me and happy thanksgiving. today we attempted to have a honest and open dialogue with nip onvoting systems. they operate elections machines in 14 of our counties. it consists of 1.3 million voters, about 19% of total votes cast in pennsylvania use the dominion voting machine including in my home county and myself. lou: right. >> obviously, there's a lot of alleged conduct by dominion. we wanted to got to the bottom of it. and actually, dominion approached us. they provided the committee a white paper of kind of facts and fictions and said anything you need, we want to be there to help address with your

constituents and individuals. we're reading all these accusations, they want to insure that their vote actually counted for, there wasn't any misconduct by voting machine companies in the election here in pennsylvania and across the country. lou: right. >> unfortunately, we didn't have that opportunity today. we asked them if they wanted to come in for an informational hearing which is kind of the lowest level hearing you can get. they weren't sworn in, it was virtual, it was more of a relaxed atmosphere of conversation and questions with both republican and democrat members of the committee. and they decided at 8:30 last night that, when discussing with their attorneys, they decided not to move forward because of alleged and potential litigation. which is very disheartening because anybody, any legislative committee, any legislative body in the country should be fearful because if we're going to face testimony in front of the public, particularly for an entity that we purchased their machines, taxpayer money was

expended to provide a public good, can walk away from any committee hearing based on alleged litigation, how are we ever going to do oversight and insure that anything that truly happened -- lou: well, i'll tell you the answer to that, you know the answer to that, you're going to have to subpoena them. you're going to have to carry out an investigation. and you know that's going to take time, and it's going to be probably too late in many instances for decisions that have to be taken in the next couple of weeks. but the reality here is that dominion right now has an opportunity to be fort forth -- fort coming, to explain how their decision was, why they took decisions that they did, why these allegations against them are invalid. but instead we have a situation, mr. grove, where the state of pennsylvania and other jurisdictions don't even know who run these companies. they have, they have officers, but we don't know the ownership.

do you know who owns dominion? do you know where the servers are? >> we have no idea. nope, we have no idea. we don't know what kind of -- yeah. lou: this is stunning. >> we don't know what kind of software they use, yeah. lou: this is all over the country. where do they get with contracts? >> right. and, you know, this is certification processes for every state. texas denied theirs in 2018. pennsylvania passed theirs. so states really need to look at their cert9 my e case process and -- certify caution process to insure we don't have the situation. dominion's the only voting machine i know of that has any allegations against it whatsoever. they still haven't addressed their issues in georgia. they say it wasn't a glitch, but they admitted they sent people down there to do some work of some problem with their election machines. that's the problem. people don't know. people want transparency, and

they have -- and and you were spot on, lou. they had the opportunity to come forward in a public forum to address these concerns and wipe away any doubt with the use of their machines, you know? if i were a dominion ceo or employee, i would take that to heart and say, yeah, we want the opportunity to publicly discuss our machines because we know they work, we know they were accurate, and they provided the support and needed process to insure we have fair administered elections in every jurisdiction whether it was pennsylvania, georgia, wisconsin, michigan. and they didn't take that. instead, they walked away and didn't provide any transparency or openness to the people of pennsylvania. and, basically, they -- unfortunately, i think they themselves are starting to validate those accusations that they say aren't true because of it. lou: seth grove, we thank you for being with -- for having you with us, and we hope you get to

the bottom of it and how in the world the state of pennsylvania could have put itself and its voters in this situation. but the way, and pennsylvania's not alone. it goes across the battleground states. the state of texas alone, by our understanding, is the only state to decline to use dominion software because of the issues that have awe risen in this -- arisen in this very election. thank you very much. up next, ri e no senator mitt romney, what is wrong with this man? he now refuses to support president trump in the battle for the white house for some of the most peculiar, the oddest reasons. we'll take that up and more with trump campaign legal adviser jenna ellis. stay with us, we'll be right back with much, much more in the battle for the white house. ♪ ♪ for over 30 years,

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lou: breaking news now, ri e no senar mitt romney rolling over for the radical left -- no surprise there. but what he's saying this time is surprising if appalling. he says president trump's fight for intellectual and electoral integrity is undemocratic, says

number. says mitt romney. president trump responding, saying he's sure romney feels he was slaughtered by obama, quote, fair and square, referring to the 2012 election in which romney blew what was surely the best political opportunities for any presidential candidate to prevail against president obama in the midst of a downturn in the economy. well, joining us now is jenna ellis, spokeswoman for the trump campaign's legal team, attorney to president trump fighting for electoral integrity. jenna, good to have you with us. let's start with, you know, i don't think we can make too much of anything mitt romney says except now he is calling black, white and white black when he says the president is acting undemocratic by trying to preserve electoral and establish

electoral integrity. your reaction to senator very, very quickly if you would. >> it's really embarrassing that a sitting united states senator doesn't understand how the court of law or the u.s. constitution works. and, clearly, he just wants to get camera time and make a name for himself. that's the same thing he did during the impeachment, and it's just what we've come to expect from mitt romney. it's meaningless, absolutely embarrassing. lou: pennsylvania. dominion walks away from an opportunity to defend itself and to explain itself and how well it operated its machines and software in the election, at least in 14 counties in pennsylvania. they decided not to. how bug -- how big is dominion in the trump legal team's efforts to restore integrity to the electoral system? >> well, i think it's a really

big question for all of americans. right now we don't have any specific dominion-related allegations in our three lawsuits in michigan, pennsylvania and nevada. but, of course, we're looking into this. and, you know, lou, what i think is really important for the american people to consider and for you and i to care about election integrity like we should as americans is why when you have even the ceos of big tech who are willing to come and talk to congress, and they're willing to answer for their algorithms, for their suppression of conservative content and all this. you have this company who isn't willing to come forward and simply answer questions. that should raise suspicion in the american people's mind of what they're doing -- lou: well, that's exactly right, jenna. you're exactly right. and what i don't understand is those suspicions have been articulated on this broadcast, for example, and i know others as well for now weeks, for weeks. why isn't the legal team involving themselves in the issue of the integrity of those

voting machines and what transpired? to not be considering that is somewhat astonishing to me. >> well, we're certainly considering that -- lou: it's wonderful to give a speech to the american people what they should do, but what the hell are you doing? >> yes. well, and that's why i just want to be very clear about making sure there's no confusion about what our current lawsuits are doing which is trying to not have states certify the results before we can actually get support -- lou: no, no, there's no confusion, or jenna. we report on what you're doing here faithfully. there's no confusion -- >> well -- lou: there are two issues here. >> yes. lou: there are the mail-in ballots primarily, which you and the legal team to believe to be rife with fraud, and there are the software operations of those machines, principally dominion, where it appears categorically that there are anomalies, irregularities that may rise to

fraud. am i correct in that description? >> it appears so, and that's why we're taking this very seriously. we have to look and pursue all legal options that are available. and the thing, fact of the matter is, lou, these machines are actually in the cus duh of these election officials. right now i would certify it as election official fraud. when they are going against their own state legislature's law, that's what we're mainly challenging, and that's the pathway to victory for election integrity, to make sure that we keep the constitution and the law appropriately with the state legislatures. but i think it's a question, absolutely, of these machines what they were doing, why these so-called glitches were only in favor of joe biden rather than president trump. but we're being asked to put together this investigation very, very quickly and bring this forward, and we're doing that as expeditiously as possible. so, of course, we're looking into it, but i want to be clear where the legal process is right now. lou: the issue in pennsylvania,

you feel that you have a path forward now for victory there depending upon the rulings of courts and particularly the supreme court. how confident are you tonight about what the prospects are in the state of pennsylvania? >> i think we have a very solid case that should be moving forward in court because we had evidence that over 682,000 votes were illegally counted. we deserve our day in court, and i hope that the judge will give us that opportunity and deny the motion to dismiss. if he grants that, we will certainly appeal, and we'll move forward with the process as quick ally as possible because we're on constitutional deadlines. but i'm very confident that if we get our day in court, that the american people will see -- but more importantly, a court of law will see -- that this election was stolen and that president trump was actually the

victor of this election, but that election integrity has to be preserved not just for this election, but for every election after this one. lou: the president has to move from victim to victor. the president also, i think, requires advocates not supplicants before those courts because it suggests to us that justice is a far cry from, well, proximity in pennsylvania. jenna, thanks for for being wit. we appreciate it and bush you all the very best of luck. jenna ellis. up next, one of the republican canvass board members in wayne county, michigan, she was harassed, bullied, threatened, and she certified election results. her name is monica palmer, she is our guest here next. stay with us, we'll be

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in michigan meeting with president trump today in the white house. leftist protesters harassed the state's republican senate majority leader and the house speaker e when they arrived. here they are at reagan national airport on their way to meet the president. the left-wing national media also baselessly claiming president trump using that meeting to undo the election. our next guest has faced the harassment, the intimidation efforts of the radical left in this country. she was bullied, she was threatened by them, and she certified election results in wayne death, michigan. -- wayne county, michigan. monica palmer is one of two republican members of the wayne board of canvassers, wayne county board of canvassers, and monica has since rescinded her vote to certify those results. monica, i can only imagine what you've gone through here in the

last few days. but i applaud and appreciate you being with us tonight to tell your story and what has transpired in wayne county, one of the most controversial locations, a state -- where we saw so much happening just before our cameras. the boarding up of cardboard over windows to prevent the public from seeing what's going on. get -- tell us why, first of all, you did not want to certify the results in wayne county. you and one other republican member of the board of canvassers. >> when we were given a verbal executive summary of the precincts to find out the over/under reports whether the precincts were balanced or unbalanced, there were an excessive number of presints that were unbalanced without explanation. and it is the job of the canvass

to find the explanations and the difference in the balance. therefore, in my opinion, we did not have complete and accurate documentation for the total number of votes on the precincts that didn't have explanations, and that is why i voted no. lou: that is one of the requirements, is for the canvassers to find that balance and to have an explanation for the imbalance, correct? >> that is correct. lou: and so that board meeting in wayne county was underway, there was video streaming of it, there was some contention in the room, and it was going out to everyone. and suddenly the video streaming of a public meeting was interrupted. it was stopped. what happened when the cameras went off?

>> i'm not sure how the camera stopped. i wasn't operating the laptop. but during public commentary by the chair, pulled me aside into the back warehouse and offered a suggestion on a one/win solution that would get wayne county election results certified and would provide a route to get explanations to the precincts that were out of balance unexplained at that point. and offered me a personal guarantee that he had higher authority promised him that we could get an audit done, a come prehence i, independent audit. and that comprehensive, independent audit should be able to provide the explanations that are currently missing. and it's for that reason only that i voted for the certification, was knowing that we would have an audit that

would provide the explanations for the differences. lou: right. but, of course, that's not occurred, and you have been threatened, you've been harassed. what are the most serious threats against you and your family? >> i've received text messages with awful, awful photos of naked women and then a photo of my daughter that was pulled off line and a note letting me know that that's what was going to happen to my daughter and that i'm viewed as a terrorist and that my husband and my daughter and i should all fear for our lives. my employer or has been harassed. a wedding, bridal shop that i shared a post from i don't know

how long ago, they've been harassed because i shared a post on my page on twitter. it's, it's just where does it stop? lou: it doesn't stop, monica. it doesn't stop. we've watched the country be harassed and intimidated from may through august with street violence across the largest democrat-run cities. we have seen a supreme court justice intimidated, some say broken. referring to justice kavanaugh. of -- we have seen the ugliest side of this country and the ugliest side of the american left and the democrat party. we thank you for being with us. we hope you will rejoin us and, monica, we, you know, every american should feel terrible for you. we hope that you will stay safe, and we're going to have to get

this fixed, and we need to get it fixed now. former president obama comments on electoral fraud. we take it up with tom fitton. he'll join us here in just moments. i hope, i hope this country is starting to get just a little angry about what has happened to us. we'll be back right after this quick break. ♪ ♪ ♪ (groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums

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delight that he can inject himself into the national conversation about electoral fraud. here he is flatly denying -- with, i'm sure, certain knowledge -- that any fraud took place. >> i have been troubled like, i think, every american whether you're a republican or democrat or independent should be troubled when you start having attempts to block, negate, overturn the people's vote when there's no actual evidence that there was anything illegal or fraudulent taking place. these are just bald assertions. they've been repeated lu rejected by the courts -- repeatedly rejected by the courts. lou: well, there he is. he's back. the former president. well, joining us now is tom

fitton, president of judicial watch. and, tom, i know you've got to be ecstatic that mr. obama is back with us and holding forth on important national issues like electoral fraud. finish your thoughts tonight. >> anyone who says there's no evidence of fraud is either willfully ugh significant or lying to you. you can say when the fraud is enough to change the outcome of the election or what notice should be given to it by legislatures or by congress when they vote electoral college votes or certify them in january. but to say there's no evidence of fraud is, is an irresponsible, to put it charitably. we have allegations in pennsylvania that votes by the hundreds of thousands were illegally counted, and and we can't verify those votes as being legitimate as a result. we have affidavits in court swearing that issues arose in the counting of ballots. there's a complaint in nevada. 15,000 instances of double voting it looks like, votes

where they were -- 15,000 votes that occurred in two states. that's evidence of fraud. to say otherwise, that might be politically useful, but it ain't true. lou: well, it's not true, and the fact of the matter is, it it is state after state after state and most of those battleground states in which that fraud could determine who the president-elect really is, whether it would be president trump or whether it would be joe biden. but right now i don't think most americans -- and i don't think, by the way, there's anything wrong at all with what i'm about to say -- i think most americans don't believe a damn thing they're being told about the outcome of this election because they're, frankly, just too many questions. we don't even know, talking earlier with a pennsylvania state republican leader and elected official, they don't

even know who the owners of dominion voting machines and voting software, they don't know who they are because they're private companies. finish the same with ess, and it goes on and on and on. there's just no explanation. and when they had an opportunity to give an explanation today to the pennsylvania state legislature, they decided not to. >> yeah. we're not allowed to ask questions. only the left is allowed to ask questions. and we're not allowed to vindicate our civil rights. only the left is allowed to pursue civil rights lawsuits. the lawsuit that the president's team is pursuing in pennsylvania, it's a civil rights lawsuit. we have a right as americans to vindicate our right to vote which is a core civil right. the left doesn't believe that. they don't believe that anyone who votes against candidates they may or may not like has the right to -- lou: well, they don't -- >> -- they don't believe that the constitution or any, any access to the rule of law through the court system applies

to people they don't like. it's totalitarianism as far as i'm concerned. they would, you know, they tried to throw this president out illegally, and now their telling him he can't exercise his rights under the constitution. they are attacking the president's right to defend himself in court in a way that -- lou: so where is the republican, where is the republican party? why aren't people standing up for this president? why is the republican party made up of so many milquetoast, soft-bellied -- let me rephrase it. why are they so timid? and why do they lack fight, and why do they insist they are principled but don't have the courage to defend principle or their own party or their own government? >> you know, all i know is what they've been doing, and there's this go along get along attitude here in washington d.c. and you can see if you the stick your head up as the president has done repeatedly over the years what happens.

they won't just disagree with you, they will try to destroy you. and the reason president trump has been so upsetting to the left and the establishment is he doesn't care. he's, you know, he's independently wealthy. he'll have a life after the presidency whether it be in january or four years from now. and he doesn't care. and he's willing to say and do things that no other politician in this town would be willing to do, or few others would be, because he doesn't play this game -- lou: so why is mitt romney -- >> -- they play. lou: why is mitt romney so gutless, says the president standing up for electoral integrity is undemocratic? >> this man, he tried -- lou: what is he? >> he trued to remove him in an election year with his coup impeachment process. and the irony is, in my view, mitt romney had the election stolen from him in plain sight because the obama irs suppressed the entire tea party movement and shut down president obama's

then most significant political opposition in a way that insured his re-election. romney has been oblivious to that. and then he goes ahead and votes for a coup impeachment of the president of the united states in an election year based on nothing? and then he starts complaining when president trump tries to, again, assert and defend his civil rights and the civil rights of tens of millions of americans. lou: yeah. mitt romney must have a stark, stark view now of the difference between a man like romney and a man like president president tr. it is awful to behold if you're mitt romney, certainly. tom fitton, great to have you with us. thanks so much. we'll continue in just one moment. stay with us, more china virus lockdowns placing restrictions on places of worship around the country. we take that up with pastor robert jeffress. are you mad yet? maybe a little uncomfortable.

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volume dropping down to 4.3 billion shares going into the weekend. a reminder to listen to my reports three times a day on the salem radio network. well, joining us now is pastor robert jeffress from the first baptist church of dallas, also a fox business contributor, great american. and, pastor, i want to get, first, your reaction to, to the w.h.o.'s regional director in europe saying, well, christians ought to follow the examples of muslims and hindus and, you know, cool it with celebrations over the holidays. your thoughts. [laughter] >> well, i new i'm going to listen to -- i think i'm going to listen to god's word rather than w.h.o. when it comes to worship. look, one of the things going on since we last talked, lou, was governor cuomo actually doubled down in his appeal to the supreme court on why he ought to be allowed to place no restrictions on pet stores, liquor stores and bug box stores, but -- big box stores but put oppressive restrictions

on churches. look, the answer is simple. i mean, the fact is what cuomo is doing is not only inequitable, it's unconstitutional. there is no first amendment right for a liquor store to be open, but the bible -- or the constitution gives an absolute right for churches to be open. our forefathers thought worship was so essential that they carved out a special exception for it in the first amendment. and, lou are, my real concern is once this pandemic is over, and it is going to be over sooner rather than later because of the great leadership of president trump and operation warp speed, but once it is past, we want to make sure that the constitution is the survivor and not a casualty of the china virus. lou: well, we sure, we sure do. but before we get there, i think we need to recognize what's going on because cuomo is leading a state that is, much of it, decidedly left of wing.

we're seeing -- left wing. we're seeing an authoritarian streak in the left that they are no longer embarrassed to exhibit. this is really a very difficult moment, but it is the also a revelatory moment. people should understand what the democratic party is. it's become a party of hate, it is authoritarian. the entire left is authoritarian. and they mean to control the lives of everyone of their constituents. and the republicans, of course, get caught in that when they lose elections. which is also a remind orer to republicans -- reminder to republicans that elections have consequences. you would not see a golf like cuomo -- a governor like cuomo in the astronaut of texas, for example -- in the state of texas, for example. first of all, he'd be run out of the state. what do you think? >> well, that's absolutely right. and the democrats are a party of restriction, they're a party of big government. and, look, we're seeing in a lot of these democrat states an

attempt to try to even regulate how you celebrate thanksgiving. i've got a pastor friend in another state who says that people, more people are allowed to attend a funeral than a thanksgiving gathering next week. and so he's telling his members to call their thanksgiving gatherings a funeral for a turkey, and they'll be okay. but, i mean, that is just absurd, what's going on you should these democrat leaders. -- under these democrat leaders. lou: it's absurd or but it's also telling. >> yeah. lou: they start telling us what we can or cannot do to celebrate thanksgiving. they then will tell us what we can or cannot do to celebrate christmas. and the level of passivity and apathy on the part of americans right now putting up with all of this nonsense, it's truly disturbing. what are you advising pastors around the country to do as they confront these orders to lock down and shut down their churches and their congregations

and also refuse to celebrate thanksgiving or christmas? >> lou, we can be socially distanced, we can practice good safety matters, but we can't shut down. and as the bible says, we need to obey god rather than man. a pastor has a responsibility to keep his church safe but to keep it open. lou: pastor robert jeffress, always good to have you here. thanks so much. good to see you, pastor. stay with us, we're coming right back. ♪ ♪

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among our guests, follow me on twitter at lou dobbs, facebook and follow me on instagram and parler at "lou dobbs tonight". thank you for being with us we hope you have a great weekend and keep fighting. good night f ♪ >> it was the political story of the decade. >> a remarkable time to be a political journalist in washington, d.c. >> the whole atmosphere was surreal. >> we like our presidents to resonate with the majesty of the office, but they're human beings and they're fallible. >> we were looking at things we didn't think, you know, could be survived. >> it's the lying that will get you in trouble. >> i'm now massively disappointed and angry, because you put a lot of risk when you do something like that. >> there is such a thing as the constitution and there is such a thing as an impeachable offense. >> it's not like you're running a hot-dog stand here. you're running the country. >> the truth did come out, but the american public never heard about it. >> bill clinton and the media and the country would never be the same. ♪