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covid-19 vaccine, and we have a potential new day for when americans could get advantage su nateed. this as warnings grow from top officials that you are responsible politicization and political attacks will slow down and interfere with when life could return to normal. also tonight more on a brand new republican squad of newcomers in the house who counteract the democrats' progressive squad. whew their message is now resonating with americans as their own families have firsthand experience fleeing persecution under socialist regimes. also this new and growing republican debate, should the biden family fully e divest out of its former business dealings including with china to insure the public space and diplomacy? just as joe biden did promise on the campaign trail they would. and we're finding it looks like the family may not have done that so far. so what problems can arise, what pressure could be i put on biden's family members here? and we'll get you updated on the growing anti-covid lockdown

protests as doctors and nurses now plead with the public, take this serious true. hospitalizations -- seriously. hospitalizations are surging. sheriffs in even more states pushing back against the lockdown measures saying they're not going to break up thanksgiving family dinnerses and go into people's private homes. also to the border, illegal immigrant border arrests are at highest levels since 2005. you'll be surprised at the percent that are repeat offenders, and guess what kinds of things they are now hiding in? also border seizures of narcotics up double and triple digits versus last year. we've got the story. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. joining me now is former u.s. attorney brett tolman. we've been talking about this, and now conservative talk show

host rush limbaugh would likely agree with you, he called out the trump legal team saying you call big pressers like rudy giuliani did, you promise you're going to deliver major blockbusters, and then you don't. and that's not good. what do you think? >> yeah. right now it is the very time that you are attempting to rally public credibility on the allegations that you've been saying for some time. it's do or die right now. i know we've been saying that for a while, liz, but the problem were is you're now starting to sense a bit of division between the legal team. i've got multiple individuals talking to me telling me there still are lawsuits to come that are going to be quite interesting to read, they're going to have some tremendous allegations in them. but we're still sitting here. we don't have them and we don't see, you know, where we're headed. elizabeth: okay. let's watch rush lumbar ball here. take a -- limbaugh here. take a listen. >> you call a gigantic press

conference like that, one that lasts an hour, and you announce massive bombshells, then you better have some bombshells. there'd better be something at that press conference other than what we got. i talked to so many people who were blown away by it, but the very nature of the press conference. they promised blockbuster stuff and then nothing happened. and that's just, that's not -- well, it's not good. elizabeth: okay. reports are coming in that the president is privately frustrated with the approach of his legal team. should he get a new team? >> it's so late in the game. what really needs to happen is the team needs to, you know, get on the same page. the division that we've seen between sidney powell, rudy and others, it doesn't have to be that way.

if you want to delegate responsibilities, look, everybody's trying to get to the bottom of whether this is, was a fair election or not, so let's see what those allegations actually amount to. right now innuendo, rumor, dropping suspicions and theories, it's over for that. that was long ago. that was fine when we were building up to this moment. but certifications are happening right now, and those lawsuits either need to produce or they need to go away. elizabeth: you know, president trump's legal team, they were talking appeals, new lawsuits, they're talking about the supreme court after that republican judge tossed their pennsylvania case. we're tracking the legal suits that are about two dozen out of about three dozen have been either tossed or denied or set aside. pennsylvania now moving to sign off on certifying results, michigan did it, is moving to as with. so that's the issue. you know, trump needs to reverse the outcome in pennsylvania. biden will not need nevada or

arizona or wu if he gets pennsylvania and michigan. that's about it, right in. >> yeah, that's right. you look at pennsylvania, and legal scholars can sit and debate. it certainly was a complaint that should have been allowed to survive. but that doesn't really matter. the time crunch right now requires more than just a traditional litigation schedule. what is needed here are allegations that are so significant that someone looks at 'em and goes, oh, wow, this is i november mouse -- enormous and could affect hundreds of thousands of votes. elizabeth: okay. let's move on to this, major criticism now picking up that biden is choosing old clinton and obama team members when he wants to move the country forward. people are saying this is like back to the future relying on the past, sullivan for national security adviser, blinken to head the state department, you know, john kerry to be his envoy for climate change, talking about former deputy to john brennan to run office of, you

know, to be the director of national intelligence. so what do you make of that storyline? >> well, you know, i think you hit it, and it's very fascinating because, i don't know, are they similar blue putting people around biden that he's going to be comfortable with and familiar and that's going to allow him to be more successful? you look at some of the individuals who have announced that they are being considered for these positions, you look at their social media, it's pictures of this many in the obama administration or with the clintons, and you just say to yourself, really? because the whole democrat platform seemed to have been we're going to do something we haven't done before. we're going to include in a broader manner voices that haven't been included. it seems the exact opposite of what it seemed the base wanted. elizabeth: okay. let's talk about this, we're seeing a bit more of what critics are saying is bias out of "the new york times". we're going to show what the same reporter has reported. he's accusing and criticizing president trump for doing exactly what president obama did, that trump is now locking

in policy, saying that's not good for trump to do that. but the times said that was okay when obama did it four years ago. the trump administration is now close to blocking nearly 90 chinese aerospace and other companies with chinese military ties from doing things like buying u.s. goods and technologies that. 's according to reuters. is so what's with the new york times here? what do you think? >> i used to think social media might actually assist in holding people accountable to positions they've taken, but i guess it's not the way it is. i guess we can take a position and then immediate lu afterwards reverse course when it's someone that we like better doing the exact same thing. let's face it, china is a huge threat to the united states. there needs to be incredible precoughs going into these relationships -- precautions, and what we have allowed chinese companies to do in this country. elizabeth: all right. brett tolman, thanks for joining us. really appreciate it.

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chief of staff mick mulvaney. hey, huck, it's always great to have you back on. let's talk about operation warp speed. astrazeneca says their vaccine is more than 70% on average effective. this is the third solid covid-19 vaccine, but the top adviser to operation warp speed, do you agree him that the fight has gotten too pretty sized, too many political attacks on it, that it's discuss tracting and interfering and delaying when lives can return to normal? what do you think? >> i absolutely agree. i think what we've just seen is very unusual in our history where political parties politicized a health event, more so the democrats than republicans. the democrats were very straight forward about it. they said they were going to make the race about covid, and they called into questions things like the veracity of the statements coming out of various pharmaceutical companies, whether or not the vaccines would be safe. they somehow planted the seed that the president was going to

rush a vaccine to market that wouldn't be safe for people to take. that's, that's extreme in our history. the good news is the vaccines are here much sooner than people probably would have expected them to be. i know it's been a long time, liz, it's been almost now a year, but that's a very short period of time when it comes to vaccines. typically you're looking at 2-3 years. so what the project warp speed and the privately-run pharmaceutical companies -- let's not get lost on that, by the way, that these are companies operating in the private sector, these are not government-owned entities as they are in other parts of the world -- are the ones that brought these vaccines to market much faster than i think anybody really expected. yes, the politicization is a bad news story, but the fact that it's here as soon as it is is certainly a good news story. elizabeth: yeah. now we're hearing americans could be advantage city naughted, maybe the first or even the second week of december. and dr. fauci saying life in

america could return to normal by april or may. he was basically, he is a veteran from glax so smith croon, he ran vaccine research for three decades or there. let's listen to what he is saying about what we're talking about. take a listen. >> so, first, we need to understand why we are in this situation. i really think it's very unfortunate that the whole process has been pretty sized -- politicized and, therefore, the conflict has created condition whereby people's per e sense has been exacerbated. we aim to be 100% transparent, to have all experts discuss in the open in the front of everybody absolutely 100% of the data and explain what the evidence is. i will continue to help as long as i'm asked to. -. i may not continue to do it full time as i have have. i volunteered my time over the last six months. elizabeth: so he's saying he may not continue to do his job. i mean, that's where the doctor

is at right now. he's talking about unfavorable media coverage that he warned about in the summer coming in delaying delivery, he's talking msnbc, cnn, senator kamala harris saying you can't trust the vaccine. what do you think, mick? >> it's a shame. to the point where you can't do your job in this country sometimes now without politics having entered into it. you just saw somebody saying, look, i want to help the country, but i'm being attacked, in this mar circumstance, by folks from the left. if you don't think there weren't highly placed democrat operatives calling out to pharmaceutical companies saying, look, if you release really good news about a vaccine before the election, you could change the outcome of the election, you shouldn't do that, then you stop paying attention to the way the country works right now. it's wrong, it's circumstances we do find ourselves in. were to figure out a way to get

out of it. i was interested to see the previous story about biden hiring a bunch of people from the obama administration. the obama administration was not well known for bringing the country together, so it doesn't look like biden's following through on that promise to try to bring the country together. look, this is a challenge, it absolutely is. it's the politicization of everything, and when you worry about whether or not a vaccine is going to make you safe or not because of politics, that's a bad place to be in this country. montana elizabeth yeah. and more than 4 out of 10 say they won't take the vaccine, according to a new poll. i mean, we had governor andrew cuomo basically talking against any rollout under president trump, joe biden saying i would not take trump's word for when a vaccine is safe, democrats describing vaccine breakthroughs as, quote, bad news. what proof do we have that pfizer delayed the release of the news of a vaccine until after the election? is there proof of that? >> i don't think there's proof. i don't think there's ever going to be any proof, i just know how

washington works. and there's the pressure that is on these publicly-traded companies, especially on these companies that have public brands, to not help president trump is going to be and has been especially considerable. what you're going to hear though now that, assuming that biden, vice president biden becomes the next president, is the democrats change their tone. and the same vaccine that comes out in january that might have come out in november is going to be safe. listen, again, it's disappointing. i'm going to take the vaccine when it comes out, i'm going to encourage my parents who are at risk to do the same e thing. we're going the try to get back to normal where if we know that a vaccine is approved by the food and drug administration in this country, it's safe regardless of which administration is in power. that has always been the case, by the way. there was never any basis for alleging that a trump administration fka was prointroducing something unsafe, but it was widely consumed by the media, other channels.

it's unfortunately, it's where we are, but i do hope we go back to someplace that's closer. elizabeth: yeah. and it's kind of reasonable that politicians are attacking the distribution plans pretending they're somehow tainted by the mere existence of the trump administration, ignoring the fact that it is state health departments that have a huge say in who gets the vaccine when. and, by the way, which vaccine would you take first? >> whichever one's available soonest. i've got parents at risk, i want them protected. you talk about the state governments, state the health agencies, but folks have never realized or thiess not talked about 95% of the people who are working on this matter are going to stay from the trump administration to the supposed next biden administration. they're career government employees. so everyone on the left wants you to think that if you would replace donald trump, it would replace the entire team. that's not the case. i think it's really sad, books will be written about it that we

have politicized up to and including a national health emergency, but we'll just have to work through it. elizabeth: great stuff, mick mulvaney. we love your insights. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: next up, federalist senior editor christopher bedford. look at this, the brand new republican squad of newcomers in the house now getting ready to stand up and counteract the democratic progressive squad. why their message is now resonating as their own families have firsthand exexperience fleeing persecution under socialist regimes and dictatorships. their story next. >> i can until you here in new york city, and i assume in cities across america, people were really fed up with the direction the democrats were trying to take us. >> i saw what happens when this runs out of money x it's not pretty. and now i came to america 20 years ago with a suitcase, actually, me and my husband. and now we're kind of going full circle.

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okay, nancy pelosi now talking about the democratic mandate in the house. but in the house is a new republican squad. they, they're calling themselves the new freedom force. they're going to counteract the socialist progressive squad run by congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. what do you make of this story? >> i think it's going to be really interesting. they made a lot of inroads largely with the help of the democrats. they're just going to need some pushes from are republicans with hispanic voters across the country. now, in the past talking about how this is socialism, this is socialism hasn't always worked with the children of exiled and the children of refugees and those who have become more american used. but when they started to see masked rioters in the streets and roving gangs attacking political opponents, that's much more reminiscent of their parents and grandparents' stories. the new representative-elect from miami, she's a moderate republican, but she's the daughter of cuban exiles, as are

a lot of people in miami x to continue bringing this message on a positive note, on the greatness of freedom, anti-communism caucus, that's a good sign. and nancy pelosi's going to have to be very, very careful in general. of she's going to have vocal hispanic voices against the squad. she's only going to have about 4, maybe more, votes she can lose in order a gain anything in the legislature. she's going to be as weak as she's ever been as speaker of the house. elizabeth: you know, it's interesting what congresswoman-elect nicole mall tackies says that alexandria ocasio-cortez is pushing such a far-left socialist agenda, moving the democrat party off of its moderate leanings in history that even people in her own district in places like brooklyn and staten island said, get in there, you've got to push back. that is the new gop anti-socialist anti-squad

member. let's listen to her and also congresswoman-elect sparks talk about this. take a listen. >> you have aoc and the socialist squad, now we have individuals who come from very diverse backgrounds, many who fled communism or socialism themselves or, like me, the daughter of a cuban will have few gee. to be -- refugee. to be those messengers, to say why is socialism bad and to tush back and fight to -- push back and preserve our liberties, reopen the economy, keep the captain leadership list system. >> we have to be smarter than that, you know? we're not going to change. there are only two systems. you have freedom and free enterprise, and you have system where government decides. and political elite ares on top how we're going to live and what we're going to do. elizabeth: you know, chris, you can hear how personal this is for them.

you can hear and feel the emotion behind what they're saying. that was congresswoman-elect sparks finishing that sound bite montage out. you know, her family came from ukraine. finish and they certainly saw firsthand what happened on the streets of ukraine. by the way, the democrat squad will likely have no luck getting their agenda through the senate if those two georgia runoffs go the republicans' way. but you could feel the emotion there, right, chris? >> you can. grain was confiscated and farmers were shot, and millions of ukrainians were starved today intentionally as a policy. that's a thing that a lot of people like aoc don't get. the victims of communism are diverse. they're not rich, white american men.

they are the core. they are ukrainians, africans, south americans, they are chinese who are still right now living in massive oppression. vietnamese, north koreans. it's unbelievable. and the coalition of people is massive, and it does not -- it represents the forces that a lot of the modern socialists and communists pretend that it it can does. elizabeth: yeah. and we continue to talk to ex-pats from cuba and other places in south america, and they say, rebootedly they bring up how president obama went to cuba right before the elections there to do things like standing up doing the wave at a baseball game in cuba while political prisoners were chained, literally chained to underground gulags in cuba, you know, not getting proper feeding or proper care. and, you know, people being killed in cuba for their political beliefs. your final word, or chris. >> this is not something that's going to end. one of the candidates for senate in georgia, a democrat, his church welcomed fidel castro e

to standing applause. castro literally banned christmas in cuba, tortured catholics, closed down churches. these are not freedom-loving people down in cuba. it's a very dangerous society and a dictatorship that still exists to oppress their people. elizabeth: good to see you, thanks for joining us, chris bedford. up next, soll wisenberg on this new and growing republican debate, should the biden family fully divest out of its foreign business dealings to insure diplomacy? this is what joe biden promised on the campaign trail. finding that the family looks like it did do that so far, so what are the problems? what could arise here? that story next. >> this really brings in a real geopolitical issue of two of our adversaries, china and russia, trying -- and hunter biden trying to broke orer a deal with

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♪ elizabeth: okay. look who's back with us, former deputy independent counsel sol wisenberg who's a fan favorite here. conservatives are ramping up this debate, should hunter biden and his uncle have any business dealings with foreign governments? we're seeing new records obtained by senate how manyland security -- excuse me, senate finance committee confirming the connections between the biden family and the chinese government as well as links between hunter biden's business associates and the russian government. what do you think, should they divestsome. >> i think that would be the wise thing to do. in part, it depends on what, if any, role they're going to have, official or unofficial, in the

new administration. that's what is usually done. my understanding is that both trump's sons put their funds into a behind trust. so either a blind trust or a divestiture is certainly something that should be talked about, sauce for the goose, as they say. there's a separate issue of investigation. i don't know that i've seen enough on the russian, what i've read about the russian connection to know if that should be done. but certainly, there's enough on the extremely large sums of money that hunter biden's law firm and other people and entities affiliated with him got that i think at least a preliminary fbi investigate would be warranted, and there might already be one going on. that's a lot of money for somebody, obviously, for -- because of who he is and not necessarily because of what his inherent value that he brings to the table. so, yes. elizabeth: are you talking about the millions that calm out of the chinese energy conglomerate

and an affiliate to hunter biden and also his business associate reportedly, rob walker? is that what you're referring to? >> i'm talking about money that went to his business associates and the two different $3 million shipments of money to, transfers of money, i believe, to his law firm. i think all of that is fair game for further journalistic investigation and for a law enforcement investigation, at least preliminary lu. and here's something -- preliminarily. even though all of that was ignored during the campaign by the mainstream media, i don't think you'll see that once biden is in power. i think you'll see them actual pay some attention to that, i really do. perhaps i'm just an i'dist, but who knows -- idealist, but who knows? elizabeth: senators ron johnson and grassley are not letting this go. their senate documents and reports that they collected,

government documents, they're asking could these foreign ties, foreign companies exert finish on anybody in the biden family because the state-backed governments, you know, that are basically funded and supported by communist regimes such as in china, they often have very powerful representation inside those companies. certainly the chairman yi who ran cesc, he's now gone missing. he was connected, thought to be connected with the people's liberation army and with chinese intelligence. so the senate report has indicated concerns about, again, extortion and more. so that, is that where the concern is, that there could be pressure brought to bar on the family members? -- to bear on the family members? >> i don't think you have to worry about yi anymore. [laughter] laugh i think -- elizabeth: i'm not saying that, yeah. >> disappeared for a long time. that's always one of the dangers, is i've done something with or for a foreign individual who's powerful, who's connected

to a foreign government. am i subject to blackmail or extortion because of that. that's, again, what we talk about with compromise. they opened a whole investigation on the trump campaign based on a very thin reed, as a.g. barr said. that's certain arely a worry and also the right thing to do. there's two issues. one is the potential for being compromised and extortion. two, why are they giving him and companies afill quainted with hunter biden all of this money, and, three, what is the right thing to do? what is considered the best practice? and the best practice is for people in the president's immediate family and the president to divest, to either put funds into a blind trust or divest themselves. now, apparently that was done with president trump's sons. it sunt done with president trump -- it wasn't done with president trump himself. i've seen all kinds of stories that his holdings benefited not

necessarily nefariously, but there's no question that some of his entities benefited from his role as president. obviously, the most obvious is the trump hotel in d.c. so i'm not saying that everything was done correctly by the trump administration, but if you want to do it the right way -- and trump was certainly criticized for that -- do it the right way. all of this is fair game. elizabeth: yeah. and joe biden said on the campaign trail that they would do that. so we'll see what happens -- >> let's see -- the. elizabeth: go ahead. >> yeah. well, he also said i never discussed or knew anything about my son's business dealings, that my son did absolutely nothing wrong. elizabeth: okay. >> so he says a lot of things. elizabeth: all right. good to see you, sol. just ahead, a sheriff coming on next about why a growing number of sheriffs in even more states are not going to enforce what they say are extreme lockdown measures like breaking up thanksgiving measures as

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: let's welcome to the show fulton county sheriff richard. what is your take the on enforcing covid lockdown measures? what are the problems with them? >> well, there are a variety of things. there's a dunches between what they're -- difference between what they're doing with

businesses, which is horrendous, restaurants, gyms, bars, stores and what they're doing with people in their own homes. every state has a different mechanism, i should say, but in new york the governor was trying to restrict your thanksgiving guests by an executive order. an executive order involving your residence is different than an executive order involving a business. let me just explain that quickly. a business has to have a license to operate. they have to operate under the state liquor laws, operate under the health d. rules. -- department rules. so when the governor says 10 p.m., masks and a limited number of people, there's a sanction under the regulatory scheme of a liquor authority or of a health department with fines, suspensions and revocations of their license. on your home is another issue. there's no penalty within the executive order. so there's no way to arrest them, there's no authority to go

into their house without a warrant or their for mission or your permission or unless there's an emergency situation. so it's putting law enforcement in a terrible position. elizabeth: yeah. that's why we've got, you know, we have thousands of people in at least 14 california cities protesting this weekend to governor newsom's curfew order. we have every county sheriff in the los angeles region saying they're not going to enforce that new curfew there, and the fresno county sheriff, she's been a guest on the show, says they've got higher priorities like gang minutes, narcotic trafficking, saving children from internet predators, and she's saying there's little data that shows curfews stop the spread. we've got major protests around the world, more than two dozen in a number of nearly three dozen countries doing protests, you know, water cannons shot at protesters in germany, unbelievable footage coming out of shanghai. so i guess the question is we have oregon governor katie brown

saying, you know, you should call the cops if you see people breaking the covid rules. covid is really serious. doctors and nurses say take it seriously. but this is where we are going in our society, where, you know, we're saying if you see people breaking covid rules like loud are parties, you know, you call the cops on loud parties. what do you think of that? >> i'll until you this, some of a these -- tell you this, some of these same governors and politicians across the country have spent the last six months telling you police are bad, police get up in the morning and want to shoot people. they've reinforced that narrative. they stood down, had police departments stand down in their cities, allowed protesters and rioters to take over police precincts and damage and vandalize buildings, and yet they want to go after citizens who want to go about their life, who aren't rioting, looting and damaging things. so a lot of what you see is covid fatigue. covid's very dangerous. people die if they're at high risk. a lot of people get sick. but here's what's going on in

the country, more people -- 40% of individuals in a recent poll -- have mental illness symptoms, they're going overstressed all the restrictions, and we're losing, and we're losing people who are at high risk. the difference is now people -- i will tell you this -- breathe elizabeth yeah, we hear you. >> -- it's hypocrisy. elizabeth: okay. let's listen -- yeah, we hear what you're saying. let's listen to this nurse in nebraska talk about what she's seeing. watch this. >> i have seen so many emergent intubations, i've seen people more suck than i've ever seen -- sick thannive ever seen in my life. they just drop so fast. we're understaffed. we have so much on our plates as nurses, there's not enough of us to help. we have, i think they said, ten

covid units, and one of those is just a place for people to go and pass away, unfortunately. please take it seriously. wear your mask. and i hope i don't see you here. elizabeth: all right, sheriff, you've got ten seconds. what's your final world? -- finl word? >> i agree, wear your mask, take precautionses. more people are going to be long-term damaged by the mental health, lockdown situation. 99% more are going to rebound. thank you very much, elizabeth. elizabeth: okay. all right. sheriff, thank you so much for coming up against a hard break. we have more show coming back in two. for over 30 years, lexus has been celebrating driveway moments. here's to one more, the lexus december to remember sales event. get 0% financing on all new 2020 and 2021 lexus models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

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again. not too long ago before the border surges we took very good care to find out what people's previous records were, biometrics and check them against terminal and immigration databases and prosecute them in the federal court or or deportation order. with happening now because of the pandemic, they're just sending people back in new mexico with an uncomplicated unwanted kind of record, these people at the border are choosing to try again so that in place a number of apprehensions in the sense of activity going on at the border. one third of people arrested are the same people have been previously arrested, i think the economy looms. liz: go-ahead to be when the economy looms in this, i am in austin and the city is seen cranes, buildings went up in every quarter, lots of construction and service jobs

even of the economic situation, they are coming back in the drives activity at the border and what also drives his activity is a potential benefit with the changes in immigration policy that might be output. liz: nearly 70000 arrests last month, the highest since 2005 and we are seeing antidote a week, for example in texas and laredo sector, border patrol agents finding people locking themselves inside furniture and appliances like washing machine, dryers, freezers, hiding inside of mattresses. the border patrol is having a double overtime to find out who is trying to get in and how they're doing it, right. >> you have to give them credit for finding out about the spots but smugglers and people who are desperate to get across will do desperate things. they will put these folks in danger and in compartments and tractor-trailer trucks and back

of trunks, it is dangerous for the individuals involved, dangerous for the border and you have to hand it to the agent out there each and every day protecting us and being able to find out about plots like this and follow along with investigations to hold the smugglers and the cartels responsible for putting people in those conditions to account for. liz: the border official is saying this is a crucial public health measure to stop the spread of coronavirus inside u.s. borders, unique threat because stash houses are not wearing masks, learn create conditions when they travel to the border and many sent back across the border trying to reenter again and again, often not taking covid-19 protections, we also see this drug seizures at the border up triple digits versus last year, talking about cocaine sees that the border 60 and andrea bocelli to present higher than last year,

methamphetamine, heroin up 200%, that would be a tripling in fentanyl, seizures in fentanyl from last year. >> this is society not the border, increased activity, part of it is due to the pandemic, we have been shut down if you read the newspaper and watch television, depression is up, alcohol uses up so the domestic effect of having the shut down and people turning to the hard narcotics, the cartels have stayed in business and in effect you have agents on the border patrol who are not focused now on delivering commodities like diapers and baby formula to large groups and families coming to the border, more deployment out there for the border patrol and give them ability to do more with the same workforce. liz: ronald th thank you for

joining us. i am elizabeth macdonald, that doesn't press, thank you for watching, we hope you have a good evening. ♪. lou: good evening, everybody another major breakthrough in the fight to wipe out the china virus, uk drugmaker astrazeneca and the university of oxford announcing their vaccine up to 90% effective in preventing the virus, the astrazeneca becomes a third candidate with at least 90% efficacy since election day. the other two motor not in pfizer biontech which are