maybe there will be booze, to, you know, recover from the disaster that happens in the oven or fryer outside. you? ashley: small family gathering. i have a very small family. any gathering is always small. happy thanksgiving to you and to everyone else. my time is up. neil cavuto, happy thanksgiving, sir. neil: to you as well. lauren as well. hope it's a very restful day for you guys. careful on that turkey, lauren. i would have a reservation ready just in case. it feels good to have that fall-back. at the corner of wall and broad, the dow jones industrials are down from the 30,000 plus levels we reached. that is not a shock. it's sort of the come-down based on nothing more than hey, that was a pretty historic ride yesterday. we are on top of that. also on top of a lot of folks still flying, still trying to head out to your home, whether you invited them or not. there are restrictions in certain cities and states, some as few as five people. what if you have more than five

people in your own family? they have to draw straws on who eats outside. the cdc guidelines are very tough on that. they don't want you to travel, but millions are. let's get the lay of the land with charles watson at atlanta international airport. atlanta, the focus of a lot of things but right now, travel blitz under way. hey, charles. reporter: good afternoon, neil. you're right, a travel blitz is under way. we have seen a steady flow of people going in and out of hartsfield-jackson international airport all morning long and what's clear that is people are determined to stick with their thanksgiving holiday plans. airports are seeing some of the largest crowds that they have seen since before the pandemic began, with more than four million people screened since friday. regardless, public health experts say millions of people traveling right now is just a recipe for disaster. dr. fauci has said that what we are seeing now, the levels of travel that we are seeing right

now, will reflect in the covid-19 numbers in just a few weeks. as pandemic fatigue sets in, many travelers saying they are willing to risk flying if it means they get even the slightest hint of normalcy again. >> we can't stop living. i think it's really important that everyone takes precautions. reporter: for the most part, folks we have spoken to so far say they feel good about travel. they are following those public health guidelines, wearing a mask and social distancing so they think this travel for the thanksgiving holiday will turn out perfectly but of course, proof will be in the pudding when we see the numbers in just a few weeks. neil? neil: charles, have a great thanksgiving. charles watson, middle of all that mess in atlanta, georgia. let's go to jeff paul in santa monica, california. in case you haven't heard, there are all sorts of restrictions going on in california, not only do you have to wear a mask if you are home and watch how many people come to your home, but

even for outdoor dining, it's verboten. what's going on? reporter: yeah, it's kind of a bittersweet day in l.a. county, especially for the restaurants and servers and all the staff who work inside those buildings, because tonight at 10:00, this outdoor restaurant ban goes into effect and a lot of these businesses have put up a lot of money into making sure they can sort of break even at least during this pandemic, what's been a very down year. now they feel with this ban, what little they have is sort of being taken away from them and servers are worried they are going to be losing their jobs. >> it affects me and my family for sure, 100%. i'm basically the bread winner of my family, working here is going to be a very big drastic change because we're not employed anymore. reporter: there was a push to undo the county health department's ban on outdoor dining. a lawsuit was filed by the california restaurant

association claiming the burden was on the county to scientifically prove outdoor dining was making the pandemic worse. a judge ruled the restaurant group didn't have enough evidence to overturn the ban on their own, but left the door open to review solid evidence if they found any. three of the five l.a. county commissioners currently support the three-week ban on outdoor dining. they are concerned about overwhelming the local health care system as the coronavirus cases here in l.a. county continue to surge. the other two county commissioners were fairly vocal in their disapproval of the ban. one county commissioner says he feels like they are punishing an industry that has bent over backwards to comply with health protocols. >> -- one industry based on really no science concerns me. i feel it's arbitrary and punitive. reporter: the l.a. county sheriff's department says they're not going to be out arresting people. they are going to use it as a

time to educate, to have conversations with people, but neil, if you are in the area or going to be spending money this weekend with restaurants, maybe send a little extra that way because that could be the last few dollars they get for the next three weeks. neil: you are exactly right. i hope you try to squeeze in a little thanksgiving time yourself. have a safe and happy time. santa monica, california. in new york, they have had limitations as well but the latest sort of, i don't know if you call it scare but it's sort of, i don't know, it does seem big brotherish, various covid checkpoints along bridges and tunnels in and out of new york city. the former governor george pataki on all of that. governor, it's all about keeping people safe, i get that, but on top of restrictions on dining and the like and how many you can have at your house and whether you should wear a mask and who's going to be policing you, man, oh, man, this is getting excessive. >> this is getting absurd.

it just makes no sense at all. yes, you want to protect the people but you want to base it on science. these are political decisions that are being made. the most clear example of that is new york city schools shutting down. the rate of infection of kids in the schools was way under 1%, yet the schools are shut down, the parents' lives are disrupted, the kids can't get the appropriate education and one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. it seems like the mayor and the governor are two children fighting it out in public, with one saying one thing and the other doing the opposite. it's sad. neil: you know, you think about it, even a number of republican governors are upping the ante a little bit because of spikes in their respective states and urging masks, demanding that, so it has gotten to the point it's a little out of control. look what's going on in new york. if you were still governor, and you served for three terms of 12 years, that's close to a record among all governors, but how would you handle this without,

you know, stomping on people's personal freedoms and letting them -- >> absolutely -- neil: what would you do? >> i would do things very differently. first i would make the decisions based on sound science, not based on the political feeling of the moment. that comes down to the source. there's almost universal recognition that certainly up to the high school level, the kids are among the least likely to get or spread the covid virus, yet we have the schools closed down not on science but on the power -- neil: we had some audio issues there. i apologize for that. i wish the governor a good thanksgiving. i want to go to morris miller. maybe i can oversimply saying his company makes covid-killing robots. very very cool. looks like you are looking at a preview to a movie. but they do the trick. they work. now they are in demand in all

sorts of businesses, even private uses. morris is the ceo and joins us now. sir, thank you for taking the time. explain how this works. >> good morning. good to see you again. happy thanksgiving. inside of the robot is a xenon lamp that puts out high intensity ultraviolet light. it's been proven to kill sars-cov-2 that kills the virus in two minutes, deactivating the pathogen, so it can't infect somebody else. neil: how long once you zap a room, for want of a better term, is that room covid-safe? >> so as long as somebody that isn't covid-positive, as long as they don't sneeze or cough on the surface, it can stay safe for a very long time. the idea is to follow the cdc guidelines. this is an acute treatment to disinfect all of the spaces. this is being used in the san

antonio international airport even though travel is way down, they are trying to instill confidence in the passengers and basically they are going to the kiosk, check-in stations, bathrooms, everywhere where somebody might touch, they are periodically disinfecting it, bringing down the pathogen load. that creates a safe environment. like the governor was just saying, this is all science-based. nine navy hospitals are using this around the country, over 100v.a. and d.o.d. facilities. this is how the government is doing their best job using the most powerful uv robot in the world to disinfect their environments. neil: so again, we chatted about this last time you visited about when you hit a room or make sure it's, you know, infection-free, how long is that process and again, to your point, if someone comes in, has covid and sneezes, that's a whole other matter, grant you, but how long, barring that, is that room, is that

area, is that work space or whatever you're addressing, safe to be in? >> right. the robot has about a seven-foot wingspan on each side so 14-foot diameter. it's going to go in there in that two minutes, it's going to disinfect the environment. as long as you are doing a nice job of maintaining your cdc protocols, it could stay disinfected the entire day, night. certainly until it's disinfected again. the idea is to be very consistent. that's what the hospitals have done. by doing that, the hospitals have reported dramatic decreases in patients getting infections. those are things that are even more serious potentially, more dead deadly. mrsa, staph, vancomycin resistant, things that have no antibiotics use for. neil: how distracting are the bright lights when you first put

it on? obviously you're not in the room through that whole process, or are you? what do you do? >> right. no. so the robots have been run, i think we are at 25,900,000 cycles. a room somewhere in the world is disinfected with the robot every 4.3 seconds. it's being used in commercial highrises, like paramount miami world center. the light is unquestionably distracting. that's because it is such an intense photon that's hitting the pathogen that's basically exploding it open like breaking an egg, where all of a sudden it's not going to grow -- neil: you don't want people in the room while this is going on, right? ideally, you want to address it, the robots do their thing, people can come in the room afterwards and it's in good shape presumably, right? >> you got it. that's exactly right. neil: does this work on in-laws? no, that's a whole other issue we will get into. i'm really intrigued by this. are my in-laws watching? it's a joke.

morris, good thanksgiving to you. be safe, be well. this is very cool stuff. it does the trick. it works. it puts a lot of people's minds at ease. xenex ceo morris miller. we still have these various protests, legal and otherwise, going on over the election even though the transition is very much on and anything the biden folks want from this administration, they can get, they share a lot of that. but that does not mean the president has given up his legal fights to turn this all around. the latest on where that stands, after this. businesses today are looking to tomorrow.

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neil: all right. just because states are busy now ratifying their votes, oftentimes confirming joe biden's victory, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, whathave you, that doesn't mean the legal fight doesn't continue on the part of the administration. the pennsylvania state senate, for example, is going to be holding a hearing on testimony involving election fraud, but despite talks that the president himself would be attending this, that part isn't going to be happening. we have the latest from pennsylvania. hey, david. reporter: hey, neil. good afternoon from gettysburg, pennsylvania. interesting last few hours. this was not an official trip on

the white house schedule, but we are told president trump had every intention of coming here today. secret service was here this morning scoping things out. they are now gone after word came down that the president is no longer coming. i want to show you some video, though, of some ardent trump supporters out here. they have been out here for several hours yelling four more years, talking about the year 2024, hinting that they want president trump to run again. the first time if he did and won since grover cleveland in the 1880s. also here today, the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, and jenna ellis. they will take part in what's being called a hearing on allegations of voter irregularities. to be clear, there's no judge here. this hearing is taking place at this hotel, not at the state capitol in harrisburg. giuliani continues to fight in the keystone state despite pennsylvania votes being certified in favor of joe biden. the announcement was made

yesterday about that certification. this morning, the president's daughter-in-law says wait a minute. listen. >> which is why we are saying we want every legal vote counted. we are continuing to push forward and make sure that that happens. i know there are a lot of people that just want to sweep this under the rug and say okay, well, we're done with this election. we are far from done with this election. reporter: the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani is hoping to argue in front of the third circuit court of appeals in pennsylvania after the circuit court of appeals, then things would go to the supreme court. that's his ultimate goal. he's made no secret of it. but supreme court watchers down in washington, d.c. say they don't expect him to go before the supreme court as the court may not want to get involved with such a politically charged case, not to mention we are almost at the end of november and the states have to choose their electors and the electors have to vote by december 14th. ne il:il lilfhe t heav aeadyeady oneo sr o a lst min mgov mn mn at reioren. thyo veruuuch, m my friefr.fr.

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number of votes, but the other guy got more votes. and that's what's standing. what happens now is the december 8th is another date we are looking at, which is called the safe harbor day. by then, if a court or state hasn't held for you in your challenge to the results of the election, you're not going to get anywhere beyond that. that's sort of the last date. then the electors meet on december 14 and we get a new president. neil: you know, much is made of the fact the president, i think maybe in your paper, i think there were polls that show among republicans, for 2024, not surprisingly, the president is the overwhelming preferred choice. that could change based on what he does and how he acts over these next few weeks. i'm wondering how he calibrates

that, if this does look like it will end up as it looks it will be, joe biden transition and he's the next president, does he hurt his efforts to continue to fight this, forget about the runoff election in georgia and everything else, does he hurt his own chances for 2024? >> i think it goes both ways, neil. in some regards, it's just denial, but the president, if he kind of cooks up a good enough story of him having been cheated out of the election, which he was not, he wasn't cheated out of the election, the other guy just got more votes, then that gives him momentum into continuing that story and he makes up stories and there's a lot of disinformation, and he kind of thrives on that, and this may energize his base going into a 2024 campaign. it's entirely possible. on the other hand, what you're suggesting is also a good possibility, which is that those

voters that he needs to bring into his camp are looking at this and saying it's kind of undignified, he's refusing to concede, he has said he's not going to concede, he probably won't concede, and that will turn some voters off. so it depends. he got 70 million votes. that was a pretty substantial, you know, success in the election. and he wants to hang on to those if he goes into a 2024 campaign. our reporters are saying that in the white house right now it's kind of an odd tenor. usually people hang around outside the oval office hoping to get into the oval office and to be asked their opinion and play a part in the day's events. right now they are not doing that. people are avoiding it because they don't want to be dragged into a possible kind of hare-brained claim on the president's part of this or that having happened in this or that state. they just don't want to get involved in the legal

interactions. she quotes one white house source as saying everybody's trying to straddle the fence and avoid him flipping out. neil: well, i'm sure it can be tense, understandably so, given that. i'm curious, normally presidents who have been able to come back from this or at least a loss and then come back and how gracious they were in defeat or in the case of grover cleveland, the last president to serve two terms and they weren't concurrent, he had won the popular vote in the second election so he had some grounds to stand on. andrew jackson famously in losing to adams, he had won that vote as well. in fact, he secured everything except the final house vote that went the other way, and it was something he could ride to victory four years later. this president, outside of an impassioned base, it feels that he was given short shrift, there he doesn't have much of a leg to stand on outside of, as you pointed out, incredible number of votes. the other guy did get more.

so it's not as if he won the popular vote. it's not as if it was raz razor-tight in the electoral vote. it makes it a more difficult pitch, doesn't it? >> yeah, it does. and his opponent, joe biden, has twice as large of a spread in the popular vote as hillary clinton had. in other words, twice as -- it's a big gap between the popular vote for joe biden and -- upwards of six million, and president trump. that said, though, this was an incredible turnout of the he lele electorate. the president got the most votes that have ever been received in a presidential election, but the second most votes a candidate has ever received in a presidential election was president trump. so he's thinking about this and our reporters are saying there's a lot of things going on in his

mind right now, discussions in the white house of kind of what is he going to do next, how does he stay relevant in the republican party, in the media, how does he make money. all those things are kind of going around in his head and he's got to be thinking that was a pretty good turnout that he was able to produce, can he surf that into a successful 2024 return to the white house. neil: he certainly has an impassioned base and to your point, that's a good head start on anyone else's party that's contemplating a run four years from now. have a great thanksgiving. thank you very very much. "wall street journal" fame, much much more. joe piscopo coming back, not making light of all these political fights but maybe in the state of new jersey, the demand over how many can be at your house. are you going to knock on his door to count heads? just saying. might be a little chancy. after this.

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neil: all right. back under 30,000 right now. an incredible week for the markets. a little bit of a give-back is probably in order but i'm wondering how things are being sort of set up for the last few weeks of the year. for that, i'm happy to be joined as i have all this year, these are great people besides being real smarty-pants, gary b. smith and adam leshinski, bestselling author, much much more. adam, we begin with you on yesterday crossing 30,000, it's not a surprise for people to pull back a little bit, but i was hearing maybe it was in the "journal" you know, dow 40,000. think about it, that would be about a 33% or so run-up. we have had years that got close to that, '75, 1975, we ran up 38%. i guess you could make a case for making that leap.

the bigger these numbers are, the closer those milestones are, you know? >> well, that's true. and anything's possible, neil. but i certainly wouldn't be looking for it in the next 12 months. it's obvious that markets like certainty and knowing who the president is going to be and knowing or at least having a strong indication that the next president is going to be less erratic in all sorts of ways than the current president obviously is making markets very comfortable. that said, and of course, the fact the vaccines are coming is also very good news. but there's a lot of uncertainty. we don't know what the scarring from this economic downturn is going to be. a lot of people are still out of work and that's going to be a problem for the economy going forward. retail's going to be a very mixed bag. things like aviation is a very mixed bag. so there are a lot of risks that could prevent the market from going to 40,000 any time soon. neil: you know, you could talk

about the scarring that he just did, gary, but it's not nearly as much scarring as people thought we would be facing. half the jobs lost have come back, retailing looks pretty strong going into the holiday season. not for everyone, for every gap there are many many other companies like amazon and target and walmart that are doing more than fine. so i'm wondering if this recovery that is built into a lot of what the market's been doing, not that we necessarily go to 40,000, don't get me wrong, but add that to the vaccines and the fact that maybe the whole virus scare dissipates mightily on the first half of next year, they hope, then what? play that out. >> i think you're looking at dow 40,000. i will give you a kind of counter to adam's point. he made some great points and also, you know, just looking at technically, the dow was down at the beginning of this year when we were still kind of in the

midst of reacting to covid. almost 10,000 points. it's risen up and you know, as you just made the point, to new all-time highs. that was about -- so you look just at the chart, you have about another 10,000 points on the upside, it kind of formed a big bowl there. fundamentally, what more people are familiar with, not only do you point out that we kind of fought our way economically through the pandemic, and we're not through it yet but you know that come january, the biden administration's going to do everything possible, whether it's stimulus, whether it's accelerating the vaccines even further, helping out small businesses to get this economy really roaring again, i really think that's going to happen. the biggest part will be the vaccines and how quickly they get distributed. just to make people, you know, even if they're not fighting the virus, feel good about going out again and start to alleviate some of the restrictions that

you have in places like california. i think all that bodes well for really some jet fuel to this market and to this economy. neil: you know, when you talk about what we might be seeing out of a biden administration, we do know that it's going to be pushing stimulus, we do know certainly given the attention on getting even something done in a lame duck session, i'm wondering, adam, if we could see a lot of this stimulus activity building before biden even takes office. >> certainly possible. i think gary makes a lot of smart points. i know it's more fun when he and i disagree with each other. all of these things are totally possible. neil: that's if you yell and scream and curse at each other but you are such gentlemen, i don't even know you disagree. you seem to be very amiably getting along. >> i want to wish both of you a very happy thanksgiving.

also, another positive is for the markets, is there's this assumption the biden administration will do a lot of re-regulation of the economy, but that's not going to happen any time soon. i just think the major thing that investors need to be concerned about is how much of this is already priced in. in other words, how much have we already assumed these things. i think the answer is quite a lot. neil: here's where i might disagree with you. i will pursue it a little bit with gary. i do think there's going to be more regulation, by simply unwinding the regulations the president, president trump, put into place. that was what started out his presidency. i think this president will unwind a lot of them on environmental issues, a lot of financial regulation, all that sort of stuff. some might be very wise to start unwinding. others might be very risky. i don't know if the market is prepared for this slew of executive orders that could be

coming to undo what donald trump did in the beginning. those were developments, market-wise, that were deemed favorable events long before the tax cuts came. but your thoughts on that, gary? >> well, you make a great point but look, i was no fan of what the obama economic team and obama himself did with the economy. it was kind of as i often said, kind of the malaise period. that being said, the stock market did pretty well. so if your question is hey, gary, is the stock market going to do well, i got to say well, it's certainly going to do no worse, i think, that happened under obama. maybe biden's a little bit more conservative. so that will help. now, economically, do we have the good growth, the good unemployment numbers at least pre-pandemic that we did under trump, i don't think so. i think unemployment's going to certainly drop from here, but i don't think it's going to drop

down to as well as the numbers showed during the trump administration. i think the economy will still do well. i don't think it will do as well. i think the stock market, though, still has a good shot at doing well. neil: all right. we will watch it very closely. guys, have a wonderful, safe thanksgiving. i don't know how many you are going to have at your home but i will be watching closely and making sure i get someone to knock at your door and count heads. thank you again, guys. in new jersey, that's something they worry about a lot. joe piscopo, very big powerful force in the garden state, has a few choice words about how the present governor is making a lot of new jerseyans upset. some take it out on the governor. when he was out at a restaurant. after this. it was 1961 when

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neil: all right. well, we told you about all the americans who are traveling this week, millions flying. it's not like we had last year at this time but it's very strong considering the cdc has urged people not to do that. i want to go to joe piscopo, former "snl," he's a legend on there, one of the best ever, his very very popular radio show here and his comments on limiting the number of people at his house. what are you going to do? >> it's not fair, you know. we're italian. you got to have at least 14, 15 people. i like the way they say no raising your voice. we are italian, we are from new jersey. it's thanksgiving. it's part of the festivities to scream at each other, you know? so i'm going to adhere to the law of the land but it's wrong. i will tell you that right now, my friend. neil: all right. they try to limit it to under 10 people, right? but how do you police that? what do you do if someone does tap at your door? >> you know, i think law

enforcement in jersey is not going to back the governor. he doesn't understand what it's like. you can't tell people of new york or new jersey what to do. that's what governor cuomo, governor murphy are trying to do. you can't do it, neil. we are from new york and new jersey. are you talking to me, are you talking to me? you know what i mean? we all got that thing you don't want to be told what to do in the great state of new jersey and certainly new york. honestly, we are being careful, we are social distancing. i will go see my mom. we will do the sliding glass, oh, my goodness gracious. it's ridiculous but you have to do it because better safe than sorry. we are going to go visit -- neil: the one smart thing, to your point, it's a smart thing, i think this is where governor murphy was a little shrewder than governor cuomo on this, without saying i'm going to enforce it. he just said everyone use common sense. the governor in new york was

criticizing the police who said they would not listen to this order, comparing them to essentially dictators, calling what laws they are going to honor and what laws they're not, where the governor in new jersey sort of said this is highly recommended, hope you do what i say and leave it at that, which is probably a smarter approach, you know? >> it really is. but i got to tell you, governor murphy's a nice guy. i know all my patriot friends are not going to like me saying that, but he is. he's a good guy. people came up to him and they confronted him and i got to tell you, that jersey in your face, that is so jersey. the poor governor didn't know what to do. he's looking around, he puts his mask on. but you know what, it wasn't right they did it. that wasn't right. i think it was rather rude, actually, even for new jersey. neil: yeah. he's with his family at this restaurant, a woman comes up and

accosts him. he's doing everything by the letter of the law. he's with his family, they are keeping their distance, it's a small group but obviously this woman isn't crazy about it, talking about some of his other restrictions. i think what was interesting is one of the governor's children sort of went back at the woman. i'm sure the governor did not think that was such a good idea. the odd thing was the governor wasn't doing anything wrong, but that's the risk you take when you go out in a public forum. so it wasn't like governor newsom in california violating these rules, going out, you know, at a crowded table, crowded restaurant and all. he was doing everything to the letter. just there are some people who just tired of this, right? >> exactly. it's nice to see the governor be accosted by housewives of new jersey. that's what it was. neil: you have to deal with that a lot. >> you kidding me? nobody cares. tell you what we're doing, honestly. going to my mom's house.

i'm going to be on the deck. i'm bringing all my kids. we're going to do a little, i swear to god, we are going to do a performance on the deck with my mother behind the sliding glass door. i'm going to do a little guitar, you know. neil: awesome. >> i will sing -- [ laughter ] neil: that's a great idea. so when do you run for governor? >> oh, lord. you know, we are doing so great on the radio station, thanks for plugging it, i appreciate it. i don't know how to step away. i'm telling you, if this ever is now because now, you can't dictate. now they are trying to boss us around, you know, trying to just hold us down. look, we are americans. we are all good people. no matter what politically you believe in, we are good people. one of these days, neil. i swear god. one of these days, my friend. neil: all right. you tease me but you don't ever answer me which i admire.

you are already in crafty politician. real quick, i got to ask joe what he makes of this. jim carey as biden on "snl." what do you think of that? >> this guy is electric. he's brilliant. he's such a great performer and he owns it. jim carey owns it right now. whether you agree politically or not with what they do on "snl" the performance of carey absolutely genius. you tacan't take that away. i want to go on and do jerry nadler. that's my impression i want to work on. so esoteric kind of thing. jim carey, right on the money. neil: the nadler thing might be a limited audience. it might work. i don't know. boris johnson, possible. i don't know. we'll see. always great, my friend. thanks for all of your great appearances this past year. your fine radio show. you bring both sides together

and you know you do it, i know you're not one to accept compliments, you do it with laughs. at our core, we are all pretty decent people. we like a good laugh. that's what cuts through a lot of the frost. we need a lot more of that in 2021. >> happy thanksgiving, neil. thank you so much, my friend. neil: all right. i will let you go back to your bruce wayne office in your mansion there. >> i'm in the kitchen to cook now. you got it right there, come on. neil: joe, thank you very very much. happy thanksgiving. keep making people happy. we have had such a polarizing year where people were yelling and screaming at each other. i get a couple of e-mails that can be a little nasty but i think sometimes you have to step back from that and realize we get through this, conservative, liberal, nasty or not, we get through it. if joe's an example, with a good

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neil: all right. despite another count going on in georgia, that runoff election that could decide the shape and balance of the power of the united states senate is still

going on. steve harrigan following these developments. i don't know if he's got a condo or home in atlanta given his time there but he might look into it quite seriously. what's the latest? reporter: hey, neil. ordinarily it's tough to get out the votes in a runoff election. two scheduled here for the senate for january 5th. but it looks like this could be the exception in time around. already 700,000 georgians have asked for absentee ballots. that's about triple the number that asked in 2018. also spending on this two-month campaign is really off the charts. more than $270 million on tv ads, most of that negative advertising. that's more money than was spent on the primaries and the general election combined. >> there will be more boots on the ground to engage voters than we've ever seen before and that will include all kinds of campaigning, canvassing, door knocking. reporter: the runoffs take place january 5th. none of the four candidates got

the required 50% of the vote and those two races could actually determine control of the senate. that's why we are seeing so many high profile politicians for both parties come through georgia. as you mentioned, the presidential ballot is still being counted here in georgia. it's a recount and this is actually the third time it's been counted. even though the numbers have already been certified by the governor of georgia, the race is still simply that close. biden with a lead of more than 12,000 votes. election officials here say they don't expect any change from this latest third recount. neil, back to you. neil: i'm curious, the president's battle to count every vote and all of that, then the division among the powers that be within the republican party, the two republican senate candidates, of course, who wanted the secretary of state to go, the president dumping on the same secretary of state, how is that affecting this race, or is it? i can understand galvanizing the troops and those loyal to the president to bring that base out and support these candidates, or

it could backfire. reporter: i think there is some concern among republicans that the message is getting mixed, that there's so much focus on protesting this presidential vote which has already come and gone pretty much, the 16 electoral votes awarded to biden, that the two republicans are being left out as far as messaging goes and this could be key two races which could determine control of the senate, control of the agenda for the next four years. i think there's some concern. mixed messaging not helping the republican candidates at this point. neil: all right. steve, thank you very much, my friend. have a great thanksgiving. steve has been everywhere, he's covered battles and crises in jungles and war zones. now he's in the middle of something quite similar, actually, going on in atlanta, georgia. all right. we are one hour into this show and a lot more to tell you about the dow, trying to claw back from the lowest levels of the day. we've got a bit of a comeback going on. remember, we crossed 30,000 yesterday and people didn't think that was remotely doable.

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neil: nothing like last thanksgiving when you had close to 10 million americans hitting the nation's airport over the brief. right up until thanksgiving but close to 2 million it is drawing a lot of folks at the cdc did not want to see any of that especially in the nation where the pandemic seems serious bikes across the country, the cdc has been saying postpone your thanksgiving plans to keep everyone safe, they are not doing that, people are still traveling and some of them on the air, traveling, jeff flock in chicago with what is happening there. >> i think some people feel it is safer if they drive to know that they can be in their own enclosed space, not to have to deal with the airports or train or god for bid or something like that. , they had a miserable day in the midwest, we are told is headed toward you in the

northeast and the interstate 55, were heading into chicago, 294 in a minute for those who know the local roads, as you can see there's quite a bit of traffic, take a look at the numbers, traffic will be down this day according to aaa, not that much, 4%, last year, if you look at the airplane travel i just mentioned, that is way down, about 47%, people not wanting to take the plane but take the car instead in one of the reasons you look at the situation in l.a. and maybe put up the tree from the los angeles mayor who says if you fly into l.a., i can't read it word for word because i'm driving but if you put the tweet up there this is essentially if you fly into lax or van nuys, you have to online fill out a form, you know you

are supposed to self quarantine for 14 days, doesn't say you have to do it but you have to fill out the form this is your aware of it. if not you can get a $500 fine, if you want to go to l.a. covid you could drive that would be another way to go. a lot of people have made the decision if you can perhaps see, go ahead and go to grandma's house or somebody's house, i don't know whether it will be as big as it used to be but people still traveling, one final note that is on gas prices if you have to travel, normally we care more about this these days, i don't think we care so much but prices are pretty low whole lot lower than last year end even down in the last week or so or month or so. not a pretty day to be traveling, i'm going to miss my exit and wind up in trouble, what can i tell you i don't have to stand out in the rain at least. happy thanksgiving.

neil: i don't know if it applies where you are and i don't want to distract you but in new york they have covid checkpoints on bridges and tunnels, anything like that out by you? >> they are not doing that here, there is a requirement if you come from out-of-state they supposed to illinois so a deeper 14 days but there is no batista that at the moment, i will suspect there will be until we get worse but at this point no. neil: jeff, be safe, you been valuable reporting everywhere from natural disasters to today traveling and driving. it'll end soon, we hope. happy thanksgiving, let's go to the los angeles airport ceo, we were just talking about the number of people who are opting to fly, better than 2 million log on from last year, it's

probably about 2 million more than the cdc wants, worried that it's going to lead to a spike in cases beyond the spike in cases but your argument when flying it's going to be pretty safe. >> absolutely, first of all just to be clear if mayor garcetti and governor newsom made it clear that people should avoid traveling for thanksgiving, for those that need to travel, it's been our priority to make sure that our airports are clean, healthy and safe for passengers and employees during this period. we have taken all types of majors to sanitizer airports to promote physical distance d, waiver requirement for all people to wear facemasks in the terminal, we put up plexiglas barriers, we have all types of

touchless technology so people can get through without having to make contact with devices or people or exchange documents. were doing everything we can to make sure airports are clean, healthy and safe as possible for anybody traveling during this period. neil: what's the number one thing to look out for, i know people are spread out, there aren't as many but there's certainly more than a month ago given the approaching holidays, that's understandable. but people are leery about being around other people, what do you do? >> the first thing that you do, before you leave your house to the airport, going look at the airport website to see all the majors that they have in place, you can go to fly lax.com, travel safely and see all the things that we have in place and all the requirements for what you should do to prepare and have a safe and healthy journey, once you get here make sure you're wearing your facial covering and make sure you're providing physical distancing

and heed all the signage that we have in the airport about how to keep yourself safe throughout your journey and follow all the protocols of the public health agencies, washing your hands frequently, maintaining the proper physical distancing and we are doing everything that we can and we also need passengers to cooperate with us to make sure the following on the protocols that we have in place. neil: let's hope everyone does that. thank you very much the los angeles world airport ceo, as he indicates a mayor and the governor can recommend all they want, the cdc can recommend all they want, but millions are, that's keeping safe. in the meantime you heard about a three, possibly for possibly five potential vaccines that could be at the ready, you always ask yourself how did they get all of the stuff out there

and how to various cities and states deal with all of that. kristina partsinevelos dealing with all this in new york city. >> like you just mentioned you have gone from concept to reality with distribution as early as mid december but the big question is how will you rollout all of the vaccines and can you force americans to take it. much like lockdown in-state home mandates it is up for the state to decide. so far no state has put into law that you need to take the vaccine that it is mandatory. we can expect a peace approach, is a tennessee for example the governor just came out saying he will not mandate public schools therefore his children do not need to be forced to take the vaccine but let's bring it back to new york, the new york state bar association that passed a resolution urging the state to mandate all new yorkers to take the vaccine regardless of religious or personal reasons so

of course i'm standing here and were talking about distribution and they can be stated in life are in the thing but these are common occurrences in metropolitan cities, asked new yorkers, how did they feel about mandating vaccines going forward, listen to what they had to say. >> if it's for the best of the community i would be all for it, i don't think they should be in dated but i think was people will take it anyway. >> i would wait because i don't trust it, what were essentially doing we are injecting, inoculating a virus that were not familiar with the. >> regardless if states mandate or not, you have private employers that can do so, so imagine you have to go to work, take the vaccine or you try to go to the gym and take the vaccine, the largest australian airline said they will mandate

vaccines along international flights, the first major airline to do so but we could see other private enterprises follow suit. back to you. neil: thank you very much for that, have a great thanksgiving, kristina partsinevelos and all the middle that, speaking of thanksgiving we are leanin leare baltimore ravens game against the pittsburgh steelers has been moved from thanksgiving date to sunday, apparently siding covid-19 coronavirus cases detected in the ravens training camp, this is coming via cbs sports radio, on twitter as well that not the first time we seen the laser schedules on professional football front but certainly the college football front but again another reminder that it is with us and upended at some schedule and the fact that we don't know exactly in this case how that will alter plans sunday games and so for this is only one on thanksgiving day that has been pushed back to sunday. stay with us we will have more

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you make of where we are ending, i have another month to go, i don't want to minimize that, anything can and will likely happen, we learned that, it's been a remarkable comeback from the worst of the we slipped under 19000 and every woman saying next up 10000, look at this what do you think of all of this. >> is really incredible when you take a look at the stock market, and wants to go up, if you go back some months and it looks like joe biden was going to win, the market went up then it look like trump was making a comeback and then the market went up and then it look like joe biden was indeed and then the market went up, clearly there is american optimism out there that wants this market to go up, it is confidence that we are ultimately going to get past this pandemic, it's obviously not going to happen this year but i think when we get in

solidly into the first quarter and certainly into the second quarter of 21 i see good things ahead for a lot of reasons. neil: what about you scott? >> i agree like dan said, the market is thinking about december and thinking about january for about 15 minutes and the rest of the time the market is thinking about june of 21, my next birthday or the end of 21 or even 2022 when we pullout of the vaccine and the virus concern and we look at the great things that have happened in my opinion behind the scenes as a result of the pandemic, all the technology that's been developed, the efficiency that businesses have created in hiring going on in hiring and re-firing with respect to areas in tech and healthcare, there is a lot of great efficiency in new technology and new ways of working that have benefited from the shutdown that we have had over the course of the last several months depending on

where you live and what to do, those are the underlying structures that are built into the market pricing and the things that we can build on going forward next year. neil: daniel also an accountant, and a very good one, i'm wondering how your preparing clients for certainly higher taxes where you are or where i am in new jersey, but nationally, the plan that joe biden keeps out there and he isn't backing away from, high taxes on the thousand dollar and overcrowd, that is still one, is he giving people any caution? >> it has to because only thing standing in between all of us, not those over 400,000 in my opinion, all of us from where we are now in higher taxes is a republican senate. it looks like it's going to be that way, however, we cannot bank on anything particularly if

her going to be relying on polling so we have to look at the situation and say taxes are going to go up potentially substantially so what does that mean, it means you have to look at how you can potentially accelerate some income into 2020 if you have some gains out there you may want to take some money off the table and let's not forget the estate tax, if you're gonna be considering doing gifting and taking money out of your estate and succession planning and business, 2020 is the time to do it i would not call it a plan, i would say is maybe a plan a, you have to be prepared for higher taxes going forward. neil: i'm doing no gifting for the kids, my wife and i said were gonna spend every last penny, this way there out of the

shock, but i am curious, were so convinced the senate will stay republican and i know this is less likely but what if democrats do both and all of a sudden it is a democratic, they appear now but with the polls in atlanta have it pretty close and i just wonder how the markets will react to that. >> probably not well, i think there would be shocked because i believe it is big, if not words we can say on cable tv but the reality is this, the market will get over that and i think joe biden so far, the reason the market has done favorably performance wise is joe biden is turning out to be the moderate easy-going implementer of some of the cabinet picks, we seen some of the treasury happened

already where joe has taken the middle-of-the-road path so far with respect to what he's doing, the markets will probably be okay overall if for some reason the senate does flip because of the fact it looks like biden is not going to take the hard line with the far left democratic policies. so the market can be confident in that but we want to see the senate state divided or congress divided so we can get the bipartisan moving in d.c. to help the economy move along the best it can. neil: if they do when the two races in the moderate, the senator former vice president would be compelled to be a little less moderate, what do you think. >> i think he would be up against a lot of pressure to do some things more along the progressive path, if he gets the

corporate tax increase past and you go from 21% to 28%, the impact that's going to have on bottom line earnings is about a 10% reduction. that is significant to the market and i think the market is going to react, it is awkward to be favorable and not to mention all the other tax increases across the board like capital gains and a plethora of other areas, i agree joe biden ultimately gets the senate as well, it's not going to be looked at favorably with investors or the market and were going to feel that at least initially. neil: the market doesn't like surprises, you reminded me over the years, i hope you both had a great thanksgiving, have fun and thank you for your help this past year, i appreciate it and certainly our viewers appreciate it. in the meantime redone 166

points in getting more news about the significance of the janet yellen coming in as treasury secretary. what if i tell you maybe not just for treasury secretary. i will explain it.

is. neil: the hearing goes on to look at the possible voter fraud in the keystone state, pennsylvania state senate is holding in testimony on rudy giuliani, a lot of action in gettysburg, i know rudy giuliani in gettysburg and the whole 9 yards is interesting, anyway alex the hills reporter with us now, alex is this going to lead to the sweeping actions the trump campaign wants to take, it looks like it's an uphill battle, but what is the latest? >> thank you for having me, it is an uphill battle, i think the

trump campaign will continue on with these efforts but of course as we've seen this week the general service administration formally recognized former vice president joe biden as the president-elect, that creates further challenges for the trump campaign as they continue to pursue this but something we are looking forward could be part of their long game and if the president wants to run again in 2024 they're continuing to energize their base keeping the mobilized and ready for the next election come the next cycle. neil: i see for the next election cycle 2024 but what about the runoff election in georgia, the more people hear about that it could galvanize the base and help support the two republican candidates but given all the inciting, were talking about pennsylvania but in georgia whether it can boomerang, what do you hear? >> georgia will be very interesting to watch, democrats

are really motivated after biden's when, but so are republicans as much as the trump campaign continues to pursue these voting claims and things like that in pennsylvania and michigan, that continues to make the base energized in places like georgia so they're more likely to come out and vote in the runoff and be supportive of senator perdue and loeffler but i think democrats are equally energized as well, it'll be interesting to see who has the most momentum going into those. neil: i'm just curious if i could pick your brain, you're very tight with a lot of these folks and what they think and happen on both sides, i know there's no right or wrong answer but for the life of me i cannot see president trump even appearing at the inauguration of joe biden, i could be wrong,

maybe it'll be very gracious, i know herbert hoover and fdr did not talk on the way to the white house to the capitol and they were very bitter with each other but i have a hard time seeing that happen, what do you think? >> that's a great question and i think it's on a lot of people's minds already especially as we look forward to the transition, biden is expected to receive his full briefing from the government on monday and it's unclear whether biden troubled me during that process which is typical during a presidential transition process, if they don't meet then, that's an early indicator that perhaps they won't converse in the inauguration or like you mentioned, maybe trump wouldn't even go so many photos with former president and it would be a big loss of president trump didn't make the trip to the

inauguration, this transition process and how president trump handles it and works with the biden team or embraces biden and some extent, i think we'll be able to tell how he will come across in january. neil: there is no doubt, not going to the inauguration would be extreme, would be totally unusual and given the heat between the two men but i am curious if the president gives up this fight but reminds the nation i think i was robbed, i think there was a lot of fraud and i think it was rigged and goes on to say are clear the desk joe biden on generate 20th, among his dates, insubstantial, your more votes than any other candidate than the guy who beat him in american history but i'm wondering how that translates for him and for his future. >> that's a good question, how

his base would proceed him embracing or accepting the biden when in moving forward with that and more of a typical transition process way, i think the base will continue to be energized, we will continue to see president trump coming out and especially campaigning for other people and things like that to keep the base engaged and i think whatever he does during the transition process if he allows and wants to meet with joe biden or whatnot, i think the base will be accepting of that and they will continue to rally around him and i think a lot of that they are hopeful he will run again in 2024 or help decide who will run again in 2024 and it'll be someone that they want because the president wants them, i think they will go along with what the president says and wants to do and i think

what we've seen from gsa on monday starting the transition process is an indicator that trump might take that approach and accept the loss and move forward and keep his supporters active. neil: that is interesting, it does appear that that wouldn't happen to make it happen, we will see, alex, the hills reporter, have a great thanksgiving. thank you again. >> thank you, happy thanksgiving. i want to go to charlie gasparino, i know were gonna talk about johnny, but charlie i cannot get out of my mind the notion of how the president moves toward conceding, what do you think. >> say that again. neil: how the president concedes, will he concede. >> sorry, my volume wasn't high enough on my skype.

my guess, i've been speaking with some people close to trump who no trump, if he will do a halfway concession, part of this is the trump brand and donald trump is not going to be president after generate 20th or whenever joe biden is inaugurated, he will have a business career, he is now planting his seeds for the business career, that business career has to be built on the notion in the image that he is not a loser, it's just the way it is, he will do everything in his power essentially to assert that he did not lose this election, for him to concede would go against that brand, that is part of the trump brand, never loses, always comes back, always wins in the end, he knows

he has to make money in the future, the trump business empire has some issues and a lot of debt, he can cash out in the way but the only way he can really cash out is to prove to enough people that he did not lose in the way you do that, you don't really concede, you figure out some and thread the needle or maybe just not concede, i wouldn't be surprised if he never concedes or doesn't show up to the inaugural, i would not be surprised if he sits everything out, that is all very possible because he has to protect and build his brand for the next innervation of the trump business deal which is essentially showing the world he is not a loser and cashing in on that, that is clearly what a lot of this is about. neil: one of the world know that he's not a loser but that he lost or will they be so loyal to

him and questioning everything that was told about the accounts, suspect the worst, was fraud that that will carry the day when in fact most looking at the stepping back say you put up impressive numbers, more than any losing candidate in american history the second highest vote total for presidential candidate the guy who beat him this go around but it would really strain to say that didn't happ happen. >> i think it'll strain for juuling among 60 - 70% of the population, but we are in the business of mixed audience, cable is a mixed audience, you can get a small amount of people make a lot of money on it. this is kind of where he is going on this, this is a business decision, i do not believe this is a decision based on what he really thinks. he has to keep his mission in

tack so he can capitalize in cash and, that's whether he's creating his own network, book deals, that's what he has to do and i really believe that's what this is about and i think because of that you may not see them at the inaugural, he may just say screw it, i'm not goi going. neil: i don't see it, i could be wrong, they have some president were the two candidates don't talk to each other or like each other. truman and dwight eisenhower, he did run against him but you got my point, herbert hoover with fdr the man who beat them in a landslide, i know there is that but i don't see it here, all switch gears, i apologize for taking so much time on this issue, what is the latest on janet yellen and what we can expect in the rumors and what she might be doing, what is the latest. >> it has not been officially

announced, every single off the record they're all confirming it and i'm just wondering why they're not doing this yet, in any event, it's not a done deal until it's a done deal, for all purposes she's probably going to be there. here is a couple of things and picking up for people at the fed and people close to the biden administration and people that have watched this stuff. her appointment is definitely seen as indication that the biden people believe the senate will stay republican. lyle brainard, roger ferguson the two front runners before the last week or so don't seem to have the stroke with republicans that janet yellen does have to negotiate fiscal policy stuff that biden will have to get through she is someone that can

cough up a gop senator and change the vote and remember if the republicans keep the senate a lot of what biden will do from a fiscal policy standpoint, massive tax increase in spending what happened unless you get gop defection, she is someone who is seen that can do that. the other thing that i here which is fascinating is that janet yellen is seen as a fed chair again, she was obama's fed chair and vice chair and she is in the seat to do that in a couple of years if jerome powe powell, if and when he steps down. the third thing i hear, people really believe that biden, if gop keeps the senate and the chances are, it'll be one of the two georgia seats, the fiscal policies will be constrained, therefore how do you boost the economy if that's the case,

republicans will not agree to anything, one thing is through goosing fed monetary policy, half of me says what else could be done that jerome powell isn't doing already, there is more things you can do, you can bring back q. week or something like this and because it was a fed chair she will be putting the hammer down on powell because they need a more expansive monetary policy to make up for the fact that the gop senate is not going to agree to agree new deal, massive spending, bailing out cities like new york, it will not happen. she's going to have to put the pedal to the metal to powell. it will be interesting to see because she's not an aggressive person like president trump we did the same but through tweets, she is a persuasive person, she's been in politics for a long time and she knows how to call people up. that is what i hear, no press release on this yet i wonder what is taking them so long.

neil: i wonder why she was not part of the announcement yesterday. but until we hear from the president-elect themselves is not a done deal yet. have a great thanksgiving, be safe, be well, charlie gasparino in the middle of the latest developments political withstanding, the dow jones industrial down 165 points, you're planning to do for thanksgiving but if you're really big into outdoor dining in the greater los angeles area, good luck finding it because there be any net. after this. ♪ eway moments. here's to one more, the lexus december to remember sales event. get 0% financing on all new 2020 and 2021 lexus models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

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but the latest and on outdoor dining, for a lot of californians that are not in that particular business, rick with the los angeles shopping center owner and the ceo with us right now, very good to have you, how will this work and how long is the ban in effect. >> hi, thank you for having me on, the ban is in effect for three weeks, let me tell you how little work. in my opinion, there's over 300,000 restaurant workers in l.a. county alone and i'm sure the majority of those workers have now been told are unemployed at least for the next three weeks. it's going to be devastating, the hard-working men and women who have been struggling to pay rent, food on the table and especially on the eve of the holidays to be told are out of work and heading to the unappointed line is really wro wrong, is really not going to work well in the more maddening thing about this, there is no

science, no data that has a nexus between outdoor dining in the surge of the virus in los angeles and beyond that what is ludicrous, you can leave l.a. county and go to orange county, santa barbara county, ventura county within a few minutes and you can have outdoor dining. it is not going to accomplish anything then put a lot of hardship on a lot of good people that need to make a living. neil: i see the limitations on the effect of indoor dining outdoor dining never appeared to be a culprit in any event. by the way the same with indoor dining in my digress, three weeks is a very long time, three weeks to do a lot of damage. for businesses that are on the brink now. >> no doubt, you've already had 20000 businesses permanently closed in l.a., 20000 and think of the ripple effect that has on other businesses.

but also all the elected officials and appointed officials that make these decisions, for the last eight months they have been getting their check regularly every two weeks. they really need to be more concerned and think about not only protecting lives but protecting livelihoods, they go hand-in-hand. i am all for protecting lies in doing what we need to do but you've gotta prove it out, you cannot make the disconnected decisions that have devastating impacts and three weeks into the holidays, i don't know how any of these places are going to reopen and try to get ready for christmas and into the new year. it's good to be very tough. neil: you do hope they stick to the three weeks, so is the awful thought, no were going to carry this to the end of the year, that is happening in a few states as we speak, hang in there, los angeles shopping center owner, founder and ceo, much, much more, this is the stuff they have to deal with all the time in the political views,

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>> that is a good solution to noncredit and the pent-up dema demand, approval 15 feels like years i've been talking about frugal fatigue how it comes around every single holiday season but this one in particular, you know i'm a mom of twin toddlers and i gotta tell you parents guilt, the pandemic guilt is setting in and i think parents and grandparents and people alike are going to go out there and want to spend on their loved ones. neil: the numbers are bearing you out when a consumer survey what they plan to do, i know we don't have traditional black friday events, the rolling events but the response has been strong even if only online at the beginning, what you make of all of this? >> shockingly i worked on a report with oracle and we came to the conclusion that about 50% of people are spending online,

people are still going into the stores and part of the reason why is exactly what you said, the christmas creep that we talk about, the guess that won't leave your home that you've had for weeks, this is a phenomenon that has been happening since september, people getting ready to shop for the holiday, we also have the layer of the fact that so many people are going online, shipping is going to become a really big issue, those traditional last-minute deadlines are not going to happen this year, i'm telling everyone and i think the vibe, people want to get their shopping done way earlier for fear that there will be a crush that no gifts are going to be delivered on time. neil: is there going to be a crush of people, the malls limit the traffic, i don't even know i guess it depends on the state. >> you're probably not going to see that crush of people that we used to see, we would we see

people rushing into the stores, that won't happen but the people i'm talking about our online, as you know amazon has it locked and loaded in terms of how logistically how people can shop online and we saw that during the pandemic, people were hunkering down and purchasing more and not just gifts, really basic items and with the recent shutdowns in rolling the shelter home mandate or the states are issuing in certain lockdowns are happening in states are doing it, with that said people are wanting to start shopping for their basics in addition to the gifts, that is what is going to call the bidding against delivered under the tree or for hanukkah on time. neil: we will see what happens, great catching up with you, great thanksgiving. taking a quick break that out on 141 points, retail issues have been holding up pretty well through all of this.

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neil: all right. take a look at the market cap of tesla right now, half trillion dollar concern right now because yesterday, elon musk had crossed the level of being the second richest man on earth, worth more than $100 million, eclipsing bill gates in that position, buoyed by his stock right now. tesla, over $570 a share, up an additional $15 or so today.

he has defied conventional wisdom and even some, you know, quality reports on some of the vehicles that might not be up to snuff, weathered all of that, entrance to the s&p 500 and he's been nothing but going up, up, up and away. kind of charles payne money there. hey, charles. charles: hey, neil. beautiful thing as we were all invited along for the ride. thank you so much. good afternoon, everyone. i'm charles payne. breaking right now, although stocks are taking a pause at the moment, we have seen a string of new highs as more companies are on the move. money pouring in as this rally continues to broaden out. do you have on your dance shoes? plus how to handle the drama of owning the big winners. plus president trump's legal team taking the leelection figh to gettysburg, pennsylvania. what does this mean for the president's prospects and are they putting georgia at risk?