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57 days have passed since judge sullivan's last hearing to block general flynn's exoneration. we'll have much more on this development later in the broadcast. the good news again, general flynn has been pardoned by president trump. and more good news for the president in pennsylvania where a major victory for a free and fair election has been won. today pennsylvania judge patricia mccullough ordered that the state certification of the vote be halted temporarily are. she scheduled a hearing for friday morning in the case brought by congressman mike kelly and congressional candidate sean parnell. they allege in that suit the state's mail-in ballot law is unconstitutional. the trump campaign not directly involved in the litigation but would stand to benefit, of course, if, in fact, that law is held to be unconstitutional.

pennsylvania's radical dem, radical dem attorney general josh shapiro said he is appealing to the astronaut supreme court. -- state supreme court. shapiro is a radical by any definition, and he is the same official who claimed before the election that president trump would lose if all the votes, as he he put it, were added up. our first guest tonight is the9 attorney leading the charge to throw out pennsylvania's mail-in ballots representing congressman mike kelly and congressional candidate e sean parnell. he joins us from pittsburgh. gregory, good to have you with us and congratulations on this win, hearing scheduled for friday. what is your expectation now that the case will be considered? >> well, thanks for having me on, lou are, good to be here. our expectation is that the hearing will proceed, but the

other side has filed an appeal to the pa supreme court begging them to take over the case, so we'll have to see. developments keep coming. lou: what does that mean in. >> well, the supreme court may step in and take over the case. we'll have to wait and see whether that'll happen -- lou: is that a good -- >> that could, it's neither good nor bad. the supreme court could grant the same relief that we're seeking from the commonwealth court and should, because the law at issue clearly is unconstitutional. lou: but the supreme court hasn't been ruling in the favor of the president in this, and it's, as i understand it, it's a heavily democrat, what, a 5-2 democrat judges on that supreme court? >> right. one would hope they don't simply vote based on their party's interest, but rather on what the law and the constitution says. and in line -- there's two supreme court precedents going back 150 years holding9 that the pennsylvania constitution allows two ways to vote. one is in person, the other is

absentee ballots that meet the criteria for voting, and there's four different criteria, if you're in the military, if you have a disability or an illness that prevents you from voting, etc. and in order to expand those to no excuse mail-in balloting, which is what act 77 did here in pa, you have to do a constitutional amendment. you have to give the pa voters a chance to vote on a constitutional amendment before you can implement widespread mail-in voting, and that's what's at issue in this case. lou: this case is also not unlike the case, the case that has a arisen in a number of other states, battleground states specifically but others as well, in which mail-in ballots were obviously the prize adjustment in this election year by the radical dems. they pulled it off in a number of states, and it looks to be a coordinated conspiracy to foul the vote.

and they did it to a fare-thee-well, don't you think? >> well, there's no question that mail-in ballots are far more susceptible of fraud, and there's a lot of irregularities and problems that we've seen in the implementation of mail-in balloting in pennsylvania that calls into question the integrity of the election. and it's one of the reasons why the voters, if given a chance to vote on where to allow -- whether to allow mail-in voting, should vote it down. lou: is so what is the remedy then? if, indeed, it proceeds through, what are we talking about as a consequence? mail-in ballots that went beyond the three days initially established, went beyond election day as originally are established would be thrown out? what would be the consequence you seek as a remedy in law? >> so we're not addressing our case to mail-in ballots received as of a certain date, whenever they were cast. the mail-in ballots without

proper excuse as an absentee ballot are not lawful under the pa constitution, and none of those ballots should be included in the count9 for pa's vote totals, for new e of the races, president or on down ballot. and the remedy would be to block sort my caution of i any result that includes those votes. they would have to exclude those votes from any count for this election as well as the law would be declared unconstitutional and voided for any future elections. lou: yeah, it's -- at one level it is so simple, the constitution says election day, and it has turned into with election month. that hardly seems to be within -- [laughter] the meaning of the word, does it? gregory, thanks for being with us, we appreciate your insight and wish you well. thank you. the win in pennsylvania comes as members of the trump legal team today met with republicans from the pennsylvania state senate in gettysburg. there they laid out the examples

of fraud and corruption in the pennsylvania election. in that meeting several witnesses said they saw fraud in the election. one witness addressed issues with the voting machines used by pennsylvania declaring those machines were designed to be manipulated. listen to retired colonel phil walter who spent half of his 30-year career on information warfare and election manipulation around the world. >> these systems are not what you've been told. they are connected to the internet. and sivers outside of the -- servers outside of the u.s. there is no transparency, as our previous witnesses mentioned as to how the voter information is processed, how and where it's stored. the voting record is able to be modified and/or deleted by operate ors, administrators and outside threats. operators can assign votes for write-in ballots, blank ballots

or error ballots in large numbers so they can be directed toward one candidate or another at the operator's or supervisor's discretion. and many experts have published how easily these machines can be hacked to manipulate votes. as a matter of fact, one of our white hat hackers previously discovered a malware that's present on the servers that captures every login and every password of every operator down to the precinct level that logged into one of these systems. that's just like giving the password of your bank account out, putting it on the dark web. it's not going to be there very long. lou: and the evidence today piling up in that hearing room against the propry few of the election in pennsylvania. president trump was watching those proceedings. he called in to thank everyone involved, leaving no doubt to just how important today's meeting in the battle for the white house. >> and nobody would have said we

even had a chance of losing. and all you had to do was take a look at the numbers at 10:00 in the evening when everybody thought the election was virtually over. then a very weird thing happened. but they're not weird to professionals, or and they're not weird to dominion and other people that operate machines, and they're not weird to the people that handled the ballots where they were flooding the market. people were getting two and three and four ballots in their home. people that were dead were signing up for ballots. not only were they coming in and putting in a ballot, but dead people -- lou: and for more on today's meeting in gettysburg, correspondent david spunt is on location and has the very latest for us. david. >> reporter: hey, lou, good evening. president trump was supposed to be here in gettysburg in person today. plans changed, he ended up calling in on the phone, but a lot of supporters here as well today. president trump did make that

phone call inside. lou, it's not clear if today's meeting was just to shine some light on some potential irregularities and problems or actually change some of the results in pennsylvania. even though the president was not here today, his two attorneys were, his lead attorneys rudy giuliani and jenna ellis both were here. before republican senators and house members from pennsylvania, giuliani introduced several witnesses from pennsylvania who worked as poll workers and canvassers as he continues to allege fraud in pennsylvania. despite the legal setback, the president praised giuliani the phone. listen to this, lou. >> and i want to thank rudy giuliani for having the courage -- [cheers and applause] a lot of lawyers that backed down because they were being screamed at. rudy is the greatest mayor in the history of new york, and there's a reason. he's got great courage, and he doesn't care. he wants to do what's right. >> reporter: outside the hoe e until at least a hundred supporters of the president

chanted four more years, others screamed 2024 hoping he'll run again. interesting to note though that there were witnesses here, but this was not a court hearing or a legal proceeding. there was no judge, the claims today stood a different standard than those made in court under oath, and you know julian and his team have taken this case to several courts. they continue to fight in pennsylvania despite votes being certified in favor of president-elect biden. the pennsylvania governor made that announcement yesterday saying and certifying those results for president-elect joe biden. also to point out today the, lou, that the witnesses here today were not under oath, this were not sworn in, but the trump legal team did point out that many of them had submitted affidavits under the penalty of perjury. lou? lou: you sound rather dismissive of the expert witnesses including cy-ops computer forensic experts that were thing

as to the irregularities and anomalies of the election. in point of fact, it was an informational hearing, and you do -- you are, i'm sure, aware that a federal, a state judge has intervened to temporarily stop the certification of the vote in pennsylvania as a result of claims by, amongst others, congressmen mike kelley and sean parnell, both republicans declaring in their lawsuit that the entire proceeding was unconstitutional. david spunt, thanks for being with us, we appreciate it. we'll be joined this hour by the president's attorney, rudy giuliani. also joining us will be behavioral sue colings dr. robert epstein who warned america about what big tech would do to afact this year's outcome -- affect this year's outcome in this election. a detroit poll watcher and he can tomorrow fraud witness, patrick colbeck joins us as well. and fox news host pete hegseth

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lou: there's another lousy election r pollsters who were, well, it hooked like trieding to suppress the republican vote. i'm sure that's not the case. at the onset of the campaign, many on the left were predicting a blue wave, predicting outrageous margins of victory for biden. the opposite, of course, is exactly what occurred. in the house of representatives, republicans now have a net gain of 7 seats. and in the senate, republicans holding 50 seats while we await the outcome of 2 runoff races in georgia. in governors' races this year, 11 seats up for elections, and republicans won 8 of them including montana, a net gain for the party. there is also one state in which the state legislature changed party control, that one was in new hampshire, and, yes, the republicans won that one as well, winning both the statehouse and the senate. so what happened to the blue wave?

well, sounds like, again, the pollsters were trying to suppress the vote or they simply forgot their craft. the republicans also expanding their majority of state legislators from 52% to 54%. that's why a lot of people doubt the outcome of the presidential vote, because it makes no sense with the down-ballot victories for republican across the country. joining us tonight is rudy giuliani, president trump's personal attorney, renouned federal prosecutor -- renowned federal prosecutor, former mayor of new york city, in fact, america's mayor, and now leading the fight in court for a free and fair election and this president. rudy, good to have you with us. the -- i want to start with the hearing, if i may, because -- >> sure. lou: -- there was a fascinating amount of information, forensic experts, computer forensic

experts, cy-ops and cyber warfare experts. and to a person, they were line ared up with the concerns -- lined up with the concerns of, well, we know of 74 million americans who believe this race was absolutely rigged at the presidential level. your thoughts about how it went. >> well, i thought it went very well because it was the first time that we had the opportunity to put our evidence out. i mean, they've been suppressing it, including judges suppressing it. they don't want the american people to hear the evidence of fraud. they just keep repeating, oh, they don't have any evidence, they don't have any evidence. we have a mountain of evidence. we only put on a maul amount of it -- small amount of it as representative of what we have. but you can see, i mean, we're talking about ordinary people who were threatened, who were prevented from voting for president trump, ballots that were counted in secret in a back room, hundreds of thousands of

them not just a few, mail, mail-in ballots that just don't make sense. they sent out, the state of pennsylvania sent out 1.8 million mail-in ballots but got back 2.5 million? somebody had to be making a lot of phony mail-in ballots for that to happen. i mean, that really, that really proves without even a witness that they were stuffing the ballot box. and then you had witnesses including a democrat who was shocked at how far they went in philadelphia to steal the election are. this is not -- the election. this is not a situation of a few mistakes. there's a massive fraud in the city of philadelphia and pittsburgh involving now about 7-800,000 votes that wering stolenful -- that were stolen. and the legislature is in charge. the constitution, under article ii, section one, clause 2 gulfs

the authority -- gives the authority to the legislature to determine how to select electors. and given the fact that this vote count in pennsylvania is false, they can't possibly certify. they'd be commuting perjury if they certified. they now know that. i think we convinced them that the vote count's off by about 6 or 700,000 votes in just pennsylvania alone. lou: well, let's turn to pittsburgh and the case there in which sean parnell, republican candidate for congress, and congressman mike kelly pursuing their lawsuit. they won a temporary injunction against the certification of the state of pennsylvania's vote.

and their claim is that the mail-in ballot that was, that has fouled up elections not only in pennsylvania, but across the country as you know better than anyone is outright unconstitutional. your thoughts about the importance of that case, because that goes to the entire country. >> it was unconstitutional in the way in which it was passed, but it was also unconstitutional in the way it was carried out. basically, the state legislature -- the rules for an election. and the secretary of state and the direct or or of elections -- director of elections in pennsylvania decided to run a different election than the law provided. they allowed people, for example, in democratic parts of the state to change their ball but not in republican -- ballot but not in republican parts of the state. they actually looked at the mail-in ballots, and if they

were in democratic parts of the state, they'd call you up and allow you to fix it. in republican parts of the state, they wouldn't do that. i mean, that is completely crazy. totally illegal. then -- lou rudy, what is the -- i'm sorry, go ahead. >> well, the step in pennsylvania is pretty simple, they can decertify the result, and they can certify that trump was the winner. the state legislature has that power. in fact, it belongs only to them. the governor of the state has absolutely are no power over presidential election. the election commissioners, the constitution of the united states says the state legislature will decide on the electors. lou: and your expectation is what and by what time? >> we are hoping that -- they

seemed to be very impressed with the evidence. i mean, one of the good things when the press i lies like this and says there's no evidence, when they see evidence, they're shocked. they're shocked to see that we have 50 witnesses that can prove that they were secretly counting ballots and holding them, deliberately holding them away from republicans. they seemed shocked when we had an expert witness show that at the very beginning of the count they infused 332,000 votes for biden into the crafty dominion machines which, you know, are worthless. they were shocked that their votes were sent overseas to be tabulated in germany by a company that has connections to lens wail la. that was done by their brilliant governor, the governor who doesn't want to celebrate thanksgiving, right? governor anti-thanksgiving. [laughter]

lou: well, rudy, we appreciate watching this unfold because of your efforts and that of the state legislature of pennsylvania to learn that those dominion -- [inaudible conversations] lou: -- the internet throughout is what the expert witness if from beginning, middle and end. i'm sorry, rudy, you get the last quick word. >> one way or another, we're going to get to the truth here. and the truth is that donald trump won this election and they robbed him. and we're going to prove it. lou: rudy giuliani, you heard it here. thanks so much, rudy, appreciate it. rudy giuliani, a great american. we'd like to hear your thoughts on all of this. share your comments. follow me on twitter @loudobbs like me on facebook, follow me on instagram and parler @loudobbs tonight. and coming right up, our next guest who saws millions of votes -- says millions of votes

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♪ lou: well, mark zuckerberg has spent some $400 million on the ground to influence the outcome of the 2020 election. facebook has also changed its news feed to suppress the, well, the right-wing media and favor the national left-wing media. lauren simonetti has the story. >> the new york times reporting that facebook changed its algorithm right after the election to highlight author tate thive news -- authoritative news, but who determines that? senator march -- marsha

blackburn racketed. >> the american people do not want big tech to filter what they're going to be able to see or hear or read and then have big tech's pressure on what they think and how they vote. >> reporter: and senator josh hawley, a bug create you can of silicon valley, tweets: facebook throttling conservative outlets to decrease their readership. big tech wants to control all news in america and soon will if we don't stop them. we reached out to facebook. here was their response to "the new york times." the assertions in this report are basedded on sources who have no product decision making authority and are advancing their own flower row impressions of how our process works. the paper says facebook came up with a news ecosystem quality score to judge the quality of journalism. and it demoted, temporarily, pages like breitbart and occupy democrats and advanced pages like cnn and the new times. problem was, that tweet resulted

in people spending less time on the site, reflecting the ongoing battle between ideological and profitable. lou? lou: lauren, thanks so much. lauren simonetti reporting. well, joining us tonight dr. robert epstein, prominent psychologist and professor who predicted that big tech would manipulate millions of voters this year. and su saying now outright democrats were favored by bug tech. professor -- big tech. professor, good to have you with us. how is it that we could, despite your with warnings to congress very clearly, very cogently, that big tech has manipulated the vote before in 2016, you expressed your belief that they would do so again. how is it that we can be warned by authorities like you and simply you are ignored?

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occur. you say that google swayed at least 6 million voters by doing what? >> well, first of all, i've been studying the ability of google and other companies to shift votes and opinions since 2013 in very rigorous, randomized, controlled experiments, so i know they have the power. and then beginning in 2016 i began to develop monitoring systems that allow us to look over the shoulders of real use ors, real registered voters to see what these companies are actually showing them in the days leading up to an election. in 2016 we were able to preserve 13,000 election-related searches on google, bing and yahoo!. this year we went all out. we actually had 733 field agents in three key swing states, arizona, florida and north carolina, and we preserved more than 500,000 i femoral experiences -- ephemeral

experiences like search results and have now begun the task of analyzing what these companies were showing people. unfortunately, we're finding out that what i predicted was correct, that, in fact, there was a great deal of die bass and some -- bias and some outright manipulation occurring shifting at least 6 million votes toward democrats. we haven't looked at enough data to know what the maximum is, but the minimum absolutely is 6 million. lou: and that doesn't include all the other big tech companies, the social media companies which played an extraordinary -- and this, i believe, an unpress end debitedded role this time because the results are just too irregular, the positive, has just far too many anomalies for it not to have been significantly manipulated, rigged or, if you prefer, just outright fraud on the part of some companies and some political parties and voting

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again, warning against making claims of voter fraud. nessel is trying to intimidate witnesses, tweeting in response to poll watcher patrick colbeck's claims of voter irregularities saying, quote: colbeck's assertions aside, intentional hi making a false claim of criminal activity to law enforcement is itself a crime. it's been my exebb appearance that is often the reason certain reports are not made. necessaryel denied that prop orer claims were ever filed by colbeck. patrick colbeck, an election challenger or in wayne county, michigan, signed a sworn affidavit charging dominion machines were connected to the internet. he's also a former michigan state senator, and it's great to sea you again. patrick, the attorney general, it sounds to me, is straightforwardly trying to intimidate you. >> yeah. she's my old senate majority

leader. i don't intimidate very well. really, nobody's actually gone up and refuted the actual claims in few affidavit. they said it's not cred credible. they've already admitted to the fact that they're connected to the internet. a former state elections direct orer in michigan already admitted to the fact that these systems, some of the computers were connected to the internet. and i already documented the fact that all of these computers were connected to the internet. so i'd love for them to get under some cross-examination and explain themselves. lou: well, that hasn't happened, but what has happened today in pennsylvania, prominent expert on voting machines in cy-ops and cyber warfare himself, colonel phil waldren, informed the pennsylvania senate that there is no transparency as the previous witness in today's

hearing had noted. he said categorically these systems are not what you've been told, they are connected to the internet and servers outside the united states. they're connected from top to the bottom, in the middle. end of statement. he went on, but that is -- as they say, but that is the statement on connections and supporting your claims. >> yeah. that's exactly why it's so concerning that i observed these computers we can asked to the -- were connected to the internet. the keyword we're going to be hearing over the next few weeks is going to be the term chain of custody. and why the internet connection is so important because tabulators, the actual computers that are counting the votes, were connected to the internet. [laughter] and so anybody who has ever heard of a hackers' conference where they can break into a computer within seconds to go off and and manipulate the data on that computer, that's a concern.

you've broken the chain of custody, and you've broken the integrity of the entire election when you allow people into the same computers that are counting all the votes. lou: well, what has been the reaction in michigan? the republicans have seemed to me to be very quiet. what is going on with the republican party there? i mean, some of us watched the irregularities like in detroit putting up cardboard in front of windows so people, the poll watchers couldn't see. the public couldn't see what was going on. this is outrageous. >> it is. and i was there. so i saw that, i saw -- that's how i observed the e internet connections. we observed a lot of other infractions that were happening as well, and i look forward to -- i don't know about you, i was very encouraged by what i saw with the pennsylvania state legislators. that's what i'm hoping will happen all across the country. lou: yes.

>> i know in arizona there's going to be some hearings along those lines coming up soon, and also we're going to have hearings in michigan on tuesday, december 1st. so there is some sign of life there, frankliment but my biggest -- frankly, but my biggest concern is there's a lot of down-ballot issues that i'm concerned with as well. lou and and those are being revealed as well, and the challenge in pennsylvania which a judge is harding now that would -- hearing now that is blocking at least temporarily blocking the certification of the vote is very important because it goes to the constitutionality of mail-in voting it. patrick colbeck, we thank you for being with us, and we wish you lots of luck and look forward to talking to you again soon. well, joining us tonight by phone on the pardon of general michael flynn is his defense attorney, sidney powell. great american, she is, and this has got to be a special day for

you, sidney, and certainly for the general and husband family. and his family. >> it is, lou, thank you. it's really bittersweet because the justice system had worked properly, we would not have had to have gotten this pardon, but we certainly appreciate president trump giving it to general flynn because it has gone on far too long. we now know that judge sullivan was just a political ploy. he's made a political game out of all of this, and it's just one of the most egregious injustices i've witnessed in american history. lou: it's been a four-year persecution after a frame-up by the department of justice and the fbi against general michael flynn. the outrage -- can we put up these dates from the time that he withdrew his guilty plea to just show everyone what is going on here. we're talking about over four

years since the events that started this, the frame job against the general took place over four years. but it's been 316 days since general flynn withdrew his guilty plea, it's been 202 days since the department of justice filed to dismiss the charges against him. and it's been -- >> exactly. lou: -- 57 days since his last hearing. this is, when you were talking about the shame is the justice department, it was late, but at least it stepped up. i can't find many places where the justice department is stepping up for any american, sidney. i am just so delighted the president pardoned the general. i'm delighted for the general, for you, for husband family, but i'm delighted for america because at least somebody has stood up against this ignorant, politically corrupt federal judiciary and, in particular,

emmet sullivan. your thoughts. >> yes. yes, it was -- enough was enough. we had a passed the point of proving that general flynn was innocent. all of the evidence we've gotten since i came on the case shows that, and it was high time that he he be exonerated of all these challenges. it was truly a pardon of innocence. lou: well, i want to congratulate you and the general, his family. great work, sidney. that was a, you were fighting for the lord's work on that one with. sidney, i appreciate it. thanks for taking the time. and joining us here next, pete leg st.. stay with us, we'll be rig we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it

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♪ ♪ lou: the authoritarian radical left is, well, using the china virus for their own authoritarian purposes. starting tonight, outdoor dining shut down in los angeles. that for at least three weeks. in oregon governor kate brown wants residents to call the cops on their neighbors who they believe might have too many people over for thanksgiving. can you believe we're talking about america as i am telling you about this? and new york city has put up checkpoints at bridges and

crossingses this week. that's starting to sound like, well, it's not the bear runs wall with, it's the manhattan wall. and pennsylvania's ban on alcohol sales is in effect until tomorrow morning. joining us tonight is pete hegseth, cohost of "fox & friends" weekend. he has a new book, "modern warriors," available now at foxnews.com/books. that is right, fox news publishing. pete, great to have you with us. >> thank you, lou. lou: congratulations on your book. i want to get your reaction, first of all, before we turn to the book, to the left using this whether it's new york, california, new jersey, you name it, they're using it as a blunt instrument brent the constitution. against the constitution. >> it's just a tiger showing its stripes, that's what it is. this is what they want. constitution be damned, at any time as much control over the

lives of individual free citizens. it's why they use these -- i mean, phil murphy, i live in the people's republic of new jersey. and at the beginning of this, he revealed how they really feel when he said the bill of rights was above husband pay grade -- above his pay grade. the constitution a mere um pediment to their desire to control the way we live, and the china virus is a perfect example of something they will use to do just that. and they start with first freedoms, lou. they start with church, they start with all the places we seek to gather peaceably, but they ignore, of course, when riots go up, that's fine, we can make an exception for that. i don't think people are going to take it anymore, lou, i really don't. they're going to start resisting even more than the first go around as well they should. lou: i agree with you. we're starting to see a lot of steins of it, and -- signs of it, and i'll be honest, i'm cheering in every instance. let's turn to your book, "modern

warriors." first of all, how could you beat that title? these are the people we should with hearing about, reading about and watching on television. tell us about the book, and it's already number two on amazon. i've got to mention it, bank -- barack obama's memoir, we're going to try to get everyone to make sure that's taken care of tonight. we recommend "modern warriors," pete's new book, to you highly. your thoughts on what drove the book. >> yeah. you got to the point, you know? society's so -- what we value, what we honor is a reflection of what we celebrate, it's a reflection of what we value as a society. we value so much nonsense. we hold up celeb ities and actors as this we should model our lives around them. this book is a rejection of that. it says if you want to understand how people live free, what really matters, what really happens on the battlefield, then "modern warriors" is the book for you. there's 15 stories of soldiers

who deployed time and time again. we take you behind the scenes, what are their emotions, how are they feeling, it's politically inerect, raw, real -- incorrect, and they opened up to me in a way i very much appreciate. and the hope is that we inspire people to remember that america has been fought for. draw some inspiration from these very stories. these men are amazing, they're the real 1%. forget the elites, these are the real 1%-ers, and their stories will knock your socks off. anyone who's a patriot is going to love this book, "modern warriors." lou: and we urge everyone to buy it. pete hegseth, thanks for being with us. pete himself, three deployments, he's one of those heroes, picked up two bronc -- bronze stars. "modern warriors: real stories from real heroes," available now at foxnews.com/boo

that's it for us tonight. rudy giuliani, sean cornell, among our guests this coming monday. follow me on twitter at lou dobbs, like me on facebook, follow me and instagram. by the national best-selling book, how our president changed the course of history forever. lou dobbs shop.com.

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