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♪. lou: can you believe the mess this country is in? neither can i. we'll be talking with rudy giuliani and sidney powell here tomorrow. please join us for that and much more. good night from sussex. ♪. >> stock prices fell only after capping off a month for the history books t was the best month for the dow jones since 1987. it was the best record for the s&p 500. it was driven by positive news for the hunt of covid-19. moderna announced emergency authorization for its candidate. joining us tonight, peter navarro, jason furman, joe concha, jim trusty and tom homan. including growing pushback on covid-19 restrictions and
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lockdowns. new york governor andrew cuomo is dismissing the supreme court ruling giving okay for large religious gatherings. this escalating debate, is the media too soft on team biden. i break it down in my latest "wall street journal" column, notice how the fawning media behave like lapdogs when it comes to looking at the biden camp. the vast and rising power of big tech. facing backlash from the united states to the united kingdom, from claims to anti-conservative bias to anti-competitive business models. to the border and the trump administration making a big last push to crack down on immigration as the incoming biden administration prepares to roll back many of the trump team's most high-profile policies. i'm gerry baker. in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now ♪.
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gerry: the biden administration announcing key administrated tiff team and janet yellen as treasury secretary, and neera tanden, from a controversial think tank, he wants her to be head of office of management and budget. she comes with many challenges. the trump administration has seven weeks to go. what does it hope to get done to aid the american economy? joining me to discuss all this, white house trade advisor peter navarro. >> hi, gerri. gerry: president hopes he has longer. seven weeks to go until the biden administration is due to take office. the economy is facing challenges. covid spreading. more lockdowns, signs the economy is weakening. what can you get done, peter,
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remaining whatever it is, 50 days or so that can help the economy and perhaps help cement president trump's legacy? >> just for the record, speaking personally, having looked at hundreds and hundreds of affidavits, gerri, the election outcome is still very much in doubt. we owe it to the american people to let the process go forward. there is really a lot of things going on. there is allegations about ripe fraud. there is ballots without providence, they have not correctly checked voter i.d. you have process fouls not letting observers in. you have equal protection issues. you got questions arising over these vote machines, dominion, smartmatic software that goes with it and i think that you know, if you look at, for example, what is going on in wisconsin and pennsylvania there is a very good chance you could see tens of thousands of ballots thrown out there for some of
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these reasons. gerry: i should say the president hasn't had much luck so far has we the court? getting pretty late. >> he hasn't had much luck and it is getting late. this will be an interesting week for that. i think you know over the weekend, gerri, a pennsylvania judge basically issued an order and said in the order there was a likelihood that the trump team would prevail and if that one were upheld that would basically swing the election to trump in that state. gerry: i realize this will play out but let's see how it plays out obviously but whether or not the president is successful in his challenges the economy is facing some challenges. what do you think in the next two months can be done and should be done to help the economy? >> well, gerry, i'm very concerned here because for
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political reasons on capitol hill they have effectively allowed a bridge to collapse and i'm talking about the transition from the first three phases of the stimulus and relief package to what should have been a fourth phase and what we have now, i'm not sure these folks understand the pain and suffering of the american people that the president really cares about which is a small business people, the blue-collar americans. you have got a lot of small businesses with the ppp program gone, going over a cliff possibly, out of business. you've got people, tens of millions of americans still outt of work and you've got an economy -- we've got what i call a second derivative problem. it is like we still have things moving in the right direction but that's the first derivative but the second derivative is
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they're slowing down which means at some point that is going to flip. gerry: basically can you get another package through, another cares package through, something like that, is that what you would like to get in the next month or so? >> i think that has to be at the very top of everybody's list here in the swamp, gerry. it is puzzling to me. i watch your show every friday, you do such a good job assessing the overall economy and we have this disconnect between a soaring stock market and kind of an underlying structural problem. one of the things i've been worried about for a very long time is this structural change in the economy where the china virus is basically taken our major metropolitan areas and hit kind of pillars of them where there is mass transit or big office buildings or kind of the entertainment, restaurant centers of those cities. what we're seeing is a lot of service sector refugees on the unemployment lines. what we've, what we love to do
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here at the trump white house is to create manufacturing jobs, bring our jobs back onshore and i really think that is going to be the key moving forward into 2021 and by the way, these vaccines that are coming i just remember right across the way where my office is, it is about 75 yards across west exec there, february 9th writing a memo, gerry to the task force, basically said if we get cracking on president trump's vision for this vaccine, the memo said we could have a vaccine by the end of november or early december and that is exactly where we're at but that is not, that is not a panacea. i think, gerry, that the people of america have fundamentally changed their behavior a lot of ways which will make the structural problems difficult to cope with in 2021. gerry: quickly if i may, joe biden was announcing his
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economic team today. >> sure. gerry: when you came in and the trump team came in, you particular took a very different approach from what previous administrations taken, just briefly, assuming they do take office in january, is this a reversion to what came before? is this the last four years never happened? >> i think that is a good word, reversion to the obama-biden mean. this looks like a third of term of the o-biden administration. everybody been appointed is part of that. there is a have you things. heather boushey that is interesting, if you look at her vita, she is married to a guy who works at public citizen who is a hawk on trade policy. that might work. cecelia rouse from princeton, you look at her vita, read her articles, there is no there there in terms of broader trade
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and manufacturing and economic nationalism policy. she will do a good job on education policy but the trump administration was really sue which generis, a black swan event for standing up for the american blue-collar worker. i don't see that in this administration, ironic, a democratic administration. gerry: i have to wrap-up. it will not be america first. we can probably agree with that. peter navarro, thank you for joining the white house. >> thank you, gerry. gerry: harvard professor, former obama economics chair jason furman. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. gerry: they announced the economic team. you said tweeted over the weekend this was the dream team. would you elaborate? >> sure. this is outstanding group of people. janet yellen had enormous range of experience. i worked for her in 1990s,
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when shy worked for council of advise source. neera tanden brilliant on policy and economics. gerry: the reservation, people have, jason, these are people who were, as peter navarro said reversion what went before. you can argue what the obama administration did. i know you were a part of that but is there radical new thinking here to meet the challenges, particular challenges that we faced after the last four years but also the new challenges that we face in 2021 and beyond? >> yeah. gerry, let me answer that question, let me say by the way i strongly agree with peter navarro that relief is needed right now. one of the most important economic policies over the next six months will hopefully happen before president biden is sworn in and would love to see congress acting on that now. so that was a very important point that peter that navarro
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made. in terms of new thinking, not everyone thinks the same thing. jared bernstein thinks something different than economic advisors. heather boushey different serve in the obama administration. she is one of the people announced today. the problems have changed too. part of the thinking, immigration strengthens the american economy. if you want to put america first, have talented immigrants come to the country. that is exactly the same view under the obama administration. that is the most damaging thing that has been done to economic policy done by this administration. gerry: let me ask you neera tanden, so far the lightning conductor. mitch mcconnell, still the senate majority leader. one of his advisors said over the weekend tanden's nomination will be a sacrifice to the confirmation gods. she has a reputation for
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slightly partisan. very aggressive accusing the trump administration on the russia administration. do you think she will get through? >> oh, i'm not a good predictor of congress. i can tell you she should get through. this is a very smart woman, a woman devoted her life to public policy. and someone that frankly comes broadly speaking from the center she understands what businesses need to grow the economy. she understands what workers need. gerry: joe biden did say he was looking to unify the country. is she a unifying figure? >> you know i don't agree with every bit of tone on twitter but gerry, have her on. talk to her. she is, she is knowledgeable and she is reasonable on a wide range of issues. she is not an ideologue. she is not an extremist. she is in the mold what we should be lucky to have serving our country. gerry: jason furman. thank you so much for joining us. coming up former peace corps medical director dr. steve
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both pfizer and moderna are well along in phase three. they are presenting their data in the fda. pfizer starts the 10th of december. moderna hopes to go in the next week. i'm sure their data already arrived in washington and has been parsed out to people on the panels. they are looking at it. they won't start cold on the 10th of december. they will look at data. they will look at safety, look at efficacy and make a decision fairly rapidly. if it is positive i know both companies are ready to ship. pfizer ready to ship in the cold storage. moderna is ready to ship and doesn't need cold storage. we could well have vaccines, given to front line medical people before the end of the year. gerry: that is the question, isn't it? how do they determine who getting the vaccines? what order? there are a lot, potentially 330 million americans to
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vaccinate. what is the order people potentially get the vaccine? >> the cdc made the recommendation and already decided. it will go to front line medical workers. go to high-risk people. teachers, students, and then to the general population. we don't have 330 million or really 660 million doses of it yet but the individual states will decide actually who is going to get it first. for example, i live in texas. the gove has a panel here and they will decide litter rally the next couple days the order they will go forward with and it will pretty much follow cdc guidelines. gerry: so realistically, how much of the population needs to be vaccinated before we say we got on top of this thing? >> you heard the term herd immunity. it varies by the disease. we don't know for sure in this disease but most of the scientists are looking at it think about 70%, about 70% of
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the country is immune to this disease and that can be from having the disease or having the vaccine. if we get to 70% we'll probably have herd immunity. we'll have very little flareups going on in places around the country. it will be endemic, a few places here and there but it won't spread. most of the people will be immune. those involved in this are hoping that is by april. gerry: that is great. sounds like light at the end of the tunnel coming soon. thank you very much, dr. steve weinberg. next "the hill" media opinion columnist joe concha takes on this debate. is the media possibly, just possibly, a little soft on joe biden and his team? >> you said today is the angriest you've been as a presidential candidate but you said you're trying to restrain
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♪. gerry: the biden-harris transition team has been busy. in addition to before today's announcing his economic team, yesterday he it announced members of its communication unit. three of them including jen psaki used to work for cnn and msnbc, raising questions about the incoming administration's surprisingly perhaps close ties with the liberal news networks. so how tough is this media going to be on president joe biden? joining me now to discuss that is "the hill" media opinion columnist joe concha. thanks for joining me. >> gerry, how are you? gerry: very well, thank you. i couldn't help but be amused the media, contrast the way media have been treating president-elect biden's roll out of his team and president-elect trump's rollout of his team four years ago. have you noticed any differences between the two? >> oh, four years ago, things were hostile. even during president-elect trump's press conference, 13
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times reporters broached russia and vladmir putin. we're seeing obviously joe biden it is not hostile. it is hospitable. we're seeing stories about the his dog. a cat moving into the white house. we're seeing stories about his socks. we're not seeing scrutiny around policy or people choosing for cabinet. jen psaki comes way of cnn deputy press secretary, core reason pierre. she was with msnbc and before that with moveon.org. she said once on the air, the president will have, trump, will have an asterisk next to his name because of obviously russia interference in the 2016 election, that was disproven by the mueller conclusion anyway. neera tanden before, i was watching the show. she was nominated to run omb. even before the president took office, gerry, she said there during the transition, that the president was a liar. the election was hacked. russians quote did enough damage to affect 70,000 votes in
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wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan. in other words the president cheated. that is why he won. these people are filling the cabinet. i don't see a lot of tough questions around that. particularly to kamala harris the vice-presidential pick. she sent a tweet around a bail fund that people can donate to get rioters out of prison in minneapolis as that situation was escalating earlier this summer. that was 12 days -- 182 days ago. it was 110 days ago she was chosen as joe biden's running mate and she has yet to do a one press conference. she is second most powerful person in the world and she has yet to take questions. gerry: that was the whole of the campaign. i covered presidential campaigns for the last 20 years in this country. i don't believe i ever seen two candidates, joe biden, kamala harris get such light treatment. they didn't present themselves
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at press conferences. didn't present for tough interviews. got easiest ride. the contrast is striking. one of the other striking things, over the four years ago, the last four years, members, people who worked for fox news, for example, joined the trump administration, there was outcry about the revolving door between fox news and the trump team and how outrageous this was. these people who have been paid by cnn and msnbc last four years coming in driving communication policy. the double standards, joe, they are pretty remarkable, aren't they? >> a remarkable poll came out, gerry, showing 86% of the american people, 86% of the people feel the media is biased. 84 believes the media is to blame dividing country. the revolving door you talk about, there is no line between the media holding the powerful accountable. you see them jump and work in government positions and vice versa. we saw that with the obama administration. more than 30 media members went to work for the obama
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administration. we saw the reverse after trump took office, james comey becoming a media darling, gets two books, book tours, showtime series. he is supposed to be apolitical. one of staunchest critics president or andrew mccabe actually was fired for leaking to the press and then get as contract from cnn to talk about ethics in the intelligence communities. it is stunning, gerry. gerry: joe, can they go on like this? there is journalists, a sense of obligation to, there should be a sense of shame by journalists they will not make any effort to hold the administration accountable? do you think they can do this just briefly? >> absolutely not. i will leave it with this, gerry. mr. biden during the rare press conference as staffer to call on reporters, a predetermined list. this is the person who will be leader of the free world? i think china and russia taking
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note, he can't even call on reporters on his own because they're afraid, the campaign is, now the transition taking mr. biden out of his safe space. that is very telling, gerri. gerry: joe cone cha, thank you. as i note in my "wall street journal" column, president trump, president-elect biden not only bringing a couple of animals into the white house, he is bringing a whole menagery of trained household pets in the press corps. expansive and widening power of big tech. how much influence is too much and who should make and enforce the rules? >> except your policies are applied in a part unis a and selective manner. you claimed it was hacked materials yet you didn't block the distribution of "the new york times" story that alleged to talk about president trump's tax returns even though a federal statute makes it a crime to distribute someone's tax returns without their consent? you didn't block any of that
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♪. gerry: tech giants facebook and google are reported to be in the cross-hairs of the justice department. "the wall street journal" is reporting that the companies could be looking at new antitrust lawsuits in the coming weeks. meanwhile the british government has announced plans to create a watchdog agency to police big tech companies to keep them from ex-broughting consumers and -- exploiting consumers and small businesses. we have policy ceo john matz. thanks for joining. >> thank you. gerry: you built a company to take on one of the tech giants. do you think the market can do this or do they need regulation and government oversight? >> i think the market can solve this problem. we believe in competition. so one of the things you mentioned you're taking on one of these companies. yes, today, we're taking on one of the tech companies but we
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plan to take on all of these tech companies because what we are, is a paradigm shift. so we believe in free speech and we believe in data privacy. that you own your own data, not us. and one of the biggest fundamental flaws with these companies, that is landing them in trouble everywhere is that they are not, that they're abusing data. and so by being data neutral, by not getting involved, parler is solving all of these problems. we don't have fancy data driven algorithms. you get what you signed up for. social media has you expect it to be. gerry: now you're taking on particularly twitter and some of those other social networks but if you take a company like google, the market faces much tougher challenges there. google's dominance of the market, search market, 90 plus percent of all searches conducted go through google, its ability to tailor, to use the algorithm to tailor results in a way to reinforce dominance,
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through the marketplace or through directing people to search results that benefit it, surely that does require government intervention, doesn't it? doesn't it require more regulation? >> i'm not really sure on the google front. i don't consider them a direct competitor of ours or a competitor but what is their biggest problem is, is landing them in trouble is their use of data. their data mining and their data collection policies, this is why a model like parler's needs to be applied to the search space as well. one where people don't collect this data. so parler is doing an excellent job on the social media job by giving people back their data and data sovereignty and rights again when it comes to their data. google, a lot of these other companies could take note this is a way to solve a lot of problems they're getting into. gerry: how would you do that at parler? explain to viewers what parler is, how you give users the sovereignty over their own data.
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>> so what we is a free speech social media. we're defined by our neutrality, our uninvolvement if you will in people's content. when people sign up for parler, they can follow whoever they like and say what they like as long as it is legal obviously. they engage creating their own communities. this is different from what everyone else does. a lot of other companies are more editorializing social media. so it is really a true social media experience, one would you imagine you get if you signed up elsewhere but you are not getting. that is really what parlor is. gerry: we've seen instances in the last few weeks where twitter and facebook imposed restrictions most famously on the "new york post" when they publish their stories about hunter biden. they now routinely attach all kinds of warnings and guidance for people whenever people tweet, particularly when the president of the united states tweets for example. you don't do that? you put it out there, as long as
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it is legal say whatever you like? >> that is what the first amendment wants that is about your country is all about. you're entitled to your own opinion, nobody on the internet should stop you from speaking your mind. parler is the last place online you can be truly free, speak your mind, you won't be editorialized by somebody behind a desk somewhere trying to fact check you. this is all about you. gerry: you have attract a lot of people, particularly conservatives, i think fair to say, who are tired of being, if you like censored by twitter or facebook. you have a lot of users of conservative disposition. does that skew your own website, skew your own platform in that direction? does it make it less representative, less universal than say some of the larger social media platforms? >> a lot of larger social media platforms want an echo chamber. that is why they kick out a lot of people they don't agree with. parler on the other hand we
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allow everybody to speak their minds, if you want a conservative following, appeal to conservatives, you can create that on parler. if you want a liberal or progressive following you create that too. if you want a diverse audience, want a mix of all of these or follow art and video games, these are possible on parler. anything is possible. no, it is not just for conservatives but conservatives are definitely welcome as all people are welcome. this is a true town square. gerry: john matz, thanks for joining us. former federal prosecutor, jim trusty on the rising backlash of local and state governments what critics say are selective punishments and arbitrary rules. >> you say to those critics why is everybody allowed to cram themselves into a target or a best buy or into the mall or any other large company, big corporation companies and
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♪. gerry: for months now strict covid-19 lockdown orders have been imposed on citizens across the united states. travel restrictions, mask mandates, curfews, closures, even limits on thanksgiving gatherings in private homes. the routes, many of them enacted by democratic officials in democratic controlled states have gotten stricter and enforcement has intensified but a growing number of people are pushing back. many americans are simply fed up. many frustrated large gatherings like protests like we had over the summer are tolerated while church services are banned. they say enough is enough. as new york governor andrew
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cuomo essentially dismissed a supreme curt court ruling that came down before thanksgiving on restrictions on religious gatherings in certain areas. we have former federal prosecutor, jim trusty. i jim, it was interesting the night before thanksgiving the supreme court came down with that ruling different from the previous rulings came down on this, pretty blistering in its attack on cuomo had done on previous statements the supreme court made. is that upholding the rights of religious organizations to hold gatherings, was that an important turning point? do you think we're finally seeing real scrutiny and real pushback over some of these restrictions? >> yeah i think so and i think it is overdue. you have to remember kind of the basics here. an executive order is not a piece of legislation. nothing that the people's elected officials have passed. it is a single man or woman
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deciding to push something forward designed to be an emergency stopgap type measure. that is the basis in law for all of this is emergency powers. the problem is these emergency powers are getting used more comfortably, more increasingly, more doctor i don't knowianly. draconianly, power of the states are behind it. whatever the executive order, once it is on the books, once you violate it, you convicted of a crime, go to jail, usually a misdemeanor, but a crime nonetheless. the police powers behind governors and mayors, when they make the comments, a variety of facttores are eroding our trust in executive orders to be doing the right thing. i think that is reflected with the supreme court, particularly justice gorsuch who blasted justice roberts as you referred to, we'll not sit down to let these ugly sisters of legislation affect constitutional rights. gerry: what does it mean? as you say the so-called emergency orders have been in place for quite a long time, actually becoming more
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restrictive, courts have traditionally deferred, haven't they to state governments and federal governments in times of emergency. are we now going to see, do you think, more aggressive attempts, covid is still spreading, we're seeing many more cases over the next couple of months with perhaps more deaths, how will that play out, do you think? are we seeing as the states attempt to impose more measures, are more people actually resist them, will they have the help of the law this time? >> i think there will be more resistance. i'm not trying to turn it into chad where everybody just has their own rules. i think what you will see though some genuine reluctance to keep trusting executives to do this right, to do it in a narrowly tailored way. the courts are waking up to the fact that this is not necessarily the same emergency it started as. there is a high infection rate but the death rate is dropping as kind of making it comparable to a seasonal flu. you have high-profile moments of hypocrisy that infect us all as
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well. so i think there is a lot of reasons why the courts are saying we don't want the trend towards executive orders to run roughshod over things like the free exercise of religion or sanctity in your home. first amendment, fourth amendment issues are in play here and i think they're being protective of those rights. gerry: the double standards you see apply, governor of california telling people to stay home, going out to enjoy a expensive dinner in a crowd of people without a mask that really does undermine trust, doesn't it, and faith in this whole process? >> it does. look, it is not just kind of right-wing kooks in their homes that hate the government. it is nothing like that. it is a pretty widespread disgust at the hypocrisy. look at the denver mayor the other night tells everyone stay home, don't celebrate thanksgiving, ten minutes later he is caught on a plane to go to mississippi going to celebrate thanksgiving. there is drumbeat of examples of
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hypocrisy. that calls into question. it isn't particularly heartfelt rules for thee, not for me coming down from on high. there are constitutional issues, carte blanche executive orders, unending executive orders, not tailored to any evidentiary findings. gerry: jim trusty, i'm sure the issue becomes more acute. thank you. retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan how the battle over the border. the trump administration is raising harder to clamp down harder while the biden administration tries to stop trump's marquee administration policies. >> there is over 890% 80% decline of illegal immigration. members about congress are fighting every step of the way.
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director tom homan. tom, you said i quote, would dangerously increase illegal immigration and drug smuggling and biden's position on illegal immigration is not best for the count straw but future political power for democrats. explain what you mean by that. >> exactly right. if biden ends up becoming president, first thing i would do is thank president trump for making the most secure border in my lifetime. illegal immigration is down between 60 to 80% depending what month you look at from the high last year. the success president trump has had, unprecedented success. joe biden should come in to look at the success to build upon it. i don't care republican, democrat, independent, there is no downside on a secure border. there is no downside on less illegal immigration. no downside on less illegal drugs, no downside on taking millions of dollars out of the cartel hands, no downside people dying making the journey, no downside of 31% of women being
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raped, no downside being a sovereign nation protecting americans. this is a win. joe biden should build upon the success and not tear down out of spite. in 2006, you voted for the secure fence act which would spend up to $50 billion on border barriers. now he says he will tear it down out of spite because owe is being pushed by the progressive left. gerry: a lot of things of course president trump did president trump over last four years did by executive order. had authority to do them under executive order. didn't need congressional legislation, joe biden may do the same especially they may not control the senate. what do you think most fear about biden administration, one of the things he will do early on that will undo when president trump has done. >> if he follows through on promises he made, limit i.c.e. detention, put moratorium on deportations and worksite enforcement operations, support sanctuary cities, pass an amnesty bill which rewards
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illegal behavior, on taupe of that offer free medical care to illegal aliens, why would you not want to come to the greatest country on earth? you will see a border surge like you have never seen before, if he keeps those promises he made during the campaign. we lose the border if he follows through on those promises. gerry: what can president trump do? he has, he still challenging the election of course. he still hopes he will be there after january 20th. assuming he doesn't succeed, he has only seven weeks, whatever it is 50 days to go to the inauguration what can he do in the remaining seven weeks, do you think, that could help to cement in place some of the changes that he has made? >> look, we're going to keep building the wall right to the last day, whether it is in january or in another four years. he is going to keep pushing common sense immigration policies that immigration should be based on merit, not who can sneak across the line and cheat the system. i can't blame anybody would be want to be part of the greatest
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country on earth. you can't be part of the greatest country on earth and not disrespect our laws. you can't disrespect the country as your first act to come into the country. president trump is a warrior. done more to secure the border than any president i worked for starting since ronald reagan. i respect every president i worked for. the fact he has done more, will continue to do more, until the last day in office when that will be. gerry: president trump challenged cities that declared themselves sanctuary cities and havens for illegal immigrants. what would happen do you think again if biden comes in, undoes a lot of that, many of these cities, many more cities perhaps become sanctuary cities, what do you think that will do to what may happen in the country? >> well look, i think sanctuary cities, let's be clear, sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals. sanctuaries for someone in the united states illegally and commit as crime against a u.s. citizen. they get released from a sanctuary jail back to the
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community to reoffend rather than turn over to i.c.e. it is bad for public safety. it is bad for officer safety. rather than i.c.e. arresting them in the facility, we're surrounded by officers and he is behind the wire. we have to find him and knock on the door. when we have to go find them we have to go into the community. where we'll find other illegal aliens that weren't even on the radar. it puts officers at risk. it puts the community at risk. sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals. they need to be outlawed. if biden becomes president, with a vice president kamala harris who compared i.c.e. to the kkk, these sanctuary cities continue to grow in this country which is dangerous for the american citizen. gerry: tom homan, thank you so much indeed for joining us. i'm gerry baker in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it tonight for us. thanks for watching. have a very good evening. ♪ here tomorrow.
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♪ lou: good evening, everybody. president trump today demanding the federal government move with urgency on two critical fronts. president trump telling the food and drug administration to act quickly to approve a vaccine to fight the china virus pandemic. u.s. drugmaker moderna today fueled for an emergency use authorization -- filed for an emergency use authorization of their vaccine. moderna becomes the second company to do so after pfizer filed for its emergency use authorization two weeks ago. moderna says its vaccine is 94% effect

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