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susan: are we soliciting negative questions again. stuart: yes. hate stu week, what is wrong with that. susan: we're sifting through them. stuart: send the hate mail, boys and girls, please. my time is up. thankfully, neil, it is now yours. neil: i will be happy to share the hate mail. just want to do anything i can, stuart. looking forward to friday, my friend. meantime looking forward to as you were kind of indicating, a flat day on wall and broad. dow jones industrials not budging. a strong start to the month. the dow still a little ways here, keeping an eye own that all of this has to do with confusion over whether we get stimulus in a lame-duck session in congress. yesterday i had a chance to talk with democratic senator hassan.
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we'll examine that. then the backlash over restrictions in the golden state. in california where they're really putting big restrictions on everything from restaurants to gym owners. we'll talk to a couple who are very upset about that trend. in hewlett-packard, yet another big, bold-faced corporate name to say in california we are out of here. we're moving to texas. houston in particular. why do you think they did that? give you a hint. they will save a lot on taxes. welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto and this is kos to coast. get the read on the big development of the day an approval of an american vaccine but by another country that has some in this country saying wait a minute, isn't this our drug, our company, our thing? not so fast. let's go to edward lawrence in washington, d.c. with more on that. hey, edward. reporter: alluding to the fact that the flighted kingdom will become the first to approve vaccine that will go into arms
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next week. the government approved the pfizer biontech vaccine. on december 10th, the fda is taking up emergency use authorization for the same company's vaccine in the u.s. senior administration official confirmed for me yes, 24 to 48 hours after approval in the u.s. the doses will be delivered and ad hundred sistered. in fact pfizer doing practice runs this week to make sure the distribution network holds according to the general in charge of "operation warp speed" for the dod. today the cdc director robert redfield will finalize recommendations by the cdc panel who gets the vaccine in the u.s. first. he is worried about who is not getting the vaccine. listen. >> even though we get control of covid which i think we will by the third quarter of this year, the pandemic in the world is not going to be controlled for multiple years. and so we'll always have a global risk of reduction through susceptibles that haven't been
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vaccinated. reporter: the panel recommendation redfield is looking at puts health care workers to be first in line for the vaccine. then people in long-term health facilities also in in the first phase. we talked with a few doctor friends of mine in the last 12 hours say they can't wait to give the vaccine, to give them peace of mind as they to go to work. there are millions of doses on the shelf. listen. >> advisory committee by december 10th, hopefully days we'll have approval here and we should have six million doses releasable of pfizer vaccine at this point. we make more every day. reporter: six million. federal officials say they will have 40 million doses by the end of this month between pfizer and moderna whose hear something coming up on december 17th. because the first vaccines will likely be approved require two doses, that vaccine, vaccinates about 20 million people in the first month. neil? neil: it's a start as you said. edward, thank you very much.
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edward lawrence in washington. want to go to congressman buddy carter, republican from georgia. he was among the pfizer vaccine trial participants. congressman very good to have you, on very newsy day. one thing stands out is that the united kingdom jumped first approving this before our own regulators. should we be worried about that? >> i don't know we should be worried about it but i will be quite honest with you, it sounds the committee is not meeting until december the 10th and 17th. that is the first time they can approve it. why can't you have a special called meeting? this is urgent. i'm a little disturbed by that but hello is on the way and that is good news. neil: you know, you were a participant in the early trials for this. what did that involve, congressman? >> well, first of all i had to go through a history and physical. i had to do lab work, all of
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those things that you would expect before you enter into a trial like that. and then of course i got my first dose which really didn't impact me at all. then i had to keep a log of any kind of side-effects, daily log of how i was feeling, which i felt fine after the first dose. when i got the second dose i did have some symptoms. i had mall malease and let that aregy. that leads me to i got the vaccine. it was double blind study. doctors, nurses don't know whether you get a placebo or vaccine. what i think is antibody reaction i think i may have gotten a vaccine. neil: you know a lot of people will hear that, congressman, because a lot of people have not discuss the politics side of this wondering if this is being rushed outlyally i think that has -- politically but i think
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this is put to regs. americans have anxiety of vaccines period. hearing what you went through whether placebo or not, i understand that you will never know, do you think it is going to give people pause? they will think, you know, my odds, if i'm a young person really being hurt by this virus are such that i don't want to take a risk with a vaccine. what do you tell them? >> first of all let me be clear, my symptoms were very mild and that is what you expect. that really lets you know that the vaccine is working when you have those mild symptoms like this. listen, i am extremely confident, very confident that this will be safe and effective. now it will not be mandatory. people have a choice and i certainly respect their right to have a choice but i will tell you i encourage everyone to get a vaccine. vaccines are some of the greatest health care progress that we've made during our lifetime and they have saved so many lives over some years that
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i think it is just wrong not to take the vaccine, not only for your own health but for the health of others as well. we can stop the virus. we will stop the virus. vaccines will be a big part of us doing just that. neil: you know in your own home state of georgia, congressman, there is runoff election january 5th of the two senators, republican incumbents. the president is going to campaign on their behalf on sunday but he already urged the georgia governor to call off senate runoffs, suspicious the way georgia counts votes, caused a lot of intra-party here. where are you on this? do you think it will hurt the republican senators in the runoff? >> there is no question about it, the balance of power in the united states senate and in the united states government lies in the state of georgia. we have to win those two seats. there is no question about that we have to get people out and they have to vote. i don't want to discourage anyone from voting. in fact i want to do just the
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opposite. i want to encourage them to get out to vote. all freedoms, i think freedom to vote is one of the greatest freedoms we enjoy. we oh so much to veterans and everyone who fought for the right and freedom. neil: do you worry though that the president is muddying that message though? his own concern about fraud and all sorts of things, secretary of state, your governor, your lieutenant governor said have not occurred? even yesterday, barr, attorney general certainly not on wide enough level to have cost the president the election to the degree that he claims. do you think the president should cease and desist this kind of talk? >> certainly i think the president understands as well as anyone how important these two races are, how important we win the races he will do everything he can to make sure we do win those races. he is coming to georgia as you
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indicated. he has been campaigning hard, doing everything he can to get david perdue and kelly loeffler elected to the united states senate. i appreciate. neil: do you think he is helping or hurting them, congress? i'm curious, you're pretty savvy of read of things, you're fondness of the president, that his approach will hurt them? >> well certainly you know at some point which have to put november 3rd behind us. we have to move forward. you know, i agree with the president, i think there were discrepancies in the november 3rd election. they need to be looked into. we need to study them, understand them, correct them. january 5th we need to make sure we get out and vote. we need to make sure all of our people get out to vote. i think everyone carrying that message will help. neil: all right. congressman buddy carter, great catching up with you, hope you have a wonderful holiday, safe, healthy one. thanks for the help on the pfizer study. you paved for the way what could be a very promising vaccine.
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christina coleman, fox correspondent looking what is going on in san francisco and elsewhere in the golden state where they're really, really tightening up the restriction, so much so it almost leads like a lockdown. what is going on? reporter: neil, when comes to following health guidelines president joe biden says this we're all in this together. many say it doesn't feel like that in california many politicians are breaking the rules they want us all to follow. the day after governor gavin newsom went to a dinner at the french laundry, san francisco's mayor london breed dined out at same place. she celebrated a the birthday after socialite. breed says san francisco might roll out even more covid restrictions like further limiting indoor and outdoor gatherings because of the surge in covid infections. san jose mayor, sam lacardo taking some heat. he urged people not to have big thanksgiving gatherings, he went to his parents holiday dinner
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which had relatives from five households. he said he apologized but said they were socially distanced at gathering. l-l l.a. county democrat supervisor, sheila kuehl voted to ban outdoor dining called it dangerous and was seen outdoors in santa monica after the controversial edict went into effect. people protested outside her home. the california restaurant association is going with a judge with new evidence showing how the outdoor dining ban could financially devastate restaurants. meantime the governor warned we're on the brink of even more covid lockdowns across california. health officials worry about another surge in cases following the thanksgiving break. neil? neil: what a mess, christina. thank you very, very much. christina coleman following all of that in our l.a. bureau. now a gym owner says not one more time, don't even think about shutting me down or my colleagues down. i can't deal with it.
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he is the self-made training facility ceo. he joins us right now. miguel, what is the latest as far as what the state is recommending for you. >> they're advising us work outdoors or shut down our complete establishment. obviously with the amount of information and data we have now we're not going to be abiding to that we understand exactly what is going on, especially dealing with a virus that does attack the immune system. ultimately we understand that. through health and fitness we build people's immune system. we have given the people mental capability to fight this thing. obviously dealing with many different factors comes to the shutdowns. we understand shutdowns are far greater increasing the suicide deaths, substance abuse, domestic abuse, everything that goes with people not having an outlet. not only that, we as franchise we're very cautious of our approach. we've done every protocol to keep our environment safe, at
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the same token, the philosophy that he has one shoe fits all, it didn't fit our programing. we're not technically a gym. we're a private establishment. personal training only, coaching only. everything is done by appointment. we control what goes in and out of our facilities at all times. neil: so if the state were to say, or city, county, were to say you got to shut down you're saying no, you won't do that. >> we will not do that. we have enough information, enough data, riverside county, corporate headquarters in riverside county, our death rate here for riverside county per population is .05768%. the amount of beds available are also in high numbers. the data does not support another shutdown. like i said it can't be a one shoe fits alpha loss if i. it has to be very strategic. we also understand the, you know the amounts of deaths that people with obesity is a high
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number. so why not educate the consumer, bring them up to par when it comes to their health and fitness? neil: no, no, you're making a lot of sense. you're making a lot of sense but i'm sure you're aware what happened to this staten island bar/restaurant owner who you know, was arrested and dragged out of his establishment for defying local authorities. that could happen to you. >> it can but at the same token we have a very strong legal team and we understand how to approach this again they're infringing on our constitutional rights to operate. we are doing everything possibly to keep everybody safe. we just have the amount of information, data that does not support a shutdown. i can understand the first shutdowns -- neil: that is quite a fight, right? it could go a while. back and forth on shutdowns whether they're necessary. hypocrisy among politicians, it has got to rattle you? >> it does but at same token i
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come from nothing. homeless by the time i was 16. i understand what it is to have nothing. i can empathize with people just trying to survive, right? by the same token if we give them an outlet to keep them stable and build their health then we're doing our part. neil: i wish you well, miguel. they're messing with the wrong guy if they try to mess with you. keep us posted. miguel aguilar, self-made training facility ceo. they can do things lie appointment. honor distancing other provisions states and municipalities have been calling for. we'll see how all of that sorts out. the dow down 31 1/2 points right now. optimism about vaccines that are coming and quite a few could be coming in the new year, not just what you're seeing with pfizer and pretty soon with moderna but many more are coming. stay with us. ♪.
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distributed more than 157,000 patient courses of two authorized antibody products across the united states an allocate ad total of 205,000 courses for delivery to states. more than 3,000 sites are currently signed up to offer these treatments. we also launched a pilot program that will explore how to reach vulnerable population with the treatments and offer the treatments in even more convenient locations. as we americans need to know this treatment is possible option for patients at high-risk for severe covid-19 but who have not been hospitalized that includes all americans over the age of 65. that is the definition we're using in this case for risk of severe covid-19. receiving this treatment, if you're in that category could help keep you out of the hospital potentially helping to save your life. so we want to encourage the news
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media, and all americans spread the availability of covid-19 treatments and want to encourage americans to start playing the role that they will have in an event all vaccine too. vaccines will only bring the pandemic to an end if enough americans choose to take these vaccines. we now have highly promising efficacy data that i believe many americans are encouraged by and excited about. but i want to encourage americans to get prepared and get educated now. visit the cdc's website to find out more about the vaccines we're developing and the process they have gone through. if you have questions now, questions further down the road, talk to your health care provider about the importance of safe and eeffective vaccines have to our own health and the health of our communities. these vaccines will be tested with the same rigor that americans expect from any drug
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or vaccine reviewed by the fda. as each one of us here have said, we're excited to take the vaccine. we will encourage our family and friends to do so too as appropriate. i apologize i won't be able to stay throughout today's q&a because of another media engagement but i will be back next week for the full hour but before i would close i would just like to make a plea to individuals who have had covid-19 and recovered. if you're within three months since recovery from covid-19, we need to you donate plasma. over a quarter million courses of convalescent plasma have been used on your fellow americans to help prevent severe consequences from covid-19. unfortunately so many individuals gotten covid-19 recovered now fortunately but we need donations. please contact the local american red cross, the local american blood bank or go to
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coronavirus.gov you how you can volunteer to be a donor to give the gift of life. with that i turn things over to the capable hands of our leaders, who will lead the rest of the briefing and the qa and. i will see you at this briefing next week. thank you very much. dr. slawi. thank you, mr. secretary. just a few points to add i think the excellent summary that the secretary has provided. very, very rich week in new data information. so on the moderna vaccine side of things the final analysis has now been completed with 94.1 efficacy again, moderate and severe disease. importantly there were 30 cases of severe disease in the trial. all 30 in the placebo group. so 100% efficacy.
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there were 7500 and some elderly people aged over 65 and efficacy in that population against moderate disease was 87.1% and efficacy against severe disease was 100% there were no cases in the vaccine group. i think those are very important data to keep in mind. this exceptionally good data, and in fact remarkably similar to the data that you have already seen coming from, with the pfizer vaccine and obviously as the secretary said the fact that an external regulatory agency of the highest caliber and standards equivalent to those of the fda, the uk mhra, has approved the pfizer vaccine. of course they have not been a
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part or involved in any of the politicization that surrounded the development of this vaccine and i hope this will be another evidence for for the data for the vaccines are clear, transparent and demonstrate and effective and safe for use in the general population because as the secretary said vaccines are useless if they're not used to vaccinate people. i think also really great progress with two other vaccines in the pipeline. johnson & johnson vaccine which is a recmitant vaccine torre recruited a little more than 28,000 subjects in the phase three trial. the hope we hope with the
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vaccine it's a one-shot vaccine with very fast efficacy achieved and 100% compliance so to speak since everyone with one shot get the full vaccination schedule. it will be very important for the all americans that get the moderna or pfizer vaccine to have the first vaccine dose and come back either three or four weeks later to get their second vaccine dose to complete the immunization schedule. the next vaccine in the line is the astrazeneca live vector vaccine. the phase three trial that is conducted here in the u.s. and the "operation warp speed" oversight so it is different trial than the uk-brazil trials that have been communicated about last week is progressing very well. we have about 15,000 subjects recruited in the trial. both the onset trial and johnson & johnson and the
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astrazeneca trial are likely to complete their efficacy requirement, which is number of cases accruing in the study somewhere between very late in december and the middle of january, given unfortunately that the pandemic is extremely active and there is a lot of transmission in the population. including on the side of vaccine i would like to remind you that fortunately the investments we have made in scaling up and starting to stockpile manufacturing of the vaccines allow us to feel confident that we will be able to distribute 20 million, enough vac soon to immunize 20 million people in the u.s. december, 14 million doses and 30 million people, 60 million doses in january and 50 million people or 100 million doses in march. so between december, mid-december and of, sorry, in
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february, and end of february we will have potentially immunized 100 million people which is really more or less the size of the significant at risk population, the elderly, the health care workers, the first line workers, people with comorbidity. of course i will be happy to answer your questions later on and pass to general perna. >> thanks, dr. slaoui as always very informative for us. team, i want to talk quickly about three things, allocation update, our distribution and support of the state plans, our ability to empower them, to execute their plans and then third, just to reinforce the challenge, my word, to secretary azar's comments at the end about learning about vaccines. so you know, first reference, allocations, we have provided 64
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jurisdictions which reminder is 50 states, eight territories and six megacities as well as might have federal agencies with their allocations of the vaccines that are going to be available in the month of december. what we've done is we believe for planning purposes only, we had to pick a date. i coined the date, snap the chalk line, so we can plan on actual doses that will be available. week 1/2 ago -- neil: we'll keep monitoring. big news, the first shot of vaccine could come in couple days. you might see 20 million vaccines by the end of year. pfizer drug is two-dose drug would limit number of people. some could get this literally a
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matter of days. good news on that front. we're also learning that the cdc is changing quarantine demands for those that test positive for the virus, best way to reduce it obviously not to test positive for it at all postively, to say it is open to 10 to seven-day quarantines, seven to 10-day quarantines i should say, not the 14-day. all of this at a time there is a race among major drug companies to get vaccines out, not only this pfizer drug getting all the attention once approved in the united kingdom for regulators here wrote off on it. that is because the united kingdom was open to do this very, very early on. we could see a similar nod from the fda soon. but we're also looking at another treatment by moderna and down the road astrazeneca which itself was offering that could mean by mid-january three different vaccines could be out and in people's hands by then
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♪. neil: well you can never please anybody and president-elect joe biden finding out the hard way. a lot of progress serves within his party are not too keen on his cabinet choices thus far including obviously looking at rahm emanuel for a key post. let's get latest from hillary vaughn what has got their dander
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up. hillary? reporter: neil, when it comes to rahm emanuel that is one of the picks being considered for roles like transportation secretary or for u.s. trade representative it is not just sparking outrage from progressives but also from labor unions and also african-americans who are critical of his history but when you also look at the way biden has made his picks for his cabinet, he really has focused making history, appointing women, people of color to positions. his latest pick for the, to head the office of management and budget, neera tanden, would be the first woman of color in that position but her past comments that she has made mainly on twitter has created a lot of controversy within her own party. she has tweeted, 30,000 times more than president trump. some of those tweets are hostile to sitting senators she needs to win over in order to get confirmed including senator bernie sanders who said this about tanden in 2019. neera tanden repeatedly calls
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for unity simultaneously maligning my staff and supporters and belittling progressive ideas but republicans in the senate are brushing off her tweets but not her politics. >> this is a woman who wants congress to hold up coronavirus relief for the american people so we can give checks to illegal immigrants. there is no chance neera tanden will be confirmed. she might as well step aside or joe biden might as well withdraw her and go back to the drawing board. reporter: biden's transition team reportedly weighing a less visible role for rahm emanuel with controversy from labor unions, appointing emanuel to labor secretary would abbey trail. progressives are outspoken against rahm emanuel. alexandria ocasio-cortez, congresswoman tweeted this, what is so hard to understand? rahm emanuel helped cover up the murder of laquan mcdonald. covering up a murder is
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disqualifying for public leadership. i did just get off the phone with a biden transition official, even though there is a lot of controversy surrounding neera tanden for his pick, they are confident they're still going to get senate democrats to back her nomination. neil? neil: yeah, but if it's a republican senate, that will be an uphill battle. we'll watch it closely, hillary, thank you very much for that. reaction with danielle dimartino booth. we have jillian melchior joining us from "the wall street journal." jillian, without getting too sidetracked on the salve -- staffing of joe biden candidate and senior staff, what do you make of the consensus view developed on wall street, it is a about spending crowd, a big stimulus crowd and wall street doesn't have a problem with that? >> i think that is certainly true. you are seeing the biden incoming administration be focused on bigger government and bigger spending but i think the
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real interesting dynamic is pushback within the democratic party. whether joe biden will govern as a moderate or cave in to the more radical progressive wing of his party. i still don't think that we know. neil: you know, danielle, we already have jerome powell feels about stimulus. the fed head is keen on seeing it because we're still in precarious times. steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary wants to see something done in this lame-duck session. do the markets want that? >> well, i don't just think that the marketing -- markets want that. i think they priced it in and then some. one of the surprising things i heard today, mcconnell is suggesting that the unemployment benefits supplied but the cares act, roughly 13, receiving unemployment benefits, seeing
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only extension of one month, but nancy pelosi is looking for extension for three months as part of continuing resolution on september 11th. seems we're a bit far apart in terms of what mcconnell is willing to do and what pelosi is willing to do. i'm frankly shocked that mcconnell is asking for only that one month. that puts the onus on the new congress immediately to pass fresh legislation or you're going to have people whose benefits expired at the end of december expire at the end of january. so you're buying a few weeks time. i think it is this type of back and forth are very concerning to jay powell and to steve mnuchin because you're not talking about a lot of money here. it is much more mcconnell trying to draw a hard-line. neil: you know, jillian, meantime, slowdown in job creation in this country, latest adp report, harkening back to levels we haven't seen since last summer.
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maybe a preview of coming attractions for the big labor report on friday. but the data fed this argument, to the point we maybe do need substantial stimulus. that things could be petering out. what do you think of that? >> i do think what we've seen the lockdown strategy is not sustainable. [inaudible]. it also by the way takes a pretty significant toll on mental health. we're seeing big cities deteriorate. what is happening in new york city right now is a national tragedy but i do think there is hope on the horizon with the vaccine. it is getting people to that point. there is real concern if we don't learn to live with it meantime the economic cost will be bigger. we've seen also businesses springing back when they have the opportunity to do so so i think it is striking a balance. the real encouraging news there are vaccines on the horizon. gotten a lot better treating covid. some treatments are driving down
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the mortality rate. this is not the march scenario again. neil: danielle, we don't know how the roll out of the vaccines will go. a lot of folks are relieved there are vaccines out there. we do see moves on the part of health authorities cutting down, you know, lock don times or where, 14 days you have to sort of quarantine as few as seven days now. things are opening up a little bit despite the fact, a lot of states, for example, they're clamping down. we're getting mixed signals. what do you think? >> there is a ton of mixed signals going on. part has to do with the fact we've got hospitalizations are double what they were just about five weeks ago. so that is alarming a lot of people. i'm in the state of texas where there is no such thing as a lock down. if we continue to see hospitalizations increase at rate we have, neil, we'll have involuntary closures of bars and reduced capacity in restaurants. a lot of this has to do with,
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this kind of tug-of-war in between when we'll get the vaccine to the people and when the actual fatality count starts to come off. neil, we've only seen thee other days since covid hit our shores including yesterday that we've seen as high of a fatality count as what we saw yesterday. you have to go back to april to see as many americans lose their lives as what happened tragically yesterday. so, again, i'm not talking about the california, i'm not talking about either coast. in at who have states the virus is going to dictate in the short, intermediate term what the level of shutdown is as we all hope that this vaccine can get distributed very quickly, to mitigate the economic damage. neil: all right. danielle, thank you very, very much. jillian, thank you very much. by the way, jillian, nice job getting your tree up already. put us all to shame, young lady. we'll see how all of that goes. not the tree thing, but where the economy thing goes. we have a lot more coming up
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reading there, neil, you find some very fascinating, somewhat hypocritical things on this, in this proposal which basically says that you have to, essentially have to have a diverse board of one or two members of minority groups, women, lbgtq, and then there is a matrix. if you don't meet those qualifications after you disclosing it, the nasdaq could delist you. so i went through this and then i spoke with some people at the nasdaq. fascinating that nasdaq does not reveal in either the press release or proposal itself, the vast majority of listed companies, number on saying, background is 3/4 would fail the diversity test. you would assume that nasdaq is running sort of a sexist operation because so many of its companies don't meet its own diversity goals, either through,
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either through actual board membership or disclosure, that the disclosure is weak. nasdaq itself, it does not reveal that it is, it is not living up to its own rules that it is doing now. that for many years were allowed to happen. we should point out that the diversity rules for foreign companies appear incredibly unworkable. there is a different matrix for foreign companies. obviously they don't have to meet the same diversity rules for u.s. companies but there is some, some rules there that would force underrepresented minorities to be onboard of foreign companies. so i posed this question to the nasdaq, neil, would a persecuted minority in china be forced to be on, would a chinese company be forced to put that persecuted minority, one of the muslim minorities on its board of directors? they obviously have no answer to that. the obvious answer is no.
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obvious answer, obvious question, isn't that hypocritical based on what you're trying to do here? so, you know that is where we are on this thing. it will, this will get some heat. it will be some blowback, why do you have a exchange, neil? an exchange is to raise capital to promote jobs and to, and to increase the wealth of the country. the notion that an exchange should be getting involved in these issues, particularly forcing the sec, a government entity to enforce diversity rules could also be unconstitutional. andrew napolitano, our good friend made that point to me, the fact they brought in the sec, probably could lead to court challenges and they could lose in court on that if this thing goes through. back to you. neil: yeah. something tells me this is more for pr than anything else. >> sounds like it to me, too. neil: thank you very much. charlie gasparino, following, go
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ahead, finish that point. >> no, listen, all these corporate -- i think the public has to realize that there is a degree of virtue signaling from the nasdaq as it is from goldman sachs, as it is from blackrock and larry fink over there because you know, listen, we've been talking about diversity for years. companies are making strides to that, it is a worthy goal but the notion it is mandated seems right now to be something that they're looking to score some quick public relations points on that issue. neil: all right. charlie, thank you very much for that. keep us updated how this goes. charlie gasparino. meantime, obviously this was the year of the pandemic and everything else but it was also the year we saw a significant surge in sales and activity, impossible foods, impossible burger all these non-meat products but this next case is a little different. eat just, makes lab-grown meat.
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tastes like chicken, it is lab-grown chicken but doesn't come from the chicken. they defy you to taste the difference. josh joins us, hope i pronounce it correctly, josh, founder, ceo of the company. singapore gone ahead offered regulatory approval for the lack-grown meat. can you tell us what this is all about? >> it is very much chicken, neil. this is the first time in history that meat without requiring killing an animal has been approved. singapore is the very first country to do it. neil: so how did you mimic the favor of actual chicken? from the reviews i heard people can't tell the difference. >> what we did, we took a cell from a chicken. we identified nutrients to feed the cell. then we manufacture it in a
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piece of equipment called a bio reactor. you're able to make chicken with much fewer carbon emissions, a whole lot less land, and a whole lot less water. we think it will be the future of meat. neil: so for those who are strict vegetarians, this is okay, you can have this? >> exactly. well, i'll tell you if you're vegetarian and you don't want to eat meat this is very much meat. if you have a chicken allergy, you definitely will have an allergic outbreak but if you are a vegetarian for moral reasons, if you're vegetarian, care about the environment, care about mitigating climate change, care about animal welfare you shouldn't have an issue with this at all. we really think, neil, in the next, five, 10, 15 years the majority of meat will be consumed on the planet will be cult you ared meat.
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it is not plant-based, cultured, more safe, in a way a lot more sustainable. a lot of more people coming on to the planet. we have a rise of zonotic diseases and we need to raise meat without issues and we think this is the technology that can do it. not only for the food system and meat industry and for planet we want to live on for the future. neil: i'm not aware of the details healthwise, whether it is good for cholesterol, whether it is fewer calories than traditional chicken. any details on that, josh? >> so the nutritional composition is the same. cholesterol is the same, protein, the fat is the same. it is free of antibiotics. that is significant health
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benefit. safe from health issues, salmonella, e.coli, other contamination. from food safety perspective it is whole lot better. for the inefficiency of animal production, there are 67 billion chickens on the planet today. those chickens are hungry. they need corn, soy, mowing down planet and trees to make chicken fields there is a way to eat meat sustainable for your body sustainable for the planet. really important thing ultimately we can make this lower cost than conventional meat. sort of begs the question why would any restaurant or any consumer do anything different? neil: very interesting. we'll follow it very closely. josh tetric. east just, cofounder. it is out there, it is happening, it is real. what does it mean for the mcrib? that is a whole separate thing.
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neil: in the year of the pandemic indy not a year of hope about a way to treat the pandemic, a vaccine that will eradicate the pandemic, that is the hope that the united kingdom has approved pfizer biotech
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combined vaccine effort that should have people getting the first doses in just a matter of days, is this the byproduct of an accelerated schedule, operation warp speed, pfizer said it was not part of the program with the united kingdom that approved this before regulators of the united states did but it is out there and it's going to spread out there and it's going to have a lot of impact everywhere. edward lawrence following on how that is impacting and talk of more treatments that could, in the weeks and months ahead. >> this is going to affect people "coast to coast", pfizer may not have been taking money from operation warp speed but pfizer benefited from the regulations and the streamlining of this process in order to get this stuff to the possible approval of a vaccine, there is a news conference about operation warp speed they are
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laying out how plans are going to gear up and go into action going forward, secretary of health and human services said from submission from approval is about four weeks on the pfizer vaccine, he says that shows the sciences working here. listen. >> if all goes well, as general layout, that means we can make our first shipment of the vaccine this month and were on track to ship enough vaccines for 20 million americans before the end of the year. >> the heads of operation warp speed are looking at 100 million people being vaccinated by march of that country next year end that covers the healthcare workers in the vulnerable to the virus, there will be an initial push as you heard of the doses going out and as doses are made the flow will continue to keep going, one of the groups not being vaccinated this time around is kids, they will be the last because the trials have not finished related to kids in the
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cdc director said schools need to reopen and now the mountain of data to back that up. >> we now have substantial data that shows that schools face-to-face learning can be conducted k-12 particular in elementary and middle schools in a safe and responsible way. >> the cases that happened at schools came from outside the school and did not transmit within the schools, redfield says he believes kids attending in person classes will have a lower rate when the studies are finished of having code covid vs virtual learning because her in the communities that will be affected by all of this, as we go through all of the phases for the vaccinations, doctor redfield believes first and second quarter will be a lockdown continuing to go on and
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he said life will not return to normal especially to concerts and gatherings until fall of 2021. neil: thank you, my friend, great reporting, edward lawrence in washington following all of that. you have heard of vaccine is out there but you probably raised her eyebrow when you heard it was the united kingdom that signed off on it and not in the united states like the food and drug administration, the doctor on "fox & friends" is morning said something is very wrong with this picture. >> it is taking us and embarrassing long time, the fda is dragging their feet for no good reason, there is a lifesaving vaccine in over 1500 people dying of day right now. neil: is the fda dragging its feet or did the united kingdom sees on the initiatives and little time trying to get this capitalized, peter pence is the former associate commissioner, commissioner what do you think, you've heard the criticism, we
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started this, we had warp speed, i know pfizer said it was not part of that but it did benefit from the regulations but i am wondering what you make of the criticism, largely an american company i'm not talking about biontech but certainly pfizer, how did this happen what do you think. >> that comment is ignorant to blame the fda for pu slowing don the process has a complete the upside down from the fda has been one of the most important of the ecosystem made this happen in ten months. one of the reasons fda is taken a little bit longer than nhra which is an equivalent in the united kingdom as the fda is holding an advisory committee of vaccine experts to help them look at the data, that has two beneficial pieces. the first we want the best brains looking at technology because we will roll this out to the entire population and try to educate them to the value in the
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safety and secondly is education, people have to understand the fda process is entirely transparent and going outside experts for one day to get their opinion is worthwhile, why we waited an additional week, we want the experts to look at the data and give us their informed decisions, do we want this sooner rather than later, of course but we've gone very fast, we don't want to rush or make mistakes but we do want to expedite which is what were doing. neil: got it, you do make sense, you want to get it up better late and right then possibly wrong. is there any danger to the united kingdom writing off on this or those who will get the first doses that they acted to fascination waited a little while? >> these are exactly the types of decisions that each country has to make. the empty name is not the
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regular for the world, mhr has different processes and they look at a rolling basis, they knew more earlier on in the process, the fda got started once pfizer gave them the data, i think both countries are doing the right thing, i would like it sooner rather than later but it's crucial to public in the u.s. has perfect faith that the fda process is on its transparent in the present is demanding more from things of gone faster and i understand he wanted done quicker, i get that, i agree but you can't rush it, showing any pressure is only going to be trusting the process in getting back stated would choose the key thing and having an approved vaccine which is ready to ship which alex azar said, public confidence is as important as the science of this point. neil: commissioner, the cdc is re-examining the rules on quarantine and how long you should be quarantines if the contractor come into contact with someone who has contracted the virus, moving it from 14
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days to seven days, what do you think of that. >> i think it makes perfect sense, they had this information a while back and they should've told everybody, it's a wild virus, we recognize a certain number of days in quarantine is responsible, 7 - 10 days makes a lot of sense, i think that's a good thing and we need to communicate that, also relative to the priority audiences for the vaccine, i believe teachers should be included because kids have come down less if they do get it, the severity is much more mild and all school staffs, as were vaccinating healthcare workers and senior citizens in senior centers, that is right is well, teachers coming up behind the groups. neil: the former fda associate commissioner for medicine. thank you for taking the time and communist down per because they needed that take a look at
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washington as something that is more of an urgent need, keeping the government lights on keeping the government away from a potential shutdown, i know that seems unfathomable but it's possible, chad with the latest on where things stand. >> here's where we stand with coronavirus, remember when you were in school and we have activity when you play soccer or choir after school they would run the first run of the activity bus, if you missed that you have to pass the second one and if you missed that there was alaska bus to take, that's where they are with coronavirus and trying to fund the government, there down to the last bus, they miss trying to get a coronavirus deal back in the summer, that was the first activity bus, they miss a second just before the election and now there down to the last activity bus trying to get it wrapped up just before christmas and for the end of this congress.
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and yesterday mitch mcconnell put out a $550 per run a virus bill, a skinny bill and that the piece of legislation that steven mnuchin the secretary, the treasury likes. >> the president will sign the proposal that you put forward yesterday and we will look forward to making progress on that. >> is unclear if the bill could get 60 votes to overcome the filibuster in senior senate republican sources doubt that mcconnell's plan will go anywhere which likely can't clear up filibuster crafted by partisan coalition of senators and they think mcconnell's approach is too narrow. >> later mcconnell skinny package, there's nothing for hospitals or nursing homes and nothing for nutrition or food, nothing for state and local, nothing for rental assistance, nothing for opioid treatment and nothing for broadband. >> is said that the pandemic changed everything, not quite on capitol hill, we always have a
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christmastime crisis on capitol hill, this time trying to fund the government, the deadline is the 11th of december, richard shelby the senate for appropriation committee said yesterday he thought they might have to do an interim bill to keep the government open past the 11th of december sunday the majority leader this morning that he wants to get all of his members out of washington by the 11th of december so they can go home in quarantine in recording team to come back to washington to start the new congress on the third of january, there's a lot of moving parts i talked to one democratic sources money with the idea of trying to do an interim bill, that was adding drama to the situation. neil: thank you very much for that, they touched on the idea of stimulus and whether we can get that done. i did chance to speak with new hampshire democratic senator who says the fact that republicans and democrats are on board, the same plan in each side has problems with it but it's better than nothing is a good sign, not a bad side.
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certainly a good deal of bipartisan support for this, the price tag is lower than some of your fellow democrats want, it is more than some of your fellow republicans want which means maybe you're onto something but where do you think this thing goes? >> this is about a group of democrats and republicans in both the senate and the house coming together and have an hour discussion over the last couple of weeks about where they're willing to go and what needs to be done. neil: her basic point, something is better than nothing at $908 billion, less than the $2.4 trillion that nancy pelosi was in still looking at, significantly above the half trillion dollar package that mitch mcconnell put forward a few weeks ago, he is not a fan of this particular plan but anything and everything can
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happen in these days, let's get the opinion of the republican strategist, the democratic strategist, what do you make of what the senator was saying, it is not perfect, there's a lot of things i don't like about it in republican colleagues feel the same way but it beats doing nothing right now. what do you think. >> i think it's really encouraging that you have members of both parties in the house and senate coming together to talk about making these tough decisions, the fact of the matter is ever going to get anything done it's going to have to be bipartisan the republican-controlled senate, democratically controlled house, the center that came up with this deal, what is they did is admirable, they did not include the leadership of both sides but there has been paper that's been passed back and forth between leadership that has been on lockdown, the fact that there has not been a lot of leaks indicate that there is good effort to work across the aisle but i think the members on both sides came up with good ideas and we gotta move forward now that mcconnell made a political
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allocation postelection that he can put something out there and the members are going to have to talk about how to get something done in oakley they can and unfortunately what might be most the possible scenario moving forward is tacking something on to this bill that get at your most low hanging fruit, ppp, unemployment insurance, i think it's really encouraging to see these members come together. neil: one of the things that surprised me, the hundreds of billions of dollars that we haven't spent yet, part of that is going to be rolled back into the paycheck protection program and some of the others, the fact of the matter is do we need if there was an urgency for more dough and we have hundreds of billions in doing nothing, then maybe were watching a bit too much, what do you think? >> i think the fact of the matter is were doing a lot of
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talking and not a lot of doing, your main street in a state of despair, you multiple people facing eviction, 64 million americans facing potential eviction, the notion that we can get together to pass the support that people need in the urgent state of affairs has been baffling, in my estimation it's a national disgrace when you compare the fact that we just had thanksgiving, it was reported by the farm bureau, the cheapest thanksgiving meal we have had just before inflation over 35 years and we have a record number of people who are dealing with hunger, food insufficiency, 25 million people by all estimate, we have to find a way to get cash to mainstreet because people are struggling your businesses that are closing, 800 businesses a day by some estimate and the notion of where should the money come from and who should do what and who's
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responsible for what bill at this point is embarrassing. neil: we will see what happens, i apologize for the nature of all of this, a lot of break under breaking news coming out, thank you very much. it's a sign that there could be and will be a new sheriff in town as president-elect joe biden waits to be inaugurated on the 20th of january, a lot of companies are trying to warm up including the auto industry, very much open to cracking down on auto admissions. ♪
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effort to make nice with the new guy taking over next month including auto industry, very much open to admission re-strengths, that was snuffed away under this administration, that is not the only industry to do so let's go to lauren simonetti taking a look at those who are preparing for the new sheriff in town. >> you have me cracking up, maybe it's sucking up to the new boss but maybe it's an acceptance that the future is electric, there is a group that represents a major automakers and says we will work with biden a administration to cutter emissions. some carmakers have been critical of california going on their own setting their own rules and now collectively they are looking for an industry standard, what would the biden plan include reinstating obama level two economy standards and
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promising billions of dollars to expand infrastructure and given sentence for the purchase of electric vehicles, if you look at the leadership of the carmakers, this might prove a point that the future is electric, tesla is number one but nio at 62 billion-dollar market cap is right in line with general motors, another eye-popping number, $27.7 billion, that is the price tag of a tech deal which is paying for the chat apps lack which they can compete with microsoft and the ceo of salesforce mark is saying that the future of work is beyond work from home is work from anywhere and microsoft on the teams platform has 115 million daily active users and that's one of the reasons why the price tag is so high it reflects the competition and that's why salesforce is the worst performer not only on the dow but the s&p 500 today down more than 8%. one more story, remember gioia
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the food company vizio supported president trump and a lot of backlash on social media for that. now he is touting the strength of his business. listen. >> were an essential business, we are blessed to be able to stay open our employees have stayed open courageously and safely we have operated safely but i feel for all those people in the working class that cannot work, we in texas we expanded our facilities, we put $80 million into warehousing equipment to be able to double our production because are sales demand is through the roof. >> goya sells to the masses. he says the masses have been put out of work by the pandemic. that is the story there, he was on "mornings with maria" this morning. neil: thank you very much for that, lauren simonetti following all of that, the president has
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neil: even republicans are getting nervous that president trump is holding off signing off on a defense bill that is necessary right now but he is threatening to veto the major because of the existing law that protects social media companies so-called 230 provision that is healed them from lawsuits on the like. the sec commissioner, when he
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makes of this, how bad this fight can be, thank you very much for taking the time, what do you make of this and attaching it to a defense bill that the president will not sign unless the law is gone? >> i want to express my things and appreciation to fcc chairman he announces weikel departing the agency this month, i'm a little biased but i think he'll leave behind a legacy that is hard to match, he was a courageous leader, effective leader and i think go down as one of the most consequential fcc chairs. neil: on that, i want to be clear the president-elect biden would choose his successor and that would likely be a democrat so it would change the complexion of the fcc. >> the good news the senate commerce committee voted favorably on nathan signing ten
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who is been nominated to be a replacement republican commissioner of the fcc, his nomination moves to the senate floor in time is tight with the remaining time left in the calendar but i think would be fallible to get them across the finish line and would be billions of dollars of economic damage that i think a democrat fcc would look to gm through from day one in january or february. neil: i'm very sorry i lead you astray, i want to get your take on the concern that the president has that section 230 remains even if he has to veto or the defense measure to get it out of there, he'll push it to that, what do you think? >> i don't have a view on the procedural vehicle, for congress and the white house on negotiations over that but i'll say this president trump is exactly right, he is spotted
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early on before a lot of republicans the critical importance of a course correction on section 230 we saw this on the run up to the election, big tech has a far left agenda and willing to use their moderation on these websites and apply in a way to take action against conservative ideas, it is time for all republicans to stand up and push for reform of 230, there's a first amendment right and they can have whatever viewpoint that they want but i'm not sure we said subsidize that with the special protections in section 230. neil: i'm wondering beyond the content that they push or don't push it depends on what you call conservative, liberal, republican or democrat, i get that. but also democrats have promised to really go after the big tech giants on issues that go way beyond the content, they police the content to whether affable and google has gotten too big, do you think that debate beginning with a new
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administration? >> i am very concerned about the massive accumulation of power that big tech has and i think you will see pushback in a bipartisan form. if you look at the biden a administration, biden has said he believes we should revoke section 230 but i'm concerned about the personnel decisions that are being made or floated, a lot of entities that people may be moving into this upcoming administration have deep ties in silicon valley, locke worked in the biden obama administration and oversaw the concentration of power in silicon valley and cashed out to work in silicon valley and their now coming back. there is a great movie jaws that has a line that they will need a bigger vote and biden might need a bigger revolving door given what were seen already. neil: i wonder, say what you will, your size of huge employers were american success stories, there is a fear building that the detention to break them up, rein them in will
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only hurt our economy and only hurt our markets, what do you think of that? >> there is valuable point i'm not a big tech breakup person but there's a balance that can be struck here, there is an imbalance with respect to the power of the big tech wheels and the lack of meaningful oversight, i think light touch is the approach but i think that means more scrutiny from the trade commission, the fcc taking steps onto 30 in antitrust authorities, i think there is a balance we can strike we just haven't had a quite right so far. >> you mentioned this leaving, this happens with the new administration coming in, leaving on the 20th of january just as joe biden has been sworn in as president, how will the fcc change, what will you think or what are your concerns. >> i think the top of the agenda for democrat run fcc will turn
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to net neutrality regulation, that is socialism in sheep's clothing, it comes with price control, it comes with private sector competition displaced by the heavy hand of government regulation, i think that would be a disaster, particularly could covid-19, we need to get more americans connected and incentivize the connection to break the divide and returning the obama biden era net neutrality approach would be a wrong move, i'm concerned about our approach with respect to china, chairman high in the fcc has taken a rightfully tough line when it comes to entities with communist china, there is a report prepared for the biden team that says they should do a reset on communist china and what they mean is not block entities like huawei in cte from connecting to our network, that will be a monumental mistake if there's any backsliding with respect to china, i think democrats would regret that more
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than the russian reset that they tried a few years ago. neil: very quickly, you mentioned private concerns going too far in the strong arm of the government of the democratic majority re-imposes those, how did the private concerns effectively nail their own fate by going too far whether on content, or putting their way into other businesses that this is what they built for themselves. >> the editorial board made exactly this point which is the deep and broad biased that big tech has when you have a lot of corporations that embrace far left ideas the wall street journal said the same company should not be surprised if republicans don't spend an ounce of their political capital defending them, we still gotta make the right calls, stick with our principles. neil: commissioner best of luck
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to you, you will stay on, he is leaving but it'll be a different fcc come next january. in the meantime keeping an eye on the migration from the golden state hewlett-packard the latest company to say san jose is nice but houston financially is nicer, a lot nicer, they are moving, susan li on all of that. >> one of the companies that gave silicon valley its name is leaving for texas, hewlett-packard enterprises we look to the future, the business needs an opportunity for cost savings a preferences above the future, we have made the decision to relocate hp's headquarters to the new campus under construction in spring texas which is outside of houston, it's been a tough year for hp, it's still losing money, the ways to save money on state taxes and cheaper real estate
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probably pretty enticing, no layout, they will add several hundred non-technical jobs to the new texas campus, the move will not happen until the year 2022, you see how attractive the lone star state is sensors no income taxes with the top california marginal rate is over 13%, sales taxes higher in california but property taxes were slightly lower in texas but you had to figure in the gas tax, california had one, texas does not. hpe is the latest company to move to texas, we have tesla to build the next giga factory, charles schwab, at&t, pda of america even podcast star joe rogan says he is headed to texas as well. alan pierce said he's moving out of silicon valley, not to texas but denver instead and you see the trend out of the high cost states inexpensive big cities, that is also creating a budget shortfall like places like san francisco, they saw a 43%
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decline in a sales tax revenue only from april to june, you can imagine if this accelerates, that will be a problem. neil: you will run out of companies eventually. susan li thank you very much, susan li following all the developments in the fox news room. in the meantime we have big changes in this country when it comes to dealing with the virus, also dealing with the politics and right now a president dealing with the attorney general tells them it's over. how do you think that went down. after this. look, this isn't my first rodeo and let me tell you something, i wouldn't be here if i thought reverse mortgages
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neil: i wonder how their first meeting went after attorney general bill barr had said he can find no evidence widespread abuse and overall election that
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it would've influenced the final outcome of the election that joe biden essentially one, he was at the white house after that, we have not heard the president tweet out but i want to get the wall street journal executive washington editor's opinion. hell have no theory like the trompe l'oeil list burnt and angry over this, and of course one of the team of lawyers saying they have no idea what got into bill barr and what can explain that view, where is this going. >> i think it's going toward the conclusion of the free logical for some weeks now, it's going toward a certification of the election for joe biden, an electoral college that will vote for joe biden and make him the next president, president who will not accept that will maintain as he leaves office that there was fraud and he will not find support from that from his own attorney general but i
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suspect the president knew that he be complaining about the justice department not joining vigorously an investigation of election fraud before yesterday and attorney general barr try to put a period at the end of the sentence yesterday. he said no irregularities and no cases of fraud, he said what election experts have been saying all along before, during and after the election, it's hard to have fraud so systemic that it would change the outcome of a national election, that's what the attorney general said. neil: i been looking at the legal issues that the president will continue fighting even though that is lost in a dozen of specific cases, still trails by 150,000 votes in michigan and still trails in pitt savanna, more than 20000 in wisconsin, were up to a failed headcount and joi georgia and the dominios meant to prove that it was all one way for joe biden, kinda shows a similar count, i'm just
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wondering where this is going, is it over? >> i do think it's over in terms of the outcome, one of the flaws in the argument the president has been making and his allies have been making, democratic run big cities turn the tide for joe biden but honestly what happened the president lost in the suburbs in the place that you mentioned more than the cities, his take of the vote in philadelphia for example or detroit was not much different than 2016, he got hammered in the suburbs and the reality is other republicans did better in some of those places, the president did a little less well, it's close races in all of the states but that is the reality of it and i think republicans are probably going to pivot other than the president and a few people will probably pivot when the electoral college votes on the
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15th and they say now that's over them something they have not been prepared to say before and that's when i think the transition wholly and truly begins. >> we are told that the president depending on the 14th at the electoral college does confirm which we expect it will, as joe biden the next president. i would not call it cease-and-desist but the fight will be over and the president will be angry, not conceived graciously necessarily and essentially one by fraud, but that he might counter program if you will against joe biden's inauguration with an announcement that he will run in 2024, how do you get affect the republican field looking for years out? >> i think it's a possibility i don't know if that's going to happen i think that that it might take shape going into 2024, it's pretty clear, it's an attempt to free them in place, that tom cotton or marco rubio, whoever might be on that list,
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nikki haley, they all have a problem but the extent of the problem depends on how much president trump as private citizen try can continue to do what is done so well the last five years which is dominate the national conversation, control the debate, become the subject of attention and that depends on what people in your business in mind as and frankly how much attention does he get and is it possible he fades from the scene more than he realizes, i think what is he going on now is attempt to make sure there is a line of argument after the inauguration of 2021 is that the biden presidency is not legitimate, i'm going to come back to reclaim the legitimacy of the presidency for the republican party, is not going to be an argument that could dominate the scene the way president trump has dominated the argument for the last four years or the five years since he started to run, that is an open question and i don't think anybody knows the answer including the president.
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explain them. >> i think it's a great question and a big part of our difference, we focus heavily on pain and recovery, a big misperception about tv 12 word to traditional fitness company we have an extra ordinary team of coaches who many which are phd's in physical therapy and training and really work on a one and one environment to help people recover better and solve pain issues, we operate at the intersection of fitness and healthcare services and that regard. neil: today, authorities where you are, do they look at you differently, this is not a traditional jim how do you really assure them when it comes to crowd control and cleanup equipment. >> it's been a challenge going back to early on in march we
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closed our facilities for a period of time, we opened later in the spring with a very, very extensive safety protocol in place and masks proven to be a big our facilities with thousands and thousands of people be in through our facilities and also the regulations in the therapy world are state-by-state and some states including massachusetts, we are licensed physical therapy facilities, we will operate under those rules and that's enabled us to be open as well and continue to serve people and keep them out of pain. neil: you do a lot of good stuff and you look at the whole equation when it comes to being healthy in the body and the mind, all of that, but a lot of your success is contingent on tom brady success and i think he is 78 or 80080 years old but do
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you ever worry that it's been a rough year, then he's doing quite well, i'm not minimizing that, but we all get old and it's going to happen to him eventually. neil: i think it's a really important to share and something i thought about, number of years ago and i think about the reality, the majority of the people that we help, our clients and customers are everyday people like you and me, were very fortunate to have cofounder tom who lives as an extreme example, what you're able to do in your ability to push the limits if you take proper care of yourself and very fortunate to have them on the field continuing to play at a high level but we have thousands and thousands of clients who have helped and whether it is tom brady or crossfit champions or
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average people like you and me or high school and college athletes looking to get back on the field after a knee injury and getting back to health and perform even better, we think that carries us and i believe very strongly after a 20 year plus career that thomas had performing at this level, his legacy even when he does choose to hang up his jersey and serve for an example is all of us, as to what making the right choices can be and that's what it's about making those choices. neil: john burns, thank you very much, dodging the lockdown. coming up next. ♪
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neil: chuck grassley tomorrow. 87 years young. he survived covid. his first interview since coming back. looking forward to that tomorrow. david asman now. david: remarkable man, is he not. 87, surviving covid with no problems at all. thank you my friend. good afternoon, i'm david asman in for charles payne. this is making money. breaking right now, you can't keep the market down. s&p back in record territory paring losses after all important jobs report came in way below estimates overshadowing positive vaccine news. seas salesforce.com sinking after acquiring slack for $28 billion. the dow, that is

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