tv Lou Dobbs Tonight FOX Business December 2, 2020 7:00pm-8:00pm EST
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off. thank you for joining us. congratulations on the election. thank you for your service. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. gerry: i'm gerry baker in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" on fox business. have a really good evening. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the battle for the white house is now a full-fledged struggle for the survival of this constitutional republic. there are less than two weeks to go before the electoral college is set to cast their votes for either president trump or joe biden. president trump's legal team have made significant advances in six battleground states, and american patriots this those states are coming -- in those states are coming forward with allegation after allegation of election abuse, irregularities, anomalies, outright fraud and raw intimidation. earlier today president trump
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posted a message on social media stating that the heart of this democracy, our constitutional guarantee of secret ballots, is under a coordinated assault and siege. >> within days after the election are, we witnessed an orchestrated effort to anoint the winner even while many key states were still being counted. the constitutional process must be allowed to continue. we are going to defend the honesty of the vote by insuring that every legal ballot is counted and that no illegal ballot is counted. this is not just with about honoring the votes of 74 million americans who voted for me, it's about insuring that americans can have faith in this election and in all future elections. lou: we're joined this evening by some of this country's great americans who are fighting for
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president trump, fighting for a free and fair election. one of them is dr. linda lee tarver. she's seen how the radical dems have worked to steal this election in the state the of michigan, how they've worked to steal elections over the past 25 years in her home state. also with us, jesse morgan. he's the truck driver who's come forward, a whistleblower, who's made alarming accusations about hundreds of thousands of ballots being transported from new york to pennsylvania. he'll join us with his eyewitness account. and an attorney who represents congressman mike kelly is also with us, his fight for election integrity in pennsylvania charging that mail-in balloting, mail-in voting is simply unconstitutional. also with us this evening, investigative journalist sara carter. breaking developments in the
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challenge to pennsylvania's election results. senator ted cruz has now thrown husband support behind the -- his support behind the effort to get the supreme court to hear, urgently, an appeal in the dismissal of a republican-led challenge against pennsylvania's mail-in system. and joining us tonight, the attorney who is representing the congressman and, in fact, the republic. that lawsuit was brought forward by congressman kelly and congressional candidate sean parnell, and our first guest is the attorney representing those two men leading the charge to throw out pennsylvania's mail-in ballots. joining us is greg tufel. good to have you with us on the broadcast. i i know you've got to be gratified that senator cruz is supporting you as are millions and millions of americans in this. give us your reading, your judgment about whether the supreme court will hear your
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suit and whether or not it will come, well, expeditiously. >> so we do feel like we have a better than average shot at getting the supreme court's attention. there's a lot of competition for their attention, of course, and it's always a difficult process to get the supreme court to take up your case. so we don't want to get too cocky, but we do think we have a much stronger case for getting their attention than the typical one, and we're very appreciate ty of the -- appreciative of the support of senator cruz and really all the folks around the country that have expressed their support. lou: the straight forward drive of your lawsuit is that mail-in balloting is, period, unconstitutional. and as the president said in his message, election day has become election days, weeks and months. on its faces face it is, it mako
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sense whatsoever. but then again, now there's the law and the constitution. >> yeah. in some states mail-in balloting is legal, but in pennsylvania the constitution requires it either in person or meeting the very particular criteria for absentee balloting. to open it up to mail-in balloting with no excuse for any reason at all, any reason or no reason, requires a constitutional amendment. they didn't bother with a constitutional amendment, and when they passed what's called act 77, the law that instituted no-excuse mail-in balloting in pennsylvania, they immediately disenfranchised every voter in pennsylvania by refusing to let them vote on whether we were going to switch to no-excuse mail-in balloting. lou: greg teufel will be with us later in this broadcast. we'll be taking up the issue in some detail. greg, thank you very much. well, two other attorneys supporting president trump's fight for a free and fair election holding a rally today in georgia, a raucous rally are.
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attorney sidney powell and lynn wood telling president trump not to ever, ever concede, never give up the fight. lynn wood also demanding to know why republican leaders have been absent in the president's efforts for election integrity. well, the justice is -- justice department is cleaning up after attorney general william barr just a day after he said the department had yet to see any fraud on a scale that would affect the outcome of the election. now a doj spokesperson is saying there is no conclusion of their investigation into election fraud and that it is continuing its investigation into what it calls all specific and credible allegations. i would only say to the attorney general, watch this broadcast, review what we've reported here over the last four weeks, take a look at what is said on this broadcast tonight, and you will
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change your statement if there is any honesty the remaining whatsoever in the department of justice. meanwhile, i wayward fbi director christopher wrong wray is expected to keep husband job is if joe biden is installed as president. that must bring warmth to the hearts of millions who voted for joe biden. it shouldn't but it probably does. wray is the same man who insured that this country would have secure elections before the election, of course, occurred. president trump also fighting the tech titans of silicon valley today. the president said it straightforwardly, that he will veto a new defense authorization act unless section 230 is terminated. in a tweet the president said this, quote: for purposes of national security, section 230 must immediately be terminated. section 230 is the liability shield that exists for no one
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other than technology and social media companies like facebook and twitter and amazon and google. in order to have those protections, social media sites must act as a neutral platform. that is twitter, facebook, google, others doing no such thing. in fact, doing the opposite, blacklisting and censoring conservative voices. censoring even the president of the united states with impunity, also hiding disparaging news about democrats blocking users from seeing information about voter fraud all across the country. president trump's call for immediate termination of 230 is, in my opinion, the only way this country can be saved from the technology and social media oligarchs and the left that they control. but weak-kneed rinos in congress have already begun to pitch moderation and compromise.
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listen. >> what we're trying to do is look at section 230 and to see if it needs to be modified or changed. >> i'm more skeptical than a lot of my colleagues i think on both sides of the aisle about whether or not there's a regulatory fix that will make it better instead of worse. >> section 230, in my view, has to be to be rewritten. so that's the purpose of this hearing. >> mr. zuckerberg and mr. dorsey, thank you both for being here with us virtually and for your commitment to constantly improving the way your platforms are serving people across the country. lou: that is simply pathetic. and senator mike lee talking about moderation. these are rinos, they are absolutely irresponsible mouthpieces for those tech titans who are censoring the president of the united states, killing the voices of
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conservatives across the country. you may be wondering why we don't bring many senators on this broadcast are often. in fact, it's rare that we do. and it's because, mostly, they have nothing good to say, nothing compelling. they also seemingly never get anything done. so the next question we would ask is, why both? and that should -- i why bother? and that should bother everyone in this country. another of recently-elected ri or no senators are pushing for immigration reform. remember amnesty? well, here you go. senators thom tillis, john cornyn, susan collins joining senator marco rubio, congressman will herd and mario diaz-balart are ready to talk about an amnesty deal for illegal immigrants, and they'll be doing so at a super event to be i
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attended by radical dems as well as corporate america, of course, and its pro-ams inty, open borders lobby. the event will be held tomorrow by the american immigrant business coalition. by the way, there is no coalition that exists outside business. business is driving all of this. also participating, of course, the evil u.s. chamber of commerce which works against american workers and its national interest every day of its existence, the united farm workers of america and the united we dream federation. those congressional rinos i mentioned will be working alongside the chamber of commerce which has no interest in fighting for american workers ever. in fact, they fight against american workers. the chamber's attorney successfully lobbied bush-appointed judge jeffrey white to strike down president trump's restrictions against h-1b visa workers. this at a time when millions of
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americans are still out of work because of the china virus pandemic. and what do they want? they want more foreign, cheap labor. it's that straightforward. the chamber of commerce says the ruling has many companies, quote: breathing a huge sigh of are e leaf. don't you feel better? don't we all? up next, a retoured michigan state department worker explains how democrat-run cities get away with widespread electoral fraud. >> if you follow the law in the urban democratic-controlled areas, then we would not be here today. i certainly wouldn't be here. but in 25 years that i've been monitoring elections working with the secretary of state, the last 8 doing election integrity, it's been a hot mess in these same democrat-controlled areas. we don't need any more laws, we need to enforce the laws, and we
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need to open up the doggone ballot boxes. lou: her name is dr. linda lee tarver, and you don't want to miss a single word of what she will say here next. stay with us, we'll be right back after this quick break. ♪ ♪ want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. we try to soothe it with this. cool it with this. and relieve it with this. but new preparation h soothing relief is the 21st century way to do all three.
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lou: break break news now -- breakins now, president trump telling americans that he will be fighting for the presidential election in key battleground statements. here he is. >> our country cannot live with this kind of an election. we could say let's go on to the next one. but with, no, we have to look also at our past. we can't let this happen. maybe you'll have a revote, but i don't think that's appropriate when those votes are corrupt, when they're irregular, when they get caught, they're terminated and i very oozily win in all states -- easily win in all states, i very easily win these swing states. lou: nothing easy about this election so far. president trump's attorney, rudy giuliani, will testify about electoral fraud tonight before
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state lawmakers in michigan. giuliani's testimony before the michigan house oversight committee follows the dozens of firsthand witnesses who appeared yesterday before michigan's senate oversight committee. one of those witnesses is with us this evening. we're joined by dr. linda lee tarver, former director of community affairs and election integrity liaison at the michigan secretary of state's office. dr. tarver is also an advisory board member on the black voices for trump coalition. doctor, i want to first say thank you for being here and say to you straightforwardly you were a brilliant, compelling witness yesterday, and i just salute you as do millions of americans who have both read and seen your testimony. it is, it was absolutely amazing, stunning. i want to -- >> thank you. lou: -- start with, if i may --
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thank you. i want to start with your statement about the fraud, election fraud in michigan, that this is not the first year that you witnessed it, but this is the first year that it's affected 74 million americans, certainly. your thoughts about whether it's reparable in the astronaut of michigan -- state of michigan, first of all. >> absolutely, especially in our urban areas. it has been rampant for years, decades, and it has only empowered those who have not seen any reper or cushions or consequences -- repercussions or consequences as a result. we have seen it. there is touchpoints in our system that if the law is followed would unsure some fort -- insure some form of integrity. but in cities like detroit, flint and pontiac, which i referenced, it is almost tossed out the door.
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it is a free-for-all, if you would, on how you can manufacture ballots, how you can assert 400,000 ballots. i made a misstatement yesterday with about 71% of detroit could not be recounted. it is actually 71% of the absentee voter precincts cannot be recounted. those are the ones that are in question. is so so it was difficult to insert 400,000 into a precinct, walking into one precinct. but you certainly can find the fraud in absentee balloting, and that is where 71% cannot be recounted. and we want to open the ballot boxes. lou: why can't 71% of the ballots that are in question be recounted, are e examined? re-examined? >> well, they said it's because of clerical errors, that if the precinct does not balance, if you have, if you're off a couple hundred or 24 or 4 as the
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secretary of state of michigan has indicated, it is not -- they should be able to balance their precinct. if you don't is have voters before you in the absentee voting, you should be able to balance that precinct but for the fact that you may have ballot stuffing going on, you may have overvotes going on, you may have manufactured people. they've changed some of the birth dates to the 1900s, and that is testified yesterday. that was going on. and because they did not respect the law with respect to poll challengers, the republican poll challengers, we don't have eyes on what was going on, and we need to be able to then go in and find out what's in those ballots. some of those ballot boxes could contain 900 -- the vote tally was 900, but in reality it was
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300 ballots in the box. we need to see the box. open the boxes. lou: open the boxes. and as anyone listening to your -- is anyone listening to your cry on this? because the attorney general of the united states isn't, the department of justice isn't, the fbi isn't. this is fraud, this is a politically corrupt justice department in washington, d.c., a politically corrupt fbi, and i don't know whether he's a dullard, a fool or a liar, but the attorney general of this country is not enforcing the law. and i don't know what he thinks he's presiding over, but it will not, i guarantee william barr this, it will not be a quiet surrender of this constitutional republic. not in michigan, not anywhere in this country. >> hear hear. and, you know, this is not the only person, only entity that
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can open those ballots. there's no appetite for the attorney general or the secretary of state who are all democrats here in michigan to truly open those ballots and to prove us wrong. prove us wrong. we know that dead people voted in michigan. we know there are people who are nonexistent. we don't know if they're martians or where their origins are from, but we know that there are people who are made up. those things, we know for sure. and we know that people are voting at addresses that do not exist in detroit. and so we know these things, we've got statisticians. we need to open up the ballot boxes. there are various people who have the ability to do that, and we need to prove us wrong. but we know we're right because we'll find a breach in what we have. when they're talking about running a recount, you're only talking about a recount of 29% of the absentee ballots. we need to recount and do a examination of forensic audit of
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all of the ballots. what is in the box, what are you hiding and why can't the american people -- especially the people of michigan -- need to know what's in the ballot boxes. and we need that integrity. we're persuading at this point our lawmakers. after yesterday's testimony, our lawmakers understand better the processes and what is happening and what is not happening x. i'm hoping that i can contribute to that. and i hope that my testimony contributed to their understanding of why in the urban areas especially we are missing our opportunity to strengthen our integrity of our vote. lou: well, i'm going to urge tonight, if you do not mind, i'm going to urge the attorney general, the fbi and the department of justice to contact you. because if they have not awakened to what is happening in the state of michigan after watching that hearing -- and i
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want to commend the senate oversight committee for that hearing. it was spell binding. your testimony was absolutely on point. you were educating me and lots of others as you spoke. we are deeply appreciative. dr. linda lee tarver, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we appreciate it. i hope you'll come back soon. we'd like to hear your thoughts. share your comments. follow me on twitter @loudobbs like me on facebook, follow me on instagram and parler at lou dobbs tonight. @loudobbstonight. whistleblowers stepping forward all across the country, and they are charging voter fraud. here's jesse morgan. he drove completed mail ballots across three state lines. >> as things became clearer, i
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got to thinking and wonder ored why i was driving complete ballots from new york to pennsylvania. i didn't know, i didn't know why, so i decided to speak up. ♪ lou: and speak up, he has. we'll be talking with jesse morgan here right after these quick with messages. please stay with us. [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] ♪ [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] ♪ uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.
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♪ ♪ >> the mail-in voting scam is the latest part of their four-year effort to overturn the results of the 2016 election. and it's been like living in hell. our opponents have proven many times, again and again, that they will say and do anything to get back into power. the corrupt forces who are registering dead voters and stuffing ballot boxes are the
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same people who have perpetrated one phony and fraudulent hoax after another. lou: well, hoax is a nice word for what has been the effort of the radical dems in this country, the deep state to overthrow the president of the united states. and that's the president making damning accusations of voter fraud. nearly 200,000 completed mail-in ballots were smuggled from new before they inexplicably disappeared. those are the charges of jesse morgan, a truck driver. he's a subcontractor working for the u.s. postal service, and he joins us here tonight. jesse mo began, who has -- morgan, who has signed a sworn affidavit charging that those hundreds of thousands of ballots were taken across state lines. jesse, i want to say, first of all, i commend your courage for
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standing up and speaking truth. i know that it's got to be tremendously difficult for you, anded i add hire your trent in so -- admire your strength in so doing and your concern for your fellow citizens who depend on an electoral process of integrity. good to have you on the broadcast. i want to start, if i may, with how it happened that you were picking up these boxes filled with ballots. >> how did it happen? is that what you asked, lou? lou: yes, sir. >> all right. first, i just want to say thanks for having me on your show. greatly appreciate it. how it all happened was that just one day i went in, i -- normal process, i walked up, gave my slip to the expediter. she was going to go cut off the seal, and as this is doing so --
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as she was doing so, she made the comment that i'm going to be taking mail-in ballots back. and i was like, oh, that's pretty cool. i'm like, you know, cool. and went back and she made the comment again about taking the mail-in ballots back. and i said, okay. i went to my trailer, watched them unload, and then they brought up the gaylords, and they had the ballots in it. and i watched them be loaded onto the trailer. lou: those are boxes of, those are boxes containing what turned out to be ballots, gaylords. >> yeah. the gaw lords and then inside each gaylord was totes, and they were stacked on top of each other, and each tote had envelopes which were the ballots. and as they were bringing them in, some of the ballots kind of
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came out of how they had them stacked, can and you could see them laid on top. i wasn't looking for addresses. be honest, i thought i was doing something to help out the presidential election, you know? that's how it came across. i'm like, oh, sweet, this is, this is awesome, you know? like, cool. lou: absolutely. >> doing something to-out here, you know? -- to help out here, you know? lou: well, you are helping out, probably in ways in which a lot of people didn't ever, never expected. the boxes, you saw that they were ballots. did you see all of the boxes and their contents? did you see that they were, in fact, filled out? >> yes. yes, sir. i saw them all loaded, i saw -- now, look, this is how it is. it's, like, i couldn't see every single ballot, okay? i wasn't on really paying attention -- lou: right. >> what i saw, so how they had
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'em in the totes, okay? and then as the pallets were being bumped around, the don'ts were being bump -- toteses were being bumped around, some of them were laying on top. now, i probably seen, say, five or six in the one pallet, then three pallets lauter there might have been twenty that i saw, then ten pallets down, there's twenty m you know, all the way up until they put the last box in. lou: and -- >> if you get what i'm saying. lou: -- at this point -- i do get what you're saying, and i'm sitting here thinking about the time we've got here. i'm going to ask you, if you would, to stay with us through this commercial break as we continue your journey from new york to pennsylvania and what happened to that trailer load of ballots.
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can you do that, jesse? >> absolutely, sir. lou: appreciate it. we'll be right back with jesse and his story and more on the legal advances for the president's legal team. we'll be right back. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa we're made for. ithe first full prescriptionis pstrength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel... available over the counter. voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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box withs from new york -- boxes from new york to pennsylvania. jesse, i want to turn tout route that you took -- to the route that you took, and if we could put up that map going from bethpage, new york, to harrisburg, pennsylvania, which was to be your destination. but when you got to harrisburg, they wouldn't check you in, they wouldn't give you a slip for delivery, and instead they directed you to lancaster, pennsylvania. that correct? >> yes, sir, that is correct. it was absolutely -- i've been hauling mail now for about 16 months, and 16 months i have never, never had this happen to me before. i was made to wait in the yard, and i sat there and i waited roughly, like, about six hours. until i went in and i was, like, what's going on here, guys? like, what's the hold up, you know? i'm getting, i was pretty upset.
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my brother just moved up from texas, and i wanted to go hang out with him -- lou: right. >> finally, they couldn't give me an answer, and finally, like, a transportation supervisor came down and told me to basically leave and take the load to lancaster which never, never, i've never talked to that man, never talked to a transportation supervisor the whole time i've been doing this. i've strictly dealt with the expediters. they're the ones that i would see when i came in, they're the ones i checked in, the ones i checked out with. and he told me to leave and go to lancaster. lou: now, this is the night of the 21st of october, two weeks before the election -- >> yes, sir. lou: -- you're carrying 24 boxes -- >> yes. lou: -- tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of completed ballots, by all appearances. you get to, now, lancaster.
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did you ever get the paperwork, the proper paperwork for running that delivery? >> no. and that's the thing is that, once again, i never leave a place without paperwork. and the man refused to give me this paperwork. he refused to give me the slips. and his reasoning was i'm not getting unloaded there. and i said, well, let me get a late slip at least so so that way people know that i've been here. he refused to give me that too. lou: so i've got to ask you this, two weeks, you've stepped forward. were you treated differently? did anything change as a subcontractor to the u.s. postal service? i want to know if you've been threatened as well. >> there's -- let's just say this, lou, that there's been a lot of things that have happened to me leading up to yesterday since i've come out. there's a lot of things that we
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aren't talking about that i've been told to kind of be quiet on just for -- lou: yes, sir. >> -- investigation. lou: right. well, you have excellent legal counsel, and i want to say again to you with, jesse, thank you so much. >> can i say one thing? lou: what you've done is very brave. yes, sir, you may. >> i want to e say if there's anyone else out there there that's been in the same shoes that i have, don't be afraid to come out. they're just intimidating you. don't be scared to come out. and i will say, lou, going through this whole experience, i will say that this whole system is really corrupt. it is really corrupt. and i'll put that right out there. and i challenge, i challenge everyone -- law enforcement, the congressmen -- i challenge people to do something different, do something different for your country. stand up for your country. lou: thank you very much. appreciate it. >> you're welcome, lou.
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you have a good night. lou: patriot. you too. thank you. well, rejoining us this evening is greg teufel, he is the attorney representing mike kelly and sean parnell in their effort to advance their case with the u.s. supreme court, arguing that the mail-in ballots in pennsylvania are unconstitutional. you've just heard jesse morgan. your reaction, greg. >> sounds scandalous. i hope they get to the bottom of it and get evidence of what occurred. lou: yet we can't get the u.s. attorney general to acknowledge that it's happened. it's happened all over the country. we can't get the department of justice to investigate or to speak up in a straightforward i way as servants of the american people. we can't get the fbi to investigate. perhaps we're fortunate in that
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given that those agencies and departments seem to be where truth goes to due. let's go to the next step in your case and how soon will we know whether the supreme court will actually stand up against political corruption in this, in obvious political corruption whether it's in the state of pennsylvania or a host of others. >> so there's a few procedural steps happening in the background. today we filed a motion for a stay the, an application for a stay the in the pa supreme court asking them to reinstate the injunction9 that the commonwealth court had entered putting a halt to the certification of the vote for the 2020 election in pa. and the pa supreme court required the other party to respond by 3:30 today, and they did. is so now that court will probably, probably deny that request, is what we would expect and probably do so fairly quickly. after that the we will
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officially file our application for an injust in the u.s. supreme court -- injunction in the u.s. supreme court. that's directed to justice alito. and then my understanding is justice alito has the option to handle that application himself or to turn to the full court to ask for their input. sorry, few light turned off there -- okay -- automatically. anyway, can throw it to the full court. i believe with what happened before in pennsylvania with the three-day extension of the acceptance of ballots, he brought it to the full court to decide whether to grant interim relief, and they voted 4-4 and did not grant interim relief. lou: so chief justice roberts siding with the liberals on the, on the court. and, obviously, the nation is looking toward the supreme court with hope if not faith right now that our government will work in
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this extraordinary, extraordinary crisis. greg teufel, we thank you for being with us, and we thank you for all you're doing. you get the last word here. >> well, we look forward to hearing from the court. we think it's a very important case, and we encourage them to take it. lou: all right. thank you very much, greg. good to have you on the show. look forward to talking to you again soon. thank you. up next, more on the president's fight for a free and fair election. investigative journalist sara carter joins us right after these quick words. stay with us, we'll be right one of the worst things about a cold sore is how it can make you feel. but, when used at the first sign, abreva can get you back to being you in just 2 and a half days.
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♪ ♪ >> the speaker of the house of a certain state said, sir, i expected to lose my seat. and instead because of you and because of that incredible charge and all of those rallies, we had a tremendous victory. and everybody knows it. you were much more popular than me, sir, except i got many more votes than you did. and it's impossible that that happened. there is something wrong. lou: there is a lot wrong. joining us now, sara carter, investigative reporter, fox business contributor.
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sara, good to have you on the broadcast. we've never seen anything like this because there's never been anything like this happen, right? it's great to see you, sara. >> right. great to see you with. lou: go ahead, please. >> i mean, this is very frustrating, very shocking when you think about the number, i mean, it's so great, that the you have real americans who have submitted affidavits under penalty of perjury to tell the truth to the american public when the rest of the media is failing to do so. they don't even want to cover it. i want everyone out there to think about that, that the american public is being disenfranchised because we have real americans who are submitting affidavits, who are telling the truth, and wouldn't with everybody want to investigate this? isn't this something that democrats and republicans, green party members, independents, it doesn't matter who you are, don't you want election integrity? lou: the answer is, no, sara. it should be very clear to everyone. there is no you know, little
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bunny rabbits and daffodils alongside the path. this is a struggle for the soul of this country and the survival of the republic. >> right. lou: and those who don't understand that are putting us in even graver and more imminent danger through their naivete and their refusal to look at what has happened to this president for four years. >> right. lou: they have been trying to, first, block his election, then overthrow him through the investigations of the so-called fbi, and then the special counsel of the justice department and then the impeachment. none of which produced a damn thing but lies, lies and more lies from the party of hate. and here we go again in this fraudulent election. >> that's, that's absolutely true, lou. and americans have to see this. after four years, i blame the media for this. look, the media is no longer, is
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no longer not even just biased, it's an actual activist media, a media that was working to remove president trump from office. because all of those players inside the bureaucracy could have never gotten away with what they got away with if the media didn't let them. and now the media is working to do the same here -- lou: but, sara -- >> why not interview? why not talk to these witnesses? why not look at -- lou: because, sara, but there is an answer to what you're saying, sara, there is an answer why they don't. their corporate masters will not give them any other order than proceed against this president in every way you can. this isn't about just fake news. i've arked with the president about -- argued with the president about his use of the russia hoax. it's not a hoax -- >> right. lou: this was an effort to overthrow his presidency. this is not a hoax election, this is an effort to get rid of this president on the a part of those who are radical dems, deep
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state. oh, yes, the establishment of both political parties, wall street and corporate america. because they line up -- >> absolutely. lou: -- more with china than they do this president, his policies expect national interest. it's that -- and the national interest. it's that straightforward -- >> and it is, and that's why we're seeing -- lou: we can't talk about the fraud. the networks won't even cover these hearings in these state legislatures with all of the witnesses, all of the evidence that's coming forward. you get the last word here. >> no, that's right. no, you're absolutely right, lou. look, this is why we're seeing this push towards this globalist agenda. i mean, we've even seen biden be very up front about this. it's no longer going to be america first, it's going to be globalism first. they've wanted to push president trump out. he was a president for the american people, and the american people have to ask themselves a very simple question. i mean, are they being served by this bureaucracy and the media that basically has sold their
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souls to the washington bureaucrats? and i think that we with know the answer to it now. lou: sara carter, always good to so you. thanks so much for being with us. and a reminder, loudobbsshop.com, your official "hour dobbs tonight "mug. buy it hey! yeah!? i switched to geico and got more! more savings on car insurance!? they helped with homeowners, too! ok! plus motorcycle, boat and rv insurance! geico's got you covered! like a blanket! houston? you seeing this? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. itthe north pole has to and be feeling the heat. up, it's okay santa... let's workflow it.
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