we're up one-half of 1% on the nasdaq composite which is at 12,525. that may actually be and all time intraday high. now, in five seconds we'll hand it over to neil. he has angela marsden, the lady from california on his show. neil, it its yours. neil: thank you, stuart, very, very much. she is a fascinating lady. she is ticked off that the same conditions abide to her restaurant than they did to the movie industry. nasdaq indeed at a record. stuart you pointed out an intraday record at that. we'll monitor that market reaction. the fear of more restrictions to come in new york city. governor cuomo is watching the hospitalization rate soar in new york right now and he is looking at possibility if things don't improve and soon he could shut down indoor dining throughout the new york city metropolitan area.

you can imagine how that will go. will it replay with the story of the pineapple hills saloon and grill owner, angela marsden, who just wanted to know, is there a double standard for my restaurant and for the movie industry? this has become an iconic sign, well statement of our times. take a look. >> everything i own is being taken away from me and they set up a movie company right next to my outdoor patio. tell me that this is dangerous! but right next to me is a slap in my face. that's safe. this is safe? neil: film industry california that stays open. her restaurant, that stays closed. she is ticked and she is here. we'll be talking to her momentarily. we'll talk to the guy who heads the american dream mall, the co-ceo who is looking forward to a busy christmas shopping season but a lot of that depends how

folks and whether folks get out of their homes and actually shop in person in places. they have gotten used to doing it online. what do you think happens now? meanwhile jackie deangelis on these far-flung events sort of cascading together for a down market but something that could turn it around could be stimulus. also could be vaccines. also could be the fda may be giving its nod to its vaccines as soon as this week. jackie. reporter: good afternoon to you, neil. a lot to get to here. let's start with the pressers this morning. mayor de blasio speaking about new york city. as you said governor cuomo talking about new york setting new criterion on indoor dining. listen. >> after five days we have not seen a stabilization in a region's hospital rate we're going to clamp down on indoor dining. reporter: meantime we're watching the fda very closely too because it is meeting this week to potentially give the emergency use authorization to pfizer biontech vaccine.

next week we would see the same kind of meeting for moderna's vaccine. there has been some question why a vaccine manufactured here in the united states would be first approved in the uk? health and human services secretary azar was speaking on "fox & friends" this is morning talking about the fact he is going along with the fda. the fda has to instill confidence in americans that the vaccine is safe to take. that's why it is taking a little bit longer. and yesterday on fox news azar said this. >> within days, chris, we said within 24 hours of fda green lighting with authorization, we'll ship to all the states and territories we work with and within hours they can be vaccinating. reporter: recall, when it comes to the vaccine pfizer said last week there may be some supply chain issues that may impact the additional amount of doses it was expecting to roll out. so we have to watch that closely. meantime here in new york city schools are reopening again

after mayor de blasio closed them and got a ton of pushback. so 850 new york city public schools opened today in the face of the spike in cases that we're watching closely. the closures of course came when the city hit that 3% threshold that mayor de blasio hit but a lot of people said look, you can close other businesses down but you need to keep schools open. so that effort is being made today, neil. neil: all right, jackie, thank you very much. jackie deangelis, with the dow down 10points right now it could turn on a dime. actually quite a few times. maybe a trillion dollars worth of dimes if it turns out the republicans and democrats can agree to a bipartisan package at least $908 billion in total costs. don't dismiss this, or for example, the calendar and timeline that is running against them doing so. there is growing talk that they can cobble that together alongwith a separate measure to prevent the government from shutting down. now it seems like a herculean

task and it might still be but chad pergram has been following it very closely, joins us from capitol hill. where do they stand on both of these measures? reporter: well it's going to take probably until the middle of next week to get everything done and here's why. they don't have agreement yet on the government funding bill and they certainly don't have agreement on the overall coronavirus stimulus package that will probably take another week to jell. so what they're going to do later this week is probably put together an interim spending bill to keep the government open, the government funding deadline is this friday night 11:59:59 p.m. on december 11th that would be a stop gap. they try to marry these two bills together sometime next week if they get an agreement, i say it again if they get an agreement on the coronavirus part. there is concern about coronavirus protection mainly from bill cassidy, a republican from louisiana. >> there has to be some liability protection.

it has to be something, something we negotiate that is acceptable to both. frankly one of the sticking points right now. reporter: republicans long pushed liability protections. some democrats see that as a poison pill. disputes for state and local governments. liberals demand another round of direct payment. >> the fact we are not addressing the economic crisis of tens of millions of people in this bill and we're giving large corporations carte blanche to ignore the safety needs of their workers tells me that this is not a bill that should be passed. reporter: this will take out a while to sort out. a interim spending bill re-upping government funding at current levels this week to avoid a government shut down on friday hope to get everything worked out on the government funding side next week. combine that with the overall coronavirus bill if they can get a deal. glom that all together, about $908 billion in coronavirus spending and $1.4 trillion to fund the government, it is always a crunch on capitol hill.

capital crunch time. you heard of captain crunch. this is capitol crunch when it comes to december on capitol hill, neil. back to you. neil: thank you very much, for that, my friend, chad pergram following these fast-moving developments here. with the dow down 109 points, you can imagine if they treich a deal particularly on stimulus that could reverse everything, to say nothing of a early nod on the fda meeting this week on any one of these vaccines, pfizer biontech's chief most, official nod by what happened in the uk, bahrain elsewhere would also boost stocks. we'll watch that closely this could be a short-lived selloff if that or either were the case. let's get the read from gary kaltbaum and john layfield. john, say one or the other happens, that is we see the fda officially writing off on this vaccine thereby getting into governors hands to hand out to their, to their constituents, or, or, we get the stimulus

approved with both sides in agreement on a roughly 908 billion-dollar package, devil in the details i know, then what, what do stocks do? >> i think stocks are going up and i think we get both this week. i think it is very good news. i think a lot is baked into the market. i think why the market is trading water right now. when the news comes out, not only especially about the vaccine, when people get vaccinated literally and you start seeing that we're getting this month, going forward, say 21 million of front line workers are going to be vaccinated that will be huge for the market. the pent-up demand we have right now only akin to something we had at the end of world war ii. neil: you know, gary, i was noticing that morgan stanley, among other investment firms, are saying you don't get stimulus this year in a lame-duck session after essentially teasing it all the while, paraphrasing here, you could have some disappointment

what do you think? >> i think the politicians know something has to get done. there is still a ton of people not working. there is still a ton of businesses in trouble so i'm not worried about that, but neil, everything changed november 9th. that was the day the vaccine was announced. at that point in time the vaccine, no pun intended trumped virus and you are seeing airlines and cruise lines and energy stocks and financials and commodities, everything that was dead for six months lighting up like a pinball machine in the markets and you're seeing just a complete broadening out and i think we can have, i'm pretty careful with my words, a stunning rally into the first quarter going forward based on the continued stimulus from the fed and further good news on the vaccine and that is how i'm positioning myself. neil: you know again another investment firm, john layfield, deutsche bank, is saying it sees an up year next year. maybe with the wind at market's

back given some developments that could come to pass, including a vaccine approval here in the u.s., to say nothing of the possibility of still more stimulus, that we'll have you know, a good year next year on top of what's been a surprisingly good year this year. ed yardeni adds to that, it will be a boom year following a boom year for socks. certainly in the comeback since the pandemic. what do you make of all of this? >> comply let agree with that. i agree with what my friend gary kaltbaum said will be surprising to the upside especially the first six months of the year when you see the pent-up demand starting to unleashed. we have 11 million people unemployed. we have to give those people some type of help because they lost the job due to the pandemic. i think that will happen. you have pent-up demand for things that have to have vaccine for the stocks to work, the sector rotation going on. this is people realizing disney is no longer a streaming service

where they met their five-year goal in one year because of the compression of time that happened with covid. now you will see the theme parks, movie theaters, movies themselves coming back in a big way. that was not possible until we had this vaccine and i really believe this pent-up demand is much larger than what people are thinking. neil: you know, gary, i notice orlando, entire region well, obviously the tax favorability it has but goldman sachs looking at you know, a florida hub for its operations, not a replacement for what it has in new york and other metropolitan areas, again this sounds a lot like hewlett-packard enterprises last week when it indicated it was going to expand its facilities not in california but right now in houston, texas. what do you make of this? >> i think people, capital, business, tend to flow where they're treated best and some of these other areas are just not

doing the trick. you know, neil, when i google the words florida, hiking taxes an article comes up is, how florida prevents tax hikes. when i google the words new york hiking taxes, it is a laundry list of proposals they're coming up with for the next year. when i mention new jersey, it talks about the additional wealth tax they did in the last few months. so i think the assumption by new yorks, new jerseys, californias, everybody will stay, everything will be fine but the people, the successful, wealthy they can easily move. you're seeing a lot of it right now. it is just bad advertising when you see a goldman sachs, carl icahn or paul singer, big hedge fund guy have a lot of people working for them moving into the florida. it works for florida. i can tell you they're bidding big apartments here, housing, extensions of hospitals in my area. there is reason for that. people are flowing to lower taxes and good weather.

neil: all right. guys, i want to thank you both very, very much we'll take a quick break here. meantime she is become an iconic figure in the time of shutdowns and spent $80,000 to get ready for outdoor dining to do it safely and healthily and scrupulously, all of sudden she is shut down but notices right next to where she is planning to have the outdoor dining a film industry a key film player got to open up its outdoor facility looks exactly like hers. she wasn't happy and she is here. ♪. we made usaa insurance for members like martin.

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january 5th runoff election i should say in georgia? the polls are surprisingly tight right now. turnout will be key. of course the president was there over the weekend to try to you know, goose support for these republican senators. more on that in a bit. i do want to go to edward lawrence how this race and races, how they stand right now. edward. reporter: neil, the fate of senate could be decided in one of the most expensive runoff elections in the hit of the united states. when it is all said and done the four candidates as well as groups supporting them are expected to spend half a billion dollars between january 3rd and, between november 3rd and january 5th. now ad impact which tracks advertising spending said already 310 million has been spent. bernie sanders said a win by would make president biden the most progressive president ever.

to stop some of those progressives policies from passing through congress like the green new deal and significantly raising taxes on people and businesses this is been at the heart of the ad spending in the state. it played a central role in the debate last night between senator kelly loeffler and rafael warnock where both candidates tried to paint each other on the issues. >> they want to defund the police, raise your taxes, implement the green new deal that would crush jobs and opportunity. what i'm working on is making sure we can get the economy going again. that we can drive forward after this pandemic. >> i do not want to defund the police and kelly loeffler knows it but she keeps saying this because she wants to distract from her own record. the truth of the matter is were it left up to here her georgians would not receive $600 of expanded unemployment insurance. they haven't seen any relief in months. reporter: loeffler saying

warnock would raise taxes and beholden to outside money. warnock says that is not the case. that she is out for herself. the other debate for the other senate seat, senator david perdue chose not to attend. his campaign released a statement saying jon ossoff lost the debate against himself. still a lot of money thrown at the race f you believe senator bernie sanders possibly a very progressives president stands in the balance how this falls. back to you. neil: thank you, my friend. edward lawrence in washington. the president made it very clear how he feels about all of this, not the senate race, his own. he is is not giving up. take a look. president trump: i have to say, if i lost i would be a very gracious loser. if i lost i would say i lost and i would go to florida and i would take it easy and i would go around and say i did a good job but you can't ever accept when they steal and rig and rob.

neil: all right. there has been no proof of that president talked about at least on wide scale enough basis to influence the race. his own attorney general said that number of republicans have but the president is zeroing in on 25 already daring to call joe biden the president-elect of the united states. i want to get a read on all of this from mark weinberg, former press secretary to president ronald reagan, a best-selling author in his own right. mark what do you make of this? the president is arguing he would be a very gracious loser if it comes down he ended up losing the race but holding up the caveat it was a rigged game. he wouldn't necessarily just turn around say way to go, joe, see you for the inauguration, when he harbors these doubts, no matter what the electoral college says i suspect, but what do you think? >> wait, did you say that donald trump said he would be gracious? i can't imagine it. he has never been gracious about

anything. neil: donald trump said that. donald trump said that you don't buy it. >> about himself. it's silly. he is not gracious. that is the last thing he is but here's the thing, neil. the people have spoken. the president just doesn't like what they said. it is both delusion alt and dangerous for him to keep on this path. was the election perfect? no. but imperfect does not mean fraudulent and it is time for him to put the country and the office and of his own political fortunes, accept the word of the people and let us get on. neil: you know can be very tough to swallow defeat. i get that. you worked with ronald reagan when he lost the republican nomination by a whisker to gerald ford in 1976. a lot of people were bitter around governor reagan were very bitter, think he had been had and party powers that be sort of secured that nomination for gerald ford but he did campaign for ford. he did come storming back four years later.

so there is something to be said about being gracious in defeat. now, this president has argued there are a lot of questions about this election, no doubt there are some irregularities but his own attorney general argued not enough to influence the outcome. do you feel the same way? >> yes. let me tell you something about ronald reagan in 1976. after he was finally and officially defeated, he walked into a room of supporters and with that grim, said, mom, we had a good fight but the other boy won. he moved on. he understood that in politics there are winners and losers. he, as you say dedicated himself to republican causes and to the ford ticket. he came back because he handled it properly. there was no bitterness. there were no charges of fraud. yes, this election is imperfect. there is no such thing as a perfect, flawless election but that doesn't mean it was fraudulent. it doesn't mean it was rigged. it doesn't mean it was corrupt. and it is interesting to note

that every recount the trump campaign has requested resulted in what, more votes for biden. it's time. neil: all right, now more votes in some states for biden but in others the gap narrowed a little bit but to your point not nearly enough to win the day. >> right. neil: for donald trump. i would be curious, do you think if ronald reagan were battling something like this right now there were serious considerations about you know, missing ballots and all of that and regardless, would he keep it going this long? what makes and how would he define a time you have to say, all right, i might not like this but al gore didn't like supreme court intervening in 2000, but on the crucial state deciding that the count stopped, you knew the election fight was over and conceded graciously? what would ronald reagan do in a situation like this if there were some considerations of you

know, weird things going on, not necessarily to a level to affect the outcome, certainly to raise eyebrows what do you think he would do? >> ronald reagan if nothing else was a realist and he would ask his people look, is there really something fundamental here that could change the outcome or are there nickel and dime things on the periphery that might make a difference of one or two votes here and there? when he found out what the reality was, that it would not make a difference and that the other candidate had won, he would as always put the country first and say, well, fellows let's pick up the phone, get me joe biden, so i can congratulate him and let the country move on. he would have put the country, not his political fortunes first. he was a realist. neil: do you think he would also size up his response as it was in that controversial nomination loss to gerald ford in 1976, would do him in good favor to

look magnanimous? can always come in handy being magnanimous, it was for him. >> of course. it wasn't controversial. ford had more votes. reagan knew that. there was no controversy of fraud or manipulation. like i said came into the room, told the supporter, mom we had a good fight but the other boy won. reagan accepts things and did not dwell on weirdo conspiracy theories. he accepted reality. he doesn't attempt to appear to be magnanimous. he was magnanimous. there was no act there. neil: all right. thank you very, very much, mark great catching up with you, mark weinberg, following all of those developments, former press secretary to president ronald reagan. when we come back you know they're locking things down in left and right, at the point close to nine out of 10 californians are impacted by it, shutting down restaurants, museums, theaters, you name it.

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♪. neil: all right. roughly nine out of 10 californians right now under new restrictions, some call them outright stay at home orders. they're not quite that sweeping but they're getting very close to where they were at the height of the pandemic. who is affected what's affected right now with william la jeunesse in los angeles. william what are they talking about here? reporter: well, number one, neil, the restaurants are not giving up. they're fighting in court. as you mentioned those new hunkering down orders as of last week? 45% of californians are not following it, that is according to a new usc survey. then of course you have the economy. you have businesses largely closed and retail is capped at 20%. but the bad news on the health front, well that situation is getting worse. here you go. covid fatalities surpassing 200 day in california.

that was on friday. positivity rate, one out of 10 people is testing positive for the virus who does get tested. here's the bad news. nine states are doing worse than california. here's why. it is going to get worse. after you become infected it is about 14 days before you show symptoms. another week before being hospitalized and then some go to the icu. thanksgiving was just 11 days ago, meaning cases are rising from the holiday when 48 million americans traveled, have yet to show up in the data. >> this is unprecedented, unprecedented. i hope to never have to go through anything like this again. people are dying. you know, if we cannot defeat this virus divided we all have to be together. reporter: two regions are on lockdown as you mentioned. southern california and the san joaquin valley. they are down to just 6% of available icu beds. now the valley is really where a

lot of america gets its fruits and vegetables. farmers, pickers, drivers, especially during the winter, they don't have much choice. in fresno alone only six icu beds are open for a county of million people. no business wants to close and many are demanding to see the science. >> i think it is absurd we're closing. we have ventilation systems all over. we have barriers. technicians wear shields, disposable gloves. they have masks on. >> this is another punch in the stomach for small business. i'm afraid we'll see another wave of businesses closing up. reporter: neil, i spoke to an e.r. doc at the largest receiving hospital in los angeles. he has two concerns, number one, staffing. people with minor health ailments at least now will ignore care and get a lot worse later on. neil? neil: yikes, thank you my

friend, william la jeunesse. i want to get a doctor's read. few better than the dr. pietri, assistant clinical professor of cardiology at mount sinai school of medicine, much, much more. always appreciate when you take the time for us, what do you think of what they're doing in california, what they could be doing in new york city, shutting down indoor dining across new york city, as hospital rates continue to soar what do you think of this? >> neil, the numbers speak for themselves. the proof is in the numbers. unfortunately we're seeing explosions of cases everywhere. we're in the pandemic free fall and how do you put a value on a life lost? it is true, we have two sides here. we have the businesses, the economic impact but we have all these lives that we are losing and all the predictions have been accurate so far. we are going to see more and more cases. we have to do something to stop the pandemic. it will not disappear on its

own. unfortunately states make decisions at their government level when it comes to dial up and dial down the restrictions. neil: what is behind the spikes, doctor? to hear a lot of restaurateurs talk about, it is not happening at their places. bar owners saying same thing. gym owners saying the same thing. i'm not sure depending on the state maybe it varies where are these spikes originating? because now the latest is this news that rudy giuliani has contracted the virus, tested positive for it? what do you make of all of this? >> well a lot of spreading occurs in household settings also. and because this virus penetrated all the layers of the society, all the structures of the fabric. so it is still omnipresent this virus. it is hard to pinpoint at this point where you know, it spreads to other people. regarding giuliani just proof

that this virus is not selecting, it is not sparing, social status or economic status and it just redicks the latest addition to the string of cases within the top officials. it just amazes me people are willing to brush their mortality and not abide by some basic measurements. neil: you know, doctor, a little later on the show we will have this angela marsden on. she owns a saloon and grill forced to shut down after she plunged more than $80,000 to make things perfectly safe, distance all the other things she had to do in california and yet for outdoor dining a film company was able to construct the same sort of outdoor dining facility literally right next to hers and she is just overwhelmed. how does that happen and does the double standard hurt people's compliance with these

health measures? >> well we have to kind of implement some public measures, there is no question about. when it comes to particular situations you mentioned that is hard to give a straight answer to that but it has to take a toll on us because unless we fight this together we'll not overcome this crisis and it is only getting worse and worse. we look at the hospital rates, they're decimating our health care system. unfortunately it reflects to all angles of the society, economic, business and personal and health care. neil: all right. you're right we have to be careful. just don't know where to begin where it ends, dr. luiza petre on the fast moving developments. one of the things we're looking for what is the best way to handle the potential shutdowns. we'll get into that. also the best way to get our

economy out of the funk it is in although a much better situation than it was at the height of the pandemic. in washington a bipartisan push for stimulus and maybe some checks out to people but not the checks you think. after this. ♪. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

♪. neil: man, oh, man, javier becerra come a long way in very little time if you think about it. congressman not too long ago. becomes california attorney general. joe biden's pick to become the next health and human services secretary of the united states. big news obviously for mr. becerra, maybe the tone the administration will take when it comes to tackling covid-19. peter doocy in wilmington, delaware with more

on all of this. hey, peter. reporter: neil, good afternoon. biden's pick to run health and human services department is somebody who in the past endorsed "medicare for all," thing that joe biden laughed off being i am possibly expensive now javier becerra is in the mix. i helped pass affordable care act. as california attorney general i defended it. i will make sure every american pass access to quality and affordable health care. his path is steep. tom cotton republican ever arkansas, tweeted the following. ba cerro spent his career attacking pro-life americans and advocated pregnancy centers to advertise aboringss. he is disaster. i will be voting no. becerra should be rejected by

the senate. other critically important appointments for president taking office, dr. vivek murthy will be returning to the role. and dr. anthony fauci will return as chief medical advisor for covid-19. >> i'm not exactly sure what the presays structure that will be put up but certainly something similar in the sense of a daily monitoring and involvement of this extraordinary challenge that we're going through. reporter: the president-elect does not have any public events on his schedule today. delaware day, neil. neil: i didn't know it was delaware day. i would not have dressed like this. anyway, it is what it is. thank you very much peter doocy on this delaware day, otherwise known as monday, december 7th. go to rita wilson "the hill" correspondent on all these

developments. so much i have want to get into, reed. becerra to take over health and human services would be very active administration when it comes to dealing with covid, open to the idea of mask mandate. other issues that in california are getting pretty sweeping if you think about the fact that nine out of 10 californians are subjected to these new shutdown rules. what do you make of the message joe biden could be sending? >> well, it is clear that the biden administration realizes that the coronavirus is issue number one, two and three. if you don't solve that, you will not solve any other problems in the united states. he put together a team that looks like it will be much more dedicated to tracking and testing and building capabilities that we need to get past this pandemic. he has brought in people like jeff zeints management expert that helped salvage health care.com during the obama

administration. that is recognition this pandemic does not just involve the sort of hard sciences of epidemiology and virology and getting people -- managing massive levers of government to get this crisis under control. neil: you know it is interesting because all of the brokerage firms in one way, shape or form, investment banks we call them today, offering advice to the biden administration. jpmorgan chase among those saying stimulus is a good idea, the more the better, i'm paraphrasing here. indicating when it comes to what gives you the most bang for the buck, urn employment benefits, stimulus checks and the like in americans hands will make a big difference. what do you make of that, likelihood of seeing that, certainly maybe not in this lame-duck session plan but the likelihood of seeing it in a biden administration? >> well, we're probably going to see the expanded unemployment benefit as part of this bipartisan group of senators crafting a new covid relief

package that will probably end up as a part of the money, package to continue government operations towards the end of the year. congress is great doing these things at at absolute last minute possible. so i imagine -- can come there. biden administration this, is cover for the biden administration to go seek the extra stimulus and pretty clear that money is needed when it dried up in august. we saw that jpmorgan paper refers to the just a substantial decline in the savings of low income americans. that money was really a lifeline and there are still millions of people unemployed who might need it. that is where the biden administration will push for once they're inaugurated. neil: you know, reed, if you doesn't mind while i have you here, i love picking your brain on these things, leaving aside the president whether shows up for the inauguration or graciously acknowledges defeat as he hinted at in georgia over the weekend, what is that

inauguration going to look like? obviously the middle of this pandemic crowds are probably going to be limited. event and setup on steps of the capitol will be limited. have you heard anything. >> they're building the physical stage that happens every four years despite this going on. you can imagine not a lot of senators or representatives or dig dignitaries sitting in the cold close together. we'll not see the formnal lunch and definitely not the inaugural balls previous presidents were able to visit. i think the thing since the campaign joe biden wants to exude this competence and carefulness. he always has pa mask on. he is careful about the distancing. every time he speaks there is guy runs up to the podium wipes it down. neil: yeah.

>> biden is taking this extremely serious. i think that will lead to an inauguration that will not look like anything we've ever seen. neil: all right. it looks like the president may be, when we get the electoral college meeting, finally writing off that joe biden won, he might say with some caveats here but it was rigged. i'm just wondering if even shows up for the inauguration? does that matter? joe biden said i'm paraphrasing here, doesn't matter to me, but does matter to the american people to have the transfer of power in a peaceful way is a hallmark of our democracy. what do you make of the importance of the outgoing president showing up with the incoming one? >> well i think it would be important for sort of sending a message on a bunch of different levels here, that we do have peaceful transfers of power. i'm reminded of a really powerful photograph of jimmy carter and ronald reagan riding to reagan's inaugural together,

the defeated president and incoming president together. the one thing that i'm really curious to see on trump, what is he going to do when a vaccine for the coronavirus becomes widely available? he is the most popular figure in the republican party. got 73 million votes in this election. if he sits down and gets a vaccine on camera, that could do a lot to get people to buy in to a vaccine, people who are his fans who would do well to take care of their health if they accept this vaccine. neil: do you think he is already running for 2024? >> i think he is not going to foreclose the option. president trump loves the power that he commands over the republican party right now and i don't see him giving that up for any reason. i would be willing to bet you that once we get closer to an actual election, a time when he has to file papers to run in say the iowa caucuses and new hampshire primary, he might not, that might be the point at which he says i'm done but it is

clear that he has no intention of letting go of the grip that he has got on the republican party and that's going to, that will be real interesting when we start thinking about the other candidates who want to run. how do they get -- neil: yeah. >> without angering president trump, risking a tweet? neil: yeah. it is going to be very tough. reed "the hill" correspondent. reed wilson. dow down 143 points. things to be ironed out. (announcer) carvana's had a lot of firsts.

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♪. neil: all right. call it coast to coast crisis. shutdowns going into effect that will limit, if not wipe out indoor dining throughout much of the golden state, out in california and new york considering similar measures. governor andrew cuomo says he would shut down new york city restaurant indoor dining if he doesn't see the hospitalization rate stablize and soon, within five days. what is happening in both locales hospital space is shrinking rapidly. that is the latest metric where governors decide do i close more or open more? right now they're closing more. that affect as number of businesses. when we come back a woman who says enough is enough. that is before all these latest

developments. how does she at least try to get a business going when around her there are double standards for other businesses that can keep going? after this. ♪

everything i own is being taken away from me, and they set up a movie company right next to

my outdoor patio. tell me that this is dangerous, but right next to me as a slap in my face, that's safe. this is safe? neil: she has become the face of a frustrated movement and i don't know whether it was just her powerful delivery and speaking from the heart, or the fact that what she was showing was remarkable in that it was the exact same setup, her outdoor dining and then the nbc comedy show's "good girl" outdoor dining. looked identical. looked like it was her big old operation but it wasn't. hers was shut down. the nbc comedy show "good girls" setup was on, is on and remains open. we are joined by the owner of the pineapple grill and saloon. very good to have you.

i'm sure people kept telling you this video, your passion was remarkable but for the life of me, i think what was the most startling to me is you were showing something within mere feet of each other that was identical, yet you are shut down, they are not. >> yeah. it was pretty crazy, pretty hard to believe. i mean, i was in shock for sure. neil: did they explain to you why this happened? i know for this nbc comedy show, this setup was established after yours had already been dismissed, right? >> yeah. i mean, honestly, neil, i don't want to focus on the production company so much because you know, i have said it before. they're hurting. everybody's hurting and they're just trying to survive. it's the people that are making the rules and that are issuing

permits that it's without conscience, without thought of anybody, you know? it's unexplainable how any of that can actually make sense. neil: we put out a call to mayor eric garcetti on all of this. he did not respond to us. but he said my heart goes out to miss marsden and the workers at the pineapple hill saloon who have to comply with the state and comply with the public restrictions that closed outdoor dining, but he didn't say anything about how it doesn't apply to everyone, on the same day we're learning that there's going to be a lot more of this going on in california with a much more sweeping shutdown of indoor and outdoor dining. what do you make of it all? >> you know what, those are just

words, okay? and that does not change the situation and the devastation that is about to hit this city. it is not just me in this boat. there are so many, i'm speaking on behalf of the small businesses and the bars and the restaurants. after this shutdown, some of them will make it one month longer, and i continue to say to mayor garcetti, you know, please call me in, i'll sit down and talk with you, i'll bring people from our industry and we will come up with a workable solution, because that is what his job is, right? he is, we put people in office to figure out solutions for everybody, do risk management, you know, to assess the risk and you know, small business owners, we care so much about our community and our people. we're willing to do whatever it takes to keep them safe. but if we're not here when you

come out of your door, you know, your house in two months, the community is going to be destroyed, just destroyed, from unemployment to suicide rates to businesses being shuttered to homeless doubling, tripling. i mean, i'm not a politician, i'm not, you know, i don't have a big fancy degree but i can see and i can figure it out. so why can't they figure it out? we can't close our businesses. we need to stay open, you know, to survive this, you know. i'm just dumbfounded. i really -- i don't understand it. i really am at a loss and i'm heartbroken. i have a staff, my kitchen staff, this place is their whole life. i have other bar owners that have been shut down for nine months that are losing everything they have. i know other small businesses, you know, one that has a spa

that's lost almost all her clients. she's gotten three eviction notices and she's a single mom with a 12-year-old. what are they going to do when people don't pay the rent? and the evictions come out in february? you can't just tell people they can stay home, because that is not -- that's lala-land, you know? i got a letter from -- neil: what are you going to do now? >> you know, i'm going to keep trying to get the word out and trying to bring awareness to the point that maybe, maybe they'll do something. for myself personally, i have been very blessed. i mean, quite frankly, awed. my security guard started in tea tears. i had lost faith in humanity and after this, it's restored hope for me because we have had donations coming in but i'm one business and i am so, so grateful, i'm so grateful that

with the help of this, i actually might survive if, if they pass a package, you know, like what is going on that our leadership can shut our businesses and not, with two days' notice, before the holidays, and not offer a solution to pay us to stay in our homes? and if they can't, then do the risk assessment. i have two employees that have lost people that are close to them to suicide in the last two months. i have a bartender sleeping on a couch, you know, one with a 3-year-old who can't pay her rent and can't get a job, you know. i just hired her because we've gotten busy in october. she had two weeks of training and then was laid off again from her third job. this is not realistic. this is not common sense. we need, if anything, if i can appeal to newsom and garcetti

and say listen, when you leave your office, you know, do you want to be remembered like martin luther king or like kennedy, do you want people to look back and say my gosh, we were in this time of trouble and these people came up with outside thinking and created compromise to keep us all safe and all going? because people, as a human, we cannot live without connection. we cannot live without food. we cannot live without rent. so i don't understand what is going on here, how they can be that out of touch that they can't see this and i'm not -- neil: are you frustrated as well, though, angela, by what appears to be a double standard? i don't know the latest and whether that film company -- [ speaking simultaneously ]

>> the double standard -- neil: the double standard for politicians who say one thing and do quite another, of course it's gotten legion in your state, i'm wondering is that really what gets you angrier? >> i mean, that is nonstop. so let's just say, you know, you're a small business owner like myself, and you see the governor go out to french laundry and spend $15,000 on a bar bill. do you know how much that would have helped a small business like mine? in the middle of a pandemic when he's telling us not to, with a bunch of people, you know. the never-ending basically shoving it in your face that we're different and we have privilege that you don't, just tells you it must be safe. i mean, sheila cooiie, her saying it was the most dangerous thing in the world dining out

and then going next door and dining out, do you know what that did to every bar and restaurant owner in this town? and how angry and how upset? we have worked, you can go to my site, phsaloon, i have tables seven feet apart. my servers were wearing gloves, masks, face shields, taking temperatures in 110 degrees in august. you know, i had to decide between are they going to have a heat stroke or are they, you know, do i, you know, get in trouble because they're not wearing the plastic face mask. the double standard is outrageous. and if you put yourself in leadership, your heart has to be for the people. i don't care what ph.d. you have or who you are, if you are not taking care of the people and it's not about politics, neil, it's about people, and people are getting lost in the middle of all these politics and

slogans and businesses -- my business has been boarded up, there's been businesses where they have been trashed, they have been caught on fire. we're not just dealing with a pandemic. we have been under siege this entire year. and -- neil: aren't these guys, those in authority, blaming the spike in cases, high hospitalization rates right now, they must be tracing it to restaurants or indoor and outdoor dining but nothing i have seen from the statistics bears that out. >> neil, they don't have any evidence. neil: what are they saying? >> they are saying basically right now, we have it in front of the california supreme court and the judge ordered that they had to provide evidence. the evidence that they showed came from indoor dining, from what i hear, so you can fact-check me, i'm just a normal person telling you what i read and heard, that a lot of what they were giving was from eight months ago when there was indoor dining or was coming from across the country. they don't have that proof or

that evidence. you know, to make arbitrary decisions once again with no notice and not providing funding for people to live is the cruellest, most illogical, i would like to say maybe they just don't know because they're so out of touch, but i just can't imagine anybody could be this far removed from what working class people go through. i had an e-mail from someone and they said please don't put my name, but she said you know, the postal service and the garbage, the cleanup crew, we have had to work the entire time. we don't have a choice. we have to work. and she's like -- she was basically saying i'm on your side. it is a farce to say that we can all just stay at home and wait out, i mean, how long is this going to go now with this spike? is it going to go three months?

neil: it's apparently another three weeks at a minimum. can you survive -- >> at a minimum. neil: at a minimum. >> in the businesses that have survived right now, neil, are, i mean, i read on yelp, again, i hate to get into specifics and not know exactly if they're right, but 61% of our businesses here that shut down will never reopen and the ones that are open are spending their life savings to try to get through this to the other side. and this closure is going to devastate l.a. we already have a homeless problem. we have a huge homeless problem. our suicide rates are going through the roof. i mean, compare the deaths to covid to suicide rates, i guess, i don't know. every life matters and we don't want people sick and we don't want anybody to die, but we have to -- we're going to die from poverty. we're going to die from depression. we're going to die from suicide if somebody doesn't do

something. i beg -- i'm begging -- neil: i apologize but i did want to check, your video that you provided was so riveting and it sounded like you had just discovered this weird thing going on right next to your outdoor dining facility, this one setup for this film crew, and you didn't mean to disparage it, nor did you, but that they looked identical. they looked like the identical setup. they're open, you're closed. what made you -- so it's at that point i almost got to feeling i got to show this to the world, i've got to show that they are identical and yet they are going to be open and i can't be. >> you know what, i kid you not, two days before thanksgiving, on a monday, they told us we had to close the night before thanksgiving and i knew, because i had tried to do takeout before and i was feeding the hospitals, that it wouldn't survive and i had to shut down. i was coming in that day to give

last paychecks and bags of groceries to my staff. i had no idea what i was about to walk into. if you can imagine giving last paychecks and telling people with children and people that have worked here since 1978 that they don't have a job in the holidays and they have to parade through what looks like another restaurant open and working like next to us, i was in shock. i started crying and i said i've had it. restaurant owners, business owners, we're afraid to say anything because we're afraid people will think we don't care about covid or we don't care about people. but i was like i can't be afraid anymore. i have to let people know what's going on. because it was devastating. and the city -- neil: it certainly looks -- angela, i've got to tell you, i

have seen many videos provided by people whose business was affected by this. this was so powerful because you were revealing something of a double standard that few people were aware of right next door. i think that's what hit home for a lot of folks, even for those who are worried about covid-19, that's what registered. people just said that isn't right. >> on black friday, i was so depressed, i thought i wonder if anything's open. the mall was open. on black friday, after they shut me down, i went to the mall, no temperature check, no plastic face shields, no gloves. anybody can try on any piece of clothing indoors that they want, on black friday after they shut us down. i mean, it started that morning and it started inside me but it was, you know, a higher power,

what happened on friday i am still in a whirlwind from. you know, that was just somehow the world -- i don't even know how those circumstances, they just came about, you know. it was nothing -- i didn't expect any of this or all this. but i do know so many businesses and employees and people have said angela, please keep talking to people, please speak on our behalf because we're not going to make it, you know. so yeah, it's just, it's been a whirlwind and i am awed in the human spirit. i've had people from england call me. i have had people from australia call, from all over the country, because everybody is in this. like we are in this together, you know. it's not me against the production company or me against, you know, the massage parlors or the mall, you know. it's just about people and us surviving this.

it's like the "titanic" is going down. what are you going to do? are you going to sit and play a fiddle, or are you going to get the lifeboats out and start thinking outside the box and save people? that is literally how serious this is. we will not know the effects until like i said, in february, they are going to start pulling evictions. do you know how many people, how many restaurant employees are not paying their rent? when your rent is over $1,000 a month and it's not been paid for five months, six months, ten months, what are you going to do when they start evicting you or telling you to start making payments with regular rent on top of that, with no job to go to because there's not going to be any jobs left. the businesses are going to be gone. it's such a big trickle-down issue and why, i mean, the numbers going up, you guys knew

in march so open up the empty hospitals, bring the ship, get space for the icu beds but you can't crush people, the average person in the lower class, the middle class, you can't crush them to try to save others and pit us against each other. you can't do that and expect to come back to a city. i mean, i know it sounds desperate but it's desperate. i mean, it's desperate. if i could show you the stories and the homeless and i have, neil, i had a homeless man jump through my to-go window. i know a bartender whose son was just robbed in their front yard by gunpoint. people are desperate. it is very very very serious. these politicians, i don't know, i don't know how they're not seeing this or how they're not getting it, you know.

this is real lives that they're affecting. neil: angela, you know, you didn't want to become, nor did you seek out becoming a spokesman for your industry -- >> no, i did not. neil: you are now, whether you like it or not. >> i just hope it does something. i hope it moves somebody. neil: i want you to hang in there. you have moved the nation. i'm getting e-mails from people as we speak listening to you, mesmerized by you. i hope it works out, it should work out, but no industry, no group could look for a better champion than you and sometimes in the middle of a crisis, people like you evolve, they come up out of nowhere. i'm not saying you are out of nowhere. but you are somewhere now. >> somebody sent me a quote and i wanted to share this quote, because i have been trying to, you know, people are asking me questions and i don't even know the words to put. i try to speak from my heart and i'm like oh, i hope i'm doing it

right by all the other business owners. it was this quote by bob marley that said you never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. that's where we are all at right now. you know? i don't want to open up and hurt anybody. i want my place to be safe and be open. i don't want to lose my liquor license and my health permit. i just want to live. i want my staff to be able to eat, you know? neil: fair enough. fair enough. i think bob marley would be very impressed with your saloon and bar. very very impressed. i want to thank you very much. my best to you and all your incredible people, but particularly to you. i know you don't like being in this role but it's a damn good thing you are. angela marsden, pineapple hill grill saloon owner, just trying to make sure everyone gets a fair chance, a fair crack. no double standards. just one standard. looking out for people and their

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neil: man, oh, man, we are getting an enormous reaction right now to angela marsden, this restaurant bar owner whose situation just got a little more

ominous with talk of still more crackdowns in the golden state. in fact, it is the lockdown measures being anticipated there, threatened in new york city on the other side of the country because of starkly lower hospitalization usage rates that is sort of adding to some of the market angst out there. the dow down about 166 points. let's go to susan li on some of these factors kind of affecting traders with another two and a half hours worth of trading to go. susan: fantastic interview there, neil. let's talk about the ipo rush because that is on this week. lots of wall street interest and prices, not surprisingly, are going up. we are talking about airbnb raising their price range from $56 to $60 apiece now. that values the company at roughly $42 billion. remember, that's more than double what they raised emergency cash at just in the springtime. door dash also pricing somewhere between $90 and $95. that's a valuation of $36 billion. that's also more than twice the value they had raised cash at

just in the private rounds in june this year, a few months ago. besides the airbnbs and door dash, other big unicorns always well, including wish, the third largest e-commerce player in the u.s. not a lot of people know that. also the most downloaded apps in the world. also roblox and affirm two to watch as well. it seems like not everyone is a fan of the shift to electric so get this. one in six cadillac dealers would rather close their sales floors than actually sell electric. cadillac we know is owned by scombloern general motors and according to the "wall street journal" one in six dealerships would rather take payouts than close, than spend $200,000 to change their dealership upgraded with charging stations in order to sell electric. gm investing $4.5 billion to release at least 20 new electric cars by the year 2023. finally, what's the best sign that the world economy is recovering from covid?

industrial metals like copper and nickel, or demand for these so-called metals says factory and construction are up and running once again. copper prices, highest in eight years. that sounds great. iron ore which goes into making steel and the best performers on the year zinc and aluminum up roughly 40% since the end of march. aren't you happy, i didn't test you on the baltic dry index? got to be pleased with that. neil: so glad you didn't. all right. thank you, susan, very much for that. susan li following that. so a read of two different possibilities here, vaccines that could eradicate the virus and those states that are cracking down because they haven't come close to eradicating the virus. charlie gasparino looking at some of these mixed signals right now. hey, charlie. charlie: hey, neil. on the top commodity prices, another interesting i guess foreshadowing of the end of the pandemic that could come in the spring and obviously, the

economic impact that that would be is what you find in junk bond prices. i have been looking at triple c junk bonds, companies that are kind of near default but not quite in default. they are triple c rated and they have been trading wildly up over the last month, including recently. now, we should point out that junk bonds for some reason historically have always traded up towards the end of the year but this is a much more pronounced swing upwards, and you know, i'm talking to traders and investors and saying why is that, and clearly, let's unpack this a bit. if you look at the capital structure of any company, the guys that get paid out last in a bankruptcy are the equity holders and right above them, it's the junk bonds. so if the junk bonds are trading up, what people are essentially saying is look, there's going to be less -- fewer bankruptcies out there. that means the economy's going to get better.

that is some of the sort of forward-looking indications that the markets are starting to price in that the pandemic, given all the vaccine issues, even though we still have a very very difficult situation health-wise in the country with indications ticking up and hospitalizations, but future looking is where traders and investors go, they are saying it's positive. i want to point out one other thing, though. i should point out that there's a lot of talk about stimulus coming up, i believe mitch mcconnell's going to address some of that today at 3:00. a lot of people think that in order for the economy to get through the gap between when the vaccines really kick in and before we can really say that we are going to flatten the curve on this thing, we need a stimulus bill. so a lot of traders are also saying not so fast on the rosy scenario. if congress doesn't pass something close to $1 trillion in stimulus, these lockdowns are going to have a big impact on the economy and it's going to be

tougher to come out of it even when we do get a vaccine. so watch what mcconnell says today. i incorrectly tweeted earlier today that he was going to have a bill. there's not going to be a bill today. but i think we are going to get, based on my sources, some indication of where they're going with this, how big it is, the number, $900 billion has been out there. does it give up liability protection for businesses. some people are telling us, gop sources, that he may be willing to give on that if pelosi and the democrats back down on some of their big-time proposals like direct aid to states on their pension funds. that's where we are right now. we will have to see what mcconnell says. back to you. neil: thank you, charlie gasparino. well, if people are worried about that, you wouldn't look it in their shopping, particularly those shopping for christmas trees. jeff flock, i guess there are lots of people doing just that, aren't there? reporter: you know, neil, it might be easier to call up amazon and get a chinese one,

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♪ neil: well, they say there's nothing more real than cutting down your own christmas tree. i have heard of those people. to jeff flock, who is among them in spring grove, illinois. jeff, if you're right, i have no reason to doubt you, you are still cutting that thing. so obviously there are a lot of people like you. reporter: hey! okay. it's not standing anymore, by golly. yeah, just killed a tree. that's a good thing.

oh, sorry. lot of people are killing trees this year. this is a good thing, right? >> this is a good thing. these are crops grown by tree farmers like myself specifically for this purpose, and of course, 100% recyclable is the very coolest thing about real christmas trees. reporter: thanks to covid, i think, in large measure, more people are buying real trees this year and they started early. you have sold 7,000 trees already. you put the numbers up. 39% of people surveyed this year are buying a christmas tree, say they are going to buy real as opposed to, you know, opposed to the japanese -- i say japanese, chinese -- >> yeah, fake trees. we're glad to see that. real trees are catching on. it's a renewable, sustainable resource, it's good for the environment. all the years that it's growing and 100% recyclable, those factors resonate with people nowadays. it makes that real tree even more memorable, more important to our lives. reporter: yeah, especially this year, when so many traditions

are going away. i want to show you an editorial, though, from an organization that kind of supports american agriculture. they say fake christmas trees made mostly in china by workers making pennies an hour continue to flood the market. in these uncertain times, few things can create a real experience as well as a christmas tree grown in the united states. i didn't know most of the, well, the artificial trees, we will call them, are made in china. >> made overseas, yes. plastic pvc is going to end up in a landfill. they do collect dust over the years, too. so nothing beats the beauty and the scent of fresh evergreen in your home. reporter: and the memories which i will leave you a picture. maybe this is self-indulgent but i just had to do it because it's my daughter when she was 3. this is now -- she's now 34. so do the math. this was one of her fondest childhood memories, when we went out and cut our own tree, tied it on the roof of the car. i think it fell off at one

point. at any rate, there you go. memories. neil: that's a beautiful memory. you seem so good at it. if you don't mind heading over to new jersey, helping me out, because i never get out of my suit, you know what i mean? we can do that, a little marinara sauce. we're on our way. reporter: i'm there. neil: come on. we'll have more after this. mobile app so you can quickly check the markets? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard before we board. excellent. and you have thinkorswim mobile- -so i can finish analyzing the risk on this position. you two are all set. have a great flight. thanks. we'll see ya. ah, they're getting so smart. choose the app that fits your investing style. ♪

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neil: you know, people aren't only buying christmas trees as we showed you with jeff flock in the last segment. they are buying lots of stuff. in fact, right now, the retail environment is so strong that a lot of people expect it to be potentially up double digits from last year. i don't know if that will pan out that way, but my next guest sure does. he's co-ceo of the american dream malls and he joins us

right now. mark, good to have you. how are things looking for this christmas season? >> you know, we reopened december 1st with a big bang. we saw demand coming in and one thing about american dream a lot of people don't know, we have the world's largest indoor water park, an amusement park, we have a six-story theater. [ inaudible ]. neil: i assume that's a slide behind you. i don't see anyone on it. is it just the season or -- >> well, [ inaudible ] at our

water park and we are at 25% capacity, we have to abide by the cdc. we are seeing a lot of demand for our parks and for shopping. neil: it's interesting, you must have the same kind of, you know, distancing provisions and everything else. how do you handle that? tell us some of the things you're doing. >> absolutely. so we're pretty unique in terms of [ inaudible ] so there is natural distancing for our guests. masks are a requirement, hand sanitization stations are throughout the entire center. we are pretty strict about masks. if you aren't wearing a mask, you are asked to kindly put a mask on. if you don't want to put a mask on, you are asked kindly to leave. we are doing our best to try to

adhere to all the cdc guidelines. neil: it's tough competing with the online players, amazon, even walmart has gotten in a big way. obviously you have a lot of stores under your roof. where are people gravitating? >> they are gravitating to [ inaudible ]. they are shopping. i think people want to get out of their homes. i have kids, i have a wife and kids that are home, they all want to get out. on sundays, we're not sure what to do. they want to do something. they are all looking for something new. people want to go, they want to touch things. on top of that, you have the water park, all the experiences. it's a defendant mastination fo. neil: good for you. i'm not a big shopper myself but

you sure as heck make it appealing with some of the other things you offer to get even lazy lugs like myself in there. i wish you well. the american dream mall co-ceo. lot of neat stuff here. you don't have to give in to the amazons. you can fight your own battles. amazon doesn't have rides, does it? yet. after this. hi, this is margaret your dell technologies advisor to listen, is to hear more than what's being said... and offer the answers that make someone feel truly heard. i understand, let's get started call a dell technologies advisor today. less sick days! cold coming on?

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full display in 2020. i think as you move forward, there might be one vaccine for the pandemic but there's not going to be one vip in terms of winning the war on perception. because this really is, when you talk about the doubt and skepticism and speculation around the vaccine, you're not talking about a demographic battle. you are talking about psychographic. you are talking about values, point of view, hopes and fears and in that regard, it's going to take a lot more persuasion and tactical implementation to convert the masses that are hesita hesitant. i do think athletes have a huge foothold in that sfpace because of their role in mainstream culture today. neil: i was thinking of athletes who played prominent roles during war time. joe louis during world war ii. so they can rally a nation. but this is a different bird, isn't it. to get people rallied around vaccines when so many of them way prior to the pandemic had

concerns about them, period. no one wants to be first in line. >> you're absolutely right. interesting conversation. i have been fortunate to work with athletes from manhattan to mississippi, and there's a certain consistency and you just alluded to it. cultural lingering fears and speculation. quite often it falls on the african-american community. two weeks ago, dave chappelle joined joe royigen's podcast an they had a frank conversation about the election, the pandemic and the vaccine. and they talked about the skepticism in the african-american community across the nation. i mention it for two reasons. number one, that video on youtube has been viewed 7.6 million times. right there, they are two guys along with the athletes lebron, tiger, serena and the like, those are two guys that have great reach but number two, i think it really underscores what you referenced and that is the deep-seated concern and

skepticism surrounding the vaccine which long preceded covid and the pandemic, just vaccines in general. when i talk about combatting this from a psychographic standpoint, what you are really combatting from the p.r. sense are these deep-seated fears and in that regard, when you find these would-be endorsers of the vaccine, you are really going towards those with a q score that lean toward trust and credibility. it's the old conventional would i trust them to watch my child when i went out to run some errands, that type of thing. there are quite a broad offering of athletes and entertainers and personalities that fit the bill. neil: speaking of covid in general, it's really messed up the college season, hasn't it? some schools had a late start, others are handicapped by getting, you know, players and others who were affected and tested positive for the virus itself. between the college players and professionals, will we get through all of this? >> you know, sir, i think at

this point, we will. we are a week into december but that seems like a coin toss at midfield, pardon the pun, which is to say it's 50/50. the fcs level was canceled in its entirety. the fbs is playing but it's been start, stop, start, stop. the big ten started six weeks late. clemson, the number one player in the country, trevor lawrence, tested positive. they came to a grinding halt at least in terms of their progression. the pac-12 started late. it's not like any season we have ever seen but that's true across the board, from small business to stadiums alike. everybody's been affected. we are really kind of feeling our way in the dark, hoping we make it to the kitchen without knocking over too many things, if that makes sense. neil: i just wanted to hear again, since my son goes to clemson, you did say they have the number one rated football team in the planet, right? i did get that right? >> i wouldn't go on the record confirming that point. neil: very good. very good. >> without question from coaching to talent.

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channel where singling out industry goes and does it anything at all to ease a virus where cases are spiking not only in california but across the united states. who do you blame for this? how do you punish for this? are we at the point we had enough of this? see you at 4:00. right now my buddy charles payne is back. hey, charles. charles: neil, the national restaurant association came out with breaking news that half a million restaurants are in freefall right now. appropriate time for to you follow up. great seeing you, neil. yeah. good afternoon, folk, i'm charles payne. i'm back and this is making money. after a blistering november and strong start to december it looks like the market is pausing but beneath the surface it is absolutely on fire. it is collective bull market and will include initial public offerings from some of the hottest companies in this country. we'll see whether or not you want to ride the wave and how to do that. meanwhile investors are betting congress will get