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the discovery of the second cyber attack coming as we also learn that solarwinds was warned three years ago about their lax security protocols. we'll have more on that in a few moments. we'll be talking with cybersecurity expert morgan wright, and we're also joined by national security expert fred fleitz to talk up what america needs to be doing in the cyber warfare domain. also this evening brand new questions about the future of any new investigations into joe biden's son, hunter biden. attorney general bill barred today leaving his job on wednesday smacked down the process% of a special counsel. barr's decision coming as more lawmakers are raising concerns about hunter biden's overseas business deals and, importantly, his work in china. plus, after months of stonewalling and playing politics with the leaves of hard working americans, congress is set to vote on a $900 billion

china virus relief package, and a key part of the bill providing payments of up to $600 for most americans. we'll talk up all of that and -- we'll take up all of that and more later in the broadcast, joined by congressman andy biggs, judicial watch president tom fitton and radio host larry elder. we begin with our top story, the revelation that the texas-based i.t. firm that's called solarwinds was attacked by not one, but two separate groups, a finding that raises the prospect that two of america's adversaries could have been attacking our digital infrastructure at the very same time. a team at microsoft has dubbed this attack supernova. the attack began in late march and used malware to infect solarwinds' products. there are few details to when any companies or federal agencies were seriously affected by this particular attack or

just who exactly was behind it. now microsoft does say that a different threat actor carried out the attack and says the attack is likely unrelated to a suspected russian attack that used solarwinds software updates to infiltrate federal and corporate computers. now, cybersecurity firm first eye first discovered the breach, their ceo says all of this is the battle for cyber spas dominance. cyberspace dominance. >> i think these are folks that we responded to in the '90s, in the early 2000s. it's a continuing game in cyberspace. you know, there's a time in our lives where the domains that we had espionage in or the domains that we had combat in or differences in were land, sea, air, then space, and now we have cyber. this is just one campaign in a

long battle in cyberspace. gregg: it appears that america, however, has been on the back foot in the battle for cyberspace. fired dhs cyberrer security chief christopher krebs admitted this weekend it was his failures which ultimately allowed the solarwinds attack to go on undetected for many months. there's also a new report about a former adviser to solarwinds who claims to have warned the company way back in 2017 about just how vulnerable they were to a cyber attack. according to bloomberg, n. thornton trump -- no relation to president trump -- briefed solarwinds executives on that threat. he left the company a month later though claiming that leadership was not interested in making any impactful changes. joining me now to talk all of this up, former senior state department adviser morgan

wright. morgan, what do you make of this latest information? multiple adversaries, power hell attacks? parallel attacks? >> gregg, this suspiciously sounds like the conversation you and i had about opm a while back. we got the same set of threat actors inside our systems going undetected for months, if not years. there's indications the initial intrusion was in there for over a year, they did a dry run back in october. one of the biggest things we have to do is do damage assessment, how far did they actually get, what systems were actually touched, and right now we're -- in a sense, gregg, we're flying blind. we have no idea the extent, and now the revelation of a second actor, did they share information? is this still -- is this another russian threat actor? is this china? >> there's a lot of work to be done to assign attribution, but at the end of the day, gregg, we have been caught not only with our pants down, were been caught so far behind the lines right

now, this is just -- i can't even tell you, it's the equivalent of a nuclear bomb going off. it's just devastating, what this impact will have not just now, but for years to come. gregg: and what's the worst case scenario in terms of damage? i told our viewers a moment ago we don't know the full, tent of the damage done -- extent of the damage done not just to our government agencies, national security, but to corporations as well. what's your biggest fear on thatsome. >> yeah, you know, something i talked about before, this sounds suspiciously like what's called ipb, intelligence preparation of the battlefield. when you get into the national security agency, when you get into these places that have sensitive information about our critical infrastructure from banking to finance, to the energy grid, to water, my concern is that this information is being stockpiled for use at a future time. just the ongoing damage of information and data being stolen and the sensitive conversations happening at

government levels. that's one thing. but the collection of vulnerability data, gregg, that's what really concerns me about what's going to be used. and again, this has all the characteristics of what the united states does before we go to war. this is an issue that needs to be explored even further. gregg: this malware was served in the solarwinds' server software, and they were warned about it from one of their own people warning the executives that, essentially, you know, your security systems are like a hunk of swiss cheese, there's so many holds in them. -- holes in them. >> right. gregg: how can that be? isn't that sort of the definition of recklessness and incompetence by solarwinds? >> you know, gregg, this is the frustrating part. i work right now as the chief security adviser for sentinel i, we have seen this happen over and over again, or just substitute the name with a different company, and they have ignored the warnings, they've

ignored the red flags. in this case for solarwinds, they were looking at themselves even internally. even from this trump person, he's even looking at what if we had breached. we've now broken into the locksmith's store and gotten the keys to get into 18,000 homes without having to trip the alarms, without breaking glass. this is even worse than that. it's one thing for a company to get breached, it's another thing to use their technology to breach 18,000 or 500, whatever the damage or the extent may be, that's what's happened here. and what's going to happen i guarantee you, gregg, we're going to have congressional hearings, there will be some kind of legislation that is going to put government regulation on top of how we handle things very similar to sarbanes-oxley. we'll have a digital version of something like that soon. gregg: speaking of government regulations, this guy, christopher krebs, who was recently fired as head of the cybersecurity infrastructure security city known as cisa, he said, look, yeah, gee, i'm to

blame. well, he is to blame. but not just him, right? there are other people in our government who should have seen this coming a mile away. >> gregg, this is something i wrote about before and i've talked about what china's done to collect all this open source data, to collect data from intrusions. they've corrupted and compromised a lot of our cia assets that have gone into other countries. this was a massive intelligence failure with. why we did not have -- we relief too much on technical capabilities. we've got great technology, yeah, we do, but at the end of the day, you still need people listening in on conversations that are there in the room to say, guess what, guys? russia is getting ready to launch this, here's some information, here's how they're going to do it, we have lost the human asset program to get the human intelligence we need to discover and stop attack hike this. we simply cannot are lie on bits and bytes, we've got to put humans in there to help protect

and defend the national security of the united states. it can't all be done but computers. gregg: morgan wright, great talking to you again, thank you so much for the insight. coming up next, house minority leader kevin mccarthy raising the alarm about congressman eric swalwell. we'll take up what mccarthy wants fbi to do next with former cia analyst fred fleitz. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. [ engine revs ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. [ engine revs ] dcoughing's not new.. this woman coughs... and that guy does, too.

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head to golo.com now. that's g-o-l-o.com. gregg: breaking news, house republicang for an investigation into the fbi and justice department for failing to turn over key text messages from from trump-hating fbi agent peter strzok. congressman devin nuñes says those messages would have played a key role in a republican investigation into obamagate. >> i mean, this is cheerily lying and obstructing -- clearly lying and obstructing congress. this is information we asked for numerous times. we sat in meetings with doj and fbi and they sat there and said, oh, there's no more information, no more text messages. these were the text messages we really needed to run a proper investigation. the russia hoax was mostly about covering up hillary clinton's e-mails that were clearly classified and that were spread

out all over the world. likely all of our adversaries had them, and i think they developed this hoax to hide it from the american people and the '16 campaign. just the impossible happened, that is that donald trump won and then, luckily, we were able to uncover this and expose it. i just hop people pay -- hope people pay the price for it. gregg: house minority leader kevin mccarthy continues to raise deep concerns about eric swalwell's role on house intelligence committee. take a listen to what mccarthy had to say after being briefed about swalwell's ties to a suspected chinese spy. >> the one answer that i i got out of that briefing was there is no way eric swalwell should continue to serve on the intel committee. and the challenge here is the leaders of both parties are the only people who select to go on the intel committee. that is why today, maria, what i'm going to request? that every single minute on the house excellence committee --

member on the house intelligence committee get the exact psalm briefing from the fbi that i did. because if this individual is sitting on this committee, eric swalwell, they've got to know the background of what has gone on. gregg: joining me now to talk about it, fred fleitz, former cia analyst, former e chief of staff at national security council, he's now president and ceo of the center for security policy. fred, always great to see you. how does a guy like eric swalwell who's like this unknown junior city councilman suddenly get elected, apparently with the help of this suspected chinese spy, to congress, and he gets placed on one of the most important committees of all, the intelligence committee, with absolutely no experience in national security or intelligence? >> it's very strange. i was on the house intelligence committee staff for five years. it's a very hard committee for congressmen to get on. they tend to have either a lot of senior few or some type of

national security credential. he was elected in 2012, fang actively-ed raise money to get -- helped raise money to get him elected. he was put on the intelligence committee in january 2014 while he was still friends with fang. and i think we have to ask questions about dud fang ask him to get -- did fang ask him to get on the committee, did she maybe coach him or help him get on the committee? we know they still had some type of relationship. maybe it was just a friendly relationship, we don't know, but there's a lot that has to be fleshed out. gregg: well, he's been asked directly, did you have a romantic or sexual relationship with her, and he wouldn't say. it sort of suggests, oh, gee, that's classified. since when is sex classified? that's beyond me. but, look, you some -- you seem to think there should be background checks on people this congress before they're put on the intel committee. i gotta tell ya, fred, i just

assumed there were. >> when i was on the staff, i had to submit to a fbi background investigation. they talked to my neighbors and friends, they looked through my personal history, they checked out my finances. members of congress get access to classified information just by the virtue of being elected. there's no investigation. and i understand congress doesn't want to be investigated by the executive branch. it could be done by the capitol police which is part of congress. it is just too easy for a foreign intelligence service to get actionable intelligence by compromise manager a member of congress. this swalwell thing, it's the straw that broke the camel's back. gregg: you know, so here is this congressman sitting on the intelligence committee receiving classified, top secret information, right anything and he's having a relationship -- right? and he's having a relationship with a suspected russian spy. compare that to donald trump jr.

who simply had a half hour meeting with a russian lawyer with a bunch of other people in attendance, and the media and democrats all had donald trump jr., you know, arrested, prosecuted and thrown in the brink. the double standard here is conspicuous, isn't it? >> that's right. there was a one hour meeting that donald trump jr. had with a russian who may or may not have been a spy. i don't think she was a spy, frankly. but the meeting came and gone, nothing happened to it. swalwell had a relationship with this chinese spy, a. woman we know is a chinese spy, who left the country after she was under investigation for years. and, gregg, who opportunitied her off that this is being investigated? i don't want to say swalwell did, but, you know, that question has to be asked. gregg: yeah. because she's fled. i want to ask you, speaking of

spying, about the latest series of cyber attacks. may have been now, the latest information we're getting, it may have been simultaneous two attacks run parallel. your expertise is certainly in national security, cua, defense intel -- cia, defense intel agency, the state department. what's your assessment of these attacks? >> you know, i'm just stunned at the incredible incompetence of the u.s. government, of multiple agencies to rely on a single company and their software which had a patch that was basically distributing a back door to hackers. i mean, nothing was done to prevent that. and when the back door was opened, the u.s. government didn't know for a long time. it was discovered by an outside firm. heads have to roll over this. there have to be new procedures to make sure this doesn't happen again, and i have to wonder how many other back doors like this

exist right now in government computers that we don't know about? gregg: yeah, i mean, we have our own government agency who's supposed to be all over this. i e mentioned it in the last segment, cybersecurity infrastructure security agency. i mean, how could they have missed it unless they're utterly blind and incompetent? >> we spent billions of dollars on cia, dhs and dni, organizations that are supposed to protect us from hackers. billions and billions of dollars, thousands of employees. you asked the right question, what were they doing? gregg: yeah. fred fleitz, great to see you, as always. thanks very much. we'd like to hear your thoughts on all of this. shower your comments and follow lou on twitter @loudobbs, like him on facebook and follow him on instagram and parler @loudobbstonight. a programming note, historian victor davis hanson,

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♪ ♪ dprg greg welcome back, i'm gregg jarrett sitting in for the vacationing lou dobbs. the crisis at the southern border worsened in the month of november. encounters with illegal immigrants along the del rio sector of the u.s./mexico border up 182% from november of last year, just under 8,000 illegals were arrested in that very sector last month, a 343% year-over-year increase. well, the battle for the white house continues in the courts. the trump campaign continuing

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andy biggs, chairman of the house freedom caucus, also a member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, great to see you, as always. what can you tell us about the meeting? as i understand it, it was you, matt gaetz, i think louie gohmert was there, jim jordan. when's the plan? what was -- what's the plan? what was discussed? >> we had a put good crew there, even more than you named. i'll let them come out on their own and say who was there, but i will tell you this, we discussed process. that's one of the key things here because in 2017 when maxine waters tried to prevent trump electors from being seated, she didn't do it right. but in 2005 when you actually had a contest, we saw how it was done, what was approved by the then-sitting vice president and the way it worked. so you have to understand the process, you have to also review the election issues like you just it rated about

pennsylvania, you have to know what's going on in arizona and georgia, nevada and wisconsin, michigan. and you need to find out what's going on and make sure you understand that. and i think that was the discussion at a high level. gregg: congressman, i'm no expert on the rules, but as i read them today, in order to even entertain a debate on a challenge, you've got to have somebody on the other side of the capitol building, a united states senator, who will consent and join e in and give approval. do you have such a senator? >> we think that we probably do. we are going to let them headache their own announcement publicly but, yes, with think that we're going to actually be able to contest this, as you say, with at least one objection from the house, and we'll have dozens of objectors in the house, and at least one in the senate, and we think we'll have more than that. and that will trigger the debate, the debate process. gregg: and then after the debate

concludes, what next? there's a vote, right? >> that's exactly right. so what happens, you're sitting in joint session, you have the objections from house members, you slip back to your respective chambers, you have your two hours maximum of debate, then you have a vote, and that vote is in many ways determinative of whether those electors get seated or not. gregg: well, with democrats controlling the house, it's not going to succeed, is it? >> well, you know, you never know, gregg, and that's why you've got to run through the tape. we've got to push true that, and and we'll -- through that, and we'll wait and see what happens on january 6th. gregg: i would imagine president trump was in if on this meeting today and is onboard. >> we had the pleasure of his company for a bit, that's correct. gregg: any more details about what his attitude was? >> you know how president trump is. he's a fighter.

knows that the country is actually at stake. he, like so many of us, believes that this election was stolen, and he wants to fight through it. there are literally 70 million plus who new this was a -- who think this was a stolen election, and president trump wants to preserve this nation and knows we have to preserve the institutions, the most important up front being the voting institution. so he's all in, i believe, and he's a fighter through and through. gregg: all right. congressman, will the me switch to the other subject i broached in the introduction, and that is illegal border crossings have skyrocketed since the election. biden has vowed to expand daca, stop construction of the border wall, raise the refugee limit sevenfold and make it a whole lot easier for asylum seekers. is that the reason for the sudden increase of illegal migrants heading to our border? is he creating another border

crisis? >> yes and yes. the incentives that he touted while he was campaigning, and you just got some of them. i mean, he's going to put a moratorium on any kind of repatriation for a hundred days. this is just, this actual provides the draw factor, it's the incentive for people to come. cartels are now advertising again. they're putting together caravans. so, yes, it is because of joe biden's stated plans. and number two, it will create a crisis, and if you remember from two years ago, we had incredible humanitarian crises on the border. don't be surprised if you see that in the spring, and i wouldn't be surprised if we hit 100,000 apprehensions in december, and that's not going to include all the getaways, those who make it into the country without being caught. gregg: congress is poised now to pass a $900 billion corona relief package after after months of negotiation.

i find it curious but not surprising that last september republicans offered $1.1 trillion, nancy pelosi said it's not enough. then the white house came back and said we'll raise it to $1.if 8 trillion, nancy pelosi said@not enough. now -- said it's not enough. now all of a sudden after the election, oh, gee, $900 billion is enough. isn't it true that nancy pelosi did not want to do anything that would help donald trump in the election, so she let americans -- millions, tens of millions of americans -- suffer financially for that narrow political reason, and it's disgraceful but nancy pelosi? >> yes, it's despicable. that's exactly what happened. this was all about power for her. we offered what would have been an almost unanimous bill out of the house to are purpose hundreds of billions -- to

repurpose hundreds of billions of dollars to go to the ppp program. that could have been passed very easily late last summer, well before the elections, but she would not have any of it. and so now we get down to this point and it's like, well, you know somewhat? the election's over, trump didn't get a victory on this, and so she's willing to move quite a bit. but she's still getting a lot of what she wants in the sense of state and local bailouts getting getting -- governments getting bailed out. this was for one reason only, to try to undermine president trump and not give him a political victory. that's what this was about. gregg: nancy let them eat cake pelosi. congressman andy biggs, thank you. coming up next, attorney general barr has two days left in office and seems to be wiping his hands clean of any investigations of hunter biden or charges of election fraud. we'll take it up after the break with judicial watch president

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gregg: breaking news, the first moderna vaccine seens being administered today only three days after being authorized for emergency use. with the vaccine being rolled out in addition to pfizer's vaccine, the federal government plans to distribute nearly 8 million if doses -- 8 million doses this week alone.

attorney general william barr announcing new charges in the lockerbie bombing, the announcement coming two days before he leaves office. the attorney general made clear at his news conference he has no plans of using his final days to appoint a special counsel into either election fraud or hunter biden's corrupt overseas business dealings. joining us now, tom fitton, president of judicial watch. so we heard, you know, biden's spokesperson, jen sack key, said, oh, a president biden will not talk to his attorney general about the case involving his son. that's a subterfuge, tom. the question is not whether biden would talk to his attorney general about it, the question is, is there a conflict of interest, and under federal regulations -- you know this, i know you've read them -- regarding the appointment of

special counsel even the potential conflict or the appearance of a conflict demands the appointment. so, i mean, isn't this a per se conflict of interest? >> oh, it sure would be certainly under the standards by which mueller were appointed which or which were even, which were nonsensical even at the time. he doesn't need to talk to his attorney general about this since it's been wired. the justice department under attorney general barr protected joe biden. do we think that a justice department under joe biden wouldn't protect joe biden? they stalled it in a way so that joe biden won't get accountability for the next four years if he's installed, because the justice department rules are they don't prosecute sitting presidents for somewhat obvious reasons. even if the misconduct predates his ascension into the presidency. this is a rule of law crisis once again. the criminal class that is too often in control here in

washington, d.c. got a free pass during the election. for the last two years, really, as it relates to joe biden. and now we're going to be facing a rule of law crisis where we've got credible evidence that the potential next president of the united states was involved in rico-type activity. gregg: you know, and jen psaki's statement is so disingenuous, it's actually laughable, you know, that biden's not going to talk to his attorney general. well, he doesn't need to. i mean, you know, what attorney general is going to duty the son of his boss? i mean, talk about job suicide, he'll be an outcast at cabinet meetings, won't even be invited. and, i mean, again, coming back to the conflict of interest, think about this: the son of an incoming president will be judged by the president's own justice department. i mean, this just reaches absurd

proportions. >> if the justice department isn't willing to do anything now, and i don't think it will even under the new acting attorney general gunning later this week -- gunning later this week, the president should appoint a special counsel separately. he has inherent authority to appoint a special prosecutor, and he can do it and, frankly, i don't trust the justice department and the fbi. frankly, any investigation of joe biden should also target why it is the justice department and the fbi protected him and his family for the last few years. gregg: yeah. let's play what if here. what if the attorney general and department of justice in a biden administration decides not to prosecute hunter biden for anything from tax vegas, to fraud, to conspiracy, to radiocoe violation, who's going to believe that was fair or and objective? so it's really self-ing destructive, isn't it? >> what really bothered me today, gregg, about attorney general barr's statement was the

focus on hunter biden. as if that's the issue. hunter biden is just one of the members of a conspiracy as the evidence shows that we have from e-mails and other documents and as the testimony shows from those who have come forward. so it's not about hunter biden, it's about joe biden. joe biden, according to the e-mails, was the been fishery of these illiteracies deals -- illicit deals. he needs to be the target of any serious investigation. and attorney general barr's unwillingness to do that is about as disappointing behavior as i can remember in a republican attorney general, for sure. gregg: and what's so insidious is that biden refuses to answer questions, because all of the reporters are prescreened, and it's all choreographed,9 and the answers are preordained. biden doesn't even pick the reporters that get to ask the questions, it's done by his

staff here. and nobody to date has said, mr. president-elect, did you meet with tony bobulinski in the beverly hills hilton this 2017 to discuss chinese business deals? are you the big guy? nobody's asked that question because biden is so protected by his aides and the media that, you know, he's understandlated. insulated. >> the justice department is the one to be asking -- the fact is that barr didn't do anything prior to the election. it isn't a matter of making statements about joe biden or hunter biden, it's a mart of allowing the justice department and the fbi to do the job they're supposed to do. and all the evidence is they were prevented from investigating that. there's no rule that allows that to take place. this is, this is lawlessness that's been taking place the last few years where there have been illegal targeting of innocents like president trump and general flynn and

protecting, protection of people like hunter biden. we just got an e-mail, gregg, the other day showing in 2016 you had obama state department officials including ambassador yovanovitch talking about the gravy train from ukraine to d.c. involving burisma, podesta and the clinton foundation. gregg: right. >> they've known all of this for years, and they've covered it up. in fact, trump was punished for raising questions about it with a coup impeachment. gregg: i want to get your reaction to bill barr's statement today, the cia in the trump-russia collusion case, which is utterly preposterous. here's what he told kimberly strassel. even prior to naming mr. durham special counsel, mr. barr had come to the conclusion that he didn't see any improper foreign government activity before july of 2016. the cia stayed in its lane. that's just not true, is it,

tom? i mean, for example, by his own admission john brennan, the cia director in 2016, said he was the one who was first on to this phony collusion case. he was the ins grate or. and then the he -- ins grater. -- instigate or. and then he fed information to harry reid, and the onslaughten sued. >> now we're down to staying in your lane, allowing the ci e a to target candidates for the presidency with disinformation that they know came from partisan operatives working in league, according to their own information, with the russians? it's really inned credible, and it shows you that this is why brennan has been laughing at us, or gregg. he's been laughing anytime anyone mentions the fact that he might be indicted or be subject to prosecution. on though there's ed -- even though there's evidence he gave false testimony in at least one or two instances to congress about this issue. i, it's -- he doesn't, the

attorney general of the united states wasn't entered in investigating it, why would we think -- excuse me, durham was? freudian nip -- slip there. gregg: tom fitton, thank you very much. radical leftist push the boundaries at a posh private school in manhattan. we'll take up the school's new anti-racism manifesto with radio we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa

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another demand, pay the student debt of black staff members upon their hiring. these faculty members also want to require courses focusing on black liberation and challenges to white supremacy. joining me now, larry elder, host of the larry elder show on the salem radio network. my favorite, though, was awe e bollish courses that black students don't do well in. [laughter] so i don't know what that is, but is that biology, chemistry, calculus, trigonometry, you know, the kind of stuff you need to know to prepare you for college? some of these parents are really angry e about this, larry. they're calling it virtue signaling and white shaming. what say you? >> well, gregg, thank you for having me. whoever said that compound interest was the greatest force in the universe never encountered white guilt, because that's what this is all about. [laughter] you know, i was just looking at

a gallup poll, 2007, when obama was running for the presidency, and they asked whether americans would never vote for a black person, would never vote for a female, referring to hillary, would never vote for a mormon, referring to mitt romney, would never vote for a man who would be 72 or years old when he became president, referring to john mccain. 5-7% said they would never vote for a black person, 11% if a female, 24% for a mormon, 42% said they would never vote for somebody who would be 72 years old when he became president. obama had a lower threshold, a smaller disadvantage than the three white people. racism has never been a less significant factor in american life, and in this school really wants to advance the conditions of black people, they would be talking about the fact that 70% of black kids enter the world without a father in the home, and obama even once said a kid raised without a father is five times more likely to be poor and

commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, twenty times more likely to end up in jail. the question ought to be why have we gone from 25% of black kids born out of wedlock to 75% 'vwe'vlleedowowenenen abaonnd th sponrelirebilibili eve havg diusscon abosconboonbo k222choo2 lte 0or oor kidss can d mhhhol n graatde lev lev. is ionnse.nse. nse. ndssbout sf-elteemes ne mved m p mlolololfterftft poa a sfter studydy shody swwwthaha ,ve iievever nr,r,r,r, hhaveherig sesteemteha tha thad eoys bndsiananoys. b so i tf gll isoak blala peopleopleeelopleeeleeed about a emselves, they, alr, ady adyo. u' makingngss worth worthhorthhh e ndescendesing king k ofg k msms. .hiss americame. wo har h helieveel in you yelf,y fini hniigighool, dol,'t h,av'ta oside off wedlock, get married before you have a kid,

you will not be poor. this is the message that white liberals ought to be giving but they're not. gregg: larry,al quickly, i read your column, it's excellent, and you pointed out the media research survey found that 36% of joe biden voters had to idea about the hunter biden story. naturally, because it was -- >> that's right. gregg: -- by the media. they hud -- they hid it. i've only got about 30 seconds left. do you think that act of sup prosecution by the main stream media affected the outcome? >> absolutely. that same poll also found out that about 5% of biden voters said had they known about the story, they would not have voted for him. that would have been enough to swing the election in georgia, in michigan, in pennsylvania and in wisconsin. so, hell, yeah. they put their thumb on the scale, and they got biden elected. gregg: people should read your columns and listen to your syndicated radio show. both are excellent. larry, great to see you. coming up next, well,

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