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work with. like i said, you are one of the best and people do very well when they listen to you. i appreciate it. small caps, everyone on the show loves small caps. liz claman, i remember when the russell was the worst performing sector. now it's sizzling. liz: yeah. i remember 13 years ago, was it 13? okay. forget it. we're not going down memory lane. but the russell always surprises, let's put it that way. thanks, charles. the dow and the s&p, yes, they are under pressure. russell's looking good. but apple is helping the nasdaq drive its way to a record close. if it happens, it will be the 54th of this year. this despite the fact that two of the tech-dominated index's biggest titans stand accused of secretly working together to crush any legal challenges that come their way. what each side is saying at this hour and how their stocks are trading. moderna's covid vaccine, yes, is now making its way to hospitals across the nation, soon to be followed by new
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stimulus funds, but what do hospitals really need right now and the new mystery strain overseas threatening an already dire situation here in the u.s. universal health services' incoming ceo mark miller, he oversees 27 hospitals across the nation, a cluster in california as well, he is here. just one day after tesla's s&p debut, a new competitor is wading into the electric vehicle race. how canoe plans to sail ahead of elon musk's empire and its potential new competition from apple, could it deliver a boom or blow to one of 2020's most charged-up sectors. could president trump's hard stance on china be in for the hollywood treatment under team biden? imax chief rich gelfond talks the future of relations between tinsel town and the far east's top economic superpower. first, we've got a fox business alert. can we officially call 2020 the year of the retail investor?
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the individual investor? bank of america's merrill edge self-directed platform seeing a spike of 140% in trading volume this year versus last year. popular retail investor app robinhood, we have been talking a lot about them, but when the merrill guys come along, these are more the old school traders, boy, you can say that. it's really strong. robinhood says daily visits are up 260% since january. it's no surprise some of the most popular stocks traded on robinhood include apple, tesla and microsoft, and if they invested in them, you can see how well they have done. but other names on the most popular list may surprise you. american airlines has been very popular. that one's in the red, down 45%. plug power moving higher by 1,024%. go pro up 101%. is the retail investor back and are traders, our floor show traders are about to say what might be their favorite stocks in 2021.
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tom hayes, phil flynn. tom, let me start with you. take a guess. which stocks do you think will grab the retail investor's attention next year? >> well, liz, they have two sides of the market. first and foremost, they outperformed the professionals coming off the march meltdown in the markets. national bureau of economic research put out a report and they said not only did they not panic, they did not have margin calls, they were a stabilizing factor in the markets because they were buying what professionals were selling and they were being greedy when others were fearful. so they won. they also bought the high-flying tech stocks. they bought tesla, they bought amazon, peloton and zoom. that worked as well. these are younger investors, they have a longer time horizon to make it back. they are not scarred by the great financial crisis or the tech wreck so they have no bias and i think they will continue on this trend in 2021. i think they will be going for the disruptive tech ipo which can be a little risky because
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buying stocks at 100 times sales doesn't generally work out well over the long term. there are a few exceptions. but if they continue along with that bargain hunting and add to the cruise stocks, the airlines but maybe add other sectors like banks, like defense stocks, like energy, they could have sustainable gains in the coming years that can last a lifetime. this is a unique opportunity and i think they are well positioned for it, liz. liz: okay. delta airlines, phil, i would imagine delta airlines, which i mean, we fly it all the time, i think they are best in class, they are still down about i want to say 64% year over year. well, the year high was $62.48. you would definitely not buy it at the high there. but what other stocks do you think, we hear about docusign has been so popular but again, that's run up. at what point do you think the individual investor looks at some names that are so beaten down, they've got to come back
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at some point? >> you know, i think using delta airline is the perfect example. in fact, when delta was getting crushed in the beginning of the crisis, i had a lot of phone calls about delta and other airlines saying hey, is it time to buy. to be honest with you, you would have to be a little concerned to say that because some of the firms could have gone bankrupt if the government didn't come in and bail them out. but from a long-term perspective, these guys were smart to look at that. but tell you what, this is a new young, hip investor, remember we used to look at the retail guys and say if they're going that way, we want to go the other way. maybe they have earned their trading stripes and we need to start following them. i think in the new year, based on what they did last year, i think they will pick stocks that normally we would look at with a skeptical eye. for example, coin base right now. look at the crypto space right now. this is going crazy. big money is coming into this and you are going to get an ipo
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of the first crypto exchange next year. i know based off what we have seen from previous ipos, these robinhood guys are going to be all over that. the other thing i think, you know, a lot of these robinhood guys are younger and hipper than me. i don't even know, do you use hip anymore? is that -- well, anyway, i think they will be looking at the gains, right. there's an ipo coming this year which is very popular with the younger set, they know these gains, there's a lot of developers on here. i think that's going to be hot. your traditional ones like activision will be really hot with the robinhood crowd. liz: okay. yeah. well, we will be interested to see but it is definitely a change of sort of genetics when it comes to these retail investors who for so long were sitting on the sidelines. they're in and in many cases, making decent picks. gentlemen, thank you. we have breaking news right now. joe biden, president-elect, taking questions from reporters in wilmington, delaware. he just told reporters that the trump administration needs to
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admit and say that russia was behind the solarwinds hack that has impacted numerous government agencies, including the nuclear agency and the treasury department. can we see how solarwinds is trading? it's gotten hammered over the past couple of days since the reveal but i will say that there was a day where it was actually doing pretty darned well. solarwinds at the moment, let me check for you guys, it's down 1.1%. over the past couple of weeks, 1.18%, it has just, well, actually since about december 20th, it's just gotten hammered here. but joe biden also giving his holiday speech and wishing best of luck to the first responders and to health care workers and thanking them as he continues to make remarks, we will continue to monitor them. two tech titans allegedly got into bed together in a bid to head off antitrust actions.
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these are two tech titans that hate each other. according to the "wall street journal" google and facebook agreed to team up in case they were ever probed about their pact to work together in online advertising. those details pouring in from a lawsuit filed last week by ten states against google. let's bring jackie deangelis in. she has been looking at this case. it's not as if the stocks are getting completely hammered, jackie, but boy, i'll tell you, this looks like dare we say co-conspiratorship? jackie: good afternoon, liz. it may be more of a headline here but it is an unlikely partnership, right, because google and facebook, they joined together, teamed up, against this possible antitrust suit, according to the "journal." the allegation is this, the ten a.g.s say google and facebook made a deal in 2018 where facebook would not compete with google's advertising tools and then in return, facebook would get some special treatment when it used them. judge for yourself. now, according to the documents obtained by the "journal" the
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two companies agreed to quote, cooperate and assist one another if they ever faced investigation into this pact to work on online advertising together. now, there has been a lot of antitrust concerns over big tech generally for some time, right, that it's dominant, its influence and the lack of competition makes these companies way too powerful, and now google and facebook are making a deal like this, it definitely seems questionable, though the companies say these deals are commonplace in the industry. google and facebook are also rebuffing the allegations in the suit, specifically, claiming the bid on advertising actually promotes choice for the advertisers. facebook's chief operating officer, sheryl sandberg, the "journal" says, is the one that signed the deal with google and with respect to the draft version of the suit, and also, it quotes an e-mail from her to ceo mark zuckerberg and others saying quote, this is a big deal strategically. now, fox business received a comment back from google, a
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spokesperson there, who says quote, a.g. paxson's ad tech claims are inaccurate. we don't manipulate the auction and facebook's participation in open bidding doesn't prevent the company from participating in header bidding or any other similar auction. but remember, the pandemic took these big tech companies off the hot seat this year, at least a little bit, but that's not to say there's not going to be pressure next year, liz, and these companies need to brace for it. liz: boy, it's interesting to see bitter rivals teaming together. let's use teaming. okay. thank you very much, jackie deangelis. by the way, facebook down about 2%. google down 1%. all right. we've got this fox business alert to stocks that are popping and dropping. there's a huge guessing game in full swing at this hour. will a peloton branded elliptical be next? okay. this is wishful thinking on behalf of me, but this after peloton announced it's acquiring gym equipment maker precore for
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$320 million. precore has huge manufacturing operations in north carolina and washington state, which could be mighty useful to peloton and its miles-long wait list for its connected bikes and treadmills. look at nautilus. as peloton jumps 11%, investors are scooping up shares of precor rival nut lus autilus in the ho will be in play at one point. already up 1,171% year to date, nautilus adding another 13.33% to its gains, standing at $22.11. fitbit unable to catch investors' feverish buying of fitness names. it's getting slammed after australia rejected the concessions google made in an effort to appease antitrust regulators that its purchase of the wearable tracker could not crush or would not, rather, crush competition. we've got fitbit down another 4.7%. and 24 hours after the mega-headline broke right here on the show, actually, that
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apple plans to build an autonomous car by 2024, two stocks are going parabolic. luminar up 4.33% and velodyne up 7.9% on hopes these leaders in l lidar, the pulse lasers which allow driverless cars to see obstacles in their path, will get the call from apple to partner and supply its four-wheeled endeavor. although who knows with apple, you know, they think quote, different. maybe it's a five-wheel defren r endeavor. shares of colonnade acquisition corp rocketing 40% right now. the blank check company announced a merger deal that will take lidar sensor startup ouster public. not exactly sure when, but nice mo move. to california's intensive care units. they are maxed out at this hour.
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the desperate need for ppe and medical staff including nurses, doctors and orderlies getting to the breaking point, if not already there. i've got the incoming ceo of universal health services. what his hospitals in the golden state are doing to cope and what they really need from the federal government to survive now. 48 minutes away. we will hear that closing bell. in the meantime, the dow is down 171. "the claman countdown" is coming right back.
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liz: the u.s. now has nearly twice as many hospitalizations for covid than at any point during the pandemic. look at the spring and summer peaks, compared to yesterday's record. yesterday's record, 115,000. back in the summer, 59,000. california setting up field hospitals as icu bed capacity reaches 0% across the entire state. bed shortages of course nationwide but already overwhelmed treating covid patients, now hospitals must start vaccinating health care workers.
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universal health services hospitals got the pfizer vaccine and they are on the verge of getting the moderna vaccine as well. what a time to be handed the reins as the new ceo, but that's exactly what universal health services president mark miller faces. we are in the midst of the worst pandemic, mark, in generations. you will take full control of the company's 27 hospitals, 300 plus behavioral health hospitals. let's do triage here. what's your first priority? >> thank you, liz. i think our first priority like other hospitals is to make sure that we are handling things with the pandemic, making sure that the hospitals are a safe environment for our patients. when this first started, we made sure to segregate at the hospital so that we have separate covid units in the hopes we would not be transmitting the disease at the hospital locations. thus far, we have been very successful with that. at this point, we are obviously moving on to the vaccination process and we are following cdc
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guidelines. we have set up clinics at all of our 27 acute care hospitals and many of our behavioral hospitals will be acquiring the vaccine and dispensing it as well. liz: to california, you have five hospitals in the egolden state. i need to know what the status is of what's going on, your bed limitations. we hear cedars sinai has a portable morgue outside at this point. california is in dire straits. what are you seeing? >> we certainly are seeing elevated rates in our icus, but nothing like what just mentioned at cedars. we are able to handle the volume we have been getting. in addition to our icu capacity, we have done certain things throughout the year to increase capacity for intensive patients in other parts of the hospital, working with the state of california and department of health to make sure we can
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handle everything that we get. but right now, while very busy, we are able to handle everything. we have enough ppe and our staff have really stepped up and are doing a marvelous job in dealing with our local patient population in each of our areas in california. liz: let me get to that aspect of staffing. we have watched certainly in new york where governor cuomo was begging nurses and doctors who were retired to come back out of retirement and help, which they did nationwide. we had health care workers coming to new york in the beginning of this pandemic. but talk about what you need from the federal government, whether it is with vaccine distribution or manpower, womanpower help for orderlies, nurses, surgeons, you know, people who are intubating these patients. >> i think the federal government has done a good job in trying to meet the needs of communities as they get to a
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higher level, where the need has intensified. we are in 37 states so we have a unique view of the situation because one area intensifies, the federal government tries to take staff from one area, move them to another, and that might affect us both ways. but they have been very helpful and honestly, what we need right now is more staff, and we are reaching out to folks that have worked in our system before and trying to do what we can to keep our current staff and thus far, we have been fairly successful with that. liz: before we let you go, i'm interested to know about the vaccine deployment. in the latest bill that the government finally passed into law for relief from this covid situation, $69 billion for distribution. when are you getting the moderna vaccine, are you aware of a date, a time on that, then how much do you expect to see from the government? how will that be distributed?
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>> yeah, so as you said earlier, we have already gotten the pfizer vaccine at many of our locations and we have actually received the moderna vaccine already in a couple of places and we expect to be getting that at further locations soon. this is all being handled state by state. so each state is getting a differential indication a alloc don't know exactly what we're getting until they tell us. that is rolling out currently. liz: new ceo marc miller, talk about baptism by fire. good luck to you. your stock is up 27% year to date. investors are happy certainly. just keep your team and your workers healthy and come back and visit us again, because we are focused very much on this story. thank you so much for joining us. canoe encountering some waves after making a big splash early in the session, in its first day of trade as a public
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company. coming up, the course the newest ev maker on the street is charting to take on workhorse tesla and potentially the tech giant of all giants, apple. canoe vice-chair joins us next live when t"the claman countdow" returns. the dow is down 180. i have an idea for a trade. oh yeah, you going to place it? not until i'm sure. why don't you call td ameritrade for a strategy gut check? what's that? you run it by an expert, you talk about the risk and potential profit and loss. could've used that before i hired my interior decorator. voila! maybe a couple throw pillows would help. get a strategy gut check from our trade desk. ♪
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liz: the latest spac on the market is looking to take a charge out of tesla and a bite out of apple. ev maker canoo under the ticker goev opened at $22.75, pulling back just a bit right now by about 5.5% on its first day of trade. the bulls are buzzing over this company's announcement that its multi-purpose delivery vehicle called the mpdv which is set to roll off production lines in 2022, could soon own the delivery van market by pushing
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the limits of customizable vehicles. canoo executive chairman tony aquila is such a big believer, he's invested a major chunk of money and time into this. tony, big day today to go public with canoo. make your pitch to our viewers on the canoo concept, which is basically an electric van built on a skateboard type platform that's totally customizable. >> yeah, so the thing that makes canoo so amazing is that what the team had done, they really designed this from the inside out, so it's a pure guide by wire and brake by wire platform. when i looked at -- i looked at investing in all the companies that were coming to life over since 2016, and i think canoo, they actually achieved a major breakthrough. hundreds of millions of dollars
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have now been pouring into it even before the spac, so it's a little bit different than most of the spacs. but what we decided to concentrate on is high productivity platforms with purpose, so use cases that are very specific because if you think about, you know, the next three, four car generations, we are going to move from fossil fuels, you know, today 98%, to, you know, in four generations from now, it will be -- 80% will be ecological platforms and it will be the first time that vehicles won't be a cost center, they actually can be a productivity and profit center. liz: yeah. and you say profit center, let's just cut to the chase. these vans can be businesses, as in food trucks. i love how you brought in roy choi, he is famous for his food trucks. he basically invented the high-class food truck with the korean mexican tacos. i loved how you in the video unveil it on your website.
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but no more, you know, the fuels that people usually need to heat up the food, that's gone, and in essence, you don't smell that propane, it's all electric. but what else can you offer beyond a pizza truck or one of these food trucks? what customizable levels have you reached? >> so what we concentrated on very aggressively was if i want a vehicle for me as a business owner, small business, medium or large, i need it configured for me. what we did was we concentrated on design because a bunch come from the aftermarket side where we dealt with the oems and built the company up, took it public and so on, and we serviced all them but what we realized is a lot of times, the oems design vehicles that really did not get really very specific to use cases like you see in heavy equipment. so we said look, small business is going to go mobile and if it can go mobile at the most
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cost-efficient ecologically sensitive platform, you know, i can give 450 square feet inside that van. liz: yeah. and i saw you can get 700 pizza boxes. believe me, i watched the whole thing. i found it fascinating. i do have to ask you about apple. yesterday it broke in this show that reuters reports that apple is going to go into the electric vehicle market. but it's not just apple. you look at ford, for example, the legacy guys, ford has the transit connect van. at some point they will make that thing electrified. how do you beat those companies at this game? >> yeah, so look, if you think back to kind of post-world war ii, how many oem, car oems were there in each continent? it was a big demand cycle. so here, you have us all deciding to make the move from fossil to ecological so you just have so much demand that no one can meet the demand. of course, there will be the new
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and old oligopoly and lot of partnerships and joint ventures that occur along the way. liz: it's great to have you, tony, on a day where canoo has gone public via the hennessy acquisition corp spac. you are the -- i lost count, i swear -- we are looking at the 243rd spac so listen, not all of them can survive. we wish you guys the best of luck. thank you so much. by the way, as we mentioned, tesla officially joined the s&p yesterday. you know about that. to mark that, i launched a video of my excellent adventure, tesla model y test drive that i just took in paramus, new jersey. we went -- i went and i sat there trying to shoot this thing and i gave you the -- look at the clouds overhead, because that is the all glass ceiling. can't be glass. whatever it is. it's fascinating. we launched this in just a couple minutes all across the platforms of snap and tiktok,
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♪ >> nothing good is borne from life. being great is not what you think. liz: oh, yeah, wonder woman 1984, making its u.s. debut christmas day in theaters and on hbo max. already released in china this past weekend, the initial numbers show the tentpole earned
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$18.8 million. that includes $3.8 million from imax screen showings. imax, which has some 680 screens in china, did take a hit at the beginning of the year, when china shuttered its movie theaters as the deadly coronavirus outbreak swept across wuhan all around the globe. but in a stunning boomerang move, imax business is back in the middle kingdom. we are joined in a fox business exclusive by rich gelfond, ceo of entertainment tech giant imax. rich, great to have you. tell us what's happening on the ground in china at your big screen imax theaters. it appears that there is a major rebound. >> yeah, it's great to see you, even though virtually, liz. hopefully soon in person. so you know, i would say that it's very easy to lose perspective when you're living like we are in new york or l.a. or in a pandemic-stricken territory, but once it passes over, things have returned much
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faster than normal, so in asia in general, but china specifically, people are going to restaurants, they're not wearing masks. the movie business is really good. so imax during the third quarter, we were at 100% of where we were the year before, in the fourth quarter without hollywood films, we are at 75%. that's with 75% restrictions for wonder woman, which you just referred to, we did 20% of the box office but only 1% of the screens. so when people can get out and people can socialize, they want to go back to some sort of normal life and i think they want to do things, they want to enjoy. i think they want to go back -- liz: that's amazing. 100% back to pre-pandemic levels in china. you have also struck a deal with a chinese organization that you are going to have 12 new screens there.
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the chinese movie goer is really a rich source of opportunity. you spotted that, what, more than two decades ago. you have watched this and jumped all over it. tell us what really may happen, you expect, when it comes to the new movies that are coming out. they tend to censor a lot of these movies or at least ask for tweaks on them. >> so actually, that is an issue but you know, that's been a situation we have dealt with for almost two decades now and i don't see that as a really serious one. i think a bigger issue right now is the fact that the prism of people looking at global box office through a u.s. prism so about two-thirds of the box office for imax and the regular movie industry comes from outside of the u.s., and we all know the u.s., a lot of things are closed, it's not working. so they are developing different solutions which include, as you
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mentioned, day and date streaming, universal and disney at times have day and date pvod where people pay but a trend people haven't talked about is that when they stream things or pay window so early, they wipe out a lot of the chinese box office. every film they have tried that, the box office way lower than it should have been. that's because of piracy. people used to talk of piracy in china a lot but more recently, because the focus is so domestic, they said gee, we have an answer for the whole world, we will stream it here and put it on a pay window. but they forgot that it really affects the box office in china. so i do understand during the pandemic, everybody has to do unique things. but i think a lot of these new models won't make economic sense after the pandemic. liz: ah, interesting. but i do have to bring up names like maverick, the new "top gun"
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film that's expected to come out. how big do you think that is going to be, and again, back to sort of what now changes in the world when it comes to movies. regarding the situation with china, you know, they have to erase a flag, i think taiwanese, there was one of the characters in the movie where they are trying to change it, make sure it won't get censored in china, like world war z was. world war z never got to come out in china because they didn't like the movie. you are going to now have to have two separate scripts when shooting these things. >> i don't know about separate script. a lot of these things, they are the kind of tweaks that get fixed in post-production, like you said, if it's a flag on a jacket or whatever it is. you know, we have had fantastic box office there. '19 was a record for us. i think it was up by 20% over our previous record. so i think there definitely are issues in doing business there and you have to cope with those
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kind of issues, but i don't think they materially affect movie going. in terms of "maverick" not many people have seen it, and i hope tom cruise isn't listening, but you're not supposed to talk about it, but the buzz and some people i know who have seen it say it's worth waiting 40 plus years for. it's supposed to be spectacular. liz: oh, my gosh, i know. val kilmer is back in his current self. it's just amazing. you guys have done very well quarter to date. obviously down 25% year over year but quarter to date, you are up 34%. people obviously put real value in the stock. my last question is tell me in the end what the industry needs to do to really survive. we know what's happened with amc and cinemark, the other chains. it's been extraordinarily difficult. you know, is it just that great movies have to keep being made and what's the next big blockbuster you're looking toward? >> so i think the good news,
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liz, is because the 2020 slate was largely delayed until 2021, and there are other movies to open in 2021, there's a fantastic backlog from every studio so there's tons of marvel movies, there's a bunch of marvel movies coming out, as you said, "maverick," there's a "bond" movie, a bunch of great movies coming from universal and sony. there will be lots of great content. noi this i know this is the opposite of profound but what they need to do is get open, and make sure people feel safe going into theaters like they do in asia. i think the vaccine is on a very good track, really hopeful by april, may, things will really start to open in the u.s. jj abrams is quoted as saying, as well as others, is it going to be the roaring '20s again. based on what we have seen in some of our asian territories, once people let out of the house, they really want to go back to their lives in a big way. i think that's what needs to happen.
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liz: rich, from your mouth to god's ears, we will be watching. rich gelfond, ceo of imax. happy holidays to you and the family, rich. thank you so much. >> same to you, liz. thank you. liz: thank you. "the claman countdown" will be right back. dow jones industrials hovering around session lows. we are down 200 points. stay tuned. some things are good to know. like where to find the cheapest gas in town and which supermarket gives you the most bang for your buck. something else that's good to know? if you have medicare and medicaid you may be able to get more healthcare benefits through a humana medicare advantage plan. call the number on your screen now and speak to a licensed humana sales agent to see if you qualify. learn about plans that could give you more healthcare benefits than you have today. depending on the plan you choose, you could have your doctor, hospital and prescription drug coverage in one convenient plan. from humana, a company with nearly 60
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are 10-4 and second place in the afc north. but go on. charlie: i like baker mayfield, you know. i'm a baker mayfield fan. they have an excellent team over there in cleveland for a change. but we'll get into that. we will get into that later. you know, here's some interesting stats that we have been putting together about sports, particularly nfl ratings, and we do know this from my sources close to nfl, major nfl owners. they're saying the league is increasingly worried about the declining sports viewership amid the pandemic. despite the fact that everybody's locked in, to a large extent, particularly in new york and california, sports viewership is off pretty dramatically. a company called morning consult started crunching the numbers to explain why it's off so much. independent research from morning consult shows that, you know, they started ranking why people aren't watching sports as
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much, particularly football, and why now. you would think they would be. a whopping 17% of the respondents say they are watching less because they are citing this sports use of social justice and politicizing the sports so much. if you see those commercials, they are citing that as a reason that's turning them off, and what they are essentially saying is, you know, on a sunday after a long week, the last thing i want to do is be preached to by nfl players and league owners. i should point out that this isn't a universally held view. we did put a call in to mark cuban, the owner of the dallas mavericks basketball team, tech entrepreneur, a friend of this network. we asked do you think this is what's causing people to boycott sports so much because it's happening across all the major leagues. what he said is this. of all the issues facing sports, social justice is a positive,
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not a negative for ratings. maybe so, but when you really crunch the numbers, a significant portion of the fan base is saying enough is enough, particularly football. now, what's interesting, i did an earlier report on this at cavuto's show, i pointed out that the average football fan trends conservative, you know, essentially trends military, is more conservative, you know, is a middle and working class person, and that my point about that was these aren't -- i'm not saying these people are doing this because they're racist. they are doing this because they are patriotic and you know, if you take a knee in front of them during the anthem, they are going to not watch your product and they are some of the people you need to sell the product to. again, my point is i'm for taking knees. i have no problem with that. but the customer base generally does not like that. making that point somehow angered rush limbaugh.
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i don't know. you should go online and listen to it. he totally took my comments out of context because my point simply is this. liz: what a shock. charlie: yeah, right. what a shock, right? rush. my point is simply this. there is a customer base. it has certain political leanings and i'm not saying they're racist but they are patriotic and they don't like a lot of this -- they like to spend their sundays watching football being entertained, and not being preached to on social justice issues. the league is going to continue to suffer if they don't get that straight. that's my point. okay, rush? quote me accurately. liz: or they're just watching on cell phones and other devices that aren't rated by nielsen. who knows. charlie, thank you. the dow jones industrials, down 205. we do have red on the screen. we are trying to see if we can see a nasdaq record, but things are getting a little skinny
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♪. liz: closing bell four minutes away. the nasdaq and russell 2000 will be the clear winners unless something dramatically changes in the next three minutes. both will close at records. apple's autonomous vehicles per races a major booster in at least the nasdaq. here is this breaking news. elon musk just tweeted and he is responding to the apple competition moments ago tweeting that quote, in tesla's darkest days of the model 3 program where they had all kinds of production difficulties and elon wag sleeping overnight at the plant trying to figure out what to do, elon musk says he asked tim cook for a meeting around the apple ceo refused to take his call. always some drama. always some drama.
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but he is probably thrilled he didn't take that call because the stock is up more than 600% this, yeah, this year. so okay. let's see. we'll see what happens. all right. we're nine days away from the end of 2020. are we truly heading toward the roaring 2021? our countdown closer gus is hudson valley investment advisor cio. where are we going into 2021? what do you expect? >> liz this is similar, i guess it is not the same but it rhymes if you look at the spanish flu in 1918. we have similar set cup. quarantine. people have a lot of expendable cash. they want to do things. recession and. once we get past this point middle of the year, experiences travel, things of that mate ture take off in a big way. liz: you're looking at the vanguard consumer discretionary
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etf. i-shares dow jones, defiance next generation connectivity. what about these three? do you see a common thread that turns into green dollars? >> yes. because you have a couple of things. the logistics on the transportation side is helping you get products to consumers and number one as you've seen this year for christmas you ended up having a shorter date to turn around and get presents during the holidays. you will have to buildout supply chains and distribution chains in a bigger way. so that's going to help. in terms of the consumer side people don't want to sake selfies with clothes on, want to go out to events and ball games. a whole host of stuff. your prior guest richard gel fon talking about imax, people wanting to have experiences. that will take off we believe in the second half of the year. technology is part of that conduit that helps everything work. liz: indeed. there is no going back on that.
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gus, it is great to have these ideas because you really have a thesis that works well with it. we'll be watching of course. gus scacco by the way, guys, we look what is an all time record for the russell -- [closing bell rings] liz: not so much for the nasdaq. we appear, what do you mean walking away, walking away with the win. it is a record for the nasdaq. that will do it for "the claman countdown." connell: a lott going on here. a threat after new virus variant weighing on wall street the last couple days. we do get the record for the nasdaq at the close but overall we're mixed on the day even though congress is able to pass the 900 billion-dollar stimulus bill. look at the numbers. dow is down 200 points as we close down here. s&p 500 turned lower and closes down by seven 1/2 points. at the bottom of the screen, another record high for the nasd

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