tv The Evening Edit FOX Business December 28, 2020 6:00pm-7:01pm EST
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on that. be sure to join us tomorrow evening. dr. marc siegel. just the news editor-in-chief john solomon. republican lawyer phil klein our guests. that will do it for tonight. i'm gregg jarrett in for lou dobbs. have a great evening. elizabeth: breaking news. the house now voting whether to approve $2000 stimulus checks. we're watching this development. you're looking at the vote count right now. this action is happening right now. we're talking about the stimulus checks that democrats and media ripped trump about. trump delayed the covid-19 relief at the 11th hour, he wanted more money. he wanted 2,000-dollar checks that joe biden supports. abc demanding democrats explain why you did not move on stimulus earlier this year on a dollar figure that was double the amount that congress is now talking about about.
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1.8 trillion democrats did not move about this year. congressman guy rest thaler, brett tolman, braid gay nor. we have more headlines tonight. his last kick out of the door. the swamp reform yourselves as we have politicians basically saying they can't afford to take care of americans but take care of other countries, special interests and lobbyists. we'll show you the breakdown there. vaccines coming on strong but states like california have the worst covid-19 outbreaks amid the tightest restrictions in the country. more americans are now protesting botched shutdowns, saying to lawmakers we're going to shut you down. we'll toes you out of government because you show us you will break your own rules to keep your own way of life funded by salaries paid for by the american people who put you in power. people like americans that are now getting hammered into joblessness this as outrage now grows. big media, "the washington post"
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and "los angeles times," calling out politicians for cutting to the front of line to get vaccines before senior citizens and before first-responders who are working 20 hour shifts many of them. here is the question, are politicians more essential than americans? is this cutting the line. is this a case for term limits? also as we say good-bye to 2020. it was a year so chaotic it needed clarity from the media. instead what you got was a year of major media chaos belly-flops, misfires. so much so our list tonight is even longer and even a whole lot next level crazier than last year's list. plus, congress moving to undercut one of president trump's biggest success stories, border security. they're threatening to cut funding to i.c.e., when i.c.e. is capturing historic numbers of criminal illegal aliens, including thousands of suspects
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gang members like ms-13 and even dozens of suspected terrorists. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. we're in breaking news mode. the house just approved $2000 in stimulus relief checks. let's welcome republican guy rest guy reschenthaler. i have been very consistent supporting direct stimulus payments. we just had a relief biffle. the real story here how nancy pelosi delayed this relief for literally months and she admitted on the record that she did it for political gain. she didn't want to give president trump a win in the summer and fall heading into the election. so i think it is too late. i don't want to begrudge anybody the direct stimulus but --
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elizabeth: congressman, forgive me. i know you voted no but we've got other countries giving way more than america is in relief checks. we've got small businesses getting slammed across the country. you know we're seeing canada, australia, ireland, other countries giving way more help to the american people. explain exactly why you said no? >> i will. because in the covid relief package we had extra unemployment compensation. we had the direct stimulus payments of $600 a person. we had ppp, which is paycheck protection program. we had additional funding there. it was a holistic approach. i was willing to vote for that because it was more holistic. or i would have voted for $1,000 once and twice, two-time payment. i had that bill with lisa rochester or delaware. i wanted to do one or the other f it was a perfect bill, do direct stimulus payments, get
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money to people now. we just had a large package literally just passed a few weeks ago. i think we take a wait-and-see approach on that. then look to see if there is another opportunity to have another relief package in the future. elizabeth: all right. just may not be a good look, you know what i mean saying know to 2000-dollar checks. we see the president getting slammed for threatening a veto after 14 million americans set to lose their unemployment benefits. the president said he wants 2000-dollar checks. denmark, france, germany, canada giving more money in monthly relief checks. here is the thing. let's back up. critics say that wasn't going to happen anyway. the senate would ignore the 2000-dollar checks. president saying he will red line and cut out government waste to get the individual checks funded. it wasn't going to happen anyway in republican senate, right? >> well, yes. it is unclear if the senate is going to pass this, but if we go back to the other countries. those other countries also
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didn't have idle grants. they didn't have idle loan programs. they didn't have the paycheck protection program program. these other countries were doing direct stimulus paints. in the united states we've had numerous covid relief packages where we've been trying to take care of small businesses and individuals. i get what you're saying but again i was willing to vote for the direction stimulus payments not the direct stimulus payments and all the other support to unemployment compensation, small businesses et cetera. elizabeth: congress is the people's house. >> i don't want to begrudge anybody. at some point somebody has to pay for this. we have to be focused on what we're doing to the deficit around the debt. i'm all for giving people help. elizabeth: let's move on. i hear what you're saying. congress is the peoples house. congress works for taxpayer. taxpayer pay congress' salary. we're in a pandemic. we can't afford to take care of americans and other countries and special projects by
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lobbyists? look at the list we're showing now. voters will say, you know what, we can't afford to have congress in the peoples house. if you're going to be funding border walls in the middle east. sending hundreds of millions of dollars in central america to fight corruption. on and on and the list goes on and on. when rand paul, senators find nearly $55 billion in government waste. that is more than five million americans taxes going to pay for government waste. really you can't cut all that out and give them $2,000 in checks, really. >> i agree there was, there was spending that i did not find helpful in the last relief package, liz as rank-and-file member of congress we vote yes or no. i'm not secretary mnuchin. i'm not leader mcconnell. i'm certainly not nancy pelosi. we vet on whatever package they present to us. it was far from perfect but it was a good package. as far as foreign relief there
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was an omnibus spending the passed same day as covid relief package. those are getting conflated. we do have obligations abroad. if we're not engaged in other nations helping other nations china will be there doing it. china will undermined us around the world. that is not what he want. >> i hear you. but we have homeless veterans. we have small businesses really foundering right now, getting really slammed. we have millions of people out of jobs. i hear what you're saying. congress' approval rating is 17%. critics are saying it is surprised that it is that high. we're watching action in the house. we'll stay on this vote. nancy pelosi, her gavel as house speaker now is threatened. she has 222 democrat majority. she is seeing maybe 15 democrats opposing her. let's, i want to move on to
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this. abc's john carl. bernie sanders saying donald trump is pathological narcissist for not sighing the stimulus bill, for delaying it. bernie sanders dodges, john karl's question, you had $1.8 billion proposal this year. why did you turn that down. >> the administration before the election proposed a $1.8 trillion bill and democrats wouldn't move on it. was that a mistake in hindsight? should democrats have taken them up on the offer of a $1.8 trillion relief bill? >> all i can tell you, jonathan, is that given the enormity of the problems that we are facing $900 billion is simply not enough. we should have been talking about at least double that, maybe even more. elizabeth: okay. so he kind of dodges it but then says we should have been talking about double the 900 billion. basically saying yeah, we should have taken the $1.8 trillion
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year, dollar early in the year. what are your thoughts? >> you have me in the position somewhat agreeing with bernie sanders in sense. in politics we have a saying half a loaf is better than not getting a full loaf. i'm not talking about the bill in general, at least take what you can at the time in that respect he is saying nancy pelosi should have moved of the bill further a lot longer. president trump may have delayed a day or two on this bill but nancy pelosi literally delayed for months when the american people needed the help. that should be the real story here, how nancy pelosi used the political, used the american people as political pawns. elizabeth: let's show what, since you bring it up, let's show nancy pelosi in action doing exactly what you just said. watch this. >> well you want to be advocate, if you want to be advocate for them listen to -- >> i'm playing devil's advocate
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here. asking for your position. >> i didn't come over here to, so you're the apologist for the obama, excuse me, god forbid -- >> madam speaker, i'm not a apologist. >> you're defending the administration all this time with no knowledge of the difference between our two bills and i thank you thank you for giving me opportunity to say that to you. >> madam speaker, these are incredibly difficult times right now. we'll leave it on that note. thank you so much. >> leave it on a note that you are not right on this, wolf i hate to say it. elizabeth: your reaction congressman. >> two points, for one, that shows how the democrat and democrat leadership treat the press if they are their lapdogs. wolf bitter asked nancy pelosi around she slapped him down. if president trump or republican done that to a reporter we would have been viewed as attacking the press. interesting how nancy pelosi
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treats the press when they ask her probing questions which is their job. number one. nancy pelosi again was evading the underlying issue why she held up the relief that long. she never answered the question in that clip. nancy pelosi has used the american people as pawns in this political game. she has not answered to the press when they have asked legitimate questions. just shows you the arrogance of the democrat leadership. elizabeth: all right. congressman, good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, liz for having me on. elizabeth: federalist senior editor christopher bedford on georgia senate runoff which erps companies where the country goes the next four years. is the top democrat in georgia, one of the top democrats, is he in trouble dodging questions about a domestic dispute caught on camera. we'll show you what weren't down there. that story is next. >> rafael warnock who is a radical liberal, a marxist, and someone who has called for defunding the police, how can
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let's get to the federalist senior editor christopher bedford on this. your reaction before we move on to the georgia race. >> it is expected it will pass the house. that is pretty sad. also expected it will fail in the senate. it is unclear what donald trump gave up leverage that he had on this by signing the massive pork-filled bill he signed last night. then asking for separate votes on to repeal 203. asking for a separate vote, being promised that on 2000-dollar stimulus. he gave up a lot of leverage here. i expect it to get steamrolled by republicans. it is not a good day. elizabeth: chris, move on to the georgia race. we are one week away. enormously important moment for the next four years for the country. your call where it is head. president is it going to a rally for the republicans there the day before the election. the race means a democrats have a rubberstamp or check on their agenda.
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what do you say? >> how do you think it will go. >> it means a massive amount for their agenda. hard to say the democratic excitement in georgia has been incredible this past year in 2020. more of this state has gone to a purple state as opposed to a red state. joe biden will be able to accomplish a huge amount of president as executive order but the senate makes a huge difference t makes a difference whether or not amnesty for dreamers and lax border becomes. makes a difference whether christians are attacked through their churches through executive orders in the department justice and supreme court are stacked. other courts are stacked. gun ownerss level of regulation they will have to face versus actual legislation. finally no check on the biden administration. no ability to investigate any of their, any of their ties to china and no ability to push back on any of their nominees if republican the don't win at least one of these elections. the stakes are very high. it's a tough close game to call.
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elizabeth: it's a razor thin race. we have one of the democrats there taking hits right now. questions are mounting about georgia senate democrat candidate rafael warnock over police bodycam footage of an alleged domestic dispute with his ex-wife in march which she claims he ran over her foot. let's watch the video here from the police bodycam. watch this. >> i start to move slightly thinking she is here. >> clear? >> i'm thinking she is clear. around i barely moved. all of sudden she is screaming that i ran over her foot. i don't believe it. >> i tried to keep the way that he acts under wraps for a long time and today he crossed the line. elizabeth: okay. the investigation found no visible injury to the wife's foot and no charges were brought against warnock. but critics are saying the ex-wife looks really scared in this video. what do you say? >> she looks really frightened.
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she was reluctant to even have emergency services investigate her injury. it is such a tough call to make for a domestic disturbance caught on video aired in the public. it is so difficult to imagine what might have gone on amongst everyone involved there with children in the back seat, and warnock himself and his wife there in tears. it's a sad situation. there is a lot of things that are being aired right now, and the race has gotten very close and very dirty. my biggest concerns are some of the things he said from the pulpit. whether attacking pro-life christians or attacking conservatives or attacking america itself and siding with radical pastors like reverend wright. those kind of things should be concerned. any georgian that cares about gun rights, democratic control with two progressives in georgia in the senate will be difficult thing for their gun rights. elizabeth: senator love letter said in a statement, kelly loeffler, said this matter is for transparency because rafael warnock she says is not answering questions about this. this race is really getting
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nasty. warnock's campaign released an ad claiming kelly loeffler, claiming that she campaigned this month with a known white supremacist. her campaign saying wait a second, she did not campaign with the individual. showed up at photo-op at campaign stop. getting reaction to the story? >> it is getting hastive. warnock was chanting for castro when he visited new york. castro banned christmas. there is lot of strange associations going on in georgia. a lot of mud just like we expect. elizabeth: chris bedford, good to see you. up next former u.s. attorney brett tolman joins us on vaccines coming on strong. this as states like california has the worst covid outbreak and tightest restriction in the country. more americans protest botched shutdowns saying to lawmakers we're going to shut you down. we're going to toss you out of government. the story next.
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we have another salon owner stockton, california, the workers there saying local officials burst into their salon and treated their them like it was a drug raid. what is your reaction to that story? >> i think it is horrific and the reason i do is simply because it is not a policy rooted in either legal ability or lawful constitutional protections but instead it is rooted in fear and paranoia and the governing of those willing to abuse their position. it is also not driven by data so you know, why is it being tolerated? it is being tolerated in cities where they created enough fear that they have divided their citizenry so that you have those that really want to have the gaff issue rules and mandates and shutdowns versus those who don't. elizabeth: where is the justice for the small business guy and gal? where is the justice for the little guy trying to compete?
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how do they get protected? you know, it is just, now they have the government going after them for these arbitrary lockdown rules? we've been tracking the rules that are made by local county executives and they're arbitrary, they are chaotic. watch what happened to the salon owner stockton, california. watch this. >> the couple believes they were singled out because they are outspoken critics of how lockdown rules applied. >> would you like to see my mortgage? do you want to see my health insurance they boost into our salon. acted like a drug raid. they said stop everything you're doing. elizabeth: judge jeanine pirro is asking this. they're treated like it's a drug raid. we have box stores like target, home depot, costco. they're allowed to stay open and compete. mcdonald's, but they're crushing small businesses selling burgers, selling retail items just like these other retailers are doing but the
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small business guy gets hammered. why? >> well, scary thing, liz is, they're doing this, even though all courts so far who have reviewed these types of shutdowns or reviewed the inconsistent treatment among different small businesses, churches, schools, those who were mandating lockdowns have lost. the government has lost every single case so far. the problem is small business owners don't have the power and resources to typically to bring a very quick lawsuit against you know the governor or the health board or whoever it is that is exercising this abuse of power. elizabeth: you know, so, they're going to basically stay locked down and broke. because now we see the minnesota attorney general keith ellison. he is suing bars and restaurants. these guys, critics are saying acting like bigshots at the
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expense of the little guy. we have democrat hypocrisy, rules for thee, not for me. democrats breaking their own shutdown rules. nancy pelosi eating ice cream out of her 24,000-dollar refrigerator going to a hair salon in order -- without a mask. what kind of message is this sending? it feels like they're phony, condescending fraudulent hypocrites who believe they are above the law but the little guy, they have to run, they have to follow their laws that they break? >> i agree with every adjective and i would add illegal. the issue is we have got to have individuals willing to stand up, willing to oppose. you see people doing it. small business owners saying i'm not taking knit it anymore. lawyers need to step up, take it pro bono or costs only. whatever they can do, i encourage my colleagues in the legal profession to stand up to bring these lawsuits. they will win them.
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we will start to push back and shut down this kind of abuse. elizabeth: we just showed governor gavin newsom california easting a restaurant where a meal costs hundreds of dollars while people in california are on food lines because of shutdown orders. we get, spiking of cases are out of control. there are two crises happening at once. businesses getting hammered, tens of millions of people thrown out of work. now we got this. we want to show you this, carlos roman, owner of a company called bread and barleys, a local company in coscreen narcs california, i will use my pickup truck. i use it to block the public health inspector trying to shut me down. listen to carlos roman here. watch this. >> i'm desperate. who is going to pay for parking? who will pay my cook's rent?
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>> [inaudible] >> i want everyone to see how hard [bleep] this is. everyone wants to come out here. everyone wants to drive down visit one of the restaurants because they can't. this guy need to know how hard it is. that is what he need to know. you're out here enforcing, doing your job? did you get a paycheck on friday? did you get a paycheck? my people don't. you guys got a paycheck, didn't you? you're just doing your job, right? when i go to the bank i tell the bank the health department said it is okay. did the health department said i don't have to pay you. the health department said i can't make a living. is that what i told the banks? elizabeth: see what he is a saying? there is rule against outdoor dining. he is saying, outdoor dining you're going to shut that down too. by the way you, you politicians, you're getting a paycheck. all your people in the media
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criticizing guys like that, you're getting a salary too. but they're not. take this on, bret. what do you say? >> you know, the inconsistency in both which businesses are allowed to stay open under made up, or even faked rules and regulations that aren't supported by data is almost intolerable until you also get to where this business owner is and some are, that is, they come out then to shut you down and even when you are taking precautions they're not going to allow to you earn a living and yet what do we see, liz? who are the ones doing this? those have their payments, their payroll guaranteed, government workers, state and federal government workers are the ones being tasked with enforcing this. it is unbearable for anybody in this country to watch that. elizabeth: it is. you know, what they're saying is, you know, people understand, look the government will say okay, we're seeing cases spiking
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higher in these localities, in these venues but cases are less than 2% of the overall caseload of covid-19 that are happening at restaurants and bars in places like new york state. brett tolman. we'll stay on the story. we'll have you back on. go ahead, final word. >> thanks, liz. final word. look at south dakota. didn't shut down of the businesses are open. elizabeth: all right. brett tolman, good to see you, come back soon. still ahead media research center vice president dane gaynor, we see a chaotic 2020 we needed clarity from the media t was a year of major media belly flops and chaos, misfires. so much so our list this year is even longer than last year's. that story next. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia.
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year. people are saying yeah, we're finally enthusiastically showing 2020 the door but you can imagine the media would like to say hey we had a lot of media belly flops in 2020 too. we're glad to see 2020 go too. what would you say? >> if you ask most journalists they're thrilled. they don't care about the mistakes. they don't care about the things that were embarrassing to them. they fought donald trump. in their minds they won and nothing else matters. elizabeth: but they also had other things we're just showing now. cnn comparing the iran terror mastermind who killed u.s. troops to charles de gaulle. msnbc's chris matthews claiming nancy pelosi was referential on impeachment. brian williams of msnbc failing in math t goes on and on. there is a lot of problems with the media this year. what would you say? who was the worst offender would
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you say? >> there were not just one but there were a couple. "the new york times" who fired people for running an op-ed from a u.s. senator dealing with rioting in the united states. proceeded to hide the eric swalwell story from its readers and a whole bunch much other failings. let's be honest, cnn. cnn, it is, it is fallen so far from being a reputable news network to a network that is recredentialed dan rather, put him to the point they put him on tv he tried to fix the presidential election and fired for his bad reporting as a network anchor. it is appalling. elizabeth: hear what you're saying. cnn and msnbc. they had people on there that trump would use the military to seize the election through force. msnbc downplaying violent rioting destroying jobs and millions $6 in small businesses and community property.
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it looks like across the board what happened. what do you say? >> of course. some of the biggest stories of the year. you are mentioning the moment where he saying not very violent and building burning right behind him. msnbc, just horrible. but across the board you had hunter biden story which was a enormous scandal. it is still playing out where twitter and facebook, literally censored instead of obeying what the press has always done in the past covering a censored story they censored it too across the board. major outlets they said it was russian misinformation. they have been proven wrong. the election is over. and they don't care. there is that, the good news, anything that made trump look good or biden look bad the press did their best to suppress. that is not journalism. that is propaganda. elizabeth: "axios" said that joe
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biden is luckiest, least scrutinized front-runner during the campaign. he was answering less than half the questrom was. softball questions too. >> they didn't want to ask anything tough because asking anything tough would undermine their very overt across the board media outlets campaigning for joe biden to take down donald trump. to the point you saw the social media companies promoting voting. they didn't want to have everybody voted. they wanted uninformed voters who didn't know much about the candidate who would vote based on the media they saw. elizabeth: listen, we called out president trump for topspinning, basically trying to whip fastballs by people. we get that. we're just saying, play it fair, media. you know you didn't, you let joe biden bully you into silence on the campaign trail about what charles grassley and ron johnson say is a counterintelligence
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potential extortion, potential criminal activity involving his son. that is a senate report that came out in september yet christiane amanpour and lesley stahl of 60 minutes downplaying and dismissing it out of hand. your final word, dan. >> that is exactly right. they were not filling the role of investigative reporters. they went from being watchdogs to lapdogs. elizabeth: dan, good to see you come back soon. >> thank you. elizabeth: next up we have republican strategist ford o'connell. he is fired up and ready to go. he is joining other media like "the washington post" and "los angeles times." there is growing outrage in the media over politicians cutting the line to get vaccines before senior citizens and first-responders. the question is this, is this an eloquent case for term limits? that story next. taking prescrips shouldn't be one of them.
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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show republican strategist ford o'connell. ford, critics are asking, including "the washington post" and "l.a. times" are asking this, why are politicians cutting in line to get the vaccine ahead of senior citizens and first-responders who are working 20 hour shifts? >> well they shouldn't be. this is a case of elites exercising their privilege solely to benefit themselves. this needs to be first administered to front line workers, the elderly and those with the most serious preexisting conditions. we all need eventually to take the vaccine but it has to go to those who are most vulnerable. that is the only way to play offense against covid. elizabeth: alexandria ocasio-cortez is 30 years old. kristin cinema is in her 40s. marco rubio is in his 40s. are politicians more essential than first-responders than senior citizens? >> absolutely not.
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it is absolutely ludicrous if they make the case somehow they're setting a national example by taking the vaccine. remember, folks in congress have health care better than 99% of americans. i can tell you as someone who was laid up in the hospital for a week with covid, they are fine. they will be fine. there will be no harm ever come to them. but we need to take care of those who are most vulnerable. they should not be doing it if they want to come out there and set an example they need to actually go on tv and televise it so the rest of america decide that it is okay to take the vaccine other than that they should never cut the line. elizabeth: we're glad you recovered from your covid-19 issue there. we're so sorry to hear that you went through that but you pointed this out, alexandria ocasio-cortez is saying well, i'm trying to set an example that the covid-19 vaccine is not politicized like masks were.
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joe biden and kamala harris politicized vaccine the we'll not take one developed under trump's "operation warp speed." now they're getting the vaccine. what do you say to that? >> the word of the year when it comes to the democrats and the vaccine is hypocrisy. aoc is absolutely full of it. what joe biden and kamala harris did actually to hurt america now that the presidential election is over. americans need faith in the vaccine moving forward. i think it was the latest fox poll that said 61% of the americans were willing to take the vaccine. it needs to be up to 75% so we have critical mass. the only way we fight this is with tens of millions of americans take it. it will not come through lockdowns. it will not come by more mask wearing. it will come through the vaccine. president trump should get all the credit in the world. democrats didn't want to do that because they played politics to win an election. elizabeth: ford o'connell, always great to have you own, we're glad you're healthy and back at it. >> thank you. happy new year. elizabeth: same here. coming up retired i.c.e. acting
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director tom homan. boy, he is really angry. he is really fired up about this. congress is now undercutting one of president trump's biggest successes, border security. congress is threatening to cut funding to i.c.e. i.c.e. is now capturing historic numbers of criminal illegal aliens including thousands of suspected gang members like ms-13 and even dozens of suspected terrorists. will that all come undone? the story next. >> president trump doing exactly what he should be doing. based on his actions illegal immigration is down 80% depending on what month you look at
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♪. elizabeth: welcome back to the show retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan. tom, congress is now undercutting a big success of president trump. it is border security. i.c.e. is now one of the few agencies threatened with budget cuts. they will get $105 million less than last year, why. >> $105 million, that is smoke and mirrors. there are two sides of i.c.e. immigration enforcement side of house. the immigration enforcement side
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of the house got 300 million-dollar deduction. 300 million-dollar hit they took. so when you look at that, most of us in custody ops. i.c.e. at one time had 52,000 people in detention. congress funded them for 31,500. that is 40% decline in beds. catch-and-release is coming back. during the surge, 100,000 people come across the border every meant. one there are 31,000 beds. catch-and-release. that is what the dems wanted. that is what the bill will do. elizabeth: you and i talked about this. this is really serious and dangerous situation. you and i talked about how violent drug cartels and gangs like ms-13 involved in human smuggling in this country. i.c.e. arrested nearly 104,000 illegal aliens this year. thousands of gang members like ms-13 arrested. those arrested are accused of serious crimes like homicides, murder, drug trafficking, sexual
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assaults with children. this is who, what we're dealing with at the border. and how come congress doesn't see that? >> well, look, they don't care. the left, progressives taking over democrat party don't care. when we get catch-and-release that is another entirement. joe biden said he would put moratorium on enforcement for 100 days. most will never show up in court. they will wait for the next amnesty comes around. that is the way the whole system works. it is really sad day when congress knows a surge is coming. you don't have to be a border genius to realize everything joe biden said the surge is coming. what your response to that? cut i.c.e. funding by $300 million so they can't detain people that will be another incentive for more people to cross. the cart tells will make millions. this country is in trouble under a biden administration if he continues to do what he is doing on the border in making the
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promises what he will do on immigration. elizabeth: i.c.e. deported more than 185,000 illegal aliens this fiscal year. more than 4200 gang members including ms-13. my sources in law enforcement say trump was a success here. ms-13, you could talk about this, the initiation is you butter somebody, including teenagers, senior citizens. talk about how the gangs are. are they coming pouring across the border? >> absolutely. we did a huge gang operation. i was i.c.e. director in long island up in new york. 46% of everybody we arrested in that gang operation came into the country as a family unit or unaccompanied alien children. with these family surgeses. 46% came in that way, claiming to be a child, family group or uac. president trump you said it. he did a great job. he focused on gangs.
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i.c.e. has record number of gang arrests and rye moves. ms-13 is the most vicious gang that exists in the world today. i.c.e. put a huge target on their back. i.c.e. even, attache offices in el salvador worked with the federallies down there. we arrested thousands of gang members at home. tried to cut off the head of the snake to take the leadership out. a huge focus on gangs, under this budget, i.c.e. will have to make a determination. do we arrest gang members put them in the bed? do we arrest people coming out of jails that are public safety threats put them in the bed? do we put people coming across the border into the bed. 31,000 beds. some will be released. a lot will probably be gang members. >> i hear you. 2/3 of those deported, about 120,000 had criminal convictions already or had charges pending. we're talking about dozens of terrorists. we're not just talking about central america. people from eastern europe,
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china, asia, central africa. a bosnian terrorists shouted allow talk bar when he went after two new york city police officers. "allahu akbar!." we're talking about terrorists coming across the border as well. talk to us about the numbers, how high the criminal convictions are, the number of those kicked out, how many had criminal convictions? >> actually the people that i.c.e. arrested, interior of the united states 89.7%. nine out of every 10 people i.c.e. arrested in the interior of the united states have criminal conviction or pending criminal charges. the reason the other number is down to 60, you're adding border apprehensions in. these are not interior arrests. these are border arrests. you're right, i.c.e. is focused on criminals. the last one to say i.c.e. is out there doing these raids and they're tearing apart families, doing indiscriminate arrests the
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data shows different. the data focuses on public safety threats and criminals. under a biden administration, that is in trouble because they don't have the money to do their job. elizabeth: tom homan, we'll have you back on. thank you for breaking it down for us. we appreciate it. i'm elizabeth macdonald. gregg: good evening, everyone, i'm gregg jarrett sitting in for the vacationing lou dobbs. federal investigators are searching for a motive in the christmas day bombing that rocked downtown nashville. police say anthony quinn warner blew himself up in the explosion that injured at least three people and caused major damage to nearby homes and businesses. there are reports this evening that warner's pair now e ya over 5g technology could have contributed to that attack. also the dow, the s&p 500 and nasdaq all jumped to record highs after president trump signed off on a
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