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that at 12:15, 15 minutes from now he will try to pass in the senate the house passed-bill to give emergency 2,000-dollar checks to americans. so that deserves to be watched. i know jackie deangelis, my friend at cavuto will watch that story in the hour to come. jackie: we absolutely will. good afternoon, david. welcome to "coast to coast." i'm jackie deangelis in for neil cavuto today. the senate is set to vote on boosting the stimulus checks to the 2,000-dollar mark. we see what impact it could have on georgia races. new york city restaurants are fighting back against increased restrictions. owners are calling for officials to follow the date the at that. novavax is entering fades three of three phase three of its
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trials in the united states. that ceo will be here. all eyes on stimulus. the senate meeting ahead of a vote on a decision to boost stimulus checks to $2000. minority leader chuck schumer he says he will bring it to the floor for a vote today, 12:15 time. fox news correspondent mike emanuel with the latest from washington, d.c. reporter: jackie, god afternoon. the senate is back this hour, the senate leader is suggesting he needs some help to get this done. >> today i am telling donald trump don't just talk about it, act. these senate republicans have followed you through thick and thin. get them now to act and support the 2000-dollar checks. reporter: last night's house vote was 275-134. only 44 republicans out of nearly to hundred in the house supported the president's plan. many in the gop expressing the concern about the price tag, increasing payments from 600 to
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$2000 will cost an estimated $463 billion. florida republican senator marco rubio says congress should quickly pass legislation to increase those direct payments to americans to $2000 and quote, i share many of my colleagues concern about the long term effects of additional spending but we cannot ignore the fact millions of working class families are in dire need of relief. a key republican this morning expressed this hope. >> i think that the senators will eventually vote for that because it is popular with the people and because the president supports it. if the president wasn't leading on this issue it wouldn't have a chance in the senate. i certainly think after last night's vote, with statements from people like marco rubio in support of it, i think it has a pretty legitimate chance in the senate right now. reporter: vermont senator bernie sanders tweed h tweeting this morning, if mcconnell doesn't agree to up-or-down vote
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providing 2,000 people for a direct payment, congress will not go home nor new year's eve. they help president trump can pull this across the finish line in the senate. jackie. jackie: thanks so much for that. that pressure is mounting on senate republicans to vote for the 2,000-dollar stimulus check. could ramifications be felt from this with the georgia senate runoff elections one week away? let's bring in gop pollster lee carter, "the hill" editor-in-chief bob cusack and fox news political analyst giano caldwell. it passed in the house 275-144, 44 republicans joining with the democrats to get 2,000-dollar checks passed through. mitch mcconnell has been very quiet about it. schumer says i will bring it up if you don't. we'll watch for that. where do you think this goes? >> it will be interesting to see how mcconnell reacts to this. i imagine he will try to table or discard what schumer is offering. it highlights the divide in the republican party.
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marco rubio's words are very important i think because he represents florida and represents a lot of what the gop caucus is. at the same time republican leaders have been against 2000-dollar checks. at the same time you have the georgia senators who are in support of it. they're facing a tough election in early january. so this is just dividing the party. regardless of what happens in the next hour democrats will keep bringing these motions up in the new year. jackie: lee, i want to get your take on it it is all about georgia right now. everyone's on january 5th when happens in the runoff races, very important when it comes to balance of power in this country. so does that add mounting pressure to move forward with the stimulus checks here? >> i think in some ways it does. the georgia senators are in support of it. that is good for them in georgia. the fact that donald trump is getting credit for the
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2,000-dollar idea. saying he would veto the idea, push it forward, trump supporters feel it is for them. democrats feel like it is for them. if it doesn't pass the conservatives who have given up for donald trump and republican party, maybe there is hope there will be conservative balance. net-net if the republicans don't pass this in the senate i don't think it with h will have as much of an impact on georgia as people think. jackie: gianno, there is question about raising payments for $2000. if you're a family of four you will get $8,000. a lot of people are struggling. we all know that. we know how hard the pandemic has been. a lot of republicans are saying this is massive amount of money to push out right now. things will get better. vaccines are on the way. businesses will open up and we'll see the resurgence going into the first half of next year. maybe we don't need to spend that much right now? >> i think the spending argument is great. i think that is one people should be talking about but
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weigh should have been talking about it as last four years as well. as a conservative i believe leaders of my party disgraced themselves. why? we're in the midst of a pandemic still. trillions of dollars lost in the economy. there is study between 3 and $5 trillion will be lost in gdp within the next two years. the worst-case scenario, we would do worse off by triple what china has done in terms of loss of gdp growth. we should be talking about these issues but at the same time this is american people's money. the federal government takes in $3 trillion annually. this is not welfare money. this is not a handout. americans are suffering, they're hurting, something more needs to be done than $600 per individual, especially considering some of the fact this chaos is caused by liberals in multiple states. at this point it is not about politics, it is about your brother, sister, cousin, neighbor, something happened through no fault of their own. we need to do much more than
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$600 per individual. jackie: bob he makes a great point when it comes to the checks. people need the money. at the same time when president trump came out and said raise $600 to $2,000. he thought there was frivolous spending in packages. he wanted cuts as well. it would take reshaping, a lot of work to do that. seems we'll bump up to 2000 without cutting the spending is that is where some of the republicans have a problem. >> they do without a doubt. the trump state department did request a lot of foreign aid. listen, neither party is really fiscally responsible at this time and probably not anytime soon. now if this fails today, the closing argument for democrats is, if you want $2,000, heelect the democrats. that will be powerful argument. everyone likes checks.
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there is debt debate we have to talk about eventually. jackie: lee, when it comes to the issue about spending we look whatever crisis we're in, whatever the fed injecting market with liquidity, in this case the federal government providing stimulus to those who need it to support the economy. nobody ever talks about who will pay for it. sort of that proverbial can we kick down the road. when is leadership to step up here is plan to balance the budget, to deal with the problems we have in a more responsible way? you certainly don't hear that from the democrats. you don't hear it from nancy pelosi. >> you doesn't hear it from the democrats and you will not hear it from the republicans until the pandemic is over. most people agree there is one role of government we all can agree on in the middle of a public health crisis or issues of national security. we're in the middle of a health crisis. so we need to get through this to find our way through it and the american people are looking to the government to help them in this moment.
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we'll not hear about getting out of this until we have herd immunity and vaccinations are underway and life is going back to normal. i think we'll start to hear the republicans talk about again. jackie: we'll watch into next year so much that we have to get through before we get to the point to have that conversation. guys, great to see you. you will stick around. see you a little later in the show. we appreciate the conversation. we're also watching the markets very closely because stocks pulling back after hitting all-time highs. the dow was up at 30,588 points. you can see it is trading higher by four points at the moment we're talking here. market watcher keith fitz-gerald is with us. keith, despite today's downturn we're seeing the market keeps going up when i see a pullback today, i probably see lower volumes, people on vacation, some profit-taking after we hit new records yesterday. it seems to make sense to me. anything that you're worried about when you see this kind of action especially there may be a vote at 12:15 we need to keep an eye on? >> that is a very interesting
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question. the only reason i would be worried if i didn't see this kind of action. we're taking profit loss selling. a lot of people want to remove. at the same time we have conflicting currents. people are uncertain about this last political hurdle but here is the important part. they also know the markets are about producing future growth and future earnings. there is very much impetus to get ahead of that. the fact we haven't sold off hard is very encouraging to me. jackie: it is interesting though as we hit our lows during the pandemic and we definitely made a comeback with these markets there has been excitement about reopening, getting business back up and running. you would basically get it back to where it was before. so should the market be marching like this in this way? >> that's a very nuanced question. i think yes, the market should be marching this way but not because of the -- jackie: keith i will interrupt you for a moment. mitch mcconnell is speaking. we'll take this right now. >> one more time when we vote tomorrow. now on another matter on sunday
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president trump signed into law another historic bipartisan rescue package. it will provide major support to american families through what we hope will be the homestretch of our fight with the coronavirus. congressional republicans, congressional democrats and president trump's senior team had all worked together to pass hundreds of billions of dollars of urgent assistance to the people that need it most. this new law will set up targeted round of paycheck protection program to renew jobs. it will help laid off workers endure the crisis t will send more cash to households. it will invest billions in vaccine distribution so the success of "operation warp speed" kills the pandemic as fast as possible and much more. this bipartisan compromise was our shot getting help to working families on the urgent timeline that they need. once again i want to applaud president trump for signing the bill getting much-needed
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assistance into the pipeline. during this process the president highlighted three additional issues of national significance he would like to see congress tackle together. first as he explained the president would like further direct financial support for american households, second, is the growing willingness on both sides of the aisle to at least reexamine the special league protections afforded to technology companies under section 230 of the communications decency act including the ways it benefits some of the most prosperous, most powerful big tech firms. and the third subject since every american regardless of their politics should feel the integrity of our democracy is beyond reproach is exploring further ways to protect of the sanctity of america's ballots while continuing to respect the federal government's limited role in standing behind state and local government who actually run elections. those are the three important subjects that the president has linked together.
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this week the senate will begin a process to bring these three priorities into focus. i move to proceed to calendar number 480 s-3895. >> the clerk will report. motion to proceed to s-3985. bill to move reform policing practices accountability and transparency. >> unanimous consent that following leader remarks on wednesday, december 30th, the time until 1:15 be equally divided. jackie: you were listening to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell speaking on the floor of the senate, addressing some of the issues that are on americans minds today and praising the covid-19 relief bill. he also brought up that sticking point of section 230 which the president has hammered home dealing with big tech and some of the communications issues as well. keith, i want to bring you in here to react because i was watching this very closely.
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as soon as the leader started speaking the dow turned negative. we're only down 18 points. i'm not making more of it than it is definitely is but it is an interesting reaction. >> that is entirely logical to me because watching him speak, listening to this is like watching pain dry. what the american public needs is not more bipartisan this, that other thing, we hear we you, we have your back, we have your back and heating from the front. instead -- jackie: i will interrupt you again. i apologize for that. we'll go back to the floor for senator schumer. >> we should not adjourn until the senate hold as vote on both measures. the ndaa veto override and the house bill to provide 2000-dollar checks for the american people. as we all know the majority leader controls the schedule on the floor. so leader mcconnell holds the key to unlocking this dilemma.
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the solution is a simple one, put both bills up for a simple up-or-down vote and then let the chips fall where they may. i believe both measures will pass as they should. but leader mcconnell must allow the senate to vote vote on pieces of legislation, the defense bill and the 2000-dollar checks before we to home. we will start the process of overriding the president's veto of the defense bill tomorrow. today at the end of my remarks i will ask the senate's consent to take up the house-passed bill to provide the american people immediate survival checks of $2000 a person. throughout this pandemic working americans have taken it on the chin. right now they're facing their hardest and their darkest days. 10 of millions have lost their jobs. tens of millions have struggling to put food on the table.
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keep a roof over their heads. in the wealthiest nation on mothered earn, modern-day bread lines stretch for miles down american highways. the fastest way to get money into americans pockets is to send some of their tax dollars right back from where they came. 2000-dollar stimulus checks could mean the difference between american families having groceries for a few extra weeks or going hungry. the difference between paying the rent, or being kicked out of your home that you have lived in for years. it could buy precious time for tens of millions of people as the vaccine thankfully makes its way across the country. of course we could have taken up this issue weeks ago. in the covid bill congress just passed democrats wanted generous direct payments to the american people. speaker pelosi and i repeatedly
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asked our republican counterparts how much they could support? their answer, $600. it was a compromise many of us were not happy about. i came to the floor myself with the senator. jackie: that is senator schumer speaking on the floor of the senate right now. there you have it, keith. he brought up the issue of the 2000-dollar checks just as it was expected that he would and right on time, saying that he wants to see a vote on that today, also the defense bill, a vote on that possibly tomorrow. the dow came back just a little bit. we're splitting hairs here with respect to the numbers but the markets are watching this. >> oh, they're very clearly watching this because they know this is the key to our survival of millions and millions of people who need this maybe i'm not, maybe i'm not one that is naive why are millions of americans prevented from doing their jobs by people who refuse in congress to do theirs?
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it makes no sense. this is the time for leadership, not bickering and posturing. jpmorgan locked bankers in the library in 1907 to fix the financial crisis. maybe we should do something similar, figure out how to deal with the pain americans are feeling and provide action that is meaningful. jackie: schumer said they won't adjourn until we have the vote. thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >> you bet. thank you. jackie: dozens of bars and restaurants in new york taking legal action to reopen indoor dining. we'll take up the empire state backlash coming up next. ♪.
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governor cuomo's covid related restrictions were harsher on religious groups than secular businesses and halted executive orders gathering in covid hot spots to 10 to 25 people while the case is being litigated. they argued that it restrictions on the free exercise of religion clause. several groups joined this. a rabbi posted reaction on line. >> today's ruling by the united states court of appeals from the second circuit vindicates the principle of religious freedom in a very real, tangible way that will have implications not only for this specific case but many cases across the united states and on many different issues involving religious freedom. reporter: the appeals court ruling follows two supreme court emergency injunctions filed by religious groups in november also coming down in their favor. across the country dozens of states are seeing religious groups push back against covid
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related lockdowns because officials classified them as non-essential which they say is unconstitutional. a possible indication monday's decision will begin to affect those cases, the law firm representing the religious groups sent out a tweet highlighting that since connecticut is also in the second circuit, it means connecticut's similar caps on worship are unconstitutional. religious groups say they want to work with the governor, they're willing to work with the governor to come up with a solution that is good for everyone. back to you. jackie: lauren, thank you for that. mean time 40 bars and restaurants suing in upstate new york to reopen indoor dining and now a state supreme court judge says governor andrew cuomo must compromise or provide scientific evidence to support restrictions on bars and restaurants. let's bring in new york city council republican minority whip joe borelli. great to see you this afternoon. let me ask you this. when it comes to democrats talking about covid-19 they
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always say we follow the science yet when it comes to closing bars and restaurants and these restrictions on indoor dining they're not necessarily following the data. the data represented in this particular study, in this lawsuit rather shows that 1.4% of the transmission only comes from indoor dining but that 74% is coming from indoor gatherings at people's homes. because you can't go out to the restaurant. so you will gather in the homes. you may have more people there. they may not be socially distant and following protocols and hence more spread? >> right. let's be clear where the data comes from. this data comes from the governor himself in form of the state's contact tracing corporation. the government himself did a scientific study finding out where coronavirus is spreading. they determined that restaurants and bars are not responsible for 99, or 98.4, right, of the percentage of cases of coronavirus in the state and still it is restaurants and bars
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and movie theaters that are being singled out still in this state. unfortunately the bar owners, the tavern keepers, folks like that have no other option but to go to court. we saw this case yesterday be decided by the appellate division, confirming that the governor has stepped on some constitutional norms in barring religious gatherings. keep in mind the same day governor cuomo's state lawyers were there defending the ban on public services he was announcing plans to have 7,000 people at the buffalo bills stadium to celebrate and watch their playoff hopefully victory in the coming weeks. this is just, really does play into this idea of arbitrary and capricious which is the grounds most lawsuits are filing on and when you see the science and logic behind some of these decisions it is hard to argue that the governor is doing anything but being arbitrary and capricious.
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jackie: according to the new york city hospitality alliance, over 1000 restaurants have closed. 88% of restaurants cannot pay the rent this is crucial time the businesses can go under or stay afloat. governor cuomo has a choice to make but he is not really making it. >> no. we are one of the states with the strongest restrictions frankly we don't have much to show for it. our cases are spiking. they're spiking in areas where the strictest indoor dining regulations. unfortunately despite being the decision that he makes to shut these places down, he is one of the few governors that is not actively out there trying to make small businesses whole. even gavin newsom, who gets a lot of criticism about coronavirus, california has began passing, you know, small business incentives, small business grants for folks that had to be shut down by their lockdowns. when it comes to our governor we only hear crickets from i am unfortunately. jackie: newsom was criticizing
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for dining out when he wanted everybody staying at home but that is another separate topic. thanks so much, joe, really appreciate your time today. >> thank you. jackie: stocks are moving lower after senate majority leader mitch mcconnell objected to senator chuck schumer's request that the senate approve that 2,000-dollar stimulus payment to americans by unanimous consent. we'll be right back. what day is it? these days it can be easy to lose track of things. did i feed you? but taking prescriptions shouldn't be one of them. cvs simpledose presorts your prescriptions into packets, so you know what to take when. delivered at no cost. is this clean? visit cvs.com.
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jackie: welcome back. stocks moving lower after senate majority leader mitch mcconnell objected to chuck schumer's request the senate approve 2,000-dollar stimulus payments. let's bring in pollster lee
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carter and, bob cusack. what is the next move here? >> negotiation this really could be the difference between democrats and republicans winning the senate and i think mcconnell, obviously that is his focus. he wants to remain majority leader. he is blocking it. he is blocking it for now. democrats say they will delay the vote on pending defense bill. now i think it is negotiation. mcconnell has to decide what to do i think it is close to 50-50. mcconnell will allow a vote. you can't lose the senate if you're mitch mcconnell right now. i just think he has to do this because it is popular and because it could be used against his two candidates in georgia. jackie: lee, why do you think mitch mcconnell is sort of walking on the tightrope here? it seems easier to just sort of move along with a vote on the 2000-dollar check that is where he is headed every way. why he is contentious? >> there is important if there is public display why this is
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issue this is not just about a $2,000 check. there is more. put on full display the differences are before you move to a vote is probably the smart thing to do. i think so many moments create an opportunity for symbols of what the story is all about. if it was just to go to vote all we would be talking about 2000-dollar checks. it would be a victory for trump, democrats, wouldn't necessarily be victory for republicans. this way he can control the narrative a little bit and it might be a smart move. jackie: you talked about how the american people need these checks and they don't need any delays when it comes to putting food on the stable. how do you think this will be perceived by the public? >> well for those who supported donald trump when he ran in 2016, when he said that this was going to be about americans first, this is a clear example of the necessity that the republicans need to provide for those voters, whether they be in georgia or anywhere else. i think what we'll ultimately
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see donald trump continue on twitter to push his agenda right now 2000-dollar checks. he will continue to push it. hopefully there will be something done as bob mentioned with the democrats. there needs to be significantly more than $600. now on another note, when donald trump leaves the white house, i think on twitter, everywhere else he is still going to continue to be pushing an agenda for republicans to follow, otherwise things will change quickly, or the party of trump or the gop. that is what it will come down to in my opinion. jackie: he may very well do that, bob. as of right now he has been relatively quiet. i say relatively because we're talking about somebody who is typically very vocal. he is also making stops in georgia. he will go there the night before the senate races for those runoffs to rally the base, rally his supporters. those votes will be very important. you even have some democrat ad campaigns out there saying don't, urging trump voters to not necessarily come out to vote.
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there is a lot at stake here right now. >> a lot at stake. it is all about turnout. trump got the turnout going in early november and helped republicans pick up seats in the house and keep the senate at least for now. it will be all hands on deck. these races i think will be really close. jackie: guys. we'll join back with you in a little bit but fox business of course will have live special coverage of the georgia senate runoff elections. kneel will begin the coverage at 7:00 p.m. eastern time on january 5th. make sure that you tune in. coming up one of the stars of "wonder woman" 1984 is here. we'll tell you who the surprise guest is here after the break. >> the time will come, diana. ♪ everything will be different. ♪
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>> people like me have had nothing. now it is my turn. ♪. get used to it. jackie: "wonder woman 1984" setting a new box office high during the pandemic, earning $16.7 million in theaters as well, streaming on hbo max. the movie showcasing some familiar faces. that is right, guys. friend of the show, bob cusack is here with us, landing a role in "wonder woman." you can see the photograph there. bob, you're here. tell us about what your experience was? i have to be honest, i wasn't one of the ones to watch the movie just yet. jackie: it was a great experience. it was a long day of filming. it was hot that day. that is showbusiness. cast and crew were very great. it is exciting. it has been a long wait, jackie, it has been 2 1/2 years since we filmed it. we watched it on christmas.
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my family got a kick out of it. reaction is fun but i doesn't expect any recognition from the academy. jackie: i will ask you this because this is the central question what is happening with the economy. movie theaters, for example, releases like this, did you stream it or go somewhere to watch it? >> i did stream it. it was very easy. once it was ready at noon on christmas. i did not fast forward it. we waited until my part and watched rest of the movie. jackie: i might not have been able to wait. i might have fast forwarded and gone back. when it comes to figures they have not been clear exactly how many people went out to the movies, how many streamed. there is estimate half streamed at home, lee. your thoughts about returning to a movie theater any sometime soon especially if you can get a theatrical release in your living room? >> it is important to note, right, samsung television sales in the u.s. were up 20% this year. more people are developing home
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theaters, getting more comfortable. it's a better experience. movie theaters have not updated the experience in years. they still have challenges with getting expensive food, stick at this shoes, not as comfortable. they have got to get with the program if they want to keep with the audience. they're not just struggling because of the pandemic. they're struggling because they haven't updated with the times. they have to reevaluate what is the customer experience that makes it worth our money. jackie: gianno, by all accounts, new york movie theaters don't have reputation forking clean. when you're getting a fountain drink. you have to go up to pick the flavor and press the button now. they won't pour it for you the way they used to. all the touching that is involved, sitting in the seat. there is more touching and breathing. i think we've just become you know, so desensitized to wanting to interact with other people in that way and just it mate be
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easier to be an introvert and stay home. >> yeah but you know what, i got to go tell you i tell you wouldn't advertise movie star to bob cusack's bio. this is big time. big deal, bob. trust me. interestingly enough, absolutely. i agree with the sticky shoes. a lot of movie theaters have not updated with the times. i got to tell you about a month ago me and my girlfriend caroline we went to a movie, actually sat in, felt so good to feel normal again, pre-covid. people sat there they enjoyed. they had the popcorn t felt really normal. i'm sure there are a lot of americans that want to get back to that feeling just like we want a lot of our other establishments and businesses open because the movie theater industry is clearly impacted by covid. you saw a lot of theater companies file for bankruptcy. things need to change but with the proper precautions. jackie: issue of broadway, at least with a movie theater if it is not too crowded you get
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space, broadway way is facted tight. there are fans that say we can't wait to get open and back at it. we'll be watching for that to happen in 2021. thank you for your time. bob, thank you, the cavuto academy gives you a statue. >> thank you. keeping my day job [laughter]. jackie: grocery store workers and restaurant owners are facing unique challenges throughout this pandemic. how one supermarket ceo lending a hand to both groups after the break. ♪.
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cheerleader and jimmy galigan comes from mixed race family. they went to high school together. mimi used a racial slur in regarding a getting a learner's permit. galligan saw the video. in the days before george floyd's death, and mimi became the center of national media firestorm. university of tennessee cheerleading team took away her roster slot and she with drew from the university. >> this is only be described as rush to judgment. the university of tennessee came in through a panic of a lot of hysteria, social media going on, they didn't give her a meaningful investigation. reporter: looking at this story in its entirety many are pointing to this 2019 clip of former president obama as a warning that has not been
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followed by cancel culture. >> like if i tweet or hashtag about how you didn't do something right or used the word, wrong verb or then i can sit back and feel pretty good about myself, man, you see how woke i was? i called you out. [laughter]. that is not activism. that is not bringing about change. reporter: jimmy galley began sees things differently than president obama. mr. galigan has no regrets. if i never posted video nothing would never happen. because the internet never forgets the clip will be available to watch. i will remind myself you started something he said with satisfaction. you taught someone a lesson. mimi told "the times" she can't figure out how to convince people she is something different than that three second clip, jackie was recorded when she was 15 years old. jackie: leland, thank you for that. things to think about especially
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as young people are posting things. they don't get deleted. it is something to think about going forward. hard to change that perception once it is out there. leland vittert thank you so much for that. i want to switch gears, talk about a story that has been raising a lot of eyebrows. hilaria baldwin called out lie about her heritage, taking it seriously becoming sensitive bit on her instagram page. i want to play a clip that sort of got the ball rolling. >> ingredients. tomatoes. we have a cucumber. >> cucumbers. >> there has been some questions about where i'm born. i was born in boston. jackie: so you saw first clip there where she said, you know, how do you say cucumbers. wanted to say it in spanish, lee. there is issue when you look at her roots the articles are indicating she was born in boston, hillary thomas.
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she created a persona for hers self, pronouncing her name hilaria, saying her family was from spain and her family moved to spain during their retirement when she was 27 years old. she went to instagram posted videos, i tried to watch, trying to clarify things. i'm curious what you think about what her explanation was and why this is attracting so much attention? >> i think her explanation was preposterous quite frankly. if you listen to the explanation, basically blaming everybody else, look, i always had trouble being heard. no one understood my story. the whole thing is a sham. the pulled off the wool over all of our eyes a modern day great gates bi, created alternate universe, lifestyle, that is what she decided to do. now she has to deal with that. you can't blame other people. you told the story. got on national television.
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pretended to have accent. told the story. jackie: that is the thing, gianno. one of the articles i read mentioned on two of her own websites she said she was born in mallorca, spain. and she wasn't. she admitted she was born in fact in boston. she goes on to tell the story how her family lived in spain a long time. that is why she goes back and forth. raising her kids bilingual. it is important to have different cultures. i'm not necessarily poking holes what she is saying about that aspect of it but the facts are the facts, right? >> yeah. i just got one question, what do we call this english, iphone i think? sincerely this is something that i think she really should be ashamed of herself for. we've seen rachel dolezal, elizabeth warren, a lot of individuals want ad particular identity in order to benefit. for herr maybe it made her a bit
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more exotic to be spanish versus white. it is troubling where our culture has gone. it has gone in this direction for a number of years. we've seen a uptick of it in the obama administration, people wanted to be something other than what they were born to be and that is something very troubling. she needs to offer a sincere apology to try to change course but the damage is already done. jackie: it is interesting, because she said this one of the videos i saw last night, you can call me hillary or hill lar yaw, you can brown me whatever you want. she was speaking directly to viewers in the instagram story. that is we created a platform, people use a platform, get on a platform, identify themselves in any way they want. it doesn't really matter what anybody else thinks except for the people that are watching. i also note she has a lot of paid sponsorship posts for products. presumably she is making money off of this lee, too. >> there is no doubt about it. she is, she has made a brand for
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herself. this is all created also by a false narrative. jackie: yeah. >> the question i really have is, is she going to be canceled? how will she navigate this? when you look at story leland talking about, that girl is 15 years old. she won't recover. jackie: lee, we'll have to see if she is canceled. there has been a lot of backlash. guys, thank you for that. >> thank you. jackie: novavax is the latest company launching a phase three trial of its vaccine. the ceo is up next where the company stands on the testing ♪
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♪ ♪ jackie: welcome back to hour two of coast to coast, i'm jackie deangelis in for neil cavuto. stocks mixed after opening in record territory this morning. susan li is here. >> we started out in record territory for the stock market and wall street hopeful americans might get even bigger $2,000 checks. you also had a bright spot in the u.s. economy with the real estate boom, higher home praises and -- prices and sales at 14-year highs. the final days of the trading year, investors put more money into big stock the positions like the apples, microsoft and amazon to make the returns look even bigger for 2020. now, we also remember that we're
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in another holiday-shortened week, that means thin volume, and that tends to exaggerate moves up or down. speaking of going up, boeing's troubled 737 max is back in the skies taking off on commercial flights in the u.s. for the first time in almost two years. flight passengers onboard an american airlines flight from miami to new york this morning. now, flights, according to american, using the plane are mostly full, but american says that passengers will be alerted during boarding or ahead of schedule if the flight is using a 737 max, and passengers can opt off if they don't feel comfortable. united will introduce 737 max flights in february, southwest is targeting march. and finally, forget about flying commercial, billionaires like elon musk fly private, so musk's private plane was spotted landing in lanai, hawaii, the island that larry ellison happens to other own. miss -- musk was looking for
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advice from ellison, both have chosen texas to be the home of tesla's cyber truck factory and oracle's headquarters. musk himself has moved to austin, but ellison prefers the sand, the beach and the sun of lanai instead. and, jackie, if you want to track the and trace my g5 and where i'm landing on hawaii, feel flee to do so. -- feel free to do so. jackie: must be nice, or right? good to see you, susan. all right, the latest stimulus bill includes $284 billion for another troubled of payment protection -- round of payment protection loans, but there are some new rules for who gets the help this time around. jeff flock joins us with what business owners need to know before they apply. >> reporter: yeah. typically we think, jackie, this is going to be good. the phone ringing off the hook at a place that's the quince essential small business -- quintessential small business. this is a place where, i don't know, pam bart leapt, this is
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where you come you drink some wine, you learn how to paint. if your painting is bad, you don't care because you're drinking wine. as much as we joke, you really relied on that first ppp round, and you're going to apply again. >> yes, i'm going to apply again, and the first round really saved our business. it helped to pay employees, pay the rent, so we're looking forward to the next round of the ppp money. >> reporter: i want to show you some of the changes now. as we said, they fried to improve it -- tried to improve it like the things you can deduct on your taxes. operations, this time they're going to allow riot damage if you've had any, you know, if you were broken into or something, supplier costs as well as last time you couldn't write off pppe, not ppp, ppe, but, you know, the masks we are wearing and that sort of thing. this kicks in, we think, january 6th or thereabouts, that's because that's when the rules are going to be propagated. and, of course, who -- where do
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you go to get it? your banks, your credit unions, that sort of thing. you already had a relationship that you developed after the first round came, huh? >> right, right. i switched to a new bank, naperville bank and trust, and they were able to help me with the ppp money, and i'm in contact with them again for the next round. >> reporter: as you know, jackie, the first time things were a bit of a mess if right at the first part of the first round of pppe -- or first round of ppe, but this time they think it's going to go much smoother. by the way, this time also -- boy, they've got a lot of business here, sorry you're not able to answer the phone. this time they're going to exclude, by the way, and some people see this as a major positive too, political lobbying groups, any kind of lobbying as well as any kind of political organizations not eligible for ppp as well as any companies that deal extensively with china, as well as any companies that have a chinese citizens on
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their board. excluded from the ppp program this time. time for painting and wine, plans. jackie: yeah. there was definitely some missteps the first time around because they tried to roll it around so fast, but it sounds like the process is more secure this time going forward. a lot of businesses continuing to need the help. thank you so much for that report. >> reporter: thank you. jackie: all right. more stimulus, is it the answer for the markets and the economy in 2021, or is easing restrictions a long or-term solution? let's get to fox news contributor john layfield and "wall street journal" associate editor john bussey. john, john and john. john bussey, let's go ahead and start with you and talk about this. you know, going into 2021 the market is saying we do like the stimulus, but we also want to see recovery happening at the same time. and so that's going to be really important to stay on track. the vaccine helps us get there. how long do you think it takes? >> so everybody wants recovery
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to happen, and there's not a single state out there that would not like to not have to lockdown. but the stimulus isn't driving that and economic activity isn't driving that. the virus is driving that. hospitalizations are at a record level again. the vaccines are available now, but there's all sorts of glitches in the rollout. they're way behind schedule in getting the volume of vaccines that they had planned to have in people's hands to be advantage any sated into the -- vaccinated into the hospitals and long-term care centers. there's a long way to go. it's going to be driven by the virus, jackie. i think, you know, this notion that states are just lock aring down for the sake of locking down doesn't really make any sense. it doesn't make any sense for them. they need the economic activity and, clearly, the nation does too. and until we do a much, much better job at a national level of actually addressing the virus, getting people to wear
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masks, wash your hands, keep distances, not get together in groups, we're going to continue to have this problem. we're going of to have to have more stimulus programs and run up more debt. jackie: john layfield, the dow's down 115 points. we started on track for new records today, it was close to 30,600, and now we're at 30,287. the downturn came when we heard that we were going to talk of the $2,000 checks on the floor. chuck schumer brought it up, said he wanted to vote today. mitch mcconnell saying at least for the time being that's not going to happen. and the dow is now at a suggestion low. when it come -- session low. end when it comes to stimulus, the $2,000 already seems to be baked into the cake here. >> i think it is baked into the cake, and i agree with john, this is all about the vaccine and how quickly we're able to get some hrd immunity. -- herd immunity. the vaccine is much slow orer than what we expected, so i
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think it's going to be pushed back a couple months until we have normalcy. i also think the stimulus bill has a rot more importance -- a lot more importance perhaps than what john thinks. without the first stimulus bill, companies go bankrupt. they have been on life support, and the only way we can get them across this chasm is the next stimulus bill. i think it's the lack of stimulus that will move a ton on the downside. jackie: yeah. it's going to be interesting to see how this stake -- shakes out. the markets will be closed on friday for the new year's holiday. you could be seeing some profit taking here as well. gentlemen, thank you so much. we'll see you both a little bit later. there's another breakthrough on the vaccine front that's really important. novavax announcing it will gun a phase three trial in the united states marking the fifth such shot in the country to reach that key final stage of testing.
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joining me now, novavax and ceo stan erk. great of to have you with us today. your candidate the fifth to go into stage three trials, already in stage three trials, you've started that in the u.k. where we're experiencing and seeing a huation as well. until -- mutation as well. tell me how you're looking at the data you're collecting and how you think your timeline will proceed. >> well, thanks for having me. so this is our third efficacy trial we're starting. we started the first one as a phase 2b and 4400 volunteers in south africa. that trial, we've vaccinated -- we've finished enrolling, and now we're waiting like everybody else you collect cases, and when you get to a certain level, then you unblind. so our expectations are tweel be doing that in january. a few weeks later we started a phase three with 15,000 people
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in the u.k. the virus has been very, very powerful. there are mutations in both of those countries, and so we're running to trial right in the middle of a very serious pandemic outbreak in those countries with the mutated virus. so we expect data from the u.k. trial as well in january, and we just started, as you said, a phase three trial in the u.s. a couple of days ago. and that trial is designed also to test efficacy of the vaccine in 30,000 people, and we hope to have visibility to that trial later in the first quarter. but the key efficacy outcomes are going to be in south africa and the u.k. in a few weeks. jack jack okay -- jackie: okay. there's two key issues when it comes to the novavax product here. pfizer and moderna, they've got -- they're sort of producing those, those vaccines are producing the ain't general within the human body creating a mechanism of defense to, you
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know, get the virus. but when it comes to novavax one, you're manufacturing your own antigens. so it doesn't necessarily leave the patient, the person taking it, susceptible to becoming ill or possibly more side effects. and while the other two have to be frozen in those special freezers which makes this many harder to distribute, yours only has to be refrigerated. >> that's true, those are both -- well, the second one probably is the most important right now, because pfizer and moderna have done a great job with bringing their vaccines into the clinic and into the market. it's very protective. they do have different side effect profiles than ours. ours has been very debenign in the phase one and phase two trials, so we're happy with that. but importantly, ours is also a very stable protein that's using a manufacturing platform that we've used for other coronavirus vaccines, ebola, and so we're
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very comfortable with the platform. we can scale it at high production levels, and it's stable, and it can be shipped and used and refrigerated, standard refrigerator temperatures globally. and we're doing something unprecedented which is to small up manufacturing -- scale up manufacturing in eight different countries at the same time. so we'll get global production, global distribution in not only the high income countries, but also low and middle income countries. jackie: the vaccine you're working on is also a two-shot regimen. we've seen that with pfizer and moderna as well. we're used to taking our flu shot just one time. why is it that you need two regardless of what the approach is with respect to the vaccine? >> well, when you get your flu shot, all you're doing is you're getting a boost from last year's flu shot. you get the prime shot, and every year you get a boost. and this is no different. i mean, vaccines work this way. your first shot is a priming shot, the same thing when
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newborns and young kids get their shots, they get them in a series, prime, boost, and that's what you're doing here. so this is -- you get such a more robust immune response on the second dose, and so that's, that's standard technology. jackie: final question in just the 30 seconds that we have left, when it comes to the mutation we're seeing in the u.k., we've been told the pfizer and moderna vaccines will be able to handle that. does that help you with respect to development of your product, to really hone it in, to tailor it to some of these variations? >> well, i think it'll prove of the point that our vaccine will work against -- we expect it to work against multiple mutations. viruses mutate all the time, particularly what are called rna-based viruses. and we just demonstrated in a phase three pivotal trial a few months ago with flu which, as everybody knows, mutates every year, we demonstrated very broad neutralizing power, and we with
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expect to do the same with covid. jackie: stan e rck, thank you so much for your time and good luck with everything. >> you bet. jackie: there is a new class of republicans coming into congress, and they are looking to take back the house by taking on the squad. one of those freshman members joins us next. muck i'm losing my mind just a little. ♪ so why don't you just meet me in the middle ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ jackie: a push for the peach state. we are just one week away from the georgia senate runoff elections. millions of ballots have already been cast early. fox news correspondent steve harrigan in atlanta with more for us. steve. >> reporter: that's right, jackie. early voting underway, continues through thursday. already more than 2.3 million people have voted, to compare that to november, it's about a 75% rate as the general election. one lawyer where thering -- area where there has been heavy turnout, the democratic suburbs around atlanta. jon ossoff says the reason is a strong democratic ground game. >> we are running the largest get out the vote effort in american history. we have called more than 5 million georgia voters in recent weeks. we are knocking on tens of
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thousands of doors per day. and all of this turnout effort -- this money isn't just going to television ads, this is turnout work and voter protection work. >> reporter: republican senator kelly loeffler says the stakes for georgia and the u.s. simply could not be any i higher. >> the future of the country is on the ballot here in georgia. we're the battleground, we're the firewall for stopping socialism. ravenel warnock and jon ossoff would be a rubber stamp for chuck schumer 's radical agenda to reshape this country into something unrecognizable. >> reporter: president trump will come to northwest georgia monday, on the eve of the election, to try and drive rural republican turnout. jackie, back to you. jackie: steve, thank you so much. forget9 the battle in georgia, there's a battle in d.c. over taking oh the house -- over the house. the freshman class in congress looking to band together against the fraud. to florida congressman-elect
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carlos him e necessary on what the republican force preparing for here. and this is really interesting because there was a red wave, if you will, in the house, and a lot of women joining forces as well. you guys are looking to do something different here as we with move forward. >> yeah. we're looking to resonate arguments against what the squad is trying to do. the squad is, obviously, socialist. they want to defund the police, they want to eliminate our private health insurance. there's a lot of, you know, radical ideas that they want to do, and we have bonded together folks that either came from socialist countries, actually lived there or are children of folks that left those countries. and so that's the reason why we're kind of bonded together, and we're going to be a force to be reckoned with. jackie: congressman-elect, you wring up a great -- bring up a great point that the experiences you've had with communist or
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socialism whether direct or indirect puts you in a position to really understand what the ramifications are. and there are so many in this country that want to see a little bit of a shift not really understanding how it plays out. how do you get that messaging out to folks to educate them so that they understand for themselves? >> well, i think that, you know, we have, we have personal experiences that we can talk about. it's not some theoretical stuff. i mean, i actually lived in cuba during the takeover and the revolution. and the transformation of my country was not for the good. it, you know, cuba in 1959 was pretty much on par with the united states, and now cuba is really a third world country, and the people are suffering, and there's a lack of food and medicine, all kinds of different things. you know, they promise you the world when they tell you everybody's going to be the same. yeah, everyone's going to be the same all right, they're all going to live in misery. and you can also look at venezuela, what happened there. that is the richest country in
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terms of natural resources in south america, and now they can't, they don't have food, they don't have medicine and, basically, it's missly for everybody. -- misery for everybody. that's what ultimately comes from it. they promise you the moon, and they give you something quite different. jackie: somebody like aoc is very outspoken, congressman-elect, and she's got even, you know, you could say a sharp tongue the whether it's interviews that she does or things that she's posting on twitter. you know, when it comes to the four of you taking on the four of them, how do you see this battle shaping out? >> it's a battle of ideas, it's a battle of where this country's going to go and the future of this country. there's a reason why my parents brought me here when i was 6 years old to this country to escape socialism, communism, those kinds of ideas. the squad, i think, is all theoretical. they think it sounds great, it must be great, we can try a different way. but, you know, this argument and
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these experiments have been going on for a long time, and they've never been successful. so we come from a place where we've got experience. we're trying to make sure this country never gets there because we came to this country for a reason. and this country has given us the opportunity, you know, and the great american dream to dream whatever, whatever you can dream up. where elsewhere a kid came here not speaking a word of english comes to this country and eventually comes not only the mayor of miami-dade county, the largest county in the state of florida, but also a u.s. congressman? that doesn't happen very often in other parts of the world. it's because, you know, of the greatness of america. we want to make sure that america, you know, remains great and continues to be even greater. of. jackie: and that those opportunities still exist to be able to achieve your dreams -- >> absolutely. jackie: really wonderful to hear your story. congressman-elect, we'll be hearing more from you. thank you so much. >> thank you.
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jackie: the pandemic has put millions of americans behind on rent payments. the covid relief package president trump signed provides $25 billion in rent relief, but it doesn't provide any direct relief for landlords. kristina partsinevelos is in new york. and, kristina, the landlords are going to need some help. this has been tough. >> reporter: yes, because somebody still has to pay the bills. you have tennants, no doubt, are struggling. and that's why lawmakers have come forward with direct relief and moratoriums on evictions, but opponents are saying an extension of the federal moratorium on evictions until at least january 31st doesn't really help landlords because they still have to pay their
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taxes and their utility bills. >> we've got the small mom and pops, and they own a property or two, and they could end up in real trouble. they could lose their life savings, they could lose everything. and i think that's, i think they're really on the verge of that happening at this point. >> reporter: mom and pop own roughly about -- or landlords own roughly 40% of the properties across the country, fewer than ten buildings, and black and latinos are struggling to pay their more -- mortgages as their communities are disproportionately affected by the pandemic. here in new york you have lawmakers putting forward a new bill that would ban evictions for 60 days. if tenants still are struggling to make ends meet and won't be able to pay their rent, there is an option they may not be able to pay the rent until may 1st. there is no doubt that so many americans are struggling across the country.
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we know roughly 9 million renters or 23% of the total rental population haven't caught up with the rent and are falling behind. but you have a situation where the lawmakers have provided rent relief and forgiveness for tenants, but landlords have only been offers for appearance which means they're going to have to pay those mortgages down the line. jackie: the only option is to negotiate with the bank, and that's tough to do right now. kristina, thank you. well, office landlords are hoping widespread vaccinations can get employees back to the office. back with us, john layfield, john bus is city. what happened -- john bussey. what happened what happens if the landlords can't make money to meet the payments? what happens, john layfield, if people opt not to come back because they've within successful -- been successful working at home this. >> i don't think we're necessarily going to see that. i don't agree life's going to change forever.
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i think within 18 months we're going to see handshakes, people hugging, we're not going to see a mask in sight. you see this 18-24 months after life gets back to normal, and i think people will return to these commercial real estate buildings for work. the problem that you have though as far as your landlord and real estate, and i would hate to be in commercial real estate right now, 259 billion bonds right now are backing real estate, and i just don't have much faith we're going to have much success in getting those bonds paid back. the problem you have is these businesses have learned they can work remote. they don't need to have a fifth avenue presence just to uphold an image. i think that's changing and really hurts commercial real estate. jackie: and, john, 18 months is a really long time. say everything was to go back to normal, of course, if i was a business opener and i recognize these cost efficiencies of having my employees at home, salaries are even coming down as a result of it because the
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employees are receiving perks, you would have to think about readjusting your business mold as you move forward. -- model as you move forward. why wouldn't you do that? >> that's a great question, and i think the answer to that is that they are, they're going to. and john's right, you know, look, 12-18 months, whatever it is that there's sufficient herd immunity, and it's going to take a combination of people, unfortunately, having caught the disease and then vaccinations for those who haven't, it probably is, you probably are talking 12, 18 months, there's a huge, you know, pent-up demand for interaction. maybe it's at a lower rate that commercial real estate landlords can charge and that residential apartment landlords can charge as well. but there will be kind of a resurgence of activity in urban centers. but what you're pointing out is absolutely correct. businesses and people who are kind of running balance sheets have found that, you know, people working home, it's
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cheaper. a lot of people want to work from home. they don't want to work in the urban center, it costs too much. so businesses are talking about building a hub and spoke system. you might have a smaller footprint downtown or in a more expensive place, but then the you have satellite offices in the suburbs or in other parts of the country where people can check in. and that's going to put pressure on prices for commercial real estate in the urban centers, but it creates lots of new opportunities for businesses to find talent around the country. jackie: and, john layfield, mentioning the urban areas, for example, in new york city where so many people are left and moved out not because of the pandemic, but because of the quality of life issues, because of the crime we're experiencing as well. cities that have been hit hard like ours, how long do you think it'll take them to recover as opposed to a more normal city where after 18 months people start going back to business as usual this. >> the problem with new york, it's separate from a lot of big
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cities. about 44,000 people pay over half of the tax in the city. is so if you have a big migration of people moving out of city in that high 1%, you're going to have the tax base destroyed. and i'm not sure how long that's going to take new york to recover. the one thing that you talk about with the landlords, my father used to be a community banker in west texas. when it wouldn't rain, crop -- farm ors couldn't pay their loans. dad didn't want the bank to take over the property. these land lords are going to have to figure out a way to keep these people in these businesses because there's not somebody behind them that wants to get that property. i don't think you're going to see mass evictions because of that. jackie: gentlemen, thank you so much. really appreciate it today. >> you bet. jackie: all right. of new york officials are opening a criminal investigation into a brooklyn clinic accused of fraudulently obtaining and also distributing the covid-19 vaccine. fox news correspondent bryan
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llenas is with us in brooklyn with those details. >> reporter: jackie, good afternoon. park harris clinics serviced 2300 doses of the moderna vaccine two weeks ago and administered more than 850 shots to health care workers, people over the age of 60 and anyone who has any underlying medical conditions. but now new york's attorney general, louisiana are tissue shah james, is investigating questions that it wrongfully gave and administered the covid-19 vaccine to the general public, ignoring the state guidelines that specified that the fest round of -- first round of vaccines should go to front-line health care workers and long-term care residents saying, quote: in order for thing vaccine to be most effective in protecting our community, we must all follow the same distribution plans. we will not tolerate attempts to circumvent that process. they could face falsifying business record charges for
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misrepresenting itself in order to receive vaccines true the state of -- through the state of new york. >> we provided them the vaccine because they fraudulently fulled out a form that said they were a qualified health center. that was incorrect. that's strike one. and, number two, they moved it from one area to another area which was inappropriate, so that's strike two. and then they gave it to people who were not on the priority list, and so that was strike three. >> reporter: now, they provided this packing slip to fox news showing that they received the vaccine legally through new york's department of health, and they say they received verbal confirmation from the department of health to distribute it throughout their clinics mainly here this brooklyn. governor andrew cuomo, jackie, signed an executive order yesterday making vaccine fraud punishable by up to a million dollar fine, the revocation of state licenses and even potentially prosecuting patients who received a vaccine when they knew that they should not have
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at this point. jackie? jackie: so interesting. pfizer limited, these kinds of things do happen. bryan, thank you so much for reporting on that story. we also have a programming note to until you about. "making money" host charles payne is going to host a special town hall, the future of capitalism, on january 13th at 2 p.m. eastern time. if you have a question about what capitalism might look like in the new year and in a new administration, viewers can message fox business on facebook or on instagram or even e-mail us your question at invested in you@foxbusiness.com. all right, california covid cases are spiking despite lockdowns. what's behind that surge still ahead. ♪
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♪ ♪ jack jack california governor gavin gavin newsom expected to extend stay at home orders as covid cases are rising, but some
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californians are pushing back. fox news correspondent anita vogel has the latest for us. >> reporter: hi, jackie. you know, there's not much holiday cheer for most of california anytime soon. in fact, l.a.'s stay at home order was already extended on sunday night. the latest round of strict lockdowns was supposed to expire yesterday, but california governor gavin gavin newsom had been hinting he would extend the orders. this past weekend they hit the grim milestone of more than 2 million confirmed covid cases and more than 24,000 deaths across the state. for lockdowns to be lifted, a region within the state has to have icu capacity projections above or equal to 15%. but take a look at these numbers. northern california's capacity projections are reported to be 28.3%, so that's pretty good. the greatest sacramento region and the bay area are right near that 15%. but southern california and the san joaquin valley, that's the
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central california area, stand at 0% capacity in the icu. and that is what is standing in the way of opening outdoor dining and many oh things -- other things in southern california. >> it is clear and understandable that it's likely those stay at home orders will be extended. but, again, based upon the data, that determination will be made. >> it's been a frustrating year, for sure. the ups and downs, opens and closes and all regulations have been really hard. >> and they're ruining the economy. they're breaking the people who own these small businesses. >> reporter: so a lot of resentment out there. but there is this sad note. l.a. county officials saying 148 people died here on christmas eve. and over the weekend, patients were reportedly turned away from emergency rooms as hospitals were overrun with patients leaving ambulances with nowhere to unload e the is sick.
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many hospitals across the state are canceling elective surgeries. kaiserrer permanente has canceled all non-urgent surgeries with the exception of cancer-related proceed yours until sometime after january 10th. jackie, back to you. jackie: anita vogel, thank you so much. of course, those cases continuing to rise in california despite the lockdowns and the increased lockdowns that we're seeing there. to new york post columnist carol markowitz on if this is proof that the lockdowns are not necessarily the answer. you know, you heard governor newsom there, and anita laid it out really nicely for us. the lockdowns aren't working, right? cases are going up, people are dying, the icu beds are not there, so at what point do they say we need to shift gears here, because people are socializing indoors, right? and that's the problem. >> that's exactly it. i think we need to dissociate the idea that a lockdown means you're serious about doing something about covid. i'm very serious about fighting
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covid. i think there's a lot of things we should be doing that we're not doing, but i think lockdowns have universally failed. i think that, you know, when you close outdoor dining, you're pushing people inside their homes where they're more likely to contract covid. so we really need to be more thoughtful about this, and be much better if the politicians instead of saying mask up and stay home which nobody is doing including governor newsom, i think they say, look, you don't need to wear masks when you're hiking by yourself, but when you're close to people indoors. they don't do that. they give this universal guideline which nobody can keep to, and so it ends up failing. jackie: it's so interesting because it's like the parent and child conundrum, right? if you don't like your kid's boyfriend and the more you tell them to stay away from him, the more your daughter is just going to run in that direction. and that's what seems to be happening here. you can't go to the restaurants, and they're telling people they shouldn't socialize, and they're
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running to do it inside, and it's causing some of the problem. but to your point, if you actually had the restaurant ises and everybody policing each other out in the open, there's some accountability to your fellow citizens to follow the rules. >> yeah. look, and we've also, we know there's a difference between outside and inside and for a long time people pointed to florida's relatively low covid death numbers especially compared to states that locked down like new york did, and florida hasn't locked down, you know, opened a long time ago at this point. and they say, well, it's the weather. the weather in florida makes it better and easier, but the weather's similar in california and many parts in california, and yet we're not seeing the same result. part of that is because we're dissuading people from being outside. go outside, know you don't have to wear your mask when you're not near anybody outside. that should be a major thing because nobody can wear a mask 24 hours a day. we may as well tell people to wear it when they're actually at risk. jackie: you bring up a great
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point because last week in new york city we had a foot of snow on the ground, and i still saw people in eskimo coats and hats and trying to have their meal outside. and so many restaurants are just trying to keep the doors open and keep employees on the payroll, that's why we're trying to do this, just to hang on. and then you look at florida and the beautiful weather there and california, beautiful weather too, and say why are these two states doing things differently? meantime, you've got an exodus out of california by a lot of residents going to some of these red states, and people not really understanding what the policies are that are pushing this many away. them away. >> yeah. look, we're social creatures. it's not march anymore. we're at the end of december. it's been a long, hard year. we need our friends and family. we just need to find a way to do it in a safer way, and it'd be so much smarter if the politicians would push that line instead of universal, blanket stay-home lockdown policy. the lockdowns are -- [audio difficulty] politicians need to face that. jackie: carol, great to see you.
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jackie: new year's eve is going to looka lot different this year, but that's not stopping some from trying to wring the party to you. the owner of the iconic 1 times square where the new year ball usually dropped, that celebration that we see in times square, is launching a virtual app to ring in the new year in times square from your couch or wherever you are. let's bring in the man behind the mission, jamestown properties president michael phillips. michael, there are many people who are looking to say good riddance to 2020. it has been a tough year by all accounts, and the fact that you're making the ball drop virtual, it might help in some ways for people to commemorate the occasion, that we are turning the page on this calendar. >> yes, i mean, it's become clear that we've need to figure out a safe and socially
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distanced way for people to celebrate. the 1 + million people who come every year to new york, to have an alternative. we still have all the same central stages and cameras and sort of rolling ticking the time around the world as it comes to a close, the year comes to a close, but we've added this virtual experience which allows people to engage from home. jackie: you know, you look at the pictures that we're showing of the crowd there, and as a new yorker myself that understands and has seen the ball drop in times square so often, you even just can feel it when you're in other parts of the city when it's actually happening. for people who are in california or used to watching on t it may not be as significant, but it's tough to imagine times square empty this year. >> yeah, you know, the pandemic has forced us, all of us, to engage in new ways technology, and the idea that we can augment through virtual reality and
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augmented reality this-person experience -- the in-person experience might add a dimension that is new for people even in california and elsewhere that are looking to engage. jackie: and so you can do this basically by just downloading an app that's simple technology on your iphone or ipad and go from there? >> that's right. so it's dnye.com, it's the web, and it's available on all the app stores. and you can go online and create an avatar and go to dance parties and see concerts and watch what's happening around the globe in other markets as well. and then there's several game functions as well which allow you to engage from children to grandparents and to be with your family and friends virtually. jackie: real quick, in ten seconds, is there any way to monetize this? >> you know, for us now it's about just providing is access and the opportunity for folks. we, separately we have a, you
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know, a game partner who is running tournaments at the same time, but that's -- but the app is designed as the experience in times square is designed to be free to everyone. jackie: all right. we'll be looking for it and to see how that progresses. thank you so much for doing that and making it accessible. we appreciate that. good to see you. >> thank you. yeah, appreciate it. happy new year. jackie: happy new year. dow, s&p on pace to snap a three-day win streak after stocks are pulling back from record highs. the dow down 59 points. more "cavuto coast to coast" after this. muck we'll make it, i swear -- ♪ oh, living on a prayer a must in your medicine cabinet! less sick days! cold coming on? zicam® is clinically proven to shorten colds! highly recommend it! zifans love zicam's unique zinc formula. . . t
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♪. jackie: another record breaking season for amazon. the company said it delivered 1.5 billion toys, household goods during the rush. amazon not releasing the dollar amount that it generated. amazon merchants reported $4.48 billion of sales from black friday through cyber monday. that was a 60% surge over last year. stocks of course retreating after hitting all-time highs. the pullback worsening after senate majority leader mitch mcconnell objected to senator chuck schumer's request that the senate approve $2000 stimulus
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paints by unanimous consent. a growing number of republicans expected to push for an up-or-down vote on the house bill in the coming days. so the saga is not over yet. we have the dow down 67 points. thanks for watching. i will be back tomorrow filling in for neil. right now to you, lauren. lauren: good to see you, jackie. i'm lauren simonetti in for charles payne. this is making "money." breaking right now, the market, it us faltering as it tries to extend its year-end rally. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell just poured cold water on the 2000-dollar stimulus checks. we have the plays to consider with or without the extra cash. joe biden planning to spend trillions on economic revival after calling for entitlement cuts in the past. steve moore is here. when

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