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stuart: most intriguing story of the day, the surge in plastic surgery. did you catch this? we actually got jeff flock into a plastic surgery office. that young lady had agreed to do a botox injection on camera. how he did that i don't know. with all of us on zoom, a lot of us want to change the way we look. time's up for me. neil, it is yours. neil: there is not enough surgery in the world to help me out. looks intriguing. i will leave it at that stuart, thank you very much my friend. here pre on impeachment day the second go round for the president. the markets are shrugging. it is a second article of impeachment here, it comes down to this, the president gravely endangered the security of the united states and its institutions of government. what makes it more telling a number of republicans, at least five of them will go along with this to make it a bipartisan
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effort. where it goes from here is anyone's guess. the vote is expected later tonight. i heard of speed dating. i guess they call this speed impeaching. mike emanuel with the latest where all this is going. hey, michael. reporter: neil, in matter of hours we expect the democrat-led house to impeach president trump for the second time exactly one week after the riot on capitol hill. >> this was not a protest. this was an insurrection. this was a well-organized attack on our country that was incited by donald trump. reporter: five house republicans say they are a yes on impeachment. liz cheney, wyoming, john katko of new york, adam kinzinger of illinois, fred upton of michigan an jamie herrera from washington. some. president's allies are saying stand strong. saying the president is being
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treated unfairly. >> americans are tired of double standard. democrats objected more than republicans did last in 2016 but. reporter: others say the process is rushed with no hearings, no witnesses, and unnecessary. >> we're coming off a horrific event that resulted in six deaths. we have an opportunity to move forward but we cannot if the majority insists on bringing the country through the trauma of another impeachment. reporter: democrats should have the votes to pass the impeachment article tore for crenocytement of. >> this is sad time in the history of our country. no one is celebrating. no one wants to see this occur. reporter: expecting 10 to 20
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republicans to break ranks and vote to impeach. neil? neil: nike emanuel, thank you very, very much. the timeline on this is a vote later on this afternoon. it could come anywhere from three to 5:00 p.m. eastern time. again, the democrats have the votes. they even have five republican votes we are told. we're going to be watching very, very closely how many more join the likes of liz cheney, rob katko and others. go to gerry baker, "the wall street journal at large" host. crackerjack host. gerry, good to have you. look at what is at stake. in a column you got into the notion there is lot of justifiable grounds to go after the president but there is lot of hypocrisy on particular zeal here. what stood out in my mind how fast they can move when they really wanted to move.
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if they had run at this pace to get a stimulus package through we would be shocked? >> yeah. neil, thanks for having me. yes, they are clearly, look they do see, look, obviously there is an element of politics in this. there already is. democrats already impeached the president. i think democrats earlier efforts, successful efforts to impeach in house of representatives are probably hurting them now. it is very easy to characterize this as a partisan move as deplorable as the president's behavior was, be quite frank, it was absolutely deplorable. a lot of republicans say these are democrats trying to impeach. the reason, the haste, first of all the events were themselves so shocking and so deplorable that it needs immediate action. secondly, their argument is there is continuing danger from the president in the final week of office to the, to
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constitutional arrangements. he hasn't really properly expressed remorse for what he did. what he said yesterday his behavior was completely appropriate. some of his supporters are still saying the legislation was stolen, indeed, one congressman, congresswoman yesterday said the president will continue to be president. there is a case that the democrats are saying. we need to move quickly. we can get this done. maybe, big question what will happen in the senate? will they take it up when they resume on the 19th? when chuck schumer takes over on the 20th, as senate leader will he put it off. we don't know what will happen. the house has the ability to move and clearly what it is doing. neil: you talk about that, one of the things that stood out earlier this week, you wrote, president's words were actually incitement to violent insurrection could be debated by lawyers but no doubt repeated
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false claims about the election provided the fuel for the metaphorical arsonist whose work he inspired. i see it as a step further, gerry, where a lot of republicans are seizing on this as a way to rid themselves of the trump shadow once and for all. i don't know what is going to happen to the united states senate. i find it intriguing if we're to believe "the new york times" he likes what the house is doing. what do you make of that, there is more republican undercurrent to this than we give credit? >> neil, i don't know what mitch mcconnell is thinking. i haven't spoken to him. i saw "the new york times" article too. wouldn't surprise me at all if what that story said is correct which is that this is an opportunity not only does he think the behavior is unacceptable and open to impeachment what he said, this is opportunity to rid the party of donald trump. if he were to be convicted in the senate, there is double process they would have to convict him in the senate with 2/3 majority and move to expel
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him, disqualify him from ever having federal office ever again. i suspect -- neil: by the way, gerry, on that, that can only happen, barring him for running for office again if the senate votes for this as well, right? barring that -- >> exactly. first of all it has to vote to convict him of the impeachment charge. neil: right. >> which the house would be putting to it. which requires a 2/3 majority in the senate. so 17 republicans would have to support that. but then, if he does that, only if he does that after 17 republican, senators 67 vote majority in the senate only after it could do that, move to disqualify him which would be require simple majority. one assumes if they vote to uphold the impeachment conviction. it would require a simple majority. democrats have a simple majority with the catsing vote of kamala harris. there is political logic to that. the question they have to weigh up is, do they want to do that
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really inflame president trump's supporters? president trump has tremendous amounts of the supporters we know that they're, a lot of them are not die-hard republican supporters. a lot will go with president trump rather than stay with republicans. one of the things would do to expel president trump disqualify him from running again, expelling him from the republican party, running risk president trump would run his own party, millions and millions of trump supporters would go with president trump rather than the republican party. neil: gerry, always a pleasure. thank you very much. gerry, thank you for all your hard work on monday in my absence. i rushed back the next day in case of job security. great job, my friend. many thanks. >> your job is very, very safe. i certainly -- neil: oh, no, no. look what is going on with the president. haven't you heard? gerry baker, always fun my friend. gerry baker. thank you. gerry touched on this before.
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if you look at the market what is constitutional crisis, right? i know you're getting tired of hearing this. this is the same way the markets were behaving. in fact they behaved better in the last week in the middle of those riots in washington, d.c., that turned very, very violent as you know. they're more than holding their own today. remarkable testament, markets that i know, smart people like john layfield like to remind me are looking way to the future, not in the here and now. aforementioned mr. layfield joined us now, republican fund-raiser. political action committee fund-raiser as well. noelle good to have you. tell me about the market that seems to have a collective shrug on monumental developments in washington. it is obviously seeing past it. what? >> look at political scandals in history. they had very little effect on the market. andrew johnson the first president to be impeached.
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market trended along. watergate. iran-contra, bill clinton's impeachment. the market trended with political scandals, market looking at economy, what is going on as far as our business in the united states. most importantly right now is the fed. the fed is telling you that you need to invest in the stock market. so i think you're going to see money stays in the stock market. you may see a sector rotation. things may move you have to have the vaccine before sectors move. i think money will stay in the market because that is what the fed is telling us. neil: you know, noelle i am glad to have you on today, i'm curious whether you went down in georgia whether you blame the president for that? lot of people say they lost the senate, lost these two seats, because the president and this fight against the voting, going after officials in georgia, republican officials. that ultimately cost those seats? one of them could have gone but not both of them under any other
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circumstances. what do you say? >> yes. i absolutely do and that is the feeling from a lot of my donors. the fact that he came down and he has a habit, president trump does of getting off point so to speak. and while he was campaigning for kelly loeffler and purdue he would get off track and talk bun unfair elections and his election specifically. that doesn't help and reminds some of his base how upset they need to continue being about his election results. which probably does not help aid in getting them motivated to get out and vote again on another election. so to your point i think that there were a lot of republicans that donated to a lot of the
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pacs that were very upset when he was coming down two days before. some people thought it might rally the vote but we all knew that when he got in front of the crowd he was probably going to veer off topic. neil: yeah. i do remember you saying that kind of language wasn't helpful. you were prescient about that. i do want to go back to you, john. noelle, on another issue, the fact that now some companies and entities are avoiding to give anyone that had anything would do to stop the steal effort, challenging the electoral vote count, it is pretty widespread among some of the largest companies and usual gop, you know, supporters ever, who are all declining to give money. i'm just wondering whether that is a worry, lasts more than just a little while? >> well, there is nothing more that gets a candidate's attention than cutting off funds. that is one way to you know, get
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a rein on what they feel some of these politicians have gone rogue. you know, i think what's happened, especially with trump, in the case of pretty much the fight for the republican party, which way it is going to go, it became harder and harder, neil, to separate the man, trump, and his policies because for a long time corporations and different donors and different people were saying, we don't really care for his personality but we love his policies. that became thinner and thinner to where it was as one. you really just could not separate the two and you really just couldn't stand up and fight that fight, you know, and put your money towards it too. i think that the, a lot of these politicians are going to learn that they're not going to get funding from a lot of these corporations. you're going to see more and
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more individual major donors that will be like, no way. neil: yeah. john layfield a week away to a biden administration taking hold. behind the scenes he and his people are going through what will be aggressive stimulus measures to beef up on money already doled out, we're told 2,000-dollar checks going to americans. we don't know which americans, how many will get them. more unemployment benefit relief, that sort of thing, could easily top a trillion dollars. your thoughts on hikely market reaction to all of that as well? >> i think market reaction, neil, will be very good, very positive for the president but soon will be president biden administration. you don't like a consolidation of power in all three branches. democrats. traditionally that has been bad for the market. look what happened in 2009. president obama, then vice president biden put off the tax cuts for a couple years because they knew it could hurt the economy and be not be
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politically palatable. neil: tax hikes you mean? >> thank you for correcting me. tax hikes because they knew it wouldn't be politically palpable. huge amounts of stimulus going into the economy including these 2000-dollar checks. we'll not see the tax hikes, certainly doesn't look like for the foreseeable future. this is good as far as the market is concerned. neil: all right. guys, thank you very, very much. meantime you're looking at corner of wall and broad where the dow is barely budging. this orderly presentation of a single article of impeachment against president of the united states. unprecedented the president will essentially be impeached twice at least for the house of representatives. where it goes in the senate is anyone's guess. it really calls for this. incitement of insurrection. that had it not been for the president's divisive words he gravely endangered the security
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neil: the scene on the left of your screen on the floor of the, well of the house right now where the house is taking up impeaching the president of the united states for the second time. no other president has gone through this twice but this president is. there is a lot of republican support, at least more than you would normally think, what is amounting to a bipartisan effort to send a message to the president. don't know if goes much further, debatable whether the senate can take any of this up but among republican congressman and women who are looking impeaching the president, liz cheney, we've got ron katko, adam kinzinger, fred upton, jamie herrera, many more, they want to send a message to the president in waning days of this administration. more could follow this group.
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tom reed of new york is not among them. but that does not mean he is not against con delling and censoring president. that is the way to go. congressman a pleasure to have you. thank you for taking the time. >> great to be with you, neil. neil: there does seem to be a little bit more willingness on the part of republicans to consider this, if we're to believe a "new york times," story, congressman that mitch mcconnell is pleased what he sees the house doing right now and democrats leading what do you make of all of this? >> i think there is recognition that what happened on january 6th was clearly horrible and that there needs to be accountability at some point in time but a snap impeachment is just not the path to go. so damaging based on the constitutional parameters of due process, making sure the constitutional free speech rights are discussed. so i think there is an openness and as i have supported censure, sending a message this type of behavior, this type of commentary by the president was
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not appropriate. what we want to do is move forward, that is what i've been advocating for to my colleagues. i think that is more appropriate given the circumstances. neil: all right. i think, belinda, my producer, i'm talking to, that is nancy pelosi going in there, right? i can't make out any sound. we'll be monitoring that. congressman, nancy pelosi says this is making more than just a statement. it is reminding america of what the president unleashed a week ago. do you think that he knew the power of his words and they might provoke something like this? >> you know obviously the president was very passionate and his position on the election and you know, i will tell you, i was one of the first members of congress on the republican side to endorse the president. i worked for the president. in the sense of campaigning for him. co-chaired his re-election. i was extremely disappointed he did not win re-election. when he went to the mall, obviously that frustration was on display. i disagreed with the way this
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has been handled since the election day. i recognized president-elect biden. i recognized our transition of power traditions and gave the opportunity to prove the allegations of fraud at the state level. they just weren't there. at this point in time i would hope the president himself would be looking at his legacy going forward and use this time to commit to peaceful transition of power and that we get through this process with no more violence. that is another reason why i'm opposed to impeachment. this is inciting the division of america. this is adding to the potential risk of violence as we speak. neil: you know a lot of republicans have been going through this weird process, congressman, whereth wrestling with what the president said maybe deliberately or unintentionally triggered last week with his future in the party as well, that they don't want anything to
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do with him. do you think that is real issue for republicans, they don't want anything to do with him? he has no future in the party. he has no future with them? >> you know obviously that is a political calculation and impact that is going to have to be taken into consideration but that rests on the people of the republican party. that rests on the people as to where the future of the republican party will go. i'm a very proud republican. i'm very proud to be part of a republican party that is going to come out of this in my humble opinion learning the lessons of this presidency. learning the lessons where we are. learning the good and bad of the last four years but at the end of day the republican party must emerge, we must unite, we must have this conversation but we will survive, we will lead this country with our ideas to win the hearts and minds of the american people so they can trust us to make sure we lead them forward with presidential elections and local elections. neil: would you ever want the
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president to campaign for you in the future when you tried for re-election to your seat? you have got a pretty good lock on that seat but would you ever want the president to campaign on your behalf? >> it all depends what the president does but i will tell you i'm very concerned. the president has taken action here, he will have to deal with, deal with the legacy issues, that the american people will judge him for and so you know, i'm looking to run my own future, my own representation of the people. so what the president does is up to him and i'm just moving forward and hoping to get this country calmed down. let's take a breath. do what is right. respect our constitution. respect the transition of power in a peaceful way. open the door to president biden now is the time, unite this country. let's come together. the obstacles we face are historic. we cannot face those obstacles divided. look what happened in china yesterday. look what is happening around the world. america needs to be the
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superpower leading this world and keeping us safe. neil: congressman tom reed, thank you very much. we'll see how this process going. just take you back to the house floor right now. all the procedural stuff is out of the way. now the actual debate on this single article of impeachment with a vote to follow. they will go back and forth, republicans and democrats, those supporting the effort. those not supporting the effort. they're clear for a vote on this later today. so this is a fast of a impeachment we've ever seen. in fact i know we've never seen it. somewhere i think andrew johnson is rolling in his grave and saying, wow, that's fast. >> the product of widespread fraud and should not --
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♪. neil: all right take you to the house floor, nancy pelosi speaking on the article of impeachment against the president of the united states. the second time they're going after him. let's listen in. >> even we here he said, hold the power and bear the responsibility. in the bible st. paul wrote, think on these things. we must think on what lincoln told us. we, even here, even us here hold
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the power and bear the responsibility. we, you and i, hold in trust the power that derives most directly from the people of the united states and we bear the responsibility to fill that oath that we all swear before god and before one another. the oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, so help us god. we know that we face enemies of the constitution. we know we experienced the insurrection that violated the sangty of the people's capitol and attempted to overturn the duly recorded will of the american people. we know that the president of the united states incited this insurrection, this armed rebellion against our common country. he must go, he is a clear and present danger to the nation that we all love.
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since the presidential election in november, an election the president lost, he hasrepeatedle outcome, sowed self-serving doubt about democracy and unconstitutionally thought to influence state officials to repeal reality. and then came that day of fire we all experienced. the president must be impeached and i believe the president must be convicted by the senate, a constitutional remedy that will insure that the republic will be safe from this man who so resolutely determined to stair down the things that we hold dear and that hold us together. it gives me no pleasure to say this. it breaks nye heart. it should break your heart. it should break all of our hearts. for your presence in this hallowed chamber a testament to
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the love for our country, to america, to your faith in the work of our founders to create a more perfect union. those insurrectionists were in the patriots. they were not part of a political base to be catered too and managed. they were domestic terrorists and justice must prevail. but they did not appear out of a vacuum. they were sent here, sent here by the president with words such as a cry to fight like hell. words matter. truth matters. accountability matters. in his public -- the president saw the insurrectionists not as foes of freedom as they are but as a means to a terrible goal, the goal of his personally clinging to power. the goal of thwarting the will of the people. the goal of ending in a fiery and bloody clash nearly 2 1/2
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centuries of our democracy. this is not theoretical and this is not motivated by partisanship. i stand before you today as an officer of the constitution, a speaker of house of representatives. i stand before you as a wife, a mother, a grandmother, a daughter. a daughter whose father proudly served in this congress, thomas delsandro from maryland. one of the first italian-americans to serve in the congress. i stand before you today as noblist of things as citizen of the united states of america. with my voice and my vote with a plea to all of you, democrats and republicans, i ask you to search your souls and answer these questions. is the president's war on democracy in keeping with the
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constitution? were his words an insurrection airy mob a high crime and misdemeanor? do we not have the duty to our oath we all constitutionally can to protect our nation and democracy from the appetites and ambush shuns after man who self-evidently demonstrated that he is a vital threat to liberty, to self-government and to the rule of law? our country is divided. we all know that. there are lies abroad in the land spread by a desperate president who feels his power slipping away. we know that too. but i know this as well. that we here in this house have a sacred obligation to stand for truth. to stand up for the constitution, to stand as guardians of the republic. in a speech he was prepared to give in dallas on friday,
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november 22nd, 1963, president john f. kennedy was to say, we in this country, in this general race are by destiny rather than choice "the watchmen" on the walls of world freedom. we ask their forewe may be worthy of our power and our responsibility. that we may be worthy. president kennedy was assassinated before he could deliver those words before the nation but they resonate more even now in our time in this place. let us be worthy of our power and responsibility that when lincoln thought was a world's last best hope, the united states of america, may long survive. my fellow members, my fellow americans, we cannot escape history. let us embrace our duty, fulfill
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our oath and honor the trust of our nation. may we pray that god will continue to bless america. thank you, madam speaker. i yield back. >> from new york. reserve. >> reserve. >> gentleman from ohio is recognized. >> i as much time as i consume? >> you are recognized. >> 19 minutes, f ago -- neil: swim jordan, that was a moment really to get the ball rosecond here, the speaker who s not spoken to president trump since october 2019, saying that he has got to go. he might have a week to go but he has got to go now. he violated the trust of his office and the american people and endangered them in the process. the gist of this impeachment measure. i do want to go back to the congressman. >> no way this helps the nation deal with the tragic and
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terrible events of last week that we all condemned. republicans have been consistent. we have condemned all the violence all the time. we condemned it last summer, we condemned it last week. we should be focused on bringing the nation together. instead democrats are going to impeach the president for a second time, one week, one week before he leaves office. request? why? politics and the fact that they want to cancel the president. the president who cut taxes the president who reduced regulations, the president prior to covid had the greatest economy, lowest unemployment in 50 years. goat us out iran deal, put the embassy in jerusalem, brought hostages home from north korea, put three great justice on supreme court. new nafta agreement, abraham accords, covid vaccine and who built the wall. it is about politics this about getting the president of the united states. they spied on his campaign
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before he was elected. 19 minutes into his presidency they started impeachment push. three-year mueller investigation. 19 lawyers 40 agents, 500 witnesses, 2500 subpoenas, $40 million to find nothing. impeachment round one, based on anonymous whistle-blower with no first-hand knowledge who was biased against the president and who worked for joe biden. now it is impeachment round two. always been about getting the president no matter what. it is an obsession, an obsession now broadened. not just about impeachment anymore. it is about canceling as i said, canceling the president and anyone that disagrees with them. ayatollah can tweet, the president can't. democrats can object january 6th, 2017 but republicans are not allowed to object on january 6th, 2021. democrats say antifa is a myth. republicans condemn all violence all the time. the double standard has to stop.
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frankly the attack on the first amendment has to stop. stop and think about it. do you have a functioning first amendment when the cancel culture only allows one side to talk? when you can't even have a debate in this country, this great country the greatest country ever? it needs to stop because if it continues, if it continues it won't just be republicans who get canceled. it won't just be the president of the united states. the can sell culture will come for us all. america is a great country. the greatest country ever. seems to me, we need to think about how great the people of this nation really are. think about what we've accomplished in the past and begin to come together as leaders who represent so many great folks across our districts. think about this. think about this, in 1903, kitty hawk, north carolina two guys fly this thing they called a
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plane 100 feet. barely got off the ground. barely got off the frowned. amazing thing. 44 years later chuck quaker breaks the sound barrier. in 44 years we go from two guys flying a contraption they called a plane a few hundred feet to chuck yeager breaking the sound barrier. and 22 years after that, 22 years after that, another american steps on the moon. think about it. in one lifetime, in 66 years, two guys flying 100 feet to putting a man on the moon. that is what this country is capable of. that is what we can do. we as the congress who represent the people who did that should start leading. should start understanding what really is going on here. so i hope, i hope, i hope we defeat this, i hope we can be able to come together and recognize the greatness of the american people and focus on the things they want us to focus on.
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i yield back my time. >> gentleman reserves. >> i reserve. >> gentleman from new york is recognized. neil: this is a back and forth you're going to hear whether this is necessary. democrats, jerry nadler part of impeachment counseling team. eric swalwell you saw sitting behind the speaker is part of that impeachment management team as well. that raised some eyebrows to put it mildly in the capitol. having said all of that, this is the back and forth will continue i think hours before outright impeachment vote will now get some republican votes, at least five, maybe six, maybe more. mike emanuel in washington with more. michael what are we looking at right now and how does this play out the rest of the day? reporter: neil, you're absolutely right, we expect five republicans come out on the record they will vote for impeachment. the biggest name liz cheney who is the number three in the house republican leadership. that may open the door for others who are on the fence to
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say they are going to vote. she called it a vote of conscience for republican colleagues. leadership said they would not whip in terms of encouraging members to vote against it. vote of conscience. vote the way you want. at least five have come out on the record. so they should have plenty of votes to pass it in the house but you're witnessing political drama, political theater, obviously quite sear you're talking about impeachment of an american president. house speaker nancy pelosi wearing black today, talking about the president being a clear and present danger and that he must go, calling the attack one week ago a day of fire on capitol hill. and then you have jim jordan one of the president's strongest defenders saying this is an unfair process. the president has not been treated farrell hi all along. calling for unity, calling for the country to come together, calling for leaders in congress to work together. the bat battle lines are drawn maybe couple more. we'll see how members vote yes
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or no, for impeaching the president on last week's riot. neil. neil: mike, i think you will have a late night. that is nothing new to you. you're young. you can deal with it. reporter: thank you, my friend. neil: capitol, could drag on a while. votes necessary in the house to impeach president of the united states. it didn't go anywhere in the united states senate. mitt romney voted for the article impeachment. he was only republican defection. you would need 17 republicans to join all the democrats to seal this in the united states senate while mitch mcconnell we're told would entertain the idea, likes what some democrats are putting together in the house. he has not tipped his hand whether he will call them back earlier planned january 19th, soonest which they can address this the day before joe biden's inauguration, realistically the day of the inauguration might be the more apt time to do it that would be an impossibility.
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at least as things stand now, we didn't picture a week ago we would be here right now, did we? john layfield back with us right now. great read of markets and everything else, as we said, before my friend, ignoring all of this, moving beyond this i'm just curious, we could be surprised so often, john, what if the senate does take this up? what if out of the blue 17 republicans joined the democrats and impeach him? then what? >> i don't think it changes anything of significance for the country and for the market. i'm not sure about the impeachment. i think the president, my personal opinion did, impeachable offenses but i'm not sure impeaching him now without some type of investigation as to what actually happened is what's best. that all being said, i don't think the market cares. i think market looks what is coming with the vaccine rollout, even though incredibly slow right now, not meeting standards. we'll see pent-up demand quite
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unbelievable around the globe with people starting to come out of this pandemic we haven't seen since world war ii or world war i. neil: you know what i worry about though. while hopes are that happens, we're certainly having some severe bums along the way. i mean we've had two of the last four-days where we've had better than 4,000 deaths in this country in a 24 hour period. we had record number of hospitalizations. we had a number of states right now back to levels of case increases where we were in march and april of last year. what if this drags on for a majority of this year? in other words, that the vaccines are out there. looks promising. slowly rollout notwithstanding. they correct that. but it might, it might be a longer term issue or certainly a much longer term issue than we thought? >> i think it is going to be longer term issue, neil because of the vaccine rollout. this has been a complete failure
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from the national level down. the national level refused to have a leadership position. so they abdicated all of that to the states. so separate states like west virginia, who didn't pay attention to the national plan at all, which is not much of a plan. governor justice, we had failure in almost every state except say for west virginia and connecticut. the reason you can't go to states, say we want you to give this to hospitals already overwhelmed with covid. we also want you to vaccinate 330 million people with 660 million shots because you need two shots per person. you should have had a national plan, call in people marks national guard like israel did. armed forces. i've been to iraq and afghanistan many times. i see how armed forces build cities overnight. they're experts of doing this we should have vaccination centers in parking lots, parking garages. parking lots.
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grocery stores and have a national meeting with cvs walmart and what do you need? we need personnel, funding. go to the state. here is the plan. here is how the vaccine rolls out. we could be vaccinating millions of people a day right now instead of hundreds of thousands. it is all because of abdication of leadership from the federal government. the good news this can be corrected. if it is, we will see a vaccine rollout start to work. neil: i hope you were right, john. thank you very, very much. john layfield, very good catching up with you. back to the capitol right now. this is the backdrop you're watching as the house takes up for the second time in little more than a year a impeachment measure, a single one against the president of the united states. like the last one it is likely to pass the house this time. anything guesses what happens in the united states. that is an uphill climb. we should say given the developments a week ago, now developments a week away, the inauguration of joe biden as next president of the united
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states, heightened security, metal detectors everywhere. everyone just trying to make sure what happened a week ago doesn't repeat itself, trying to go about this constitutional issue of going about, calling for the removal of the president of the united states before even formally is to leave the white house to get him out of there right now. chad pergram following all of these developments, what we could be looking at. what comes next. chad. reporter: good afternoon, neil. they just started the debate in the house of representatives on the article of impeachment. 20 minutes ago the first speaker out of the block was house speaker nancy pelosi. she said the president pose as clear and present danger and she also called these who raided the capitol a week ago today domestic terrorists. tom mcclintock, republican congressman from california is speaking on the house floor right now. he is defending the president. he is basically asserting here that the president you know, his language was not that bad. he did not incite them.
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mcclintock opposed this idea, he is pretty conservatived but opposed this idea by fellow republicans to contest many of the electoral results. the house of representatives will impeach president trump later this afternoon. he will become only the second person ever impeached twice. have to go back 1790s, a senator from tennessee william blount who was impeached twice. the question when do they send the article of impeachment over to the united states senate? you might remember that in december of 2019, january of 2020, house speaker nancy pelosi held the ball, held articles of impeachment in that case, there were two, obstruction of congress, abuse of power, held the ball for 28 days before they sent them over. once she sent them over. you have to have a vote to do that. then the senate can begin this process. we think there could be a secondary vote later today or maybe she does hold the vote and wait until democrats are in control of the senate that
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wouldn't happen ostensibly you have vice president harris in office. so maybe they hold the ball until they think they have control of the senate. otherwise once you start, the senate impeachment rules govern the process. you have to meet every day at 1:00 in the afternoon, sundays excluded. the chief justice presides. the question, the secondary question is, can you start an impeachment trial or continue to conduct or initiate an impeachment trial after someone has left office? there is precedent for that. certainly with senator blount back in the 1990s. he was no longer in the senate -- 1790s. the same thing happened with william bellnap was secretary of war, he had in fact resigned. they sent impeachment articles in 1876 and conducted a trial. he was acquitted. could you have this start after president trump leaves office at 11:59:59 a.m. on the 20th of
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january, neil. neil: do we know how the president will leave, where he will be, any of that yet? >> nothing concrete. obviously it is usually ceremonial to have the president come here and, you know, ride with the incoming president. there was the famous moment between eisenhower and truman they sat in silence on the limousine ride up in the capitol. one moment won't happen though. you always have -- innaguration takes place on the west front, looking out toward the mall, washington monument and lincoln memorial. the other side where they used to do the inauguration, the east front over toward the library of congress and the supreme court. there you would usually have the new president come down the steps with the outgoing president and wave have some pleasantries, see the helicopter go off in the distance. that will not happen this time. neil: maybe a greyhound bus. who knows. chad, thank you very, very much, my friend. chad pergram following all of that. he is stickler for historical
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details the likes i have never seen out of anyone, amazing. also amazing. my next guest chris hogan, everyday millionaires. chris, great having you. i wanted to go into this a little differently if you don't mind. i'm looking how the markets are jumping ahead. they maintained this pace will be at another record. for all the urn certainty, this is the message you try to convey to young people, invest, save, look to the future, not get caught up in whatever crisis is happening at the moment. does this approve that point i don't know what does. your thoughts. >> neal, you're axe chutely right, we continue to look at the market what it is doing and where it is going, it continues to show america is strong and resilient. our businesses are strong. people are pushing forward. they're trying to take care of life day-to-day and this is a roller-coaster ride. i talk about it in my book, everyday millionaires. when you invest in the market it will go up and down.
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it will do all the things. you need to have your seatbelt. you need to have your plan in place, you need to understand this is part of the process. the stock market is a living breathing thing that will respond to the things that happened in our country. neil: you know, chris a lot of people say well now a democrat coming into the white house and full run of the table, controlling the house and the senate, will raise taxes. he is doing to raise investment related taxes not a good time to invest in the market especially after this incredible runup. what do you tell folks like that? >> we have to look at this, look at history. you and i have been around a while. you're a lot older than me. neil: thank you very much. >> throughout presidential runs -- [laughter]. anytime there is a change in the white house there is speculation of doom and gloom. then there is speculation of glory and good. we know in the middle reality falls. things have never as good as they seem or bad as they emseem, reality falls.
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it comes back to controlling the controllables. we get on a budget. the fact we have emergency fund. the fact we put money away for the future. if we don't invest now. we'll not get to spend later. ultimately what we have to do be concerned what is going on in our house and not anyone else's. neil: you think about it, basic concepts like only spend what you have. that is concept we'll be watching. even more so now. i'm wondering what message our leaders might be sending? >> well, that's the thing. i think we're always -- listen we're a bipartisan country. you will hear messages from both sides. i think it is really important for people to get out and vote for the people they believe in, that they are behind but ultimately what we have to do is america votes inside of our own home. meaning that we are going to believe in this country, the strength of this country, the economy and believe that it is going to continue to grow forward. will there be bumps in the road? absolutely without a doubt. that is why we have shock
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absorbers called emergency funds and cushions for ourselves. neil: right. >> we get to decide our future. no one else, i want people to believe in the country, believe in what is possible. neil: chris hogan, final word. final visit with your cheap shot at my age. because i covered andrew johnson's impeachment doesn't mean i'm that old. >> listen -- neil: great read as always. >> thank you, my friend. pleasure to be with you. stay young. neil: it was a until a few minutes ago for me as well. i'm kidding. kidding. dow up 73 points. we're monitoring developments in the house. stay with us. you're watching fox business.
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neil: welcome back everybody i'm neil cavuto you are watching fox business. continuing coverage of another impeachment event going on, this is become routine or are we just focus on other things. think about the historic nature of what's happening the house of representatives where democrats easily have the votes as well as key republican votes about a half-dozen of them to impeach donald trump for second time, the presidential level we have never seen that before the question is what happens after the house of the senate can pick up the measure at the battle of
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fighting the calendar trying to move date around. i want to go to the wall street journal political reporter. elijah we can talk about the market and how they are shrugging their shoulders but it is more intriguing that more republicans are part of this empathetic, sympathetic if we were to believe the new york times story, mitch mcconnell himself pleased by what the dems are doing in the house whether that means he and republicans will make a similar efforts to move up the calendar a vote on any of this stuff before next week's inauguration. anyone's guess. how do you think of all of this as you cover all of this? >> it's affected these republicans personally, they were there when the riot came in and threatened their safety, we keep hearing more and more stories, how extreme this was in for some republicans they feel this very personally and it's also much easier and likely this
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will go to the senate after president trump leaves office, even if he is impeached which we expect he will be he will not be removed from office. you mentioned mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell and the president relationship has really deteriorated after the election and many republicans who feel very frustrated with him, with his denial about losing the selection and were seeing the fruits of all of that coming together, someone also pointed out to me during the first impeachment it was a bit more complicated it was about the president asking ukraine to investigate joe biden it took more to explain to people whereas what happened last week people saw play out on their tv in real time. neil: you've covered this so well, one of the first things i've sent republicans are not afraid of donald trump anymore, they're not as intimidated,
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they're more apt to challenge him, more apt to in at least a half a dozen or close to vote to impeach him, many more feel that way even one who backed him earlier in my latest hour was saying i do not like the message, i do not think it is been helpful. i don't think is emblematic of the party and morton moore is saying that as if they are saying the big gorilla in the room is no longer threatening. they're almost relieved by that. what do you make of that? >> he is out of office next week it's a lot easier to say that when they know he will not be in office. he has his social media accounts, though a lot of ways he is attacked republicans who criticized him are gone at this moment. and i do think like i mentioned earlier. neil: they also seem to be saying we don't see you as a continuing threat or force in this party, are they right or are they going to ruin the day,
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he has a long memory that they're doing all of this and saying all of this. >> we will just have to see republican voters how they feel. it is important to know, after this incident last week more than 100 republicans in the house still did choose to vote to object to the electoral college saying that joe biden won the selection and a handful in the senate did the same thing. not all republicans have distanced themselves from the president and were still seen with voters in conservative areas they are still defending the president, siding with him and i'm not quite sure donald trump is out of republican politics forever were seen more of a break than we've ever seen before certainly. neil: obviously if they have succeeded it would only matter if the senate impeached him as well, but only then would the
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president be forbidden to run for public office. short of that he could technically i guess. am i right about that? >> he could technically run for office and i think there will be a base, i'm not sure how big it is but for president trump but we will have to see, business contracts could be cancel, social media suspended, he is really facing criticism from all levels republican donors are pulling out money from some of these members of congress who did vote to object electoral college votes. this is reverberating outside of media politics as well. we will see how far it goes and if it last. neil: you touched on it but just curious, do you think the senate will even take this up. i think as soon as they can do is the 19th, another calendar has the 20th, the day of the inauguration a week from today. they could move on that calendar to speeded up but do you think they will? >> democrats now have the
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majority and i think we expect the senate to take this up, the question of what senate democrats are trying to figure out how to take it up and not let it imperil their whole agenda including getting bindings cabinet in place. that is a real question. chuck schumer is trying to figure out if there is a way to have the impeachment proceedings and also maybe in the afternoon moved to confirm some of biden's cabinet officials and that would take buy-in from mitch mcconnell and republicans and were not quite sure what that looks like yet but i think we can expect this to come up, exactly when and how long it'll take are the big questions and if it will pass. neil: and if it will pass, yes that's another big question. elijah collins, wall street journal. good to catch up with you. we told you and she touched on as well, the bipartisan concern about the president including ron paul says while he had his
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differences with the president he thinks with the democrats are doing is going twice to far. take a look at this. >> the president says he is not to blame for anything that happened last week, he did not lie any candle, this is something that developed. do you think he bears some responsibility for this? >> i think sometimes policy has lead to this but it's almost a distraction, let's talk how we could do something really unique, we have never impeach a president twice, now that is history. neil: that's appointed by next guest michael goodman to break up the pizza new york post, michael very good to have you. i was intrigued, i always -- you always try to be a fair shooter, you call the president out on behavior and you did his words a
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week ago. but the overkill or the reaction to that, whether that is overkill. you said the first time around to use impeachment as a campaign strategy to defeat donald trump in 2020, they are now using impeachment to try to keep him out of the 2024 race which would happen under senate conviction because he would be barred from ever again holding public office. the senate part is still open question even happens at all. you find this all to be politically driven? >> thank you neil, i do i think the time left in the president and his tenure is so short, the biden of administration has talked about wanting to unite the country, they have a big agenda as you mentioned and a lot of confirmation process is to get through. i think the only way to explain this is a partisan/political attempt to silence donald trump,
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to take him out of the political field in the fact that some republicans are privately voicing that same reason or perhaps supporting this, they want him gone, they want basically to get the party back. we know donald trump took over the republican party, change the republican party. i think this could be one of the things where the republicans should be careful what they wish for, given the president xi support among republicans, 90%, 92% almost every survey in the last several years. i'm not sure what the republican party is without trump. neil: i can imagine he was still get those types of numbers. i know obviously his approval level with the low it's ever been. that might be obviously a disconnect with republicans
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aboard but that surely has fallen and i'm just wondering whether this is republicans way of saying, there is more baggage to him then there are gains to being supportive of him. how does this play out in the near future? >> let's take the 74-point to million votes that you've got and ask how many of them would vote for him again today or perhaps consider in four years. is it 50 million, 40 million, 35 million, that is a large group of people, larger than anybody else in the republican scene that i can imagine. i think to write him off to say the party can be fine without him i think is something of a suicide mission for those republicans. neil: a more profound element to your piece. you have touched on it before, be careful what you wish for things which you say rules in
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effect on college campuses and corporations of government increasingly embracing restrictions on what people can say about politics and politicians. penalties including suspension, expulsion and firing are common for those who dare say unsalable things. that is real whether you like what the president said last week and maybe unintentionally triggered last week, that is very real what's going on now. it's a scorched-earth sort of a policy, that your bigger worry, isn't it? >> i think we are moving toward criminalizing speech. we've seen hate speech get decried by the social network sensors and that sort of thing but all you have to do is label something hate speech and now you have the legitimacy to knock it off line, to silence it, banish it and you hear these
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explanations from twitter, facebook who are protecting the integrity, the safety, all these infant to lazing words as no speech is somehow dangerous. this is what we see in college campuses, the heckler gets the veto because the heckler is offended. if forget to go down that road i think it's not long before were going to see speech criminalized where if you say the wrong thing you will be prosecuted. it sounds like a bridge too far but where we are seemed impossible six months ago, you see one kind of violence is allowed and on the other hand certain speech is equated with violence and hate. i think were pulling apart of the country and some of the fundamental things that created this great country, the first amendment. not so long ago we heard people
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defending menotti's right to speech, the right to march and in illinois was a greatest moment growing up that's how tolerant we were and how respectful we were a people's rights. that is quickly being eroded, not slowly, quickly. what seems fanciful now will in fact be in front of congress in six months. neil: you could be right, it's upholding as we speak. michael goodwin, thank you very much, of the new york post. much more, to his point as we look at wall street in its reaction. it clearly seems to think that this too shall pass as were taken up the single impeachment measure in the house of representatives. it is a reminder, are we going after the president or are we going after anyone who has any connection to or voted for the president. some of these moves that go beyond what happened on capitol
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amount of their policies as well, it has since been up in legal limbo but something that you can expect the biden administration to try to reverse as broader action on immigration as well. the biden administration will certainly have voices from within the administration and the tech community, the incoming staff secretary the director of legislative affairs and the response core nader for president-elect biden all have facebook on their resumes. neil: blake, thank you very much, get the reed on all of this and news on gm with scott martin and rebecca walser. the markets and the reaction to all of this, they are okay with it or think you beyond it. i've asked every market expert to get his or her read on that. what do you think of that? >> we've got a week to go,
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literally. it's not even going to be back in time to handle this. i don't know if it's a historical thing, there is no actual technical reason that things need to be done because were talking about the 20th and is the 13th. the market is looking past and i think the market should and it's a dangerous vote for all the reasons your previous guests mentioned it's not how america -- we don't police people we take them on for what they say and do, it's a very dangerous to hold this kind of vote. neil: scott martin, on the technology company, the social media to the point of a way to rid themselves of anything or anyone related to donald trump, you have to wonder whether they're trying to curry favor with democrats who will have the run of the table, many of whom are saying a little more than a week ago you guys should be broken up. what happens now what are the
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prospects now? >> they tried to play their cards the best they can and don't forget a lot of these companies are in kamala harris backyard. that's an interesting tussle i'm looking forward to in the next few years. you're totally right, this is optics at this point, given the fact that facebook, twitter's of the world are going so far. the first step trying to earn favor from the administration and the new one coming in with respect to what they do going forward with these companies because also this democratic party is dependent on silicon valley for contributions and obviously donations so depending on how this plays out and how nice people play together in the backyard to stay with that imagery will determine how much regulation come down on these guys. neil: i've heard a number of analysts say and rebecca all dump this on you, the technology still has a play even though it looked like it was a runner that would have to slow down this
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year, a lot of people were saying that march of last year when we were tumbling. but tech came running back and it could continue toward back, even gm increasingly looking like a tech stock in its push to electric vehicles and the like out of all time highs for that issue. obviously that thinking on whether general motors being more tesla like or all these companies that are following the tech wave that clearly has curry favor with the market. do you think that continues customer. >> yes, i do, i think gm doing this on the cusp of elon musk becoming the richest man in the world, just recently it's prophetic. we are entering to attend - 20 year period where technology is the rise of the machine, the a.i., the quantum computing, the things that i've seen recently unveiled that are coming to
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everyday use, it is scary, we need digital bill of rights we need things that are going to be put into place to establish grammar but this really is the technological age, it is here and gm is taking their business into the next opportunity. neil: would you have tech as a large part of your portfolio going into this year? >> i would, i think rebecca is exactly right, this is the future and this is what the market is excited about. the great thing get the bad thing the technology to her point and the analyst have said this could be a decade off frankly before it comes to earth. i say that if you look at the vehicle prototype that gm folks released that does not look like it belongs on earth it looks lunar at best. the fact that those things are coming down the line are things that stock investors will pay
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for buying equities in these companies right now even if their years away. neil: years away when you're young like you guys, that is fine, for me sometime next week. we will see what happens, thank you both very much, good health and good year for both of you. were following the dow and following what's going on and waiting for kevin mccarthy republican leader to take hold of the house in the next election presumed to be the next speaker of the house, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves but he's been walking a tight rope on this whole issue. vertically the notion of how he reconciles backing the opposition to the electoral vote and a lot of people trying to tie the ensuing violence to that. it might be a stretch and survived by and large but his comments on this and whether we should impeach the president of the united states, by the way he is opposed to that and it will be revealing and he asked to have his words quite carefully to keep the troops united. more after this.
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p1 very, very shortly i will speak to chuck hagel our former u.s. defense secretary under barack obama as we have heightened security concerns, metal detectors and the rest in the united states house as they take up an impeachment motion against the president before i get to the former secretary i want to hear from the republican house leader kevin mccarthy on this effort, he is not a fan. >> some say the riots were caused by antifa. there is absolutely no evidence of that. and conservative should be the first to say so. conservatives also know that the only thing that stops mob violence is to meet it with force rooted in justice and backed by moral courage.
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last week we saw mob violence met by courage, sacrifice and heroism from the brave men and women who protect this institution every day. but for the bravery of the capital police of destruction and loss could have been much greater. we owe them a tremendous debt of gratitude. the loss of officer brian said nick and howard liebengood is tragic and we mourn their loss. we remember their lives and continue to pray for their families and loved ones. the officer of the capital police deserve our internal thanks, we will never forget the dangers that they faced, the determination that they showed for the sacrifices that they made and make no mistake, those who are responsible for wednesday's chaos will be brought to justice.
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which brings me too today's debate. i believe impeaching the president in such a short timeframe would be a mistake. no investigations have been completed, no hearings have been held, what is more the senate has confirmed that no trial will begin until after president-elect biden is sworn in. but here is what a vote to impeach would do. a vote to impeach with further divide this nation. a vote to impeach will further fan the flames of partisan division. most americans want neither an action nor retribution. they want durable, bipartisan justice, that path is still available but it's not the path that we are on today. that does not mean the president is free from fault, the
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president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on progress by mob rioters. he should have a needed engine immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action for president trump. except his share of responsibility, quail the ruling unrest and ensure president-elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. in the president's immediate action also deserves congressional action which is why i think a fact-finding commission unicenter resolution would be prudent and unfortunately that is not where we are today. truly this past week was one of the most difficult for congress in our nation. of all the days here, last wednesday was the worst day i have ever seen in congress. our country is deeply hurt. so where do we go from here.
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after all the violence and chaos of the last week, it's important to remember you are still here to deliver a better future for all of americans. it does not matter if you are liberal, moderate or conservative. all of us must resist the temptation of further polarization, instead we must unite once again as americans, i understand for some this calls for unity may ring hollow. but times like these are when we must remember who we are as americans and what we as a nation stand for, as history shows unity is not an option it's a necessity, it is necessary today as it was at the start of our country. i want us all to think back to how john adams in the federalist party handed power over to thomas jefferson and his party
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after the election of 1800. that election and indeed the error was one of the most devices ever. partisans use every dirty trick in the book, they demonized each other, dismissed reasonable dissent and describe their opponents as the dishes. sound familiar? the election of 1800 could've destroyed our young nation but instead of breaking us and helped us bring us together. thereby preserving the world last best hope of freedom. after a hard-fought battle of the electoral college in congress adams conceded. in a peaceful transfer of power, the first in the american history took place. jefferson, for his part put aside the division of the era and preached forgiveness.
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yes, unity. his inaugural address he famously said every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. jefferson and adams did not and every difference of opinion that existed in america, nor did they try. in a free country as big and diverse as ours that would be impossible. what they did was more important, they recognize the deeper unity, unity rooted in the famous proposition both men helped to write. at a critical moment in history are founders chose peace, liberty, partnership, retention, division and partisanship for the sake of our country we must make the exact same choice. we have already begun, last week despite the lingering shock and amid the window still broken we did what all healthy democracies do, we debated and we voted, in
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this country we dissolved our disputes at the ballot box and not the debates and votes at the floor of this exact chamber. we did our duty then and we must do more. the eyes of the nation in the world are upon us. we must seize this opportunity and heal and grow stronger. as leaders our place in history depends on whether we call on our better angels and refocus our efforts to work directly for the american people. united we can deliver peace, strength and prosperity are countries desperately need. divided we will feel. what we saw last week was not the american way, neither is a continued rhetoric that joe biden is not the legitimate
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president. let's be clear, joe biden will be sworn in as president of the united states in one week because he won the election. in the presidency in this congress will face immediate challenges that must be addressed. i stand ready to assist in the effort. with good faith, goodwill and open hand. the united states remains exceptional, we remain extraordinary in the coming weeks and months we must work together all of us to recharge the light of our shining city on the hill, history has shown us away, history is given as a path, just as adams and jefferson have shown, now is the moment that we should do the exact same. in these trying times that god continue to bless america.
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in less chart a course that history will repeat but not what is happening today. i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back. neil: kevin mccarthy trying to thread a needle, he was part of that effort led by republican congressman to challenge the electoral vote, it is very clear that joe biden is the newly elected president of the united states and he will be inaugurated next week he said impeaching the president in such a short time would be a mistake, he got some criticism for a number of his colleagues saying he galvanized this process be as it may were getting a statement that was sent to fox news from president trump did not seen any threats of violence that might be planned or might be conjured up by a number of his followers around the country, there is an fbi warning out in 50 states there could be protest and dangerous protest in all 50 states capitals as well as the
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beefed-up national guard presents international capital that involves 15000 national guard troops. back to the president and his warnings on calling for america to ease tensions and calm efforts. in light of reportable demonstrations i urge that there must be no violence, no lawbreaking and no vandalism of any kind, the president goes on to say that is not what i stand for and it's not what america stands for, i call on all americans tes tensions and caused tempers. with chuck hagel the former defense secretary and vietnam war veteran, so much more. thank you for your patience, what do you make of the president statement? >> i am happy they put the statement out, unfortunately a little late. his incitement, the whole reason the houses meeting on the issue,
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what leader mccarthy just talked about because of his actions prior to this day i'm glad he said what he did but it's a little late. neil: do you worry we might still have problems for the fbi to put out the warning on the beefed-up presence on our nations capital that michael beyond the 15000 and i'm told to the end of the month, beyond the inauguration, what do you think? >> i do worry about the possibility and maybe probability, the damage has been done to this country and it will not go away in a week or after january 20 for a month after january 20. when you undermine the various competence levels of institutions and leaderships of this country like we seen undermine the last few years and culminating in what happened here in washington one week ago today, that is a problem in your
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society in your country, mccarthy is right we need to work together to unify the country but the same time actions have consequences and everybody must be held accountable, all elected officials all of us in our personal lives are accountable that's the way democracies work. and again, that's what brings the congress together today and to your question will be cfx of this and ongoing possible violence, yes possibly and that's why we need to be prepared. that's not why we need to talk about this. the leadership matters. leadership matters initially does in politics and in government. neil: do you think it was a mistake in reference we talk about kevin mccarthy and he was threading the needle he was part of the 100 congressman and a number of u.s. senators who requested the electoral vote results, a lot of republicans
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come back to me secretary and say no one said about the democrats who were arguing insane four years ago and not mining president trump is a duly elected president, you get what you get and you get what you give. what do you think of that? >> i think it is a far reach, we did not see last week, we did not see what happened four years ago anywhere near the level of writing and incitement and damage and destruction and occupation that we see this week, last week and i think that is what you have to factor in. there are people on both sides, both democrats and republicans who hold an extreme view, of you that is wrong and not any interest to this country. neil: do you worry about an overreaction, i don't want to minimize last week by any means.
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but the fact that social media is shutting down, anyone and everyone connected to donald trump including donald trump, though sympathetic and supportive of donald trump and even a social media site parler, by and large is an open season open to all liberals and conservatives alike, this is being used of an excuse to go after people way what is beyond called for. >> the fact is in a democracy in a free country like we are, you have responsibilities for your actions and your words. certainly elected officials do and what we seen as a consequence and this continued incitement and quite honestly lies that have been spread about the election, my goodness we've had over 60 lawsuits filed by the trump people in every level
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including two supreme court they were thrown out, there is no facts here, when you start and continue to spread lies and false information, that incites riots and bloodshed and something has to be done about that, comes back to responsible leadership and responsible words and actions, i don't like a lot of this that has been going on but i think were living at a time that is damn dangerous. we have not seen this for a long, long time in this country if ever. we have never seen the capital of the united states occupied and destroyed and people killed. since the war of 1812, that was a foreign enemy, not american citizens doing this, anybody responsible for that in any way kevin mccarthy said the president has got to take some responsibility and i think others like rudy giuliani and to continue to perpetuate this nonsense in the smith and really undermines his country and is
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dangerous for this country, something has to be done. neil: i apologize for getting word from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell telling cbs news that he supports impeaching the president but will not publicly discuss those views until the house in the article of impeachment. i would imagine if mitch mcconnell is open to the idea in the senate would topple its calendar to take this up, he could be impeached to the united states senate, do you think you should? >> the house will impeach him most likely with republican votes today included the number three leader of the republican party in the house liz cheney but the job of the senate is to hold the trial and declare innocence or convict. and mitch mcconnell's words are very powerful, his position of
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course his leader of republican caucus in the senate is very powerful you need 67 senators out of 102 convict, difficult to get 67 senators but it will give new credibility to the reality of the possibility of this republican president being convicted of the impeachment charge if that's what happens and i think it will when that trial begins. neil: time is wasted to your point, the u.s. defense secretary former nebraska senator decorated vietnam war, thank you for taking the time we appreciated. be well, be safe. neil: a little bit more were learning on cbs news story passing on the wires that mitch mcconnell has said he is open for impeachment and that could open the floodgates of getting the senate to move on this, you would need 17 republicans to go along presumably with the democrats before the idea but
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again it's a time crunch if you're not going to me until some site the 20th, the day of the inauguration they would have to move lickety-split, they could do that but if mitch mcconnell is open to the idea we know lisa murkowski and mitt romney and ben sasse, you need another 13 and you're on your way to formally impeaching the president of the united states and convicted of the united states senate forbidden to run for public office ever. stay with us, you are watching fox business. ♪
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neil: this is a case of having your cake and eat it too, i think of the cake is there you might as leader. we told you about the conundrum mitch mcconnell has been open to impeachment against the president of the united states but he himself is not open to changing the senate calendar to make it happen, scheduled to reconvene january 19 and mcconnell has said that he cannot alter that and is not planning on altering that and it leaves no time for a vote before
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mr. biden's inauguration on january 20, all this is happening things are moving quite rapidly where the senate republican leader said he was open according to a cbs news interview to impeaching the president thinks there's grounds echoing the sentiment of people like ben sasse and lisa murkowski and mitt romney who would likely vote to convict the president on the single count of leading to an insurgency and violence that the house is debating as we speak and likely to approve later on today, charlie gasparino on all of this, unless he does change the schedule it is unlikely to happen but it is interesting but he got any doubt that he was off the mcconnell trump road, this puts that to rest. >> i think this is further indication of how tarnished the trump brand is. it is fascinating he was about to embark on a private sector
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career, that probably extended in doing a television network, if he campaigned hard in georgia and help those republicans get elected he would've gotten a lot of credit from the senate from his peers in the senate and if he did not say what he said that because that riot he would be sitting very pretty right now in the whole political establishment and business establishment has turned against donald trump, here is a fascinating thing, amid the facebook and twitter bands, most under both of those companies have lost $50 billion of market cap, there are investors saying what you doing, they think it is a smart business move to ban donald trump and maybe his diverse supporters, they think he is so toxic they would have no problem taking it on the chin
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in terms of some selloff of their stock because they think long term this guy is so radioactive, i think for mitch mcconnell to say that it is just proof that donald trump flushed his standing politically in a business standpoint down the drain. obviously you have 74 million people to vote for him and he still had a following but at the following that is rapidly disappearing in the establishment circles and unfortunately it will extend not just to him but people in his orbit who probably do not deserve it and the have a hard time getting jobs but make no mistake mitch mcconnell saying that is huge news and it means republicans do not want -- a lot of republicans want nothing to do with this guy, there will be some that side with him but what he did to himself, he hurt the country, five people dead, but he really did destroy his brand,
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this is gonna be a harvard paper on how much money he flushed when this is all over, it is nothing compared to the loss of life, i'm not trying to diminish what happened in terms of people dying and what the country has been through, but the donald trump business brand as of now is effectively dead, it's pretty amazing. neil: let's say he still has a lot of fancy does have a 75 million that voted for him but tens of millions that like him it would have to pass in the senate, wheeling 20 seconds. that he could run for office? >> he could run and lose, i don't think is ever running again. maybe, but god, words cannot describe what is happened in the last two months.
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