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♪. lou: please join us here tomorrow. china expert gordon chang, former congressman jason chaffetz among our guests. lease please be with us. see you tomorrow. good night from suds section. elizabeth: welcome to "the evening edit." we're in breaking news mode. it is official. president trump is first president to be impeached twice. 10 republicans joined democrats to impeach. the big question, when will the president face a potential senate trial? when is that coming? kevin corke is in washington. reporter: bipartisan rebuke by the president of lawmakers. second empeachment as you
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reported including dozen republicans including wyoming liz cheney, in perhaps to carve out a leadership position in a post trump gop. republicans here choosing to side with nancy pelosi and a fast track impeachment of the president with only a week remaining in his term in office. >> the president must be impeached and i believe the president must be convicted by the senate. a constitutional remedy that will insure that the republic will safe from this man resolutely determined to tear down the things we hold dear. reporter: still republicans insist the vote will do more to hurt the president's legacy and ultimately even do more than that with respect to hurting the country. >> a vote to impeach would further divide this nation. a vote to impeach will further fan the flames of partisan
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division. >> democrats are going to impeach the president for a second time one week, one week before he leaves office. why? why? reporter: officially the house impeached the president for quote, willful incitement of insurrection be but as you know very unlikely the senate will move on that measure before the president is officially out of office. still the democrats want to insure he never runs again for office. they are urging the senate to act. they're vowing to press on if that needs to take them to the biden press did not sy. let me share a statement from the president. washington is on virtual lockdown. we heard a lot of people talking about the possibility of violence, about the possibility of more protests. here is what the president has to say. in light of reports of more demonstrations i urge that there must be no violence, no law breaking and no vandalism of any kind. that is not what i stand for and it is not what america stands
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for. i call on all americans ease tensions and calm tempers. thank you. much-needed words, elizabeth, as we continue to consider what may be hopefully a quiet inauguration it may not of be equal be back to you for now. elizabeth: thank you, kevin corke from your report from washington. we have representative guy reschenthaler and counsel sol wisenberg. how did you vote. >> thank you, liz, thank you for having me on. call me guy. i want to unequivocally state what happened last wednesday was wrong. it was unacceptable. it was un-american. those that broke the law should be held accountable. i condemned political violence all summer long. i'm condemning it right now. as for the vote today, liz, i have voted vote on impeachment. tell you why i did it. i did it because the nation needs healing right now. we need to come together.
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as kevin mccarthy, said this further divides the country. it does nothing to heal us. we need to be coming together, not only in the republican party but more importantly as an american people right now. this vote today continues to fan the flames of the divisions that we have. elizabeth: okay. sol wisenberg, next to you, let's show the viewer what the president said just a week ago. sol, they voted to impeach, 10 republicans led by liz cheney voted to impeach. the president made statements, if you don't fight like hell, not going to have a country anymore. we're going to walk down to the capitol. you can never take back the country with weakness. you have to take it back with strength. is that enough for the senate to convict him on? >> yes it is enough. it is not enough to convict him of the crime of incitement to
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riot or advocacy of overthrow of the government because it is not imminent enough under supreme court case law. but that would not apply to an impeachment, to an impeachment proceeding or to a trial because as you know you don't have to have an actual crime to be impeached. elizabeth: okay. so back to you, congressman, senator mitch mcconnell saying it won't go to the senate until the day before the inauguration. what is the mood now? will democrats with a thin majority in the senate do he have this the votes to convict? >> we'll have to see when it goes to the senate. there has to be a i will too. the fact is this won't even be heard in the senate until joe biden is inaugurated next week. we're within a week a new president coming in. the democrats couldn't help themselves to divide the country by bringing forward this vote. this is not what we need. just as we were talking about, it is very suspect this even
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meets the legal definition of indictment let alone the fact due process has been completely railroaded. there were no hearings on this. there was no fact-finding mission. no defense from the president like we had the last impeachment. frankly every impeachment in this country before. this is unprecedented in a time, the speed of this. it is also i believe incredibly unprecedented the fact that we're doing this a week before we have a new president. >> can i respond to that? elizabeth: sol, you can, go ahead. senator mcconnell has said he has not made a final decision on how he will vote. take it on. >> here is the way i do it. they're reporting from the scene of the crime and they have seen the videos. they really don't need to have any fact findings, detailed fact findings. the detailed fact-finding will come during the various criminal investigations that are going on for seditious conspiracy. so you had a special event here. you had an unprecedented event which we talked about whereas
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liz cheney said, he summoned the crowd. he assembled the crowd and he lit the fuse and sent them over during a solemn constitutional proceeding that is called for in the constitution. so that is unprecedented. so i think it's a little bit ironic for, for the president to be and his people to be complaining that the congress is being divisive here when it was his unprecedented in american history action that got us here. now having said that there is no question that there is going to be divisiveness as a result of this. elizabeth: okay. we're just getting breaking news. president putting out a youtube statement saying please, no violence. stop the violence. let's watch the action today. let's listen to what happened on the floor. >> he must go. he is a clear and present danger to the nation that we all love.
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>> defend this constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic including donald j. trump. >> some say the riots were caused by antifa. there is absolutely no evidence of that. elizabeth: okay. one congressman said unciting domestic terrorist assault not a reason to impeach, what is? congressman matt gaetz congressman rest rest sent the house chamber into a frenzy with this speech. watch. >> i denounce political violence from all ends of the spectrum but make no mistake, the left in america has incited far more political violence than the right. elizabeth: okay. let's be clear. the capitol riot, congressman was about stopping a vote certification. it was an attack on the government. that's different from the riots that took place last year in numerous cities and towns across the country.
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your reaction to what matt gaetz said? >> i would have to say mob violence is mob violence just as matt gaetz said. it doesn't matter where the ideology might fall on the mob. is still violence. it is still wrong. it is unacceptable. we need to condemn it. i condemned the violence from antifa all summer long. i don't know any mainstream media outlet asking democrats to condemn that violence. we have behavior criminal acts on wednesday, just like with my republican colleagues am condemning it. i don't want to speculate as to everything that what matt gaetz was saying i can say we've been very clear and consistent. we're the party of law and order. we have been consistent calling out violence. i wish my democrat colleagues would have been consistent during the summer when antifa was burning cities and businesses to the ground. elizabeth: okay. again, that, we've been covering that when they started. it is distinct from an attack on the government. that is what the president, that
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is, impeach him. >> antifa was attacking federal buildings. they were literal blinding federal officers. elizabeth: understood this is attack on congress as they're trying to certify the vote. i don't mean to talk to you. this is an at that time trying to certify the vote. that is something -- >> and i condemned it all the attacks liz. so do my republican colleagues. we've been incredibly consistent. >> heard. >> you it was wrong wednesday. it was wrong all summer long. elizabeth: got it. i hear you. duly noted. so, you know, sol, we're hearing incendiary comments from eric swalwell saying trump inspired and radicalized people to storm the capitol the same way osama bin laden inspired people, rather terrorists in 9/11. a cnn anchor attacking republican brian mast who lost both his legs fighting overseas questioning whether he cares about democracy. there is grievous deterioration
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happened in washington right now with the way people are talking to each other and the way the media is ever coulding it and attacking. how do you turn down the temperature? because now we've got large parts of washington, d.c., in lockdown. extremist groups r moving in potentially this weekend. 20,000 national guard troops are expected. how do you stop the rhetoric and tone it down? >> well i think president-elect biden and president trump can do their part between now and then. i think once we have the inauguration i think biden will do his best to try to don't things down but you're right, it is going to take, it is going to take a while, there are a lot of problems that the congressman pointed out. there is real double standard about political violence. this is a real problem with the mainstream media and the way they became unhinged during the trump administration. that's a problem and it is not going to be solved overnight. i would like to briefly point
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out something very important the congressman spoke about earlier though. it is not at all settled that you can have a trial of somebody who has already, a president who has already left office. there is, there is only one historical precedent but that didn't involve the president of the united states. and the constitution uses language that implies that the president still has to be the president when he is tried in the senate. so that is not a question that has been settled yet. just thought i would throw that out. elizabeth: interesting. this is news. i hear what you're saying sol. there may not be a senate trial given your read of the constitution. guy, we'll have you back on, congressman, sol wisenberg. that is interesting development. may not happen. thank you for your insights. really appreciate it. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up former fbi assistant deputy director danny coulson. he is well loved in the fbi. we're talking about d.c. in lockdown, looking like a
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militarized zone. there is this story, the fbi warned that 50 straight capitols need to brace for potential extremist groups marching this weekend. what are the top concerns now? are they ready? we'll break it down with danny coulson next. >> i was a state legislator in frankfurt for many years. i can tell you they don't have hardly any security. i know from talking with local law enforcement in the franklin county area, which encompasses the state capital, they beefed up security. the kentucky national guard will be on full alert. like it's supposed to. trulicity is for type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. and i only need to take it once a week. plus, it lowers the risk of cardiovascular events. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it,
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♪. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome former fbi deputy assistant director danny coulson. here's what we're hearing. we reported it last night. we have the associated press picking up what we reported last night. profound concerns among law enforcement about pipe bombs, about homemade bombs put around the capitol over, starting this weekend through inauguration. we don't know when it will begin. but also ieds in vehicles as well parked around the capitol. your thoughts on that? >> well anytime you plan for public events you plan for that. i did many public events that i have done. ieds in vehicles are super scary but there is ways to deal with that. you deal with it through roadblocks. searching commercials vehicles.
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jersey barricades so the vehicles can't drive right into the site detonate the things. a lot of bomb dogs. they have a new dog that is vapor weight dog, that can actually deter or detect explosive residue in vapor form from 20, 30 yards away. there is a lot of techniques they have and pa toll and physician can searches. they can deal with this but they have got to take it seriously. elizabeth: danny they have yet to catch the guy showing on split screen on camera. you can see him planting people bomb at dnc and rnc headquarters. the fbi successfully detonated it. they could see extremist groups coming this weekend. are the state capitals ready. what do you think? >> i don't think they are. they are not ready because of the governors. the governors set the tone here. in the state of washington the governor has decided that they can't use non-lethal force.
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they can't use pepper spray, they can't use tear gas. they need to take this seriously. we don't need to live, liz, in a mad max world where if you have power you dominate people, you dominate our government. we can't have that. stability is very important. we got together at the dawn of time for security reasons. we didn't get together for welfare or to have a caveman band. we got together for security. we're failing at that right now. we failed at 100 days in portland. we failed in the capitol. we need to get our act together to take this seriously and prosecute those individuals who foment this type of really revolutionary type activity. elizabeth: there is 25 terrorism cases brought, 170 suspects. more coming in. there is a deep concern among law enforcement, talking to our sources there is powerful law enforcement push in d.c. to protect it. that is happening now, zero tolerance. are you worried extremists could
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peel away see it happening in washington and do mayhem in state capitals instead? >> absolutely. you go to the easiest target. one thing to keep in mind is that our society spawned tim mcveigh at a time where there wasn't that much conflict. now we have a lot of conflict. what will that spawn for us? law enforcement has to be extremely watchful. the fbi is doing good job getting warnings and notices out. they have to take it seriously. we need to ramp it up intelligence gathering cape alt inside the country is more than important than outside the country. elizabeth: danny, which state capitals are you worried about? >> definitely washington. they have had terrible problems up there i'm worried about pour land. i commanded that division for a while. i live in texas. elizabeth: are you worried about michigan? >> oh, yes, of course. we know they focused on the governor there. they were going to kidnap her. so i would think that the
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strongest possible presence, plus her security detail needs to get way ramped up. we don't need to have her injured or kidnapped or attacked, even. michigan is a huge one. elizabeth: yeah. again we're watching the, what the thinking is there. potential use of drones to drop ieds. this is the worst case scenario talked about law enforcement. 4,000 encircling the perimeter of the capitol with firearms. so we'll bring you back on, danny. we're going to stay on this story as these events unfold and developments come in. danny coulson. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, i always enjoy it, liz. it's a pleasure. elizabeth: same here. up next fox news contributor joe concha on this debate. who is dividing the country. elon musk of tessa says it is facebook's zuckerberg and social media. they're accused of censorship and polarizing americans. that debate is next.
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they are polarizing america, they're dividing the country. elon musk blames them. where do you come down? >> i come down on the side of the american people, elizabeth. it is good to see you. there is a poll that came out well before you saw all the censorship in october starting with the hunter biden story from pew research. i believe it was early october. they found one in 10 americans believe social media has a positive impact on the country. one in 10. he is right on the money there. gallup also found overall 86% of americans feel that the media in general bears the blame for divide in this country. so don't argue with elon musk. he is only the richest guy in the world. i think he is on to something here. elizabeth: he is saying the rioting, the rioting, americans have had it, joe. you and i talked about it. they're sick and tired of media and democrats ignoring the rioting happened last year. 220 riots, 30 people dead.
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2000 cops injured. minority communities and businesses torched. the media didn't cover it. they didn't have the proper outcry against it to stop it. violence is always wrong. when you have that going on, it is not getting addressed in the media, people go on social media. that is an echo machine. it's a radicalization machine. it basically, triggers, keys into emotions, not your intellect in order for you to stay on their platforms longer so they can make an ad buck. that is why we're splitting into tribes as mitch mcconnell says when we live under one bill of right, one constitution. what do you think? >> i'm going to fact check you on one small thing, elizabeth. i understand your point completely. elizabeth: go ahead. >> the media covered the riots over the summer but the way they covered them leaves a lot to be desired. you heard about mostly peaceful protests going on, right? literally you will have a reporter behind him it looks like the plaza at the end of
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"die hard." there are flames everywhere. all the police officer deaths last year, there were more police officer deaths in 2020 than we've seen since 1974. some of that was covid-based. because police officers were out during the mass protests around people in close quarters. of course all the violence that you mentioned as well. the double standard is there. it is because joe biden and kamala harris didn't bring up, denouncing these protests even once, even during the democratic national convention where 26 million people watched him do his acceptance speech. yeah, they wanted to push their candidate over the finish line. they believed in the cause so to speak, they covered that one way and the capitol siege which was a horrific event, re pugnant anybody involved there should go to jail very long time. believe me. i believe that. elizabeth: we hear you. yes. we absolutely hear what you're saying. so silence, does that mean in the media, you're okay with it,
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you're excusing it, you're okay with it? how about an apology? saying you know what? we were wrong. we have called out president trump, we have called him out on this show. we had critics calling him out this show. we didn't see the media enough calling out the destruction of property and american lives. 30 people dead. let's get back to elon musk. he is basically saying, listen, people are not going to like it that the west coast high-tech crowd are now going to be the arbiters of free speech. listen, they're allowed to do what they want with their platforms, does that mean that companies are allowed to do what they want with their businesses in lockdown? can those companies now reopen, given, give social media that crowd free rein to do what they're doing in their businesses to divide the country. the point you have to distinguish banning hate speech versus speech you hate. that is what musk is saying is going wrong with social media. your word? >> musk is right. the problem these are privately
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owned companies. they can do whatever they want. okay, the government should step in at least, as far as the monopolies that they own, you saw what happened with parler. parler last week was the most downloaded app in the app store. amazon and google and apple said, uh-uh, that is enough. we have to take them down in the name of public safety and that's the thing. they had an app that was popular but without amazon and their cloud hosting services like the engine to a car, without the app store, without google play which is keys to entry into the car the site dies. anybody else conservative may want to start a competitor with twitter may not be able to do so because the social media giants say uh-uh, we'll control this. faceless oligarchs are making decisions. the problem you have a democratically-controlled congress, a democratically-controlled senate and obviously a democrat in the oval office which benefited greatly from social media,
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whether that be donations or suppression of negative information before the election. so what do you think they are going to do to them? probably nothing. that is a helpless feeling right now. elizabeth: then you finally this, libertarian ron paul, facebook banned his account and then twitter let stand on its platform thousands of tweets attacking senator rand paul, even encouraging another assault of senator rand paul who had six ribs cracked, he had to have surgery to remove part of his lung but you're allowed to make fun of that, encourage another assault on him. really amazing stuff coming out of silicon valley. joe concha, you're great. come back on. >> thanks, elizabeth. elizabeth: you're watching the fox business network. we're coming out of the bottom of the hour. just ahead one of the country's top experts on china, michael pillsbury on this story. senator barbara boxer does about face, why? a big backlash after she
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registered as foreign agent for a blacklisted chinese company that sells surveillance cameras to do surveillance on chinese prisoners and labor streets. here's the question, are politicians too quick to put us at risk, others at risk by taking money from china? the story next. >> this is what keeps the chinese communists in party is the surveillance state and it uses these technologies to surveil people abroad but also in particular to run a police state. ♪. ♪ ♪ (quiet piano music)
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we have democrat, former senator barbara boxer. she is backtracking saying you know what? what i will not do lobbying for a blacklisted chinese surveillance company. what do you think of that story? >> i was pretty shocked when barbara boxer was a senator for 24 years, she was one of the main crusaders on the democrats for human rights. to lobby for a country, in this case a company, which is deeply involved in the suppression of the uyghurs, they have been called out by many agencies around the world for doing this. secretary pompeo called it the stain of the century how the chinese tweet the uyghurs. to lobby for a company involved in the suppression of human rights, i just think she didn't know what she was doing. she was good to register as a foreign agent. obviously she was. many don't. they take money from china but say i'm not lobbying. there must have been pressure from her own party saying hey, don't do this.
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elizabeth: somebody new -- biden inaugural committee turned back her donation, you know, after this came, this surfaced. how did she not know that hike vision usa is a union of a company in china makes surveillance cameras effectively being called concentration camp for muslim uyghurs where they're doing things like forced labor, coercive birth control, organ harvesting? those kind of accusations. they make cameras to do surveillance on u.s. military even neighborhoods and u.s. streets, that is out of the "wall street journal." so how does she not know? >> we can't say she is stupid but she is not being very smart. liz, this is really are the tip of the iceberg. there are a lot of former politicians who get a lot of money from chinese companies and they are serving as foreign
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agents in the sense of lobbying. part of the reason is the chinese have been so sophisticated we're a good country, we're a normal country. we have a lot of people who demonize china. that leaves team in between well is this hitler's germany or a country i can work for? barbara boxer caught on the naive side of the debate. all we can do is educate the people more. this is the nature of the regime what they try to do. don't work for them. it's a long way to go before we get that established, liz. elizabeth: hike vision is on a blacklist, on the trump administration blacklist as of 2019. >> question. elizabeth: we have also china targeted eric swalwell and other politicians across the country. how deep does this go? >> yes. it goes pretty deep. there is a theory that northern california is in particular an area of kind of a zone ever influence for the chinese where
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they work hard to subvert politicians. that is not the only area. they have a tremendous focus on their image as a good country. in fact we still invest more than two trillion u.s. dollars in chinese companies and in the chinese economy in general. so as long as the fact is there, we have the largest embassy in the world in beijing. we continue to have exchange programs. betsy devos and rick -- approved in 2017. many americans still think china is a normal country. people are trying to change that. my book argued they're not a normal country but we have a long way to go, liz. elizabeth: all right. michael pillsbury, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your insights. good to see you. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: okay next up former state department official christian whiton with his thoughts on the house impeaching president trump for a second time as d.c. has turned into a veritable militarized zone to
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♪. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show former state department official christian whiton. christian, your thoughts on the president getting impeach ad second time? it is an historic moment. your thoughts? >> it is an absurdity and doesn't rise, what happened doesn't rise to the level of impeachment i don't think. there is the simple fact this man will leave office in seven days. the idea that congress needs to be seized by this seems rather absurd. they say they want to stain him in history. history will judge him. he already has been impeached once.
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i think it is really sad to see 10 republicans, including liz cheney, a member of leadership, break ranks to support the democrat effort. it is not just about impeaching donald trump. it is about going after everyone who supported for donald trump or voted for donald trump or shared his political concerns. that is really afoot here. once again we find republicans are not up to the job of defending those people. elizabeth: joe biden says he will be leader for all but we do have, you know, the 75 million who voted for president trump. you see the criticism coming out right now against them. they had their concerns. they voted for the president's agenda for a reason, for border security, for tax cuts, for you know, don't forget the little guy, the forgotten man and woman who is trying to just make, get their small business up and running. so how do you go forward? those 75 million, they ain't going away. >> that's right. most of those people, frankly
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like a lot of democrats discuss want their share of the american dream, and to see them, maybe joe biden is not doing it himself certainly people acting on his behalf in the progressive movement are trying to tar all those people are knuckle dragging racist insurrectionists waiting for next chance to storm the capitol or state capitals. they will not go away. i don't think they're happy with cancellation of them or their efforts. that will be a big political factor. elizabeth: i'm sorry, i don't mean to interrupt. i don't mean to talk over you, we're on a time delay given how we do the show thee days. christian, many trump supporters denounced and condemned what the president said. they didn't like it. they agreed with his agenda. they didn't like how he handled that? >> that is understandable and it is debatable. what he said by definition did not meet the standard of uncitement but reasonable people can believe it was not wise for
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him to protest the outcome of the election as long as he did. it wasn't wise to assemble a crowd in the capitol city to do what happened t was not good thing for everyone, the progressive left taking advantage for the capitol to be invaded. what is on top of big effort by hollywood, by media, corporate culture, certainly coming from the west coast but even if you worked for any old corporation in the u.s., that if you say you loved joe biden you're a progressive, that is a okay. if you say well trump has some good ideas, maybe i support some of things he stood for you have to fear for your job now. so there is going to be i think a big reaction against this mccarthyite zeitgeist afoot. elizabeth: your thoughts d.c. is in a lockdown, militarized environment right now with 20,000 national guard troops. that is more than the troops in afghanistan and iraq combined. this doesn't feel like a good moment for the country. >> it certainly doesn't.
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it's a tremendous overreaction. after all remember what happened, several hundred, unarmed are mostly unarmed -- elizabeth: the fbi has threats. >> they do. if those are real keep in mind, so 20,000, 20,000 troops, that is two times the size of the los angeles police department. so into washington which already has the capitol police, who have a budget of more than half a billion dollars. it is more than doubled in the last 20 years. you have the washington metropolitan police. you're now putting in two l.a.p.d.s on top of that you have everyone coming from new york and everywhere. no one is in town. the businesses are closed. feels like a banana republic. they finally made increase in decision of wall around the white house so people could not easily jump over it. i think that is few guys. if you had fewer guys with machine guns it would look less than a banana republic. our capitol is turning into a
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armed camp. donald trump bears some blame. but the left is taking advantage of the situation, going hysterical. we're not seeing perspective we should expect from our leaders. >> there is concern other state capitols may need the national guard troops as danny coal sound coulson was talking to me about. christian whiton. thanks for talking with me. appreciate it. >> thank you, elizabeth. elizabeth: former california republican party chair tom del beccaro on this story. americans have had it. they're sick of the lockdowns. they understand covid-19 is deadly and dangerous. nobody wants to die from that. they don't want loved ones dead from that. criticism is growing against a democrat new york governor a bungled lockdown and bungling vaccinations in new york state and new york city. the story next. >> we're talking their own backyard, that cuomo and de blasio have destroyed. so the coverage should be one of you got to be kidding me, one year after you destroyed our
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of this-year-old pandemic. this stunning statistic, west virginia and tennessee are beating new york state with vaccinations. new york state has only given out a third of its vaccines. new york state hospitals have only given out a fifth of its vaccines. democrats are bungling it here with a state to provides 10% of the country's gdp. what is going on? >> it is the same here in california. the truth new york and california governors have been in control since april. they were aprizeed when this was coming, and they had more than enough time to prepare for this. here in california they didn't add any icu beds when they were told it would be a increase of cases. this is the failure of cuomo and failure of newsom, and why both of them need to be taken out of office. >> we understand. you're in charge of the recall effort for governor newsom.
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here in new york state the new york state governor signed executive orders basically codifying as rules and laws cdc guidelines. then slapping people with fines and tickets and penalties if they vaccinated the wrong person. anothers if you vaccinated somebody younger than age 75, could you be hit with a fine. that is why hospitals, health workers throwing out vaccines. they're going after a new rochelle hospital, taking their vaccine supplies because they didn't give the vaccine to eligible individual. what are they doing? >> only in government could you come up with this craziness. i thought an emergency was going on? shouldn't we just give vaccines to as many people as possible in some sort of coordinated fashion? but this is good enough for government work and again, this is happening at the state level. we heard so much for nine months this was the trump
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administration's fault. we knew that was false but here you go. this is incompetence at the government level. it should not be blamed or cause more problems for the private sector. cuomo's about-face on opening or whatever you describe what he is doing, his biden moment where biden is coming in, so he wants to reopen, they have bungled this. we have paid the price. it is why you and me are so exorcised about this. elizabeth: to your point, not, also on top of bungling, cuomo has scared people. he has has intimidated them. he has panicked them. he said we didn't foresee this urban crisis. now we'll do pop-up art events with amy schumer when broadway is designated. when tourism is wrecked here. now, these guys never rolled up their sleeves, him and de blasio, they never went into small businesses saying what do you need? do you need plexiglass? do you need temperature devices?
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how can we help you? instead they shut them down and they ruined the restaurant industry and ruined the hotel industry, they ruined tourism, ruined the culture of new york, a state that provides 10% of the gdp? tom, where is the recall effort in new york state? >> that is a good point. we have been asked to help with the recall of the l.a. d.a. and the san francisco d.a. new york needs to do something similar. as you point out they're doing it from the comfort of their office. they don't actually go out in the real world to see how it is affecting people but i guess cuomo's ideas, they will revive the marijuana industry that will help the economy? they really have lost touch and it's time for, look, my family got started in new york with the election of a buckley. maybe it is time they wake up really press on a cuomo. elizabeth: cuomo is talking
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about legalizing pop in order to make up for the big hole that he brew out in the state's revenues going along with these lockdowns and threatening people with loss of their operating licenses, ticketing people, harassing them, with these really rigid bureaucrat rules. people have had it. people are leaving the state. 34 billion in income reportedly has left new york. so what does that mean for the little guy left here struggling to open the business? their middle class taxes are going to go up. your final word. >> absolutely, in california they're thinking about raising taxes. they raised it nine billion over three years on small businesses as if they have the money now to pay further penalty. who will write the check to cuomo after they put, after cuomo put them out of business? they need to fight back. elizabeth: all right. tom del beccaro, thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. >> take care. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. thank you so much for watching. hope you have a good evening.
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us again tomorrow night tomorro. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the house of representatives has voted to send a single article of impeachment against president trump to the senate. ten rino republicans voted along with the radical dems for the, quote, incitement of an insurrection allegation. those republicans are liz cheney, jamie herera butler, john cath coe, adam kinzinger and peter meyer. and fred upton, dan newhouse, anthony
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