monday. radio host larry elder, attorney, former federal prosecutor robert wray, just the news founder john solomon returns with a document released from the white house. have a good weekend and good night from sussex. elizabeth: tonight, major controversy in washington. senate judiciary releases newly-declassified documents in the trump-russia probe revealing james comey's fbi knew right from the start, one fbi or agent in new york said it was, quote, completely obvious the fbi was using clinton campaign opposition research to go after trump. but the fbi went ahead anyway. and what senator lindsey graham now calls a, quote, massive system failure, he says this was out of bias. he calls it one of the most incompetent and corrupt investigations in the history of the fbi and the justice department. with us tonight,kt mcfarland,

jim trusty, dan gainor along with fox news' janice dean, tom homan on these top headlines. weaver going to break down what we found in the documents. it's deeply concerning. it appears to be worse than we previously reported and realized. we're also going to talk to you about this story, twitter indicating it will censor more accounts to root out violent content. there's audio of an insider meeting with jack dorsey, ceo of twitter. we've got it for you with. this as a growing number of conservatives fears censorship and attacks on free speech and their policies. they say they're seeing it already happening with the left and the media. also fox news' janice dean joins us tonight. janice dean called out new york governor cuomo after she lost her senior citizen in-laws in the nursing home in new york state because of governor cuomo's botched policies. and now this, his office is

trying to pick a fight with janice dean for telling the truth. it ain't playing. we're going to show you also how new york has botched their shutdowns, and now new york ranks among the worst states in the country in covid vaccinations. plus, the new, growing push, it's a grassroots push that's happening coast to coast to reopen the economy. now this, it got a big boost from the democrat chicago mayor, lori lightfoot, saying restaurants should open as quickly as possible. they're doing what they should to stop covid-19. other politicians elsewhere are pushing back saying stay shut down. we've got this, a small business owner in new jersey fighting for his life. he says new jersey state officials emptied out his bank account after he acted in defiance and stayed open. and we're going to take you to the border. this disturbing story, border authorities report a disturbing rise in the use of drones. they're called narco-drones. drug cartels are literally

sending drones flying over the border and over u.s. neighborhoods to deliver hard far cot igs like heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine and fentanyl. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: okay, let's welcome to former trump deputy national security adviser, author of "trump, washington and we the people," kt. i know you're fired up about this newly-declassified trump-russia document. what do you think? >> oh, i think it's a lot more than a massive system failure, it's for sure that, but how much of it was politically motivated? what lindsey graham has now released are 11 transcripts that they've had, his committee had with senior officials of the fbi, department of justice. and what they've said is a couple of things. one, number one, the whole

thing, the whole russia investigation, the fisa warrants, all the stuff we've been talking about for years, all of it was based on a fraud. and they knew it was based on a fraud. and it was christopher steele. he's the one that gave the document, he's the one they all relied on. and yet now it turns out that he was using, you know, he was working one degree of separation for the hillary clinton campaign. so this is the justice department, the fbi, the people who are supposed to be nonpartisan, protect the nation, and they were taking a really serious political stand. so it's rotten. it's rotten to the core. elizabeth: okay. we're reading through it. a new york bureau official, an agent in the fbi, said -- told -- said this these declassified tock yules, quote -- documents, it was completely obvious from the get go this was political, that someone was paid, that a political party was paying for this information. kt, this agent said that in the new york bureau in july 2016,

but then that investigation got moved to the d.c. bureau. here's the issue to what you're saying. hillary clinton was basically getting hit with an e-mail server scandal. the cia warned the fbi and president obama that the hillary clinton campaign was cooking up a trump-russia collusion story go after trump to distract from that scandal. so then what unfolds, kt? >> well, then the fbi takes it and runs with it. they cook up the scandal. you know, oldest trick in the book, liz, in politics is if you've got a problem, you want to deflect attention to somebody else's problem. and that's exactly what they did, they deflected attention from hillary clinton's problem to a potential problem that donald trump might have or which they knew was probably made up. turns out it was made up from the very beginning. but, again, here's the thing that i find so upsetting. after september 11th we gave our intelligence community, our

justice department, fbi, we gave them enormous power to protect us from terrorists and to protect us from, you know, bad guys. but what did they do with those powers in they abused them, and they used them to go after political parties. they became as partisan as the hillary clinton, as a political campaign. this is our justice department. these are the people who are supposed to be above it. and they not only became political, but they knew exactly what they were doing. they went after people like me, a whole lot of other people. they knew there was no there there, they knew no crimes had been committed, and yet they went after it. why? because they wanted to take down a president of the united states before he even got the oath of office under way. elizabeth: so, you know, when you look at how it awe unfolded, you do -- all unfolded, the fbi knew early on that the steele dossier with, remember, the hillary clinton campaign expect

democrat national committee helped fund the law firm, christopher steele and his work. he cooks up this steele dossier alleging that trump was engaging in, you know, illicit, salacious activity as james comey would later testify in moscow. they tried to hook trump and connect him to the hack, to russia's hack of democrat e-mails. so what happens next, kt, is that -- this shows how disturbingly easy it is to get powerful fisa wiretaps meant for terrorists. those evidence files that you need to get a fisa wiretap from a secret fisa court are missing. you were hit with a fisa wiretap, right? so these are -- this is a pretty dangerous thing that they use this opposition research to get a fisa wiretap that, you know, to spy on people. tell us about that, what happened to you. >> okay. well, what happened to me was the mueller investigation came after me, and they, quote, interviewed me under the guise

of wanting to find out what did i know about the russians, how had the russians interfered. i said i wasn't on the campaign, i didn't know any of that stuff, but i more than anybody wanted to know what the russians were up to and what they'd done and how we could prevent anybody from doing that again. and yet it slowly became obvious to me that their a real goal was to try to trick me, to try to catch me in what they call a perjury trap. in other words, they could say what about that phone call? i would say i think that was on tuesday morning. and they would say, well, it was really on wednesday night. obviously, you should have known that the, you're lying, therefore, we're going to potentially prosecute you. and i think that's what they did to a number of people. they caught them. now, in my case i just said, look, i'm not going to lie, i'm not going to lie about myself, i'm not going to lie about the activities of other people, and, you know, if you want to come after me, you come after me. but what they do, at the end of the day what the justice department and the fbi and the mueller investigation, they can bankrupt people.

even if they couldn't get people on crimes, they could get them on what are called process crimes. even if they can't get that, they can bankrupt you. it's hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal fees. they've got infinite resources. elizabeth: so the new york bureau knew, the new york fbi bureau knew, according to these the declassified docs, that something was shady and wrong. then it gets kicked over to the d.c. bureau under comey. so then under comey they get nice a wiretaps which, this is like one-hop, two-hop wire wiretaps where if you're talking to somebody, they can dig into that person's bank accounts or phone records. but they were using the steele dossier that the russian source was saying this is gossip, it's speculation, it's hearsay said over beers. to they knew that it was weak -- so they knew that it was weak and shady. and then you have the justice department official, stuart evans, saying, wait a second,

you've got to put the brakes on this. you can't take this to the fisa court and get a wiretap. but they did it anyway, and then comey signed after on it. and, kt, he later testified that he knew the steele dossier was salacious gossip. what's going on? >> somebody needs to ask james comey, andrew mccabe. none of these guys are going to be held responsible for their actions. not only did they plot a coup against a duly-elected president, political assassination, call it what you want, but none of them are held accountable for it. and and that's why i find the time that we are in right now, liz, where there are two sets of justice, one set if you're a republican, another if you're a democrat; one if your a trump supporter, another if you were a hillary clinton, barack obama, joe biden supporter. and that the, i think, is at the core of the rot and the criticism that, half the country has against the washington establishment and the people in charge. they seem to have two kinds of

justice. one for me and another for thee. and i think it's even worst saying and pointing out take a step back on what does this mean. this means the justice d., the fbi knew that they were basing an entire or investigation on a report, a steele dossier, that probably was fed to them by the russians. that's pretty serious stuff. elizabeth: and paid for by the democrat party. i mean, this is what we're getting out of these documents. kt, you are going to stay with us. we're going to bring in federal former -- former federal prosecutor jim trusty for more on these documents. on these documents. we're going to take a quick on these documents. we're going to take a quick on these documents. we're going to take a quick on these documents. we're going to take a quick ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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very interesting now that he's been given that status as senior counsel. this is a real integrity test for merrick garland as attorney general to see whether or not he takes the same course of action that barr did in a special counsel report which is not only releasing it to congress, but to the general public. i think there's going to be an interesting reckoning here if we see how the durham investigation turns out sometime in early 2021. elizabeth: yeah. we're still waiting on the durham investigation, kt. and given what jim trusty was just saying, kt, let's jump into the way back machine. let's jump back into the time machine and go back to august of 2016 when peter e strzok was texting lisa page, and lisa page was saying -- at the fbi -- trump is never going to be president, right, right? and peter strzok said, no, we're going to stop him. and then within a couple months, strzok was texting lisa page saying stuart evans at the justice department is slowing us down trying to get the fisa wiretap on carter page. he's putting up a fight.

so, and then you just pointed out, kt, that, yeah, there was that democrat-funded steele dossier that was being used to wiretap carter page. so your take on the context of that, kt. >> well, i think it is important to go back and look at the timeline of this. before the election they thought, well, trump will never win. but anyway, just in case, let's set the scenes now. let's put the things in motion just in case so we can then turn back to those things if donald trump does win, and we can destroy his presidency. they had already set the thing up. they probably didn't need to use it in their minds. and even after trump was elected, you know, they didn't like it, they had a resistance internally, but the real thing started and it got steam and it got going once jim comey was fired. before that it was maybe in the vault, could use it if they needed it, but then once jim comey was fired, it was all steam ahead.

have a special counsel, have an investigation, go back and look at that steele dossier which we know is a fraud. let's go after everybody. i absolutely absolutely put it in jim comey's laugh. elizabeth: so, jim, what you're saying, you understand what the insurance policy is peter strzok and lisa page were talking about, was it leaking the steele dossier to the media to deflect away from the hillary clinton e-mail scandal? jim, what do you think? was that the insurance policy, the steele dossier? >> well, the context of it certainly makes it sound like it's a political poison pill, something that could be released that would keep trump from being elected. and makes me, again, want to step back for a qckui sd. yo yow, i ictenoraleraleralal portrepo thirepo thine thihi w y damning. 's 's muc's m morh thnhnnt mieasae or nasanfe,ces malfnceasancnde, at's at' a at'i rt.port buthey' tnsti instiontulytulyly comple.te. tospectoren gerer don't draw askiekieokieoo draw d d d rigowa maybe mayberymayberommoyberommoenommoo

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the united states, i was the most, one of the most powerful people in american foreign policy at the beginning of the administration. if they can go after people like us, they can go after anybody they like. and, again, what kind of justice do we have here? and the other thing, we haven't seen everything yet. my sources tell me there's a whole tranche of documents that are coming sunday night or monday, declassified documents, far more extensive than what lindsey graham and the judiciary committee released today, and things that are going to absolutely speak to how much the fbi knew, how much the senior leadership knew, when did they know it and how how did they abuse their positions of trust and power? the other thing -- elizabeth: [inaudible] yeah, go ahead. >> no, but here's one more thing that's worth pointing out. joe biden is starting to appoint some of these same people who were part of the resistance, who were part of the senior leadership in the intelligence and national security committees. he's starting to appoint them to

senior positions in the biden administration. so not only are these people not going to ever be held accountable for it, they've been promoted for it. elizabeth: all right. kt or and jim, i wish we had more time. maybe you guys can come back on monday. we're going to keep digging and look for that document download that kt just referenced. thank you so much for your insights, really appreciate it. >> sure thing. elizabeth: coming up, media research vice president dan gainor on this new audiotape coming out about twitter's ceo jack dorsey saying we're going to censor more accounts. twitter saying it's to root out violent content, but where was twitter over years after years? twitter's making money off of that. all of this is coming into context too, separate from that, of these attacks on free speech and conservative powers by the left in the media. finish how is that being justified? the story next.

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he's 100% right. you've got twitter, which even jack dorsey admits what they did by de-platforming the president of the united states, he admits it's dangerous, you know? the you've got world leaders that are now worried about it because they're wondering if their countries, mexico or germany, can stand up to such power. meanwhile, the lies from twitter. oh, we went after him because of violence. they have platformed terrorists. if iran, which is the world's leading exporter of terrorism, which murdered 600 american servicemen in iraq, oh, well, they're okay, they're on twitter. china, which commits genocide against the uighur muslims, they're on twitter to blame americans for the virus, blame the american military, or to rationalize their genocide. elizabeth: okay. so twitter is saying essentially that, and they've said it for months now, that what the president was tweeting out was wrong, was incorrect. we've talked to sources close to

them, effectively they felt that the president was totally misleading about voter fraud. so they, they then shut it down because they thought that the president was dividing the country. i'm just reporting to you, i'm not judging it either way, and now they're saying they're going to take a much broader approach. they've wiped out 70,000 q-anon accounts for peddling conspiracy theories that is poison to the body -- the public conversation. but he's now talking about a much broader a approach. so nobody knows what he's going after. what are you, what's your take on everything that i just said? >> well, much farther is probably going to be a lot more conservatives. twitter will just be an echo chamber. and we're seeing it across platforms. it's not just twitter, it's not just facebook. look at amazon, amazon was the chief villain in taking down parler. you couldn't download parler because google and apple, you know, seemingly were working

together. but then amazon was just owned by the same guy who owns "the washington post" took down parler. and, you know, then they go around and say, well, we're going to remove q-anon stuff from there too, but it's amazing what they didn't remove. we found more than 200 items on amazon talking about hate, hate against police. we found nazi jewelry. and, of course, my favorite, the t-shirt that said kill all republicans. oh, you can find that -- as far as we can tell, they got rid of the t-shirt because that made them look really bad. elizabeth: okay. so the freedom to speak, your right to free speech is way more important than jack dorsey's freedom to try to ban you or cancel whomever the left or jack dorsey disagrees with. we understand with private companies that the first amendment doesn't apply to them, but twitter's a powerful platform with, you know, billions follow it around the

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ten months. and it started because my his lost his parents in separate elder care facilities in new york. i wasn't going to speak out about this. you know i'm not a political person. i never have been. i'm the meteorologist on fox. but because the golf was not -- the governor was not answering questions about his march 25th order that put covid-positive patients in nursing homes for 46 days, over 6,000 of them, that i think helped contribute to not only my in-laws' death, but thousands of others because the governor wasn't being asked the questions. i thought it was important to raise my voice so that i could speak on behalf of those that don't have one. so over the last ten months, i've been kind of an advocate on, you know, the seniors and the policies and the fact that this governor has not taken any responsibility for these deaths or given us answers. we still don't have the exact total number of seniors that got covid in their elder care facilities and have died like my

mother-in-law got covid in her assisted living facility but died in the hospital, but her number doesn't count because governor cuomo is the only governor that doesn't count those that died in the hospital. elizabeth: that's baffling. i mean, he's treated as a hero in the media when -- and also now we have that botched policy, we have a botched shutdown in new york. the mayor, bill de blasio, is begging cuomo's office for vaccines. we have -- look at the number of states that are beating new york state in terms of vaccinations. you're going to see on the list north dakota, south dakota, west virginia, tennessee. and so you're, i think you're raising issues, you know, questions about that too. but then his office is going after you now saying you're not a, quote, you're not a credible source on anything except maybe the weather. that sounds pretty sexist. >> yeah, that's certainly one way to describe it.

his administration are notorious for being bullies just like the governor, and, you know, i would say that maybe the governor should concentrate more on leading and protecting the seniors that we have alive today and getting those vaccines into their arms instead of celebrating himself. he had a west selling book, he had -- best selling book, he had a poster, he was going around celebrating his birthday with his favorite celebrities and charging $1,000 with, you know, money going to his campaign. instead of celebrating yourself, governor, and winning an emmy award, how about actually leading your state and saving those that are alive today? elizabeth: you know, florida has a bigger population, it has vaccinated more seniors than any other state. texas has vaccinated one million. and then, you know, we see hospital workers, janice, in new york, we're seeing reports that they're so scared, they're so panicked, they're so intimidated

by governor cuomo's administration and his rules that they're literally throwing out vaccine because the people are not eligible urge his rules x. then he's ticketing people, he's fining people, he's harassing people. can you talk about that? >> well, the list goes on. you know, the man has been in power for many years, and he is feared and revered here in new york. i certainly have discovered that. i've had blue checks on twitter, you know, famous people, appropriators that have basically whispered -- reporters that have basically whispered in my ear people are afraid to speak out because of his bullying administration. and, you know, he likes to rule with an iron fist. he doesn't like to, you know, go by what the counties want to do. i mean, the counties have been rehearsing this pandemic for many years. there was a system in place, but he completely blew it up and decided it was going to be run by the hospitals. and then he would say maybe the

hospitals were the ones that were lining his pocketbooks. so, you know, there's a lot of things to unpack if maybe some journalists would do that. i'm the meteorologist. i'm speaking up on behalf of my his' parents, and i will continue -- my husband's parents, and i will continue to do so, but i would love some help from the mainstream media. elizabeth: yeah. of we're so sorry that your family suffered through this, you know? it just feels so unfair and so wrong, what you and sure husband have endured. and, you know, we keep hearing from people here in new york and other states where there's massive shutdowns and lockdowns, are these politicians rolling up their sleeves, are they getting out there talking to people saying, hey, what do you need? how can we help you? do you need plexiglas to open your businesses? what do you need, hospitals, in terms of vaccinations. what are we doing wrong. instead, janice, it feels so top-down, so bureaucratic. what do you say? final word. >> i agree with you, liz. and that's the problem.

i think this governor has ruled like he is the king, and, you know, we're his servants. and whatever he says is what the rule of law is. and that's not how a democracy should work. so i would like all lawmakers on both sides to rise up and say, you know what? we've got a big problem here. we need to save more lives, not lose them. elizabeth: all right. janice dean, you're pretty good for a meteorologist there the, janice. [laughter] >> i love ya. elizabeth: okay. same here. >> thanks, my friend. elizabeth: all right, next up, former san diego mayor, republican kevin falconer, he's fired up, he's really angry. he doesn't like what he sees in california. we're going to talk to him about the growing push coast to coast to reopen the economy. yes, people get it, covid-19 is lethal, it's dangerous. but now this, chicago mayor lori lightfoot says open restaurants

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. we've got some break news. joe biden is saying he's going to call in the national guard and set up mobile vaccination clinics as well to get 50 million people vaccinated in the first 100 days of his administration. national guard, that's what health officials have been saying needs to be done. now we're going to bring to you the former san diego mayor. he's fired up about the shutdowns nationwide. he's republican kevin falconer. it's great of to have you on.

can you talk to us about what's going on in california? we have a grassroots movement taking had in the restaurant industry the nationwide saying you've got to rope. >> well, and i think -- to reopen. >> well, and i think rightfully so. one of the things i've been pushing very hard on is, yes, let's follow the science. yet when our governor here shut down all outdoor dining, shut down restaurants with no science behind that, that's why you're seeing that anger, that's why you're seeing that frustration all up and down our state. and i've been very vocal. i said we need to save lives, and we also need to save livelihoods. the two go hand in hand. elizabeth: you know, these small businesses are half the u.s. economy, half the job force. we're seeing in new york state governor cuomo's own numbers show 1.4% of covid cases come out of restaurants and bars. is that the same for california? >> well, i will tell you when we look at the fact that our tourism economy has been shut

down, as i said, our restaurants have been shut down, outdoor dining with no reason, you're not seeing the science that backs that up. you're exactly right, the backbone of every city, you know, san diego, the eighth largest city in the country, is our maul businesses. small businesses. and we ought to be doing everything we can to protect and help them. yes, follow all of the protocols, all of the safety protocols. but yet we have seen particularly when it comes to restaurants they can do all of that, be open and be safe. elizabeth: so mayor lori lightfoot of chicago, the democrat, she's getting applauded. she's saying, you know what? restaurants are highly regular lated, they're inspected frequently -- [laughter] they've gone above and beyond to make restaurants safe. reopen them. >> yes. elizabeth: she's saying do it, do it now. people see big box stores like target, costco, home depot open, then they're going after the little guys, right?

and we're talking about families whose children need to be fed. we're talking about seniors who need to be taken care of. we're talking about people need to pay the mortgage, the utilities, the college tuition. and you know what we're seeing in the new jersey -- final word from me -- [laughter] is a new jersey gym owner, he opened up. they emptied out his bank account, $165,000. that's what new jersey did to him, and he's in a court fight. take that on. >> well, i'll tell you, you're exactly right, and that's why we're all fighting. we're fighting for common sense. we're fighting for families that are hurting all up and down our state of california who have done the right thing, and that's the point. they took the precautions. they did everything that they were told to do. and i will tell you in san diego because of the governor's orders of moving the goalpost out here in california, we've had businesses that have been open and shut literally four times. that's unsustainable. you cannot expect a business to survive. and, again, they want to do the right thing. they want to keep people healthy and safe. and, by and large are, they have

done that. and it's type for leadership that recognizes that you can save lives and livelihoods at the same time. elizabeth: and we've got a story breaking today, a new international study. it looks at countries that did lockdowns and shutdowns and those that didn't. it found it didn't stop the virus. it seems the virus goes wherever it's going to go despite lockdowns or shutdowns. there was a study of south korea, countries in europe that locked down or didn't lock down, and it found it didn't matter. lockdowns didn't do anything to stop the spread. final word on that, mayor. >> well, i'll tell you, we all want the same a thing. we want to get everybody healthy. we want to get on the other side of this. but yet when you have lockdowns that are not based on science, again with that great example of outdoor dining being banned for no reason, that's when you lose the faith, trust and support of folks all across your state. and i will tell you being out here in california as we are pushing hard to get these vaccines on, for us to be one of the last states in the nation

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elizabeth: look who's back with us, retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan. it's good to see you again. we're hearing residents of neighborhoods at the southern border seeing a dramatic increase in the sky of drones doing, smuggling drugs, flying over the border, over u.s. neighborhoods. what's going on here? >> well, look, the cartels are sophisticated, right? so the u.s. government, the border patrol, cbp uses krones to monitor -- drones to monitor activity on the border. the cartels, they get it. they're heavily funded, they make a lot of money, to they're buying really sophisticated drones. the benefit they see to it, they can bring small amounts of drugs over the border, drop it into a neighborhood where they're hard to track, and even if they get arrested -- even if the drone gets found and seized, who are they going to arrest? because they're back in mexico. so it's a safer way for them to do their business. they've got to do a smaller amount for now, but what's really scary, liz, you know,

when the drones first came out, the ones you can buy on amazon used to carry 1 pound, 5 pounds, now there's a drone that can carry up to 500 pounds. now, it comes at a cost of a quarter million dollars, but we both know the cartels can make that in one shipment. so this is the wave of the future. and, luckily,cbp is trying to keep up with technology where they can track these drones, but it's a walletting that's gone -- battle that's ongoing on the southern border: elizabeth: so you're hanging the wash out in the backyard, you're at the southern border in california, maybe texas. and you see a drone flying overhead. you're saying these drones can carry 35 pounds. if they carry 2 pounds of fentanyl and they drop that drone, that drone drops that fentanyl in a neighborhood, how can people could die? , i mean, fentanyl kills people. fentanyl could kill hundreds of

thousands of people with just 2 pounds of fentanyl. what do you say to that? >> well, look, during the last surge on the border, you know, other 62,000 americans died of opioid overdoses, of which fentanyl is one of them. one killey gram of fentanyl -- kilogram, it's a huge business. the problem is, it's a hundred times more potent than morphine. this is a serious issue for the cbp. i can tell you the cbp does have pretty sophisticated technology than track these drones, and once the drone's captured, the electronics in these drones can be exploited, the intelligence can be exploited, how many routes have they taken, what routes have they taken, so they're building a lot of intelligence off these drones. but the problem is the cartels, they keep changing their tactics as cbp figures it out. this thing's been going on for decades, cartels versus law enforcement. there's one step ahead of the other, then the other catches up. now it's getting much more

sophisticated. elizabeth: well, we're hearing homeland security sources are are saying this is historic amounts of drone usage that they're seeing. one drone they picked up hundreds of flights this drone made of drug smuggling. they've never seen it used at such a level because, as you said, i mean, drones are cheaper than tunnels and human smugglers and planes and boats. they cost, like, $5,000 at best buy or wherever to carry 35 pounds. but the thing is they're too -- nobody knows, officials keep saying we don't know how many drones are flying over the border, and they cannot be detected by some government radar. they look like -- drug cartels are putting software in the drones to make it look like birds are flying by, or tom. what do you say to that? okay. looks like we lost tom homan. we're getting -- do we have tom or no in okay, we lost tom.

okay. let's bring in gerri willis. so sorry for the technical difficulties. you live in new york state and you've been listening to the conversation. what do you think about that conversation, gerri? >> you know, i gotta tell you, that is one of the most frightening things i think i have ever heard. and i think the way you put it was, in particular, really, really good. say you're in your backyard, you're hanging out the wash, and here comes a drone and drops fentanyl in your back -- i mean, it's astonishing where we are at this point in this country's history where this kind of thing could even be possible. and good knows something's got to happen to stop it because fentanyl is one of the most frightening things that we've seen coming onto our shores. elizabeth: gerri, you stepped up when we needed you with technical difficulties. you did a good job. it's good to see you, my friend, i miss you, in this new kind of weird satellite show we're

doing. gerri willis, you're great. thank you so much for watching. we're so sorry for the technical difficulties. thanks for staying with us. we hope you have a good weekend. join us again monday night, we're going to have a lot of headlines to break down for anytime soon. that will do it here. charles payne next. ♪ >> welcome, everyone, to fox business's first virtual town hall of the new year. "the future of capitalism." i'm charles payne. this townhall, let's face it could not have come at a more crucial time. american style capitalism is being questioned and many wonder whether it can deliver on the american dream. no doubt throughout history the capitalism played a pivotal role encouraging the world, economic and other systems being