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cueto. more on president biden's first 100 days and this. president biden to stop the quote, uncivil war, lower the temperature, time for unity. here is the debate. can that be done given how d.c. bare knuckle politics has flit the country. given calls by democrats and tv hosts to punish, blacklist, censor, deprogram the 75 million who voted for trump. one cnn guest said all of america needs to be deprogrammed. as democrats in senate finance now talking about zicking irs on conservative non-profits and donors. we have the story. can washington and the media listen to americans. they keep saying we're scared. you're not listening to us. we're anxious. we're desperate. we're frustrated. our voices, our needs are not getting herd heard. you have to stop the political class turning our hometowns in mainstream america with their
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bad policies. we'll take on this new debate. president obama says there is time to move on. washington though wants to settle scores. nancy pelosi talking about a 9/11 style commission to look into alleged trump russia ties. james comey raises the specker to may still have a blackmail video of trump in moscow hotel room. we have the argument against all of that. excuse me, trump, donald trump now at the 11th hour, ordering declassification after mystery binder of government documents on the trump-russia probe. the new debate. what is in it? this new debate. at the border a game-changer. mexico and guatemala now standing up. mexico and guatemala saying enough is enough. stop it with border caravans. the two countries say caravans are violent. they're wrong. responsible and dangerous. mexico and guatemala say caravans violate their own border laws.
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here is the story? will washington listen? i'm liz beth mcdonald. this is "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. let's get right to edward lawrence on the ground in washington. good to see you, edward? reporter: good morning, good afternoon, good evening, lids. a flury of activity at the white house with president joe biden. he is signing 17 executive orders basically undoing a lot of what president trump had done here. among the executive orders, he will not build another foot of the border wall. he will rejoin the paris climate accords. he will rejoin the world health organization. he will mandate masks on federal property around federal buildings. biden offering a path of citizenship, eight years for 11 million so-called dreamers. a executive order to go back
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count those in this country illegally in the u.s. census. this message during the inauguration, unity. >> so today, at this time, in this place let's start afresh, all of us. let's begin to listen to one another again. hear one another. see one another. show respect to one another. politics doesn't have to be a raging fire. destroying everything in its path. every disagreement doesn't have to be a cause for total war. reporter: the key behind that would be actions behind the word that are there. they are mapping out a timeline for impeachment of president donald trump in there as they're trying to confirm the cabinet for president biden. now what democrats worry about is president trump coming back in 2024. now in his last speech, the 45th president, president trump, mr. trump said that it is not exactly over.
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listen. >> i wish the new administration great luck and great success. i think they will have great success. they have the foundation to do something really spectacular. so just a good-bye, we love you, we will be back in some form. [cheering] reporter: that is what the democrats are concerned about there. one more thing, vice president kamala harris has now sworn in her replacement in the u.s. senate as well as rafael warnock and jon ossoff. that means officially the senate is now 50-50. there is a swearing-in ceremony going on at the white house. that is for the staff there at the white house for president biden. back to you. elizabeth: edward lawrence great to see you. thanks for joining us. look who is back with us, the "washington examiner"'s fred barnes. fred, we love having you on. can you give us your thoughts today? >> i thought the speech was
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fine. it wasn't too long. certainly joe biden is for unity and unity is a good idea and he is very fortunate when there is so many things that republicans disagree with about his agenda, that the biggest issue which is the coronavirus, you know, covid-19, is one that there is unity on. unity was the subject of his speech. there is unity on that. it is the biggest issue in the country and i think biden probably has pretty much of a free hand on what he wants to do on that issue. he wants more people to wear masks among other things. and republicans will just have to go along. elizabeth: yeah. you know, so when you, when we talk about that, 1.9 trillion covid relief billion, heading towards the senate, in the past we don't know if it will pass on simple majority and budget
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reconciliation as they did the trump tax cuts. biden has 17 executive actions. puts him historically six, behind lbj and nixon. he could do more. will we see a federal mass vaccination push, everybody has to get a vaccination? what do you think? >> well, you know, trump's calling for 100 million new doses created of the vaccine and, he is going to want those to be used. i don't think you can force people to do that but, well, we'll see. look, it is as i said, i think he has a freer hand on this than any other issue facing him and, the public will be with him and republicans will not try to block any of these things. that is just the way it works. truthfully given how did you have vieded republicans and democrats are, biden is lucky to have one big issue he can handle
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pretty much on his own. elizabeth: it is about reopen, reopen, reopen. the country need to reopen with vaccines. the country needs job. we're in a pandemic downturn. historic 50-50 split pretty even in both the house and the senate. that's why probably going to move rapidly now to do even more executive orders to push the again today through. republicans though getting ready to push back on these items. anything that will hurt the oil boom, border security, stopping chinese telecoms from getting into our 5g networks. also tax hikes. you see killing keystone pipeline is in the 17 new executive actions. your reaction to that, fred? >> well, look, this is just what republicans did in the case of president obama who had had so many issues on which he pushed through executive action and
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republicans got rid of them. when they had majority to do that. and we're seeing this is, biden's retribution and, getting these things. look, it goes with the matter. if you really want something to be lasting, to be tough for the other party to throw out you need to get it through congress. then it become as law. an executive action makes things too easy and too easy to kill. elizabeth: yeah, if you do it, you know, that's right. what you're saying is, if you do it through executive actions which presidents have done in the past, it creates more tumult. it creates more overturn and divisiveness in d.c. >> yep. elizabeth: when it comes to the keystone pipeline, canada's justin trudeau, labor unions, don't kill the keystone pipeline, talking thousands of
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labor jobs. u.s. chamber of commerce is against stopping keystone, so are the teamsters. oil will be extracted without the line line. it will be exported to china whoever pulls it out. it feels like this will be a fight. u.s. has cut emissions you know with nat-gas. it is about growing the economy right now. fred, you're a historian too. you've got a keen eye for this. somebody said it looks like 1994 and 2009 again, those first term fights we're going to see, what do you say? final word? >> i think we will see them soon. i was amazed today to see the lead story on "the new york times" today, the day that joe biden was becoming, would be sworn in as president, that the immigration issue, the issue that divides republicans and democrats more than any other issue is, is being touted
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by the biden administration already. i mean we're going to have a huge fight over that. the, i'm surprised that biden would lead with that issue. it's, it's going to be trouble for them. marco rubio said, you know, when you are in favor of a blanket amnesty for people who are here unlawfully, we're going to block it. elizabeth: all right. fred barnes, thanks for your insights. thanks for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. elizabeth: you too. coming up, former deputy assistant fbi director danny coulson on this d.c. mystery. trump at the 11th hour ordering the declassification of a binder of government documents on the trump-russia probe. the new debate. what's in that binder? the story coming up.
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>> if we have seen everything yet. my sources tell me there is a whole tranche of docuements that are coming sunday night or monday, declassified documents, far more extensive than what lindsey graham and the judiciary committee released today. things that will absolutely speak to how much the fbi knew, how much the senior leadership knew, when did they know it and how did they abuse their positions of trust and power. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for type 2 diabetes. it's not insulin. and i only need to take it once a week. plus, it lowers the risk of cardiovascular events. trulicity isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you're allergic to it, you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away
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elizabeth: okay, look who is back with us, former deputy assistant director danny coulson. we love having you on the show. >> thank you. elizabeth: what do you think about this mystery binder with trump-russia probe documents that trump ordered declassified at the 11th hour? what are you hearing about it? >> i don't have a crystal ball. unfortunately i wish i did but what we've seen so far, liz is more of the same thing. more evidence that the fbi used a fake document to deceive the fisa court and get a warrant on somebody that should have never been surveyed. i don't know what is in the new stuff but i can pretty much guarranty it's a lot more dramatic than what we've seen come out today. there is all kinds of questions here. i keep thinking, where is durham? it is like where is waldo? where is durham? we don't need those leaks. let's see some evidence. write reports, or the american people a report and exonerate these people or prosecute them
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but this twisting in the wind stuff, that is too much. i did a iran-contra. we did a lot quicker. he owes a duty to the american people and also he owes a duty to the people being investigated and basically vilified in the media, maybe with good cause. elizabeth: why would, why is it taking so long to declassify this information? >> you know, i'm sure, there is a process, liz. i've been involved in that process and the intelligence communities, the fbi birx cia, nsa, they're all concerned about losing their sources and by giving up the information our adversaries seeing what the information is, it is called a mosaic. they can put that together and compromise sources and methods. that is why it takes a long time. frankly some people maybe are dragging their feet because they don't want it to get out. elizabeth: you know john solomon has been on this story. >> yes. elizabeth: he is reporting that hess sources say the mystery
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binder has details of interviews that the fbi did in the fall of 2017 with the anti-trump dossier author christopher steele. that christopher steele talks about potentially his political motives for leaking to the media the trump-russia collusion narrative during the 2016 election. let me back up. christopher steele had testified in a court in england that he was hired by the hillary clinton campaign and financed by democrats to dig up dirt on trump, to challenge the 2016 election if hillary lost. well it looks like that information was used to challenge the 2016 election because it ended up getting in a fisa court, in the fbi to do the trump russia prone. what do you say? the. >> my gosh, how terrible is that? first of all the fbi should be more sophisticated and not subcontract out their probable cause. that's not right. we didn't do it when i was there
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i don't know what happened that caused them to do it now but if in fact she did that, you know, durham needs to address that. but i blame the fbi for that. we're not supposed to be duped by people that are con men and we were. and we were duped not only duped but we used the information that he provided ultimately knowing it was false. we go, we get a fisa court, get a fisa court application and that's really troubling to me. the most sacred trust we have is our relationship with federal courts and state courts and to mislead them purposely. elizabeth: yeah. >> that is about as bad as i ever heard. elizabeth: here is what the fisa court apparently did not hear from the fbi top echelon doing, asking for fisa wiretaps on the trump campaign. that new york agent in, an agent in the fbi bureau said definitely, it was obvious that christopher steele's stuff was
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political. another source, fbi agent said he is totally untrustworthy. steele's russia source said zero corroboration. we can't corroborate anything he is telling you guys. and that is a russian source was not even in russia, inside the u.s. working for the brook kings institution. >> yes. elizabeth: james comey said this is salacious unverified material but you see it in the footnotes for the fisa court wiretap applications. how did that all of that happen? again you and i talked about this. fisa court wiretaps were meant to stop another 9/11. not supposed to be used in political opposition probes. >> yes. how did it happen? it is really simple. they took the legal counsel division of the fbi out of the process. every time i signed a fisa warrant my legal counsel division vetted it. they actually go through an interrogation process where they go back to the agent doing the
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affiant, how do you know this? what is the reliability of this individual? because when you go to the court you have to say i've got a source and you have to comment on his reliability f they didn't do that or at the lied to the court it is game on with regard to perjury, civil rights violation. when you take away somebody's fourth amendment right not to be surveiled with a fake document, that is a serious color of office issue and it has criminal penalties as signed to it. elizabeth: danny coulson, thanks for joining us. good to have your insight. >> always enjoy it. thanks very much. elizabeth: same here. good to have you on. just ahead, top rnc official harmeet dhillon on this new debate. president biden says it is time to, time to move on. time to move on but washington still wants to settle scores. nancy pelosi wants a new 9/11 style commission to look into alleged trump russia ties.
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hillary clinton agrees. james comey again raises the specter that russia may still have blackmail video of trump in a moscow hotel room. we have the arguments against all of that coming up next. >> it is not just that the fisa court was lied to. it is the whole "crossfire hurricane" investigation continued on much longer than it should have. everybody at doj and fbi knew by early 2017 that there was no there there. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (quiet piano music) ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme. the lincoln family of luxury suvs.
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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome rnc committee woman for california harmeet dhillon. great to have you back on. what are your thoughts about nancy pelosi wanting a new 9/11 style congressional commission to investigate trump russia ties and hillary clinton agrees with that? what do you think? >> that is directly contradictory, liz, to the speech our new president gave this morning regarding unity. he repeated the term several times. even invoked abraham lincoln yet the democrats on capitol hill are not looking to the events of the last few weeks or months but literally back to the previous election cycle and want to
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relitigate that. that election is over. this election is over. there is one simple reason. they want to telegraph to trump supporters and republicans if they don't stay in line if they don't change and move more to the left we can expect more of this type of demagoguery and punishment from the left. and that is what is being signaled here. that is why you're seeing a lot of republicans on capitol hill including republican leaders abandon the president, throw him and his supporters under the bus and make i think totally unnecessary remarks. the new evidence that has come to light as you mentioned in a previous segment regarding so-called russia collusion, it is really no different than what we already knew. we have more supposition and inwent dough and details. president did not collude with russia. we need to move on for the sake of our country and talk about the future. elizabeth: well you know, former fbi director james comey on a book tour? he is reportedly saying that he
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believes russia may have a blackmail video of trump in a moscow hotel room with prostitutes. that is what the steele dossier alleged. comey is basically on michael cohen's book, michael cohen testified that he doesn't think the tape exists. comey based on a senate intelligence report dismissive of the steele dossier. it talked about what was going on in moscow hotels. it couldn't conclusively say. what is going on here? >> could be cynical as disgraced former federal official james comey should not see the height of day selling books or any other public attention. he is trying to sell books. maintaining relevance. maybe angling for a new role in the bide en-harris administration. the facts have not changed. his credibility changed. he played a very central and bad role history will judge him harshly for in the whole attempt
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by a prior administration, the obama administration to investigate the new administration, the trump administration and that should never happen in america. i'm confident based on people i know in the trump administration that they aren't doing that to the new biden administration. we should not do that in our country. so he needs to go away. he sold enough books, made enough money. we should focus on the legitimate issues for the american people. there are serious issues facing this country regarding covid and -- may come from abroad. we need to fix that, fix what we can and disagree what we can't. russia stuff, irrelevant. i'm more concerned about china. i think there is serious questions there with the biden administration and his ties and his family. we need to be alert to current threats to our country. that is not what happened in the 2016 election. elizabeth: all right. we hear what you're saying. what people in america are talking about is accountability. senator ran paul has really tough words about james comey.
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we will finish out this segment with this sound bite, right. >> when we start taking advice from comey a notorious liar, a guy who ruined the fbi, a guy who used the enormous power of government to go after his political opponent, donald trump, when we start taking his advice we're taking the wrong advice. i don't plan on listening to anything from comey. in fact comey should be in prison for the things he did. elizabeth: in prison for the things he did. it's a brand new day in washington. there is also talk of accountability. where do you come down on that, harmeet, about prison? >> well look, i think that one of the failures of the trump administration is holding people accountable for the crimes they committed against our government, against our laws that includes people, senior people in the doj and the fbi. so you know, i blame doj leadership for that. there was never in my opinion a serious attempt to bring people to heal. four years later we're living with all the people being cnn
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commentators. mccabe is out there on cnn. all these people are running free, spewing their lies, nobody was held accountable that is bad lesson for america and american law enforcement. elizabeth: harmeet dhillon, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. good to see you. >> my pleasure. elizabeth: okay. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. up next, fox news contributor deneen borelli on president bidennen today saying lower the temperature, stop the uncivil war, time for healing time for peace, time for unity. how does that square with washington's bare knuckles politics that has split the country? with growing calls by democrats and tv hosts to punish, blacklist, censor, even quote, deprogram the voters, 75 million strong who voted for trump. one cnn guest says all of america needs to be deprogrammed. that sorry next.
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♪. elizabeth: back with me now, fox news contributor deneen borelli. deneen, always great to have you on. it is good to see you. president bidennen says, you know what? lower the temperature, stop the uncivil war but we got democrats and tv hosts talking about punishing, blacklisting, censoring, even deprogramming the 75 million that voted for trump. one cnn guest said all of america needs to be deprogrammed. now we got john brennan, former cia director saying the intelligence community will go after, quote, libertarians who may have been involved in the capitol riots. lib tear cans -- libertarians. why libertarians? take this on deneen. >> those are words from joe biden, liz, he should have condemned everything you just mentioned at the start of this segment at the top of this show but when you think about what's
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going on, you have democrats and the liberal media they despise conservatives. they despise conservative speech. they want to control everything, liz. and what they, what is going on with our country, liz, in terms of conservative speech, they want to shut you down. they also want to punish you. i've been doing this a number of years, public policy, radio and tv. i can't even say some of the vial things that are sent to me in email, on social media, because i have a difference of opinion. and what they want to do is make an example of people so that no one speaks their mind, no one honestly speaks their mind, to make people afraid, to intimidate people. elizabeth: okay. we're so sorry you've been going through that and enduring that deneen. that's horrible. let's, clarify this what's going
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on. the capitol siege, the capitol riots were wrong, roundly condemned by senator mitch mcconnell, william barr, lindsey graham, republicans saying that was wrong. vice president pence said, completely wrong. shouldn't have done it. you also have on the internet conspiracy theories that are poisonous from both sides of the aisle. internet, social media companies are saying, being told, stop that, turn off the poison. but then you have trump voters who didn't agree with any of that. they liked trump's policies. and then you have d.c. bare knuckle politics that create division and bleed into the media, bleed into the country. let's listen to hillary clinton call trump supporters a quote, cult. watch this. >> we now know that, not just him but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members have the same disregard for democracy.
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elizabeth: who are the enablers, accomplices, cult members? so do you see the broad, sweeping generalizations here? people are frustrated with this, deneen, this kind of language. your thoughts? >> i totally agree. first of all i would like to know what happened to the thousands and thousands of emails hillary clinton supposedly doesn't know what happened to them but the rhetoric that is going on, the nonsense that is demonizing individuals who have a difference of opinion, namely conservatives, they're trying to make an example out of all of us, liz and i discuss find the rhetoric and nonsense unbelievable. they want to target you. they want to punish you. don't forget, ocasio-cortez called for a list of so-called trump sycophants because they don't want people who worked for president trump to get a job, anywhere. someone tweeted media today, go ahead.
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elizabeth: finish your thought. somebody tweeted what? >> just going to say, someone attacked kayleigh mcenany, hope she enjoys her job as a waitress. these are the mind-set of people. they're downright evil. elizabeth: that is rude. senate finance, democrat sheldon whitehouse talking about getting the irs to go after charlie kirk's group, turning point usa, for having two events down in florida, for potentially spreading covid. that is not the irs's job to look after non-profits because they had an event for spreading covid. that is not what the irs is so. so you know, we've seen democrats say, giving money to comb comb's nomination. amy comey barrett. we got an open letter signed by more than 200 authors, professors, don't do book deals
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to anybody in the. media not creating what they like to say is a safe space to hear both side. 75 million people upset about shutdowns. riots turning main street media into a ghost town. let's hear what they're talking about unity here. let's listen to the media. >> i think the challenges that the rot is from the grassroots all the way to the presidency, to the rot, is at every layer. >> there are millions of americans, almost all white, almost all republicans who somehow need to be deprogrammed. >> the bottom line is all of america needs deprogramming because we've all been negatively influenced by donald trump. >> i covered wars abroad. i've seen ugly things that this county now resembles. i've never seen this country more in doubt about safety at home than right now. the enemy is us. >> they can't even open their
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mouths about unity. shut up about unity. >> twitter and facebook are not banning you because you're conservative. they're banning you because you suck. they're banning you because you say evil [bleep] elizabeth: okay. i want to revisit again. the capitol riots were wrong. republicans condemned it. internet conspiracies are wrong. people condemned that. they talk about, people talking about we got to listen to both sides, right? so this is, president bidennen talking about unity and about peace. how can you have unity and peace when you hear that kind of rhetoric, deneen. your thoughts? >> you can't. the liberal media is part of the problem, liz. that is one of the reasons why our country is so divided. their propaganda on a regular basis versus what they're trying to do with conservative networks, take them off of the service provider platforms. they want to control the narrative and they want to spew
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their propaganda without being challenged. elizabeth: i, we're sitting, we're sitting right in the middle looking at both sides at "the evening edit." we're seeing trump voters don't support what these guys are slamming them for. that is what we're going to stay on the story. deneen, we appreciate you coming on the show. good to see you. coming up national border patrol council vice president, art del cueto. a new trend is spotted at the border. of the mexico and guatemala standing up. mexico and guatemala saying enough is enough. stop it with the border caravans. don't do anymore border caravans. these countries are saying caravans are violent, they're wrong, they're irresponsible and dangerous. these caravans violate mexico and guatemala's own border laws. here is the story. will washington listen? this story next. >> thousands of people broke into guatemala yesterday from honduras. they will try to do the same thing at the mexican border.
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united states, you know, concentrates on border security, everyone's quick to throw the racism against us but here you have, you know, countries in latin america that are trying to defend their borders and that is what it comes down to. i always said it anytime. illegal is not a race. defending our nation's borders is something very important for every country to do. elizabeth: now, these two countries are saying yeah, we'll defend our borders. mexico, art, is saying we will send more troops to the border to protect our border. we have the foreign affairs secretary of guatemala charging that honduras security forces actually accompanied the honduran caravan towards the borders. that really angered guatemala because they got violent and quote violated guatemala's territorial sovereignty. guatemala is very angry about this and so is mexico. >> liz, they should be.
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i have friends in mexico that i speak to often, people from honduras come to their cities. they can't find work. they're panhandling in different parts of the cities. people in mexico, they're afraid, violence has gone up in those areas. a lot of it is because people come through their country. they can't go along in their country to come to the u.s. they stay in these cities. at the end of the day, they run out of money, they run out of supplies. so they turn to a life of crime unfortunately. they start breaking into people's homes. they start stealing. i'm not saying every song gel one of -- single one of them are bad but they're breaking immigration laws and it's a big deal. >> there is something going wrong with the government of onduras what it is doing wrong not employing its own people and taking care of them.
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elizabeth: let's welcome back national border patrol council president art del cueto. great to have you back on. guatemala's government has made it clear it will stop the caravan, any caravans for immigration and health reasons, due to covid-19. can you talk about that? >> that's another big issue. for the longest time we have had to deal with caravans coming into the united states. a lot of these caravans, you know, some of these people, they carry communicable diseases. now you have to factor in covid because it's a huge deal. and you know, you have individuals coming through the border. they don't have good hygiene as they're coming through the different countries. they're carrying limited amount of supplies. that is another big issue we need to focus on when you have these people entering, not just mexico but obviously the united states. but going through guatemala, now you have people from guatemala and from mexico are also trying to enter illegally into the country. so it just creates a domino
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effect that at the end of the day is very deadly, that we've seen. and it is you know, a big deal to the american public and just worldwide. elizabeth: guatemala and mexico is warning that there are violent members inside of these caravans who have been recruited by human smugglers, drug traffickers and gangs like ms-13. there is that issue. guatemala foreign affairs secretary also told reporters, art, among the thousands of those, who are crossing the borders, they are carrying fake covid-19 test results indicating they are negative when they're not. they're sending dozens back. now, this is humanitarian crisis. the issue is how do you fix it? guatemala and mexico saying this has got to stop. now fake test results for covid, catching people positive inside of the caravans who need treatment. your thoughts? >> liz, we've seen through our
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many years individuals that enter different countries illegally, they carry fake immigration papers. so them now resorting to fake covid testing in order to have that extra leeway to get through is not a surprise. we have come forward, many steps, in our immigration process right now to secure the american public. right now is not the time to take any steps back and i am very happy that we have other countries in between the united states and others that are entering illegally now that are taking it very serious. it should have been taken serious from the start but, you know, i'm happy to see people taking it serious. our nation's borders as well as any country's nation's borders should always be protected. they should always try to protect their own citizens. elizabeth: critics are saying this might be a difficult idea to wrap people's minds around but this is a humanitarian crisis for people to travel this
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way because it is so dangerous to try to do it. it, we're seeing heart-breaking report the coming in. you get in a caravan you lose contact with your family, your wife, husband, children. you may not see them. you understand we understand trying to escape poverty, gang and drug violence this is so dangerous to do it this way. art, over the last two or three fiscal years, talking again more than 1000 remains of human beings at the border but they failed, clearly in trying to cross and they passed away. this, again and again, it feels like this is an underreported part of the story that is so dangerous to do this. what do you think, art? >> there is, liz, it is definitely underreported. i am going to tell you right now, i am 100% for legal immigration into this country. the problem is when you add this criminal element and start seeing people enter countries illegally, there is a bunch of
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people that will take advantage of within the criminal element. people smuggling humans and at the same team individual like the drug cartels that are bringing drugs into our country. all those people are, take advantage of them. they do it so they can bring their product across. at times, they bring illegal aliens through into the united states. they rush them through one area. they make sure they bring their drugs in another spot. they try to take care of our agents, taking care of humanitarian effort. it's a serious problem. hat's off to central america for helping. elizabeth: yeah. stop the abuse of the border. europe has border security. canada has border security. countries in asia have border security. you know, final word is this, that is it is not just central americans. it is people coming in from pakistan, from china, from africa, parts of asia as well. final word, art. you have 10 seconds? >> bottom line, illegal is not a race and people need to understand that.
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everybody deserves to be safe in their homes and there is no difference with our nation's borders. elizabeth: art del cueto, you've been great. thanks for joining us. thank you for watching. i'm elizabeth macdonald. you've been watching "the evening edit" on fox business. have a good evening. lou: good evening, everybody. after four years of the greatest single term in american history, president trump today left the white house, and he spoke to the american people one last time as president of the united states. >> what we've done has been amazing by any standard. we rebuilt the united states military -- [cheers and applause] we created a new force called space force. that in itself would be a major achievement for a regular administrationment we were not a regular administration.

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