we have the very best team in all of cable news and i'm proud to work with them every day. i am so lucky to have amazing friends and fans of the show who voice their support every night. thank you, i love you. follow me on twitter and everything. love you, bye. elizabeth: tonight's new setback of biden administration, a federal judge in texas blocked freeze the deportration. is impeachment derailing already? it is exploding on launchpad, even president biden predicting a senate conviction will not happen am only 5 g.o.p. senators say it is constitutional to do prime minister -- prime ministe. and dc and media double standards now pulled to the light of day. on show, fred barnes, david web, ford o'connel.

and congressman brian babbin on the headline. we have more on the plays of the impeachment trial, more on the government buying 200 million more doses of coronavirus vaccine. a push to get america vaccinated by the end of the summer. and too little too late, democrat politicians in oregon and washington, saying, no to riots, saying stop it after months of devastating damage. when they did hardly anything to stop it, it is so bad, portland mayor had to pepper spray a man who was harassing him. >> and nigel farage, saying democrats and biden you are in denial. more on censorship. the media bubble is blind to its

open top spin. journalists celebrate the destruction of freedoms. and top democrat eric swalwell still misleading over his entanglement over an relationship with a spy. >> and why did governor newsom do a 180 to reopen california. we have a recall effort there gaining speed. major silicon valley and tech donors' him out,. >> more states reopening, studies show lockdowns don't stop the surge, but they do destroy small businesses. >> more on the border wall. construction on it stops tomorrow. we have fight over that. major problem with border security, only just winning. i am elizabeth macdonald.

the "evening edit" starts right now. lou: back. jim: back with us now. he is fred barnes, fred, impeachment is derailing, even president biden said it is not going to happen. >> i think that impeachment will go on there will be a trial, democrats will say how terrible trump was as president. even though oddly enough in the paper they had to file, to get the trial going it referred to not former president, donald trump, but president donald trump. they seem to forget he had opinion removed from office, the trial will go on. and president biden and others recognize that there are not 17 republicans who will vote against him, he will not be convicted. elizabeth: supreme court chief,

is not providing -- presiding, that is why senator leahy is presiding, we got word that he has senator leahy has been taken to the hospital, it is unclear what is going on with senator leahy. we have a person who was against trump. presiding over trial for trump. >> that does not bother me. i don't think it will have much of an impact. the senator is one who does not like trump, but that would be true of any democrat, i think that trial will go on. it will be fine. then we'll get to the acquittal. look, the answers -- we know what the answer is, but the question will still be asked for a couple of weeks. elizabeth: we have legal pros come on.

saying trump's actions were impeachable. and trump underred his supporter -- urged his supporters to riot on january 6, where do you come town on that. >> i don't think there was impeachable, some of these people who broke into the capitol, back on january 6, had been planning to do it for a while. when opportunity came on january 6, they seized it. i don't think that trump inspired them to do it he set out a -- sent out a message on december 23, he said, come to washington on january 6, it can be really wild. it turned out to be wild but that is not up incitement. trump will wind up where he did

after his first trial, it will be decided on political grounds, republicans, as i said, you have to have 17 or more to have a conviction. and republicans are not where near that. elizabeth: a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction could quickly end the trial, argument is, it is not constitutional. capitol police, said they should have been more prepared for the attack given the intelligence they received on january 4. there that to be dealt with. let's watch senator john kennedy about how this is unconstitutional. >> i know common sense is illegal. in washington d.c. but i think a fair mined rational person, would ask congress to vote to file a declarer to judgment action to

ask the supreme court to rule on the constitutionality of impeaching a president who is not president before we put the country through this. elizabeth: you know, terrible that 5 people are dead. with what happened. but his take is a constitutional point, your reaction? >> i think there is a constitutional point. i think senator kennedy is right. when they have to identify donald trump in the indictment, as someone he is not, he is not president, and talk about the need to remove him. when he has already left. and is no longer in the white house. there is something that wrong with it. and it is unconstitutional and a lot of republicans will vote that this charge against trump is unconstitutional. and see what mitch mcconnell does, i'll be interested, i bit me winds up there too. elizabeth: it will be

interesting to see the vote, that is key. democrat, and mead cite the case. but senators acquitted him in part because, a trial after resignation was unconstitutional. by the way, if you have trump, he will say, i was not allowed to be in the house, he had no hearings no witnesses, you can bet he will put on a show for that trial. >> and i don't know that will help him. trump will not accept something that the republicans like mitch mcconnell and everyone else in washington, i think accepts, that is this is not the trump of a few months ago, he lost the election. he has tried to -- have the election over turned. then the events of january 6. he has been stained pretty

badly, that is why i think they are going ahead with the trial, then the vote, and trump will not be found guilty, but when you go this far, it something they a lot of people think you have done something wrong. he has. elizabeth: let's turn to this biden agenda. question is, will start to derail, senate democrats fail to get rid of the filibuster, the big ticket items may hit a wall, they can't do climate change on a stand alone or budget reconciliation, it takes 60 votes to pass a filibuster. >> you touched on most important factor over next two years in congress, that is republicans now have two democratic senators who have said, they will not try to get rid of the filibuster, it will last. it means that mitch mcconnell is with all these conservatives

complaining about him, has won up with his -- won wound up with his party in senate where he wanted them to be, they are in good shape, and biden agenda will take some bad hits. >> hit a wall. '' we're hearing what the strategy is out of the republicans in senate, does not look good for the biden agenda. talk about this. we have now the keystone pipeline. the general manager of the keystone pipeline on tape announcing hundreds of workers have been laid off because of president's executive orders stopping the keystone pipeline. >> right now the numbers of jobs are thousands of jobs, there is precision pipeline, and. the actions that happened, we're doing station work, there are hundreds of guys that got late

off. with that tuesday. elizabeth: critics say, how is that unity? you know, you are union and other workers to the unemployment line. more than 11 million americans already unemployed because of covid pandemic, how is that unity? >> look, it is not own unity. who is to blame. i don't think it is president biden who said all along, back to campaign he was against the keystone pipeline, if elected he would get rid of it the union that the pipe fitters and others are a part of, endorsed him anyway. giving him the right do that without the union complaining. that is where it is, 10,000 workers laugh their jobs. -- lost their jobs and biden is happen because the pipeline has

been scratched. and the union has a lot to explain. elizabeth: all right fred thank you. >> thank you. elizabeth: next up fox news contributor david webb. too little too late, democrat in oregon and washington say now you are done with the riots. >> and media, stop sanitizing and white washing left wimg wing violence. the story next. >> these people are down right dangerous, they need to be held accountable, what is going on with the local government officials who are allowing this simmering as long as it has for people to be in streets causing diagram, fires -- damage, fire,

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thanks. elizabeth: let's welcome david webb. now we have democrat politics in oregon and washington after months of damaging riots, say they will stop antifa and radical rioters, what is going

on here? what took them so long. >> well, politics ask treatment in part with what -- politics and agreement in part of what was happening with occupy zones. the question is how. this is the question that has to be answered. local law enforcement be allowed to do their job? will they be allowed to go out and arrest, and if arrested and charged will prosecutor the not drop the charm charges against the rioters who have been destroying lives and livelihoods in many american cities. we have a problem to deal with from a legal perspective for this organization, while there are prohibitions again declaring them a terrorist organization. to where we are now, supporting left and tearing down culture.

elizabeth: we have the biden administration saying we'll investigate domestic extremism. but will they look into who is funding antifa. estimated 30 people dead in these riots, 2000 cops injuries, and where are democrat demand now to defund the police? there is overwhelming silent on defund police now. that is fading away, antifa is now switches to rioting against immigration. >> here we can make a distinction, defund police was more of leftist antifa picked up on that, that came out of black lives matter. 3 of their leaders are trained marxists. they admitted that. to the antifa versus trump, trump of the target, but more about america. trump is gone.

the riots should have ended but they did not. so with the fascist, they go over next target, that is biden, the true target is america, and foolish democrats for some reason, with tacit approval, they think that anty offal antil support them. elizabeth: they attack democrat headquarters in portland, they smashed it, and vandalized windows, let's less -- nigel farage. >> most tellingly, of the banner in oregon. have a look at it. it says, we don't' biden. we want revenge. he better get out of denial, and

recognize it is wrong on both sides of this, but the storming of the capitol is one, very bad example compared toed do ens coe been committed. joe biden better condemn violence, thuggery, vandalism from whichever side of the divide it comes, if america comes together it has to have an even-handed president, not one that condemns one group but refuses to face up to facts there is a dangerous organization called antifa. elizabeth: you then on the ground, local das doing cash and release for vie on the -- catch and release, your word mr. webb. >> only thing i will correct

nigel iso is numbers, we have over 2000 police officers injured. people unfortunately who died from the riots, and you look at billions of dollars of damage. there you have joe biden, a corrupt acrat who has done nothing about antifa.com, which went to his campaign web site, now goes to official web site of our national capital of the white house, that tells you that biden will use what -- whatever is necessary to get where he wants to go, and christopher wray said that antifa is an ideology, not an organization, know ideology did not burn buildings and attack federal property. elizabeth: okay. all right, david webb thank you. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up republican strategist ford o'connel on woke

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elizabeth: okay welcome back to show ford o'connel, straight epn out debate, critics say conservatives are still letting their voices be heard. it is about conspiracy theories. what do you say? >> well i think, i am always of mind set the more speech the better for this country, this country was founded on first amendment. when you cancel out one side of the debate, we'll note have a na healthy debate or a strong country. elizabeth: i'm going to ask my team, show viewers who people in media are saying about suppressing speech. this is an issue that judges have taken on.

supreme court has, and even if violence speech, supreme court said, you can't censor it, cure to speech is more speech. the cure to speech you don't like is more speech, we have cnn, msnbc. so many people talking about needs to deprogram conservatives, what is that about? >> i don't think that you should be suppressing speech, that is the real power of big tech. and corporate media. but you have to recognize here is we're really in a post journalism era, you have outlets and big tech who' to tell people what they want to hear rather than informing them, and they decided they will become a shadow government, in time being. they will push their agenda. elizabeth: okay, we have california. and states suppressing, censoring data for which they are basis their lockdowns and

restriction. we had media going on for years about russia, russia, no accountability, no correction of what they pushed with russia collusion narrative and how it fell apart, we had media bubble talking about riots peaceful. 30 people were killed in the riots, when you see that, you put it together, there is both sides of the story that general public is is not seeing ford, when they watch general media. your thoughts. >> i think you are right. that is the is up pris of speech -- suppression of speech have to realize you have to have a healthy debate. you have a lot of people that only thing there is one side, it is a brain washing period over time. elizabeth: let's watch glen

greenwall talk about what you just point out. >> you can't over state how blood theft thirsty they are, they have convinced one another through this echo chamber they created, if you disagree with their orthodoxy and their consensus, you are a threat and a danger, they spent 4 years claim they are fighting fascism and authoritarian. they are doing it now. it is they embody. elizabeth: ford? >> i think greenwall hit a home run, he is right about what is taking place. overtime it is well going to

destroy to experiment calls america. a lot like what is happening in public schools, they are brain washing public in believing there is one side over story, and journalists there are more than two sides to everything. elizabeth: okay ford thank you. great to have you on. thank you. >> thank you. elizabeth: up next former top george w. bush official, brad blakeman with us,. >> and swalwell dodges and misleading about controversy of his entanglement with an alleged chinese spy, he is an impeachment manager. >>er swalwell investment seems to paid off, he has as a congressman never spoke out against the chinese i

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elizabeth: with me now former deputy assistance to george w. bush, brad blakeman. maybe you can solve this mystery. how is democrat eric swalwell, accused of being entangled with a chinese spy, allowed to still sit on house intelligence, be an impeachment manager, still go on cnn dodging questions about it refusing to answer questions and spill out what his relationship was with this chinese spy who targeted him 10 years ago. >> it is allowed because nancy pelosi is his prediction or. -- protect or. and media is a protecter of eric swalwell, he reminds me of the

kid to cry wolf, to stain a president. to hopefully remove a president, that did not happen. now he comes to find out he perhaps, in a grand diversion did this as part of an effort to protect his open scandal, that is a relationship with an alleged chinese spy that lasted for years. elizabeth: he is basically targeted by the alleged chinese spy 10 years ago. and then she became put an intern in his office, he is not answering any questions about. he said fbi signed off. i am in the clear. >> can you clarify how much contact you had with this chinese national. >> jake, this is a 2015 meeting

about a person i had as a volunteer in 2012 on campaign. fbi has said i did not wrong, don't take it from me, there was no wrong doing, i learned nothing new, and speaker pelosi is keeping me on the committee, and republicans were briefed on this conduct, that this individual was trying to do with me and many other members of congress in 2015, i think this is retaliation more than anything. elizabeth: two things. wrong. fbi never put out a statement saying he never did any wrong, they said, eric, you are near a chinese spy. and republicans, they keep tells us, we were not told, if we knew about it we would have fought it. >> he is lying. republicans said they were never given that information and not

true about what he said about the fbi, something is not right with eric's story, he gets defensive when he talks about himself but he goes on offense when he talks about russia and collusion, that we know is a hoax, we'll see how independent the biden justice department is by whether or not they look into these matters or do anything about it. >> i want to move on. we had a lot of media hysteria over russia. >> impeachment. >> impeachable. >> impeachment. >> a dizzying 24 hours in russia investigation. >> russia. >> russia, russia, russians. >> russia.

>> stormy daniels. stormy daniels. adult film star. is there a difference 'president said -- [bleep] house. >> donald trump turned oval office to a [bleep] elizabeth: we covered a lot of ground, your reaction? >> it didn't work. this of a means to an end to remove donald trump. this was a coop if you will. manufactured evidence that never turned out to be true, democrat came out including swalwell, and others who said, they have seen evidence which never materialized. at the trial. of the president or at the entitlement or impeachment. this was unconstitutional, yet they have no ramifications for their unconstitutional redaveior, -- behavior, and

again, donald trump has left office, and this vin -- vindictive what i consider to be unconstitutional impeachment. elizabeth: james comey and james clapper, lisa page, petter strzok indicate there was no case, thank you, brad break man. >> my pleasure. elizabeth: coming up west virginia governor, jim justice back with us. how governors like gavin newsom did a 180, reopening, using secret data that no one else can see to do lockdowns and restrictions. there is a big recall push to get him out of office, and more

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elizabeth: let's welcome back to show west virginia republican governor jim justice, governor great to have you back on. what are states basing their draconian shut downs on, we have california governor, suddenly doing a 180, reopening the state. but it is based on secret data, he still refuses to fully release. what going on? can you hear me?

we're having technical difficulties, we're boot it up. it he still -- is he still with us? okay, we know -- we're going to move owe'll come back to the governor. we have this story. texas republican congressman brian babbin is with us, your reaction to federal judge in texas locking freeze on deportation for 100 days. what do you say to that? >> i say you know, turnabout is fair play. you know the courts were being used again president trump and his policies, we'll do the same thing. and you know one of the great things that legacy that president trump will leave behind, are numbers, hundreds of judges who have been appoint and confirmed by his administration, that includes you know three supreme court justices.

and so, i think that this judge, ruled rightly. this is going to damage texas, i appreciate our attorney general here in texas for you know filing this suit. and i think that judge is right oi hope -- right on, and i am hoping it does not come to pass, the freeze, because it will hurt texas. elizabeth: you know, here is the thing, 9 in 10 illegal aliens would have been deported, criminal illegals, they were charged with crimes. what the biden move would have done was kept them here, they had not been convicted of a crime, this is -- listen to former top border tomorrow mark morgan break it down. >> some of those in the category are convicted felons, some are being charged. they have not been convicted, that is a clear distinction.

the memo goes to those who are convicted, you could be charged with murder or molesting a child or rape, and this memo said i.c.e. could not deport you, just those who have already been convicted. every american citizen is now in more danger because of that memo and this administration. and that is a fact. elizabeth: congressman your reaction to this? >> well, that is a fact. and again, read call -- radical left. democratic party, putting safety and security of american citizens last on their list, again, over and over, we know i.c.e. agents were ord order to stop departing. and plus, release all of the illegal aliens in their custody, what we just heard, they have a memo coming to i.c.e. agency,

saying release them all immediately, and there are over 14,000 illegal aliens in i.c.e.'s custody, 71% of which are convicted trials or have pending charges, they will have to release up to 10,000 criminal aliens, not aliens that simply broke the law by coming here illegally, they have robbed, raped, murders and et cetera. if radical left gets their way, america will be gain like we a under obama a borderless sanctuary nation. elizabeth: texas fought this. texas got brought action that is where federal judge in texas moved. do you hear other border states will follow texas? >> we're hoping so. and certainly some of these states have to be really

worried, i would think that arizona without -- would follow suit, president biden has ceased the construction of the border wall, saying they are immoral and ineffective, that is an illegality what he is trying to do, he might be able to repurpose some of the dot money, but money and funds that were for that specific purpose, i think president biden will have a hard time getting away with that. once again, you know he is putting 5,000 people out of work. elizabeth: okay. >> by doing this, we're hoping that will go the other way as well. elizabeth: all right congressman good to see you, thank you. >> great to see. >> back to west virginia governor. >> good to see you. >> jim justice will join us

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elizabeth: okay, he is back with us, west virginia republican governor jim justice. here is the question, what are states basis their draconian shut down and restriction on,

california governor did a 180, reopening state on secret data, that he refuses to fully release. what are they basing it on? >> liz, i got that to thank everyone at fox for getting us through this technical difficulty, this is tough stuff. that is all there is to it. when there is no play book, all fairness to everyone, it becomes tough. but in so many situations, you hate to say it, almost like a pin the tail on the donkey deal. to where people are just shooting in the dark, and hoping for the very best. but idea, the temptation for us in west virginia was unprov unpe officer. -- unbelievable when it was

tough, tough, to shut everyone down, we did that in the beginning but we just kept listening to experts, we could not pin down anywhere directly it was coming from. so just to go just shut stuff down, from stand point of looking good. it was the wrong thing to do, we didn't do it and west virginia, we kept moving in the right direction. elizabeth: we hear that. florida, south carolina, south dakota georgia, went the same route. and this is a virus will go where it goes. no matter if you do a lockdown or not. so the thing with governor newsom, we the data like how many beds are used in the hospital, and icu, we understand that data. we understand that play book is tough, you have to make tough

decisions, but now he faces a recall. it say push call rescue california. you know, when you see how it played out. you see the studies like for out of stanford saying lockdowns do not work in europe, they are not going to work in many countries, when you see this after the fact what are your thoughts? >> well, i of the think that. that, you know the decisions have been tough. you know, thank god for the most part many states in this country have pushed the right buttons. you know. we all respect and think of all greatness that california is and does. but, if you step back from it and look at vaccine roll out or the now the situation with recall or all stuff, stay at home, now we will do a witness g

you can go out and eat but only outside. that is just -- so many things that are just you know, run one direction and the other direction. in this situation, you have to to listen to all of the health community and the scientists and everyone around you. i mean, we -- you are right on one them, that is how i saw it. this was coming at us from every direction under the sun. we could not pinpoint where this was coming from. just pulling a plug and shutting stuff down, there is a consequence with that, a really consequence, and so. with that, we didn't do that. the temptation was unbelievable. elizabeth: what point did you say, we'll stay open and why? >> because i listened to the experts and i listened to all science, and really and truly,

this was a situation where you were at war, you had battle fronts around you, and absolutely you be not economy not pinpoint -- you could not pinpoint one thing and say shut down all bars and restaurants and this and, that we dug in. and we started to research, and go back and looking at our bars, we could not find one case that absolutely, we could pinpoint to a bar, so, there is -- so many things that were factors, but the bottom line, and i am surrounded by a bunch of smart people that made me look better than i am every day, i am proud of them. elizabeth: governor, you did great on this show. as you have in the past. next time we want to see your bulldog baby doll come back on. >> you get baby dog any time you want her. elizabeth: okay, i understand

baby dog has a rap song to. >> she does. elizabeth: thank you, i am elizabeth macdonald, you have been watching evening edit on fox business, join us tomorrow night. at the same time tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. elections have consequences as former president barack obama once reminded us. and his vice president is now leading this nation. and in less than a week in office, president biden is only further dividing the nation even as he calls for unity, endorsing the radical dems' continued persecution of his predecessor, donald trump, who is now a private citizen, after all. and president biden approving the sham impeachment process launched by speaker pelosi and se