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jindal. hans spakovsky, charles vitello, charles hurt, and angle husband sam via. we have the biden administration doing away with and killing fossil fuel jobs in the middle of the pandemic, when the oil boom stopped the u.s. from plunging into deeper recessions from the prior decades from the last one before. this as john kerry today says the biden administration will wipe out those jobs but claims those workers can get green jobs immediately and make solar panels instead, even if john kerry admits the u.s. could, quote, go to zero tomorrow in emissions and not solve climate change, quote, because 90% of global emissions comes from outside of the u.s. also this story, the biden administration continues to dodge questions on left-wing violence and rioting even though the fbi director

already testified to congress that the fbi is targeting left-wing rioters in multiple probes. this as homeland security issues a new warning on domestic extremism. we'll break that down. plus a profoundly moving human interest story. families impacted by washington's border policies. tonight an angle husband whose life was changed forever, shattered after criminal illegal alien took the life of his wife. more absurd lockdown policies surfacing among the 50 states as lockdowns continue to drag on. we'll show you the latest examples. it may make your head spin. more proof that lockdowns just don't work. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, the "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: thanks for joining us. you're watching the fox business network. okay, the national guard, they're going to be deployed in

washington. it is extended now through the end of march. homeland security issued a new snags terrorism alert warning domestic extremists could attack in the coming weeks. joining me, governor bobby jindal, governor of louisiana, and former 2016 presidential candidate. homeland security says they don't have any information to indicate a specific credible plot. can you take this on first? >> sure, liz, we obviously need to defend our country and homeland security, law enforcement officials do a great job. we don't want to see law enforcement politicized. what i worry about under the left under the biden administration, treating criminals and potential threats against our country differently based on their political affiliation. we need to take all threats against our country seriously. no tolerance for those want to do harm for our police or destroy property. doesn't matter antifa or some other group we need to condemn them all.

we need to take them seriously but we need to condemn the splittization of law enforcement on the left. elizabeth: critics are saying why is the white house avoiding questions it will consider antifa as domestic terrorists when fbi director christopher wray testified in congress that antifa is the real thing and fbi has multiple domestic terrorism probes targeting those who self-identify as antifa. roll tape. watch this. [shouting] >> antifa is a real thing. it is not a group or an organization. it's a movement or an ideology, maybe one way of thinking of it a and we have quite a number, i said this consistently since my first time appearing before this committee, we have any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchists extremists and some

of those individuals self-identify with, with antifa. >> i think you and i talked about this yesterday an conveyed all violence happening around the country will be reviewed as part of the tasking that was done by that national security team i don't have anything to preview on it. elizabeth: okay. the issue is when will the white house include antifa as part of the new probe of fbi probe into extremism? >> liz, look i think with we're seeing biden was too weak to stand up to the radical left. that is how he won the democratic primary. he was too weak then, too weak now. maybe it is progress last year the democrats, the left were condemning police and promoting standing up for rioters. at least this year they're condemning rioters in d.c. and standing up for the police. that is a little bit of progress but they need to be more consistent. we said all along joe biden was not strong enough to stand up to the radical elements of their

property. democrats like to talk about justice. it is not justice. it is not fair to treat criminals, treat rioters, treat anarchists differently based on political affiliations. when there are blm protests race riot the left loves them. that is just wrong. elizabeth: yeah. you know people who saw, minorities who saw their businesses destroyed and their community destroyed. again and again, we've been talking about this for months. when is d.c. going to wake up and answer the wakeup call ringing off the hook for months on end, governor? because here is the other practical issue. elected officials have to talk about shutting down all mob violence because christopher wray, fbi director testified that our foreign adversaries like china and russia are trying to piggyback on this chaos to bring down the country. your thoughts? >> well, liz, one of the best things that president trump did he highlighted the threat of china. i think china senses weakness in the white house.

look what they're doing. they sanctioned former secretary of state pompeo. they're sanctioning some of our u.s. senators. they're willing to speak up against unfair chinese trade practices on human rights abuses. china is now threatening to send out their forces in international waters. their planes are threatening taiwan airspace. i think they're probing. they don't expect a firm response from the biden white house. they're sensing weakness and probing to see what they can get away with. we need to stand up on a bipartisan basis. president trump didn't start the fight with china. china engaged in fight. he woke up america so it wasn't a one-sided fight. we need to push back on economic front an diplomatic front. i believe they're probing with our weaknesses. see it in taiwan and economic activity and see it on the foreign front as well. >> we're seeing antifa's definition what it will oppose

becoming increasingly elastic. it will riot against immigration, not police. we saw them go after an i.c.e. facility and taking down courthouses. they protested and rioted against joe biden winning the election. so again and again you know, it's time, when is the administration going to stand up and shut this down? >> well, look, liz, they were out there shouting at that protest against i.c.e., they were yelling no nations, no borders. this is ridiculous beliefs, ridiculous slogans. i think the democratic party has a real problem. they are afraid to stand up. they supported groups that hate law enforcement. they want to defund the police, they want to abolish i.c.e. there are a lot of every day americans living in the real world including democratic voters that like law enforcement that worry when they see the property being burned. leading democrats liberal voices telling rioters, arsonists that wasn't violence. you heard them that when they destroyed property that wasn't violence. tell that to the business owner.

tell that to david dorn's family. police officers were harmed. folks were killed during these riots last year. the left ignored them. lauded them. called the folks political protesters. that is just crazy. the democratic party has a real problem. their leaders don't have courage to stand up to the crazy fringe elements, average americans who don't have armed security guards, don't live behind fenced in neighborhoods they want law enforcement keeping them safe. elizabeth: okay. governor bobby jindal. great to have you on. thanks for your insights. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up the heritage foundation hans von spakovsky. impeachment is going into the rear view mirror. senator rand paul is saying the votes aren't there. he is now pushing democrats, hey, do a rethink of your own rhetoric. we have that story. a big pushback today has democrats doing a rethink of their own policies that could

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♪. elizabeth: joining me now is heritage foundation senior legal fellow hans von spakovsky. great to see you again and have you on. senator rand paul says impeachment already failed. senator tim kaine says we'll not get to 67 votes. now they're talking censor. what do you think of all that? >> i think holding a trial now of a private citizen is unconstitutional. the impeachment clause in the constitution very clearly only applies to current federal officers and it is only intended for the purpose of removing

current federal officers and it just simply doesn't apply once, once a federal official has resigned and become a private citizen. so this is really a waste of time, particularly since it is pretty clear they won't be able to get the 2/3 votes necessary to convict. elizabeth: okay. we also have this, senator rand paul is saying that democrats insist on applying a test of incitement, that they refuse to apply to themselves. hans, i would like to have you take a listen to this, watch. >> many on the democrat side of the aisle cheered them on. kamala harris, famously offered to pay the bill for those who were arrested. i wonder if she will be brought up on charges of inciting violence for that, now that she is vice president? should kamala harris be impeached for offering to pay for violent people to get out of jail who have been burning our

cities down? no. and no republican has offered that because we're not going down the road that democrats have decided, this low road of impeaching people for political speech. elizabeth: hans, also cited representative maxine waters and cory booker, so that is senator rand paul there, take, take that on and take it on in light of you know, the idea, the debate about inciting unrest at the capitol riot. can you square this? >> well i think rand paul has definite point. you can, you can agree or disagree on what the president was saying, whether he should have been saying it but incitement to riot, that is a very specific federal crime that is defined under federal law and if you take the kind of political speak that the president was engaging in as

senator paul has pointed out, it wasn't, it really any different than or somehow worse than the kind of political speech we heard from vice president kamala harris and others and it would seem that they're going to have a tough time proving that this was an incitement to riot rather than political speech that i like i said, some may disagree with, would think was a bad idea, but, it wasn't, did it meet the definition of incitement to riot? i think they would have a tough time with that kind of a case. elizabeth: this is the issue. the biden agenda is moving through the congress. they're talking about tax hikes to fix government pensions. >> right. elizabeth: the commerce secretary gina raimondo, tax hikes on middle class to pay for climate change. they're talking about gas tax hikes. talking about taxes on number of

miles you travel in your car. let's listen to the biden administration's climate envoy, john kerry. he was asked about the biden agenda killing oil and gas jobs. listen to his explanation, watch. >> they could be the people who go to work to make the solar panels. i think workers are going to see that with the efforts of the biden administration they're going to have much better set of choices and frankly it will create more jobs. elizabeth: okay. let's show the scroll of the obama administration green energy failures. we have been here before 10 years ago, trying to plow government taxpayer dollars toward green companies that belly-flopped. so time and again, what is your take on this hans, what john kerry said? because he is getting heavily criticized coming off as elitist, your reaction? >> well, he should being heavily criticized for this.

all of these increases in taxes will hit the middle class which already has been hit hard by the pandemic, that shut down the country, that economy is struggling, and making it more expensive for the middle class, for blue-collar workers, particularly with things like gasoline taxes, which, yeah, i know, folks who drive around in limos don't worry about that but folks who drive their pickup trucks to work and have to earn a living, for them, those kind of taxes really hurt them and hit them hard. i just can't believe they are foolish enough to be pushing these kind of tax increases on america. elizabeth: talking about getting rid of jobs in the middle of a pandemic when families need to put food on their tables and take care of their loved ones if they happen to come down with covid-19. how is it unity when you want to add more jobless people, jobless workers to the unemployment

line, hans? >> it doesn't, it makes no sense in a struggling economy to do things that are going to cut jobs like, for example, the more than i think 11,000 jobs that will be cut because of the fact that they're stopping the keystone pipeline construction, which also is going to cut down on the flow of oil and gasoline into the country. elizabeth: yeah. can i just say this, because i have been covering government for three decades. 2014, president obama names joe biden his job training czar. says, go look at the dozens of myriad job training programs the federal government is running and report back to me. you are going to be the jobs czar. tell me what is going on. he spent 10 of millions of dollars, came back and said, the answer is job training doesn't work. the inside joke in the obama administration was, it was train and pray. train and pray workers get a

job. is that a practical way to help american people who are paying their government salaries with their tax dollars? >> no. what they need to do is, you need low taxes and you need to deregulate so that industry will recover and boom so that small businesses will once again grow and not hit as they have by the pandemic. that is how you create jobs in this country, by creating the right atmosphere so that private industry will take off and grow. and everything they're propose something the exact opposite of that. elizabeth: all right. hans, great to see you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: next up, retired i.c.e. acting director ron vitello. we've got reports coming in, sources say more caravans heading to the border. the biden administration is easing up on border policies. texas is asking the pentagon to get military medical personnel down to the southern border to deal with covid-19 cases. we're going to break down the

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vitello. we're telling about more caravans heading to the border. can you tell us about that? >> seems we put out a signal, biden administration told the world while campaigning now that he is president we're going soft on immigration enforcement and border security. the people in the pipeline, 8,000 folks coming from honduras and another caravan forming behind them, they're responding to incentives sent out by this administration. there is no jobs. there are very few jobs in honduras. it's a corrupt government. terrible violence and cartel activity. so they will attempt to do what caravans previously have done because they realize now that we have rolled back all the gains that were made under the trump administration as it relates to the migrant protection program or remain in mexico program. people will be back in scenario which the immigration framework allows for them to come into the united states. caught by border patrol, cpb

officers. there is not enough space in detention there is no family detention space that is viable. they can't have a hearing while they're in custody. they're released into the country. you roll back the ability to send them back into mexico. you will encourage more people. this is a rational act by people responding to the incentives they're going to get let go. elizabeth: but now we've got border patrol agents in the rio grande sector in texas, preparing for possible spread of covid-19 in southwest texas. the problem, border patrol guys, they are yet fully vaccinated. now the texas governor getting the pentagon to deploy medical military personnel from the army, navy and air force to the southern border. can you tell us about this? >> there is always a risk at the border. the activity of cartels and smugglers and large numbers of people coming across, the first-responders, border patrol agents, customs and border

protection officers their risk increased because of the activity. we put covid on top of that. put pandemic on top of that. you raise the risks for everybody. i watch what happens. i'm sure the governor's request will be responded to favorably. we'll watch the numbers closely. i again having large numbers of people walking up to the border is a potential problem for that state and other border states. elizabeth: okay. so we've got that issue. and then we have, you know, agents, being trained to offer medical screening and ppe to migrants who cross illegally. if agents come across anyone showing signs of covid-19 they get sent to a medical facility. so it is not just border crossings. it is also having to deal with a medical crisis that is a lot for our border patrol to deal with, right? >> correct. this added complexity and level of risk that is very delicate. they have to protect themselves and use the techniques and

procedures, ppe, et cetera. there is a medical screening that has to take place for the folks that they take into custody. so it's a very, there is a lot of threat in that situation. so got to do everything they can to keep themselves safe. but then respond to public health needs of people who may be in custody who are also ill. elizabeth: then we have this story, a texas judge brocked the biden administration's freeze on deportations because the white house failed to provide any concrete reasonable justification for that 100 day pause. it means that illegals charged with crimes as heinous as homicide, if they're only charged, not convicted they can be set free, is that it? >> so a pause on deportations and removals without an exception for criminal activity was always a bad idea. so god bless texas and the attorney general there, that pushed back on this, and the judge ruled in favor of the state because stopping the enforcement of immigration law, here is scenario, something that

was not convicted but committed a crime was in custody, turned over to i.c.e. and then they couldn't be deported after the judge ordered them deported? that is, that was always a bad idea, not to have exception for criminals. it is also a bad idea for the federal government to nullify immigration law. pretend that somebody being ordered deported or in the country illegally doesn't get removed or deported that was always a bad idea. having no exception for criminal activity just, it is a dereliction trying to figure out what is going on down there. the pause in stopping enforcement, just not, not good for border communities. it is not good to help shore up homeland security enterprise. it is not good for people involved. elizabeth: all right. ron vitello, thank you very much for joining us again. great to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: just ahead house budget committee ranking republican jason smith. more absurd lockdown policy examples.

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san francisco says keep churches locked down in california when malls and tattoo parlors are open for inside service and theme parks but schools have to remain closed. can you figure that out? >> first off, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely outrageous to think that they have these lockdown policies that, that it is okay for strip clubs and tattoo parlors to be open but if you want to worship your god in a church, that is unacceptable? these are liberal crazy policies going on whether it is in california, whether it is new york, that they have put the stranglehold on these small businesses where businesses are collapsing, they can't, barely keep their doors open. and in fact, they're not working. whether it is new york or california, they have some of the highest death rates, they have the highest urn employment rates. it is absolutely outrageous. elizabeth: now it seems like the democrats in the white house are going after the governors who

are doing it right. in florida the deaths per capita are below the national average even though they have vulnerable populations there. republican florida governor, congressman, he is ron desantis, he is going after white house press secretary jen psaki who wrongfully suggested that florida was sitting on vaccines when florida is not doing that. it is holding on to the supply because seniors and others need a second dose. let's listen to the white house press secretary. watch this. >> i will note, because there are data first here, facts fir here, they have only distributed 50% of the vaccine they have been given in florida. so, clearly they have a good deal of the vaccine. that supply will need to continue to increase as they are able to effectively reach people across the state. elizabeth: okay. facts first. governor desantis said florida is not sitting on vials of vaccines. the supply she is talking about second doses for those who got

their first dose. let's show governor desantis tweets. what is your reaction to that story? >> you know, it is ridiculous. i can tell you from the state of missouri, i talked to my governor today, mike parson. they need more vaccinations. we get on average, 125 to 150,000 shots a week in the state of missouri. we could use five to 600,000. we need the federal government to release the shots so the states can bring it forward. for miss saki going after desantis because he has been fairly successful in his state compared to his liberal counterparts in california and new york and pennsylvania, it is just, it is just really ridiculous. elizabeth: also, congressman, we have so many parents who are frustrated from coast to coast with what their local school systems are doing. the teachers unions are in a big fight with parents who are

saying our children are really losing out here. everybody understands covid-19 is dangerous. frustrated parents are saying wait a second. what are your local school boards doing? let's listen to this frustrated parent from virginia. >> you could all be fired from your day jobs because if you're employers knew you were more inefficient than the dmv, you would be replaced in a heartbeat. i literally just finished a conference call, having multitask to be here to address you guys. you're a bunch of cowards hiding behind our children as an excuse for keeping schools closed. you think you are some sort of martyrs because of decisions you're making. statistics do not lie that the vast majority of the people are not subject virus. the garbage workers pick up freakin' trash, risk their lives anymore someone in this school system. figure it out or get off the

podium? you know, people like me and a lot of other people out there who will gladly take your seat and figure it out! it is not a high bar. raise the frikin' bar! elizabeth: he said raise the freakin' bar! do you hear his frustration congressman? >> these are people on the ground saying will you guys wake up. go ahead. >> i hear that frustration all the time. i'm back here in southern missouri and people want their schools opened. parents want to send their kids to school. it is unacceptable that, that the schools are being closed. even the cdc has said open up the schools. the cdc under biden said open up the schools. the fact that you are having teachers unions, boycotting and going on strike and in chicago and everywhere else, just

because they don't want to educate their kids, think about this, in rural south police siri, if you went online, guess what? a lot of our kids, they don't have computers. a lot of our families have no access to broadband. so guess what? you go online, those kids will not be educated. there are some kids in our school system because they're in poor families, sometimes the only food they receive is in our school districts. open up the schools. this is what everyone is saying back home. this is what, what has to happen. elizabeth: all right. congressman, you were terrific. thanks so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. coming back soon. >> appreciate it, thank you. elizabeth: okay, still ahead we're going to stay on this story with "washington times" opinion editor charles hurt. we'll talk to him. we've got more proof that lockdowns just don't work. the story next. >> people are getting fed up. they're getting fed up with being locked this in their

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following. elizabeth: all right. so we have cdc hospitalizations, do show that hospitals, data shows hospitalizations they seem to be going down. there is a drop in symptomatic covid-19 patients coming to emergency rooms. but we've got city, state, federal leaders giving us pandemic chaos. that is what the "new york post" is reporting. charles, we like to show this, we have the top 10 states with the, with the, they don't have intense restrictions. they basically have dialed it back. and their jobless rate is a lot lower than the top 10 states with the worst restrictions. guess what? the top 10 states with the worst restrictions are blue democrat states mostly. and those that have eased back and dialed back are red states. your take on that? >> well, of course this entire, anything like this is going to have a whole, be affected a whole lot more at the state level which is, what you would predict.

what we're talking about here is politics. and the reason that the democrats for the past year now have decided to nationalize this issue, and blame every single one of these deaths on president trump is because they wanted to make political hay out of it. think about that, for a second, liz. what kind of a person takes a calamity like this, take as crisis like this, in which hundreds of thousands of americans are going to die and decides to turn it into a cudgel, a political cudgel to score political points? you have to be a really, really sick person to do that sort of thing. that is exactly what they did. we're where we are now, joe biden is in the white house we're finding out what you and i have known along, there is very limited amount that the federal government can do to stop all of this from, to stop the pandemic. there is a whole lot more that i think states can do in terms of, you know, you know, having the

vaccine ready and distributing it as we're seeing in places like florida where governor desantis is doing a very, very good job of that, versus, say, a place like new york where democrats are struggling to do it. but, the whole thing, this whole thing has been politicized. and to me, you know, i can't think of anything more disgusting than that. elizabeth: charles hurt, it is so good to see you. thank you very much for coming on. we really appreciate it. come back soon. same here. coming up we have a human interest story for you. there has been a lot of talk of statistics data on the border but tonight we'll put facing human, on this story. an angel husband, his life was changed forever after a criminal illegal alien took the life of his wife. that story next. >> 14,000 illegal aliens in

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elizabeth: with me now sam vigil, whose wife jacquelines with killed by a criminal attorney in 2019. he is joined by his attorney. sam, first tell us what happened. >> sure. this happened back in november 19th of 2019. it was in the early morning hours of, around 5:30 in the morning. my wife jackie was getting ready to go to the gym at the appointed time. she pulled out the car from the garage and as she was pulling out, the jeep evidently pulled up back behind her car and blocked her from leaving. you know, i was in the house and when i, i heard the horn, the car, and i guess at this point

in time is when they shot her. shot her through the window and she passed away there. i walked over to see what was going on. the jeep pulled back and quickly, you know, took off. but that, that is what happened. we, you know, just, cold-blooded murder. elizabeth: sam, i mean words fail right now. word cannot express the sorrow and grief we feel for you. robert, can you explain who this criminal illegal alien was. >> his name is telemonts. he had been on a 14 year i call it ram pain, primarily albuquerque but primarily southwest. he is a documented member of at juarez cartel gang. he was previously deported.

that means he was previously deported of criminal oaf fernses in 2006 and 2008 each time he is deported he is back in a week. that is shocking in itself. after his 08 deportation, he was back, went on another two-year crime spree. this is what the lawsuit was about, he was then convicted and did time in new mexico prison, a federal prison and was deported 2019 back again within another week and by virtue of sanctuary policy in the city of albuquerque, even though the police department knew he was here, they didn't call the federal law enforcement arrest

him and two months later he killed jackie. elizabeth: he has domestic violence, assault with a deadly weapon. sam, you're suing the sanctuary city of albuquerque. can you tell us what you want to accomplish with the lawsuit? >> my goal to try to make changes in the policy that we have here in albuquerque regarding sanctuary cities. i think that my wife would be alive today if some of those policies that they have wouldn't have been in place. and again, my goal is to try to change that and hope that this never ever happens to any other person anywhere you know. it's been for us a terrible experience that we have to go through this tragic thing that happened to my wife and my family. it is something that i guess

we'll have to live with for the rest of our lives. but it could have been avoided in my opinion. elizabeth: you and your wife were parents of two new mexico state police officers, is that, is that true. is that right? >> that is correct, yes. we have two sons that are state police officers. elizabeth: all right. sam, we just want to let you know, we're not alone. we've been out in front of this story, we've been covering it for four years. you're not alone. other families come on the show to talk about what you endured. take a listen. we want to give everybody a voice here to show washington you're not just a data point, you're not just a statistic. watch this. >> unbeknownst to me a classmate asked him for a ride home. we found out at the trial his intent was to murder josh for his truck. he brutally beat him. crushed his face and voice box. he beat him in the head with a closet rod four times until it broke. he strangled him, tortured him. he tied him up like a animal,

dropped him in a field and set him on fire. >> an illegal immigrant intoxicated hit him from behind, going probably 120 miles an hour. >> he was killed on his way home from work on may 12th, 2014 by repeat alien criminal driving drunk the wrong way over 35 miles slammed into my son. >> he and his partner got done running a call. on the way back to the station and a drunk driver, that was here illegally pull in front of the ambulance with no regard to anybody else and my husband's ambulance flipped over and he and his partner both lost their life in that accident. elizabeth: sam, your final word on that? >> yeah. it's a terrible feeling. i feel for them. elizabeth: yeah. >> because, you know, that terrible things just don't go away. they don't go away overnight. elizabeth: it is heartbreaking.

okay. >> that is why i feel you know, the sanctuary city policies have to change. elizabeth: okay. >> because whole community -- elizabeth: they have to change, robert. that's right. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. thank you for watching. join us again tomorrow night lou: good evening, everybody. a massive selloff on wall street driven by weak earnings for boeing and chip processing company amd and why would speck thattive trading -- speculative trading on gamestop and amc and a number of other stocks little known and now known better than ever before. federal reserve chairman jerome powelled today didn't help the markets much, as is his wont, saying the pandemic is causing economic uncertainty. we didn't the know that, did we? he is always helpful