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concha and brandon judd on today's big, developing stories. we've got more on what went on with the kevin clinesmith case, what is going on with u.s. attorney john durham's criminal propose of the trump-russia investigation. there's deep concern over this. also tonight protests breaking out in new york and in silicon valley against wall street over this gamestop chaos. but now critics say the sec and lawmakers, that they are now getting involved on the side of big hedge funds? at the behest of lawmakers like none if other than populist senator elizabeth warren. what's that about? that's what critics are asking. we're going to see probes and hearings into what happened when an army of digital day traders, average people, struck back at the wall street establishment for going bearish on stocks. now, will washington make matters worse with go plaintiff plaintiff -- go-nowhere grandstanding hearings and u.s. intelligence out with a major warning.

china right now is allegedly stealing americans' dna from their covid tests, their genetic material in order to become a superpower in drugs and vaccines. and more on the shocking, alleged cover-up of thousands of nursing home deaths by new york governor andrew cuomo and his administration after governor cuomo ordered recovering covid-19 patients back into nursing homes last spring. now the story is much worse. it's much more deeply dysfunctional and courageous than many realize. -- and dangerous. we've also got governor cuomo's long timeline of blame-shifting, finger-pointing and excuses at everybody else but himself. he did it again today, we're going to show you. plus, parents nationwide are now at their breaking point, growing more outraged by the day as school children suffer at home including minority school children, including low income school children who have no access to the internet to do remote learning. why teachers unions and school boards are blocking reopening

even though cdc and health officials now say it's seiche to open if -- safe to open if you have masks and social distancing. and more on a local parent calling out his local school board for incompetence and for hurting families and children. also tonight, border patrol officials now bracing for a heavy wave of executive orders from president biden next week. they're really worried this could weaken border security. watch this, there's a big push now going on to fight back. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. look who's back with us? former trump deputy national security adviser and author of the great book "revolution: trump, washington and we the people," it is kt mcfarland with us. your reaction to this, ex-fbi lawyer kevin clinesmith pleaded guilty that he did falsify cia

e-mails so the obama administration's fbi team could illegally spy on the trump campaign. he got 12 months' probation, 400 hours of community service. what was your reaction to that sentencing? [laughter] >> i guess i wasn't surprised because i determined a while ago that there really are two tiers of justice or injustice in washington d.c. one is for the washington insiders, you know? the permanent bureaucracy that think they're in charge of the country. and the other is for the outsiders or republicans or people in the trump administration. and there are two different sentencings, two different accusations, two totally different systemmings. so klein -- systemmings. so klein smith, he did something very wrong. it's not just that he misspoke during an investigation, he altered documents to spy on an american citizen, and he did it knowingly. so what's his, what's his punishment? oops, a little slap on the wrist. too bad. don't do that again. but the bigger crime, i think, and the bigger sort of travesty

on the american people is that this guy was a small fry fish. what about the big fish? what about the guys who perpetrated the russia hoax for years? what about the people who destroyed, tried to destroy the trump administration? where are they? they're celebrated as heroes in washington, d.c., and they will never be brought to justice. they got away with it. elizabeth: yeah. and, you know, we hear what you're saying about he was a low-level official. he did also send out anti-trump text messages saying he was stressed that trump won, viva la resistance, we're going to fight back, things like that. you know what's importanted, kt, watch the timeline, he did it in the summer of 2017, way after the fbi was finding they were coming up empty, coming up try on anything with trump-russia collusion. later james clapper would testify to that, james comb would testify to that the, lisa

page, peter strzok. so that's the timeline. it makes you wonder if they got away with this at this secret fisa terror court -- it's meant for terrorists -- if they got away with that, what else are they getting away with? >> well, that's the big question, what are we ever going to find out? the durham report is taking so long. i mean, i've lost all hope and confidence that it'll ever find anything. and if it does find anything, it'll be buried underneath the potomac, nobody will ever find out because justice delayed, in this case, is justice denied. and the thing you just said, liz, is really important. the fisa court, all these instruments we gave to the justice department, the fbi i, the intelligence community were meant to go after bad guys, after terrorists, after people who tried to destroy the united states. but this political leadership within the intelligence community, the fbi, probably the west wing at the obama white house, they used those instruments to go after their political opponents. and yet nobody's been held

accountable. that's what i find just the most obnoxious part of all of it, that they were never held accountable, they've develop away with it. in fact, a number of people involved in the entire russia hoax, their now in the new -- they're now in the new biden administration in bigger jobs. elizabeth: okay, we hear what you're saying. so the fbi uses an anti-trump opposition research file from christopher steele paid for by the dnc, paid for by hillary clinton's campaign because hillary was going to use that information to fight back against the 2016 election if she lost. that's what christopher steele testified in court. they used that the justify fisa wiretaps. our sourceses in the fbi and intelligence keep telling us they're way more powerful than normal wiretaps. you can listen to carter page's phone and anybody else that he's talking to. and he addressed the court today as a victim. he's received death threats after the fbi probe into him was

leaked. he's a victim here. >> oh, he's a total victim. and i thought actually, i must say, i thought it was a very -- i mean, turning the other cheek that carter page, he spoke today at ther hearing and he said, you know, i've been destroyed by this whole process, and yet i don't recommend jail time for mr. clinesmith. you know, nobody in washington is going to be that generous and decent about it as carter page has been. carter page, yeah, he's been destroyed. his career was destroyed. he's a naval academy graduate. whatever you may think of him, this guy has been wrongfully accused of something, he's been, first, forced into bankruptcy. his entire career is finished, and he's been made a laughingstock. he'll never recover from that. and why did the they do it? because they could. and why did they do it? they wanted to use that somehow to get to donald trump. elizabeth: and, you know, senator lindsey graham is saying this punishment trivial eyeses a

stunning breach of duty to the american people. missouri republican congressman billy long says does anyone go to jail for anything in d.c. anymore? listen, we hear what you're saying about carter page being a gentleman and saying don't go hard on kevin clinesmith, but the issue is what about the big guns? here's the telling point from john durham. here's what he is -- this is what we zoomed in on with john durham and his team said in court, kt. what said did not like was kevin clinesmith's anti-trump text messages. does that mean john durham is now zooming in on other comey, james comey team members and their anti-trump bias and their abuse and perjury before the fisa court? could he be doing that? >> well, they were certainly open about it. i mean, peter strzok, lisa page, comey, they were all, you know, they were all talking about viva la resistance, we want to make sure that donald trump doesn't govern, we've got an insurance policy to make sure even if he is elected, that we're going to destroy his presidency from

within. i don't know, if john durham saws something, please, share it with the american people because right now, i don't know, i mean, can you imagine the justice department going against the biden administration officials? now that they're all, now that they're their bosses? i don't know. i just think justice delayed in this case has been justice denied, and i'm just disgusted by the thought that these guys have all gotten away with it. where are the comeys? where are the peter strzoks? they got away with it. in fact, a lot of them made money on it. [inaudible conversations] >> mccabe, yeah. elizabeth: we hear you. [laughter] finish your thought, what they did to the nation, go ahead. >> they dragged us through three years of a phony russia hoax that they made up, and now what do they do? they pitted americans against each other, at each other's throats so here we are today. we were right for now the pandemic and the crisis -- ripe.

half of the country hates each other, and i say the original sin goes back to the perpetrators of the russia hoax, and they'll never have to pay a price for it. elizabeth: all right. kt mcfarland, you were fired up. it's great to see you again. >> great to see you too, liz. elizabeth: okay. come back soon. okay, coming up, dewey and munson, no, it's not a law firm. it is our ace top rock star wall street panel. they're going to talk about the gamestop stock market chaos. now, critics are saying why is the sec, why are lawmakers getting involved on the side of big hedge funds at the behest of none other than elizabeth warren? she's a populist, right? but they're going to do hearings into what happened when an army of digital day traders, average people, struck back at the wall street establishment for going bearish with short sales and attacking stocks. well, will washington make matters worse? that debate next.

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critics say the congressional probes that are coming out of house financial services and senate banking, that what they're saying what's happening is hedge funds are complaining to washington and now washington is answering the hedge fund call to look into this. so, you know, this is like going after the minnows instead of the whale, you know what i mean? i mean, the hedge funds are basically saying to congress, look into this, and they're reacting. that's what we're hearing. what are you hearing? >> okay, this is the most ridiculous thing. everybody in trader land, which i like to hang out and obsess about, the inside baseball talk that you have extreme arely large funds and large organizations riding along with these robinhood guys. you're not going to get gamestop making this type of squeeze just with an a army of little people. i love that the little guys are winning, but the honest to god truth is it's major, large institutions that are causing

the short squeeze. i think it's very disingenuous the hedge funds would need any protection. you do whatever you think you can get away with and is legal, and now they're a complaining about id because they lost some money. they should can their other hedge fund brethren who caused many know go bankrupt, because when you look at ken griffeth, you know, buying out melvin capital, i'm sorry, he's the guy pushing that stock up, killing his brother and then buying a minority stake at pennies on the dollar. that's the inside scoop, and that's what people aren't hearing enough of. elizabeth: yeah, that's e a great point. we're hearing tattoo, and it's sort of like, really? -- that too. and it's like, or really, washington's going to two after the little guys, the day traders? and you always hear you'll lose your shirt and crazy market action. we understand what is going on right now. but what about the hedge fund guys? don't they know they're going to

lose their shirt too? now to you, sam dewey. what will washington accomplish here with hearings? because we're hearing it's going to be go-nowhere, grandstanding hearings talking about things like the wealth tax. what are you hearing? >> i've heard some of the same thing, and i think the real question is going to be how these hearings play out in the next couple of weeks as they set them up. because they can go one of two ways. it can be a productive conversation, points that my colleague raised, what's really causing this, how does the little guy relate to the big guy, or it can be what you just said, members sitting there grandstanding, looking for the political talking points. and that's a balancing act, and that's going to depend on relationships between members in the senate banking committee and in the house financial services committee and relationships between staff and how quickly staff can work to get that minimal amount of information they need to really make it a

productive hearing and talk about some of the issues -- elizabeth: yeah. and, lee, you know what we're hearing is there's going to be a lot of grandstanding in washington to turn the these hearings to talk about a wealth tax, a wealth tax on our net worth which means you would need to have an army of irs appraisers, not just auditors, to assess how much your car is worth, how much your house is worth. you know what? there should be a washington tax on stupidity, a d.c. stupid tax. that would raise way more money than a wealth tax. and the other stuff that's going on, lee, is you hear this talk of, you know, out of cnn that this is anti-establishment stuff, it's equal to, you know, the trump supporter being anti-establishment. i mean, really fatuous stuff we're hearing. >> they tried this in france, there's really no way to try to do the accounting. and in america i just, i don't think that we're going to have -- with only 50-50 in the

senate -- enough political will to do something as silly as that. every time you see a bubble like we did 12 years ago and 20 years, ago, you're going to have the grandstanding and come up with new regulations. the real issue is what kind of regulations are they going to do that are going to cause the markets to sell off and my clients to lose money -- elizabeth: you know what they should do? >> [inaudible] elizabeth: right. lee, you know what they should do? >> i could tell them what they should do. e. elizabeth: they should reinstate the uptick rule. that would stop the short selling way to the downside where you can only short a stock on an uptick based on the prior trade going up. so back to you -- >> that's a great rule. yeah, great rule. elizabeth: okay. we hear you. back to you, sam. here's what happened, a bunch of digital day traders, the average guys at home, they figured out,t that, you know, basically gamestop stock, the amount of

short positions were bigger than the shares outstanding. they saw that and then they did a bull run, a all raid to do a short squeeze. and what lee is really so good at pointing out is it's not just the little guys. it's other hedge funds who saw it too. they're going at the -- they're sharks in a tank going after each other, so what do you expect out of congressional hearings here, sam? final word. >> i think if it focuses on what, you know, you're afraid it's going to focus on and what it's focused on in the past, it's just going to be sound bites, sharks in a tank throwing sound bites at each other. and the hope that is that everybody can get together, work through this and dress -- address this in a manner of a realistic outcome. the wealth tax isn't going to happen. could this lead to some small ball positive reforms, sure, but that the requires people working together. elizabeth: yeah. well, senator elizabeth warren wants a wealth tax. watch those hearings turn into that. lee and sam, you guys are so

good. we're going to have you back on. it's good to see you. okay, next up, former state department official christian whiton with this major warning from u.s. intelligencer, china trying to steal americans' dna from the americans' covid tests in order to become a super power in drugs and vaccines. the story next. >> many americans still think china's a normal country. people are trying to change that. my book argued that they're not a normal country, but we have a long way to two, liz. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: just stop. get a hobby. you should meditate. eat crunchy foods. go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. are you kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show former state department official christian whiteon. what is going on here with the u.s. intelligence warning that china is now trying to steal american' dna from covid-19 tests in order to become a super power and dominate the world in drugs and vaccines? what's happening here? >> well, i know, it sounds a little bit like a 1970s sci-fi thriller, but it's not that far beyond the realm of possibilities in where technology is going, especially you've seen the speed with which health care has prodepressed during this covid -- prodepressed during this -- prodepressed during this covid

crisis. basically give the vaccine only to countries that it likes. again, it's not withinned today's technology, but china is great at vacuuming up information. it's the biggest consumer of data in world history. unlike our intelligence-gathering agencies, it faces no restraints whatsoever, so something to worry about here. elizabeth ble yeah. so the u.s. already relies on china for ppe and for chemicals for drugs. this company, it's the world's biggest biotech firm, close ties to chinese military and the chinese communist party. it's basically used as a front for china to go into u.s. states, say we're going to build your laboratory for you, we're going to provide covid-19 tests for you. they tried it in about a dozen states, even half a dozen states and say we're going to build your labs, but then they're pulling out, as you point out, vacuuming out, taking out

americans' dna information. are the states smart enough to know what's going on, or are they just saying, give us the money, china. >> you know, i wouldn't be sure they are smart enough to know what's going on or that it's not even worth taking the risk. if you look at the issue with huawei, and the trump administration encontacted strict controls on -- enacted strict controls on huawei. it was very hard convincing state toss part with huawei equipment because huawei did something very similar to what this biotech company's doing. they came in, they offered equipment well below market value, they tried to put out of business western companies that make the same technology, sell it cheap, get us hooked if then effectively have visibility into our data and perhaps be able to sabotage our communications if a crisis comes along. elizabeth: christian, thanks so much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: okay. we're coming into the bottom of

the hour. you are watching the fox business network. just ahead, west virginia governor jim justice, he's got a lot to say about the shocking cover-up of thousands of nursing home deaths by new york golf andrew cuomo and his administration after governor cuomo ordered recovering covid-19 patients to go back into nursing homes in new york state last spring. this story is much worse, much more deeply dysfunctional and dangerous than many realize. and we also have governor cuomo's long timeline of blame shifting, finger pointing and excuses. the story next. ♪ >> i hope, liz, that we have an independent, bipartisan investigation with subpoena power to get the governor and his health commissioner on the stand to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. and let us have our moment as well to tell him what he's done to our families. we want the answers, but we also want accountability from this governor, his administration and

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♪ ♪ >> if you think there was a mistake, then go talk to the federal government. it's not the about pointing fingers or blame. it's that this became a political football, right? look, whether a person died in the hospital or died in the nursing home, it's -- people died. elizabeth: okay. did you catch that? new york governor andrew cuomo first says it's not -- if you want answers, if you want to know what happened, talk to the federal government. but then he says it's not about blame shifting. okay, he's out with more excuses after that bombshell report from

the new york attorney general that his office covered up the true nursing home covid death count. it's actually 50% higher than what the cuomo report reported. let's welcome back to the show west virginia governor jim justice. governor, here's the thing, we love having you back on. state lawmakers and watchdogs said governor cuomo's office blocked the evidence for ten months, covered it up, after he ordered nursing homes to take back in recovering covid patients. as the above in a pandemic -- governor in a pandemic, how did you guys handle it? >> well, it's surely not a good story, liz. but to just be perfectly honest, these are times when it's really tough, and decisions are really, really tough. but from our standpoint, you know, we watched new york in lots of ways. we watched the tragedy of freezer trucks pulling in to the

hospitals and hauling off umpteen numbers of people. and we watched the situation to where we got to some level of hysteria over ventilators, you know, that we needed more ventilators, we need more ventilators. then we found them, we found them right there in new york. they were there from the very beginning x. now this. what this does is it distorts your credibility. you know, what we've done in west virginia is try to keep everybody together, you know? i mean, there's a story, if i could tell you real quickly, that my dad would tell me all the time about a guy that was applying for a cfo job. and he had three applicants, and he called them in, you know? and as he was calling them in, the first he said what's 2 plus 2, he said, 4. you're dismissed. the second one said, well, it could be 4, it could be -4, it could be 0. he said you're dismissed. the third walked over to him and

whispered in his ear, anything you want it to be, sir. well, at the end of the day, you know, if you've got a health commissioner or health director, whoever that may be, and they're coming up with numbers and just telling you numbers that, you know, are absolutely distorted numbers, that's not very good. elizabeth: yeah. all right, what happened was they didn't count can deaths if people died inside hospitals and not in nursing homes even though they caught covid in the nursing home. his executive order blocked nursing homes from even testing hospital patients for covid before they were put back into nursing homes. and so what we're also seeing is, you know, that he's also basically blaming everybody else but not himself for signing his own executive order. he's blaming the media, he blames "the new york times," he blames "the wall street journal," he blames the federal government, he blames president trump, he blames nursing home workers. his administration in july of 2020 put out a report saying my executive order was not a

significant factor, and that report blamed nursing home workers for the spread of covid. so this is even more dysfunctional and more problematic than people realize, governor. >> well, how to do you get better at anything in this world? you admit you're doing something wrong. and blaming everybody else isn't going to cut it. you know that and i know it too. you know, in west virginia one thing we do is we update -- we've had problems at nursing homes just like everybody else, or assisted living. and we have a lot, a lot, a lot of deaths at nursing homes and assisted living. but we update every week if we have a patient that leaves the nursing home and goes to a hospital, we count it and update it every week and make it completely transparent. but, you know, just blaming people, different people, that's not good. that's not going to work. elizabeth: and, you know, janice dean pointed this out too, and we're also investigating this as well -- we're trying to do reporting on this -- it's not

just new york state. it could be happening also in california and michigan have had problems here. we understand it's tough. it's tough in a pandemic to get the right policies. but, you know, why would you put back people into a nursing home with a highly contagious virus and not just basically sequester those individuals away from the general population? that's what florida did. >> well, to be perfectly honest, you know, i think what happened is things got very chaotic, and people were just running and putting people in different places and everything just to get 'em in a bed and get 'em, you know, take time to get 'em taken care of. i know what you're speaking of. janice dean's parents, her mom or dad died x it was tragic beyond belief. and that kind of management, you know, is are reflective of how many bureaucrats have done their jobs. you know, really and truly, this job took ungodly focus.

and not to take anything away from the focus, you know, that was going on with the governor from new york, but, you know, writing books or accepting emmys or -- there was no time for any of that. there was only time to stay focused. but just common sense means you can't put people right back into the nursing home community. you could have maybe blocked off wings or had it just absolutely just in a way that nothing could happen or the very best outcome you would hope would happen. but you couldn't i throw people right back into the general population. it's almost just like opening the doors and letting the lions go in because we know how it spreads in nursing homes, and it's catastrophic. it's really, really, really tough to control. elizabeth: yeah, it's just so, it's just so is painful, you know, governor? i mean, seven out of ten covid deaths here in new york state

are people who are 70 or older. that's what happened, above. final word. >> no, the same thing in west virginia, the same thing all as cross our nation, you know? the bottom line to the whole thing just one thing, and that is in west virginia we've kept our people together, and we've had to tell 'em some tough truths from time to time, but we've kept our people together, and we've done that out of reliability and the advice of a lot of great experts and everything. and we've been in front of them nearly every day, and we're going to continue to tell them the truth no matter -- and be completely transparent no matter how -- elizabeth: yeah. that's the way to go. governor, we love having you on. you're a straight shooter, you tell it like it is. come back soon, governor justice, it's good to see you. >> thanks, liz. appreciate you. liz: next up, the hill media reporter joe concha on this story, parents nationwide at their breaking point, growing more frustrated and outraged by the day as their school children

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suffering at home not going to school, school boards and teachers won't reopen until teachers get vaccinated, even though the cdc says schools can reopen with masks and social distancing, there's not evidence of a covid surge in schools. that's what jama says. what's your reaction when you see this all put together? >> as a parent, liz, as somebody who has gone through this, fortunately, my child, who's 5 days old goes to school five days a week for school days because it's a private institution. so i can empathize with these parents. i couldn't even imagine, liz, if you're a single mom and you have to work, how do you do this when your kid a is at home and not at school and yet you have to make a paycheck? the bottom line is that the cdc, okay? we were told listen to the science, says that this spread does not happen within schools or doesn't lead to community spread after the fact in any

meaningful way. so all i know is we have a president now who said listen to the doctors, listen to the science, listen to the data, and we're going to follow that. okay. all the data says that kids should be back in school, yet joe biden will not stand up to the teachers unions in this case, elizabeth. elizabeth: yeah, that's what's happening now. and, you know, you make a great point about low income families, single moms. they don't have -- many of these families don't have computers or internet access to do, you know, basically remote learning. you know, there's evidence of a social, emotional and academic toll clearly on children, clearly also emotional toll on parents. let's listen begun to brandon mechong take on his local school board in virginia. watch this. >> you can all be fired from your day jobs because if your employers learned you were more inefficient than the dmv, you would be replaced in a heartbeat. i literally just finished a conference call because i'm having to multitask to be here

to address you guys. you're a bunch of cowards hiding behind our children as an excuse for keeping schools closed. you think you're some sort of marters because of the decisions you're making when the statistics do not lie that the vast majority of the population is not at risk from this virus. the garbage workers who pick up my freaking trash risk their lives every day more than anyone in this school system! figure it out or get off the podium! because you know what? there are people like me and a lot of other people out there who will gladly take your seats and figure it out! it's not a high bar. raise the freaking bar! elizabeth: you know, he is so frustrated too, and the point is and also they're getting a government paycheck. a lot of these school boards have cushy, cushy jobs. that's what people are up against here. your final word, joe.

>> i want that guy to run for secretary of education. i guess you can't run for it, chosen as secretary of education or hold some sort of public office. that sort of passion matches what so many parents are saying right now. okay, teachers unions, prove that it's unsafe that you can't go back, and look at all the school districts including mine in new jersey where it is working when you take the right precautions. and until you provide any sort of evidence, you don't have any place here at the table, and the president needs to stand up to the teachers unions but, of course, he will not. elizabeth: it's really hard because, you know, private schools, catholic schools are fighting to stay open, and this is going on. joe, you're great. you're going to come back soon. we have a special programming note. on monday we are going to have on this show that passionate dad from virginia, brandon michon. he's going to join us right here on "the evening edit." next up, the biden administration is about to roll out a whole bunch of executive orders next week with about border security.

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♪ ♪ elizabeth: back with us now, brandon jutted, national border patrol -- judd, national border patrol council president. let's start with this story. there was a pretty complete media blackout on antifa terrorists rioting at the i.c.e. facility in portland, oregon. it happened in the middle of the week. five dozen antifa terrorists burned american flags, they threw projectiles and mortar explosives at federal police officers and also at the i.c.e. building. they set up a homemade bomb in a dumpster in front of the i.c.e. facility so now antifa is switching away from, you know, defund the police, police brutality towards i.c.e. and immigration. your thought about this? >> if this isn't proof that the media leans liberal, i don't know what is. why isn't the media covering

that this is a federal building, that this is, this is an attack on the federal government, yet everybody's silent about it? and, again, that just goes to show you that conservativism just isn't popular in the media and that the media wants to see liberalism and leftist policies continue to succeed. elizabeth: so, you know, the issue is could this, could these attacks on i.c.e. facilities spread? >> of course they can, and they're going to spread. it's always a stepping point. with crime you start small, and you work up big. they didn't start -- antifa didn't start attacking federal buildings first. they started with riots in the streets. they started with, they started small, and then they start working up. so if they start attacking federal buildings and there is no response by the federal government, of course they're going to continue to spread. that's how terrorism works. elizabeth: yeah. it's dangerous.

people could get hurt or seriously injured or even get killed in attacks like this. we're going to stay on this story. okay, let's turn to this case, next case. border patrol officials, we're hearing, they're bracing for a heavy wave of executive orders from president biden next week. the concern is that border policies could get weakened. but we're seeing, there's this -- brandon, there's this 50-50 split in congress right now. house hasn't seen this thin a margin since 1900. so there's -- maybe republicans will start pushing back on this because you can only go so far with executive orders especially when state attorneys general, the g work p branch of that -- gop branch of that say we're going to start suing the biden administration. your thoughts in. >> oh, that's exactly what's going to happen. texas has already been successful in their initial lawsuit against the moratorium on deportations for the first hundred days. if you try to legislate through executive order, that's, that opens you up to lawsuits.

liz, i watch your show all the time. i know that you care deeply about this country. and all of your listeners that care deeply about this country, you have to say for the country first we want president biden to succeed. it's not about politics, it's not about the republicans or democrats. it's about what's best for this country. immigration is a very important issue for this country. illegal immigration is something that the vast majority of the americans do not want. when you start to put politics ahead of what the, what your constituency wants, that's when politics come into play, and you just can't do that. we can't open up the borders, we can't invite people to come into the states illegally. it has to be a legal process. elizabeth: well, and there's also this, you know, it's about putting faces to the, the faces behind the data and the statistics that washington relies on. we talked to an angel his earlier this week, sam deehill's wife was killed by a criminal

illegal alien deported multiple times. he is now suing the sanctuary city of albuquerque, new mexico. let's listen to him. >> back in november 19th of 0 -- 2019, it was in the early morning hours, around 5:30 in the morning. my wife jackie was getting ready to go to the gym at that point in time. she was pulling out -- she pulled out the car from the garage, and as she was pulling out the jeep, evidently, pulled up back behind her car and blocked her from leaving. you know, i was in the house, and when i, i heard the horn, the car, and i guess at that point in time is when they a shot her. elizabeth: brandon, i'm to sorry, you've got five seconds. >> our hearts break for that, that husband. this can't happen. we've got to stop illegal

immigration. has to stop. elizabeth: brandon judd, thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald, you're watching "the evening edit." have a good weekend. join us again monday night. ♪ ♪n, thanks for joining us. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. the radical dems enjoyed, you may recall, surprising success in the november election. in fact, there required only 45,000 votes in three states to win the presidency. so why would they not want the same good fortune all across the country? it turns out they do. two oregon lawmakers -- senatorr ron wyden and congressman earl blumenauer of portland, oregon -- have introduced legislation so that the entire