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homan, wonderful to see you, my friend. join us here tomorrow. congressman burgess owens, one of our favorites, sean duffy, historian victor davis hanson are among our guests. thanks for watching fox business tonight. have a wonderful evening. ♪. elizabeth: biden administration now getting slammed by economists, conservatives, security experts for letting politics and democrat special interests politicize and weaken three major policies that affect american families, their jobs and security. it is not even the first 100 days. it is about killing oil and fast jobs, creating more poverty in the oil patch failing to reopen schools as promised, kids and parents especially single moms suffer. it is about appeasing china, weakening border security. the pushback against all that is picking up speed. on the show, matthew whitaker,
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james comer, kelly armstrong, john cox, james carafano. look at this story, dozens celebrities demanding green activists demand president biden kill the keystone pipeline. 14 attorneys general, say stop the out of touch virtue signaling. you're creating more poverty during the pandemic. critics ask why is it okay for the biden administration to cut down keystone pipeline but okay for hunter biden to work deals overseas to compete with the u.s. backed by russia and china. parents and students coast to coast poe testing school shutdowns as students face generation -- a shutdown getting more politicized due to push back from democrats and teachers unions but now the biden administration is answering the
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accusations of broken promises to reopen schools by now setting the bar so low for getting kids back in class that that bar is already being met. and, conservatives now warning that the biden administration may not be strong enough to stand up to china. it recently yanked a trump rule that have blocked china's inroads into u.s. universities as it tries to steal u.s. r&d. new fears over the biden administration weakening border security. that is what border patrol experts are warning. the drug cartel war is getting increasingly militarized. mexican drug cartels now increasingly using uniformed troops, military weapons, armored vehicles and ieds but today, the white house did a 180 on the border and about border security but is that 108, is that change ever heart, is it real? thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right
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now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. with me now, matthew whitaker, former acting attorney general. great to have you back on, matthew. dozens of hollywood celebrities pressuring joe biden to kill the keystone pipeline but senator joe manchin, afl-cio chief richard trumka say that is a bad idea. it looks like it is getting more politicized by the day. what do you make of it. >> it is. who is getting caught the good people in the dakotas working on the pipeline whose jobs depend on it. i saw a a great feature who interviewed the folks. day one they would stop the project. day one, january 20th, all those people lost their jobs and the project was stopped. so for a lot of americans, this administration sure looks like a job-killer f we listen to
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hollywood elites that have no connection to the real economy and how we're going to, you know, take all of the above energy approach, then i think, you know, we're going to be in real trouble if our policy is dictated by hollywood. elizabeth: yeah. 14 state ags are threatening to sue. we're talking about creating poverty in the middle of a pandemic in states like montana, texas, america's hard heartland. these are middle, lower, income class workers doing that without giving them a job to turn to. the other thing happened, i would like to talk to you about this, this is a big fight that broke out on capitol hill, the funding for biden administration new climate change energy agenda, driven by omb nominee, neera tanden. she faced a real grilling at the confirmation hearing. lissen to this. react to it. >> i have to tell you, i'm very
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disturbed about your personal comments about people. that is not just one or two. i think you deleted about a thousand tweets and it wasn't just about republicans. and i don't mind disagreements in policy. i think that's great. i love the the die a electric, the comments were personal. i mean, you called senator sanders everything but a ignorant slut. elizabeth: she, had comments about senator bernie sanders when she was working for her old boss hillary clinton. we now have senator bernie sanders running senate budget committee. she deleted more than 1000 tweets critical of republicans. now we have infighting among the democrat party as trying to do climate change agendas and more. >> right. this candidate has always been a lightning rod. has been a pot stirrer and sort
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of what makes politics nasty going after people personally. you know you see this on twitter often but you know, it is usually from these types like her that are the blue checkmarks that go after people that they disagree with and not on policy as senator kennedy points out, but go after them personally. so you know, i think she, i would be surprised if she is actually ended up becoming omb director because of her challenges in the senate. i can't imagine that senator sanders is going to walk to work with her after she had attacked him so personally. elizabeth: all right. get back to the keystone pipeline and oil and gas jobs now being killed. is it okay for the biden administration to shut down all of that, but it is okay for hunter biden to keep his ownership stake in a chinese investment fund that invest in chinese oil and gas deals competing with the u.s.? what do you say to that? >> no. and the short answer is no.
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if you look what the biden administration is doing reducing domestic production, whether the keystone pipeline which bring as pipeline from canada, whether closing off all of the public lands to additional fracking and oil exploration, but what that does, that reduces our ability to be energy independent and it puts, you know, gives other countries and other places that produce it an advantage. what this advantage does, keeps hunter biden interest in oil and gas company in china more valuable. so he can allegedly get out of the investment before that reduces the value once we move to this, you know, alleged green economy that we're being promised by the biden administration. elizabeth: yeah. he still has not divested his 10% ownership stake in that chinese equity fund that he helped launch with 1 1/2 billion from china after he flew on air force two to china with his father. he promised to get rid of it but he hasn't.
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this fund, vhr fund, has invested in energy projects like china petroleum, china energy group, that company was sanctioned accused of stealing u.s. energy secrets. another deal, cefc, basically, cefc, the chairman of that was hunter biden as partner. the chairman of that cefc, company, matthew, was considered quote, china's bridge to russia on oil and gas deals. he tried to help it guy get stake, ownership stake in rosneft, russia's big petroleum company. that was hunter biden on that. what do you say to that? >> well all of these investments hunter biden has been involved in were really shady and sketchy and this one in particular that you mentioned where the chairman has gone missing in china. i think you know, there is going to be more to that. but fundamentally, one of the things president trump was able to accomplish was to bring an
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attention to american industry, american companies and to really encourage their growth an development instead of what you see with hunter biden is encouraging the growth and development of foreign companies, whether it's ukraine, whether it's china. so i think, hunter biden is currently under criminal investigation. i think that's a serious concern for him and should be but i think these investments as well, that he can't seem to extricate himself from, are a growing concern for the biden administration. elizabeth: and now we've got the biden administration, john kerry and jennifer granholm, the energy department nominee for secretary there, saying oil and gas workers have to sacrifice and lose their job, lose their jobs, trying to go find green jobs on their own when they're not there states where jobs are being killed. germany did this. germany tried to go green. it has been unmitigated disaster. so much so germany is running russia's oil pipeline into the
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country, north stream ii. germany saw energy jobs cut in half by 150,000, in 10 years time. why? china is doing it cheaper, solar panels, green, lithium technology. your reaction to that? >> those workers that got fired on january 20th that were working on the keystone pipeline, feel this directly. there are not green jobs waiting for them to work on solar important nels as john kerry suggests. really at the end of the day we take approach all of the above energy approach. let the best technologies continue to flourish and to drive this american economy. any other policy is completely partisan and it is completely pie-in-the-sky dream that we're just not there technologically and we should not hamstring american, and the american economy under the guise of sort of this green new deal that we're seeing implemented.
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elizabeth: matthew whitaker, thanks for joining us. great to see you. >> liz, great to see you. elizabeth: up next congressman james comer on the new white house bar for getting children back in schools. it is being set so low it is already being met. a school reopening goal that is not a goal at all. it looks more politicized by the day. the story next. >> he is bowing to the teachers union obviously because they were big donors to his campaign. obviously doesn't want to lose those votes but kids are the ones that are suffering at this point. we're seeing suicides skyrocket at this point. we're seeing visits to the emergency room for mental health issues increase by 31% for kids 12 to 17 years old. this is a farce and it needs to be called out probably the biggest misstep of the biden administration thus far. because i can still make my own insulin. and trulicity activates my body to release it like it's supposed to. trulicity is for type 2 diabetes.
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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome a member the house education and labor committee, back with us is congressman james comer of kentucky. congressman it is good to see you again. sir, now we've got parents and students coast to coast protesting against school shutdowns. your thoughts on that. because the president said this is a national emergency. he said he would reopen schools in the first 100 days but that is not happening. your reaction? >> it is very disappointing. the president said he would safely reopen schools within his first 100 days but he is already backpedaling on that. the president said he would
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listen to the science and the experts but instead he is taking orders from the teachers union bosses. i can tell you as a parent of three children in the public schools that have been based in virtual learning for almost a year, the learning drop-off is substantial between virtual learning and in-person learning. so i'm glad there is a movement all across america to try to get these schools safely reopened. elizabeth: okay. so now the biden administration is being accused of setting the bar so low to reopen that that bar is already being met. talking about only about half of american schools open at least one day a week by may 1st? is that the goal, really when that is already happening? we've seen protests in california, maryland, illinois, oregon. so that's the bar, really? >> that goal is substandard. we had an education committing hearing yesterday. it was 13 hours long.
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republicans proposed 33 amendments. many of those amendments were focused on cutting off funding to schools that refuse to reopen. unfortunately the democrats every time to go along with the wishes of the teachers unions and let me add, those teachers unions are primarily based in the big cities where we have a majority of failing schools. in the school districts in most of the rural america, they have reopened and kids are going back to school. it's safe. they're learning. it is just unfortunate what is happening in these big cities where they're dominated by the teachs unions. elizabeth: the cdc, the ama and java said safe to reopen schools. they don't see covid superspreader events in schools. here is what is happening, firemen, cops, mailmen, grocery store workers are back at the job but teachers union, we know they have a tough job, tough to be a teacher, they have tens of
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billions of dollars in covid relief, people wonder what the money is being spent on because you're not reopening? it is heartbreaking to hear students are saying. i know you want to get into this. reaction to this student, watch. >> every week i hope everything will go back to normal. every week it didn't i started to lose hope. we have missed so many school events, rallies, games dances. i understand the risk to getting sick. i've seen the effects of illness for some. why other schools, private schools down the street are open? how come we're told our schools are ready to have us back but we aren't? elizabeth: your reaction? >> i think a lot of the schoolkids i would know would have the same reaction. it is so immoral what happened to these kids. they have lost a year of their education educational lives. missed out on school activities, extracurricular activities, a whole lot of learning.
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it is very disappointing when we have examples of private schools, public schools in rural areas that safely reopened. the kids are safe. they're not getting sick. the teachers are not getting sick. it is what public education is supposed to be about. with respect to the funding, we have a lot of questions, the republicans on the house education committee do, with respect to the money has been spent. teachers union says they need more money to reopen schools but they have gotten a lot of money but it is unaccounted for. elizabeth: here is what else is happening, sir, i know you've seen this, anywhere one million, two million single moms, many of them minorities, many have to stay out of work to watch children at home because the kids are not in school. this is creating poverty in real time. that is the issue. people in, people are in a media bubble, they're in a d.c. bubble, they are so out of touch with what is going on in the
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streets of our country, what is going on in the heartland what is going on in rural communities, creating poverty in real time. it is outrageous what is happening. so when you see our property taxes still being paid for these salaries where they're not moving, getting on the stick to help our students, you got to ask yourself, was ronald reagan right to fire air traffic controllers when they wouldn't get on the job? should local governments do the same? >> i believe that if you have a teacher who is not performing or refuses to do their job, or who is performing poorly, they should be terminated. i know that is one of the biggest issues with the teachers union. they want to protect every teacher. i believe the overwhelming majority of public school teachers are outstanding. there are bad apples in every occupation especially teachers and they're protected with tenure. no one in the private sector has those types of protections. as a result of that tenure, they get away with things like we're seeing now, refusing to go back to work.
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unfortunately our kids are the losers in this situation. elizabeth: let me ask you something, do you think teachers are going to restaurants? are they going to the grocery store? are they hanging out in bars and pubs? are at the going to congregate in houses with other people? are they going to you know,. >> situations where you know, not wearing masks? are they doing that but not going to school? i have teachers in my family. we have a lot of teachers in my family. these teachers are working. also, parochial schools are open. catholic schools open. charter schools open. your final word, congressman? >> well i believe that again, most of the teachers especially in the rural districts which are coincidentally governed by republicans, they're open and they have been success stories but in these urban areas, in the blue cities where we have democrat leadership that are, you know, they're owned by unions. they continue to take the union
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demands and turn a blind eye. joe biden is perfect example. he was going to reopen schools the first 100 days. now he is saying if they're open one day a week, that is big win. very disappointing. >> that is already happening in school districts open one day a week. congressman comer, thanks for joining us. good to see you. come back soon. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: coming up congressman kelly armstrong with an update on this story, it's a mystery. it is a manhunt for who tried to poison the water supply of a city in florida that is just 15 miles outside of tampa. this happened within days of the super bowl. we'll get you the update there. stay there. ♪.
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hydroxide from 100 parts per million to 11,000 parts per million. the good news they caught it, nothing bad happened. the bad news is, they apparently got in the system twice, they were in there for five minutes and able to do this. i'm glad they're investigating. i hope all agencies are investigating. we don't foe in it was a foreign country or a guy sitting in his basement playing a prank. elizabeth: the fbi and secreted service is on manhunt for the suspect. it is same chemical used for drain cleaner. if coming out of after shower head it can burn you. the attacks on this type of infrastructure again and again, your thoughts? >> we do know who is regardless is responsible for this, russia has been probing our energy companies and electric utilities in 2012. in 2013 i ran a small dam upstate new york this is serious part of our infrastructure.
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i live in a place where it is 30 below real feel. being able to access those types of infrastructure remotely is incredibly important to our grid in north dakota and across the country t opens up us to severe cyber threats we have to continue to get a better hold of. elizabeth: a computer hacker took command of the computers in oldsmar, florida, and he did it, this person did it remotely. they tried to poison the water supply to ramp up effectively lye in it. what we're seeing, one study says that more than one 112,000 industrial control systems have portals on the internet. tens of thousands of them in the u.s. this is a wordwide problem. your reaction to how so many industrial complexes are now, are on the internet? >> well, again, like i said, for
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a lot of different reasons. i mean i've been in coal plants in north dakota and those different areas. what they're able to do with technology is fantastic. but we know for a fact that a lot of our different municipal infrastructures are soft targets for this. we also know our strategic adversaries in the world are always pinning those targets to figure out where they get in place. and i think the one in florida is actually a really good example of at the end of the day, if there was a person who realized their computer was doing something that it wasn't supposed to do and we got and they got ahold of it in time. but what do we do when it happens at 1:00 a.m. and the person isn't in to check that stuff until 7:00 a.m.? it's a real issue. i mean you know we talk about interconnectivity and intraconnectivity. one of the advantages we have like in municipal water systems there are 70,000 independent ones across the country. at least when it comes to water
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hopefully we can keep them localized as we continue to become more robust at being better at defending these attacks. elizabeth: you know, with he understand that you know, there are redundancies in the system. that you pointed out that it is decentralized, nearly 70,000 separate utilities. this is like the electoral college system where that could be hacked. let me back up, where the voting system can be hacked run by a local university system and voting system in the state getting a volt for election in the state. that happened in i believe north carolina where you know, that was hacked because they had a portal on the internet. so you know, how do you close those doors? remember cyberattack in atlanta, georgia where city workers had their computers shut down a few years ago, including workers at utilities? your final word on this? >> right. those soft attacks like the solarwinds which we know is
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russian intelligence, chinese hacked, emails at treasury. those are bad enough. where we have to deal with the hard infrastructure ones. at some point in time, it doesn't take an electric grid on the east coast to be down for very long before it causes utter and mass chaos for a lot of citizens who live up and down the seaboard. it is something as we're talking about infrastructure which is something seems to have bipartisan support, cybersecurity as we develop these critical infrastructure has to be serious part of that conversation. elizabeth: okay. congressman kelly armstrong, thanks so much for joining us. come back soon, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> sure. we're coming into the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. still ahead, california gubernatorial candidate john cox with us on president biden now supporting california governor gavin newsom against that effort to recall him. look at this, a growing number of california voters including democrats and independents say, yes, recall governor newsom. we'll break it down next.
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and i just couldn't have done it without them. ♪. elizabeth: joining me now is republican california gubernatorial candidate john cox is back with us. john, great to see you. >> great to be with you liz, thank you. elizabeth: okay. now president biden opposes the effort to recall democrat california governor gavin newsom but, got california democrats and independents saying yeah, recall him. how bad is it in california that you got to recall the governor? >> pretty bad, liz. let me tell you, aside from the pandemic shutdown, i mean the kids are still not in school.
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they're not in their activities. i worry about my own 15-year-old and emotional and mental well being of all of our kids as well as falling a year behind in school. small businesses have been crushed, some of them may not reopen. i mean that is discuss absolutely tragic if you worked your whole life to build up a business. vaccine distribution. glad you had jim justice on. jim justice is businessman. he went to the pharmacies to distribute the vaccines. he has 90% distributed, liz! here we're barely at 60%. we've got two super sites. he is developing another super site as if people want to drive down to the stadiums and all traffic and waiting. jim justice got it out in the pharmacies. that 30%, liz is life and death and people of this state have had enough of the corruption and mismanagement and the hypocrisy. they want a change and this
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recall is being supported by independents and democrats, a lot of them, in addition to republicans. elizabeth: we're seeing one estimate showing that indicating that democrats submitted nearly 10% of the petitions and voters unaffiliated with any party they are turning in almost a quarter of the petitions. it would -- >> totally. elizabeth: second time in less than 20 years a recall has taken place in california. a lot of reasons you have to recall governor newsom. we'll show you what you're hearing, what is in california, regardless who the governor is, you have to deal with sacramento. arnold schwarzenegger had a hard time dealing with sacramento. >> he did. i will do what ronald reagan did, go around the legislature and go directly to the people. reagan didn't have the congress and senate, he got things done. how did he do that? he went to the people. he explained things to them. here is what we have to do.
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how we get where we are to where we need to be. that is what i've done in business for 40 years. i've said we got to build bridges from where we are to where we need to be. i think the people will understand that. the last thing we need are these career politicians who just are all politics. elizabeth: how are you going to get around sacramento? what will you do, propositions, you know on the ballot? >> no. elizabeth: if you win what are you going to do? you can't lower taxes on your own. you can't lower the regulatory regime on your own. how can you do it? >> well, listen, i do have a lot of power. i will use executive authority as much as i can, liz, but i will have the bully pulpit. you know reagan used that to good effect. it worked. he got a lot of democrats to go along with things he knew needed to be changed. he got defense, tax cuts, got things done. that is what i'm going to do. the first thing i do if i'm
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elected liz, dealing with the pandemic, getting businesses open, getting kids back to school, debt getting vaccines distributed, i will call a special session for housing. we have to build lower cost housing. we have to reduce the cost of living. we have to make sure we have enough electricity. we have to make sure we have enough water and public safety. >> i get it. how will you get the businesses back? oracle left. palantir left. tesla's elon musk left. hewlett-packard enterprises left. how will you get them back? >> it is called leadership, liz. called having built a business for 40 years. i understand why businesses are leaving. i understand why government is so inefficient and wasteful. it is because of the corruption of special interests. that french laundry dinner was about meeting with lobbyists, giving in to them. the same thing with this you know, mayor faulconer and his doing shady land deals with donors. the people want integrity.
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they want competence. they want management. they want somebody who will be honest and transparent. that is what i'm going to deliver. i got to tell you, don't underestimate the power of voters to actually weigh in with this legislature to make sure they understand that the job needs to get done and things need to get done better in this state. elizabeth: all right. well, i'm just curious how you will do it without sacramento's buy in. you just can't change regulations and taxes on your own? >> it won't be easy, liz, let me tell you, we'll elect legislators that will get the job done. that is ultimately what happened with reagan as well. he went around, i will help elect people that will get the job done. elizabeth: all right. good to see you, john cox. thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you, liz. really appreciate it. thank you. elizabeth: same here. coming up retired army lieutenant colonel james carafano on this new warning from experts. they're saying this. that china's biggest telecom huawei is now doing a major
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pressure campaign on the biden administration. huawei wants to put its 5g networks inside of america's telecom infrastructure. security warnings about that. there is also this. the biden administration yank ad trump rule that would have blocked china's inroads into u.s. universities in order to steal u.s. r&d. the story next. >> russia used cyber war are fair to shut down the electric grid in ukraine during the war with ukraine. we don't want any foreigner, adversary to do anything like that for america's grid. if anything needs to be self-reliant it ought to be our grid. ♪ racle-earmini- a nearly invisible hearing aid from the brand leader in hearing aids. new miracle-earmini. so small and comfortable that no one will see them, but you'll notice the difference. call today to start your 30-day risk-free trial.
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♪. elizabeth: okay. let's welcome back to the show retired army lieutenant colonel james care fawn nope. great to -- carafano. great to have you back on. the we hear from economists
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security experts from the biden administration, they're questioning is the biden administration strong enough to step up to pressure from china? >> i think the number one issue to address this on is huawei. will the biden administration compromise on the past administration's effort to keep huawei out of the u.s. telecom infrastructure and that is absolutely so vitally important. china's goal is to be the world information superpower. how they do that, they want pipes to hoover up all information, they will used advancements in artificial intelligence, quantum computing, to figure out how to use the data to benefit china and against everybody else. if you allow huawei to build the telecom infrastructure in the united states, essentially what you're doing is building the information superhighway to take that, all that information directly back to beijing. so if i were watching this administration and their commitment to protecting u.s. and competition with china, the
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number one thing i would be looking at is, what are they doing to keep huawei out not just here, but friends and allies in latin america. we've already lost most of africa. the chinese are heavily leveraging countries in latin america t does no good to protect our own telecom infrastructure if everybody we talked to and work with they're owned by the chinese. elizabeth: there is that. the incoming commerce secretary, gina raimondo says they will be on restrictioned trade list. there is worry that won't map. huawei is suing the u.s. to take them off the restricted list. let's move on to this story. the biden administration is pulling a proposed rule that would force universities, colleges, k-12 schools to disclose any financial ties or connections to chinese state run confucius institute which is
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inside of state universities. can you talk about that? >> first of all let's recognize this is a real issue. we see it in the united states, we saw data just a year ago where 90% of the chinese connections and universities went unreported in the united states. we just saw huge es poe say in the united kingdom where the chinese are operating in many universities, hoovering up all kinds ever data, taking it back to china, many of it directly benefits the defense industry. i will give you a perfect example. china today is one of the world leaders in building hypersonic weapons. the reason they are is, they went into the american universities, they didn't steal this stuff. they went into american universities because we were the technological leader. they got the people to give them all the information and they took it back to china. so it's a real issue. now the administration's defense on this in particular is that, well the rule was not complete. it hadn't gone through omb and
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formally become a rule. therefore like every rule they want to review it, right? okay. but again, this is something to watch. if they don't start to impose restrictions on chinese instill infiltration of u.s. universities we're not seriously competing with the china. you can't be a burglar and lock the door but leave the windows open. china is seriously undermining our competitive advantages and threatening our own national security. elizabeth: retired army lieutenant colonel james carafano. thanks for joining us. great to have you back on. come back soon. we love perspective and insights. former cdc acting commissioner mark morgan. new fears of drug cartel policies as the war gets militarized. the biden administration says
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>> to give let's welcome commissioner mark martin pregnant let's just first talk about this. how dangerous and violent it is just south of the border, right over the border. the cartels using military level hardware including ied is to blow up other cartels armored vehicles. are you hearing about this. and how increasingly dangerous as a getting there. mark: look liz, and firstly, this is not nothing new. this has been happening for quite some time. this really tells us that the cartels, they're just as powerful and effective as they have been. and you can argue now because of what is happening on the immigration side, they've now reopened and reinvigorated businesses. and some have been removed. so just about the cartels buckling. is also human smuggling aspect
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of this as well. so course, right now they are fighting. it is not a single thing that crosses the mexican border into the united states that the cartels don't own. so my neck of their fighting over those drug routes, you human trafficking routes. as we are seeing an increase in violence now because they are back in business. liz: and the gun trafficking as well forget it but press secretary today say that that the vast majority of border crossers will be turned away. some serious promise. because the biden administration is opening to new facilities at the border to handle the influx. near the tip of texas. they really going to turn them away. mark: she's misleading this unit is not based in reality. the truth is that she is confused. that's what was happening in the trump administration. with the tools policy that we had. we effectively address the illegal migration flow . and by
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2020, we had reduce the flow by 75 percent by february 2020. the biden administration, he has removed everything a tool and policy including mpp, and mexico program which enabled us to catch and release. he and she ended that program. so the only thing, 3500 today. those are crisis level #the anybody's definition. but the only reason why is a catastrophic crisis right now is because of the cdc order, title 42 which is still in place allows us to remove the majority of people. but this, that order is not going to be here forever. in the moment that please, we will see that 3500 become a catastrophic crisis because there were both forced to allow these individuals into the united states. liz: we keep saying this time and again, this country is about humanitarianism. and about legal immigration and keeping people safe.
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that's with the u.s. is. this is not about immigration. this is about crime. so were sing this in laredo, and reported the offenders found in this whole group of border crossers who were discovered in texas. in the major human trafficking album happening in different sectors of the border. you know this mark . poor migrants, these poor migrants have to sell everything and then, they're beholden to these human smugglers to pay back with a charged. to get them across the border. it is the century serious issue . now we have mexico expediting a drug trafficker. what we are following here is a crime. this will be tracking here the evening and it . your reaction to that. mark: i appreciate it. because you're bringing this to
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light . and you continue to do so. were not talking about enough. we were shepherding in a new era now. united states government encouraging and facilitating illegal migration. breaking our country's laws, the sovereign laws of this incredible nation. it is unbelievable. if you do not apply consequences to illegal behavior, is only going to beget more illegal behavior. this what we see. with the 3500 and skyrocketed just in the last couple of months. they're still coming. when people say what is going to happen. it has already happened. we are already in an illegal migration crisis. or just lying the cartels pocketbook more because there back in business on this front. liz: mark morgan, it is great to see you and thank you again for joining us. it's good to see you for unit
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from elisabeth mcdonald the you've been watching the evening edit on foxbusiness. thank you so much for joining us. thank you for watching and have a good evening. join us again tomorrow night. this is fox business tonight rita president joe biden giving the appearance that he will be tough on communist china. the president reportedly scheduling his first golf with china's as early as today and meeting at the white house this evening will not yet confirmed . that's coming as biden also announced the pentagon task force. what will review the departments military and national security brush towards china. listen . biden: we need to meet the growing challenges the china in the indo

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