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weekend as well. be sure to join us here again on monday. thanks for watching "fox business tonight." have a great weekend. we'll see you. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: well, the new york nursing home scandal, it's exploding, it's going over the top. a close aide to governor cuomo admits on a recording the cuomo team did cover up thousands of covid-19 nursing home deaths because they were afraid the trump administration would slam them in a doj probe. privately, officials are saying trump was right all along about this. he has warned about this. the scandal is now here, and it's getting worse. we are digging into the documents. it is worse than you think. we've got janice dean, matthew whitaker, kt mcfarland, harmeet dhillon and tom homan with us tonight.
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bipartisan calls for governor cuomo to be impeached, that he resign, be removed from office, that he must give up or forfeit his emergency powers and be criminally prosecuted because of this stunning and possibly criminal abuse of power. it's actually not one, but two cover-ups. we're going to explain. cuomo's team is now trying to apologize to democrats but not apologizing to families, still blaming everyone else but cuomo's own order putting hospital patients back into nursing homes. we're going to take you to florida. a big fight there. governor ron desantis and senator marco rubio slamming president biden's potential florida travel ban as unconstitutional. we've got leaks on that out of the white house as a trial balloon for this. the republicans of florida saying, you know, you're just trying to punish florida. this is a political attack because governor desantis is a white house successor to donald trump. plus, another riot in portland. this now the tenth straight month of riots. even local officials now are fed up with the city's poor
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response. officials now reportedly rethinking -- yes -- trump's position on law and order. they're privately talking about that. antifa rioters now getting off with slams on the wrist, this as senate josh hawley's wife details the harrowing night protesters terrorized her family at their home while she was alone inside with their newborn baby daughter. also this, americans battling back against utter mayhem on the streets. look at this texas mom, she's getting cheers from coast to coast. she tackled a man. that guy was caught trying to look into her teenage daughter's window. also the world health organization's own advisers now saying the w.h.o. botching its investigation letting china cover up the possibility that china unleashed the covid-19 virus on the world due to an accidental laboratory leak. we've got more disturbing details on what's going on inside china. and even more biden administration changes at the border. critics are saying this is
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weakening trump's border security policies. democrats now demanding the biden administration put handcuffs on i.c.e. to stop i.c.e. from detaining alleged criminal illegal suspects. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. thanks for joining us. you're watching the fox business network. we have a bipartisan push that new york governor andrew cuomo ten down, growing calls -- step down, growing calls from lawmakers that he be impeached, resign, be stripped of his emergency powers and potentially even be criminally prosecuted for that stunning and possibly criminal abuse of power. the cover-up of covid-19 nursing home deaths. let's listen to governor cuomo earlier this year. >> whether a person died in the hospital or died in a nursing
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home, it's -- people died. people died. but who cares? 33, 28 died in a hospital, died in a nursing home, they died. elizabeth: joining me now is fox news senior meteorologist janice dean who's been the one pushing for this for so long, the find out what happened. because, janice, you lost both your in-laws in nursing homes due to covid-19. so who cares, people died. what's your reaction to the cover-ups here? >> well, we're not surprised, but i guess the fact that we had a democratic lawmaker as a whistleblower in that meeting the day before yesterday where he was participant of this secret meeting with melissa de rosa, the secretary of governor cuomo, who basically apologized to them for not giving them details on why they weren't
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releasing these numbers which is quite rich considering we've never received an apology from this administration. elizabeth: so you you know, janice, it's two cover-ups. the actual death toll now 15,000 from cuomo putting patients back in nursing homes. it's 15,000 and growing. and the actual number of hospital patients, according to the associated press, it's actually 9,000 were put back into nursing homes. that's 40% higher than they had reported. what to you say to that? -- what do you say to that? >> and i think the ap did their own research into how many covid-positive patients were put into nursing homes. so that's reporting on their side of it, not from governor cuomo's office. all of these details are things that we have been asking for for months, almost ten months now. and an independent, bipartisan investigation with subpoena power is something all of our
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families want to bring this governor and his administration to justice. i hope that this is a step in the right direction. elizabeth: so the top aide to governor cuomo, melissa de rosa -- you mentioned her -- admitting on that audio that they covered it all up on wednesday. she's privately apologizing to democrat lawmakers in new york saying, quote: we froze out of fearment we hid the true death toll because the trump administration would use it against us in a justice department probe. so that's -- president trump at that time, critics are saying he was totally right about what happened. do you think the biden administration is going to go after this? >> well, from what i see today in the reporting, president biden actually closed the case that the doj was working on, and i spoke to a senior official with the department of justice in december, and i asked them how the investigation was going, and they told me, quote: we haven't received anything from
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this administration. so she's lying there, the fact that they were getting all of their ducks in a row and they were, you know, helping the justice department with their investigation, that's a complete lie. elizabeth: janice, how can they -- so you're breaking news with us here. how can they, how can they drop the doj case and the probe, rather, that the trump administration started? because the public advocate from new york city is saying the most you're going to get a is a sorry we got caught, and no apologies for any of the families, and now they're asking new yorkers just to trust these decisions? >> yeah. and that's why i think, you know, this is just the beginning. we have to continue to be loud and raise our voices because if we don't, who will? and president biden needs to reopen that justice department case especially now that we have the proof that they've been covering it up the whole time.
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elizabeth: janice, talk to us about what happened to your family. >> my his' parents would have celebrated their 60th wedding anniversary yesterdayment they died in separate elder care facilities. the plan was we were going to have them together at an assisted living facility close to our home. their health was failing them. it was a decision that was very hard to make, but we did it because they needed 24-hour care. and his dad was in a rehab because he had health issues, he had dementia. we were getting him better to join his wife in the assisted living residence. covid came into play, we were quarantined, we couldn't see them. they died alone. we weren't able to go visit them, hold their hand, hug them. so these are the things that thousands of families are going through, and we just want answers. elizabeth: janice, were they separate, were they separate or were they together when they passed away in. >> they were separate.
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they were separate because mickey was getting rehab. they were getting him in better shape to join dee. but covid came in before that happened, and so he died in his nursing home facility. my his had to deliver the news over the telephone to his mom that her his had died, and then she died two weeks later. she got covid in her assisted living residence and died in the hospital. elizabeth: so when was the last time you and your husband saw your in-laws? >> well, we laos -- we lost mickey at the end of march, we lost dee the second weekend of april. we saw them before the quarantine which was in early march9 you know, we saw mickey, and we saw dee, and we were hoping to have them together. my husband talked to his mom and dad every single day, and when he drives home from work, he still feels the urge to call them. elizabeth: you know, it's so harrowing and it's so
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disturbing, what you and your family have gone through. and like thousands of other families, it's new york, it's other states too, janice. you know, when last you were on, you were calling for a commission. now people are calling for impeachment, resignation, criminal prosecution of governor cuomo. so what is your reaction to that, and what is happening here in new york and other states? >> well, i also want to speak up for the families that haven't seen their loved ones. governor cuomo has not allowed families to go and visit their loved ones in nursing homes. they're like they're in jail. and even people in jail can see visitors. so the fact that they are in these facilities by themselves and not knowing when their family members are going to come is harrowing. so there's two parts to the story. obviously, those that we have lost and those that are still with us but need to see their family members. and i want this governor to, you know, go through a trial and
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have to be on the stand and tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. not only the governor, but his health d.. we want answers -- health department. and if this is criminal, then he should go to jail. elizabeth: yeah. we've got republican lawmakers pushing for that. and you know what's interesting, 14 democrat state lawmakers say he should be stripped of his emergency powers. i think it's nearly a hundred emergency actions, and i think he's stopped, he's shut down hundreds of laws as well to do this shutdown. but this is an astonishing story. janice, we love having you on. we're going to have you back on to talk about this, we're going to stay on it. >> thank you, liz. i appreciate that. elizabeth: sure. coming up, we'll take you to florida. governor ron desantis and senator marco rubio now slamming the biden administration floating a trial balloon of a potential florida travel ban, travel restriction to florida. republicans say this is unconstitutional. you're just punishing florida. it's a political attack, they're
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saying, because governor desantis is a white house successor potentially for donald trump. west virginia governor jim justice with us next. ♪ >> there was some type of report about potential travel restrictions on americans and on floridians, and i just -- i think it's an absurd report that they would be doing that. i think it would be unconstitutional, it would be unwise, and it would be unjust. and if you think about it, restricting the right of americans to travel freely throughout our country while allowing illegal aliens to pour across the southern border unmolested would be a ridiculous but very damaging farce. so we will oppose it 100%. it would not be based in science, it would purely be a political attack against the people of florida. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ when it comes to your financial health, just a few small steps can make a real difference.
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elizabeth: welcome back. let's take you to washington, d.c. where attorneys for former president donald trump argued their defense to senators at his second impeachment trial. they're calling for trump's acquittal. let's yet to chad pergram with the latest. >> reporter: good evening, liz. the charge in this case is incitement of insurrection. that's the lone article of impeachment. president trump's attorney argued what happened at the capitol was not connected to his client. >> the fact that the attacks were apparently premeditated --
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as alleged by the house managers -- demonstrates the ludicrousness of the incitement allegation against the president. you can't incite what was already going to happen. >> reporter: the democratic impeachment managers disputed that. >> mob didn't come out of thin air. you tell somebody that an election victory is being stolen from them, that's a combustible situation. >> reporter: house impeachment managers built their case on horrific video from the assault on the capitol, and so today the defense counsel flipped the script. they played video of democrats encouraging attacks on gop officials. the defense rested today, and over the past few hours the senators have posed written questions. they use cards just like these. final arguments tomorrow and a vote to either acquit or convict president trump after that. liz?
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elizabeth: chad, thank you so much for the update. appreciate it. okay. with me now is west virginia governor jim justice. governor, let's go right at it. the transportation secretary is talking about, yeah, they may require covid tests before people can fly domestically, but this fight, governor ron desanities and senator marco rubio saying the white house threatening a florida travel ban is just a political attack. what do you say? >> well, liz, i probably concur whole hearted by with the florida governor and with our senator rubio. but, because, i mean, just try to make some sense out of this, you know? the just like we say, you know, with the flood of illegal aliens coming across the border and really, really i guess that's okay. but what we're going to do is we're going to put travel restrictions on or travel bans to a great state like florida and everything, it's just, it really just doesn't make a lot of sense. and when it really boils right
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down to it, if we don't watch out -- and i know we're a maul, little -- a small little state in west virginia, and i'm just a little old governor in west virginia, but with all that being said, i can tell you if we don't watch out and watch out real quick, things are going to start spiral, and they're going to start to spiral out of control, and we're going to have a real problem. elizabeth: what do you mean? >> well, i mean, there's just too many moving parts to where we are adopting radical change and radical change real quickly. and then those that are on the ultra-left are even pushing for more and more. and really and truly if we don't, if we don't get a rein on what we're doing, you know, it could get, it could get really tough. really tough. elizabeth: you know, senator rubio's saying it's ironic that joe biden called it xenophobic about the travel ban on china but then wants to do a travel ban on florida. this is a trial balloon.
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there's numerous leaks coming out of the white house to multiple media outlets. florida stayed open. schools are open in florida, covid cases are down per capita lower than the national average. your thoughts. >> we stayed open too. i mean, you know, when it really boils right down to it and everything, we had moments just like florida where we shut down certain things, but for the most part west virginia stayed open. and real and truly, the economics within our state have been phenomenally good from the standpoint of just keeping people open and keeping our essentials running and everything and keeping the engine going. but with all that right behind it and everything, our deaths are extremely low, and really and truly we're leading the nation in covid vaccination, and we're embarking right now on eliminating the income tax in west virginia. so there's a lot of good things going on in west virginia. and really i just, i i just -- all you have to do is just sit back and look at a lot of our cities and our states that are
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run by the other side of the aisle, and they've got real big problems and everything. i am a person who truly believes in respect for the presidency, and i want to wish president biden the very, very best, and i want nothing but goodness for him and america. and i'll work as hard as i possibly can to see that that comes about. but if we don't watch out, you know, this politics as usual and what all that's happening a within this country, it is going to end up a bad day for all of us. elizabeth: all right. governor jim justice, we'll stay on that and the news that you're going to try to wipe out the state income tax. we'll see, you know, you guys pulling in a lot of businesses potentially into west virginia and individuals as well. it's good to have you on, governor. come back soon, okay? >> you know, liz, thank you for everything. elizabeth: sure. coming up next, another riot in portland. yes, another riot. ten straight months of riots there. even local officials now fed up with the city's poor response. now officials reportedly rethinking trump's position on law and order, that president trump was right.
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antifa rioters now getting off with slaps on their wrists though. also this, americans battling back against utter mayhem on the streets. a texas mom getting cheered for tackling a man who was caught looking inside her teenage daughter's window. and we've got the wife of senator josh hawley's terrifying senator josh hawley's terrifying night with protester got another update from school. how's that...is that better? ♪ well we have a safety net. we'll be ok right? ♪ the lexus es, now available with all-wheel drive. this rain is bananas. lease the 2021 es 250 all-wheel drive for $349 a month for thirty six months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.
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and free premium delivery when you add a base. ends monday. elizabeth: let's welcome former acting attorney general matthew whitaker. it's great to have you back on. so riots again in portland wednesday night. rioters tried to break into the portland police association. people there are fed up, and we're hearing reports that they're rethinking that, yeah, president trump was right, you need law and order. ten months straight of riots, matthew. what to you saysome. >> yeah, liz. good to be with you tonight. what i see is really all americans want a civil society. they want law and order, they want peace and prosperity in their communities, and when there are these types of violent riots where law enforcement is unable to do their job, to arrest people and to make sure that the instigators are kept off the streets, i think this is
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exactly what you going to get in portland. and it's a shame, because i know many good people in portland are sick and tired of this situation, and they really want the police and the prosecutor to do their jobs and protect them. elizabeth: yeah. but the -- okay. we've got ls millions of dollars in damages to government buildings, to small businesses. taxpayers having to fund the bill for that. businesses leaving. critics are saying -- and antifa rioter, for example, got off. she pleaded guilty helping other rioters throw molotov cocktails and try to fire bomb government buildings, she only got probation. she's ordered to repay $46,000 in damages. unclear whether that will happen. but the local d.a., matthew, was saying, you know what? we're just going to slap on the wrist charges, ask we're not going to prosecute them and just let these rioters go. what do you say? >> well, and don't forget, these are the same types of arrests and rioters that the current vice president of the united states was raising bail money
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for. this prosecutor charges people with felonies, gets them to plead to felonies, and then they're sentenced to probation. that is not going to punish people for committing these types of crimes like throwing molotov cocktails at police, and it's also not going to deter future violent crimes because everyone knows that the turnstile at the county attorney's office and at the courts is just going to let them back on the streets. i think it's a really bad message to potential violent criminals and, ultimately, portland needs to implement a much stronger law and order philosophy if they're going to prevent future riots -- elizabeth: yeah. >> -- property damage and possibly loss of life, ultimately. elizabeth: yeah. 30 have been killed since the riots of last year. critics are saying too many politicians in d.c. deny riots are happening, too few rioters outside of d.c. are being held
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responsible. condemn all violence wherever it's happening. now we've got this, senator josh hawley's wife, emily, described a harrowing night of protesters showing up at their, at their private home. she was on, you know, fox this week. they had a seven-week-old daughter inside. she walked upstairs to see 20 protesters standing in front of the house shouting through bullhorns. she asked them to leave, they refused to leave. they yelled and pounded on her door. they were blocking her entire front porch. the police responded only after about 50 minutes, which is a really long time, and they, you know, they vandalized the home. they vapiddized the sidewalk in front. vandalized. i mean, one of the purposes of nighttime protests is to terrortize the people inside. >> right. they can't terrorize her and her newborn baby, and it's
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fascinating to me to see the members of congress that are just outraged at what happened on january 6th, and it shouldn't have happened, and those types of violent protests, criminal violence of any sort whether it's the right or the left, should never be condoned or encouraged, but they are ultimately silent when these types of confrontations happen. this is exactly what maxine waters was trying to get folks to do against members of trump's cabinet like myself, to confront them, to get in their face. and this style of protest should have nowhere in our civil society. again, if you disagree with senator hawley and his positions, there are many ways for you to lodge those disagreements from a policy standpoint. when it becomes personal, when you go after their families, when you create terror in the, you know, in his wife and with her newborn child -- elizabeth: yeah. >> -- i think, ultimately, again, the police need to support, you know, peaceful protest but at the same time make sure that terrorist acts
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aren't occurring to our elected officials. elizabeth: you know, let's watch this video again. it's more signs of mayhem on the streets of america. a texas mom tackles a man, he was caught looking inside her teenage daughter's window. she said she got home from a store around seven in the morning on january 31st, found the suspect staring into the window of her 15-year-old daughter. look at her take him down. this guy, he's 19, facing charges of possession of a controlled substance, evading arrest and resisting arrest. i don't know how he could have made an arrest with a mom like that taking him down. your to that story. >> well, i mean, unfortunately, you know, too often americans have to resort to vigilante justice because the police either aren't, you know, taking care of these types of is situations, or they can't can get there fast enough, the example of senator hawley's -- elizabeth: yeah, but you really
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think this is vigilante? this isn't vigilante justice, this is her -- >> well, i mean, it's her getting her own sense of justice. and, you know, i encourage this mom, she did the right thing. obviously, every child should be safe in their own bedroom, to be able to play in their front yard and, you know, with creeps like this guy, you know, leering in their window, i think there's just, you know, this mom did the right thing. elizabeth: yeah. the cops were there. looks like she was trying to help out the cops. you know, we're going to stay on stories like this. we like your insights, matthew, you're really good, and it's good to see you. come back soon. >> liz, have a good weekend, and i'll join you anytime you want me to. elizabeth: okay, great. we're at the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. coming up,kt mcfarland on critics warning the biden administration's tough talk on china, it's not the reality behind the scenes. we're going to talk to kt about the growing number of trump executive orders on china now
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elizabeth: let's welcome back former trump deputy national security adviser kt mcfarland, author of the book "revolution: trump, washington and we, the people." okay, kt, what's the biden administration's strategy on
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china? there's lots of tough talk, talk of action. is that true? >> well, they are talking tough. i mean, the president, the secretary of state and national security adviser, their talking very -- they're talking very tough, but their deeds don't match their words. for example, you know, they're talking tough about we're going to protect our intellectual property rights, we're going to hold china responsible, we're going to work with our allies, make sure we secure the supply chain. they canceled the keystone pipeline. who does that benefit? it benefits china. as the canadian ambassador once told me, look, we want to sell canadian oil to america, but if you guys don't want it, we're going to sell that same oil to china. and there are a number of other things, economic things, taking chinese companies off blacklists so they can now be inside our create call infrastructure, can be in our universities recruiting spies, stealing intellectual property rights. while the biden administration says we're going to be tough,
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they're doing just the opposite. in fact, they're giving away all the leverage that president trump's got on china, and it's to our great disadvantage going forward. elizabeth: yeah. now they're reviewing this $350 billion worth of tariffs on china. let's listen to the president on the campaign trail. you know, he's doing a 180, and let's listen to his press secretary now on china. watch this. >> china is going to eat our lunch? come on, man. they're going to, if we don't get moving, they're going to eat our lunch. >> and also you saw some of it play out yesterday in the review he announced at the pentagon. so it is currently playing out that we are not in a rush, and we are tree weeks -- three weeks in and, you know, our team is taking a very strategic approach to our relationship. elizabeth: okay. china's not going to eat our lunch, it is going to eat our lunch, but we're not taking a rush. break this down for us. >> yeah. the chinese are going to eat our breakfast, lunch and dinner, and
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they expect us to pay the bill for it. i write about this in great length in my book of how the chinese have exploited our generosity over the past 20 years and how they've taken advantage of us in trade, investment opportunities, intellectual property. and they're going to continue to do it. they call it wolf warrior diplomacy. they're very proud of it. they have every intention of replacing the united states within the decade as the world's dominant power in technology, in cyber technology, military, economy. and then they're going to change the rules. they're going to change the international rules. they're very open about it. they say we want the world to be reordered with chinese characteristics. so if the biden administration says, hey, man, we've got plenty of time, we're going to take our time and study it, well, let's put a fire under this because they don't have a lot of time. and by continuing to kind of ignore, belittle or really be portfoliofully blind to the chinese -- willfully blind to
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the chinese threat, every day they do that they're putting the united states in the greater jeopardy. elizabeth: so president biden cuts oil and gas jobs, gets rid of the keystone pipeline. china has a big belt and road push to dominate the world in energy infrastructure and more, but biden's son hunter makes money overseas with china? can you explain this one? >> no. and i think they ought to explain. so canceling the keystone pipeline, it's not just that, liz. it's basically banning fracking in the united states. president trump called me last weekend, and we talked about china. and he said, you know, kt, you understood right from the beginning it was all about american energy independence, and then we would have options, we could deal with china. he said, you know, the chinese never would have pushed me around like they're pushing joe biden around, the talk tough, the talk tough -- the chinese president saying to biden, you know, if you want to get into a cold war, a trade war, there could be a conflict, you better back down. so the chinese are talking tough.
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the biden administration are talking tough. the chinese are acting tough, and the biden administration, you know, well, is there a reason hunter biden is still in a financial relationship with chinese energy companies? why hasn't he unwound it? there's no excuse for this. elizabeth: so what else did president trump say to you? >> well, we talked about a number of things, mostly we talked about foreign policy. we talked about, well, we talked about the europeans, we talked about the middle east, but we spent a lot of time talking about china. i should point out, he does most of the talking. i just nod and say yes every now and then. but he sounded terrific. he did not sound like a guy who was worried about the political, you know, scandals of the day or even the impeachment trial. he really had his eye on the main u.s. foreign policy and economic policy goals, and he knew -- and he credited me with knowing -- that it was all about getting the american economy working again. and then we would be in a position whether it was with the europeans, with the russians,
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with the saudis, the israelis, the iranians and the chinese to really promote an america first policy. my worry is that joe biden, he's slipping back to the good old days of the obama administration, and it's a globalist policy. it's an american last foreign policy. elizabeth: all right. kt mcfarland, thanks for joining us. it's good to see you. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: okay. next up, we're going to stay on china. it's about getting china to tell the world how exactly did it let the covid-19 virus spread like wildfire. the world health organization's own advisers, however, saying the w.h.o. is now botching its investigation into that. we're going to explain it next with harmeet dhillon. ♪ ♪
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elizabeth: okay. the biden administration buying 200 million more covid-19 vaccines from pfizer and moderna. the push is on to try to get america vaccinated possibly by the summer, possibly hopefully through drugstores like cvs, walgreens and others. but how did we get here? how is the american taxpayer and how are americans -- why are they suffering from this? it's because of the china covid-19 virus and the cover-up of it. let's bring in harmeet dhillon. it's so great to have you back on. so the w.h.o.'s own advisers now saying the w.h.o. is botching this investigation because it's letting china cover up the possibility it was from a laboratory leak? what do you say? >> well, i think scientists have been saying this all along, and i think it's notable that now even the world health organization scientists are stepping up and saying this. what china has been doing since the beginning is obfuscating the results of its own
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investigations. it's refusing to turn over the raw data that would allow other scientists to independently verify the conclusions that china came to a year later. evidence has been destroyed, water samples, blood samples, and other samples have been destroyed making it impossible for anybody to really replicate what they are saying. so you have really at the world health organization a political organization. it is not a scientific organization, it is sort of, you know, governed by its member states. china has a heavy hand there, and it is reaching political conclusions. and so i think it is very important for everybody to understand that and insist that scientists be given the data that they need. otherwise, we're never going to get to the bottom of what happened here, and we are certain to have it happen again which'll be terrible for the world economy, not to mention human life. elizabeth: yeah. we hear what you're saying. now critics are saying the w.h.o. director is only paying lip service to say, yeah, now we are going to try to look into whether it did leak out of a
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lab. you know, china has had a history, the w.h.o. itself are has reported they wouldly viruses escaping from chinese laboratories. it happened twice. in 2004, the sars virus got out from chinese institute of virology-beijing. two lab workers infected, then china shut down a lab, 200 lab workers quarantined. so there's a history already here of accidental leaks. you've got a lot of connections, you talk to a lot of experts. what is their belief, what is your belief of what really happened? >> look, i'm not a scientific expert. what i can tell you though, the fact that china keeps changing its story, this week's story we've seen in the "wall street journal" is that they're trying to spread the story that the virus came from frozen food from abroad into china when experts postulate that it's most likely to have leaked from that virology lab in wuhan on animal experimentation. i believe what's most likely
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rather than far-fetched theories that point the finger at other countries. elizabeth: all right. thank you so much. this is a really interesting story, it's us a great to get your insights and perspective. march meet till loan there, it's good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up, retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan on even more biden administration changes critics say are weakening trump's border security policies. it's going as far as this, democrats now demanding the biden administration put handcuffs on i.c.e. to stop i.c.e. from working with local authorities to detain alleged criminal illegal suspects. the story next. the story next. ♪ the story next. ♪ the story next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ when it comes to your financial health, just a few small steps can make a real difference. ♪ ♪ ♪
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elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan. tom, it's great to see you. your reaction to the biden administration again moving to weaken trump's border policies. it's now about the remain in mexico policy. yesterday -- or this week it was getting rid of the emergency order at the border. what is your reaction to all of this? >> every day i'm amazed of the uncompetence of this administration. every move they've made since he took office has put our country at risk, it has increased public safety concerns across the country. i said the other day we used to
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have sang sanctuary cities throt the country, now we have an entire country that is now a sanctuary city because of the actions of joe biden. he has basically abolished i.c.e. without really abolishing them. he just took 95% of the job away and cut their budget by $300 million. this is the agenda, and american people need to call their congressmen and start raising hell and ask for some action. elizabeth: you know, now we've got this, is the biden administration going to go along with what five dozen house democrats are now demanding that president biden order homeland security to stop letting state and local police officers help i.c.e.. catch criminal illegal aliens? that going to happen? >> it better not. think about this for a minute, les. the department of homeland security was created on the heels of 9/11. and the 9/11 commission said many things, one of their main findings was law enforcement should be working with law enforcement.
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no more stove pipes. the communication and working partnerships need to be there. here's the department of homeland security, created because of 9/11, and they're going to stop law enforcement from working with law enforcement? they're going to put stovepipes back in? if they to that, it's in direct conflict with their mission. it'd be ridiculous. here's the president saying, well, i.c.e. needs to concentrate on the worst criminals. but you can't work with law enforcement? they're speaking out of both sides of their mouth. they're lying to the american people. this is about open borders and letting illegal aliens who are criminals walk our streets. there's no other reasonable explanation for what they're doing. elizabeth: well, senate republicans are trying to stop it, right? so it's unclear if the senate republicans can stop this. what do do you say? right now we see i.c.e. currently -- i think they're monitoring more than a million illegal immigrants have been ordered deported but have not left the u.s. yet, and we've got
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more than 2 million ordered deported, but they're fighting it out in court. how are senate republicans going to handle it? >> first of all, i talked to chip roy, he was behind the letter writing. the texas a.g.'s taken a lawsuit, i've actually filed an affidavit in support of the texas lawsuit suing the biden administration because my almost 345 years, liz, of doing this job -- 35 years, i know the results of these policies. more people will die because criminal aliens, we've talked many final times. they go and killed somebody, they've raped a lady, now the whole country is a sanctuary. this is going to result in more murder and more assault on american sides. and they -- citizens. let me be clear, the immigrant community don't want criminals in their neighborhoods either. because when we can't arrest a bad guy in jail, i.c.e. has to go into a community and find
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him. so these policies with the immigrant community, it puts them at greater risk of i.c.e. arrest. it makes zero sense. again, they're misleading the american people. elizabeth: yeah. we hear what you're saying. again, this isn't about immigration, this is about crime. you know, so now the biden deportation freeze means that if somebody's, you know, charged with crimes like drunk driving or simple assault or various drug crimes, you know, they're not deported. by the way, one study said there were 95,000 criminal illegals deported in 2018. with the biden deportation freeze 92,000 of them would stay. what's your reaction to that? >> i looked at data myself this week. 95% of the criminal targets i.c.e. would arrest are now off the table. they're protected by the biden administration. and as far as the dui, joe biden administration says duis are not a public safety threat even though 10,000 americans die every year from dui.
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when i was a police officer, they ought to see what i saw. i had to peel a young a lady off a tree in that died as a result of dui. they need to see that and feel that. elizabeth: all right. thank you, tom homan. i'm elizabeth >> a homemade hatchet man. >> oh, my god, this is not for real! >> it is. >> what are these meant to do? >> those could dismember people. >> an attic of axes... >> i was in shock because it was floor to ceiling axes, knives... >> cannons, guns. >> ready for an off-the-wall inheritance? >> i heard that they thought he was the unabomber. >> one day my mother has a knock on the door, and it turns out to be two fbi agents. >> leave it to cleaver. >> how many really great knife makers can do what he did? >> probably about forty or fifty... >> that's it? >> ...in the world. >> in the world? >> in the world. >> last call, for $2,750.

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