if you missed the show we have an encore presentation every weeknight at 7:00 p.m.. thanks for watching. this country will be on a roll if we just let it alone. i am kudlow, have a great evening. kennedy: if there's one thing we have learned about science over the last year at something that can be and banned in any direction that could benefit the user entirely politically or otherwise. there's no greater with pretoria contortionist than anthony fauci or who's become the expert on coronavirus yet he uses an objective term like science so subjectively it's almost like he's making things things up or just what dr. fauci said last march. he was following the science. >> people should not be walking around with a mask. kennedy: that's right and then he had this massive shift three weeks later.

>> putting a mask on yourself is more to prevent you from infecting someone else and if everybody does that we will each protect each other. kennedy: in the strata of frustration pretty low on the list. fauci was all over the map with the emotional toll it would take on people long-term. for many people a mask is a straitjacket and a constant reminder of the virus they are being lied to about. if we get enough people inactivated plus those who have contracted covid we are in good shape, right mathematically? >> you will need about 70% maybe 75% of the people in the country vaccinating to get that umbrella of herd immunity. i would say between 870 and 85% of the population. if we get that we will develop an umbrella of immunity.

kennedy: fauci admitted to "the new york times" he added a few percentage points to the upper end of the ultimate immunity number. enough people are going along with it. he has admitted he's making stuff up so why is he the guy in charge? it's clear the new demonstrations seeking to downplay her expectations by roping us into thinking we will be maskless and normal for another year. even the vaccine among us will be enjoying life any differently than we did before so what the hell kind of pitch for marketing is back? is the worst messaging ever for something that is utterly necessary for a return to normalcy. florida who is taking the gamble to forgo lockdowns will have a competitive advantage. their businesses haven't had the

layout the last of their employees. when things do open whatever that means florida will be shot out of a canon. what does dr. fauci duplex he criticized florida governor ron desantis for reopening schools when he should have been closely watching the florida model than advising other states to follow suit. in the end it affects dr. fauci very little. he doesn't have to leave his two kids in a hotel room while he works his shift at little caesars and he doesn't have the bag bankers and bureaucrats for a loan to keep the pattern of his business and business. he gets to shift with the winds enjoying an uninterrupted paycheck chuckling all the way to the bank or the fcc studios while hoodwinking desperate and skeptical americans who are ready to tell him to shove the science in his brown bunsen burner. so with the batting average like a pitcher where we expected to

just take dr. fauci's word as gospel? let's get into it with tonight supersmart panel realclearpolitics co-founder and executive editor. the correspond for "the greg gutfeld show" on "fox nation" kat timpf and strategies radio host and "fox news" contributor leslie marshall rounds out the panel. welcome everyone. i will start with you tom because people have grown beyond frustrated and now they are hearing from other doctors like marty makary and i introduce him last night. he wrote a great op-ed in the new york journal saying given the deaths of these new covid numbers and how fast they are falling how many people are being inoculated and how many people who contracted covid without even knowing it are returned to normalcy could be as early as this spring. people hear stuff like that and they are like why are we only listening to one guy would clearly there could be a

difference of opinion on the spectrum. >> right and there are a lot of components to this. fauci is the preeminent expert in these been in government for a long time but the media has used him as this tooth fairy and everything he said was to be taken as gospel and that's the question and there would be no dissent, no other alternative and fauci now this is a virus we'd never seen before so he is making it up as he goes along but more partly he is a vero at just. he is a bureaucrat. he is not a therapist and he doesn't understand a lot of the other aspects of this crisis. so for those reasons i think it was a mistake to rely on him and the media props him up as the first and last word when in fact he even he now admits he was fudging the numbers as they went

along to enhance the narrative that he wanted to present to the american people. kennedy: we have to realize a lot of this is ongoing. a lot of this is evolving and lay people don't understand that doesn't mean pat that we have to subscribe to one persons opinion as gospel because a lot of that especially was opinion looking at serious data and trying to make sense of it. there were differences of opinions and now those differences have greatly affected people's lives. i look at this and why would you get the vaccine if it's not going to do you any good? where has the skepticism than? >> i think a lot of people, this is a huge ask. this has been a year of our lives with no end in sight and he said of course on monday hey just because you're vaccinated

you shouldn't go eat indoors. we need to protect a sick calls it the safety of society. what others me about that is the implication that not doing those things to protect the safety of society because it doesn't. we were not a society at all and we have been in the society. a society is a group of people that anoraks socially on a regular basis. it's not people and their individual homes or their individual apartments. you can't keep saying we need society. we have lost society entirely and that's something that us as human beings not just for meant to help the physical health as well. kennedy: i think about some of these lockdowns. i haven't seen my parents in 15 months the longest i've ever gone without seeing my mom and i can't wait to get back home and see my family leslie. when you look at the numbers in

california and the numbers in california and texas, sorry in florida and texas and i don't know if your kids are in school. i hope they are. kids in lausd or not and kids in middle and high school in new york city or is bill -- they will be lucky if they go one day a week before september. your thoughts? >> pat you know i love you but when we talk about we are over it i'm sorry. i hear from the health care side of things. there over it. they are over not having enough latte bags. >> they are is an economic crisis and i understand the seriousness of the health aspect of it. it's not the only thing to think about it because these other

things have physical health implications including early death. >> they should have been taken care of. to answer your question grades three through six will go back mid-march and cater to our back depending on where because in san diego opened up four days later 100 kids had to be quarantined because they came into contact with someone else and we don't know for was a child or an adult that covid. fauci is an and all be all but the problem with covid for medical scientists everyone who's giving us information cdc and i each fauci my husband everybody out there. >> do not say everybody because all it takes is one differing opinion from the former head of the cdc. >> there are many different opinions.

>> they do not differ on things like how it's transmitted which is within our nose and her mouth and the belief that the mask went over your face can prevent those droplets from getting to someone else. >> droplets know nothing of lockdowns and therefore when you have a lot down in one state in no lockdown in the other states and the numbers are the same that means that the lockdowns in the name of safety are not working and that's why people are mad and rightly so. they have been lied to. in order for government to state control. a new marist poll says 41% of new new york voters think governor andrew cuomo has done something unethical in his handling of nursing homes to the pandemic. 19% say he did something illegal illegal and now the governor is trying to do more damage control starting friday. he says he will allow some visits to nursing homes in certain areas of families kept

apart by his rules from the year. he should have been doing the opposite and a quick surface of the governor speaking in may about how he would never take such stances with his own mother >> if i were advising a friend i would say you have a vulnerable person. it's best to keep them at home and not put them in a congregate facility. keep them in a situation where you have the most control. that is the blunt truth. that's what i would do with my mother. kennedy: if only he would have employed that blunt truth to other people or by next guest is urged by republicans to challenge cuomo next year. is he the one to fix this mess and will he try and put the fourth term republican lee zeldin welcome to the show.

it's getting a little spicy but we like to keep things hot here. how's it playing out for the governor? is he doomed or is he going to triumph? >> i think what is different right now is you're hearing from a lot of democrats speaking up in the past you've had republicans trying to hold governor cuomo hold governor cuomo's feet to the fire and hold them accountable but right now whether it's him with her congressional candidates and democratic candidates and legislators speaking up about the bullying the vindictive approach towards governing and the ramifications as you are pointing out is the result of the governor's policies and then the cover-up and the dishonesty. he said he didn't have enough time to provide the information because he was too busy yet the governor was saying the reason they weren't providing information wasn't that they were too busy but they wanted to

block a department of justice investigation and oh by the way the governor were the self-congratulatory book on leadership. what is different here is the governor's third term and possibly running for a fourth term it sounds like he's intent on that is seeking blow back not just from republicans but his own party. kennedy: it does feel different and obviously there are a lot of republicans in the state assembly who have been vocal and now you have no only ron cam calling for his impeachment and governor de blasio that no one cares about an aoc is saying he needs to be investigated basically saying what you are saying. are you the guy to unseat him and his impeachment work as quickly as it might in a place like california? >> first off you point out the investigations. you're talking about the impeachment call for the state legislature may reign in the governor's emergency powers and the fact is this issue is a lot

vaguer than just a nursing home directives because we have people fleeing the state due to the loss of freedoms. you just got into that in your last segment with many ways whether it's your kids being impacted with the amount of time that variable to get inside of a classroom or a small business or if that's going to folder other dynamics that make people feel like other states would have a lower cost of living and lower taxes or maybe more public safety and all the tests fail that went into effect a year ago and the department in new york city. i believe that the feeling of new yorkers right now is an urgency that they have to save their state. kennedy kennedy: are you the guy are you going to run for governor? >> i've been encouraged to consider and i know two things for sure. one thing is that i know that whoever the candidate is and all

do everything in my power to help them to make sure governor cuomo doesn't get a fourth term in the other thing i know for sure is the next step is talking to my wife and my twin girls 14-year-olds at home because we need that right balance. i'm not going to come on tv right now but for making sure my family is in with that and whether you were in the media or elected office you have to have that right talents between home life and work life. those are the two things i know for sure. kennedy: i will be curious to see out this pans out and obviously am a lover of liberty. if in fact he run you have to promise one, to legalize marijuana get behind that and never two bring the casinos to times square. my cat need something to do on thursday night other than two drinks. >> the casino in times square i don't know if you could can put an entire governor's campaign behind it but if kennedy was running for mayor or governor i could see it.

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katie pavlich. a great job. not great news about what this president tents to do in terms of gun control. what's most problematic for you here? >> what is problematic is the biden white house is not leaving the room on the issue of gun control. last year we have record numbers in terms of the number of purchases. 40% of gun purchases last year were first-time gun owners and they aren't your typical ratio stereotype white guys who are buying these firearms for these women and it went up 50% of african-americans buying guns over the previous years so it's very diverse in terms of who are dying to guns and they are come in as there has been a record number of sales and therefore we need to back down on a pretty thing people in congress know legislatively won't get done

which makes it more dangerous because we have executive action being taken through the justice department so remember in the obama administration dad operation choke point where they pressured banks and they pressured transactional services to not go through with gun purchases or to freeze the assets of gun companies and of course if you can get your hands on a firearm that's an infringement on second member rights. we have a new build the house where you have to be mentally fit to on a firearm but what is the definition of back? if you're a libertarian is john brennan weren't about this that make you unqualified to on a firearm? kennedy: that's what i found to be very problematic is mental illness is such a broad term and that was launched into the legislation imposed in the house. you also have the same old distinction about weapons by people who know nothing about weapons.

the idea of weapons of war and assault rifles which are cosmetic distinction that they don't really do anything. >> they tried to own the language on this so they use the term assault rifle and they use the word weapons of war into scaring people on their infringement in the 2nd amendment. they don't call themselves gun control groups anymore they call themselves gun violence prevention groups and they think if they lump all the people who want higher rooms into the same category and vicki calling for background checks. let's remember on record 22 million new purchases were made last year and every single one of them went through an fbi back around check. kennedy: there is no such thing. >> you get it mailed to your door were just not sure but a pandemic change that and all the an arrest flat steer had a lot

of people going to gun stores and getting frustrated they couldn't just walk out the door with their new firearm because there was a waiting trade. people are waking up to all the restrictions that an pun -- been put on them. my fear fears what they do with the regulation changes. kennedy: what about going after ammo? >> with her a lot about ammunition something that president biden supports in the house don't referred about not being able to get ammunition across state lines if you live in a place that doesn't have an ammunition factory for example of the camp hyatt in other states so they are going after ripping make an but what you said about the mental health acts that is how do you prove someone is quote unfit to on a firearm? kennedy: if the police had been defunded in your town whether seattle or minneapolis how are you going to protect yourself and your family? i just want to know that. if there's a 30 minute lag time

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kennedy: the $1.9 trillion covid belief will democrats want to pass this friday is as much as a relief as hot dogs or vegetables. at least that's what some vizco conservator sankar the bidens backed bill promises expensive spending projects to democrat

lou states and cities and that's without senate budget committee chair bernie sanders planned to put in a 15-dollar an hour minimum wage mandate that opponents of the blending bill say it's not fair to red states will be hit with attacks for budget shortfalls in places like new york illinois and california. should states that crush their own economies get rewarded with a big government a lot? joining me republican congressman and house budget committee member ben cline. welcome represent a client. >> it's nice to be with the candy. kennedy: if you earn a place like florida or south dakota and you have opened up your state and let people work hard and smartly and you have the tax receipts why should you be paying for the economies that were annie shutdown unfairly and b mismanaged before the pandemic? >> the american people see this for what it is a $1.9 trillion bailout but it's a bailout for mismanagement democrats for this is not a covid belief no one

only person of the bill goes to covid programs. the democrat governor and some would say governor newsom in california governor cuomo as you were just talking about could use a little bit of relief from the troubles they have back home and i know something coming from virginia about governors in trouble. we need a bill that focuses on covid focuses on getting vaccines in the arms and opening up our economy. only 5% of this bill and the money that goes to schools opens up schools this year. kennedy: why the urgency? that's what i don't understand. i talk about this on the show almost every night. there a lot of frustrated parents out there and i am among them whose kids are still learning remotely. if the schools aren't open and they aren't spending money and not spending this money then why is that much money earmarked other than a handout to teachers unions?

>> gavin newsom has to survive a recall election so nancy pelosi put in billions for some kind of high-speed rail in california that's the kind of thing that is being shoved into this bill and it's being real routed through the house by pelosi and bernie sanders wants even more money a socialist bill on steroids. we need to turn around and focus on the people who are in trouble right now the people who are out of work and the people who need assistance with covid getting these vaccines have been distributed to the public. everyone needs a vaccine who wants one. we should be able to give it to them. kennedy: it's really frustrating because there a lot of seniors and i talked to family members and friends and others who say their parents in grandparents cannot get their hands on a vaccine and you hear story to story about entire batches having to be thrown out as the rollout has been mismanaged in

the states that oversaw the writing of this massive bill and there is no accountability. i know joe manchin has been very vocal in his opposition to the minimum wage mandate but how does he feel about the rest of the bill and will king joe say the economy? >> is very interesting behind-the-scenes you are going to see manchin's hanzell of this bill. bernie sanders is claiming as budget chairman that he's in charge but when it comes down to it even mitt romney called this thing a clunker in which when mitt romney calls it a clunker you have to take it back to the shop and work on it more. kennedy: he's very serious about spending money and pretending not to be a republican which is fine. matt romley is the weirdest guy. that's been said to me many times. how does this soap opera and?

>> unfortunately nancy pelosi calls the shots here in the house and she is going to ram this thing through because she scared of the aoc and scared of the squad so she knows she has to push it through and it's going to come down to joe manchin and hopefully the american people can put up enough of a fight to stop this and refocus it on the people who need it and delivering aid for covid. kennedy: republicans have to remember the cost cutters again and i know it's going to be tough for you guys but someone has to do it. congressman cline thank you so much. how do democrats plan to pay for all this new spending? we do taxes of course but today the nonpartisan tax foundation said the biden planned hike on taxes is -- will kill more than 150,000 jobs and reduce wages for those who are still employed. that is after secretary to treasure janet yellen said this

week biden has a rich portfolio tax plans to offset the cost of the spending ambitions. she said the president is ready to raise the corporate tax rate 20% after former president trump/to down a 21 and 2017. how could these bright ideas affect your wallet? joining me to break it down wealth management chief investment officer and "fox news" contributor scotty martin is back. >> we call him not a scotty. >> not a scotty and hot under the caller with janet yellen's administration plans. janet yellen boys and girls is one of those out there fanning the flame for more spending so she's like oh no problem i'll just go to joe's office and tell them to start hiking taxes everywhere because i'm telling you to spend all that money first off. kennedy: we will just. more.

it will be great and we are not on the hook for anything. obviously the corporate tax rate looks like it's going to go up 7%. they are talking about a capital gains tax. which would be worse for the economy? >> they are both bad. the corporate tax rate is strictly impactful because they are basically corporations across-the-board and what's so funny about the corporate tax rate kennedy being on the docket for potential change is this is an administration and the federal reserve and the janet yellen treasury secretary that talks about how low we are on job growth and how troublesome wage growth is out there. you have the minimum wage for spare putting on businesses but here mr. and mrs. corp. we will help you by raising the taxes you pay to the government. talk about misplaced opportunity here. there was one i would choose from my guesses the capitol gains tax would be better for

corporate tax rate because people would have to sell and there would be gains to help pay for some the tax rates that would be going up on that side versus hitting businesses that are have been kicked by the government. kennedy: absolutely and they are the last ones to get relief. the big news is they know how to contact bankers and lawmakers. they know how to move to the front of the line. so smaller mom-and-pop businesses that are up silly going to get host here and there is still no real way even if they implement all of these taxes. has no one seen what happens in a high-tech environment quickset none of them read about the state of economic policies in places like france? >> well they certainly -- because we have great evidence of what exactly happens into your point about the small business candidate that has suffered so much hasn't the government gun and -- done

enough for small business in america shutting them down putting all these restrictions on the month how they can do their business? isn't that enough quote help unquote so far. think about this for small justice entities in this country. or than half the jobs into your point earlier half the gdp that this country produces so we are going to tax those people morant say hey good luck take care as we come out of this covid thing whenever. i don't think it smells very well. kennedy: no one is going to build the smell because it's like getting punched in the gut and socked in the people will be winded and covered in blood. scotty martin. >> we did try. kennedy: what happens to inflation with rates being held so artificially low? >> i love when you asked me these exciting questions awaited night. i don't think it's that big of a deal because this is a different inflation worry than we've seen with rates bubbling up.

i tell folks if you can't do your refi sooner than later because some mortgage rates are going up as well. there is not a tremendous amount of inflation is of inflation as we is a known place because that money is not doing people go just yet. kennedy: scottie. a community professor is going viral. it's not a habit it's all about liberty. i (judith) at fisher investments, we do things differently and other money managers don't understand why. (money manager) because our way works great for us! (judith) but not for your clients. that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. (money manager) so, what do you provide? cookie cutter portfolios? (judith) nope, we tailor portfolios to our client's needs. (money manager) but you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right? (judith) we don't have those. (money manager) so what's in it for you?

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a healthy work and life balance. the knee-jerk reaction from a lot of the country was what they -- and we hear asked a little more thoughtful than average bear unlike professor carl hart this is a story about liberty. the professor writes quote there are many things in life that i enjoy more than a few lines at the fireplace by the end of the day. he goes on to say the drug war has been a failure and as long as people aren't hurting anybody adults should be free to consume whatever mind altering substances they choose. journeyman out columbia university professor of psychology and psychiatry and doctor of drug use for grown-ups chasing liberty in the layers of fear. that is a must-read book. welcome back to the show dr. carl. c thank you for having me kennedy. it's good to see you again as always.

kennedy: we had a lovely conversation of the day and i've been thinking about what you've been talking about on the podcast and my question for you and this exploration of what psychoactive substances to do the brain and how they are molecularly similar to other things we ingest and the thrills that we seek throughout the day. are we doing at ron? >> are we doing at ron? i don't know it all depends on what makes people happy. as long as you are not bothering anyone worse than -- preventing anyone else from enjoying their freedom whatever makes you happy. if you are happy hopefully you will be a better person and you will treat other people better and we will have a better society. kennedy: a lot of people drink alcohol because it makes them happy but they wake up in the morning and they are very unhappy so if i were asked to who shot a fireball into martinis on the friday night and you had two lines of heroin

which would feel better in the morning? >> was just be clear if people -- i'm 54 years old and if you are having alcohol and feeling the after effects later that means that you've been doing something wrong. hopefully it's 50 some years of the figured out in a way that you don't get hangovers and so forth. trying to make these comparisons between alcohol and heroin are sometimes difficult but it's important for people to know that you can die from alcohol withdrawal where is you can't die from heroin withdrawal. people need to know how worth thinking about heroin, our thinking that one hit and you are addicted or so dangerous that no one should ever try it. kennedy: that's the propaganda we've been sent since we were children. it's the explosion of reefer

madness. what would you like to see from the biden administration in terms of rescheduling or legalizing search and substances? >> the first thing a bike to see from the biden administration i would like the biden administration to decriminalize alternative all drugs and that is saying nobody will be arrested for what they put in their bodies. that would a consistent with the declaration of independence that guarantees us life liberty and the pursuit of happiness so long as we don't other anybody else. that would be a great start. it would decrease people being imprisoned and make people less paranoid and paranoia happens because people are afraid that they will be arrested for what they are putting their bodies for pursuing pleasure. i hope the biden administration reads the book.

this is for grown-ups. we are talking about people who have managed to be responsible. they contribute to their community and they pay their taxes. we are talking about responsible adults. kennedy: that's right. dr. carl hart i hope you come back so we can have a more in-depth conversation about this topic and you can catch more of our conversation on the podcast on spotify apple dr. hart research shows that people remember commercials with exciting stunts here's something you shouldn't try at home. insurance is cool. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ among my patients i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity and gum gives us a dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend.

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kennedy: in a recent interview dwayne "the rock" johnson cities open for running for president he hopes to do it like he's done everything else in his life with his shirt off. that was a body slam and this is the topical storm. we begin tonight with two women in florida caught in the act after dressing their granny so they could cut the line for coronavirus vaccines. the two friends in their 30s and 40s dressed in bonnets gloves an old lady glasses to pose as seniors to qualify for vaccines but they became suspicious of when the women

didn't complain about the temperature at the vaccines have even more so when they had no idea whatever verse life insurance policy was. they were listening to -- in the waiting room and it didn't help after they got their shots they celebrated with the renegade. they were confronted by police who have dared granny and a bunch that were let off with a warning at which point they went to a florida are to take a different kind of bath. topic number two customs agents have reportedly seized 44 pounds of cocaine covered cornflakes for his hunter biden calls it the breakfast of champions but officials say they intercepted a suspicious shipment of cereal boxes and discovered the frosting on what appeared to be frosted flakes were made of cocaine. no wonder tony the tiger is so -- it turns out he is too

toucan samper to brightly follow my nose was the title of hunter biden's -- officials have not said it was a one-time crime or if this was the work of this cereal, cereal smuggler predefined out to have to scan all the serial numbers. the confiscated drugs are worth $2.8 million making this the worst crime against cereal since raisin bran. that's not cereal, that's punishment. topic number three. hillary clinton writing a novel about her time in state department. i heard john durham was supposed to do the same thing. madam not present is teamed up with writer louise penning to is enjoying treachery or is bill calls it their marriage. the bill will be in title state

of care which is what will feel fun valentine's day every year. they haven't made loves and she turned "50 shades of grey." she works with in a hostile. no matter what they can't get any more thrilling than what qanon is written about her. china has read the first draft of her e-mails and they are not impressed. president trump said it will be the worst book of all times. they are wrong. topic number four. the hell of fresh milk at companies apologizing to customer after sending him a bottle of with his order and that's why hello fresh is number one. he demanded answers on twitter after he received a coke bottle filled with fear and along with his meal kit when he got hit

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