getting that benefit. that is $500 you get may have a price tag of thousands of dollars attached to it. that is the big issue. eventually someone has to pay for it. jackie: carol, we have to go. good to see you tonight. that does it for us on "fox business tonight." "the evening edit" starts right now. >> tonight the border crisis is worsening. the biden administration continues to blame the previous administration for the surge, making the absurd claim the trump team left them with no game plan. there are new questions swirling, why did the biden camp ditch the trump plans and deals before biden had one of his own. with us art del cueto, brandon arnold and kevin byrne. along with michael pillsbury, for the o'connell, arizona sheriff mark lamb on this debate and the day's other top stories. including pushback against president biden's 3 trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. will it lead to new tax hikes?

plus could the impeachment process against new york governor cuomo out live his term in office. also tonight, trump says china is laughing at america for being obsessed with a voc culture while they're building factories and bidding up their military. quest to be the number one superpower. i'm david asman in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. david: we begin with a arizona border town mayor declaring a state of emergency due to migrants let off in his town. hillary vaughn has details on the first bus of migrants arriving yesterday. hillary? reporter: david, the mayor here in gila bend tells me has to

declare a state of emergency to get resources to deal with a crisis he says president biden is creating in his community. migrants are dropped off by the busload after the border patrol held them for maximum of 72 hours. they're dumped in the parking lot with nowhere to go, nothing to eat. the mayor tells me that the federal government of gila bend, a town of 2000 people because they thought they had a bus stop. >> somebody in washington got the thought at that we have a bus stop here, because that's what those migrants were initially told. they were telling us they could buy a ticket to get on a bus. we don't have a bus. we have metro shuttle. reporter: david, not just resources are a concern for the mayor. they are also worried about covid. these migrants are not being tested before they're being dumped here. so he did the math an figured out how much money it would cost him to test these migrants on his own dime. over the year if two busloads of

immigrants are dropped here over the next year, it would cost his town over $600,000. that is over a third of the town's entire budget for the year. david? david: unbelievable. hillary vaughn down in arizona. thank you very much. vice president kamala harris laughing after a reporter asked if she plans to visit the border. watch. >> do you plan to visit the border? >> um, not today. [laughter]. but, i have before and i'm sure i will again. we were left with a very challenging situation. we got to treat this issue in a way that is reflective of our values as americans and do it in a way that is fair and is humane. david: joining me now art del cueto. he is national border patrol council vice president. art, i know we've seen a lot of that laughing comment by the vice president but there is something about it that just

gets under the skin and it must get under your skin more than most people because you see firms hand day after day what to go going on in the border? >> i was born out here on the border. i grew up here. i worked here. i have been here my whole life and i can tell right now nothing was inherited for this administration other than good policies. those policies were remove. that is why we're where we're at today and that is upsetting. the reason we are in the position we are right now with the issues on the border is because of current administration removed policies that worked and did not replace them with anything to help out. david: you know, even the mainstream media which had been openly pro biden in leading up to the election through the inauguration and pretty up until now. even they are beginning to push back. we've seen people like martha raddatz on the border talking to immigrants who say we wouldn't have come under donald trump. we came under biden because we

knew we were going to be let off. we knew we were going to be welcomed with everything they had. so clearly, it is now, it is impossible for them to make the claim, i'm amazed that they still do, that they were left with nothing which in fact they were left with a plan that was working, they came in without any plan of their own? >> right. what the reality of it is now, looking at the situation and how severe it is, more than likely the only possibly to fix the problem and start steering the ship in the right direction, by actually going back to the policies that were used under the last administration. tough take note, that look, there is a lot of unaccompanied juveniles coming through. they're being held. they are overcapacity at the detention facilities. where are all the movie stars and people caring speaking out against everything?

david: forget about it. >> shows more so, they never cared about. the only thing they cared about was hatred for president trump. david: exactly. it is not just you. a lot of people at the border had enough with what is going on here. texas lieutenant governor dan patrick responded to kamala harris. but he also talked about why this situation right now and their so-called solutions to the problems are even worse than they were during obama-biden. take a listen, get your response. >> she's laughing. the dhs secretary is lying and the president he is lost. he is just lost on this issue and think about this, when they talk about there isn't a crisis. they just announced they're going to spend $86 million to put people up in hotels along the border. well if you do the math, based on the reports, that is 1200 people that works out to $70,000 per person, per six months. i guess you get free breakfast. you get checkout, citizenship about that l laughing about it

because they're not taking it seriously. david: art, i can't help think of the national guardsmen that were ringed around the capitol building who were forced to sleep on floors while these immigrants who, you know, are in a tragic situation themselves no doubt, but at the same time, 70,000 a year for hotel rooms? what do you think of that? >> you know, added to that, they're paying probably close to 4,000 a piece in order to cross into the united states. so at the same time, that the united states are using taxpayer money for this the criminal cartels, the drug smugglers, all these individuals that you know, the criminal element, they're making close to $4,000 per each of these individuals that they're allowing to cross through their territory into the united states. david: texas governor -- >> that is what people need to look at. david: texas governor abbott says 100%, i don't know if he can really be that certain but he says 100% of the people moved

across the border right now mr. in some way being, being taken there by the cartel. it is not only does the cartel do it, make a lot of money from the human trafficking but they can also then distract border officials from their drug running. they're planning all of this. have you seen the same thing down at the border? >> that's, like i said. i've been here my whole life. that is exactly correct. the southern border is run a lot by these cartels. they are the ones you have to pay some kind of a tariff, people of smuggling organizations have to pay a tariff in order to come through their territory. it's a bonanza for criminal cartels right now. david: i just saw, i don't know if we rerun the video we saw, it has familiar t-shirts a lot of people are wearing biden let us in. who is paying for all that stuff? is that from the cartel? is that from groups in mexico? international groups? do you know who is paying not

just for the trip over but paraphernalia they're wearing? >> you know at this point i don't know who is paying for it. i don't really think i really care who is paying for it. it is not one political party issue. people need to be smart, use some common sense and realize that, regardless of what side of the aisle you're at, american people are paying for that. they're paying a very big price. the future of our country will pay a future price if something isn't done and done soon. david: art, there is our country will pay the price, the price being paid by the most defenseless, by kids being brought in. tell us about the situation now. is there any sign much light at the end of that fun fell tunnel for them or are they stuck in the camps for months? >> it is heart-breaking, but when you see unaccompanied juveniles turned over to other entities, one thing i've been questioning for quite some time is, the people, parents of these children, why haven't we heard

from the parents of these children reaching out to the consulates of their country, reaching out to our country, wondering where their kids are. david: that is extraordinarily good question. my wife says exactly that. what is the answer to that, art? request aren't we hearing from them? >> more than likely because a lot of them are already here. they have been here illegally for quite some time. but at the end of the day if an american citizen turns over their child and abandons them to a criminal element, i think the american citizen faces strict criminal consequences for that. i think we need to start looking into the same thing for these individuals, for releasing, turning over their children to a criminal element. >> by the way i was using it for another segment. i wonder if producers can put up, the "time" magazine cover. i'm sure folks remember from 2018. there it is totally doctored photo a shame of "time" to do that, represented as a real

thing a crying child looking up at president trump and looking down with a sort of non-non-cha lawns, welcome toe america. doesn't this better fit what is going on with president biden? >> definitely does. brings me back to the original statement. a lot of people on the soapbox screaming about the issues. they really didn't care about the issues. all they did, cared about the hatred towards one man and it is sickening. david: you're right. particularly so many people are suffering so terribly. suffering here in the united states is just beginning. art, thank you very much. appreciate it. appreciate what you do as well. >> thanks for having me. david: just ahead the national taxpayer's union brandon arnold why we're all going to get wet when biden starts soaking the rich. ♪. but nobody even sees them. (vo) discover the exclusive, new miracle-earmini-

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get started today. david: looks like president biden trek infrastructure plan doesn't have a whole lot to do with infrastructure but a lot of priorities pro the radical left, free housing, free community college, free child care. how will we pay for all the free stuff. blake burman is at the white house, sort of trying to add things up.

i have don't think it always does add up, blake. reporter: david, good evening. it is still early in the process here over at the white house they say president biden will be briefed by the economic team at some point this week on possible options for spending proposals going forward. now the white house isn't expected to immediately unveil any decisions that come from that discussion. they're not even saying if $3 trillion right now is the magic number for an infrastructure package, a jobs package. whether or not that will be combined in one or maybe separated out into two different packages. testifying earlier today, the treasury secretary janet yellen today acknowledged that a infrastructure package though would likely be paid for by tax hikes. >> i think a package that consists of investments in people investments in infrastructure, will help to create good jobs in the american economy and changes to this tax structure will help to pay for

those programs. reporter: when the biden administration talks about changes to the tax structure you heard there, they talk about raising taxes on high income earners and on corporations. which would more than likely be a no-go for republicans. >> you can't go just spend money, spend money, spend money. they're talking about now another $3 trillion they want to spend. they're talking about increasing all sorts of taxes. where does this end? do we all work for government? i mean i was sick and tired of these tax increases. reporter: david, democrats here in washington saying they could go use the route known as reconciliation to potentially get a infrastructure package or a jobs package or combination of the two, eventually passed, potentially here, many months down the line. that of course reconciliation the process is exactly what democrats used to pass the $1.9 trillion american rescue plan which did not have any support here in washington from

republicans. david? david: all right. blake burman, thank you very much, break. there have only been two spending programs in the past 100 years that equal the size and depth what president biden has in mind. fdr's new deal during the depression and lbj's great society. his so-called war on poverty. but there is a big difference between then and now. fdr was the most popular president in history. lbj won one of the biggest electoral mandates in history in 1964 winning 44 out of 50 states. joe biden, on the other hand has no such electoral mandate. many believe he is way past his prime. so how does he sell his plan to am razor thin majority in congress and a skeptical public? let's bring in national taxpayer union vice president brandon arnold. brandon, if he uses

reconciliation he may not have to worry about selling anybody but fellow democrats and they're willing to sign on to anything. joe biden is not lbj. he is not even joe biden in his prime, let's be honest about it. how does he sell it? at some point he has got to sell another $3 trillion worth of spending? >> yeah. it is going to be a tough sell, no question about it. the majority in the senate is absolutely razor thin as we all know, even using reconciliation. he will still have to keep his party together, to get all 50 votes, including moderates like joe manchin and krysten sinema. i think that will be tough, especially looking at the size of the national debt right now. $28 trillion and counting. the plan that has been floated and obviously details are still scarce, we're still trying to piece things together, would add another trillion dollars on to that debt because it is 3.$7 trillion in spending, paid for, quote, unquote, paid for by $2.7 trillion in new taxes.

david: right. >> the math doesn't work. it is still adding to the national debt. these tax increases of course will slow down economic growth and stunt the recovery we're hoping will happen soon earn rather than later. >> brandon, i don't know but paid for when talking about taxes. it is not paid for. it comes out of the productive private sector and goes into the unproductive public sector which usually misuses tremendous amount of that money. maybe not 100%. but sometimes it is close to that look what happened after the last great recession. a lot of that money just went down the tubes. so paid for, i think is the wrong way to do it. also the idea that you can pay for it, if you want to use that expression by just taxing the rich is impossible. it doesn't work. the path doesn't work -- math doesn't work. there are not enough rich people. it will hit the miffed dill class, will it not? >> of look at the corporate tax rate, big corporations in

california, new york, i don't have to worry if we raise taxes on those. the truth corporate tax increases are passed down to consumers and passed down to workers that means lower wages for workers. that means higher prices for consumers. the economic literature on that is actually very consistent showing that pass-down happens. that means people will have less take-home pay. in fact, the tax foundation, they modeled this tax increase going forward, moving the corporate rate from 21 to 28%. every single income group, whether you're poor, rich, somewhere in between. saw reduction in after-tax income, just because of the corporate tax increase. that is not even counting a host of other tax increasings that have been floated as part of this plan. david: we have so much history here to guide us and apparently it is not guiding this administration. by the way we had a full screen up. maybe put it back of lyndon johnson. his great society program which was meant, by the way to end poverty, in fact poverty is up a tick from when he was president. so it didn't work own that

level. but look how much money was spent on so-called legacy costs? that means it wasn't just a one-shot spending deal. he worked into the system all of these so-called poverty programs that became a legacy of his. over the years have cost $22 trillion. it is likely that a lot of what president biden is talking about in his plan will be these legacy programs that will long outlast just this one spending t will cost trillions of more money in years to come? >> yeah. that is absolutely right. you look at even more recently than lbj, you look at, what the obama administration did back in 2009, when they tried to get us out of the recession through spending. they pushed nearly a trillion dollars into the economy. yes, we created jobs. but we did so at a cost of about $4 million per job. so i guess government works if we're willing to make it that incredibly inefficient to create jobs by contrast in 2017, we

sent money back into the economy. pushed money back into the private sector. we had one of the strongest economies in recent memory. i think we look back to even recent history, we don't even have to look back to lbj. david: right. >> we see the path biden is advancing here is completely wrong. david: before the trump tax cuts which led to a boom in prosperity. we had the obama-biden tax increases in 2011-12, which took all the steam out of the recovery. we ended up with one of the weakest recoveries we had from a recession ever. just when companies were getting back on their feet, we taxed them more, increased their expenses. now just as companies are getting back on their feet after the lockdowns, we're going to tax them more and, they're going to have the rug pulled out from under them, right? quickly. >> that is absolutely right. one of the tax increases that would be most devastate something increasing the top individual rate because that is what pass-through entities, sole

proprietorships, not the corporate rate, problematic in its own right, raising taxes in a individual rate going to hurt small businesses at a time where they're struggling and barely getting by in many cases. david: these are mom-and-pop franchises put every penny they make right back into their business. it may look good on paper but you ask them if they're rich, they will tell you the truth they're not. brandon, great to see you. thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up new york assemblyman kevin byrne whether the impeachment probe of new york governor andrew cuomo might outlive his term in office? we'll tell you about that coming up. >> he continues to be defiant. he continues to try to interfere with on going investigations. that is exactly the reason i believe he wants to stay in power is to try to and go down that path to manipulate and control it. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ hey limu! [ squawks ] how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance

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david: embattled new york governor andrew cuomo defiantly telling supporters quote, i'm not going anywhere as numerous scandals continue to swirl around him but does he have a point? lawmakers say cuomo's impeachment probe might outlast his third term in office. could the governor walk away without impeachment or resignation? joining me is new york state assemblyman kevin byrne. kevin, i know you would rue the day if that happened but could it? >> oh, david, i heard i think earlier before you broke my

colleague angelo santabarbara speak. he is colleague from the other side of the aisle and i think there is strong bipartisan support for impeachment and i think, while the governor would like to drag this on further and some of his allies would like to see it drag on further i'm grateful we at least have the attorney general investigation. we also have an fbi investigation that has been reported and the judiciary committee did meet earlier today. i'm not on that committee. i provided information to them, supported documentation to make their job a little easier. buff i listened to the committee meeting and you know, the chairman mentioned this could take months, not weeks. so that is concerning. but we got, i do feel that a lot of members on that committee will make sure that they, they hold the law firm that helping lead this investigation, hold them accountable and make sure we get some answers but we

cannot, we cannot wait -- david: were you surprised as i was that this "quinnepiac poll" comes out saying 55% of voters think he should stay, that he should not resign? >> well i don't put a whole lot of faith in polls. i think it is how the ask the question. it is also, they are snapshots in time. david: true. >> at the end of the day for me, i'm not going to be influenced by a poll or by any politician. when we talk about impeachment, the measurement is willful, misconduct. we believe he did impeachable offenses i believe yes. a lot of my colleagues believe yes. we're pushing for impeachment. i'm concerned that with this impeachment investigation some accusers they may be heavies tant to come forward to share the investigation because it is called a sham.

i understand the hesitation. the law firm they hired, perceived conflict of interest with the chief judge in new york a known political ally of the governor. david: right. >> you about i have faith in a lot of my colleagues we'll push this forward. we cannot allow this governor to delay this further and further misuse his -- david: one thing, assemblyman, i wish you well, this man, andrew cuomo is probably the best, plugged into political power individual in the united states right now from the time he was a baby, he was being raised by his father, mario's instructions about how to use political power and he is pulling out all the plugs but there is one thing, "national review"'s madeleine kerns wrote a terrific piece, look, it is bad enough when you're a pig, but if you're a bully on top of being a pig, piggish man is what she was saying, that makes it even worse and something where you have to have some kind of an

intervention to prevent it and he did use his bullying nature in such a way that made his actions, whether you're talking about the sexual harrassment or nursing homes even worse, maybe not worse than the crime itself. but at least accentuated the crime. quickly, last word. go ahead. >> i'm glad you brought up the nursing homes, david, and one thing i will mention the most controversial directive the governor issued on march 25th. that is only a couple days from now. this thursday marks anniversary of the governor's department of health issued that directive that mandate we know caused the death and destruction in nursing homes and also for those that didn't -- mandate, it caused families immense pain and suffering. there will be a candlelight vigil on thursday. i plan to attend. if the viewers can't be there in person, on march 25th, think of all the families and put them in your thoughts and prayers. david: we have some of the families here at fox. we know very well exactly how of

those people are suffering. it's a horrific anniversary, march 25th. that is when the orders came down from the governor. assemblyman, kevin byrne, thank you for hook here. appreciate it. coming up michael pillsbury whether trump is right thinking that the china thinks the u.s. is stupid and laughing at us all the way to bank. >> in the past the chinese hidden their ambitions and their aggressiveness and swagger. now they're out in the open with it. they basically think the united states is finished. ♪

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>> when china looks at woke, they see the biggest problem we have is dr. suess, meantime they're building factories and trying to kill us in so many different ways. they laugh at us. much. david: former president trump on monday with a blunt assessment of how china views the united states. his comments follow last week's rocky face-to-face, at thats between u.s. and chinese officials. yesterday the u.s. joined the european union, the uk and canada issuing sanctions on china over human rights abuses against the uyghurs and other ethnic minorities. though many argue the sanctions are actually without teeth. joining me is michael pills burly, hudson institute director of chinese strategy, the author

of the 100 year marathon, a great book describes china in all of it is intricate details. michael, is china laughing at us now? you look at stuff we're doing with politically correct orders to the military. i'm laughing at some of that. >> well they have a long history of believing they're on the right side and they're going to surpass us, david. they're very confident of that. nothing seems to shake them. i don't know if they actually laugh at us but they lectured us, that the is important thing, in very tough mandarin phrases. they were saying to secretary blinken that america has no right, has no qualifications to criticize china in any way especially from as positive strength. david: hold on a second because we actually have that sound bite. let's play the sound bite. we'll get your reaction to it. roll tape. >> i will translate for you. >> translator: let me say here that in front of the chinese

side the united states does not have the qualification to say it wants to speak to china from a position of strength. >> that was pretty rough stuff. >> right. david: we don't have a position of strength to argue with them. is that true? >> no, it's not true. we still have the military balance overall in our favor. major things like nuclear aircraft carriers, b 2 bombers, they don't have any. they can't sort of project power globally but locally in asia they have been building rapidly. they're beginning to surpass us. that is the view of the secretary of defense and jcs chairman just fairly recently. so they have a right to say what they said. you cannot lecture us from a position of strength. now that phrase came from tony blinken himself. he is the one who said we are coming to this meeting from a position of strength. so once again we see the chinese side kind of arrogantly slapping down the american side. then our side had no comeback after that. david: they have no comeback with regard to how to force,

enforce what they're doing. we have the sanctions that are coming out here now. we're sanctioning some individuals over in china in order to get them to treat the uyghurs better, keep their hands off taiwan, et cetera but those don't really work. you have to use a stick with these guys, right? >> the sanctions will not work. it is easy to predict that. the sanctions are very weak. they say these four chinese officials who have been conducting the suppression in shinzhen cannot visit the u.s. or the european union. any assets they have in america will be frozen. obviously these are chinese communist officials. they don't have assets in america to freeze. these sanctions, so-called global magnitsky act, they work with people with hidden bank accounts in europe or the u.s. that kind of person can be knocked out of business but can have an effect. but doesn't work on chinese communists who don't have chinese bank accounts and don't want to visit the grand connian at least anymore.

david: we are getting the cue, we have to go, i have to ask you, you have to be real short, will they make a move on taiwan during the biden administration, chinese communist party? >> i'm worried about it, yes. not something we can be complacent about at all. david: interesting times. good to have you here, michael pillsbury. thank you, michael. ford o'connell on the companies handing out perks for getting vaccinated. plus this debate. can a company force employees to get a shot? that is next. losing a tooth didn't stop you but your partial can act like a bacteria magnet, putting natural teeth at risk. new polident propartial helps purify your partial and strengthens and protects natural teeth. so, are you gonna lose another tooth? not on my watch!

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company to offer incentive for getting the covid-19 vaccine. a free doughnut to anybody who can show proof they got the shot, every single day for the rest of 2021. you can go in several times a day. major corporations like mcdonald's and target are offering employees paid time off to get vaccinated. some companies even bought their own supply of vaccine to give out to the workers but can you, or should your employer, or schools for that matter, require you to get vaccinated? joining me attorney, republican strategist, ford o'connell. we usually talk about politics. some politics come in here. first, do you have any problems what krispy kreme is doing? >> who doesn't want a free doughnut. i tip my hat to krispy kreme rewarding those who take the vaccine and providing incentives for those who have not yet taken it. promotions, giveaways like this are good because they promote enthusiasm around the vaccine.

heck, i think, heck i even think there is one cannabis towards michigan providing free marijuana joints to those taking the vaccine. david: wow. what about moves those by companies to force their employees to get the vaccine what do you think about that? >> well, i think that companies are definitely toying with the notion or looking down the line to force employees to get it. i don't think right now they want to force them to do it but when i look at it, i put on my legal hat, there is not a lot of laws on the books that prevents private companies from forcing employees to get the vaccination. ones i think of off the top of my head, are the american disabilities, in case somebody has a condition or title vii of the civil rights act, if somebody has a religious belief. in case of union collective bargaining agreement. that is only thing i can think off the top of my head that would prevent private companies forcing them to do it. david: i hate the idea of being forced to take a vaccine, i may

be getting one myself. i don't like being forced to. nevertheless if i'm a restaurant ture who has been killed over the past year, i managed to stay afloat enough to reopen fully. if i have to tell my employees, look, you guys got a vaccine because i didn't want to risk people being afraid of you breathing over them unless they're sure that you have a vaccine, i think i'm within my rights to force them to get a vaccine, no, or you're fired? >> look, i'm with you. i'm in the camp i don't like forcing people to do it but no question a lot of small business owners don't want to go through the rigmarole having to shut down again. plus they have to deal with employees. david, back in june i had a terrible case of covid. i was in the hospital. when the vaccine becomes eligible for me i will take it. i know not everyone has that stance. they really should talk to the doctor. i think we're not going to beat covid through lockdowns and masks. we'll only beat it through vaccines and herd immunity. when we get to 60, 70% we'll be

able to go back to normal if such a thing is possible. david: you were open about it. i had the covid back in january. i can't get a vaccine. i have to wait 90 days. so i can't fly anywhere. if anybody demands a vaccine card they will not get it from me because i can't get a vaccine until i waited 90 days. a lot of people are in awkward positions right now. eventually we'll sort it all out. ford, thank you so much for coming in, helping us with the subject. it is a tough one. i appreciate it. >> thank you, david. david: ahead on "the evening edit," arizona sheriff mark lamb what is causing the border surge and the effect of a media blackout. >> what happens in a surge is people realize there is no consequence and that's where we're at now. the way to stop a surge so far in my career is apply consequences. doesn't seem like we're able to do that right now. ♪ hearing aids because of my short hair, but nobody even sees them.

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>> the most astonishing part of it is the biden administration is enforcing a total blackout of the press. we put in a formal request with a the number of news outlets including abc news the wanted to

bring a tv camera and the biden administration said there would be no press, no photographs, no tv cameras, no transparency whatsoever. david: that of course is ted cruz. meanwhile texas congressman henry cuellar gave us the first harrowing glimpse inside the crisis center on the southern border. these photo showing the pact holding facilities with the biden administration won't let the media see. the cbp and the releasing their own images but what of this media quite news outlets in the dark about the border crisis. with me now is arizona sheriff mark lamb. mark i of all i've got to say you are loaded for bear bear. are you expect king and we should mention for those who don't know the county you are not right on the border but are you seeing the effects of the surge at the border? >> oh yeah. we've been saying seeing the surge. we are 60 miles off the border between phoenix and tucson.

we have an american reservation on the south end of our canteen we have always experienced immigration issues read we are seeing a huge surge and that is quite challenging to senators and congressmen and women to come down and see it. earned from tennessee was here for the weekend and fortunately for me i don't have to listen to them. they can do their own blackouts but they can't tell a sheriffs what to do so we are bringing people down to see first-hand and we can't get into those facilities but we are doing what we can. david: henry cuellar was a democrat or the way took those photos inside the facility to show people on top of each other in some of the kids as well packed in like sardines during a pandemic and it was not a cage per se but it certainly looked like they were caged in with the plastic and being prevented from going elsewhere. you know you think of the heat that president trump took when

he was in office about kids in cages even though a lot of those cages existed during the obama administration that now looks even worse. is it? >> can you imagine what they would have done to president trump if they would have seen the videos they would have dismissed it like oh yeah quick to handle this kind of thing. that's exactly what president trump and we said back when the other congressman and congresswoman were going down there trying to blast border patrol and dhs for it too will be the first to tell you those facilities are not built to house all those people but their opera and border is what brought the people here and now we are dealing with these unaccompanied minors. they will get overwhelmed and they are not capable of this and you can see first-hand what kind of forced situation they are in right now. david: even the mainstream media is pushing back ration.

there was too much push back. i would have had to go back one way or the other. i'm coming because of biden and because of what he's doing but listen to jen psaki the spokesperson for biden said about this the other day. play the tape and will get the sheriffs reaction. >> we recognize there is a big problem. they left us to dismantle an unworkable system and like any other problem we are going to do everything we can to solve it. david: the last administration left a lot of policies like a stay in mexico policy that actually worked to stop the flow and stopped all those caravans. what would you say to jen psaki that it's all trump's fall to? >> a newsflash for jen psaki the american people are tired of the blame game. we want them to handle a problem and i can tell you they are not doing everything they can because they are not reaching out to local law enforcement and

the sheriffs. when they say they are doing everything they can that's a flat out lie. the fact of the matter as they are not doing everything in their continuing to lighten the situation which is only creating a greater problem for us. we sheriffs are standing together. i created an organization called protect america now they dick enberg to -- check it out or protect american.com. the fact of the matter as this is a crisis they failed to recognize it and they are not doing everything they can i can tell you first-hand. david: we know i.c.e. arrest her way down even though the number of immigrants is way up and that's bad news for getting through and very quickly when we have 10 seconds is that why you are loaded for bear? >> we have had to increase our workforce by 100% people running from us every day. it's a dangerous situation and

we need the american people to let their government know it's not tolerable. david: share thank you for coming in. that does address. i'm david asman and four elizabeth macdonald. have a great evening. larry: hello everyone welcome ' kudlow. i'm larry kudlow picked in the markets took a hit in the last hour and finished down across-the-board did not sure why and we will explore that. we have a stock market segment. it could be the fed could be pathetic at the treasury could be taxes who knows but anyway i want to begin with a couple of thoughts on this inflation scare which i don't buy. i can't lie into it and i don't believe inflation will be a gigantic problem. let me walk you through some thoughts for another commodity prices have jumped and i don't doubt they may enter the inflation picture fo